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ANCIENT CHINESE SECRET Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 14:08:00 No.6137421 [Reply] [Original]

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>6132428

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR

Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4

Launchers for Build Engine games
http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
https://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 14:09:02 No.6137424

=== NEWS ===

[1-14] Anon shares the maps for the now abandoned /vr/ Heretic Project
https://archive.org/details/vrheretic

[1-14] New Video, Doom add-on guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISSTfix7-iA&feature=youtu.be

[1-14] New Doom Eternal Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkklG9MA0vM

[1-14] Bethesda interviews Romero
https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/en/article/1vt4DnYWjIz6T8KbegBs8G/nods-to-mods-interview-john-romero

[1-13] Port of prBoom to GBA
https://github.com/doomhack/GBADoom

[1-11] Sunder update adds in MAP18
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/46002-sunder-map18-emerges/

[1-8] Death Wish for Blood is up to version 1.6.10
https://www.moddb.com/mods/death-wish-for-blood/downloads/death-wish-160-updated-10-31-19

[1-7] New Slayers Testament build is released
https://youtu.be/KSco01sUzeo
Don't bother with the discord link, have the direct links here:
>testament
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12l7nM_jgwURCHO5aiTiQgHtcu1VbnU2g/view?usp=sharing
>music
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rLA4M64ZWBliyOPSHZ0_td0LgHwghl9G/view?usp=sharing
>demo patch
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_qser-2BggAdcy1WCw-SrXs9PWm2Xd6c/view?usp=sharing

[1-6] GZDoom now updated to 4.3.1
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=66882&p=1130828

[1-5] 'Stickguy in Doom'
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=66877

[1-4] 'January Jump Jam' for Quake ongoing, making maps using the jump mod
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61803

[12-31] BuildGDX is up to v1.06
https://m210.duke4.net/

[12-31] TerminusEst13's Booster Mod released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKCSNSkxd_o

[12-31] Finnish Quake Map Jam, Menetettyjen Valtakunta (Realm of the Lost) released
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/smej_1.0.html

[12-29] Wastewater Station, a new Quake 2 map, is finally released!
variableone.com/maps/newcrash.zip (1.5mb)
https://twitter.com/Colonthreee/status/1211331998968619008

=== PREVIOUS ===

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>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 14:12:52 No.6137434 whooo wanttu some wang?

Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 14:25:32 No.6137454
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>Eviternity
>BTSX
>Ancient Aliens
I didn't start playing custom wads until a couple years ago. Shit like this with 11/10 art design and larger levels make me rock hard. Any other wads match this kind of quality but are a bit older? I've heard good things about the Scythe, Deus Vult, and Epic series but haven't played them myself.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 14:25:36 No.6137456 File: 351 KB, 1280x871, 1558653552911.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You want wash wang, or watch Wang wash wang?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 14:28:27 No.6137460 >>6137454 Memento Mori is ancient and holds up though it has issues on modern source ports like GZDoom. Scythe II is better and very different from the original Scythe so I recommend that over the first.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 14:30:21 No.6137462 PAIN ELEMENTAL BAD CACODEMON GOOD

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 14:30:23 No.6137463 >>6137460 Cool. Do either of those wads change up guns? I like to use smooth weapons mods for prboom+

Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 14:32:40 No.6137465

>>6137463
No they don't, you should be fine with smooth weapons or whatever else you want to add.
Another fun wad is the Japanese Community Project. The levels vary greatly in quality and difficulty but overall it's super solid and gives you a taste of what DOOM wadding is like in other parts of the world.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 14:34:39 No.6137469 File: 833 KB, 2303x1080, IMG_20200116_163302.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 14:43:20 No.6137478 File: 914 KB, 1200x675, 100k.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Has anyone been man enough to beat 100k revenants?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 14:47:35 No.6137483 >>6137463 Speaking of, is Smooth Weapon compatible with Minor Sprite fix? I'm trying to set up PrBoom on Delta Touch and figuring out what else I can add outside of the Sprite fix

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 14:48:58 No.6137489 File: 26 KB, 478x600, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6137421 Posting my potential updates for my mod. feedback is appreciated.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 14:52:24 No.6137492 >>6137483 Sound caulking is another popular vanilla+ type wad that I always slap on whenever I can. It's very subtle but nice. DOOM already has good sound design so it doesn't change a whole lot.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 14:57:19 No.6137498 >>6137478 the creator

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 15:04:41 No.6137508 >>6137492 Whats the difference between the 3 verion? PC, PSX and Vanilla?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 15:07:05 No.6137514 >>6137508 iirc PC DOOM flavor uses the original sound samples, that's the one I use anyway. The other two are just variants of PSX DOOM sounds.

Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 15:07:31 No.6137515

Been in these threads for some time now and never actually replayed Doom, was always more of a fan of Build games and Thief and only wanting some mods.

But I must say Doom 1 holds up, something very nostalgic and special about the first game compared to 2.
Went as smoothly as Quake 1.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 15:11:12 No.6137528 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDCQY6nHsbI

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 15:18:43 No.6137539 >>6137421 Why was the Heretic mapping project abandoned, anyway? Also, How about a Thief or Build game mapping project someday?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 15:19:19 No.6137541 Anyone see this yet? https://www.doomretro.com/ I hate the name since all the added features and "fixes" aren't retro but it looks interesting if you're the type to play with said addons enabled anyway.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 15:23:31 No.6137548 >>6137539 Build mapping intimidates me.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 15:26:55 No.6137556 >>6137539 >Why was the Heretic mapping project abandoned, anyway? Who knows. Some stupid reason I'm sure.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 15:28:03 No.6137557 File: 260 KB, 500x500, 1569078236629.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6137539 BUMP please.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 15:32:15 No.6137562 Do you guys think id's upcoming official DOOM 64 port will be better than DOOM 64 EX? I suspect it's going to be a shitshow due to Bethesda meddling like always but I am hopeful.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 15:39:42 No.6137568 >>6137492 Does Caulking work alongside the high res sounds?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 15:41:27 No.6137572 >>6137469 That's not Doom3guy.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 15:41:56 No.6137573 >>6137568 It's designed to be used with vanilla DOOM 1 & 2 sounds so I suspect it would cause random audio quality mismatch if high res sounds is a replacer.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 15:42:03 No.6137574 >>6137539 It would need a very talented, motivated, & competent organizer.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 15:42:56 No.6137576 >>6137562 >Do you guys think id's upcoming official DOOM 64 port will be better than DOOM 64 EX? No because it'll be much easier to just play EX for free

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 15:43:00 No.6137578 >>6137562 Its the same guy that made EX, it'll be as good if not better. They also ended up fixing the other console ports of 1 and 2. Bethesda seem pretty hands off with Doom/ID

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 15:43:05 No.6137579 >>6137568 I'm pretty sure it builds over it

Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 15:47:55 No.6137593

>>6137541
I like Doom retro better than most source ports but it has some butt fucking retarded problems
>Wasn't even MBF compatible until 2020
>Randomly reversed enemy death animations don't look good
>Uses linear_nearest scaling by default instead of strict pixel scaling, which is absolutely necessary if it's going to run at a low, non-native resolution
>Explosion shakes, weapon bob, movement bob, etc make it seem like it's trying to induce motion sickness on purpose.
>.9 gamma by default
>Autorum off by default
>Options menu is barebones as hell to pretend that it's like chocolate doom,even though there's fucktons of cvars and there is just no excuse for not having an options menu. I should not have to close the game and edit a config file to turn off explosion shakes, correct gamma,and enable autorun.
>He should say fuck it and enable high resolution support like prboom+.if someone really wants doom """retro""" they can lower the resolution themselves. Ironic since,out of the box, prboom at a low resolution is more retro and vanilla than doom retro is ootb
What I like
>Blood colors
>Specific support for BTSX
>Limit removing
>Lighting enhancements
Basically it's a nicer looking version of prboom at low resolution but otherwise it's got a confusing series of design decisions behind it.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 15:53:39 No.6137604 My favorite megawad is Speed of Doom

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 15:54:23 No.6137606 >>6137604 You have nice taste. I hope you have a nice day.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 16:17:12 No.6137636 >>6137539 Man HUH took its sweet time but it did come out in the end. What happened? Did the organizer ghost and nobody bothered to pick up the pieces? Did everybody ghost?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 16:21:15 No.6137639 >>6137463 you should try tnt revilution and plutonia 2/revisited if you like final doom

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 16:31:47 No.6137661 >ctrl-f rise of the triad >ctrl-f rott >no results found fucking plebs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzu8NoVCdbQ

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 16:35:32 No.6137670 >>6137661 good source port when

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 16:35:36 No.6137671 >>6137661 How did this game have such an amazing soundtrack?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 16:36:19 No.6137672 >>6137670 When SVKaiser is done with it

Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 16:37:20 No.6137674

>>6137456
this ad always bothered me because the syllables don't line up.
twin-kle, twin-kle, lit-tle star (7 syllables)
in the cran-i-um so ve-ry far (9 syllables)

so it doesn't line up with the song.
and all they had to do was take out the word 'very'
gets you
"twinkle twinkle little star
in the cranium so far"
7 syllables each, lines up perfectly with the original "how i wonder what you are"

regardless
i do admire them for putting the "this one's a no brainer" and showing the guy blowing his own head off; you couldn't show that in a lot of things back then (or now)

but yeah.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 16:39:33 No.6137679 >>6137454 only thing that comes to mind is actually duke3d maps (ROCH, RED, etc)

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 16:43:20 No.6137690 I beat Doom 2 again. What are some cool mods that are mostly vanilla and maybe have some more creative city parts?

Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 16:46:23 No.6137694

>>6137462
This but unironically.
>>6137478
I did this on god mode one day but it took me forever.
>>6137548
git gud, it's been fun since i've been doing it since i was 10 in like '97
>>6137574
hard to find those.
>>6137670
just wait for ecwolf :^)
>>6137671
lee motherfucking jackson, and the roland SC-55 (SC88 and MT32 also, I guess. I had the soundblaster at the time so I heard the shit versions of things and still thought the songs were awesome. Nowadays the horns/piano/percussion of the roland shit sounds so much better to me, but I still like the adlib for nostalgia reasons.)
and sometimes it sounds better on a SC55 than an SC88 for some reason.
example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ai7e7VWa1I
vs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1jDm_UqAnk

of course both sound better than the adlib:
https://youtu.be/N0YFLBRa2Js?t=1317
or the andrew huff shit """remix""" that completley misses the point and just adds metal guitar into a brass marching-band kind of track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_ZBWhAaHJY

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 16:46:30 No.6137696 >>6137690 epic.wad is mostly city-like levels, if you liked downtown and such from the original you'll probably like epic.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 16:47:25 No.6137698 >>6137690 >he actually didn't quit the game on Downtown Power to you, anon. Doom II city maps (except Suburbs) are fucking awful.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 16:48:54 No.6137704 Sandy...

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 16:53:00 No.6137717 >>6137562 I'm optimistic. doom has been doing pretty well under bethesda. not only did they fix up their doom ports they also gave no rest for the living, final doom & sigil away for free.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 16:54:54 No.6137720 File: 510 KB, 768x768, 1559552155785.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6137704 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkhCNx-8Qos

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 16:55:56 No.6137723 >>6137717 >for free included with your other purchase is some shit that should have been included in it to begin with!

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 16:57:35 No.6137728 >>6137690 Beginning of hellbound has a lot of city maps

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 16:58:57 No.6137734 >>6137674 I was just thinking the same thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 17:01:45 No.6137736 >>6137690 Garrulismo has some nicecity maps.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 17:02:12 No.6137737 >>6137698 The only city maps i really hate are the factory and Gotcha, I think the rest are cool and even some of my favorite maps.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 17:02:41 No.6137738 >>6137717 True even if I dont like what they have done with doom. I hope that grace extends to the rest of Bethesda, maybe the 2019 bashing was good in the long run. Maybe Starfield and TES will be better.

Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 17:02:48 No.6137739

>>6137636
>>6137556
The project just kinda fizzled out, It wasn't like we resented each other or had a falling out. Some people dropped out, others were busy with life stuff or just didn't feel like mapping. I'm not sure if the project leader made a map, could be wrong though. If he did, it was never uploaded to the Discord.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 17:03:15 No.6137740 >>6137723 no rest for the living, yes. final doom could've easily been either a paid DLC or standalone game and they didn't have to include sigil either.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 17:06:08 No.6137746 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBHIalb01ew New Hugo Martin podcast with Noclip, talking about Doom Eternal and other stuff Was pretty legit.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 17:09:56 No.6137750 File: 1.02 MB, 1920x1080, sky_issue.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I am having this issue with Otex on my Boom map that causes the sky texture to not load properly. Does anyone know how to fix this?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 17:17:21 No.6137758 >>6137717 Wow they gave a free fanmade wad out for FREE. Truly their generosity knows no bounds.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 17:29:48 No.6137770 are infinite/endless runners possible in doom?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 17:35:13 No.6137781 >>6137770 use portals to make a loop and clear + randomize everything each loop

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 17:47:50 No.6137796 >>6137738 I don't think they tried hand at doing anything other than their own sourceport before.

Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 17:58:31 No.6137813

ey vroom is there a good wad or set of wads that turns the run n gun into more of a casual exploration thing? Like real, real heavy on the exploration, things-that-are-actually-surprising-to-find, rewards for the player thing. Maybe even sandbox style. Possibly through a particular map pack + gameplay mod + texture mod combo you like that achieves this?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 18:14:47 No.6137829 >>6137813 Phocas Island 2

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 18:18:50 No.6137836 >>6137454 >>6137679 >BTSX >Ancient Aliens >Eviternity >Roch >RED All of these are shit with their eye-raping colours and meaningless details.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 18:30:31 No.6137843 any news on doomshock?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 18:34:08 No.6137848 >>6137737 Cities don't belong to Doom environment. Doom is techbase (preferably E1 style) or hell (preferably E5 style).

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 18:48:00 No.6137858 Scourge of Armagon is the greatest expansion pack of all time because you can summon your own shambler

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 19:20:53 No.6137896 >>6137528 Homer?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 19:23:19 No.6137897 >>6137746 Wish he made something original cause I still think nu doom sounds and looks like crap.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 19:29:04 No.6137906 >>6137421 Still waiting for ShadowNukem...

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 19:37:47 No.6137920 playing claustrophobia and really digging the color palette, I don't think I've played a wad before that's swapped stock doom's searing keycard blue and "mini-golf course" colored water with navy/royal.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 19:41:13 No.6137925 doomkart wen

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 20:10:37 No.6137973 What was the name of the old Zdoom wad with the giant multi-sprite enemy? Harbinger? I recall having it on a flash drive but it doesn't seem to be there and all the online DLs are dead.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 20:12:51 No.6137981 File: 318 KB, 496x559, 1485108309697.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >map has a dozen archviles on a balcony

Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 20:18:24 No.6137985
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Ideas for the next video:
>Why you should play Hideous Destructor
The dude at Gaming Pastime already did a pretty good video on HD though, but it could always get some more love.

>A Thief video
I really want to do this sooner rather than later, but It's going to take a while since Thief FMs tend to be on the lengthy side.

>Pistol starts and you: A Doom PSA
A short, simple video encouraging people to try it sometime. Obligatory IDCLEVER mention.

>Dooming on a toaster: getting better performance out of GZDoom
I should do a bit of research on that, since I'm a toaster user myself.

Should consider:
-HL I actually said I was going to do it but it kinda fell by the wayside
-Build games
-Marathon? there was a big patch coming for aleph one I believe
-Maybe updating the original video or doing a followup at some point, with support for more languages.
]Non /doom/:
SaGa
A primer for traditional Roguelikes
Morrowind? lots of videos on that too, in particular note morrowind essentials guide by helswake, pretty great if a bit outdated

In any case, if you can think of a topic that deserves some love I'm all ears.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 20:21:09 No.6137993 Can the Switch port of Doom load custom wads via homebrew?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 20:29:46 No.6138007 >>6137985 Fuck pistol starts.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 20:57:49 No.6138047 >>6138007 The pistol sucks but pistol starting is a good test to see how well designed a map actually is.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 21:01:06 No.6138053 >>6137985 >>Pistol starts and you: A Doom PSA This is a cute title.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 21:10:07 No.6138061 >>6137836 Tasteless, moronic take.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 21:11:19 No.6138062 >>6137985 The gzdoom video would be good. Compare modern gzdoom to lzdoom, opengl vs vulkan, resolution scaling, etc.

Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 21:12:57 No.6138063

>>6138047
That's kind of retarded. If a map is designed intending for the player to start with an arsenal, then it's bad? That's pretty stupid. There plenty of good maps, both vanilla and fan made, that are in the middle of episodes or megawads expecting that the player has more than just a pistol right out of the gate.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 21:13:49 No.6138064 File: 202 KB, 500x388, 1464311943264.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6137421 Does anyone have a source on who drew this? I've tried reverse searching but no dice.

Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 21:14:29 No.6138065

>>6137993
I don't think so, but a hacked switch can play d-touch on Android which is a collection of gzdoom, prboom+, doom retro, and chocolate room. Easily superior. When the switch lite modchip comes out the first thing I'm gonna do is dual boot Android on it and play beautiful doom, Warband, and KOTOR on it.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 21:25:54 No.6138079 >>6137836 >eye-raping colours and meaningless details. Petty complaints at best.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 21:26:37 No.6138080 >>6138064 it looks like kurashiki's stuff

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 21:27:35 No.6138083 >>6138079 Mm, yes, shallow and pedantic.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 21:31:35 No.6138085 File: 1.91 MB, 1920x1080, Screenshot_Doom_20200116_203030.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wtf is causing this AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 21:40:54 No.6138090 >>6137836 >meaningless details. Most of the detailing in BTSX and Ancient Aliens looked pretty meaningful to me. Haven't played the rest, so can't comment on them.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 21:46:16 No.6138093 File: 380 KB, 1024x784, 1573355550625.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6137421

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 21:56:26 No.6138102 File: 4 KB, 100x100, no chicken.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6138093 No.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 21:58:28 No.6138105 Is there anything more satisfying in vanilla doom than the chorused effect of killing numerous enemies at once?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 21:59:29 No.6138108 >>6137836 do you even listen to what you're saying? Or do you just type for the sake of typing.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 22:00:31 No.6138109 >>6137454 goingdown.wad is the best wad you'll ever play.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 22:11:28 No.6138124 >>6138085 Cool looking map

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 22:15:21 No.6138130 >>6138102 Fuck off Dwars, go back to FurAffinity thinking about munching on fox dick instead of baiting doom boomers on watching your shit videos.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 22:29:12 No.6138149 >>6137993 >>6138065 https://github.com/fgsfdsfgs/gzdoom/releases

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 22:44:15 No.6138170 >>6138149 Huh, I wonder if the pure Homebrew port or d-touch on Android will be better

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 22:50:00 No.6138182 >>6138149 I know about the various homebrew ports, but I meant injecting custom wads into the official port. I know you can with the Android version.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 22:51:50 No.6138185 >>6138124 its sunlust part of ceiling around the super health casts a shadow that makes sprites turn completely black. i ran the map in prboom+ plus and got the same deal. so i guess its just a problem with that map

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 22:53:02 No.6138189 >>6137460 >though it has issues on modern source ports like GZDoom Seriously? Which ones?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 23:00:39 No.6138202 File: 987 KB, 500x452, 1505496924138.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6137981 >map has archviles at all

Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 23:05:43 No.6138206

useful trick for anyone who cares: you can easily detect whether some ACS is running in zandronum by doing this:
>int isZandronum = GetTimeProperty(0, TM_YEAR, true) != 0;

GetTimeProperty only exists in zandronum, where the above function call will return 1970 (the year the unix epoch starts)
in other ports with ACS, it'll see GetTimeProperty as a builtin function that doesn't exist, and default to returning 0
the other method involved using SetDBEntry/GetDBEntry, which had obvious side effects. this has no side effects, and should be preferred

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 23:06:18 No.6138208 >>6137836 Based and DOOM2.wad MAP21-pilled

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 23:07:50 No.6138209 >>6137836 >BTSX >eye-raping colours >meaningless details you're an unbelievable faggot.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 23:13:12 No.6138213 >>6138202 >map has monsters of a higher tier than spectres

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 23:14:29 No.6138216 File: 133 KB, 300x400, WHAT THE FUG.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6138213 >map doesn't have the exit in the first room

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 23:19:26 No.6138220 File: 402 KB, 1920x1057, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6137421

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 23:22:28 No.6138225 File: 394 KB, 1920x1057, 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6138220

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 23:23:32 No.6138227 File: 360 KB, 1920x1057, 3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6138225

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 23:24:25 No.6138228 File: 30 KB, 199x330, 1579234766048.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6138220 haha benis :DDD

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 23:24:47 No.6138229 >>6138220 >>6138225 >>6138227 This looks awesome, which wad?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 23:40:30 No.6138247 Is there any way to make glboom not look like garbage?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 23:58:11 No.6138272 is it just me or does increasing the FOV make the fist and chainsaw MUCH harder to use?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 00:06:12 No.6138280 What’s the best wads to play in DoomVR?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 00:14:15 No.6138289 >>6138280 well you need a VR headset for starters

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 00:20:24 No.6138295 File: 22 KB, 485x297, Screen_Shot_2018-06-15_at_1.30.36_PM.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >doom is starting to give me motion sickness It wasn't supposed to be like this

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 01:12:37 No.6138365 >>6137993 I was just watching this but doesn't answer your question really https://youtu.be/ZRIvHF-msJU?t=287

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 01:15:57 No.6138374 What are some good super old school mapsets? Like < 2001

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 01:17:22 No.6138375 >>6137421 aa

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 01:18:56 No.6138379 >>6138374 MM MM2 Requiem Perditions gate hell 2 pay STRAIN Mordeth

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 01:24:55 No.6138390 >>6138379 thanks a zillion

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 01:32:11 No.6138398 >>6138365 >performance problems >on a game from 1993 How is this even possible?

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 01:48:32 No.6138437

I fucking love the Death Wish fan campaign for Blood in Fresh Supply holy shit every level is so god damn good when it comes to both enemy placement and atmosphere, this is really fucking tops.

The only thing I fucking hate is shooting those small fucking rats and choking hands when their sprites damn near disappear by aiming down.

