/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6162485]

>terrible controls
>bland, shitty graphics
>half assed attempt at dungeon adventure game
>boring story
>meh music

Am i missing something? All I've heard if how incredible this game and franchise is. Do you have to play 2 or Tron Bonne to get it?

[Anonymous No.6162492]

>>6162485
Hi, Bunnyhop.

[Anonymous No.6162493]

If you don't "get it" 2+ hours into 1, you never will. The sequels are just more of the same.

[Anonymous No.6162521]

>>6162493
this

[Anonymous No.6162528]

The graphics, music, and story are cute as hell
Agree the controls are shit but you get used to them quick

[Anonymous No.6162535]

>>6162485
People just like it because of the decent polygonal anime presentation it had for the time, and because they want to fuck Roll and Tron. It's a pretty terrible game otherwise.

[Anonymous No.6162556]

>>6162485

The game was released just before Ocarina of Time, which is one of the first 3D action-adventure games that plays half decently. It's easy to say "this is how 3D games should be" in 2020 but way harder in 1997 when they were charting unknown territories. I know that 3D had been around in gaming since like 1992, with it coming to consoles in earnest around 1994.

In that context, it play well with good controls for the time. If the Legends series had advanced through the 2000's the controls would have improved.

[Anonymous No.6162594]

>>6162485
Does 2 control any better?

[Anonymous No.6162598]

>>6162485
Because I want to Tron Bone her if you know what I mean.

[Anonymous No.6162602]

>>6162594
If I recall correctly it controls a lot better. Can't remember if it was dual shock support or just better bindings though it has been a while.

[Anonymous No.6162604]

>>6162535
Considering how absolutely vomitrocious 3D textures looked across the 5th gen, it almost seems visionary to take the easy way and stick with solid and simple.

[Anonymous No.6162809]

>>6162594
A lot better actually. The overall game is more of the same though.

[Anonymous No.6162871]

>>6162485
Fuck you I liked it

[Anonymous No.6162898]

>>6162556
>it's easy to say "this is how 3D games should be" in 2020 but way harder in 1997 when they were charting unknown territories
There were already far superior third person shooter games like Star Wars Shadows of The Empire, Dark Forces 2, and MDK before this game was released. Megaman Legends was the one of the most sluggish, bland, and terrible to control 3rd person shooters of that era. People liked it for the open world RPG elements though, and above all, of course because it's got the anime privilege, unlike its american counterparts. The story was terrible and megaman volnutt is bland as a generic anime protagonist can be. The only reason to play this game is for the underage lolis like Roll Caskett and Tron Bonne, OP.

[Anonymous No.6162965]

>>6162898
>Shadows of The Empire, and MDK

Those games are super jank though, and far uglier, and worse than MM Legends.

[Anonymous No.6162979]

>>6162965
Nah I like Megaman Legends but Shadows of The Empire is dank

[Anonymous No.6162989]

>>6162965
>super jank
As janky as MM legends' controls? Not even true.

>far uglier
You could say so for MDK but it had gargantuan levels, ran 60 fps (with some minor slowdowns on ps1) and could handle far more enemies on screen at once. I don't remember Shadows of Empire being uglier than MM Legends.

>worse
Gameplay wise they're definitely better.

[Anonymous No.6163059]

>>6162485
>>bland, shitty graphics
NOOOOOOOO MY HECKIN CUTE LOWPOLYRINOS

[Anonymous No.6163061]

>>6162898
Neither of them are lolis, mong.

[Anonymous No.6163124]

[Anonymous No.6163143]

The graphics are great, you are a shitter

[Anonymous No.6163181]

>>6162965
>MDK
>far uglier
Did you play PSX version or something? It looked great on PC.

[Anonymous No.6163183]

>>6163181
If you had the hardware to run it at its highest fidelity, which most people didn’t.

[Anonymous No.6163194]

Cool bait thread.

[Anonymous No.6163197]

>>6163183
I had Pentium 133 and Riva TNT. Not sure if it's highest fidelity, but it still was really good.

[Anonymous No.6163264]

>>6162485
>Am i missing something?
intellect and taste

[Anonymous No.6163274]

Imagine being so desperate for replies that you start a thread like that

[Anonymous No.6163476]

>>6162604
This. Legends doesn’t get enough credit for going with the less is more approach at a time when everyone was going overboard with details.

[Anonymous No.6163497]

>>6162594
It had twin stick FPS controls taken straight from Medal of Honor. Pretty much no different from modern console fps except the firing animation was still as slow as MML 1.

>>6162604
>>6163476
The girl characters definitely looked cute but the environment and everything else looked pretty washed out and bland.

[Anonymous No.6163504]

Is megaman supposed to be a human kid or a robot? Why does he have normal human arms here? I thought he had a removable arm and a mechanical hands that can transform into a blaster?

>>6163061
>14
>underdeveloped body
>not lolis

[Anonymous No.6163515]

>>6163504
It's a post apocalyptic world, they're all synthetic humans

[Anonymous No.6164012]

>>6163194
Bait?

