New Goemon translations

[Anonymous No.6162184]

Ganbare Goemon: Uchuu Kaizoku Akogingu is being translated and is currently 85% complete. Shin Sedai Shuumei is being worked on as well.
http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=29967.0

[Anonymous No.6162301]

great news

[Anonymous No.6162803]

Quick rundown on the "upcoming" SNES GG1 cut content restoration?

[Anonymous No.6162817]

Great! I love trannies*!

*(short for "translations")

[Anonymous No.6162839]

>>6162803
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WH-Uec42-o

[Anonymous No.6162865]

>>6162184
Absolutely based, happy to see ppl keeping the Goemon subs train going

[Anonymous No.6162919]

Looks like 2020 is Goemon’s year

[Anonymous No.6162921]

>>6162839
But who is restoring this and when? Link?

[Anonymous No.6162926]

>>6162921
pascal is a french friend of Tom (the guy that translated 2,3 and 4)

[Anonymous No.6162940]

>>6162926
Link to this project of his plz?

[Anonymous No.6162967]

Some anon from the last thread requested a restoration of GGA's FMV intro from the Japanese version and the voices. What are the chances we get a project for that and/or for the spoken cutscene-voices of MNSG64?

[Anonymous No.6163019]

Tranners are compaining and trying to stir drama because the word "tranny" is being used.

[Anonymous No.6163037]

>>6163019
DDS and apparently also (and thankfully) RHDN aren't going to cave, so this will end up as a scar on those cannibalistic faggots. Nothing to worry about, so let's leave this issue alone before the jannies get upset again. Also, DDS said Tom is still around and he is talking to him, so I don't think we've lost him, either, which is great!

[Anonymous No.6163048]

>>6162865
A fan translator accurately translated one of the Goemon SNES game from 25 years ago, and the woke sperg coalitions like HG101, SNES Central, and I assume soon ReeetardEra are already gearing up for fucking war apparently because the word "trănny" showed up in it. https://twitter.com/HG_101/status/1221153751005790210 http://archive.is/jkmfd
>(TW: transphobia) is it too much to ask for right wing fan translators to NOT stick slurs into their work? https://twitter.com/snescentral/status/1221188376335998976?s=21 http://archive.is/Qy2NM
>One of the benefits of doing a fan translation 2020 is the possibility to remove discriminatory language that, while still wrong then, was in common use three decades ago. It is a shame that the authors of this hack decided to mar their hard work by using a slur.

Show your support for this lad if you care enough. These faggots need to be mocked into submission and kicked the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.6163056]

>>6163048
Isn't newhalf more of a porno term? Shemale might be more appropriate/humorous.

[Anonymous No.6163067]

>>6163048
SNEScentral deleted his account. Lol

>>6163056
You’re splitting hairs. Besides, why are we glossing over the “should I tell him the truth?” Line? There’s literally no way to make this not offensive to perverts. Who cares?

[Anonymous No.6163069]

>>6163056
/v/ had a 500 post thread about it tonight, with some saying it was an accurate translation and others saying it wasn't. Kurt Kalata, the owner of HG101, later suggested in that Twitter thread that it should've been translated as "trans" or "transgender".

Someone also claimed #Newhalf in Japanese is a tag transgenders from Japan use for themselves on Twitter and were subsequently saying it wasn't offensive like "tranny" and that "tranny"
itself is only used as a slur or in porn

Users at HG101 are now pouring through this guys other projects for offensive language that may have been missed and some there want him blacklisted from fan translation and his old projects removed on principle

[Anonymous No.6163072]

>>6163048
>>6163056
>>6163067
Can we step back from this, please, bros? I agree that "tranny" is an accurate translation intended for the humor, etc, but this great thread will be deleted if we bring this up in it.

[Anonymous No.6163074]

>>6163069
Here is the thread if anyone is interested:
>>>/v/494128942

[Anonymous No.6163075]

>>6163048
Hardcore Gaming 101? More like Sensitive Gaming 101 lol

[Anonymous No.6163079]

>>6163072
Is the classic gaming scene so incredibly infested with perverts, degenerates, and weirdos, that we can’t have this discussion?

[Anonymous No.6163085]

>>6163069
More like, “political correctness” doesn’t exist in Asia. Whatever is going on there is in a completely different paradigm.

[Anonymous No.6163086]

>>6163079
Apparently not here, which is why I say we should bring it somewhere else, and stick to talking about the games sans the tranny rage they recently created.

[Anonymous No.6163091]

>>6163048
I have shown my support, and have noticed the overwhelmning response the community has given so far. No ones gonna push this community around, that is now clear. Carry on

[Anonymous No.6163092]

>>6163085
That is what I figured. Also, the word Newhalf is slang and is used in Japanese comedy and jokes etc to refer to transgenders and literally is saying they are half their real gender and half a new gender... so to me, even if trannys in Japan don't get offended by it, it is still a slang term that could be a slur depending on how and who is using it and thus "tranny" seems like an appropriate localization

[Anonymous No.6163095]

>>6163074
>/v/ arguing over the etymology, history and meaning of the words Transvestite, Transsexual and Transgender
Wow you don't see that everyday

[Anonymous No.6163096]

The transgender movement is so vitriolic, there's something not right about the whole thing. Cancel culture is more toxic than anything they ever target.

[Anonymous No.6163098]

>>6163096
They just go so overkill with it... they almost have this guy convinced he is such a horrible monster he should leave the fan translation scene forever

[Anonymous No.6163104]

>>6163092
They exist in the world where there is no “support” group telling them they’re entitled to be treated a certain way. Personally I don’t agree with making fun of someone who has an obvious mental health problem, or making fun of people who are different. Regardless this was in the game and the translator didn’t do anything wrong.

[Anonymous No.6163105]

>>6163074
What a shitstorm.

I'll get the popcorn.

[Anonymous No.6163108]

Hey douchenozzle janitor. Stop deleting our posts.

[Anonymous No.6163109]

>>6163108
Take it to /v/

[Anonymous No.6163115]

>>6162184
Glad to see. Was worried the recent shit storm would keep people away from translating Goemon for awhile
Shin Sedai Shuumei is a nice surprise as well, being the black sheep of the franchise and all.

[Anonymous No.6163120]

>>6163115
SS is certainly not as shite as, say, the second Gameboy game or the 3D PSX game or the PS2 game, that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.6163138]

>>6162184
Is the robot/whichever guy i 4? The one where you can switch characters on the fly in towns.

[Anonymous No.6163169]

>>6163138
Yes, Sasuke is playable in 4.

[Anonymous No.6163173]

>>6163169
So is Sasuke a robot or not? Only played the original Japanese GG 4 through emulation and I have no fucking idea what's going on.

[Anonymous No.6163175]

>>6163173
He's based off karakuri dolls, which I guess you could call robots.

[Anonymous No.6163180]

>>6163175
So he's a robot or animated doll? I haven't played 4 in over 7 years.

[Anonymous No.6163184]

Too bad outrage culture killed the possibility of future goemon translations

[Anonymous No.6163186]

>>6163184
#woke

[Anonymous No.6163423]

>>6163184
i'm thankful to edgy kids ruining everything

[Anonymous No.6163426]

>>6163184
Thanks Resetera

[Anonymous No.6163490]

>>6162184
Can't wait for Akogingu. You guys have been saying it's the best one, and I'm hype.

[Anonymous No.6163503]

>>6163180
Robot. Wise Man, the character that created Impact, also made him.

[Anonymous No.6163509]

>>6162184
Looks like another boring and generic linear snes ARPG.

[Anonymous No.6163623]

>>6162184
Tranny tranny. Tranny tranny trans. Transexual trannies trans tranny trans, tranny tran tran transfag.

[Anonymous No.6163654]

so did Tom quit? Or just taking a break because of that RetardEra bullshit? And if he quit, did he finish the script for Goemon 4?

[Anonymous No.6163661]

>>6163120
would still like to play the translated game, even though it is really short and a shit game

[Anonymous No.6163679]

>>6163654
He is honestly scared of people threating him atm, so he hasn’t given any indication of changing his mind yet.
GG4 is already translated, the work left is related to hacking and replacement graphics. It’s still a lot, it seems. Their aiming to finish it “before the mid-year mark”

[Anonymous No.6163690]

>>6163654
Over the years he already "quitted" a few times. So likely just yet another break. Nothing really to worry about.

[Anonymous No.6163713]

>>6163679
good to hear, that GG4 will be finished, never imagined we would get 2 and 3 so fast, didn't even know 3 was actively worked on and expected it to be the last, because it was the biggest. Still a shame that just one word started this whole shitstorm against him
>>6163690
good to hear, still imagine being him, releasing a good translation and then a this shit...

[Anonymous No.6163731]

>>6163490
Akogingu is the best of the Playstation Goemons but it's pretty mediocre compared to the Super NES Goemons imo.

[Anonymous No.6163735]

>>6162184
This was the guy who got dogpiled by HG101 fags on Twitter for putting the word "Tranny" in the game, right?

[Anonymous No.6163743]

>>6163735
to think I once enjoyed HG101's website. But they called Yui (the Yae in the futuristic spinoff) a harlot there in their Goemon article, fucking hypocrites...

[Anonymous No.6163746]

>>6163743
They've been going apeshit on HG101s forums since this happened, they want RHDN to pull all this guys previous finished translation projects and are checking through each one for other "slurs" that may have been missed

[Anonymous No.6163756]

>>6163743
The site has a lot of great content but the owner and the one running that Twitter, Kurt Kalata, is one of the biggest cringefag soiboys in existence. He can still write good articles when he keeps his politics out. In the early days that shit wasn't really there but not it's a tranny hugbox, you can be permabanned for misgendering or not repecting pronouns on the forum.

I was following Kurt's work even before HG101, he started some of the first major fansites for Castlevania (Castlevania Dungeon), Contra and several other classic series way back in the day and I used to visit them often without even realising it was all the same guy. Shame they are so eager to cast people out of their hobby because of their bullshit political correctness

[Anonymous No.6163760]

>>6163746
Militant trannies on the rampage

[Anonymous No.6163809]

>>6163746
do you have a link? would like to see how these idiots are sniffing their own farts
>>6163756
man that sucks, all good sites I used to visit regularly

[Anonymous No.6163824]

People keep complaining about Goemon threads being deleted but there's always these faggots who insist on bringing it up
>>6163654
>>6163735
>>6163756
>>6163760
>>6163809

[Anonymous No.6163826]

>>6162940
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/4478/

[Anonymous No.6163828]

>>6163824
And what's wrong with bringing any of this shit up, faggot?

[Anonymous No.6163830]

>>6162184
what a year for goemon
even if we monkey pawed ouselfs with that drama

[Anonymous No.6163843]

>>6163828
Don't complain when jannies delete this thread.

[Anonymous No.6163884]

>>6163824
>>6163843
Well it's not our fault that these fags insist on beating the same dead horse. Jannies should just do their job and delete those posts instead of nuking the whole thread.

[Anonymous No.6163903]

>>6163884
Jannies be trannys

[Anonymous No.6163941]

Am I the only one who finds hilarious that Goemon is the Pepe the frog of 2020

[Anonymous No.6163947]

>>6162184
Awesome

[Anonymous No.6163952]

>>6163941
It's not hilarious, it's sad. Can't wait until Goemon is labelled an "alt-right nazi dogwhistle" and you can't even openly enjoy the series in any context because of some twitter tranny shit. Fuck this timeline, I really hope this drama gets forgotten and that Goemon can be untainted from this shit.

[Anonymous No.6163959]

>>6163824
>>6163884
You want /vr/ to be your safe space again?
ResetEra is actively monitoring any new romhacking thread and translation news about the entire series to send their goons and in the end there won't be anyone brave enough to translate them.
What is else there to discuss? If you successfully managed to cancel the series even beyond its official grave, lamenting this state of things is also cancelled?
The best thing - the harassment is still going on, that Kunt is still as unrepentant as ever.

[Anonymous No.6163962]

Don't respond to /pol/tards. If they cared about Goemon they'd let you discuss the series without shitting up the threads with twitter screenshots.

[Anonymous No.6163963]

It's hilarious ResetEra is so successful that Goemon discussion of any sort here is now banned for the first four games (that Tom was due to publish but will never get around to, btw GG spinoff is fully done, and GG4 is 20/24 inserted and would have been a few weeks after) so when /vr/ wants to discuss this they talk about the PS1 games.

[Anonymous No.6163970]

How is everybody enjoying GG 2 and 3? I've played through 2 in Japanese, but I've been looking forward to playing 3 in English for forever now. Bought a new SD card writer so I can play it on my Everdrive.
>>6163962
Responding to ridiculous things on Twitter and ResetEra doesn't make you a "/pol/tard." Discussions about it will die down naturally after a while.

[Anonymous No.6163972]

>>6163962
>the series
too problematic for /vr/, we had "is GG4 racist" "is GG3's use of manji" reposted from a certain someone's twitter here in /vr/, which he considers his personal shitbox

>/pol/tards
Friendly reminder the reason why DDS was smeared as a rightwinger, and then his Tom translator was smeared and harassed relentlessly by mere association to "the rightwing translation group", was that DDS had a "ResetEra is cancer" sentence in his bio. You know, pedo-ring cancel-mob resetera, so toxic its own admins fled it. Who would hate such an upstanding group of citizens.
Discoalucard/HG101 from RE didn't like that.

Most of the fantranslator community is standing behind Tom, with the exception of Lunar Magical School lead fantranslator (what do you know, he's a contributor to HG101's site) and TCRF. Makes you think.

[Anonymous No.6163976]

>>6163970
GG3 and GG4 is best played in English.
GG2 had some enhancements in the GBA version. I thought about contacting the translation team to consult about my own romhack to backport them in, but they're now unreachable. Joy.

[Anonymous No.6163984]

>>6163972
From what I gather, the reasons they dislike DDS and call him a rightwinger is the "resetera is cancer" thing in his bio, the fact that he used some blocklist for resetera sjw types, and that he follows people associated with gamergate and other people ResetEra hates like Jordan Peterson, Scott Adams, and Doug TenNapel. That's enough for them to label him a toxic rightwinger. It doesn't seem like he's actually said or done anything offensive, or made any big political statements at all. There's nothing offensive about DDS to any normal person. ResetEra types (including HG101) just have a skewed view of reality.

[Anonymous No.6163986]

>>6163824
Wait wait wait, what's wrong with this? >>6163654
This anon is just asking for an update on GG4 translation's status.
Are we supposed to memoryhole it and pretend it never existed, supreme faggot?

[Anonymous No.6163989]

>>6163976
You could try contacting DDS (the hacker), he might be able to help with that, since he's still active. I'm just guessing though.

[Anonymous No.6163993]

>>6163986
Nothing is wrong with it

[Anonymous No.6163994]

>>6163984
They went after Tom for daring to work with him.
That image btw is from the fourth chapter. There's more offensive stuff that happens in the very beginning, because it's fucking Goemon.
Even the official N64 localization by Nintendo standards couldn't hide faggot bashing, if that's telling enough.

He KNEW what he was doing. If you're sensitive about that word, there's no way you could survive the first minutes of that game.
The fourth game has a secret underage robotic prostitute in the intro ffs, just to be outrageous.
He wanted a multi day milkshake festival where Tom issues multiple apologies and romhack revisions and is then cancelled anyways and his work pulled from RHDN (yes, they went there to request his work to be removed, and previous work to be "reevaluated for problematic content")

[Anonymous No.6163996]

>>6163994
and on RHDN's subject, that the mods there even entertained their proposals without an outright dismissal tells you all you need about how precarious Goemon romhacks are there.
So do yourself a favor and grab these:

https://anonfile.com/ha73G2Q3n1/Ganbare_Goemon_A_Tricky_Journey_Japan_T-En_by_Spinner_8_v1.01_n_zip
https://anonfile.com/j176GeQana/Ganbare_Goemon_2_Japan_T-En_by_Stardust_Crusaders_v1.02_zip
https://anonfile.com/la79G5Q6n0/Persevere_Goemon_-_A_Tricky_Journey_Japan_T-En_by_MSX_Translations_v0.9.5_6_Trainer_n_zip
https://anonfile.com/n572G5Qcna/Ganbare_Goemon_Gaiden_2_-_Treasures_of_the_World_Japan_T-En_by_Adventurous_v100_n_zip
https://anonfile.com/p77dG0Q7n9/Ganbare_Goemon_Gaiden_-_The_Missing_Golden_Pipe_Japan_T-En_by_Adventurous_v099c_n_zip
https://anonfile.com/te75G1Q4n9/Persevere_Goemon_-_A_Tricky_Journey_Japan_T-En_by_MSX_Translations_v0.9.5_n_zip
https://anonfile.com/7d7bGdQ7n2/Go_for_It_Goemon_-_Rescue_of_Princess_Yuki_USA_hack_by_FlashPV_v1.01_n_zip
https://anonfile.com/B974GcQ2n0/Go_for_it_Goemon_2_-_The_Strange_General_McGuinness_Japan_T-En_by_DDSTranslation_v1.0_n_zip
https://anonfile.com/Dc74G5Qan8/Go_for_it_Goemon_3_-_The_Mecha_Leg_Hold_of_Jurokube_Shishi_Japan_T-En_by_DDSTranslation_v2.0_n_zip

[Anonymous No.6164025]

>>6163976
>GG3 and GG4 is best played in English.
GG4 is mostly platforming, it can be enjoyed without understanding the text.

[Anonymous No.6164026]

bless the mods

[Anonymous No.6164030]

I do not like jannies very much.
They are no good.
But I love Goemon.

[Anonymous No.6164035]

>>6164025
There's a couple annoying parts to muddle through in 4 in the town areas where you have to choose the correct dialogue choice, but you can either guess your way through or look at a guide. It's definitely playable without knowing any Japanese. Still, being able to understand the dialogue adds to the enjoyment.