I wish there was a 3D model add-on for Blood like the one for Eduke only I wish it wasn't terrible as well. I want to preserve the original artstyle but I'd also like to have it so that aiming up and down without aimassist isn't such a pain in the ass.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 01:48:54 No.6138438 >>6138295 Try disabling movement (weapon) bobbing and increasing the FOV.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 02:14:34 No.6138480 >>6138374 Demonfear

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 02:23:19 No.6138486 sup doombros how it's going

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 02:49:10 No.6138506 >>6138398 raycasting is not optimal at high resolutions

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 02:50:24 No.6138507 >>6138295 you need some RealAim

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 03:34:24 No.6138546 >>6138289 thanks bud, I already do have one. I’ve just been playing classic Doom for the moment.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 04:20:52 No.6138564 >>6138295 >movebob 0

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 06:01:14 No.6138604 >>6138437 If you crouch they're eye sight level for hitscans, alternatively use the very abundant dynamite to take them out. They can't go up any ledges.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 06:06:12 No.6138606 >>6138063 Even then, they're almost always still balanced to be playable with pistol starts.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 06:15:45 No.6138614 >>6138063 Maps in mapsets that absolutely require gear from previous levels are extremely rare.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 06:17:10 No.6138615 File: 2.10 MB, 640x360, WillNotBeDeniedNoms.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] He hongry

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 06:25:47 No.6138623 >>6134085 https://allfearthesentinel.net/zandronum/download.php?file=smmdev-code-08032019.pk3 https://allfearthesentinel.net/zandronum/download.php?file=smmdev-gfxsfx-08032019.pk3

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 06:28:09 No.6138626

>>6137593
>Wasn't even MBF compatible until 2020
So, like just now? Also, assuming it's compatible with Boom and MBF, you should be able to apply .bex patches to it, correct?

>Randomly reversed enemy death animations don't look good
Would it really look that bad? It seems it would be ok as a toggleable option

>Explosion shakes, weapon bob, movement bob, etc make it seem like it's trying to induce motion sickness on purpose.
How bad is it? I like the idea of explosion shakes, but does it fuck with Doom's bobbing?

>Autorum off by default
That's true to the original .exe (in that there wasn't any autorun even)

>Options menu is barebones as hell to pretend that it's like chocolate doom,even though there's fucktons of cvars and there is just no excuse for not having an options menu. I should not have to close the game and edit a config file to turn off explosion shakes, correct gamma,and enable autorun.
Very valid points.

>He should say fuck it and enable high resolution support like prboom+.if someone really wants doom """retro""" they can lower the resolution themselves. Ironic since,out of the box, prboom at a low resolution is more retro and vanilla than doom retro is ootb
True.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 06:32:21 No.6138632 >>6138365 that title sound a bit too shilly for my taste

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 06:56:13 No.6138647 >>6138615 I always saw that staff as a penis

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 07:12:42 No.6138663
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>hear cyberdemon wake up at the beginning of the map
>find an exit door 30 minutes into the level with no saves
>it just opens up another area
>haven't fought a cyberdemon yet

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 07:19:27 No.6138669 >ignore BlooM because the concept seems goofy >turns out it isn't that bad

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 07:42:13 No.6138686 >>6137434 Me

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 07:51:11 No.6138691 File: 1.74 MB, 7824x4877, Doom Eternal.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6137421 Awesome Shadow Warrior art. Here. Have this Doom Eternal art that some anon on /wg/ edited the text out of.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 07:56:41 No.6138694 >>6137421 Is anyone working on a source port to the og shadow warrior? I bet if we ever get one it would be better then the one we officially got + we can really go ham with the modding if we can get some tools.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 08:00:12 No.6138701 File: 175 KB, 600x455, DE2C0D0E-5E90-4FD3-B242-080699D91A50.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6138691 Nice

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 08:23:25 No.6138714
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This guy took several SSG shots almost point blank and stood around walking around like a retard and doing nothing.

I guess these guys are color coded? the blue ones drop instantly with one or two rifle shots.
Also I don't remember exploding that many barrels but it took me an eternity to clear out an open area and they still kept reviving, probably a healer imp that got revived himself but Im not sure.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 08:30:53 No.6138717

>>6138714
I had this same issue. Turns out that the jackboots and chaingunners wear body armor now, which gives them great resistance to small-arms fire. You'll need 7.76 or explosives to drop them quickly, or you can try and shoot their heads and legs, depending on which enemy type it is.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 08:36:25 No.6138719 >>6138717 MAAAAAATT Can non fantasy body armor even take two barrels of buckshot at that distance? just look at the trail of shells. Guess I'll have to go out with a liberator more often then.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 08:39:48 No.6138721 >>6138719 > shotgun pellets > proper space-age armor aint punching through

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 08:44:41 No.6138725 >>6138719 >he didn't already live with the joys of autistically picking up every piece of brass and converting it after every possible encounter well, better late than never, welcome to the world of being a Liberator Chad

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 08:49:28 No.6138728
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>>6138719
>>6138725
>tfw just use the ZM66 and Thunderbuster
If my ZM's not jamming, I'm either trembling too badly from wounds to properly aim the Thunderbuster, or I'm blowing myself up with it.

Fucking love these guns.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 08:51:22 No.6138731 >>6138725 Its been a good while. Whats this about coverting ammo?

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 08:53:10 No.6138732
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>>6138379
I hesitate to call Perdition's Gate good.
It just seriously shits the bed halfway through.

>>6138717
4.72mm should do enough on their armor.

>>6138719
Shotguns generally suck at defeating armor, the pellets are perfectly spherical lead balls, and are pretty modest in energy (compared to rifles), any good soft armor easily stops a point blank tightly grouped shot.
Of course, that energy doesn't go nowhere, so even if the soft armor absorbs all the pellets at one concentrated point (or even spread out), that shit will still hurt like balls, potentially cracking ribs.

On hard armor, as in a carrier with steel or ceramic plates, the pellets would straight up flatten out against the plate, and the much larger surface area of the plate would make the impact not really hurt that badly.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 08:53:42 No.6138734 >>6138714 Oh I forgot. I found a fucking black SS officer. What the fuck.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 08:54:36 No.6138736

>>6138731
You can take 4 mil ammo and 7 mil casings and process them into new 7 mil rounds. Either by feeding the resources into your Liberator and letting it do a little war dance as it spits out new bullets, or finding an ammo processor box that does the same thing. It's not a 1 to 1 conversion though.

If memory serves right you'll automatically do this between levels as well if you have the materials.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 08:54:58 No.6138737
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>>6138728
The thing with the ZM66 is that there's a shitload of them, so if you start having problems, consider throwing it away and picking up a new to see if it's better.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 08:55:53 No.6138738 >>6138737 I like having one with a grenade launcher too much, and I never find those frequently enough. I'm a stubborn fool like that. Really shouldn't so attached to the space age piece of shit, but I am.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 08:58:01 No.6138742

>>6138731
from the manual:
* **7.76mm Reloading Device**

GZDoom actor name: `AutoReloader`
Loadout code: `rld`

Your ZM66 tactical reloads will leave you with a lot of unreliable caseless powder and lead and primers. Firing the Liberator leaves a lot of cases without powder or lead. The reuse of a partial 4.26mm UAC Standard mag is illegal, but really, the worst Volt UAC's impious counsel can do is drag you in front of The Honourable Mr. Justice Rotting-Head-On-A-Stick and his clerk Mrs. Caco, and as a natural person you don't recognize their jurisdiction. If you have this device, you will be assumed to figure out what to do in the downtime between levels.

During a level, however: ensure you have at least 4 loose 4.26mm rounds (for the primers and powder), brass, and bullets on your person (not backpack), then hold Use and hit Unload. Stand back at least 4 feet as the method is not perfect. Grabbing the device back will stop the process. You can make up to seven at a time.

Protip: Every Liberator has a portable reloading bot built into its stock. Hold Use and hit Unload to activate it when you have enough powder and brass.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 08:58:35 No.6138743 >>6138738 Standalone grenade launchers have their utility. The Lib can have an underbarrel one as well.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 08:59:56 No.6138746 Other than Hell Knights, all Doom 2 monsters are awful.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 09:08:38 No.6138747 >>6138746 You humor me greatly with your stream of accusations born from the poison of envy and smite of disrespect.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 09:09:25 No.6138748 File: 87 KB, 878x1300, 1571295917780.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6138216 > map doesn't even give you the bfg and a backpack before your first encounter

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 09:10:16 No.6138750

>>6138743
I can't bring myself to use the Lib, that thing is too high maintenance for my tastes. I know the gun is so fucking strong that it's arguably less of a hassle than the ZM, but I'm stubborn.
I wish there was at least one other weapon type, because I fucking love the feel of the shotguns but their diminished effect against armor and shields turns me off from using them.

Really I should also be using the scatter beam on the Thunder Buster more often too

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 09:13:52 No.6138754 File: 428 KB, 558x744, Imrealyhopingyoudontloaditlikethat.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6138748 >Wad has maps

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 09:15:56 No.6138756 File: 107 KB, 212x225, 1578861488725.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6138754 >wad doesn't include a readme congratulating you on being a big boy and making it through the download process

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 09:21:27 No.6138761 >>6138746 Begone.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 09:23:43 No.6138763 >>6138746 Wrong, and even if it were true they still hold the purpose of giving more upper level enemies that aren't just Cacos and post Knee-Deep In The Benis Barons.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 09:36:17 No.6138776 Hexen.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 09:41:10 No.6138782 >>6138776 Second worst game on the engine next to str*fe.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 10:31:44 No.6138823 File: 20 KB, 301x299, 1553494588228.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIZncEjZoig&feature=youtu.be

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 10:35:11 No.6138825 >>6138823 Nice, I liked that game.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 10:42:26 No.6138832 >>6138782 Thanks, bye!

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 10:49:42 No.6138838 >>6138782 based

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 11:13:03 No.6138860 >>6138823 >All those censor-bleeps The fuck?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 11:16:05 No.6138864 >hating hexen >hating strife Why are doomfags so plebian?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 11:17:19 No.6138869 >>6138823 cool, although it looks like there's some shitty hd texture pack stuff going on there interested to see what the 'new quest system' is

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 11:22:03 No.6138875

>>6138746
Only a shit player would believe this. While Doom 1's bestiary was adequate, too many monsters were basically using the same attacks, just with varying damage and health. doom 2's monsters are a lot more unique, each one adding new dynamics to fights. The Hell Knight is the only one that wasnt unique, but them being a half-health baron allowed for more oppurtunities to use them.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 11:27:04 No.6138880 >>6138823 YOU GOTTA be fucking kidding me, I just replayed this last years as part of a run of all 90s and early 00s fpses. Sin still holds up really fun.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 11:27:42 No.6138881 >>6138864 I like Heretic. Hexen was too puzzle heavy for my smooth brain so I got bored of it.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 11:28:19 No.6138883 >>6138823 >half life, try real life Fuck I still remember the ad.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 11:44:40 No.6138912 >>6138864 >Hexen >Activate switch >leave >Find new switch >leave >repeat 20 times per level >endlessly respawning enemies >enemies have waaaay too much health >only a few weapons to use per character so it gets old fast

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 11:45:25 No.6138915 >>6138782 Why are you so jewish?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 11:57:20 No.6138929 ..said the rabbi, clutching to his map pack consisting of switch hunts that make eternal doom look like nuts.wad

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 12:03:21 No.6138935 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly4DUoXoBNU its not about "why?" its about "why not?"

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 12:20:10 No.6138947 >>6138632 welcome to DF

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 12:22:38 No.6138952 File: 590 KB, 2560x1431, 1549108742872.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can I play shadow warrior through bloodgdx?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 12:46:17 No.6138981 File: 122 KB, 592x650, 0ca.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6138935 On one hand,that's awesome. On the other hand I can't believe CDI YTPs are over 10 years old.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 12:49:39 No.6138991 >>6138860 IIRC those were in the original.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 12:51:52 No.6138993 >>6138823 >they haven't fixed the quake 2 animation system that makes everyone look like they're boiling and it's creepy

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 13:06:35 No.6139017 Which fucking gzdoom version should I use with Ashes 2063? Shit keeps crashing and having missing sounds/textures.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 13:12:52 No.6139021 >>6138935 Is this korean Term

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 13:16:26 No.6139023
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I'm liking Akeldama's level design but man are they blowing their load early pacing-wise. I'm not even a third of the way through and after the 4th huge 200+ monstercount map (on HMP) I'm getting megawad fatigue like I'm on map 25.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 13:19:54 No.6139026 >>6138991 Only if you clicked "Low Mature Content" in the installer, then it literally dubbed over the audio files during install. If you were a big boy and installing it yourself then of course you would've chosen "High Mature Content"...