Have you actually ever played this game. OPs assertions are dead on. The only reason this game has any kind of legacy (no pun intended) is because it belongs to the Mega Man franchise and because it has an anime aesthetic when that was still relatively uncommon in the west. Otherwise it's a mediocre game at best, even for the time it came out.

[Anonymous No.6164018]

>>6163476
Except it's basic, boring art style does nothing to enhance this game in anyway. Your statement would be true for a game like Portal, but Legends comes across as a game with a very limited budget and development timeframe. it's about as exciting as watching paint dry when back tracking from one part of the island to the other.

[Anonymous No.6164037]

>>6164012
Yet it's better than OoT and that gets heaps of praise for no good reason.

[Anonymous No.6164047]

>>6164037
>better than OoT

Please explain this one, I beg you! I want to see the delusion and mental gymnastics required to have this opinion.

[Anonymous No.6164049]

>>6164047
No need to post the selfie, just stating a objective fact.

[Anonymous No.6164105]

>>6164018
Cute opinion.

[Anonymous No.6164112]

>>6164047
He's right, combat being much better is the big one.

[Anonymous No.6164126]

>>6164049
>>6164112

/vr/ the most autistic place on the web ladies and gentlemen! Pretty much every metric says you faggots are wrong, but keep deluding yourself.

[Anonymous No.6164129]

CRAPCOM

[Anonymous No.6164140]

>>6164047
You'll have to explain what's so good about OoT first.
I kinda get MM, but OoT wasn't that good.

[Anonymous No.6164149]

>>6164140
MM was worse than OOT except for the graphics, art direction, and writing.

[Anonymous No.6164161]

>>6164149
>except for the graphics, art direction, and writing
Are there any other reasons to care about N64 Zelda games?

[Anonymous No.6164162]

>>6162485
You're missing taste. Also you're probably an assblasted nintenfat who has it out for the series entirely because the nshitty4 got a horrendous port of Legends 1 and completely missed out on 2 and Tron entirely.

[Anonymous No.6164191]

>>6163504
If you want spoilers in his current iteration, he's a synthetic human like all carbons. The last remaining human was "The Master" in Elysium, and in Legends 2 you see him fucking die so humans are extinct. Megaman Volnutt was originally a guardian robot for "The Master" though, with that personality being transferred and reborn in babby Rock Volnutt for reasons, and the memories were storied seperately inside of Data.

[Anonymous No.6164204]

>>6164149
and combat, exploration, side quests, NPCs, framerate, customization, weapon variety...

[Anonymous No.6164213]

>>6164204
>side quests, NPCs
Pretty sure that it falls under writing.

[Anonymous No.6164228]

>>6164204
>combat
Same shit really.
>exploration
More like more shitty puzzles and more annoying water levels.
>side quests
Epona riding and shooting baloon monsters with that shitty analog stick don't count as good side quests.
>weapon variety
Everything in your inventory disappears when you reset the time so fuck that shit, its ruined.

[Anonymous No.6164314]

>>6164191
can you please just say android instead of something as insufferable as "synthetic human"

[Anonymous No.6164349]

>>6164049
>>6164105
>>6164140

Reddit is looking for a group of autistic contrarians. Have you seen them?

[Anonymous No.6164382]

>>6164349
Anon I hope you do realize that the job of game reviewers is to sell videogames and that's why they get copies of games and get paid to publish magazines about them.

OoT doesn't even have a jump button.

[Anonymous No.6164387]

>>6164382
tell that to the games they shit on in their reviews, or give mediocre scores to like Legends. Really makes you want to drop $50 in late 90s money on a bland, mediocre game doesn't it?

Try again brainlet.

[Anonymous No.6164398]

>>6164387
they have to give preferential treatment to the developers that give them preferential payment, but consider that Legends was actually still featured in the magazines and ask yourself whether anyone needed to look at the scores in 1998 to know that they wanted to play a megaman game that looks like anime and has sky pirates and an airship with kawaii sisterfu roll in an aviator jacket

anime used to be suppressed in the western market

[Anonymous No.6164490]

>>6164398
>anime used to be suppressed in the western market
Things were so much better back then.

[Anonymous No.6164493]

When I played Megaman Legends, it was what I sort of "felt" a 3D Zelda game was going to be. Exploring a world, being a hero who explored mysterious ancient ruins just because he was an adventurer, a world where I felt I was really having an impact on the people there, underground dungeons full of enemies who were a threat, no puzzles...

OoT played better, yeah, but Megaman Legends was the 3D Zelda I wanted.

[Anonymous No.6164501]

>>6164493
You wanted forgettable basic hallway levels instead of actual dungeons like in OoT?

[Anonymous No.6164552]

>>6164501
The dungeons of Legends connect together in a natural way that really felt like it rewarded exploring. Far more engaging than some boring "light the torches" puzzles.

[Anonymous No.6164557]

>>6164552
Walking through hallways and fighting easy enemies is not more engaging than the dungeons in Zelda. The underground areas in Legends are boring both visually and in terms of layout.

[Anonymous No.6164559]

>>6164557
OK Aonuma.