[Anonymous No.6164061]

/vr/ tranny jannies in charge of deleting romhack links.
Even fucking byuu called out Kalata for being a cunt.

[Anonymous No.6164064]

>>6164061
I saved them all at least before the post was deleted. Thanks for sharing them.

[Anonymous No.6164083]

>>6164061
>Even fucking byuu called out Kalata for being a cunt.
source?

[Anonymous No.6164094]

reposting links

https://anonfile.com/ha73G2Q3n1/Ganbare_Goemon_A_Tricky_Journey_Japan_T-En_by_Spinner_8_v1.01_n_zip
https://anonfile.com/j176GeQana/Ganbare_Goemon_2_Japan_T-En_by_Stardust_Crusaders_v1.02_zip
https://anonfile.com/la79G5Q6n0/Persevere_Goemon_-_A_Tricky_Journey_Japan_T-En_by_MSX_Translations_v0.9.5_6_Trainer_n_zip
https://anonfile.com/n572G5Qcna/Ganbare_Goemon_Gaiden_2_-_Treasures_of_the_World_Japan_T-En_by_Adventurous_v100_n_zip
https://anonfile.com/p77dG0Q7n9/Ganbare_Goemon_Gaiden_-_The_Missing_Golden_Pipe_Japan_T-En_by_Adventurous_v099c_n_zip
https://anonfile.com/te75G1Q4n9/Persevere_Goemon_-_A_Tricky_Journey_Japan_T-En_by_MSX_Translations_v0.9.5_n_zip
https://anonfile.com/7d7bGdQ7n2/Go_for_It_Goemon_-_Rescue_of_Princess_Yuki_USA_hack_by_FlashPV_v1.01_n_zip
https://anonfile.com/B974GcQ2n0/Go_for_it_Goemon_2_-_The_Strange_General_McGuinness_Japan_T-En_by_DDSTranslation_v1.0_n_zip
https://anonfile.com/Dc74G5Qan8/Go_for_it_Goemon_3_-_The_Mecha_Leg_Hold_of_Jurokube_Shishi_Japan_T-En_by_DDSTranslation_v2.0_n_zip

[Anonymous No.6164101]

>>6164094
based
thanks anon

[Anonymous No.6164125]

>>6164083
His twitter. Called out going after someone with no history of bad actions publicly before even talking with them in private and said he's real tired of people feigning concern.
'Course he had to throw in a bit about himself being used as a prop in there to make it about himself but the general gist was disgust at Kalata being a two-faced fuck.

[Anonymous No.6164196]

>>6162184
ayyyy

[Anonymous No.6164236]

>>6164196
hopefully they won't listen

[Anonymous No.6164240]

>>6163503
Time to load GG 4 in ZSNES again.

[Anonymous No.6164254]

>>6164196
GG3 links are non compliant by /vr/ standards

[Anonymous No.6164258]

>>6164236
I know an anon said RHDN would give in to their demands, but I dont see it, the support in favor of Tom and DDS by extension has been overwhelming.

[Anonymous No.6164259]

>>6164254
Should be posted to Mega and MediaFire. 7Zip or sfc/smc file format ok?

[Anonymous No.6164273]

>>6164258
Well, at least the forum community, and fellow romhackers. The people accepting reviews and submissions though... it’s too early to say.

[Anonymous No.6164290]

>>6164273
I saw one of them openly call out Kuck Kulata on Tom's feed. I dont know all of them, but thats one veteran staff who's made a stand.

[Anonymous No.6164292]

>>6164258
It's kind of funny how even romhackers on ResetEra have been in support of Tom. Even Nightwolve has crawled out of his cumcave to stop shitposting about XSeed to show support for Tom.

[Anonymous No.6164317]

~ Official /vr/ Goemon Ranking ~

God Tier:
Goemon's Great Adventure

Top Tier:
Goemon 4
Goemon 2 (Super Famicom)
Goemon 3
Mystical Ninja 64

High Tier:
Legend of the Mystical Ninja
Dynamite
DS Goemon
Uchuu Kaizoku Akogingu

Mid Tier:
Goemon 2 (Famicom)
Goemon 1 (Famicom)
Sarawareta Ebi! (1st GB game)
Mr. Goemon

Low Tier:
Shin Sedai
Oedo Daikaiten
PS2 Goemon
Kurunara Koi! (3D PSX game)

Shit Tier:
Kurofone Tou no Nazo (2nd GB game)

[Anonymous No.6164326]

>>6164317
How many of those are co-op?

[Anonymous No.6164335]

>>6164292
He still somehow managed to shit on XSEED while at it

[Anonymous No.6164351]

>>6164335
The fuck is so great about XSEED? Last I know the company rarely offers original Japanese audio and subtitles/translation based on the OG Japanese release.

[Anonymous No.6164352]

>>6164326
Goemon 2fc, the 4 snes ones and GGA.
GGA also supports up to 4 players.

[Anonymous No.6164353]

>>6164317
>Goemon 2 not God Tier
Shit tier list

[Anonymous No.6164354]

>>6162967
I wish. But no one who know something about N64 hacking has shown any interest in Goemon games.

Starring Goemon also has cut voice clips, and who know what else.

[Anonymous No.6164360]

>>6164196
>Noncompliant to my feelings
Wow

[Anonymous No.6164367]

>>6164352
>GGA also supports up to 4 players.

That sounds fantastic. Are there any N64 emulators that support online multiplayer?

[Anonymous No.6164368]

>>6164360
Comedy!

[Anonymous No.6164373]

>>6164335
Lol link?

Also anyone got a link to Tom's Twitter?

[Anonymous No.6164424]

>>6164335
based nightwolve.
never change.

[Anonymous No.6164457]

>>6164292
>Nightwolve

Dude has been shitting on XSEED and Wyrdwad pretty much daily for a decade now. That's dedication like I've never seen before.

[Anonymous No.6164565]

>>6163970
Just started 2. It's a big improvement over the first game.

[Anonymous No.6164572]

They are re-translating and restoring the first game, right?
I guess I'll wait and just "binge play" the whole series.

[Anonymous No.6164607]

DDS Translations is now officially a right-wing hate group according to Kurt

[Anonymous No.6164613]

>>6164373
https://twitter.com/RetroTranslator

[Anonymous No.6164621]

>>6164613
Aw man that's sad. Poor guy.

[Anonymous No.6164712]

>>6164317
I would up LotMN to top tier as well, but I agree GGA feels like the peak moment of the series. It's everything that made the series great x10

[Anonymous No.6164759]

>>6163970
I played through more than half of 3 but dropped it because fuck translating all that kana. Looking forward to picking it up again soon.

[Anonymous No.6164865]

>>6164712
>LotMN
my first Goemon game, nostalgia hits hard, it's by far my most favourite. Music is also the best

[Anonymous No.6164874]

>>6164572
this is where i'm at i think
i'll finish goemon gaiden 2 and wait for the retrans of goemon 1 snes

[Anonymous No.6164881]

>>6164607
Holy based, this is how you should treat resetrannies if your personal info isn't attached to your username.
If it is attached then you're a dumbfuck and you should go back to the start and not collect $200. Create another internet persona as far away from the old as possible and start from there. lol if you actually risk losing your job because of random mentally ill people on disability benefits.

[Anonymous No.6164905]

>>6164874
still have to finish Gaiden 2
and for the retrans, i would like to see how the dialog with Koban and Yae play out, they first appeared as playalbe characters in the first Gaiden, which came out a year before LotMN

[Anonymous No.6164906]

>>6164712
Speaking of GGA, I'm playing it on Project 64 with the Gliden64 4.0 plugin, and the first cut scene seems to be running slower than it should. Is there any fix for that?

[Anonymous No.6164908]

>>6164905
It's a known issue. Get the NigGr plguin and it should fix it.

[Anonymous No.6164917]

>>6164908
Do you have a link? Google isn't giving me shit

[Anonymous No.6164918]

Some minor progress on Ooedo Daikaiten

[Anonymous No.6165006]

is there a way to play the first N64 Goemon without problems on Emulator?
>>6164918
nice, good game, even though a rehash of 2 for SNES, I still like it

[Anonymous No.6165207]

are you able to get cats you missed in levels in goemon 3?

[Anonymous No.6165318]

>>6164607
Exactly! He is a NATZEE!!!

[Anonymous No.6165320]

>>6165318

[Anonymous No.6165323]

>>6165320

[Anonymous No.6165326]

>>6165323

[Anonymous No.6165331]

>>6165320
Where is his translation being used? Apparently Tom worked on Walking School for Game Gear. I don't believe there are any patches for Magical School Lunar yet, though some people are working on one. Not sure if he helped them with their translation or if he did an unrelated translation.

[Anonymous No.6165346]

>>6164607
>>6165318
>>6165320
>>6165323
>>6165326
This guy and everyone who rages at this are retarded. "Newhalf" is certainly considered as a slur in japan, but it's not a slur that has a heavily negative connotation. Not anywhere as negative as tranny. It's more like a porn term, and I think some trannies call themselves newhalf in japan?

The most equal english translation for newhalf is probably femboy or trap. It's a slur, but not an excessively negative slur because that's what some trannies call themselves.

[Anonymous No.6165353]

>>6165346
That, or ladyboy. It's a slur that's not considered very offensive by most people.

[Anonymous No.6165363]

>>6165346
Thats sounds like something a Natzie would say.

[Anonymous No.6165364]

>>6165353
I feel like ladyboy is almost exclusively associated with Thailand, but it could work pretty well. Tranny is a bit too strong (it feels stronger now than it used to), but it seems like the closest to me. Some transwomen and transvestites call themselves tranny still too.

[Anonymous No.6165381]

>>6165207
>are you able to get cats you missed in levels in goemon 3?
It's been a long time since I played it but if I remember correctly, if you miss a cat you can't go back and get it. You're screwed basically.

[Anonymous No.6165387]

>>6165381
that's a serious design flaw if true. especially since you're required to get all of them in order to fight the secret boss. that's like not being able to get all the heart pieces in zelda.

[Anonymous No.6165391]

>>6165387
Reminds me of collecting the falcons in Alundra, though the reward you miss isn't as significant as a secret boss.

[Anonymous No.6165392]

>>6165387
Welp, time to make an improvement patch.

[Anonymous No.6165394]

>>6165364
>Some transwomen and transvestites call themselves tranny still too.
That's a very small minority, if there's really any. Femboy and trap are much more common. Or if that line was intended to be comedic by the japanese writer, the translator should've used "girl (male)".

[Anonymous No.6165395]

>>6165363
>remember trump supporters, in 50 years this is how your grandkids will see you
>IDF soldier
Holy fuck BASED.

[Anonymous No.6165398]

>>6165394
That's funny, but "girl (male)" isn't something you say outloud.

[Anonymous No.6165406]

>>6165394
I thought femboy was just like effeminate twink guys

[Anonymous No.6165409]

>>6165394
Trap could have worked, but it still feels like it's primarily internet slang to me. Tranny is more universally understood. Trap might have pissed some people off too going by the reaction to the term in Akiba's Trip.

[Anonymous No.6165446]

>>6165331
>Tom works on Lunar Magical School GameGear, yet another accurate translation of his years ago
>HG101 intern infiltrates a translation project of the Saturn remake
>HG101 tries to cancel Tom
>HG101 intern says the canceling is justified, because Tom could have censored GG3 (he couldn't, they went after the "no slurs" patch author because he couldn't make ALL of GG3 politically correct either), just like he could make Saturn Lunar Magical School politically correct
>accidentally cancels self, now that his translation is associated to this mess and its authenticity known

Beautiful. It all keeps getting more and more amazing.

[Anonymous No.6165451]

>>6165387
it's a shame because i was otherwise really enjoying the game.

[Anonymous No.6165452]

>>6165392
You can't make GG3 less linear and abridged.

[Anonymous No.6165471]

>>6165452
Couldn't a romhacker flip the flag for the secret boss though?

[Anonymous No.6165482]

I'm getting slowdown on the dragon ride level in goemon 2, using bsnes with a R5 2600. It seems to get better overclocking to 400% but doesn't go away. Is it slow on real hardware?

[Anonymous No.6165483]

>>6165471
THAT is possible.

[Anonymous No.6165491]

>>6165409
>Trap could have worked, but it still feels like it's primarily internet slang to me. Tranny is more universally understood. .
Trap is popular enough to be understood by anyone playing goemon.
>Trap might have pissed some people off too going by the reaction to the term in Akiba's Trip
So might newhalf. But it's just not considered as derogatory and offensive.

[Anonymous No.6165496]

>>6165482
>Is it slow on real hardware?
Yes. Welcome to 99% of SNES action games.

[Anonymous No.6165506]

>>6165346
you got it, I'm no tranny apologist but I'm intensely skeptical of this guy's "woe is innocent ol' me I just didn't know uwu" hand-wringing. how do you spend any amount of time on the internet and not realize that tranny comes off as a particularly venomous epithet? I can't believe he's that naive and autistic, even if he does translate Japanese, the most autistic language

[Anonymous No.6165513]

>>6165491
Trap won't be accepted, Xseed's Wyrdward was cancelled over it.
Lots of wankery over the subject. Even suggesting shemales and transgenderED, which are equally offensive.
He would still be cancelled by ResetEra.
If you were in his shoes, YOU would be cancelled.

No amount of window dressing will make Ganbare Goemon 3 politically correct, and more offensive stuff happens in the first 30 minutes of the game so HarassEra101-san could just screencap that instead, which was his intention all along.

Only real "fix" is the 4kids treatment, but this game was harder to hack than most and graphics took years.
I've got real good news for you. Because of this, the Goemon Hoshizora Dynamites translation efforts might be dead in the water.

[Anonymous No.6165518]

>>6165513
When you get down to it, it has very little to do with the line itself. ResetEra picked it out because they had a grudge against DDS, the hacker, because he says "resetera is cancer," blocks them, and follows people they don't like on twitter. That's the real reason they made a big deal out of it.

[Anonymous No.6165521]

>>6165506
>Trap won't be accepted, Xseed's Wyrdward was cancelled over it.
The translator could make an excuse because he's translating a foreign game. Wyrward was an english game, that's the difference. Hardcore Gaysex 101's tweet wouldn't make any impact.

[Anonymous No.6165548]

the whole attack on tom started because hardcoregaming101 branded him guilty by association for working with a right wing hacker tranny is bad translation for newhalf though trap,travestite or even shemale would been better options as they're terms some thin skinned transexuals might find offensive and others not

[Anonymous No.6165552]

>>6165506
I heard he's lived in japan for the past 10 years. Also most communities aren't like 4chan and don't tolerate venomous posting in the first place so if a word has recently become in vogue you wouldn't know it.

[Anonymous No.6165554]

>>6164917
>NiGgr plugin
>NiGger plugin
Ya fell for it

[Anonymous No.6165563]

>>6164621
How do you not know tranny is considered a slur now? Or I guess he is saying he was aware it was but thought it was a minor one maybe on the same level as newhalf is in Japan

[Anonymous No.6165564]

Does online multiplayer for emulation work these days? Whats the best emulator for that?

[Anonymous No.6165569]

>>6165548
This. They've honestly had their sights on him for a while and this incident was the perfect reason for them which Kurt and his cronies immediately latched onto and won't be letting go any time soon

[Anonymous No.6165607]

>Nobody actually calling for his head on twitter or resetera except for throwaway accounts with 0 posts created last week
>sites reporting on this only have headlines about gamergate and loli games
>his "oh poor me" twitter speech is a fucking lie, pic related
>/pol/fags suddenly infesting /vg/ around the same time as this started
Really makes you wonder

[Anonymous No.6165609]

>>6165506
It's a translation not a localisation. He's just translating a script written by someone else. Reading an offensive word written in a piece of fiction doesn't mean that you condone its meaning or the characters motivations. If you think that way and want to live in an adult nursery then you're better off sticking to Mr. Men books.

[Anonymous No.6165612]

>>6165506
>tranny comes off as a particularly venomous epithet
To be honest, it never seemed that severe to me.

[Anonymous No.6165613]

>>6165607
>/pol/fags
Not liking ResetEra doesn't make you /pol/ or rightwing

[Anonymous No.6165626]

>>6165609
they're all localizations to one degree or another, translation is not bijective. if you were translating some Japanese text that said "uh oh my bike's gone, I hope my black neighbor didn't take it" it's probably wise not to translate it as "I hope my nigger neighbor didn't take it." both have the same non-PC sentiment but that particular translation would take the tone to a lot harsher of a level than the original intention. I know at the end of the day it's all words, as reductive as that is, but it's obvious which fits better unless you're going for edgelord points.

[Anonymous No.6165627]

>>6165626
How would you translate it?

[Anonymous No.6165628]

>>6165607
it's the double secret /pol/ gayop, they make all the retardera accounts admit to harassing him in dms and then come shitpost here about it

as a sidenote you might want to check your dilator to make sure it's medical grade silicone and you're not suffering some some kind of poisoning that makes your brains leak out your ears

[Anonymous No.6165631]

>>6165626
I know you're just giving an extreme example to illustrate your point, but tranny isn't near the level of nigger. It's maybe a bit more heavy sounding than newhalf, but the terms are pretty close.

[Anonymous No.6165632]

>>6165612
It's because the slurs for black people, jews, and gay people have lots of hard and guttural sounds. You can really imagine someone screaming it in psychotic rage, and tranny almost sounds playful because it's an infantilization of transsexual. But if it pisses them off when you say it, it's still a slur.

[Anonymous No.6165637]

>>6165628
It's actually a false flag by translation haters trying to make translations a taboo issue, thereby forcing everybody to learn Japanese.