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 13:23:56 No.6139029 kingpin was pure trash aesthetically and completely outdone by deus ex

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 13:24:42 No.6139030 >>6138912 So Doom 2?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 13:59:21 No.6139078 File: 44 KB, 294x381, 1574626996646.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6137421 Drumroll CLAP CLAP CLAP WHAT DO WE WANT!? WE WANT SHADOW WARRIOR AND WW2GI ON BUILDGDX! WE ALSO WANT SHADOWNUKEM AND EPOWERSLAVE!

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 14:07:45 No.6139090 >>6139029 It was short and okayish, the mesh woobling was really out of control even then it looked gross. Sin masked it better.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 14:09:05 No.6139091 >>6138869 A big pointing arrow and\or telling you what the next objective is probably. I dont remember the game having any objective tab.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 14:17:19 No.6139096 >>6138506 >>6138398 Yeah, my PC can only play Doom at 1440p 130fps when software rendering. I can imagine a PS4 not being able to hit 60 solid at 720p.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 14:18:49 No.6139098 >>6138507 You mean free aiming? >>6138438 >>6138564 In Retro Doom I can reduce movebob, but in Prboom I only have the option to turn it off. I'd much prefer it to be reduced since it looks weird with no Bob.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 14:35:34 No.6139130 >>6139078 >he doesn't want a modern remaster of Extreme Paintbrawl and NAM

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 14:43:31 No.6139147 File: 838 KB, 885x912, parker.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6138756 >>6138756 >player has Doom installed

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 14:49:49 No.6139157 >>6137456 The Shadow Warrior books were great, don’t even try to change my mind.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 14:58:17 No.6139180 >>6138875 I dislike posts like these because they ignore how much higher or lower pain chance can drastically alter a monster's threat level.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:01:41 No.6139185 Wait since when do common enemies in HD have MAGIC SHIELDS. Aaww fuck

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:03:48 No.6139192 >>6139185 in my memory, the only enemies that have shields are big pinkies, arachnos, barons, and bosses, but i'm sure that's changed

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:04:42 No.6139194 File: 49 KB, 473x454, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6139147 >Player has a computer

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:06:22 No.6139203 Did MooN development stop?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:08:51 No.6139214 >>6139180 The only monsters using the same attack are pinkies and specters in doom 1, so fuck that guy. Probably never played on nightmare or UV fast.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:09:26 No.6139216 >>6139192 I dont remember anything lower than the big two having shields before

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:12:41 No.6139224 >>6139214 Barons are just imps on steroids. Cacos are just flying imps.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:16:00 No.6139234

>>6138864
Strife has horrible gunplay. The crossbows are slow, weak, and feel like shit. Your main automatic weapon sounds like a stapler and cant hit anything 20 feet away. Your grenades literally BOUNCE OFF ENEMIES back towards you. I've posted probably this exact same sentence before but it's true.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:17:39 No.6139238 >>6139078 >>6138952 The GDX developer said hes going to work on... Witchaven 2 next. But the eduke devs actually have an incomplete but playable SW port, you just need to compile it yourself.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:18:36 No.6139242 >>6139098 realaim is a mod that does that whole "realistic camera motion" aiming thing with smoother, more delayed turning

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:18:40 No.6139243 >>6139216 just checked, they all have shields, checked the hell knight for good measure and it has one too Good luck!

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:20:16 No.6139249 >>6139224 shotgunners are triple zombiemen on anti-steroids

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:21:59 No.6139254 >>6139242 Google isn't getting me anywhere. "Doom realaim" You got a link?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:22:25 No.6139257 >>6139224 Chaingunners are just shotgunners on steroids. Arachnotrons are just imps with faster projectiles and steroids. Revenants are just pussy cyberdemons with a chance to fire homing missiles. Hell Knights are just pussy barons.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:23:22 No.6139260

>>6139224
Revenants are just imps with tracking fireballs.
Arachnotrons are just imps with rapid fire.
Mancubi are just imps with spread fireballs.
Pain Elementals are just flying imps that spawn Lost Souls.
Cyberdemons are just imps on gigasteroids and with explosive fireballs.
The Icon of Sin is just a stationary imp that spawns monsters.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:24:09 No.6139263 You're simply not smart enough to play this game of likenesses.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:26:38 No.6139271 >>6139263 >>6139224

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:28:59 No.6139279 >>6139243 Why

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:33:08 No.6139291 >>6139243 Doesn't the Caco have one? >>6139279 To justify them being beefy without compromising the realistic approach to combat. It can take punishment but once the shield's gone it's no stronger than a bigger zombieman.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:33:34 No.6139294 >>6138623 is it updated now? sweet!

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:36:36 No.6139307 >>6139291 That's silly, they're demons from fucking hell, they're supposed to be supernatural threats.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:45:28 No.6139320 File: 2.20 MB, 1280x960, 2_miles_per_cheek.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6139307 >supernatural threats Yeah, that's why they have the shields. pic unrelated

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:48:01 No.6139326 >>6139291 I preferred it when you could drop a hell knight by unloading your shotgun at them.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 15:58:32 No.6139350 >>6139320 What are you actually doing with turok anon?

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 16:07:21 No.6139376
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>>6137750
For the lurkers in this thread, I managed to fix the sky issue by using Boom line action 271. In other news this action is great since it lets me test all the Otex skies relatively quickly.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 16:17:19 No.6139408 >>6139254 protip: google gives actual doom mod results by searching "zdoom" instead of "doom" and its the first first result with it

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 16:20:12 No.6139416

>>6139260
the only one of those that work at all is the cyberdemon
it doesnt have a melee attack and does the attack 3 times in a row with a different projectile
everything else is a stretch at best
except the pain elemental. thats just entirely disconnected

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 16:38:35 No.6139447 File: 2.06 MB, 1849x824, db.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6139350

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:00:55 No.6139482 Refresh my memory. Are there any instances of a switch that you can shoot in vanilla Doom 1?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:01:37 No.6139485 >>6139482 i think those were actually implemented for doom 2

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:02:04 No.6139486 File: 334 KB, 881x749, 97meets2000.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:04:09 No.6139494 >>6139486 rofl

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:04:28 No.6139495 >>6139485 I'm asking because I remember getting stuck on a certain level in TNT that required it, because back then I didn't even fathom the concept of shooting switches.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:07:03 No.6139497 >>6139495 First time I can think of it being used is map16 in Doom 2. Or map17... One of those.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:08:59 No.6139503 File: 38 KB, 234x234, joe_pesci_just_told_you_a_secret.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6139486

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:18:37 No.6139518 File: 543 KB, 720x960, 1562858579535.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] naku-naru is fun but is there a way to turn off the obnoxiously massive muzzle flashes that take up the entire screen

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:19:25 No.6139519 File: 904 KB, 900x900, EEtpldIW4AAwzoY.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6139482 chainsaw secret in e1m2?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:21:55 No.6139530 >>6139447 So a map for Turok? Cool.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:23:22 No.6139534 >>6137639 I don't like final doom

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:24:28 No.6139536 >>6139534 a shame because those wads are good, they're better than the actual final doom

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:26:19 No.6139539 >>6139485 then how did Romero get it working for Sigil?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:26:50 No.6139540 >>6139408 link is dead anyway RIP

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:28:22 No.6139542 File: 29 KB, 622x391, 1243q536y4372.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6139194 >The person is a player

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:31:18 No.6139551

Playing without pistol start feels like cheating, it literally feels like IDKFA

Was playing hell revealed 2 pistol start, then one level for shits and giggles I decided to keep my weapons from the previous level, and it almost feels like god mode/give all weapons

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:33:25 No.6139557 >>6137836 I am better than you.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:34:45 No.6139560 >>6139539 Ultimate Doom uses the enhancements of the Doom 2 engine.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:35:43 No.6139564 >>6138546 try high noon drifter its on of my favorite gameplay mods

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:39:02 No.6139569

>>6137858
I know, right? You don't even think about how useful that is until you see him run up to a Vore and completely trash it in melee combat, and then another one, AND ANOTHER ONE!
Give a Shambler some fire support so faster ranged enemies can't really shoot at him, and he'll just dominate against any other monsters.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:40:11 No.6139571
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>>6139519
>me as a kid
>somehow able to figure out that secret in e1m2
>find all secrets in episode 1 except for the allmap in e1m5
I have no idea how I missed that one. So much time spent in that map, angry because I couldn't 100% it. I never found it until someone else opened it in Skulltag MP or something.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:40:49 No.6139573 >>6139560 gotcha

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:48:20 No.6139587 Are there any ports for Heretic that keep everything vanilla but offer support for more resolutions, similar to what Crispy Doom does?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:50:40 No.6139591 >>6138272 The fisheye effect you get from higher FOV's makes things you are looking directly at seem closer than they actually are.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 17:56:30 No.6139606

>>6138063
Some mapsets may be designed to be played in a progressive fashion, but maps effectively requiring you to have collected gear from previous levels to be playable are quite uncommon (I can't think of any examples).
If there are any, they're likely short sets by inexperienced mappers.

The reasons being that *very* few people test just one map in a set by playing progressively up to that point, it takes too much time, and it's not unusual for maps to be developed 'out of order' (such as making map 6 before map 2), for maps to be developed alongside each other, and even for maps to be developed by multiple different people, all things which would complicate such an approach, giving yoy much more to account for.
It's just a million times easier and faster to just load the map up on the spot and have you be able to get gear as necessary for taking the level on (which doesn't *have* to make the level significantly easier).

You could of course devise a method and scheme to facilitate this, but most aren't going to bother. Anyway, just because maps are developed to be playable from pistol start, it doesn't mean you're not supposed to play progressively ever, I only play progressively, because it makes episodes/megawads feel more like continuous adventures, rather than a disconnected set of challenges.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:00:29 No.6139613 >>6138047 the pistol does suck but most mappers worth a damn will quickly fix you up with something

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:00:55 No.6139616 >>6138105 Yes, one thing: taking cover and looking on at a large group of monsters having a huge escalating fight amongst each other.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:01:35 No.6139617 >>6139613 and that's what I mean, if the map's well designed, there should be another weapon nearby, or a shotgunner you can kill.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:04:41 No.6139619 >>6138647 It looks funny with a blursphere

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>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:12:11 No.6139637 File: 264 KB, 793x751, 1579302731864.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6139486

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:12:57 No.6139641 >>6139234 You're supposed to tapfire the assault rifle, but as you get further into the game your precision will improve to the point that it isn't always necessary. Anyway, you should try out Weapons Of Rebellion.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:13:33 No.6139643 >>6139637 >futa Gross.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:14:21 No.6139650 >>6139643 Maybe it's a strap-on

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:15:22 No.6139653 >>6139643 >>6139650 >automatically assumes dick ya'll gay boys

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:17:05 No.6139661 >>6139637 Dani really like getting choked out, it reminds her of her dead husband

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:17:25 No.6139662 >>6138007 this is such an embarrassing post.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:18:10 No.6139664 >>6138007 fuck fist starts

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:18:11 No.6139665 >>6139637 do the inverse now please

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:18:15 No.6139667 >>6139650 >>6139653 Sure whatever, futafags are a plague. Dont care for these models in particular but I wish there was more low poly pron.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:19:35 No.6139672 >>6139653 How the fuck else is it supposed to work if the receiver is penetrated and all the giver's arms are busy? Does she have some kind of Kuato thing to finger/fist her?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:19:43 No.6139674 >>6139503 >jesus christ how horrifying.jpg

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:21:49 No.6139680 File: 10 KB, 520x518, 4U.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6139667

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:22:04 No.6139682 >>6139637 When I see old low poly models with big boobs and butts I think its sexy. But when someone actually makes porn out of it, it stops being sexy

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:22:20 No.6139684 >>6139672 Double sided dildo.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:23:30 No.6139685 >>6139680 EA logo porn, my favourite

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:23:44 No.6139687

Serious question, I don't want to start any wars or anything. But is there anyone else who really enjoyed gameplay mods then got extremely burned out? I can't play more than 10 minutes of brutal doom, complex doom gets really boring, all those other even more subtle gameplay mods really take away from the pacing of doom in my opinion. I used to think they were really cool, but now I can't get absorbed into a megawad unless its pistol start vanilla/no mods.