[Anonymous No.6164568]

>>6164552
I can't remember, do you have to go through loading screens when you're traveling between areas underground?

Regardless:
>>6164501
there's honestly something weird about traveling through those impossibly elaborate dungeons that seem like they were created for no reason other than the legendary hero to solve their trial exactly one time

which is not to say that MML's labyrinth passageways of extremely questionable purpose are better, but that game at least maintains the puzzle of mapping the area and figuring out how to progress and fills the place up with good RPG shit

in which case maybe the spiritual successor to megaman legends is actually kingdom hearts, an idea that makes me sort of queasy

[Anonymous No.6164579]

>>6164568
Legends is actually absent of true loading screens overall. There's a slow fade when you go from something like a main dungeon to a side ruin, but the only time you really get hit with a "Now loading" is funny enough after the Capcom logo when you turn on the game. It's no Crash 2 but from what I remember MML always felt pretty optimized as far as PSX titles went.

[Anonymous No.6164584]

>>6164579
how fast was the transition when you exited from the strip mall to the inner city for example?

[Anonymous No.6164603]

>>6164584
Checking video on youtube, I'd say from the transition start to the next screen, about 5 seconds.

[Anonymous No.6164629]

>>6164603
das what i mean, did the underground have gate transitions with actual black screens?

[Anonymous No.6164641]

>>6163124
why does this get reposted every single time?

[Anonymous No.6164647]

Legends series is one of my favorites from childhood. It's not amazing but it has nice art and it's very cute please don't bully it.

[Anonymous No.6164652]

>Terrible graphics
I only disagree with this.

[Anonymous No.6164668]

>>6162535
I'm a faggot and don't want to fuck animu, and I played the game for the first time in like 2007 or something. game still was real good despite these two facts. also the use of Bach's little fugue in the final boss fight ruled.

[Anonymous No.6164880]

>>6162485
I honestly cannot fathom how someone couldn't fall in love with MML. It has this air of innocence about it that is sublime in execution.

The gameplay is mediocre, but it's functional and even engaging at times. What really makes it shine is the aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.6164885]

>OOT vs MML
>when Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon is better than both and came out first

[Anonymous No.6164892]

>>6164885
Based and Goepilled.

[Anonymous No.6164949]

>>6164880
>this air of innocence about it
You mean the smell of so'y?

[Anonymous No.6164996]

>terrible controls

if they changed the camera controls then the game would be just fine

[Anonymous No.6165005]

>>6164949
>walks in on the hot girl he lives with when she's naked
>promptly congratulates himself with body language that denotes the word "SCORE!"

No, anon. That's not what I mean.

[Anonymous No.6165014]

>>6163124
Post the JP version where he kicks the dog like a football.

[Anonymous No.6165038]

>>6165005
Roll is gay for Tron though, not Megaman.

[Anonymous No.6165042]

>>6164112
BIUYSH BIUYUSH BIUYSH

BAMBAMBAMBAMBAM!

i will never get that tin can sound when your buster hits a robot out of my head

very memorable sound design

[Anonymous No.6165045]

>>6163476
Mario 64 did it just fine and manages to not suck

[Anonymous No.6165448]

>>6165038
DELET

[Anonymous No.6165803]

>>6162485
It's got an amazing atmosphere.
I can work around the controls and everything else purely because of it's charm.
Considering when it came out, I think the graphics are amazing. Very smart with the limitations they had.
Great cutscenes that didn't have to rely on FMV, so they could fit a lot in, and being in game, it wasn't jarring.

Sorry you don't like it. For me, it's incredibly nostalgic. From a time before I really knew what anime was, but was sort of aware of some of its conventions.

[Anonymous No.6166132]

>>6164314
Android normally implies robot, though. When I say synthetic human, I really mean human but technically not since carbons were artificially created.

[Anonymous No.6166136]

>>6164493
>OoT played better

[Anonymous No.6166148]

Tron Bonne is so based
There's lots more Megaman games OP, not everyone is into Legends

[Anonymous No.6166160]

>>6162485
2 is better.

At the time the game was a lot of fun by incorporating RPG elements into a 3rd person shooter in a semi-open world. 20 years later the gameplay just doesnt hold up, but if you were there at release it was something different and engaging at that time

[Anonymous No.6166268]

>>6166160
I have a hard time definitively saying which game is better, because they both have aspects they do better than the other. 2's controls are much better but I actually think I liked the encounters better in 1, 1 was far more memorable in terms of characters and story, but 2's environments especially the digs were a huge improvement over the first game's very samey digs. Then on the other hand you had that water dungeon where the whole game played at half speed AND half framerate, which definitely pulls it down.

[Anonymous No.6166576]

>>6162485
You know, I won't deny this game is a mediocre TPS with poor controls and bland dungeons that nostalgiafags and graphics whores hail as the Second Coming, but even I will defend the look of it, it's far and away one of the most aesthetic 3D games of its time (its only redeeming quality) and it still holds up fairly well today. I would complain that either your eyesight or bait are terrible, but judging by the amount of responses, I would be wrong in at least one of them...