[Anonymous No.6165640]

>>6165627
>I used to be a guy...Should I tell my boyfriend?
Same level of crudeness, doesn't involve words made up in 2014, doesn't have the clunkiness of "transgender" or "transsexual."

>Oh no, my bike's gone! I shouldn't accuse Tyrone, but it makes sense.
>you can go next door and see Tyrone is black
Same level of racism, makes you feel accomplished by taking the initiative to see if Tyrone is black, then makes you feel the same "Wait was I being racist?" feeling as the character.

[Anonymous No.6165642]

>>6165627
>How would you translate it?
there have been some decent suggestions in this thread. "trap" might be too internet, so would "girl (male)" although I appreciate its cheekiness. femboy or crossdresser are probably the safest. changing the line to something like "I'm actually a boy" or whatever is getting further away from the attempt at a literal translation but would work.

>>6165631
yeah I know they're not on the same level, couldn't think of a gentler example. plus, just like nigger is the naughtiest word for black folks, tranny is as far as I know the current worst word for them. in their individual separate spheres it seems that they both occupy the same peak-offensiveness level.

[Anonymous No.6165646]

>>6165640
thank you for the unexpected improved translation of my hypothetical black person in a gay anime game joke

[Anonymous No.6165654]

>>6165642
Crossdresser is the best safe one I'd say, though it loses some of the meaning. I think though that even if we want to discuss alternatives, tranny is a legitimate way to translate the line and the translator shouldn't get too much heat over it.

[Anonymous No.6165656]

>all these wigwearers who get offended by words

[Anonymous No.6165675]

>>6165656
>all these anti-SJWs trying to make us into Gamergate 2

[Anonymous No.6165684]

>>6165628
Or you could go to resetera and find 3 persons admitting to "urging" and heckling Tom on his DMs.

[Anonymous No.6166021]

>>6165392
Way ahead of you

[Anonymous No.6166058]

>>6164196
Based UJC, the Safe-Space Hero we need in triggering times like these.

[Anonymous No.6166149]

I lost my save, can anyone give me a save file after you get to the town that's sludgy with blueish green ground? Doesn't matter if it's exactly as far as I got

I guess load a save state, save in-game and upload the srm file? thanks

[Anonymous No.6166175]

In GG3 there have been a few times where I switched characters and they had a different palette for some reason, is that normal or a glitch?

[Anonymous No.6166182]

>>6164572
That's probably in limbo at this point, unless Tom already finished translating it. Doesn't look like DDS is going to give any updates on it or GG4, aside from anon claiming he won't have GG4 finished til around summer.

[Anonymous No.6166217]

>>6166175
just happened to me again, here's a screenshot of what I mean. Ebisumaru's palette here looks like Bismaru, and Yae had blue hair when her palette swapped, kind of like in LotMN, so maybe it's normal

[Anonymous No.6166219]

>>6166175
>>6166217
If you hold Y when transforming this will happen

It's intentional, a guy in his house tells you in the first town

[Anonymous No.6166228]

>>6166217
looks more like an improvement; he's finally wearing the properly colored onsen peepers towel on his head

[Anonymous No.6166247]

>>6166219
That's pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.6166257]

>>6166175
If you hold a button (don’t remember which one) you get the Player 2 palette.

[Anonymous No.6166262]

>>6166182
About GG4, that’s just what DDS has said on twitter. He hasn’t said anything about GG1 “since” though

[Anonymous No.6166280]

>>6166217
actually in the Gaiden games this was his colour

[Anonymous No.6166282]

>tfw goemon 4 translation never
>tfw goemon 1 retranslation never
>tfw goemon gameboy games retranslations never

[Anonymous No.6166314]

>>6165364
>Some transwomen and transvestites call themselves tranny still too.
It's like Blacks calling themselves niggas.

[Anonymous No.6166356]

>>6166314
Nobody is calling anybody else anything though.

[Anonymous No.6166360]

>>6166282
Isn't Goemon 4 fully translated in terms of text though? It's just graphics and some other stuff that needs to be done. Although I can easily see Tom not wanting it to be released because of his newfound fears as a result of the controversy, even if he doesn't need to do any more work on it. I hope DDS clarifies the status of the patch.

[Anonymous No.6166376]

>>6166360
Just the GFX to do, DDS is aiming to get it done mid 2020.

[Anonymous No.6166483]

New to Goemon; what is the point of this character? Is it an attack on Catholocism? Pathetic as it may be, I have no tolerance for that sort of thing after all the jrpgs I've played, and I've never been the "only gameplay matters" type. Should I drop this game?

[Anonymous No.6166494]

>>6166483
No, the nun thing is just to accentuate the fact Bismaru is half-french (the other half being japanese, which is why Bismaru dresses like a mix of a nun and a miko).

[Anonymous No.6166495]

>>6166483
>getting this butthurt over a joke character
Kek, christcucks are so sensitive.
It's not even an "attack" it's just Ebisumaru's French Catholic villain counterpart, I assume it's for the sake of absurdity.

[Anonymous No.6166517]

>>6166483
Yes, quit while you're ahead. Stick to your violent satanic western games white piggu.

[Anonymous No.6166528]

>>6166483
>I have no tolerance for that sort of thing after all the jrpgs I've played
So?

[Anonymous No.6166536]

>>6166483
Catholicism is superstitious, idolatrous nonsense. However, there is nothing in the game that attacks Catholic doctrines. Bismaru just dresses as a nun, and that's basically it. The joke is that she is far from being one. This series uses a lot of irony as its humor, anon, hence the accurate translation of "newhalf" in GG3 making faggots and sòys upset. You'll have a lot of fun if you stick with it, I think.

[Anonymous No.6166673]

does someone has the action replay codes for all fortune doll cats? i am missing two and i don't want to check everything

[Anonymous No.6166738]

>>6166495
>getting this butthurt over a joke character
>Kek, christcucks are so sensitive.
Bismaru an attack on christcucks AND transcucks. The more the merrier!

[Anonymous No.6166749]

>>6166738
This series has such power as plebs and snowflakes filter, it’s magical

[Anonymous No.6166754]

>>6166749
Thanks to resetera discord trannies, it will soon be an EOP filter as well

[Anonymous No.6166779]

>>6166749
Of all the things for these loons to get triggered over... Goemon! lol

[Anonymous No.6166809]

>>6166754
Based. I'm beginning to hate EOPs.

[Anonymous No.6166815]

>>6166494
>>6166536
Thanks, just reforming my 3x3 and being picky with my time. Wasn't sure what to make of his wikia entry, but l've always wanted a Kirby 64 style game with 3D/town sections, so I'm glad to hear this may very well be a contender because I've just about run out of "hidden gems"

[Anonymous No.6166817]

>>6166754
>Four ongoing translations of Goemon games, one of which only needs some hacking and graphic replacements
>EOP Filter

Pick one

[Anonymous No.6166839]

So was tranny an accurate translation of Newhalf or what?

[Anonymous No.6166842]

>>6166839
It's pretty offensive, so yes.

[Anonymous No.6166847]

>>6166842
Which is offensive? People say Newhalf isn't really offensive in Japan, or is very mild, sort of like calling a faggot a 'fruit' in the West

[Anonymous No.6166851]

>>6166817
>GG1, GG4, Soreyuke Ebisumaru, Uchu's Tom version, Shin Sedai, Hoshizora Dynamites
... only one?

>cope
>downplaying
Pick one

[Anonymous No.6166858]

>>6166839
One of the two tweets who launched the controversy said "...a slur against transgendered people."
Transgendered is also classified a slur. That tells you all what you need.

[Anonymous No.6166869]

>>6166842
No, it isn't. You are not the spokesperson for the tranny/newhalf/degen/confused lunatic/what-the-fuck-ever community. No one is. You don't get to decide who is offended, TRANNY.

[Anonymous No.6166906]

>>6166839
No. A better translation would be "I used to be a guy" or "I'm a trap" if you absolutely need to include a word that's going to piss someone off. "Newhalf" is only mildly offensive, so going for the word that trannies consider the most offensive was a boneheaded move.

[Anonymous No.6166920]

>>6164094
Thanks pal

[Anonymous No.6166935]

>>6166839
It's a reasonable translation of newhalf. Very close in meaning, though tranny is arguably harsher.
>>6166906
Tranny is a closer translation than both of those. Trap is offensive too, and it's mostly internet slang.

[Anonymous No.6167283]

>>6166839
No it was Racist!!!!!

[Anonymous No.6167289]

>>6167283

[Anonymous No.6167290]

>>6167289

[Anonymous No.6167293]

>>6167290

[Anonymous No.6167294]

>>6166815
Grab some buddies, too, bro. GGA is very chill (most of the time, it can get challenging, but it's also very forgiving), so you guys will have a blast. Brought this to a sleepover in 2nd grade and used the 4-player glitch, great times along with Mario Party 2.

[Anonymous No.6167323]

>>6167294
>4-player glitch
Glitch? Isn't it a unlockable after you get all 44 passes? Or you mean a glitch to be able to play 4-players on castle levels?

[Anonymous No.6167336]

>>6167323
Now I can't remember. I thought if you stuck in two extra controllers at a certain point, you can trick the game into having up to two more players. It's been literally 20 years, so maybe it was the castle thing.

[Anonymous No.6167376]

>>6167294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxUMCvc9Se0

How does this happen? Did they try to make it 4 player co-op but cut the feature to salvage the frame rate?

[Anonymous No.6167392]

>>6167376
No idea. Framerate seems consistent, anyway, but you definitely can't get through the underwater levels at all if you have Goemon or Ebi with you, so that might be why it's only bonus content.

[Anonymous No.6167402]

>>6167376
Most likely because it’s hard as fuck to not scroll sabotage your partner constantly as it. Real 4 player co op platformer only started showing up after the change to 16:9 resolutions for a reason

[Anonymous No.6167476]

>>6166935
The fact that tranny is harsher makes it unacceptable. It doesn't matter if it makes sense to you or if you think trans are unjustifiably angry. It's the worst word to call a trans, so in this context it doesn't fucking work.

[Anonymous No.6167491]

>>6167476
And here I thought calling them "suicidal perverts with a mental illness" was the worst thing.

[Anonymous No.6167496]

>>6167289
>There's a surprising amount of pedophilia references I had to write out of the Japanese script
There needs to be a master list of patches that have been censored by the translators so I can avoid this shit
>There are people who unironically censor content in these patches
This is the kind of shit I would expect if it were localized for sell at retail, not from fucking fan-translators

[Anonymous No.6167514]

>>6167496
>list of patches that have been censored by the translators so I can avoid this shit
There's one simple way to avoid this problem.

[Anonymous No.6167517]

>>6167496
Ni no Kuni DS has removed instances of "fat shaming", FEDA and Daikaiju Monogatari II have political rants by Wildbill (other scripts he touched may be affected), some said Brigandine is affected but it turned out false.

>Lunar Magical School
Tom translated the Game Gear original, so you're fine with that version. The translator for the remake moderates the HG101 site. Gives HG101's recent shitshow a whole new dimension of pettiness.

[Anonymous No.6167521]

>>6167476
>troon, dyke, freak, queer, shemale, futanari, hermaphrodite, dick-lady
>the worst word to call a trans
Pick one

[Anonymous No.6167539]

>>6167476
There are worse words to call them, and before it became popular here as a dysphemism, they unironically used to call themselves that. The fact is the fact: "newhalf" means "tranny." Learn to laugh at yourself.

[Anonymous No.6167595]

>>6167521
>>6167539
Etymology doesn't really matter if it's the word they take the most offense to.

[Anonymous No.6167598]

>>6167595
Tell that to the developers. No one is forcing anyone to play the game, you fucking faggot.

[Anonymous No.6167608]

>>6167595
Not all of them take the most offense from it. The usage of the word is still debated, some use it referring to themselves.

It's also hard if you try to translate that way, because there's a certain type of person that has very strict standards for what's acceptable or offensive language, and their standards aren't the norm. Their standards are also constantly changing.

[Anonymous No.6167659]

>>6167608
All this said, you can definitely argue for other ways of translating that might work better. It's not the only possible translation.

[Anonymous No.6167698]

>>6167659
>It's not the only possible translation
It doesn't matter, because it's the most accurate, and more importantly, it's the one that was used. Is coping really this difficult for you?

[Anonymous No.6167730]

>>6167289
He's in the process of being defeated.
>>6167476
It's not the harshest, just the most repetitive. The repetition of terminology is an added bonus to causing headaches. You'll usually get tired of repetitive meme words after a while.

[Anonymous No.6167743]

>>6167698
I think it's fine personally, I'm just saying there's probably other ways to translate it while remaining accurate. My main point though is that "tranny" is one accurate way to translate, arguably the most. It's not a bad translation.

[Anonymous No.6167752]

As a filthy weeb, I'm happy autistic discussions about words in translations that "should have been translated better" is no longer subject to kink shaming. Canceling the future releases and the translator is one hell of an overreaction. 8 different translations down the drain? The sexually-frustrated wrath of our tranny overlords is insatiable.

[Anonymous No.6167768]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO53Pe290Sk

[Anonymous No.6167769]

>>6167768
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCM5nN2tkuE

[Anonymous No.6167843]

>>6167768
>>6167769
I gave my n64 and both goemon games to some poor kids

I wonder what their reaction was

[Anonymous No.6168007]

>>6167521
I feel like Shemale would have been good actually, especially since it's a bit out of use now and this is a 90's video game.

[Anonymous No.6168073]

I'd say 'tranny' is an accurate translation of 'newhalf'. it's tricky though, because 'tranny' can vary alot in its degree of disrespect. it ranges from slightly derisive to a slur, depending on who you ask. however, you need a word that fits 'newhalf', which refers to pre-op trans ppl -- the 'new half' is feminine, as opposed to the 'old half' below the belt that still has male parts, so it's a slightly mocking slang term, and you need to capture that. I'd say both 'tranny' and 'shemale' match this. 'trap' would work, but it's too internet; 'troon' is too recent and wouldn't match the 90s feel; 'hermaphrodite' describes a medical condition which is distinct from transgenderism; 'transvestite' refers to a male who outwardly acts effeminate, as opposed to inwardly identifying that way, which is a subtle yet significant difference. so I think that whittles it down to either 'tranny' or 'shemale', either would work, and either would melt the snowflakes and their purity spiral.

[Anonymous No.6168079]

I'd say 'tranny' is an accurate translation of 'newhalf'. it's tricky though, because 'tranny' can vary alot in its degree of disrespect. it ranges from slightly derisive to a slur, depending on who you ask. however, you need a word that fits 'newhalf', which refers to pre-op trans ppl -- the 'new half' is feminine, as opposed to the 'old half' below the belt that still has male parts, so it's a slightly mocking slang term, and you need to capture that. I'd say both 'tranny' and 'shemale' match this. 'trap' would work, but it's too internet; 'troon' is too recent and wouldn't match the 90s feel; 'hermaphrodite' describes a medical condition which is distinct from transgenderism; 'transvestite' refers to a male who outwardly acts effeminate, as opposed to inwardly identifying that way, which is a subtle yet significant difference. so I think that whittles it down to either 'tranny' or 'shemale', either would work, and either would melt the snowflakes and trigger their purity spiral.

[Anonymous No.6168083]

>>6168073
Who cares?

[Anonymous No.6168091]

>>6168083
pardon me, I have a bad habit of deleting and reposting things. it's because I left a word out.
to answer, maybe you don't care, but a number of other human beans do.

[Anonymous No.6168129]

>>6168007
Hilarious that some people think that Shemale would have been acceptable.

[Anonymous No.6168135]

Are actual trans people getting angry at this, or it's, as usual, just hetero cis progressive/liberal people getting angry for them?
Reminds me of when Mariohad a mexican costume on Odyssey, white US people got angry at Nintendo for being "racist", but actual mexicans loved it.

[Anonymous No.6168142]

>>6168135
i think it is as usual...
>>6168079
yeah, good read. Some people even suggested to keep newhalf, but only japanophiles would know the term

[Anonymous No.6168148]

>>6168135
Spearheaded by cis progressives. You can find Trans People that fall on either side of it since people can't ever agree on language usage.

[Anonymous No.6168228]

Friendly reminder that a faithful translation would have been Shemale

[Anonymous No.6168230]

>>6168142
thanks. yes I forgot to mention, you couldn't just leave 'newhalf' untranslated, because it's not understood in the West. the only time you can really get away with that is when it's a widely understood loanword, like 'katana', 'ninja', or 'samurai'. I might leave in something like 'bushido' if the context is culturally Japanese. otherwise, you should translate all relevant words, or you get silliness like "just according to keikaku".

[Anonymous No.6168237]

>>6168142
thanks. yes I forgot to mention, you couldn't just leave 'newhalf' untranslated, because it's not understood in the West. the only time you can really get away with that is when it's a widely understood loanword, like 'katana', 'ninja', or 'samurai'. I might leave in something like 'bushido' if the context is culturally Japanese. otherwise, you should translate all relevant words, or you get silliness like "just according to keikaku".

>>6168228
as I said, both words are accurate, and shemale would've also caused a twitter tantrum.

[Anonymous No.6168241]

>>6168228
who cares,
`tranny` as a word is as offensive as `gay` is .
which is not at all

[Anonymous No.6168242]

>>6168237

I'm one of the ones who has a problem with "tranny."

Shemale has negative connotations due to the porn industry, while tranny has blood attached to it. So, one is much worse than the other.

[Anonymous No.6168245]

>>6168241

No, it's about as offensive as faggot. It's a word that smoothbrains yell when beating or trying to murder trans or gay folk.