Anyone else in the same boat?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:23:58 No.6139689 >>6139637 >futa ga- >futa ON female based

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:24:29 No.6139690 >>6139664 >starting room has 2 cyberdemons >no berserk pack

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:25:48 No.6139693 >>6139684 I guess that makes sense. Make an offsite link showing another perspective.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:28:13 No.6139696

>>6139687
I've had the same problem with Doom in general for years honestly. I used to play the absolutely fuck out of it until around 2016, ever since then I just get bored very quickly. It sucks because there is still an absolute treasure trove of well made content out there, but I think my brain has just had enough Doom for one lifetime.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:28:36 No.6139697 >>6139690 An easy map on Chillax

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:28:39 No.6139698 >>6139687 maybe they just need dedicated maps, no?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:30:48 No.6139705 >>6139687 nah i think most gameplay mods are too gimmicky and make the player too powerful

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:30:50 No.6139706

>>6139698
the dedicated maps for brutal doom are alright, I guess. But there's just something that irks me about the 2d sprites in a game thats going for realism and 3d effects. It doesn't bother me with OG doom, because it's not going for that call of duty or quake style of game play

>>6139696
i hate to say it, because I dont like any other games but you might be right

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:37:02 No.6139717 are there any maps where you can just summon any amount and type of demons you want? Just for easy practicing baron punching and dodging and stuff

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:38:55 No.6139719 >>6137421 Who's the artist on that pic?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:41:17 No.6139726 >>6139719 zach galifianakis

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:43:05 No.6139730 >>6139726 oh ffs

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:49:22 No.6139738 >>6139687 It just means you're growing up.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:50:28 No.6139742 >>6139519 >SAD WANG

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:50:30 No.6139743 >>6139687 What're the other mods you've played? A lot of them suck.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:52:08 No.6139745 File: 312 KB, 852x1000, ad.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6139637 >>6139486 Anon you're fulfilling several players fantasies with these images. Even if you're just 20 years late.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:54:42 No.6139746
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On one hand the Adon poster is good but on the other hand it reminds me of that Alyx model from HL2 Cinematic mod,which looked like straight out of a porno rather than a girl fighting in a dystopian future.

FULLY

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:56:18 No.6139748 File: 792 KB, 1360x768, shot006.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Speaking of Turok,what would you like to see in a new game for the series?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:57:25 No.6139749 WHAT COOL WADS FOR DOOM HAVE COME OUT IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 18:58:08 No.6139750 File: 488 KB, 1920x1080, ss_d6efa0778e158291b5d756e3624c3e0a73ce442e.1920x1080.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So if Doomguy is BJ's grandson that would mean one of these girls is gunna give birth to Doomguy. Which one then?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 19:01:13 No.6139752 >>6139750 None. Youngblood takes place in the 80s while Doom 4 takes place centuries later.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 19:03:22 No.6139754 >>6139749 High noon drifter Final doomer Lt Typhon Highway Acceleroid Booster Treaure Tech is coming out sometime soon if you like the idea of a Wario style mod with big guns too

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 19:06:41 No.6139761 >>6139687 I had the exact same experience. Brutal Doom got me into the modding community, now O can't even finish an episode with it.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 19:08:21 No.6139764 File: 48 KB, 592x598, Stuff.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6139752 Oops I was off, one of those girls is going to birth commander Keen instead. But it is confirmed they're only a couple generations apart.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 19:23:19 No.6139781 >>6139518 Nah. Also, 1.0 naku naru is best naku naru IMHO.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 19:23:47 No.6139784

>>6139746
And yet, the polygon style models still look less worse than that abomination of an HL mode
3D porn not being shit is rare and even when there's something good, it's always characters from shit games
And Samus is portayed with Sarah Bryant of all things instead of even a Smash model

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 19:25:38 No.6139787
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>>6139748
A game set after Shadow of Oblivion having to fight the council while Adon tries to revive Joshua, one starring Tal'set set between Evolution and Dinosaur Hunter that ties them together or maybe bringing back that canceled sequel to the 2008 game because for as many problems Turok 2008 had there were some good things in it and if given to some devs with genuine passion for the series could make a decent game.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 19:27:09 No.6139792 >>6139687 >Brutal >Complex to be fair, those mods are like the MCU/fast food of Doom mods

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 19:36:23 No.6139814 >>6139750 >>6139764 Doomguy is from the original timeline, not TNO canon.Doom '16 might take place in TNO canon

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 19:44:23 No.6139831
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>>6139784
>3D porn not being shit is rare and even when there's something good, it's always characters from shit games
That's pretty much it,3D porn,especially SFM is terrible.
The models clashing due to different styles and textures,and the use of lightning is a shitshow sometimes.
Like those 3D animation with Doomguy fucking demons,they look silly as hell with those tits

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 19:44:25 No.6139832 >>6139687 I'm not tired of Doom but I've only been playing off and on for one decade. I go through stages of not wanting to play a ton of Doom, but mostly that means a couple levels a week. Doom is a drug to me, no shame in admitting it.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 19:47:10 No.6139841 >>6139764 Maybe Keens dad was too busy raising his kid to go adventure. Having a stable job and battling subterranean mutants that threaten to rise from their cavernous lairs and enslave the human race But probably just some dude who liked football.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 19:54:16 No.6139859 >>6139687 playing vanilla for 16 odd years can become a bit grating, honestly I mostly hang around still because I like to see what mods people are making next

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 20:02:19 No.6139870

>>6139687
>>6139696
For me my problem is checking out a gameplay mod, think it's cool and all and how I'll finally work up the will to go through a whole megawad with it, getting to the second or third level before getting bored, giving myself all the weapons to mess around with and then just stop.
Which is a shame because there's a bunch of genuinely good stuff out there that I want to finish but just can't seem to work up the time to do so. The last unfinished playthroughs I've done where I got farther than three levels because of how invested I got was Golden Souls 2 and Unloved + Project Brutality.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 20:05:39 No.6139874 So what's the best tutorial for Gzdoom builder? the one i'm currently looking at {lazygamer} is way too meandering for info that could be condensed into text.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 20:06:23 No.6139879 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcKYwNlAJwk

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 20:06:47 No.6139881 >>6139764 >>6139841 Arthur is just a tv guy.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 20:17:11 No.6139901 >>6139743 >>6139792 I was told that Burl Tumd is one of the best for maintaining the vanilla pacing, but even that was just eh.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 20:18:48 No.6139905

>>6139901
Dunno where you heard that, Burl Tumd takes the vanilla pacing and cranks it up higher.
Really all gameplay mods are gonna fuck with the vanilla pacing in some manner, maybe gameplay mods aren't for you, or you should try ones that change up the formula more drastically like Hideous Destructor.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 20:22:18 No.6139914 >>6139905 actually forgot to mention, i love hideous destructor because im an arma guy, but I couldn't play too much of it, i'd just play arma or squad instead.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 20:24:15 No.6139915

>>6139905
and what i meant by vanilla pacing, is I like all the guns to have a specific function, chaingun for dealing with hitscanners, ssg for numerous low level projectile throwers at a time, plasma for carving a path in traps etc. brutal doom and complex just give you OP weapons that you use forever

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 20:50:17 No.6139949 File: 6 KB, 226x223, download.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >running high noon drifter >health vials turned into herbs >map creators keep placing them on grass and dirt floors

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 21:04:52 No.6139960 Strife is based. Doom is for plebs.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 21:08:12 No.6139965 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPl3UpwX06c this should've been the blood theme

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 21:09:02 No.6139968 >>6139960 i appreciate everything strife does

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 21:10:47 No.6139970 >>6139764 Keen's dad was a television show host, c'mon John, you should remember this. I still feel weird about Doomguy being part of that lineage though.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 21:13:26 No.6139976 >>6139784 I think the Smash model looks kind of bad, meanwhile the Sarah Bryant in cosplay looks good. >>6139914 It's so different from Arma though, you don't fight demons with bullshit magic in that game.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 21:15:43 No.6139979 >>6139180 The only doom 1 monsters with low pain chance were the bosses.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 21:40:41 No.6140016 >>6139540 it's inside Immerse it was a joke anon, you are going to vomit your eyes out

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 21:41:44 No.6140019 >>6139096 >I can imagine a PS4 not being able to hit 60 solid at 720p me too

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 21:42:45 No.6140023 >>6139530 that's doom builder

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 21:46:07 No.6140029 >>6139750 It's like they wanted to gave them sexy leotards but then made the worst fucking body model possible. I dont understand devs.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 21:47:40 No.6140031 File: 8 KB, 312x161, 1579315660188.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 21:57:33 No.6140057 >>6140016 oh ok jesus fuck thanks for stopping me now lmao

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 22:08:27 No.6140080 >secret hidden behind wall >texture not misaligned Whats your dead give away for garbage map making?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 22:18:03 No.6140097 >>6140080 >chaingunners on high ledges behind fake walls

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 22:19:07 No.6140101 >>6140031 >Adon not towering over Joshua

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 22:24:09 No.6140112 >>6140080 There are other ways of hinting at a secret door, anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 22:27:49 No.6140118 >monsters without raise states have been given raise states. >66 Arch Viles >20 Cyberdemons

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 22:28:56 No.6140120 >>6140112 except for when they dont.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 22:30:09 No.6140121 >>6140080 >All sectors in map are marked as secret >12461 sectors

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 22:32:05 No.6140123 Ultima Underworld> Wolfenstein 3D Ultima Underworld 2> Doom System Shock > Doom 2 Terra Nova > Quake Thief > Quake 2 System Shock 2 > Quake 3 Deus Ex > Daikatana Thief 3 > Doom 3

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 22:33:16 No.6140124 >>6140123 cringe

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 22:34:06 No.6140126 File: 475 KB, 500x366, costanza.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6140080 >Thin wall placed behind a monster with an archvile behind it, constantly undoing your hard work

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 22:36:32 No.6140131 File: 303 KB, 323x417, wario has heartburn.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6140123 >Ultima Underworld

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 22:38:19 No.6140134 >>6140080 >map has more than 200 monsters

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 22:42:50 No.6140138

>>6140123
Unironically kinda, I had even more fun in shit like Dark Messiah and Arx Fatalis, Elder Scrolls jank etc, but I cant deny Build games are fun as fuck shooters.