[Anonymous No.6168250]

>>6168242
>>6168245
but in both cases, there's a wide range of usage. while they've both been used maliciously as slurs, they've also been used more casually. 'tranny' was widely used in the 00s, and sometimes people jokingly call each other faggots without meaning anything by it.
you're right, 'shemale' is more strongly associated with porn, and arguably that weighs against it as a word to use in a vidya translation. and how can we be sure that 'shemale' has never been used in a malicious context?
overall, tranny is not exclusively a slur, although it can be. weighing this out, I still think 'tranny' and 'shemale' are equally viable choices.

[Anonymous No.6168268]

>>6167514
>simple
that's where you're wrong kid

[Anonymous No.6168272]

>>6168242
>while tranny has blood attached to it
No one forced you to put on a dress or cut off your dick, so how can you possibly make this claim that it's about "blood"?

>>6168245
>It's a word that anyone yells when beating or trying to murder trans folk
Name 5 examples of this ever happening, you goalpost-moving pervert.

>>6168228
But so is tranny, and tranny is more so, because it's a joke at transvestites' expense. Learn to cope.

[Anonymous No.6168278]

>>6168228
Shemale is only used for transsexuals, while both newhalf and tranny can be used by either transsexuals or cis transvestites.

[Anonymous No.6168296]

>>6168245
Faggot is still way stronger to most people.

Speaking of language though, why is "folk" so common now?

[Anonymous No.6168310]

>People discussing inclusive language in 4chan, of all places
I think that discussion is missing the point. Even if they’re “right” and there’s a better word to reflect the tone and intent of the dialogue, nothing wrong with contacting the author to make a suggestion on his script. If they simply changed it to “I’m trans” or something like that on an update, no one would’ve cared.

The only real problem here was the piece of shit from HG101 who broadcasted to his thousands of followers that the line is what it is because Tom is a malicious alt right transphobic hater, before even contacting anyone directly on the matter. Directing hate against someone on social media is exactly the kind of thing they would’ve been crying about if it was the other way around. What a piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.6168319]

>>6168228
Shemale is more literal in a way - "half-man, half-woman." He/she and ladyboy are similar. I think tranny is the closer in actual usage though, shemale's usage is too narrow in comparison. You can argue over better words, but you can't say tranny is totally inaccurate. It's definitely one of the possible translations.

[Anonymous No.6168328]

>>6168310
Yeah, nitpicking the translation (which is a faithful one, even if alternatives exist) is one thing. Tom actually responded pretty well to someone who politely discussed alternatives. The thing is it only got so much attention in this case because DDS is disliked by ResetEra. He calls them cancer in his bio, blocks them, and follows people they don't like. So they acted like the line was because the translators were "malicious alt right transphobic haters." If the line appeared in a fan translation by somebody else, I doubt it would have caused a stir or even gotten much attention.

[Anonymous No.6168329]

>>6168310
If you don't want inclusive language you shouldn't resort to translations. The whole point of translations is to water down the original script so that illiterates can comprehend part of it.

[Anonymous No.6168340]

>>6168296
No idea, to me I always associated it with US country bumpkin speak. It's pretty neutral in terms of who it can address but also sounds quaint. I'm from Los Angeles in terms of my mixed up dialect but folks always seemed very broad and I think that's what people want to try and use now a days for the sake of being inclusive but simple
>howdy folks/ya'll

[Anonymous No.6168345]

>>6164317
I really need to play more of these beyond what was localized in the 90s. That's why I love the series so much, Starring Goemon is one of my favorite games ever, I have trouble with Great Adventure since it's a lot harder and not the same but it's still really good, the game boy one is meh and I like Legend on SNES
Where do I start

[Anonymous No.6168348]

>>6168340
That makes sense. Since it's associated with bumpkin speak like you said, it comes off as a bit strange to me, like politicians trying to speak differently to rural crowds. The inclusive part explains why hardcore progressives/leftists online tend to use "ya'll" and "folks" a lot. It could be considered a shibboleth.

[Anonymous No.6168351]

>>6168345
Ganbare Goemon 2, 3, and 4 I'd say, especially since they're all translated now. Then you could go back and play the older ones, or the Playstation games.

[Anonymous No.6168356]

>>6168348
Yeah, I think ya'll is a bit more honky if that makes sense but I think folks can have a plain enough connotation that it's not going to ruffle any feathers unless you read into it too hard
>alright folks good work today, clock out and I'll see you tomorrow
>i spent the holidays with my girlfriend and her folks

[Anonymous No.6168357]

>>6168345
The SFC/SNES games, in order, with their respective relocalization and translation hacks.
1-3 are all prepatched here
>>616409
Then wait for 4’s english patch

[Anonymous No.6168358]

>>6168357
Meant to link >>6164094

[Anonymous No.6168365]

>>6168356
Yeah true. Those examples come off as normal to me. Or if somebody say "That's all folks!" like Bugs Bunny.

[Anonymous No.6168368]

>>6168272

I'm not even trans, lmfao

[Anonymous No.6168378]

>>6168365
Yeah that's what I mean, it's easy enough that no one will question it but its still neutral enough to not offend anyone, where as , if you said
>thats all Cishets and LGBTQ+etc. humans
It doesn't bother me but it's still a lot

[Anonymous No.6168407]

>>6168272
>Name 5 examples of this ever happening

This is common as fuck knowledge, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are incredibly amd undeniably retarded

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/domingo-ramirez-cavente-man-admits-shouting-slurs-at-dallas-transgender-woman-and-shooting-her-police-say/

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/nypd-investigates-alleged-subway-assault-trans-woman-possible-hate-crime-n1123291

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/15/us/transgender-woman-dallas.html

https://www.metroweekly.com/2019/08/transgender-woman-beaten-seven-men-outside-northeast-d-c-gas-station/

https://www.kgw.com/mobile/article/news/crime/two-transgender-people-attacked-in-portland-3rd-recent-instance-in-oregon/283-615ed07f-11b9-4f03-ab58-3d85d929acda

[Anonymous No.6168424]

>>6168407
The only one that specifies the slurs is the metroweekly link, saying "slurs like “tranny,” “faggot,” “he/she”, and “sissy.” Although it's not unlikely tranny was used in the other cases too.

"Retarded" is a slur too.

[Anonymous No.6168428]

>>6168310
I can't believe people follow that cocksucker; that's like creating a FBI database of potential sex offenders.

[Anonymous No.6168430]

I just visit this shitty thread to see if Akogingu is getting some progress.

[Anonymous No.6168432]

>>6168430
I figure it will be ready by the time I've finished playing through the other translations. Should work out nicely.

[Anonymous No.6168456]

>>6168424
>"Retarded" is a slur too.
That's retarded.

[Anonymous No.6168464]

>>6168310
>Directing hate against someone on social media is exactly the kind of thing they would’ve been crying about if it was the other way around.
What's really funny is that exactly happened when Kurt started getting pushback about it.


Unrelated, but how are the NES RPGs compared to some of the better NES RPGs? Thinking about giving them a shot.

[Anonymous No.6168540]

>>6168345
there is also one more game on the old gameboy, it is part of the konami collection 3, from europe, it's also in colour

[Anonymous No.6168630]

>>6168540
I believe there are three gameboy titles, each with english releases and three gameboy color games, each only in japanese.

[Anonymous No.6168635]

what does troon mean and where did it come from

[Anonymous No.6168657]

>>6168351
>>6168357
>have fun playing your never released english translations
4 is in limbo,
1 is a programming fix for the US localization, the proper translation is in limbo too
Soreyuke Ebisumaru, Hoshizora Dynamites, and Shin Sedai are in limbo too

[Anonymous No.6168680]

How hard is it to grasp this?

The line is supposed to be offensive. It's like someone doing something stupid and calling themselves a retard, then a bunch of people complaining and wanting to change it to "Silly Billy" or something like that. The line completely loses its emphasis.

[Anonymous No.6168694]

Can someone explain why sasuke starts every sentence with "I dare say" even though nothing about what he says is ostentatious

[Anonymous No.6168703]

>>6168694
It's probably a Japanese thing, if you've ever seen Kenshin, he does something similar.

[Anonymous No.6168704]

>>6168680

The line is "newhalf" and they should have kept it.

[Anonymous No.6168734]

>>6164240
>ZSNES
lol
>>6166483
Goemon is a literary archetype. The "gentleman thief" that lots of countries have stories about.

[Anonymous No.6168753]

>>6168704
Which doesn't work in English, because the majority of people doesn't know what it means. You might as well put "*** ****".

[Anonymous No.6168762]

>>6168753

Anyone who is into japanese games enough to emulate will know what newhalf is just from the capcom quote on Poison from Final Fight.

Even normies know the word.

[Anonymous No.6168764]

>>6168680
Accuracy or not, the truth is that you hardly lose anything by changing "tranny" to "I'm a man".

[Anonymous No.6168772]

>>6168424
Now you are going to claim that no one the Internet goes around saying "kill yourself tranny", "all trannies should die" and more. It's not too hard to put 2 and 2 together. Just like how you say "die nigger", there are people out there killing black people saying that too.

[Anonymous No.6168775]

>>6168772
I wasn't trying to imply that, of course people do use it as a slur and in cases where they're physically attacking somebody it's one word they'd probably use. I'm just messing around by saying the links strictly speaking didn't specify. Wasn't even the guy you were replying to originally, I was just bored and being a dick, sorry.

[Anonymous No.6168778]

>>6168657
Are you making it sound worse than it really is on purpose? Here's what we actually know from lurking both Twitter and RHDN:

DDS/Tom/FlashPV Projects:
GG1 SFC Retranslation: hasn't been mentioned since Tom quit. There were screenshots of the translated intro, but actual progress and current status is unknown.
GG4 SFC Translation: confirmed already translated, DDS is working on the remaining hacking issues, FlashPV is working on the remaining graphics.
Soreyeku Ebisumaru Translation: hasn't been mentioned since Tom quit. But it was mentioned before that the remaining work was related to graphics, which is again handled by FlashPV.

Other people's projects:
Uchuu Kaizoku Akogingu (PS1): "about 85% complete" by MrFwibbles, who's handling hacking and translation himself.
Ooedo Daikaiten (PS1): just started by RaidouJFlo, who is also gonna handle both hacking and translation.
Shin Sedai Shuumei (PS1): hacking work halfway done by acediez. Left without translator, but “will finish the hacking side” regardless. It’s possible either of the other two will take over.

Hoshizora Dynamite (GBC): has NEVER been mentioned to be in the works, afaik.

[Anonymous No.6168782]

Do any of these games have translated manuals?

Or at least tell me what all the new shit means in the Goemon 3 HUD

[Anonymous No.6168797]

>>6168142
>only japanophiles would know the term
Oh no, someone might look up and learn a new word. Let's make sure not to use those big words in the dictionary, lest someone know what they mean. This is how video games have become infantilized to a 3rd grade reading level.

[Anonymous No.6168801]

>>6168797
тoчнo

[Anonymous No.6168812]

>>6168797

Reminding me of why I love Parasite Eve, and the game.

[Anonymous No.6168820]

>>6168797
Honestly it's 2020. People always have a damn pocket computer within arms reach. It's not the early 90s where an encyclopedia won't have the info.

[Anonymous No.6168884]

>>6168464
What I think is funnier is that Kurt probably now thinks Voultar is some sort of alt-right mastermind

[Anonymous No.6168906]

Instead of being mad trannies should try being normal instead.

[Anonymous No.6168952]

>>6168778
>Are you making it sound worse than it really is on purpose?
Downplaying much?
Original post even said "you can play all SNES games in English now" but only 2 of those ever released. GG1 was a programming fix for the US version, not Tom's proper retranslation.

>DDS/Tom/FlashPV Projects
Programmers won't go ahead with a release if the translator isn't okay with it
>Uchuu Kaizoku Akogingu (PS1)
Had TWO projects by two hackers, one Tom was interested in.
"Good riddance Tom, we have another translator" you might say, but this is literally why Goemon 2 is even out after two drama queens hoarded the project for two decades.
ResetEra is monitoring that newer translation now, and they already sent goons to RHDN to try and get GG3 removed, so that one might not even release.
>Shin Sedai Shuumei (PS1)
Tom was the translator for that one.
>Hoshizora Dynamite (GBC): has NEVER been mentioned to be in the works, afaik.
Was in the works too. Lurk moar.
Or maybe it's for the best you don't.

It's creepy how some shills here creep out of the woodworks and say things like "actually he maliciously chose/made up that word" "he's faking the harassment" "situation is not as bad as it is" AND on twitter and resetera the same parties that caused all of this are saying the EXACT SAME LINES and complain about "/vr/ being unusable for the next month because of this" so we know they lurk here at the very least.
Then "you can discuss those english versions that don't exist, of this problem game series" ... whose intelligence are you insulting? Next thing you know, "there has never been a fan translator called Tom" isn't out of the question.

[Anonymous No.6168956]

>>6168906
And trannies can be exceptional snowflakes, but even I feel bad for them here.
This is purely an internet feud between resetera and dds, with as much collateral damage as possible.

[Anonymous No.6168961]

>>6168956
>implying resetera was even involved
It was just a feud between HG101, twitterfags, dds, and alt right fags.

[Anonymous No.6168976]

>>6168961
HG101 is a member of resetera who thinks
>"resetera is cancer" is an alt-right meme
and brings it up as proof that DDS is an alt right fag.
DDS' twitter has always been just romhacking business, aside from "resetera is cancer" in his bio (because they and Kotaku attacked RHDN and got a modder banned before, but what do you know, only the altright is allowed to less than love resetera)

Read this, and look at the dates. It's a pretty damning read.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/translations-for-goemon-2-3-sequels-to-legend-of-the-mystical-ninja-have-finally-been-released.166598

[Anonymous No.6168979]

>>6168952
>Programmers won't go ahead with a release if the translator isn't okay with it

Have you actually asked DDS what he's going to do with Tom's translation?

[Anonymous No.6168981]

>>6168775
It's all good brudda.

[Anonymous No.6168984]

>>6168764
It's a translation not a localisation, the term is supposed to be offensive , so changing it to something that isn't offensive... I'm sure you can work the rest of it out on your own.

[Anonymous No.6169031]

>DDS deleted the tweet where he said GG4 would be released mid 2020
SHIT SHIT SHIT IT'S OVER
FUCK RESETERA AND FUCK HG101

[Anonymous No.6169040]

>>6169031
Will you fucking calm down? DDS hasn't even said anything yet

[Anonymous No.6169046]

>>6169040
And he never said it was going to be released Mid 2020. He said he would like to have it done by then.

Also, this Tweet was three days ago. Says nothing about the translation being canceled

https://twitter.com/DDSTranslation/status/1221973853355855877

[Anonymous No.6169049]

>>6168952
Calm your tits dude

[Anonymous No.6169050]

>>6169031
>Ironic Fearmongering

[Anonymous No.6169067]

>>6169049
>>6169050
Seriously. If the project was canceled, DDS would've posted about it by now

[Anonymous No.6169095]

>>6168984
>It's a translation not a localisation, the term is supposed to be offensive , so changing it to something that isn't offensive... I'm sure you can work the rest of it out on your own.
Here's the problem, though: every good translation requires localization. I see it in my native language: translate terms literally and they don't make any sense in English. Localize them and they make sense, but guess what: you've changed the terms and replaced them with something the audience does get.

In this particular Goemon example localization was absolutely needed, as "tranny" in 2019 doesn't mean the same thing as "newhalf" did for Japanese audiences back in the early 90s. In the translator's attempt to be "accurate" (when Shemale is actually closer to newhalf), the perception of the term is as inaccurate as it can get.

[Anonymous No.6169105]

>>6169095
"I'm actually a shemale" just sounds so off and unnatural to me though. I'd prefer something like "I used to be a guy" or "I'm actually a crossdresser/transvestite" to that, even though those are less accurate.

Getting away from this specific case though, do you always need to localize for modern sensibilities? Like if there's a classic novel that you're translating to a new language, and they use an old fashioned insult. It would be better I think to translate it accurately and let people learn the context and background knowledge to understand and appreciate it. It might not be as easily approachable that way, but I can't see localizing for modern audiences as always being the right choice.

[Anonymous No.6169123]

>>6169105
Let's ask Nigger Jim.

[Anonymous No.6169132]

>>6169095
That's hard, perception of terms isn't universal, and it's difficult to measure. When translating between cultures, there's all kinds of little things that carry more or less weight. Not sure if trying to erase those differences completely is possible or worthwhile. Even the people using the same language will have a bunch of different cultures (like ResetEra culture's perception vs the general population's perception). Not to say tranny was the best choice necessarily, just pointing out how challenging it can be trying to preserve perceptions. I guess it's about finding a balance between making it understandable without losing too much of the original meaning.

[Anonymous No.6169151]

You know, I wish DDS would update us on what's going to happen with GG4 since Tom left. Is he going to re translate it or keep Toms script?

[Anonymous No.6169297]

>>6169151
I stillhope Tom will come back, but for now, he is pissed offfor weeks or months. I would like to have all Goemon games in english

[Anonymous No.6169303]

>>6169297
GG4 is finished, but DDS should let us know if Tom's script is staying or not. It's irritating that he won't tell us, and it's tough to contact him

[Anonymous No.6169328]

>>6168782
>translated manuals?
This please

[Anonymous No.6169351]

>>6168407
>1 out of 5 examples actually meets the criteria I asked for
>all ghetto trash in examples
You had one job lol

>>6168772
>no evidence for claims at all except "everyone knows"
>frogposting
Retard.

[Anonymous No.6169354]

>>6169095
>every good translation requires localization.
[citation needed]
I don't see books "localized" like games today, and it's no coincidence which one is the more respected medium.
>shemale
Still "offensive".

>>6169040
>>6169046
If the translator doesn't want it released, it won't. End of the discussion. That's standard practice in the romhacking scene.
Even if the programmer goes ahead and release it, under RHDN policy it will get taken down, and no other translator will work again with that programmer (which I guess is one way to make resetera happy here)
In this case, the translator said he doesn't want to release anything else, in fear that it contains something offensive HE will be held accountable for, even though he was sure it didn't. This is particularly applicable to Goemon 4 (which has something HG101's goons could interpret as pedophilia endorsement within the first 30 seconds)

>ask DDS
Part of the problem is resetera assholes who want an updated patch NAW from the translator (who can't even hack it in), so pestering the translation "group" to immediately give a time frame for the release after all what they have been through is insensitive and adding more fuel to the fire.
All other programmers Tom was in contact with, just cancelled their projects (Zill O Zill, Goemon for GBC) and the common belief in RHDN is that those projects are as good as cancelled until Tom comes back.

>Also, this Tweet was three days ago. Says nothing about the translation being canceled
Before Tom locked his account and posted the apology.

>fearmongering
Actions have consequences in the real world. We know damn well who is, right this instant, stalking forums, podcasts, and imageboards to downplay the magnitude of what just happened, or shift the blame around to Tom, DDS, the trans community, Romhacking.net members, random youtubers... anything but the actual instigator.

Future Goemon translators, work on it in secret and shadow drop it.

[Anonymous No.6169358]

>>6168368
>I am too low IQ or autistic uwu

[Anonymous No.6169375]

>>6169354
The DDS tweet was on the 27th. Tom's apology was the 26th

[Anonymous No.6169385]

>>6168976
>HG101 is a member of resetera
No it isn't, I've read that thread before and nowhere did they even condoned HG101's tweet. Maybe some did but most didn't.

[Anonymous No.6169389]

>>6169385
DiscoAlucard is Kurt aka HG101

[Anonymous No.6169393]

>>6168976
>being such a CREEP as to comb through your social media accounts
cancer is an understatement

[Anonymous No.6169403]

>>6169389
Still I'm not seeing anybody condoning his namecalling, neither did they blame the translator for being uncooperative because they know Tom has some personal issues to deal with, the consensus on resetera is this situation could be handled in a more constructive way.

[Anonymous No.6169410]

>>6169354
Then why hasn't DDS announced GG4 is canceled then?

[Anonymous No.6169427]

>>6169389
>>6169403
And also DDS is painting Tom as the victim instead of helping with the situation.

>>6169410
Because Tom is just a translator while it's largely the DDS hackers and programmers who actually implement the texts into the game. I don't think Tom is even officially a part of DDS.

[Anonymous No.6169430]

>>6169427
>I don't think Tom is even officially a part of DDS
god, i hope he isn't given dds is just one person. some kind of conjoined twin shit going on.

[Anonymous No.6169448]

>>6169430
Well I didn't realize it but my point still stands then.

[Anonymous No.6169562]

>>6165364
>>6165353
>Believing tranny is a slur.
lol go back to Resetara.

[Anonymous No.6169572]

>>6168079
>>6165353
>>6166858
>>6168250
>>6168424
>>6168775
>Slur
>Slur
What the fuck are we in high school again? Need some safe spaces to go and live in?

[Anonymous No.6169597]

>>6169562
If you could avoid upsetting so many people and causing huge drama over it, why not. It's been proven over and over again that the translation wasn't accurate because it didn't have the same cultural connotation as it does in Japan. People who defend the translation just want to protect their ego, that's all.

>>6169572
More like because I'm not a highschooler anymore, I'm an adult with a rational mind now, I don't feel the need to upset a group of people for no reason.

[Anonymous No.6169612]

>>6164317
PS1 Shin Sedai is mid tier
GBA is low.

[Anonymous No.6169621]

>>6169354
>and no other translator will work again with that programmer (which I guess is one way to make resetera happy here)

Who, besides you, decided that?

[Anonymous No.6169635]

>>6169562
>>6169572
Easy there anon, I have no problem with the translation and hate ResetEra. Discussing whether or not alternative translations would work as well is just entertaining to me.

[Anonymous No.6169636]

I want a Goemon pipe.

[Anonymous No.6169637]

>>6169612
Not with those bullshit impact fights.

[Anonymous No.6169672]

>>6169597
>change content coded into a game or YOU'RE the egotist
Can we stop with the mental gymnastics, please? If you don't like Goemon, just don't play it. Done.

[Anonymous No.6169676]

>>6169672
>content coded into a game
Ok brainlet.

[Anonymous No.6169706]

>>6169597
>It's been proven over and over again that the translation wasn't accurate because it didn't have the same cultural connotation as it does in Japan.

There isn't exactly anything like newhalf in the english repertoire. There's something wrong with every choice. But it's probably within the toss up of the two best words you could choose.

But here's where you're wrong. It does have a similar cultural connotation as it does in Japan, the problem is it has a different cultural connotation with a particular sub-culture. And that difference only started to solidify around 2015.

Right now, I suspect that most people still regard it as a silly abbreviation. It is definitely used as a slur, but not exclusively. If you hear it as a slur more often than a neutral or positive context, it might be because you're on 4chan. Only time will tell if the general english speaking population will adopt the emerging understanding, or ignore it because we're tired of "dirty words" and we know where they lead anyway.

[Anonymous No.6169719]

>>6169676
Feel free to code a new translation patch yourself, then, retard.

[Anonymous No.6169737]

>>6169676
Konami intended "newhalf" as a funny, ironic slur. Either deal with it or don't play.

[Anonymous No.6169813]

>>6169635
I agree we should think about alternatives to the word man and woman. Its current year and we need to have all the alphabet soup represented.
>>6169597
>If you could avoid upsetting so many people and causing huge drama over it, why not
Because no matter what the moralist panic crowd will never be happy. No matter how many changes are made to something they will never buy it. Did you see how Marvel comics when they did those types of comics to cater to them no one bought it or cared and almost ran the comic book industry to the ground, or when Star Wars had that awful trilogy everyone checked out. These types will always find something to whine and complain until they have censored half of the English language and supplanted it with their own. With this more people were interested than not.
>I'm not a highschooler
>Believes in wrongthink
You are sheltered from the real world and if you ever worked a job outside your middle class gated neighborhood you would see how much nobody cares about your protected class when they have lives more important than your own.

[Anonymous No.6169824]

>Words hurt feelings so we should never use them
The internet is far too soft due to the fact of many normalfags became moralfags are everywhere.

[Anonymous No.6169828]

>>6169813
>I agree we should think about alternatives to the word man and woman. Its current year and we need to have all the alphabet soup represented.
Not sure what your point is here or how it relates to what I said. There's often not one, absolute way to translate something. I think the translator did a good job here, but there are other valid translations possible.

[Anonymous No.6169856]

>>6169706
"I used to be a guy." It doesn't use a specific word so it's not 100% accurate, but if you wanted to be blunt and playfully offensive without actually pissing anyone off, that's how you'd do it.

[Anonymous No.6169863]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvfFIfbEHHI&feature=youtu.be&t=163

This is in the cut scene and you have to localize it, what do you do?

[Anonymous No.6169864]

>>6169856
Bullshit. Someone, somewhere will get pissed off at that.
>one option pisses off a lot of people
>one option only pisses off a few people
If someone gets pissed either way, the choice is obvious.

[Anonymous No.6169865]

>>6169863
He's saying "Funky." I add subtitles to the song with the english words in all caps for emphasis so that even the most annoying parent will see clearly what the word is.

[Anonymous No.6169869]

>>6169863
Just noticed 2:36 before that

[Anonymous No.6169870]

>>6169864
>>6169856
Why does it have to be translated at all?

[Anonymous No.6169871]

>>6169354
>Even if the programmer goes ahead and release it, under RHDN policy it will get taken down
It's just such a necessity to release things on a terrible site whose head mod & Discord is ran by a tranny (Mistress Saeko/Azkadellia).
There's this thing called uploading it elsewhere. There are "news" posts for these translations that aren't being put out because of their tranny staff.

[Anonymous No.6169876]

>>6169870
It doesn't and a guy did it because he wanted to

[Anonymous No.6169881]

>>6169876
I hope he and others learned the lessons and stop doing it.

[Anonymous No.6169891]

>>6169737
Newhalf was a commonly used term in japan and not deemed as offensive. Moreover it's still used by the newhalves to address themselves as even to this day, although not as common as in the 90s.

>>6169813
>Because no matter what the moralist panic crowd will never be happy.
Not really, its the first time this happened to goemon translation.
>they will never buy it
Its a free rom.
>Did you see how
I saw how N words aren't used by the mainstream media anymore regardless people buying it or not because it is deemed offensive to a group of people.
>You are sheltered from the real world
In fact not.
>protected class
All I'm asking is why get in a pointless clash when there are better and more peaceful alternatives.

>>6169870
Yeah just write newhalf as intended by the game. It's the only factually accurate and literal translation. Go add translator note or something for those who dont get it. I thought people who cared about accuracy preferred translator note to localization?

[Anonymous No.6169892]

>>6169881
>>>/leftypol/

[Anonymous No.6169902]

>>6169891
The only good translation is a non-translation. Even transcribing the Japanese to Romaji goes too far.

[Anonymous No.6169907]

>>6169865
The CRT overscan hides the subtitle

[Anonymous No.6169986]

>>6169907
I don't place it at the immediate bottom of the screen, I have it slightly above the lowermost HUD. If your overscan goes that far, you've got way bigger problems than thinking your game said a bad word.

[Anonymous No.6170061]

>>6169891
>All I'm asking is why get in a pointless clash when there are better and more peaceful alternatives.
>Gets in a pointless clash over a word in a game.
You have to go back.

[Anonymous No.6170073]

>>6169891
You're the one insisting someone must be forced to do a retranslation project, asshole. Tranny is still an appropriate translation of newhalf, by the way, and trannies still voluntary refer to themselves as that, either playfully or nonchalantly. Stop with the moralist panic.

[Anonymous No.6170081]

>>6169891
The point of translating "newhalf" is to communicate the humor. Transliterating it only hardly does that, especially if the player has to stop and look up the word, or they see it and are baffled by it. Either possibility leads to an effect on the player not intended by the game's script, so a translation is definitely necessary, here. "Tranny" is good enough, though of course, there could have been other possibilities, but that's in the realm of hypotheticals, since the project is done and likely will not be fixed by the current translation team.

[Anonymous No.6170082]

>>6170081
*will not be edited

[Anonymous No.6170118]

The fact that you've got all these posts from people who want to change it but come up with potentially worse or just plain awkward suggestions more than enforces the fact that it should be left as it is.

Just release an alt censored patch for sensitive people with the word starred out. Problem solved.

[Anonymous No.6170226]

>>6170118
>Just release an alt censored patch for sensitive people
Somebody already did so I don't know why people are still bitching.

[Anonymous No.6170245]

>>6169828
I get you then. I thought you were trying to say that there is not one absolute way. But at some point the original meaning gets lost in translation if ground is given. I can understand other places that call for a similar word but not for those that call for it and are going to demand more due to hurt feelings and Erasure. When you give them ground you basically conceded power.
>>6169891
I am going to call Poe's Law on this.
>>6170226
The issue comes from the fact that although this happened the original was then deleted off the site due to the moralfag crowd crying over it and using that as a base to call for censorship and "changes to something better". I have no issues with having two versions or even multiple. My issue comes down to the fact that when one side is favored over the other that is a cause for concern. Even when it comes from intellectual dishonesty.

[Anonymous No.6170247]

>>6170226
It largely died down though there were some people complaining to the people who made the censored patch for stealing work or something.

[Anonymous No.6170280]

>>6164621
what did he say

[Anonymous No.6170325]

At least Snes Central deleted his twitter account.

[Anonymous No.6170387]

>>6167476
>makes it unacceptable.
I'm not paying for your SRS, you sick fuck.

[Anonymous No.6170405]

>>6168772
>name-calling is violence!
I can't wait until WW3 and all of you worthless neo-liberal transfags go 41% yourselves when the mortars start dropping.

[Anonymous No.6170406]

>>6167476
>It's the worst word to call a trans

This doesn't mean anything. What's the worst word to call an ugly person? A white person? A fat person? A homeless person? Not every group has slurs that are considered explicit.

[Anonymous No.6170428]

>>6170406
That's the thing—the only reason 'nigger' is so taboo is because it has strong historical and cultural implications in the US. It's emasculating to call a black man that because it has implications of slavery.

'Tranny' has no such history. In fact, it's just an off-hand shortening like 'Jap' or 'Chink'. Sure it's derogatory and a bit insulting, but ultimately pretty harmless. These faggots throwing up TRIGGER WARNINGs about the word are just ridiculous attention whores.

[Anonymous No.6170429]

>>6170406
>What's the worst word to call an ugly person?
Tranny

[Anonymous No.6170432]

>>6170429

[Anonymous No.6170450]

>>6170428
That's why Trans types want so badly for "Tranny" and "Trap" to be a derogatory term and use the whole small event as a historical basis. To make it "their" word. They are jealous and perhaps racist against Blacks due to the fact they will never gave enough victimhood points to topple the pyramid or the Opression Olympics that Blacks have or had to overcome hardly anything.

[Anonymous No.6170451]

>the original was then deleted off the site due to the moralfag crowd crying over it
The original translation is still available, and I don't see the replacement anywhere on the site.
http://www.romhacking.net/translations/5354/

I think one thing to keep in mind though is that while it's fun to pick apart this one line obsessively, you could do the same for tons of other lines in this or any other translation. This is a good game translation, and I feel like the only real reason this line initially got so much scrutiny is because ResetEra was offended by DDS's twitter account (despite it not his account not being offensive to anybody besides them). If that never came up, people probably wouldn't have gave much thought to the line, or laughed it off as a 90s Japanese game thing. Instead, malicious intent was assumed by some based on their perception of the translators.

I feel like it's beating a dead horse at this point though. I'm really happy to see these games translated finally, and hope Tom decides to get back to translating sometime.

[Anonymous No.6170454]

>>6170451
>>6170245

[Anonymous No.6170459]

>>6170245
>the original was then deleted off the site due to the moralfag crowd crying over it
The original translation is still available, and I don't see the replacement anywhere on the site.
http://www.romhacking.net/translations/5354/

I think one thing to keep in mind though is that while it's fun to pick apart this one line obsessively, you could do the same for tons of other lines in this or any other translation. This is a good game translation, and I feel like the only real reason this line initially got so much scrutiny is because ResetEra was offended by DDS's twitter account (despite his account not being offensive to anybody besides them). If that never came up, people probably wouldn't have gave much thought to the line, or laughed it off as a 90s Japanese game thing. Instead, malicious intent was assumed by some based on their perception of the translators.

I feel like it's beating a dead horse at this point though. I'm really happy to see these games translated finally, and hope Tom decides to get back to translating sometime.

[Anonymous No.6170461]

>>6170245
>the original was then deleted off the site
What do you mean?, DDS's translation is still there. Is it the version 2.0 thing that's throwing you off? That was to fix a bug that affected one of the game over screens.
Hell, he's even working on a new patch for Goemon 2 to fix a bug where you can get stuck in an endless dialog loop.
>>6170325
>At least Snes Central deleted his twitter account.
Not surprised, he always seemed like a thin-skinned little bitch.

[Anonymous No.6170470]

>>6170451
>>6170459
>>6170461
Interesting I thought it was dead or deleted someone said on the last thread it was deleted or was going to beand I agree with you. Thanks >>6170454 I no longer have issue with the translation now that both versions are up.

[Anonymous No.6170512]

>>6170459
>hope Tom decides to get back to translating sometime.
Same here. I hope we can send him letters of encouragement. He has worked hard and it would be terrible to lose someone like him now.

[Anonymous No.6170535]

>>6170512
yeah, I hope he comes back, not only because I want more games translated, it would be a shame that one his passions is coming to an end, because some people think they can blame him for something trivial

[Anonymous No.6170574]

>>6170450
It's funny, blacks see through their shit better than anybody. I wish I had that one webm of the nigger just absolutely curbstomping the faggot.

[Anonymous No.6170578]

>>6170535
This. I genuinely feel for the guy. It's pretty sad that the faggots who harassed him did it specifically to ruin him over a word, and not because of any authentic outrage.

[Anonymous No.6170659]

>even actual tranny SJWs don't know what the fuck this is going on about.
in before le reddit

[Anonymous No.6170663]

>>6170659
>Also, the SMT community of all people should remember that Tom is a huge drama queen that threatens to quit the scene constantly.
Reddit faggots need to die, but this is a good point. I hate that we're whitewashing him as a martyr just because SJW attacked him.

[Anonymous No.6170665]

>>6170659
Basically confirms what >>6168135 said

[Anonymous No.6170667]

>>6170659
>gamergate-adjacent blogs
What the fuck does that mean? Who's talking about gamergate?

[Anonymous No.6170697]

>>6170665
Literally the only people who care about this shit are:
- Virtue signaler Kurt
- Drama queen Tom
- /vr/, overblowing this crap like crazy just so they can blame trans of something.

[Anonymous No.6170706]

>>6170667
Trans think that anyone that calls them an SJW with relation to vidya must be part of gamergate.

[Anonymous No.6170712]

https://www.romhacking.net/translations/5369/

[Anonymous No.6170719]

>>6170712
Alt-right nazi trumptards btfo.

[Anonymous No.6170747]

>>6170535
Absolutely. At some point destroying others for petty things loses great heros and those who love what they do. Purity spirals are the worst of society.

[Anonymous No.6170761]

>>6168135
No joke what happened was a woman said it was "cultural appropriation" essentially made up word to mean "dressing up" or "cosplay" as another culture. She was called out by Mexicans in Spanish and in English.
>>6170667
The thing is anon. They have PTSD still from 8ch and Gamergate that 6 years later they still talk about it as if it exists today. They assume it's them everywhere.
>>6170663
At least he does not censor something to prevent hurt feelings.