Fuck Arcane for ruining themselves and not continuing the legacy of LGS, we didn't even Dark Messiah 2.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 22:43:12 No.6140139

>>6140080
>light is slightly different nearby
>a single candle sitting on the ground
>line of armor/health bonuses
>texture on the wall across the room is different
>wall is open when you enter the area but closes right away and requires you to solve a puzzle
secrets are awesome

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 22:48:05 No.6140143 >>6139960 I like how a man who is supposed to be a mercenary can't correctly fire a rifle without needed tacked on RPG elements

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 22:53:21 No.6140151 >>6140123 Watch out, this guy is a true intellectual.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 22:57:44 No.6140154 >>6140123 I can smell this post

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 23:04:32 No.6140160

>>6140120
Secrets with no hints are definitely bad design, I agree. I'm just saying that often times when theres no misaligned texture to hint, they use something else to hint, instead, like a decoration that's out of place, or doesn't follow an established pattern of the room. Or an elevator/door sound that happens nearby. Or a strange little nook in a corner that has a switch. I'd even argue that modern wads tend to avoid using misaligned textures, as they can make a secret too obvious.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 23:13:14 No.6140174 >>6140160 hell revealed 2: map 08, sector 139 I dare you to convince me there's a hint at that secret.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 23:13:58 No.6140175 >>6140123 >Deus Ex > Daikatana I think its funny that both of these were from Ion Storm.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 23:15:12 No.6140179 On that note: what are your favorite secrets in doom wads?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 23:15:41 No.6140180 >>6140179 misaligned textures w/ megasphere

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 23:16:33 No.6140183 >>6140080 >chaingunner falls into an invisible hole and can still hit you from there Frickin Vile Flesh

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 23:19:59 No.6140187 >>6140174 I didn't say there aren't any maps that don't hint, either.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 23:21:04 No.6140192 >>6140179 I always liked shootable switch secrets.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 23:29:03 No.6140212 >>6140174 >Hell Revealed 2 That megawad is REALLY hit or miss, honestly. >map 08 And that map is from Metabolist, who I always considered to be among the most mediocre mappers of the early-mid 00's era.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 23:30:12 No.6140215 >>6140179 far off optional areas that have little to do with the rest of the map

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 23:34:05 No.6140218 >>6140179 hidden impses or romero heads

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 23:40:04 No.6140225 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CQh5Kn8YWs This isn't possible on newer source ports

Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 23:44:29 No.6140234

>>6140179
I like when secrets have extra weapons, optional extra fights, or just generally meaningful shit inside them that changes how the level operates.

Especially secret exits that lead to secret levels. That is my favorite kind of secret EVER. Toxin Refinery is a masterpiece.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 23:50:57 No.6140243 >>6139749 Firstly: >>6139754 Secondly: Dakka new versions of Guncaster Naku Naru (1.0 is the best) GMOTA 1.0 and a couple new versions new Combined Arms stuff

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 23:52:53 No.6140245 >>6140192 i HATE how skillsaw does this. They're always tiny and across the map when you're high up on a ledge, then they open a timed secret you have to go and find. It's just tedious

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 17, 2020 23:55:22 No.6140248 >>6140245 I never had an issue with them, myself.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 00:05:07 No.6140263 >>6140248 t. Skillsaw

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 00:09:08 No.6140270 >>6140263 t. Shitter who can't accept that people have differing opinions.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 00:47:59 No.6140312 File: 107 KB, 805x540, [confused HUUUH].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6139542 >the person exists

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 00:55:46 No.6140318 >>6137737 I like Gotcha, personally. All of Romero's Doom 2 maps are fine.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 00:59:45 No.6140323 >>6140318 Go to bed Romero

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 01:53:39 No.6140376 >>6140080 Speaking of secrets > areas that can be locked out of the map forever which includes points of no return. And this one is very specific but > teleport destination right into a hurtfloor

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 01:55:49 No.6140379 >>6140376 >> teleport destination right into a hurtfloor which map hurt you anon

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 01:58:43 No.6140385 >>6139238 Thanks. It seems shadow warrior is completely overshadowed by other build games.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 01:59:32 No.6140386
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Is Doomguy left-handed? I ask because he holds the pistol on his left hand, and throws punches with his left fist.

And if he is left-handed - is that some reference to someone at id being a lefty, or is a completely irrelevant detail?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 02:40:03 No.6140435 >>6140379 \|\|One from this place\|\|

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 02:48:55 No.6140443 >>6140435 Stupid Discord made me confuse spoiler methods.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 02:51:43 No.6140448 >>6138229 I am 100% sure this dude is teasing his WIP map.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 03:01:48 No.6140461 >>6140386 He right hands the shotgun and super shotgun. Doomguy is likely ambidextrous.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 03:32:16 No.6140504 >>6140123 >Thief > Quake 2 >comparing sneak-and-steal with run-and-shoot the absolute state

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 03:37:05 No.6140508 File: 7 KB, 48x67, IDTHINK.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6137469 This is conspiracy by Gerald Brom to slander Doomguy's respectable haircut

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 04:15:23 No.6140534 >>6140376 I think points of no return can be okay if theres a believable reason for them, and used sparingly. But it definitely is pretty boring when a map relies on them too much.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 05:22:52 No.6140602 File: 573 KB, 640x356, 1576109995608.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6140386 Real operators are ambidextrous anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 05:35:06 No.6140613 >>6140508 Huh, never noticed how Ultimate Doom came after Doom 2 that featured buzzcut first.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 05:35:12 No.6140614 >>6137720 Why does dad guy look like the doom guy?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 05:38:39 No.6140619 >>6140614 >>6137720 Personally he reminds me of this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d9-RxHRtR0

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 05:43:33 No.6140625 >>6139979 And that includes barons.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 05:50:32 No.6140632 What are some good wads to play on Doom in VR? Aiming is easier in VR but moving is more disorienting so ideally something to take advantage of that.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 05:51:36 No.6140634

>>6139606
I'm kinda glad that maps are generally balanced so pistol starts are doable. It allows for my playstyle of continuous where I allow myself to keep gear from previous levels so long as I can stay alive without the help of saves/loads. If I die, pistol restart, and saves/loads become permissible for the current level only.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 06:09:19 No.6140645 File: 2.17 MB, 480x270, Quicksaving before dying.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6140602

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 06:40:01 No.6140663 File: 132 KB, 1366x768, c1a0d0000.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 06:55:38 No.6140673 File: 2.99 MB, 640x480, Steven Seagal plays Quake2.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6140602

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 07:52:44 No.6140702 File: 8 KB, 600x600, vorz.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6140123 Underworld Ascendant > Doom 4

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 07:57:40 No.6140705 >>6139719 https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/78847351 I'm spoonfeeding and nobody can stop me

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 08:24:53 No.6140734 File: 20 KB, 500x500, 1563617226653.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6140673

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 08:40:05 No.6140748 File: 1.42 MB, 2477x3493, 74654469_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >go to pixiv >search Doom >bring something back https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/74654469

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 08:50:48 No.6140753 anyone heard of Mars 3D? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDBUzMuSKyo apparently it got rereleased with a full english translation https://mars3d-game.wixsite.com/index

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 08:59:10 No.6140760 File: 101 KB, 800x600, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6140748

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 09:02:34 No.6140761 File: 239 KB, 800x600, SCREENSHOT SATURDAY BITCHES.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Good morning people, it's FUCKIN SCREENSHOT SATURDAY, SO WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? MAPS, MODELS, SPRITES? LET'S SEE IT.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 09:06:18 No.6140763 File: 651 KB, 1139x1004, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6140748

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 09:07:38 No.6140764 File: 55 KB, 318x405, Tech monk.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6140761 Got another weapon done >>>/wsg/3252029

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 09:10:56 No.6140765 >>6140753 KISSU MY ASS DAYMMIT

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 09:24:21 No.6140775

>>6139180
>>6140625
Barons really aren't that much more threatening with the low pain chance, as their attack is still basically just a single fireball that's easily dodged in most environments. The most threatening uses of Barons tend to be in tight spaces, and that's largely because their high HP makes it easier to get cornered before killing them.
Archviles are an enemy where low pain chance plays a bigger role in their threat, I'd say. Only way to avoid their attack is to break line of sight, and their low pain chance makes it very rare to interrupt it, meaning you can't just easily brute force them.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 09:29:44 No.6140776 >>6140602 >real operators >holds stock above the shoulder in any situation

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 09:31:34 No.6140779 >>6140764 Is this Mecha-Magical girl? Needs an adorable-yet-sinister mecha-kitty companion then.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 09:36:51 No.6140789 File: 231 KB, 708x392, 1570471253077.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6140776 Anon you just don't understand

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 09:44:33 No.6140791 >>6140776 I will snatch your mother fucking birthday.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 09:50:22 No.6140798 >>6140248 Cool.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 09:59:43 No.6140813 File: 905 KB, 1920x1031, hideo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6140761 Trying out new editing stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 10:01:16 No.6140817 >>6139870 I'd be more inclined to finish a wad with gameplay mods if they came with their own mapset, story, etc. As is it's just a mishmash with little sense of exploration or plot outside the readme file.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 10:03:26 No.6140823 File: 42 KB, 1056x750, new_arti-export.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6140779 Nah, it's just Arti. The gauntlets he's using are based off an old NES game I really like

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 10:08:34 No.6140826 File: 1.31 MB, 320x384, 1559703981505.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6140813 >he's actually making a video about Hideous Destructor Absolute madman

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 10:09:00 No.6140827 Played Sigil. In my opinion it's a masterwork. This is the Inferno episode we wanted to see after finishing KDITD in 1993. After 25 years of delay, it arrived.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 10:21:37 No.6140843 >>6140179 Secrets within secrets. E2M2 is an excellent example of this. I also like secrets which are hidden in plain sight.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 11:48:19 No.6140917
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Hello /vr/. I have never posted on this board before.
I also, have never played Brutal Doom.
This shit is so FUCKING good. I'm trying it on the hardest difficulty (tactical, brutal realism) and god DAMN this shit is... i dont know if its brutal but its definitely the hardest videogame i've ever played. I love it.
What are some zombie-related WADs?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 12:06:35 No.6140930 File: 2.12 MB, 918x1200, 78918455_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6140748

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 12:12:57 No.6140939 >>6140508 Fuck you, the zigzag buzzcut is badass.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 12:15:51 No.6140947 >>6140827 Inferno is better than Knee Deep In The Dead

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 12:46:33 No.6141001 File: 54 KB, 360x537, 1579369593149.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >See people making cute art of the Cacodemon >Barely anything with the Shambler >At best is the one with timbs I always thought they're cuter.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 12:46:47 No.6141002 >>6140813 depending on how in-depth you go with this, the video length could be anywhere from 10 minutes to 60

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 12:49:42 No.6141009 File: 288 KB, 800x600, cutearachno.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6140748 >several "doomer girl" results also arachnotrons are cuter than cacos. https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/78799656

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 13:17:36 No.6141058
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>>6141002
It's probably not going to be a second boot camp, If you compare my knowledge of the mod with someone like Eric you will quickly notice that he is in a different plane of existence altogether.

I was getting a bit frustrated with some of the new changes while capturing footage but I just finished my second playthough of Diabolus Ex, this time in Hideous, and damn this just goes so well with HD, I was thinking "shit I don't have summons this time for the roof" but fortunately two HERPS did the trick. They also did a great job bullying the archie.

Also now that I think about it I also skipped the cyberspace fight with the cyberdemon altogether, at least it saved me some ammo.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 13:19:28 No.6141063 >>6141001 Mombler

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 13:32:43 No.6141080 >>6140930 I like it.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 13:44:32 No.6141098 >>6140930 This would be one hell of a badass fps. FOTNS never got a decent videogame. Only some mediocre attempts.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 13:45:19 No.6141101

>>6140947
No, anon, fuck no. This is a contrarian opinion, and you know it.

From the official WADs, Knee Deep, Plutonia, NRFTL and Sigil are the ones that have proper commercial quality. They have coherent art style, character and consistency.

E2, E3, E4, Doom 2, TNT and Master Levels are mostly garbage with a few scattered good levels here and there (I really wish a Sigil-ized E4M6 for example). Some of them are rushed and poorly textured (E2, E3, Petersen's Doom 2 stuff), others are just a large pile of clusterfuckery with random authors and their random levels (E4, TNT, Master Levels).

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 13:49:11 No.6141103 >>6141098 >never got a decent videogame Lost Paradise and the fighting game for PS2 are awesome.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 13:49:48 No.6141104 >>6141103 It's very mediocre. The fighting game from arc was nice.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 13:53:40 No.6141110 Boomer who only has played doom here,whats the difference between heretic and hexen? which one i should try?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 14:01:03 No.6141119 >>6141110 heretic is doom with magic fantasy theme hexen is more of an adventure fps attempt with several player classes and maps connected to hubs which you can revisit

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 14:06:02 No.6141123 File: 2.14 MB, 640x360, NowhereIsSafe.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6140761 Makin some progress with the boss vanilla+ options, this guy a jerk

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 14:14:10 No.6141131

Figured this would be a good place as any to ask:

I recently started working on my own DOOM WAD. The map making is going fine, but every time you pick up a new weapon, the game crashes. It only happens in this WAD I'm working on. If it matters, I'm using Doom Builder 2. Has anyone had any trouble with this? It only started occuring after I started making complex geometry with the editor - and even then, it's not that complex. It just seems that if there's anything more than an empty room, it'll crash.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 14:24:03 No.6141140

>>6141131
That's very odd, have you tampered with the IWADS and are trying to pick up an undefined weapon or something?
Also what sourceport are you using? Perhaps you're exceeding some limit in the spot of the weapon placement?
Typically in my experience Doom is quite robust and I've rarely (if ever) experienced crashes outside of vanilla overflows.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 14:24:34 No.6141141 Post screenshots of the room this is happening in. Also what map format and sourceport are you mapping in?

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 14:26:36 No.6141145

>>6141101
>E2, E3, E4, Doom 2, TNT and Master Levels are mostly garbage with a few scattered good levels here and there
Eh, gonna have to disagree here. Theres definitely a lot of mediocre and boring stuff in those, but hardly what I'd call "mostly garbage". I even found TNT was actually decent, if a bit dated by today's standards.
Mostly garbage would be stuff like D!Zone and Maximum Doom which are flooded with "myfirst.wad" crap stolen from the internet.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 14:29:04 No.6141149
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>>6141140
I just imported resources from the original DOOM.IWAD. I couldn't have tampered with anything.

I made a simpler room and hallway before with item pickups & enemies and it was just fine. Once I made a room like this, it goes to shit. I can run around with pistol and fist and shoot / kill enemies nonstop, but if I pickup a weapon it either crashes completely right away or after a few seconds. Pic related is my first "cool" room.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 14:34:34 No.6141157 File: 185 KB, 1088x791, room.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6141149 room circled in red. this is literally all i have so far and it crashes. the built in checking function to make sure the map is fine shows no errors.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 14:40:01 No.6141168 >>6141157 Could you provide a download link to the wad so someone could check it out for you?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 14:45:59 No.6141183 >>6141168 https://doco.moe/5y3/mywad.wad

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 14:46:30 No.6141184 >>6141123 Cool stuff. Can the staff fire faster or is it different than its heretic version?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 14:48:36 No.6141187 >>6141168 here >>6141183 - forgot to say im heading off to work so i'll be able to see any feedback but i wont be able to post anything until later. thanks in advance. maybe i just need to make a new one.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 15:08:42 No.6141226 >>6140748 God there's a lot of doom porn. The internet's degeneracy knows no bounds.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 15:25:23 No.6141254
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>>6141187
Found out your problem. You have the map configured to use the Doom 1 and Doom 2 IWADs as base resources. This causes issues in your map such as a door not playing a sound in E1M1 and the game to crash on startup on Map01.
Fortunately the fix is simple pick one IWAD to use a base resource, since you mentioned importing Doom resources I imagine you wanted to use Doom 2 as a base. Also if you want Doom resources such as textures, skies, or music then you can download a texture pack or import the music yourself.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 15:56:31 No.6141308

>>6137421
How can I make a ZScript status bar be centered regardless of screen resolution and if possible aspect ratio, I keep seeing all these mods that use them and all of them auto scale with resolution changes but mine doesn't and becomes misalgined.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 15:59:16 No.6141318

>>6141101
It's not. Knee Deep In The Dead is fine, good even, but it's very overrated, it does exactly one theme for all of the episode.
The Shores Of Hell and Inferno on the other hand start mixing in a lot of hell into the techbases, and they're much more varied techbases, on top of featuring more varied content in terms of monsters and items.

There's no berserk packs in E1, there's no cacos in E1, there's no plasma rifle in E1, there's not much in terms of hellish stuff in E1.
While we're at it, Sigil was pretty damn good, not disputing that part.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 16:12:17 No.6141343 In BloodGDX the audio of enemies and stuff doesn't get cut off by damage or death, is there any way to fix this or is it just inherent to the port?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 16:13:09 No.6141347 >>6141343 why not use play fresh supply

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 16:14:03 No.6141349 File: 1.52 MB, 640x360, New Altfire.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6141184 It's Heretical Doom, so there are a few differences.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 16:16:11 No.6141352

>>6141347
I can use more of the AI upscaled sprites in Death Wish in BuildGDX than in Fresh Supply.
Honestly no port is perfect.
Fresh Supply is the easiest to get into but has the least moddability and some of the damage is still off though its most noticeable using spray cans on bloated butchers. At least the skybox tapers off nicely instead of just cutting off at the top.
NBlood is good but isn't compatible with a lot of mods, I also think that it has the least easy to use menus, and the skybox isn't tall enough its really easy to see the problems. Plus some visual glitches on some levels. Probably the most accurate though. BuildGDX is the worst optimized but it's the first so pretty much everything moddable is built for it.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 16:20:05 No.6141364 >>6141343 Thats just how the game is. And it's an accurate port.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 16:21:05 No.6141370 >>6141364 Weird, both NBlood and Fresh Supply don't do this.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 16:25:29 No.6141381 >>6141101 >E2, E3, E4, Doom 2, TNT and Master Levels are mostly garbage This is the actually contrarian opinion.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 16:26:13 No.6141383 >>6141381 apart from doom 2, i dont think it is

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 16:28:01 No.6141389 >>6141383 E2 and E4 are way more fun than E1, Doom 2 is mostly on par with E1, and half of TNT is better than E1, while about half isn't (some is awful). Master Levels suck.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 16:29:50 No.6141394 >>6141389 e1 has the best levels hands down out of any commercial doom release though. and the more open doom 2 levels are great change of pace

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 16:44:47 No.6141418 >>6141349 >firing the gem like a physical projectile THAT'S NOT WHAT THE STAFF DOES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 16:54:32 No.6141443 File: 80 KB, 720x479, fuck logic.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6141418

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 16:56:28 No.6141447 >visual gltiches in Death Wish on BuildGDX now I just can't win. I hope someday the community consolidates on a single port of Blood.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 16:57:57 No.6141454
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I honestly didn't expect Johnny Doom to be so much fun. Playing on "Plutonia Pete" difficulty is one hell of a ride.
I love the way Glory Kills are implemented and J points. All of this is so much better than Brutal Doom.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 16:58:04 No.6141456 >>6141394 I don't agree at all. Romero does far better levels in E4 and Doom 2, and Sandy does better levels in E2 and E3 than either him or Romero did in E1. Then you have No Rest For The Living and Plutonia.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 16:59:24 No.6141462 >>6141456 i think your definition of "fun" leans more heavily towards challenge than well-crafted levels which is fine, but thats not how i see things

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 17:00:14 No.6141464 >>6140080 >>texture not misaligned if anything that's just making a secret even more secret

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 17:00:58 No.6141468 >>6141462 Then you should probably git much more gud. E1 is well crafted, but really not very challenging, and challenge is clearly part of the fun.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 17:01:31 No.6141473 File: 1.24 MB, 1280x720, Battlemode.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 17:02:11 No.6141475 >>6141468 you misunderstand i dont find any of that challenging, but my ranking of the levels does not hinge on difficulty. it hinges purely on level design

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 17:15:40 No.6141512 >>6141383 I don't think it's contrarian about Doom 2. Most people agree that Doom 2 levels suck, and only the new beastiary and the SSG kept the game on the surface.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 17:19:45 No.6141521 I know they're planning on adding additional maps to the console ports but have they said anything about add-ons? Ala Minor Sprite Fix, Vanilla Smooth Weapons hi-res sounds? Nithing GL-based but it'd be nice for those kind of options

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 17:21:13 No.6141531

>>6141318
I would say the first 3 levels are a nice buildup, and Military Base gives a new kind of style for the secret map.

Then the non-Romero M4 stalls the episode with its generic look. You can say the same about M5 and M6 too, but M5 has a memorable layout, while M6 is the first truly challenging level.

M7 is the culmination of the episode, the grand finale before the boss level. M8 is very different.

I'm glad John created an M4 and M8 alternative. They look more advanced than the original episode, but the vibe is the same, you can feel the 1993 winds with those levels. I guess it would make more sense to have the episode as: M1-M3, (M9), M5-M7, then M4b and M8b. M4 looks totally out of place in that early spot, but it would make sense as a Computer Station followup.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 17:23:12 No.6141537 >>6137421 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsVWdMVYJgk

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 17:23:49 No.6141539 >>6141101 >Some of them are rushed and poorly textured It's almost like Hell is represented as an abstract dimension and Petersen was a Lovecraft fan If anything, Hell is the one dimension in Doom that benefits from the "weirdness"

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 17:27:00 No.6141542 >>6141110 play them on your own, since they're on the op links

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 17:58:19 No.6141595 >>6137421 I have yet to figure out how to actually update BuildGDX from its current 1.03 to the latest version of 1.06. I REALLY hope I don't have to uninstall it and the Re-install it.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 17:58:34 No.6141596 What's your favorite shiny G/Zdoom map/mapset that utilizes zdoom features well while still being fun to play?

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 18:00:11 No.6141601
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A shame that some Eternal designs are overdetailed because i like the idea of the Kahn Maykr.
It being a metal angel with a brain almost draws a parallel to the SMM, so there's some potential of Heaven and Hell having these contrasts, patterns and similarities.
But then there's the lore and how Hell was simplified as fuck and at best being either an extension to Doom 64's Hell or Beksinski inspiration.
I imagine a "simplified"/"attempt at being classic" version of it being like a female angel statue made of metal where the brain is shaped like a pope had, with wires and metal around it and the feather wings are made of gold.
Heaven is one of those things that probably should have been tried in the previous games to even work in Eternal, even if old id wouldn't think about it.
Doom 3 could have made them victims of Hell like humans and martians and play a cutscene of some angel getting ripped apart by an Hellknight while angel babies are transformed into the bug demon Cherubs.
Her name and voice acting still sound a bit "eh".

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 18:03:08 No.6141607 >>6141601 overdetailed designs are just the MO of AAA modern games

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 18:04:18 No.6141610 >>6141601 >pope had Pope HAT. >>6141607 It sucks because it feels like an attempt and making a design "more interesting", except its misguided and turns out to be generic.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 18:05:29 No.6141613 >>6141601 I thought overdetailed biomechanical 90's style was a core aesthetic of old doom games

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 18:05:39 No.6141615 >>6141601 Well it's your brain on triple A. Hugo in that recent interview said it himself, Doom Eternal is made for mass market appeal and it's junk food, junk food with variety his own words. Western devs have no vision.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 18:10:44 No.6141623

>>6141613
I agree some textures and things look overdetailed but i assume textures were the way they were because they were based on some things like toys and objects laying around at it.
Some textures were probably also the way they were to look a bit more distinct, so they could be used to make less more diverse looking, even if still abstract and keeping some colors attached to certain themes (Kind of the case with the UAC while Hell textures are a bit more "contextual" except for the infamous FIREBLU maybe).
New Doom feels like it's taking advantage of the engine to focus too hard on it.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 18:11:26 No.6141624
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>>6141601
>>6141607
>>6141610
I still feel the Angel of Death in Hellboy 2,is one of the best designs for angel ever.
Detailed but recognizable.
I'm surprised that Eternal look so detailed and yet lack charisma all around,they don't feel like a celestial being but cyborgs instead.