[Anonymous No.6170770]

>>6170712
>This IPS patch modifies a single line for those who are sensitive to Konami’s original dialog.

>Massive thanks to Tom for his incredible translation work and for bringing new experiences to non-Japanese speaking players.

Classy, and respectable.

[Anonymous No.6170789]

>>6170712
Pretty lame that it exists, but whatever.
>>6170770
Should have given a massive thanks to DDS too.

[Anonymous No.6170792]

>>6170789
>Should have given a massive thanks to DDS too.
Tom did the translation, not DDS

[Anonymous No.6170795]

>>6170792
DDS was the one that hacked the game and made the translation patch possible. The games were difficult to hack, one reason it took so long for them to be released.

[Anonymous No.6170798]

>>6170795
*them meaning the English translations

[Anonymous No.6170801]

>>6170795
>>6170789
I'm just pointlessly nitpicking though, I'm sure they didn't mean any harm by it.

[Anonymous No.6170864]

>>6169351
>unironically asking for evidence on a thread with people shitting on trannies

[Anonymous No.6170873]

>>6169354
>I don't see books "localized" like games today, and it's no coincidence which one is the more respected medium.
How often do people read translated Japanese books? Not very often.
>Still "offensive".
Not as offensive as "tranny" is and if you'd ask a transgender person, I'm willing to say they are more willing to settle with people seeing them as sex objects, than seeing them as something that needs to be put down.

[Anonymous No.6170880]

>>6170081
I think the joke is not the use of the slur, but the fact the person you are talking to is a man. That's literally it. Unless we pretend japs are retards who laugh at the fact "newhalf" is used (not too surprising considering retards think a game using the word "nigger" is based and redpilled), there's no reason to die on the "use tranny!" ground.

[Anonymous No.6170881]

>>6170405
Thanks for the evidence.

[Anonymous No.6170890]

>>6170667
>>6170706
People who unironically support GamerGate and are unsurprisingly rightwing and against "SJWs".
>must be part of gamergate
Yeah, after all One Angry Gamer doesn't literally have a tag called "GamerGate" in his website, and KotakuInAction doesn't have "the main hub for GamerGate on Reddit" on its sidebar. Are you literally retarded?

[Anonymous No.6170907]

>>6170880
>game using the word "nigger"

GTA san andreas?

[Anonymous No.6171040]

>>6170890
Anon, I'm angry that I have to explain this to you, but we're arguing in bad faith intentionally so that we can piss off trannies.

You...You didn't think any board on 4chan was SERIOUS, did you? The only real board is /pol/, every other board is about pushing /pol/'s agenda in bad faith into other mediums. Moot was literally in the Klan, you dummy.

[Anonymous No.6171135]

>>6170659
There's tranny SJWs, and then there's ResetEra.
This situation is strictly the latter's mess.

Stop lumping troons in a situation they have nothing to do with. Even if they are SJW troons.
They were NOT the ones who went after the translators. It's ridiculous to blame them for this.

>>6170663
>we
>whitewashing
Your ResetEra is showing, newfag.

>Tom is a huge drama queen
Irrelevant, when they admit to flood him with PMs, contact his real life acquaintances, and try to ruin anyone by association over this. What happened is very real and had real consequences (other unrelated series formally cancelled like Zill O' Zill)

[Anonymous No.6171174]

>>6167476
>makes it unacceptable
To who? I accepted it just fine.

[Anonymous No.6171269]

>>6171135
Whitewashing isn't a resetera term

[Anonymous No.6171417]

>>6171174
As a translator. Goemon uses lots of crude humor but it never tries to be really hurtful. There's a difference between a rude joke and a shitpost from /v/. Whether you think it's right or not that trans consider that the worst word, they do, so you shouldn't use it. For all this complaining about how trans take offense at everything, the only one objecting to the five or six better translations in this thread is you, Anon.

>>6171040
With how far 4chan has fallen I'm afraid someone might take this guy seriously.

[Anonymous No.6171590]

There's a new patch to fix the endless looping text in Mechanical World

https://twitter.com/DDSTranslation/status/1223054337330511878

[Anonymous No.6171679]

>>6171135
>troons
Go back to Something Awful.

[Anonymous No.6172107]

>>6170881
Help, you're cyberviolencing me with your hate words! Help me, Patreon!

[Anonymous No.6172186]

>>6172107
If you are going to be such a little bitch you may as well quit your translation career :^).

[Anonymous No.6172192]

>>6171135
>when they admit to flood him with PMs, contact his real life acquaintances, and try to ruin anyone by association over this.
Post proof.

I guarantee you that if Tom had removed the slur, the backslash he would have gotten would have been absolutely massive. That's exactly what happened wth Ion Fury: 100 ResetEra members complain, a bottle of soap is removed, thousands of reeeghtwingers start boycotting the game as a result.

[Anonymous No.6172319]

>>6172192
>Post proof.
lol this whole thread is filled with deleted 'proof' retard

[Anonymous No.6172429]

>>6172319
How convenient.

[Anonymous No.6172470]

>>6172192
Nobody can take a fucking joke anymore. It saddens me.

[Anonymous No.6172507]

>>6172192
The real snowflakes are /pol/, the second you stop pandering specifically to them they get out the knives.

[Anonymous No.6172550]

how do people rank the snes games? I've only played 1 and 2

[Anonymous No.6172558]

>>6172550
4 > 2 > 1

Depending on whether you like 3's Metroid/Zelda approach, it will be either your favorite or least favorite of the 4 games.

[Anonymous No.6172671]

>>6172192
ion fury was made for fans of other build engine games that had lots of offensive jokes, they were going against their target audience. lots of other censored games aren't publicly shit on half as much.

[Anonymous No.6172728]

Well someone caved in and gave the resetera trannys what they wanted.
Wont help, they wont forgive you. Capitulation to them just makes them demand more of you.

[Anonymous No.6172753]

fuck mechanical castle in goemon 3

[Anonymous No.6172863]

>>6170712
>>6170770
>P-please, Tom, don't leave.

[Anonymous No.6172896]

>>6162839
>this is the quality of Japanese comedy gold

[Anonymous No.6172951]

>>6170712
>I wasn't always a girl
That's a blatant mistranslation, though. "Newhalf" has never meant "[formerly a boy/girl but now a] girl/boy." If they had to whitewash the script, they could have said "trans" or whatever. That would have still
kept the humorous element about it, but now that has been lost in translation because some people just can't laugh at themselves. Sad.

[Anonymous No.6172958]

>>6170719
>Tom is a nazi and voted for Trump
>Konami are nazis and voted for Trump
This is your brain on HRT.

[Anonymous No.6172971]

>>6171417
>As a translator. Goemon uses lots of crude humor but it never tries to be really hurtful.
Goemon calls Baron a FAGGOT repeatedly in the N64 version, with the explicit intention to offend him. First boss. The word is written in a 72pt font, and flashes between yellow and white.
Plots for N64 and 2 are basically "gaijins, fuck off back where you came from"

No way random tranny NPC is more offensive than Bismaru, a main character with a glorious mode 7 female benis. If you take offense with the former, you're better off not playing the game at all. Not even a 4kids dub would "save" it, and Konami/Nintendo knew and reprinted the first game in 1994 instead of bothering with sequels at all.

And you're not a translator, you're a localizer remember? Localizers aren't held to translation ethics like being true to the original text. That's the whole point behind the distinction.

In other news, Tom quit twitter permanently.

[Anonymous No.6172973]

>>6172951
Anon, why do you care? You have the original japanese version and the original translation left in.

[Anonymous No.6172983]

>>6172973
ResetEra, why do you care?

>You have the original japanese version and the original translation left in.
You mean the one the translator was harassed into quitting over it, depriving the world of finished translations for most of the remaining games in the series?
And which they sent goons to try and remove from RHDN, and will certainly try it a few months later like they are used to?

[Anonymous No.6172990]

>>6172983
I asked a legitimate question and got the run around lol.

[Anonymous No.6173006]

>>6172973
Because it's a mistranslation of the Japanese that changes the line from a joke to a serious tone. It's sad that certain people are suffering from a mental illness that causes them to be unable to laugh at themselves, to the extent that they must change entire dialogue and characterization in order to remain calm. That's troubling for them, and on different but related matter, also for the people that they often police to conform to their illness.

[Anonymous No.6173009]

>>6172990
This >>6173006 is me. Also, I presented a legitimate criticism here >>6172951
and you deflected with it an ad hominem lol.

[Anonymous No.6173012]

>>6173006
>>6173009
Do you also care this much when people play the US version of FF6? I was asking why this matters to you when you clearly have two versions of the game that you prefer.

None of this effects your personal enjoyment of the game unless you're autistic about what other people are doing. I say this as someone who is playing the original translations.

[Anonymous No.6173014]

>>6173009
>ad hominem

Where?

[Anonymous No.6173031]

>>6173012
The US version of FF6 doesn't change the intent of a line from a joke to a crisis, so no, not comparably to this. Again, it would have still been fine if they translated "newhalf" as "trans" or something similar, as the humorous irony would have remained intact, but this is entirely rewritten dialogue with a different purpose than intended by the original writers.

>>6173014
You, irrelevantly, asked me why I personally cared to criticize this rather than dealing with the criticism I gave. That's deflecting away from my criticism and towards me personally. That's the very definition of ad hominem.

[Anonymous No.6173048]

This thread is fucking gay. This thread is gayer than a gaggle of trannies composing a pile of faggotry ass-pounding each other with their feminine penises.

[Anonymous No.6173049]

>>6173031
That is not ad hominem. It was a legitimate question from one person using the original translation to another. You yourself are being a sensitive little bitch in all of this and reading way too far into people's supposed motives.

For future reference, the little bitch comment in the above paragraph is an insult, and still not an ad hominem. Do yourself a favor and learn what terms mean. It will make you look less retarded in the future.

[Anonymous No.6173051]

>>6173048
Hot

[Anonymous No.6173058]

>>6173049
>It was a legitimate question from one person using the original translation to another.
It had nothing to do with the translation. You asked me why I, myself, cared. Seethe.

[Anonymous No.6173089]

>>6173058
>becoming visually upset when asked a simple question

Cope.

[Anonymous No.6173092]

>>6168797
disagree. if it's a translation, you shouldn't have to randomly look up untranslated words. every word should be translated within reason. this is not equivalent to using more advanced vocabulary within the target language. the whole point of a translation is to make the text accessible to a person who doesn't know the native language, and leaving untranslated words falls short of this.

>>6169095
yes, you need to balance the literal meaning vs intention, as well as considering cultural context. however, I think 'tranny' is an accurate rendering of 'newhalf' -- a slang term that's somewhat less than respectful. if he translated the kana literally into newhalf, that would've fallen short, as I said above.

>>6173031
'trans' is too respectful, though.

[Anonymous No.6173114]

>>6168142
>leaving shit like nakama & keikaku untranslated
may as well leave in all the honorifics too, ya cringey weeb

[Anonymous No.6173119]

>>6173089
>not being able to cope after being called out for deflecting to protect copers
laughs.jpg

[Anonymous No.6173124]

>>6173092
>'trans' is too respectful, though.
Perhaps, but the humorous element would still be there, even if only now euphemistically. This new, rewritten, cope line is just retarded.

[Anonymous No.6173125]

>>6172558
goemon 4 removing the giant mech battles cheeses me off though

[Anonymous No.6173138]

>>6172550
I'd say 2 > 1 > 4, haven't gotten far enough in 3 to say where that fits

[Anonymous No.6173169]

>>6173124
I agree that the cope line veers too far out of the way to avoid giving offense. that's the problem with bending the knee to moral crusaders -- once you censor a little bit, that's the tip of the wedge, which leads to compromising artistic freedom & integrity.

[Anonymous No.6173241]

are the final 3 tablets in goemon 3 given at once in a dumb fetch quest because the game was rushed or something
it doesnt have a proper final stage either, just several bosses in a row

[Anonymous No.6173242]

Well that was comfy

Was it scummy to farm money from the cave in hagure town, buy full gold armor and fish rice ball, and hotspring buff twice?

[Anonymous No.6173268]

>>6173241
Yes, there were supposed to be at least 2 extra dungeons to explore, which are still left in as short introductions to a boss fight.

[Anonymous No.6173290]

>>6172728
Apologising and/or giving in to those cunts is the absolute worst thing you can possibly do. They're like wild animals, they will NEVER leave him alone now.

[Anonymous No.6173339]

>>6173290
Literally no one cares outside of this thread anymore lmao

[Anonymous No.6173342]

>>6173268
Lame. 3 should have gotten more dev time

[Anonymous No.6173347]

>>6167476

[Anonymous No.6173356]

>>6164094
Why is the file size for 3 so much bigger than the unpatched ROM, and what does [n] mean?

[Anonymous No.6173359]

>>6173290
That was someone else. DDS intends to update GG3 without changing the line in question, for bug fixes and things like that.

The first one who changed this from "tranny" to "trans" was, soon after getting credited for the translation by tiny cartridge and hg101, also accused by twitter trannies of transphobia because the game was still transphobic in other parts. Notably one who was offended by the rest of the line, "this reinforces the negative stereotype that trans people should disclose their past to sexual partners and live in fear" (just wow, really) and that line should be removed too.
He actually deactivated his twitter too after HE TOO was attacked over the game's contents.

The one on RHDN is by someone else, crediting Konami for the line, the entire translation team for the project, thanking Tom, and made for "people who were offended by Konami's original dialogue".

Don't miss the forest for the trees though.
This drama was all along brought to you by ResetEra and their satellites Hardcore Gaming 101 and Tiny Cartridge.
It wasn't, either, their first attack on the romhacking scene, nor attempts to infiltrate, subjugate and purge enemies of ResetEra off it.

Remember that as you follow future Ganbare Goemon projects that WILL be affected by this drama.

[Anonymous No.6173362]

incels btfo

>>6172971
>Goemon calls Baron a FAGGOT
Yeah but baron trump didn't call himself a faggot. Like use your head for a second.

[Anonymous No.6173363]

>>6173339
You wish, Kurt.

[Anonymous No.6173378]

>>6173362
Same "translator"? Your arguments are degrading in quality more and more.

>didn't call himself a faggot.
Irrelevant. You can ask Konami (and the LGBT Goemon director) why he used a sex-object term for an obviously self-deprecating NPC, as if that was the biggest of the game's worries.
Is "bad writing" (if it even is the case here) the responsibility of the translator too? Wrecking Designs is that way.

[Anonymous No.6173387]

>>6173359
>unnecessarily disrespecting a group of people
>wrote a non apology after being proven wrong
>keeps playing the victim card
>didn't expect a drama happening out of it
Nice victim play.

[Anonymous No.6173390]

>>6173378
>why he used a sex-object term for an obviously self-deprecating NPC
He would call himself a dickgirl in english.

[Anonymous No.6173410]

>>6173387
>unnecessarily disrespecting a group of people
who? konami? guess goemon is cancelled in the year of our lord 2020.
>wrote a non apology after being proven wrong
"proven wrong" by who? muh feelings?
the translation was always correct.
what arguments did this discussion entail?
coordinated harrassment on resetera?
accusing him of unsavory political alignments, and admitting in the same breath they're made up accusations but will still do it because fuck him?
DOXXING HIM AND CONTACTING HIS FRIENDS IRL SO THAT HE HAS NO TIME OUT FROM THIS EVEN OFFLINE?

he wrote an apology for causing offense and swore his hobby off forever.
make no mistake, the reason why this apology is inadequate is that it made the MOB LOOK BAD.

>keeps playing the victim card
you mean not dragging his psychologically wrecked ass to work on a FIX he has no technical know-how to pull off, and no interest since he, idk, just wants off this all?

>didn't expect a drama happening out of it
because no one raised a shitfit of it, not even the overrepresented trans community in the romhacking and emulation scene, and because it was manufactured outrage to punish a friend of an enemy of the ResetEra state for calling them cancer?

>>6173390
>dickgirl
imagine thinking this would save the translator.

[Anonymous No.6173419]

Also, some neat trivia.
Goemon games for the Super Famicom were rereleased on the Wii U Virtual Console.
While Nintendo usually edits out problematic content from such releases, they absolutely didn't bother with these ones.

Imagine being more stuck-up than fucking Nintendo.

[Anonymous No.6173452]

>>6173169
Yeah, I agree.

>>6173339
Keep coping.

>>6173362
The tranny calls himself a tranny in GG3. That's the joke, you seething moron.

>>6173419
kek

[Anonymous No.6173474]

>>6173410
>the translation was always correct.
It's localization. You can't translate wasei eigo. And not even the most accurate localization at that, because the real word implies two genders as one.
>coordinated harrassment on resetera?
Nobody from resetera harassed him, maybe except for hg101.
>accusing him of unsavory political alignments
DDS is a trump voter, and since republican is a right wing party, it's not an accusation but more like a fact.
>DOXXING HIM AND CONTACTING HIS FRIENDS IRL SO THAT HE HAS NO TIME OUT FROM THIS EVEN OFFLINE?
Any proof? And specifically, any proof resetera does that? Not the mob he angered?
>the reason why this apology is inadequate is that it made the MOB LOOK BAD
More like the reason it is inadequate is he didn't admit the translation was wrong and promise to change it.
>you mean not dragging his psychologically wrecked ass to work on a FIX he has no technical know-how to pull off, and no interest since he, idk, just wants off this all?
I'm talking about DDS.
>not even the overrepresented trans community in the romhacking and emulation scene
So you think it's alright to call black people n words as long as there are no blacks in your house or neighborhood?

[Anonymous No.6173510]

>>6173474
>It's localization.
It's translation.
>You can't translate wasei eigo.
You can. The space-time fabric doesn't collapse when you don't add memes and remove sentences and words from your japanese to english translation. Tom's entire body of work (no less than 50 translation projects) is a live testament to that.
>Nobody from resetera harassed him
Maybe READ the resetera thread? What little they confess there definitively counts.
Contacting his friends, "urging him" to "show sensitivity" and redo the apology and start work on a hack to purify fucking Goemon 3 of political incorrectness, IMMEDIATELY, with no regard to his safety, and disregard to how he feels tarred by a wrong accusation.
>accusing him
Tom?
>DDS is a trump voter
I guess it's no longer about newhalf implying two genders as one, but you implying TomDDS as one unholy chimera.
Also, DDS didn't post political content of any sort on twitter.
His personal life isn't relevant to whether he's allowed to do romhacking as a hobby.
His hatred of ResetEra is because they just had a pedo scandal, and tried to get RHDN shut 3 times at least.
... and that's DDS. How is Tom a right winger again?
> the reason it is inadequate
>he didn't admit the translation was wrong
It's correct, as HG101 himself said. He wanted it censored. Whole sentence removed. Fan translations don't usually censor.
>Any proof?
Tom statements, Resetera topic, some of THOSE friends commented on twitter regretting what they did?
>And specifically, any proof resetera does that?
Discoalucard, HG101 admin, launched this over the "resetera is cancer" line.
They came to the conclusion the team are nazis, only thing left is the justification to cancel them.
>Not the mob he angered?
Stop deflecting blame to other trans.
>and promise to change it.
Why should he be held accountable to Konami's writing again?
Why should he promise to change it if he just lost all drive to ever continue this hobby because it's destructive to his personal life?

[Anonymous No.6173521]

>>6173474
>I'm talking about DDS.
DDS hates ResetEra and has no reason to REWARD bullies who just caused the permanent cancellation of 60% of his planned, near-completion translation patches for the Goemon SNES series.
Moreover, someone else did that, was credited by TinyCartridge and HG101 as the sole patch author, and was cancelled anyways by rabid ResetEra assholes because he didn't manage the herculean feat of making Goemon 3 PC (FUCKING LMAO AT THE IDEA) so even he closed his twitter account.
>So you think it's alright to call black people n words as long as there are no blacks in your house or neighborhood?
Irrelevant. Masturbate to your own racist fantasies elsewhere, ResetEra faggot.

[Anonymous No.6173580]

>>6173521
>cancellation
All he had to do was changing literally just one sentence. Or at least admit his wrongdoing.
>Irrelevant
cope.

[Anonymous No.6173595]

>>6173580
All you have to do is delete your posts and then make a bunch of pro-life threads on every board, you insensitive jerk.

[Anonymous No.6173623]

>>6173474
>because the real word
"Newhalf" is a contrived word making fun of trannies. That's the fucking joke.

>newhalf implies two genders as one
No, it doesn't. That's the joke: the tranny refers to himself as a tranny. Stop forcing your (fucked up) ideology on the Japanese.

[Anonymous No.6173647]

>>6173623
Ah yes, I forgot that Japan has no gay or trans people.

The actual etymology of newhalf is the idea that their top half, i.e. their chest and ostensibly their face, is new, but their bottom half, i.e. their dick, isn't.

The best translation would be "I have a dick. Should I tell my boyfriend?"

[Anonymous No.6173650]

>>6173359
>He actually deactivated his twitter too after HE TOO was attacked over the game's contents.

Who was it?

[Anonymous No.6173665]

>>6173510
Don't get into massive post arguments with line by line green texting with someone who's trolling or arguing in bad faith

[Anonymous No.6173707]

>>6173650
He's talking about Tom, but that oh-poor-me essay he posted before deleting everything was a fucking lie, because he was responding constructively with someone that offered to help him find a new line that's accurate without being offensive.

[Anonymous No.6173719]

>>6173707
I'm not asking about tom, and nothing you posted logically follows, don't reply to me again

[Anonymous No.6173793]

>>6173580
There was no wrongdoing

[Anonymous No.6173821]

crazy how you guys are still talking about this
there's a line change hack if you really don't like the original gag, but keep in mind these types of jokes were the norm back then and socially acceptable, especially in japan.

be thankful casual twitter shitters haven't looked into ebisumaru yet

[Anonymous No.6173847]

>>6173647
>nooooo you can't make fun of someone if they live in your country!!!!!!!
But it's a joke at their expense...made by Japanese people...at other Japanese people... Try coping?

>The best translation would be "I have a dick. Should I tell my boyfriend?"
So now you're conceding this is a joke at the expense of transvestites? There is a certain number on your phone (between 7 and 9) that you should press ASAP.

[Anonymous No.6173850]

>>6173719
Hi. Guess who this is, replying to you?

[Anonymous No.6173851]

>>6173793
YOU FUCKING ALT-RIGHT SCUMFUCK!

[Anonymous No.6173875]

>>6173821
Just wait for the mental gymnastics.
>he's the original trans character, don't laugh at him!

[Anonymous No.6173990]

>>6173650
Not Tom, wednesday, who changed "tranny" to "trans" and got attacked because he didn't change everything else "wrong" with the game.
He too got attacked and deactivated his twitter for a while because he was getting dogpiled.
Then he gets some more hate because Tiny Cartridge misattributed the whole project to HIM, as the sole contributor, so he got misdirected hate for being one of the harassers (there's nothing wrong with censoring the game on your own and offering it as an option, but some were USING his patch to REPLACE the original and attack the translators, and he was still getting hate from all sides.)
Mind you, what happened to wednesday (futile attempts to fix Goemon not even konami USA bothered with) was exactly the kind of thing kurt and resetera planned for Tom.

>>6173665
You're correct, I apologize for that.
I'm shook that HG101 is STILL defending what happened to this day, so Poe's law. In fact I was discussing this with friends in private who happen to be trans who are equally as horrified with the situation, and correctly blame Konami for this.
But that's still feeding the troll so no need for that.

[Anonymous No.6173995]

>>6173875
he'll join metroid and toads
>ebisumaru can crawl
>yae and sasuke's colors say trans rights
>4th character in akokingu has a chin, so trans, but ugly, so transphobia
>if you hate shinsedai you're a bigot
>PLAY GBA SHINSEDAI

[Anonymous No.6174004]

>>6170712
Bullshit censorship.

[Anonymous No.6174035]

>>6174004
It's not censorship. It's a patch of a patch you don't have to install and the original release is still on its premiere host

[Anonymous No.6174038]

>>6174035
>It's not censorship. It's censorship.
You leftists and your doublespeak are so cute.

[Anonymous No.6174040]

>>6174035
All translations are censorship.

[Anonymous No.6174048]

>>6174038
I liked you better when you were larping as the resetard

[Anonymous No.6174057]

>>6174035
It's censoring both the original release and the translation (since both say the same thing).

>>6174040
Based attention-seeking weeb.

[Anonymous No.6174170]

>>6173510
>The space-time fabric doesn't collapse when you don't add memes and remove sentences and words from your japanese to english translation.
Still can't prove how tranny implies 2 genders in one person?? Cope.
>Maybe READ the resetera thread?
I did?
>Contacting his friends, "urging him" to "show sensitivity" and redo the apology and start work on a hack to purify fucking Goemon 3 of political incorrectness, IMMEDIATELY, with no regard to his safety, and disregard to how he feels tarred by a wrong accusation.
So its all based on assumptions that they weren't nice to Tom? Oh and there were like 1-3 people from resetera who have DM'd Tom based on that thread. Keep coping.
>but you implying TomDDS as one unholy chimera.
I'm not, I'm implying that DDS is the one who can change the dialogue because he's the coder.
>It's correct, as HG101 himself said
No, he never said so. He said its a shitty word to translate as.
>Tom statements, Resetera topic, some of THOSE friends commented on twitter regretting what they did?
Regretting for doxing?
>Discoalucard, HG101 admin, launched this over the "resetera is cancer" line
So literally just one person, whom many in resetera even disagreed with?
>Stop deflecting blame to other trans.
No I'm saying that because DDS blocked everyone from resetera even before this scandal so there's little evidence this is resetera's doings.
>Why should he be held accountable to Konami's writing again?
Because konami didn't write tranny?

[Anonymous No.6174197]

>>6173990
Seriously, it never stops until the whole translation gets taken down. That's why it should never have been "ammended" in the first place.

It's amazing how people still don't get this.

[Anonymous No.6174217]

>>6174197
Why hasn't the translation been taken down yet?

[Anonymous No.6174230]

>>6174217
"Until" usually suggests that there's still time.

[Anonymous No.6174235]

>>6174230
I know. I want to know what we can do to make it happen.

[Anonymous No.6174254]

>>6174235
Why does it need to be taken down? There's about three different fix patches available. (Which kind of proves everyone else's point about the original translation).

[Anonymous No.6174282]

>>6174254
This series shouldn't get so much attention from casuals. It's better if it's not available to them.

[Anonymous No.6174348]

>>6174217
ok real answer here: because resetera sent someone to do so to the RHDN forums, and got a universal push back by the actual community because hoo boy, resetera already has a list of problematic fan translations to take down over game content.

Many big name translators and programmers stood behind Tom, even normally sjw ones, because they would be next on the chopping block once they get judged for game contents, or don't censor games enough for resetera's liking.
Contrary to what you'd hear from game journalists, it's a very welcoming and open hobby, and this is exactly the kind of gatekeeping that would stifle it.

RHDN admin once caved to ResetEra and removed a political hack rule (established because someone from tumblr wanted to get nintendo to shut the whole website over offensive romhacks), but this reaction by the scene may be the moderating push needed for him not to go off the deep end to please resetera. But make no mistake, they WILL try one or two years later.

[Anonymous No.6174364]

>>6174282
The original patch has been downloaded nearly 5000 times, I doubt that many normies are going to be playing this game.

The way that Hardcore Gaming idiot was reacting, you'd think that it was a retail release on the switch or something.

[Anonymous No.6174367]

>>6164292
Nighwolve is probably only "supporting" Tom in order to shit on Kurt Kalata and HG101, which is one of the millions of things he has a beef with. See also: XSEED, NIS America, Hillary Clinton, PCEngineFX

[Anonymous No.6174537]

>>6162184
>The Goemon 2 and 3 translation news in romhacking.net were deleted

[Anonymous No.6174782]

so much ado about nothing
goemon games are good games; play them

[Anonymous No.6174795]

What a bunch stupid fucking drama, all that should have happened at most was a fan patch for the original patch, instead everyone is a fucking drama queen about stupid shit because they're fucking bored.

[Anonymous No.6174879]

>>6173359
and SNES Central

[Anonymous No.6174889]

>>6174879
>got cancelled over insisting the manjis in the game should've been removed
good riddance

[Anonymous No.6174890]

>>6174537
At least the translations aren't (yet).

[Anonymous No.6174994]

updated GG2 patch released

[Anonymous No.6175002]

>>6168310
>I’m trans
That isn't correct though. People say here "Well someone would never say "I'm really a tranny" but you're missing the point. Even if Newhalf isn't as offensive as here, it is still a slur and is used in a fetishy way by some trans Japanese online as its a common porn term but your average self respecting Japanese transgender is not going to say "I'm really a Newhalf" either. It's a fucking gag. It's a gag line and that is why they said it like that to begin with and so "I'm really a tranny" conveys that its a gag line better than playing it in a straight way like "I'm really transgender" or something

[Anonymous No.6175019]

>>6168961
Fuck off back to your hugbox. They were involved, go read the thread where they are gushing about how happy they are all they can finally play it until a few pages in someone posted a screencap of the tranny line and did a total 180 and started talking about how horrible Tom was and how it should be pulled from RHDN. ResetEra trannys have absolutely been involved.

[Anonymous No.6175030]

>>6173851
Dilate tranny

[Anonymous No.6175112]

>>6175002
Ok so I guess you would’ve cared.

[Anonymous No.6175207]

Am I retarded for being stuck in the mechanical tower with no keys or is there some bullshit and I should youtube it?

[Anonymous No.6175280]

>>6175112
I mean it's just correct. You want accuracy or ass patting?

[Anonymous No.6175369]

>theres a ps2 goemon game
holy fuck bros.. and working design was considering picking it up but basedny fucked it. hopefully this one gets translated someday too

[Anonymous No.6175372]

>>6175369
its shit.

[Anonymous No.6175395]

[Anonymous No.6175408]

Is there anyway to get in touch with DDS other than Twitter? Why can't he tell us what's going to happen with Tom's translation of GG4?

[Anonymous No.6175410]

>>6175395
>that boss where you have to solve a match face puzzle but can be stuck with a literally unsolvable pattern, resulting in a game over (and there are no continues/passwords/etc)
Worst Goemon game.

[Anonymous No.6175428]

>>6173623
>That's the fucking joke.
I thought the joke was that this woman is actually a man, not that they use a slur.

This goes to show that the problem never was "muh accurate translation", but rather "muh funny tranny word".

[Anonymous No.6175435]

>>6175428
No dumbass the joke was both. The fact they are a man and the way it was said are both part of the gag. As that anon said, that's the joke. So playing it straight and PC with "I'm really transgender" is retarded

[Anonymous No.6175439]

>>6173359
>He actually deactivated his twitter too after HE TOO was attacked over the game's contents.
Do you know how I know you are bullshitting?
>https://twitter.com/MrWednesdays
The account is still up and running.
>also accused by twitter trannies of transphobia
No such thing happened. Only one user said he should have changed the line, but never accused him of transphobia or anything close like that. It was a suggestion.
>However as other people have pointed out you removed the slur, but left then entrapment bit.
There's no mention of wednesday on ResetEra at all to boot

[Anonymous No.6175440]

>>6175435
>are both part of the gag
How? How do you know that's the gag? There's nothing humorous about "newhalf" unless you acknowledge "half" is humorous by itself (a term for people of mixed ancestry).

[Anonymous No.6175441]

The replies on this board provides more than enough proof that Tom was right in the first place that the translation should stay as it is.

The argument is that the word is offensive isn't really an argument.

[Anonymous No.6175443]

>>6175439
His deactivation was temporary, it's not a permanent thing unless you want it to be. It was deactivated and has just gone back up

[Anonymous No.6175447]

>>6175440
Comedians who do bits about trannys use Newhalf and its also used as a fetish term. It is saying the person is half their old gender, the "old half", and half their new gender, the Newhalf. It is a slur, it just isn't as offensive as tranny in the west has just become in recent years. It still would be considered a somewhat edgy term there.

[Anonymous No.6175460]

>>6173521
They chose to cancel their own projects, ResetEra just had opinions on the internet and expressed them how people on the internet express opinions now
People have bad opinions online they express with the people they're expressing to choosing to take it constructively all the time, choosing to take the unproductive route of throwing your work away to spite others is not the fault of the people you're attempting to spite, it's your own fault
Maybe Tom should consider being the bigger man in the room instead of taking his ball and going home like a child

[Anonymous No.6175470]

>>6173521
DDS hasn't even said anything about the translation patches being canceled. In fact, he's refusing to even comment on them in the first place

[Anonymous No.6175514]

>all those Resetera and Hardcore Gaming 101 faggots here thinking they have any kind of argument about how they were right to harass a translator out of the scene.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Pic related, the romhack community answer was amazing.

Also here what Tom was working, helping or about to start working on it:

>Zill 'O Zill
>Far East of Eden 1
>Far East of Eden 2
>Ganbare Goemon 4
>Ganbare Goemon Yukihime no Emaki (1 SNES)
>Ganbare Goemon Shin Sedai
>Ganbare Goemon Uchuukaizoku Akokingu
>Ganbare Goemon Hoshizora Dynamite
>Yuusha Shisu (Vita, FEoE director)
>Undisclosed SMT title

But now instead we have resetera trannies here trying to argue about a free translation, much better isn't?

[Anonymous No.6175715]

>>6175514
IIRC, he was working on Megami Tensei II with Pennywise, as well.

[Anonymous No.6175720]

>>6174367
Looking through his insane ramblings, apparently Tom was going to help him with a translation project. It's still probably self-serving bitching (NW is probably just mad his project might be halted), but still.

[Anonymous No.6175721]

I died on the mechanical tower boss, and it took me back to my last save point and I lost the last 80% of progress on the whole dungeon. I don't even think I got a game over screen.

What the fuck went wrong?

[Anonymous No.6175725]

>>6175721
git gud

[Anonymous No.6175735]

>>6175514
>Far East of Eden 1
>Far East of Eden 2
They're still coming someday, right?

[Anonymous No.6175739]

>>6175735
hahaha.

[Anonymous No.6175757]

>>6175735

[Anonymous No.6175835]

>>6175720
There's someone alive that actually wants to work with that loon in 2020?! Nope. I don't believe it.

[Anonymous No.6176042]

>>6175440
That's an etymological fallacy. Newhalf is a slur, emphasising the gag. Again, it's a joke at transvestites' expense. Why WOULDN'T it, then, use a word equivalent to "transvestite" idiot? You must cope.

[Anonymous No.6176045]

>>6176042
*"transvestite idiot"?

[Anonymous No.6176385]

[Anonymous No.6176407]

[Anonymous No.6176409]

[Anonymous No.6176412]

>>6175835
He's the go-to authority on PC Engine romhacking.
Tom insisted on the original Far East of Eden versions.
>>6175514
ResetEra started monitoring that thread, so the discussion died for a while.
The way they raged about the overwhelming response against them back on their mother base was priceless.
Only makes it more sad they took their frustrations even harder on Tom because he was the weaker chain with open DM and some massive insecurities they exploited to break him.

Here's all parties that just eroded their social capital in the romhacking and emulation community with this shitshow:

>ResetEra
>Hardcore Gaming 101 (Discoalucard / Kurt Kalata)
>Tiny Cartridge
>SNES Central
>The Cutting Room Floor

>>6175460
Here's your (You).

[Anonymous No.6176417]

>>6176409
Sucks this one won't be released over this because it's the least import friendly.
Omitsu encounter, Sasuke boss, BDSM Club grocery list...

>>6175395
That game is even more cancerous than ResetEra.

[Anonymous No.6176436]

>>6173356
>Why is the file size for 3 so much bigger than the unpatched ROM
No idea.
>and what does [n] mean?
That the name of the rom is changed, is from the Maybe-Intro naming convention for hacks and translations.
>[n] for when the title of the hacked/translated game is different than its original title.
https://gbatemp.net/threads/maybe-intro.330363/

[Anonymous No.6176440]

>>6175735
I hope not.

[Anonymous No.6176443]

>>6166058
http://www.romhacking.net/translations/5369/
>This IPS patch modifies a single line for those who are sensitive to Konami’s original dialog.
Holy shit.

[Anonymous No.6176480]

>>6169621
>Who, besides you, decided that?
The romhacking community.
DDS already had to apologize because he was posting about the translation without mention Tom on Twitter and this gave the impression that it was all his work, all the Goemon translations almost went tits up before release, but DDS contact him, apologized and fixed mentions and credits.
If you have no idea about how the community work why post inane shit like a spastic retard?

[Anonymous No.6176484]

>>6169375
Tom started tweeting back on the 29th, and as soon as this happened and people started to show support he was again harassed and attacked, he then delete all the posts he made that day, left only the apologize letter and changed his profile picture for some patch of brown grass on the ground and his bio read: depressed, then on the 31th he deleted his account.

[Anonymous No.6176495]

>>6176480
>DDS already had to apologize because he was posting about the translation without mention Tom on Twitter

No, that apology was unrelated to this whole mess, and was to deescalate a situation with Avicendrya.

Avi was the previous translator for Ganbare Goemon 2 who had full input on the text and graphics of GG2, but was somehow offended Tom and based french graphics guy were doing the rest of the series. Or how his work is part of that multi-game release. Or whatever.
Once Avi was starting to nitpick about HIS design of "Go for it" used in the other translations, how it was like "knifes tearing his skin" and "stealing his work", his work was immediately replaced in Ganbare Goemon 2, and title screens for GG3 and GG4 redone to avoid that "Go For it" part, and so that the translations could release without HIS baggage.

Even before this, the projects didn't use any prior romhacking work by Aeon Genesis (GG2) or a certain other lolcow (GG3, GG4)

Tom and based french guy had no objections to the situation.

That's efficiency. When someone gives you too many conditions to use his work extending beyond his own project, you cut them off, it's not about treating it as "your" project, but trying to get things done at all. DDS was being nice and classy to Avi publicly.

Alas, it was all for naught because ResetEra cancelled it all anyways.

[Anonymous No.6176504]

Got the sequence of events wrong too, Avi started nitpicking about GG3 and GG4 AFTER his public meltdown begun, not before. It wasn't about his work being reused.

His objection was being associated with another translator for other games in the series, as a sign of lack of trust. He would have rather they have remained untranslated by DDS until HE deigned to translate them, while saying publicly he won't do it before, and not showing even enough resolution to get his own game done.

[Anonymous No.6176508]

>>6176443
So whats the "slur"?

[Anonymous No.6176513]

>>6176495
>>6176504
Thanks for the clarification anon.
This only helped to showcase even further how much of a cluster fuck this community can be sometimes, while those retards keep posting, "JuST ReLEaSe AnYwAY" without a clue of how things work or even thinking that everyone is some kind of super hacker that can do everything alone and give a middle finger to the other community members.

[Anonymous No.6176524]

>>6176513
>how much of a cluster fuck this community can be sometimes
It's honestly not that bad, and the humanity shown here is heartwarming.
You just gotta avoid obvious nutcases and drama queens.

>"JuST ReLEaSe AnYwAY"
one of the most offensive things about this is how someone posted a retirement announcement and a certain site wants that member dragged back to work on something he hate, that he can't pull off on his own anyways, that others already did but they want HIM to do it, and replace his previous work for their own enjoyment then they announce every intent to STILL continue to tar his reputation down the ground and harass him.

How does that work? People do things because there's a motivation, a light at the end of the tunnel. This is downright evil and sociopathic, somehow mixed with some of the worst tendancies of regular forum entitlement.

[Anonymous No.6176575]

>>6176409

[Anonymous No.6176634]

>>6176508
The character calls himself a pejorative term for trannies, "newhalf", in the original Japanese dialogue and in the unedited translation.

[Anonymous No.6176635]

>>6166058
He got shitted anyways by rampaging resetera users because "it's still offensive!"

[Anonymous No.6176648]

>>6176635
That is great, holy shit. (Japanese-language) Goemon is an anti-trans symbol confirmed.

[Anonymous No.6176649]

>>6176635
Link to the lulz, please?

[Anonymous No.6176651]

>>6176635
>>6176634
Why fuck does REEEEsetera even care anyway? Doesn't their overwhelming retarded moral crusade not extend to stealing games (because you wouldn't download a car, would you?). Or do they not even give a shit and are getting mad because something they didn't even know existed is being translated by someone they also probably didn't know existed either?

[Anonymous No.6176658]

>>6176651
They seek control over others, since they have completely abandoned controlling themselves. The more centralized, the better.

[Anonymous No.6176706]

>>6176651
Resetera doesn't care. The posts claiming to have harassed him and his friends are all throwaway accounts with 2-3 posts that were made in January.

>>6176648
This is the end goal. It's an op by /pol/ to turn Goemon into a hate symbol the way Pepe and the OK hand sign were.

[Anonymous No.6176708]

>>6176706
Become part of the 42%.

[Anonymous No.6176709]

>>6176708
Nobody cares. Most of us fled /vr/ to avoid this kind of culture war bullshit.

[Anonymous No.6176713]

>>6176706
Yes, /pol/ is behind all that makes you comfortable, tranny.

[Anonymous No.6176715]

>>6176713
*uncomfortable lol

[Anonymous No.6176716]

>>6176709
>>6176713
You mean trannies tried to stop a perfectly normal game from coming out for no reason other than to give them something to do while dilating?

Gosh, that sounds really bad! Trannies ruin anything they touch, huh?

Well, /vr/, we learned a good lesson: If you see a tranny, if you even suspect a tranny, and they're doing anything besides killing themselves, set 'em straight and tell 'em the only thing a disgusting freak mutant man is good for!

[Anonymous No.6176718]

>>6176709
I see. Maybe you should stop posting and engaging with said culture war and stay on your echo chamber, then.

[Anonymous No.6176720]

>>6176716
I like the way you think, anon. Trannies did this, and no one else, so let's all remember: All trannies must kill themselves! Why settle for 42% when we can have 100% by our own hands?

[Anonymous No.6176721]

>>6176716
Do dilate, though.

[Anonymous No.6176723]

>>6176721
Kill yourself, tranny.

[Anonymous No.6176728]

>>6176706
>This is the end goal. It's an op by /pol/ to turn Goemon into a hate symbol the way Pepe and the OK hand sign were.
1. Do you have any proof that /pol/ had anything to do with this? Or are you just coping because you know people here are responding to the fascistic words and actions of HG101 and Resetera?
2. Again, Konami (ie, non-white people) is at "fault" for the tranny gag, not rom translators. This was made explicitly clear when Resetera continued to rage even after the dialogue was slightly changed (see here >>6176635).

[Anonymous No.6176734]

>>6176723
>no u!
This isn't Twitter, faggot.

[Anonymous No.6176739]

>>6176728
I know /vr/ doesn't give two sloppy shits about culture war bullshit, and that the prevailing narrative has changed from "Resetera did this" to "Trannies did this," and the only people that talk about it are gamergate-adjacent like KotakuInAction and OneAngryGamer.

[Anonymous No.6176751]

>>6176739
>duhhhh STOP SAYING THE PEOPLE THAT DID IT DID IT
>all the most reliable subreddits and blogs are GAMERGATE!!!
>Mmmm mmmm delicious snoy

[Anonymous No.6176756]

>>6176739
What's wrong with gamergate? I wish there was RETROGATE!

[Anonymous No.6176768]

>>6176739
Why didn't you answer my question? Where is your proof that /pol/ was involved with anything about this (such as "forcing Kurt Kalata's hand" or whatever your retarded conspiracy theory may be)?

[Anonymous No.6176789]

>>6176768
I don't have proof. I just think something smells about this whole mess, and I know /pol/ already did this to /v/ and /co/ in 2014 and 2017, so I don't want to see it happen to /vr/.

[Anonymous No.6176794]

>>6176789
>I don't have proof
>But I know that other things I also don't have proof for happened
Do you think you might actually be the bad guy here, liar?

[Anonymous No.6176797]

>>6176789
Anon, the problem with trannies is that accepting gay people means dealing with the fact that they fuck guys. They don't want you to suck dick, they just want to suck dick in peace. Trannies make you change YOUR behavior to suit their psychotic delusions. They're somehow gayer than gay people. Just accept that this is what's happening. /vr/ is already gone. But it's okay, because it was sacrificed to ignite the pyre that trannies will burn at.

[Anonymous No.6176803]

>>6176794
Gamergate and Comicsgate are known /pol/ ops, they'll even admit they did it. Why are you so obsessed with trannies? I don't like them either but outside of speedrun cancer, /vr/ doesn't even have trannies.

[Anonymous No.6176809]

>>6176803
>Gamergate and Comicsgate are known /pol/ ops, they'll even admit they did it.
Maybe in your headcanon, but you need evidence if you want to prove this happened in reality.
>Why are you so obsessed with trannies?
Strange projection, since you brought this up with your "anti-tranny /pol/ op" conspiracy theory.

[Anonymous No.6176812]

>>6176809
You showed up talking about tranny this, tranny that, tranny tranny tranny. I'm just telling you to fuck off. Bother /vg/ with this shit or something.

[Anonymous No.6176825]

>>6176812
I'm not every poster in this thread, anon, sorry to disappoint you. Also, again, you brought up how obsessed you are with /pol/ and trannies and then tried to cover your pathetic lying ass by saying "I-I'm not obsessed...YOU ARE!"

[Anonymous No.6176829]

>>6176825
>>6176812
>You see, it is very logical that I am in fact right and you are a piece of shit liar that poops out of your mangina.
>W-WELL YOU'RE FROM /POL/
Girls, girls, you're both pretty. Now get out.

[Anonymous No.6176832]

What does any of this have to do with Goemon?

[Anonymous No.6176835]

are there any other rad action games than goemon 3 and mega man x that have equippable mech suits in them that I should know of?

[Anonymous No.6176859]

>>6176829
Even though that was half directed towards me, I kek'd. Well said, anon.

>>6176832
The posts closer to the top of the thread, mostly, should be more towards your liking, my friend.

>>6176835
GG2 (SNES) and X2-4 are the only other ones that come to mind, but there are definitely more. Yoshi in SMW is sort of one, too.

[Anonymous No.6176887]

Calling a tranny a tranny is now considered offensive? I have to use the full word transexual and that's not offensive or what?

[Anonymous No.6176903]

>>6176887
>Transexual
Its transgender now, transexual implies objectivication and possibly unwanted sexualisation of transgender individuals.

[Anonymous No.6176912]

>>6176887
Trans as an adjective, trans people to refer to them in general. Transgender is seen as clunky and overly-formal (think "african-american" vs "black people") and anything else is varying levels of offensive.

Source: Use VRchat a lot and have to know this because every other person on that stupid game is trans.

>>6176859
I think his point was that we've gone off-topic.

[Anonymous No.6176929]

>>6176912
Fuck it, not like I'll have anywhere else safe to ask. Is transgender an adjective or a noun? I've heard it both ways. Do you still use MTF and FTM?

[Anonymous No.6176943]

>>6176929
Transgender is an adjective. Using it as a noun ("I think transgenders should kill themselves") pisses them off. I think they want trans woman (if they want to be a woman) and trans man (if they want to be a man) and "assigned at birth" to talk about their actual gender. Some of them get really mad about whether there's a space or not (transwoman vs. trans woman), no fucking clue what that's about.

[Anonymous No.6177014]

>>6176835
For rides in general, Kirby's Dreamland 2 and 3, Kirby Planet Robobot, Metal Slug, Blazing Chrome.

[Anonymous No.6177023]

>>6176903
>>6176912
Those were rhetorical questions, you salivating mongs.

[Anonymous No.6177029]

>a game which you'd like to see fan translated
>even though it would surely cause a sjw shitstorm like goemon 3 did
what's her name, /vr/?

[Anonymous No.6177068]

>>6176739
Trannies can get unhinged sometimes.

But to their credit, trannies in the romhacking and emulation community DIDN'T initially care about this, or shrugged it off as "eh, it's goemon", and unhinged trannies didn' care because the game was too niche.
Even resetera trannies knew it was an "offensive problematic series for yesteryear".

It all started with a specific event - the insistent accusation by a certain forum AND a certain person that the translator (Tom, not DDS) is 1) alt-right 2) made up the "offensive content" in muh christian (?) game goemon.
The proof the translator (Tom) is "alt_right" was...
>discoalucard: DDS put "resetera is cancer in his twitter bio
>discoalucard: which is an alt right meme

Just like resetera is stealing leaks from imageboards, attributing their own harassment to imageboards, and now attributing their horrendous reputation (secret pedophile discord communities) is because they're the only lefties left in a post-apocalyptic orange tang ocean...
it's not beyond them to actually HELP /pol/ ACCUSE TRANNIES OF CAUSING this bout of harassment.
Look at @HG_101 on twitter and his idea of damage control and obsession about what /vr/ (yes) and random youtubers say about this, and go back and tell me he's not the exact kind of shitstain who wouldn't try this right here.

[Anonymous No.6177073]

>>6176835
Dahna, Assault Suit Valken, Metal Warrior, Front Mission Gun Hazard.

[Anonymous No.6177075]

>>6177029
Holy hell is Power Pro "problematic" too?
Only thing remotely close is the dummied GBA dating sim part right?

[Anonymous No.6177101]

>>6177068
It could be that it's bullshit. I'm glad you can admit it was only a particular place and not blame it on all trans people forever. I think I just have PTSD from seeing /v/ and /co/ both ruined and don't want it to happen here.

[Anonymous No.6177183]

>>6177075
>pawapoke 1's canon ending is the protag getting forced to marry a creepy ~30 years old stalker
>one of the recurring coaches is a gay man who forces himself on the protagonist if befriended enough, complete with unlockable epilogue scenes of the protagonist looking miserable around him
>the second scenario in pawapoke 6 is set on a death labor camp ruled by nazi knockoffs
and likely some more stuff i'm not aware of. the games in general seem a bit edgy, as the CERO A age rating is treated like a meme by the japanese fans.

[Anonymous No.6177298]

>>6177183
>death labor camp ruled by nazi knockoffs
He has to change that, it would be offensive to my identity if nazis were portrayed as villains. We'll raid him if he doesn't. If he gets chased out of the translation community? Good.

[Anonymous No.6177309]

>>6176409

[Anonymous No.6177312]

>>6177309
That's a good webum anon why did you delete the last time?

[Anonymous No.6177319]

>Resetera

[Anonymous No.6177337]

>>6177319
Yeah, can't see how anybody can defend that place. It's like a cult.

[Anonymous No.6177503]

>>6177309
looks glorious beta tester-kun

[Anonymous No.6177601]

>non-general hits bumplimit on /vr/
based goemon

[Anonymous No.6178263]

[Anonymous No.6178271]

>>6176912
I think you might have brain damage or have sub-80 IQ.

[Anonymous No.6178285]

>>6177101
>I think have PTSD
Oh fuck, is this Tumblr or 4chan?

[Anonymous No.6178303]

>>6177298
Yet you still have failed to show any evidence that /pol/ has raided people like Resetera objectively has, desperate LARPing faggot.

[Anonymous No.6178308]

>>6178263

[Anonymous No.6178815]

>>6177309
Please release the goods some day if based DDS and Tom don't get around to doing it on their terms. Tom did a really good job with these and his job doesn't deserve to be flushed down the toilet because ResetEra hates him, the project, and the series.

[Anonymous No.6179085]

Why do RetardEra faggots and HG101 cocksuckers think they belong here?
Go step into traffic you massive cocksucking faggots.

[Anonymous No.6179108]

>>6179085
PedoEra once complained that /vr/ is welcoming but not enough to their tastes, that there are "too many anime avatars and pepes", treat it as their free content source for leaks and scoops, and two days ago HG101 and friends are complaining about how /vr/ will be unusable for them for the next month.

When you see the kind of content they contribute back here, and how they eventually acted on that problematic Goemon series:

>>/vr/thread/S4814847

it should be better if /vr/ was permanently unusable for them.
Closet pedos and racists and the mentally ill have to try their homework and better their personalities, not try and transform more of the world to extensions of their echo chambers that validate their worst tendancies.

[Anonymous No.6179412]

>>6173006
desu, I think "I wasn't always a girl" has exactly the kind of light-heartedness that was present in the original Japanese line, and makes it an excellent translation.

[Anonymous No.6179436]

>>6179412
nice try

[Anonymous No.6179450]

>>6179436
Well, it's my opinion. What more can I say?

The original Japanese apparently consists of two (?) lines, and I've only seen one of them, so make what you will of that.

[Anonymous No.6179454]

>>6179412
>>6179450
>hasn't read the original lines
>feels the need to voice an opinion
fuck off.

[Anonymous No.6179463]

>>6179454
Then do the rest of the thread a favour and give us the original lines. I've only seen one.