>>6141613
Yes but those were meant to be campy and easy to recognize.
Take a Strogg from Quake 2,you can actually tell what is going on and all around is simple,then take a Quake 4 Strogg,an overdetailed mess that make it just ugly.

>>6141615
The more I hear about this stuff the more I feel we're problably getting another The New Colossus-like case all over again.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 18:12:00 No.6141625 >>6141601 Yeah, both western AAA and weebshit have this tendency to overdetail EVERYTHING and it looks oddly samey even if the art styles are wildly different

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 18:13:23 No.6141627 >>6141615 >Hugo himself said eternal is comparable to junk food please no, the closer we get to March the more things seem to be going down the drain

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 18:14:50 No.6141629

>>6141624
>The more I hear about this stuff the more I feel we're probably getting another The New Colossus-like case all over again.

Dont think so seems more well directed.

What is lacking in western games is a clear style. It's the AssCreed syndrome for me, amazing assets made by tons of people but then an npc opens his mouth and everything is garbage.

I really think artistic direction and writing should be better handled. Or maybe we just dont have the talent.

>>6141627
At least he is honest about it. Guy is great. Who knows if this is a success he may eventually something more personal.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 18:15:29 No.6141630 >>6141629 The problem is both devs and publisher meddling.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 18:16:46 No.6141634

>>6141627
>>6141629
Maybe he didn't wanted to make it sound better than it actually is but at the same time, it can feel like he's underselling Doom as a series or even what he's working on.
Even if the games are good, he may not really see the "why" part of it.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 18:17:38 No.6141637

>>6141630

No I think its more than that. Yeah we get Rage 2 husks of games, but then is Ion Fury better?

There is no creative drive in videogames lately except for some exceptions. I dont want to sound negative, and I dont have any answers.

>>6141634
I can see that angle.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 18:22:25 No.6141652
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>>6141629
Sure it doesn't feel as much of a trainwreck but is far more hyped,like it's going to be the best FPS game ever made.
I respect Hugo but ID are like trying to hide some nasty marketing scheme behind it like microtransactions and DLC,more than it was actually shown.
I'm getting Dead Space 3 vibes from this,also a sequel of two absolutely loved games and this one meant to appeal to a wider audience and the devs were forced to shove EA garbage in there because they want it to sell more.
It wouldn't surprise me Bethesda told ID to do something like this,considering everything published since Fallout 76 was either underwhelming or sucked.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 18:23:59 No.6141654 >>6141652 Maybe, you can tell from a distance Zenimax and Bethesda are going down the drain.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 18:24:10 No.6141657 >>6138280 hdoom obviously

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 18:24:10 No.6141658 >>6140789 >>6140791 I love these Steven seagull threads. They never cease to amaze me.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 18:25:59 No.6141665 >>6141637 I blame the devs there.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 18:31:46 No.6141672
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>Doom Eternal comes out
>It's really short
>Most of the mechanics are undercooked
>It's inferior to Doom 4
>Turns out they delayed it so more people could pre-order the game and buy the merch
>Same for the shitload of fanarts increasing their faith to the franchise
>The fanbase goes nuclear
>Midnight shills the game non-stop and shifts to Halo news instead like the bitch he is
>The posers leave the fanbase
>Turns out Todd used part of the game budget and merch sales to make Elder Scrolls 6
>"Fuck you we got your money"

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 18:32:20 No.6141676 https://twitter.com/DrPyspy/status/1204166022460104704

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 18:34:03 No.6141681 >>6141672 Looking at ESO, TES6 is going to be a marvel to behold.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 18:38:32 No.6141693 >>6141595 just copy the files over your old files ding dong

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 18:53:10 No.6141728 >>6141672 i'm surprised nobody made a "the virgin fanartist vs the chad modder" meme yet

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 19:11:40 No.6141752

>>6137993
It can play wads but anything modern won't run at acceptable FPS.

Brutal Doom for example isn't going to be Fullspeed even when you drop the resolution. I tried the castlevania TC and it ran at like 5fps. The recent Halloween jam wad crashes the app.

Obviously older stuff will work fine though. Also, you can overclock the switch which would likely help running more intense wads and mods but I've not personally tinkered with that yet just out of laziness to get it set up.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 19:18:02 No.6141768 >>6141381 Rate my ranking > Sigil, E4, E1, Doom2, E3, E2, Plutonia, TNT.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 19:19:10 No.6141771 >>6141157 Click on the node viewer on the left, and screen cap.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 19:20:56 No.6141775 >>6141149 What do you mean you imported from an iwad? Explain the steps.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 19:23:23 No.6141783 >>6141775 As explained here >>6141254 anon setup Doombuilder to use Doom 1 and Doom 2 as base resources.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 19:40:41 No.6141816 >>6141672 Some people wet the bed thinking this? kek

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 19:43:08 No.6141820 >>6141728 >What if we outreddited reddit

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 19:45:51 No.6141824 >>6141820 >All discussion is changed into repeating the words "Brutal Doom" over and over again for years

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 19:57:56 No.6141842 File: 675 KB, 1360x768, Screenshot_Doom_20200118_162033.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Eternal Doom? more like Eternal Kino

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 19:59:23 No.6141846 File: 321 KB, 569x1252, cornered.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the best maps to play Hideous Destructor on?

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 20:12:45 No.6141864
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Playing Aliens Ultimate Doom Special Edition with Diabolus Ex and out of all the enemies I get a goddamn Predator on the balcony.
Screenshot taken seconds before I got killed.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 20:14:36 No.6141867 >>6141846 This pic reminds me of Doom RL.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 20:16:25 No.6141870 When will we see another /vr/ Hexen project, or better, Hexen 2 (with Game of Tomes)

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 20:17:26 No.6141876 >>6141846 I believe the github page for HD has a list of maps that have been tested and found suitable. But if you haven’t played it already, Diabolus Ex is probably the best.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 20:19:24 No.6141878 >>6141870 I’ve never tried the /vr/ Hexen maps. Actually, I’ve never really delved into fanmade Hexen stuff in general. Do these maps focus more on exploration or combat?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 20:22:03 No.6141880 >>6141816 It's the preemptive control maneuver to the imminent Doom Eternal discussion once the game launches.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 20:22:31 No.6141881 >>6141870 >>6141878 Are there wads for heretic and hexen? I'm probably moving away from doom for a while now. And want try custom maps of other shooters. Currently doing arcane dimensions.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 20:32:56 No.6141897 https://twitter.com/kinsie/status/1218519404280836096

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 20:38:08 No.6141901 >>6141881 theres lots for heretic, and they are pretty good. Haven't tried anything hexen because it brings back memories of how much of a slog the vanilla maps are.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 20:38:46 No.6141902 What do you guys use to play doom on the vita? I use chocolate doom currently and it keeps crashing randomly.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 20:39:53 No.6141903 >>6141881 I know of Elf Gets Pissed, which is apparently breddy gud, and I think there’s a /vr/ Heretic mappack

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 20:43:30 No.6141907 >>6140930 Is it me or does Doomguy's left hand seem flat somehow?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 20:44:13 No.6141908 >>6141897 is this like a small-scale zdoomwars?

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 20:51:19 No.6141916

i wonder whether or not d4v will have some updates related to eternal
>plasma rifle automatically creates an explosion when an enemy is killed by it
>pain elementals are just flying revenants with disguised rockets as souls
>arachnotrons can throw grenades as an alt attack
>whatever's new for the archvile
>some new species that can replace the ones in the base mod like the gargoyle replacing the cacodemon, like how it's done with weapons

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 20:51:43 No.6141918 I just realized something, is the girl in the new Eternal trailer ("The only one they fear is you.") the same one from the PA system and intro narrator for Doom 3? https://youtu.be/_J2YcaVqjCQ https://youtu.be/LLrPsAQhYV8?t=11

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 21:17:56 No.6141956 Playing through Strange Aeons right now with a gun mod. It's pretty fun so far, think my favorite level so far is the fourth one with that face paced music.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 21:18:21 No.6141957 File: 30 KB, 1280x960, kenshirocorvus.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6141881 curse of d'sparil, the wayfarer, shadows of chronos, and what >>6141903 said

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 21:22:55 No.6141967 >>6141956 Never mind fuck this wad for pulling a Doom 64 on me with that secret on the sixth level!

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 21:29:31 No.6141984

>>6140775
Low pain chance means that in tight spaces, where every fraction of a second is vital, it is more difficult to stunlock barons with anything weaker than a plasma gun before they close in on you. That's why barons are dangerous in these situations, as lots of hit points mean nothing if you can easily immobilize a monster with a simple chaingun barrage.

In the case of the Archie, they need the high pain resistance, or else their lack of immediate attack would make them laughably easy.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 21:42:20 No.6142008 >>6141918 has d3 ever had seperate volume sliders for music and other sounds? sounds like something bfg edition shouldve fixed and i barely recall hearing that song properly specially the piano e1m1 part

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 21:46:21 No.6142016 >>6141916 It would be better to just make a DE4V

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 22:11:39 No.6142067 File: 82 KB, 640x659, 39c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >conspicuous rocket launcher laying in tight hallway

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 22:21:46 No.6142076 File: 410 KB, 221x196, noexit.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6142067 >conspicuous power-up in otherwise empty room

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 22:28:17 No.6142084 File: 19 KB, 345x316, 1560131074615.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6142067 >>6142076 >key that's just standing out in the open

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 22:31:00 No.6142090 File: 49 KB, 600x578, 130221984383.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6142076 >A single health bonus in the center of a large room

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 22:31:01 No.6142091 >>6142084 Thats the oldest and most obvious "trap" in the book, I highly doubt you show any surprise like your reaction image.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 22:34:59 No.6142095 File: 18 KB, 300x300, panic-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6142067 >room full of rockets >large pillar in the middle starts lowering

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 22:36:40 No.6142097 >>6142091 Not anon but it gets done so often I'm afraid when it doesn't happen

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 22:40:19 No.6142098 File: 23 KB, 317x193, [SCARED].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6142076 >pick it up >hear the sound of a moving floor/ceiling >but nothing happens

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 22:48:18 No.6142106 Can any Raven loremasters here tell me, does Heretic's world Parthoris have any moons?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 22:54:04 No.6142118 >>6142098 >swing fist in air >billion revenants start screeching

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 22:57:47 No.6142125 >>6142106 yes

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 23:00:25 No.6142129

>>6140753
>In 1997, a software company named
"Engine Technology CO. LTD" based in Taiwan/China, developed their 3D-shooter
named "終極戰士 / The Ultimate Fighter" also known as "MARS or MARS 3D".
>based in Taiwan/China
>Taiwan/China
OH NO NO NO NO NO, YOU CAN’T JUST CALL TAIWAN “CHINA” LIKE THAT

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 23:03:18 No.6142132 >>6142125 What are they, so I don't fuck up my skybox?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 23:04:19 No.6142135 >>6140645 That's not a real cut is it?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 23:05:32 No.6142137 >>6142076 I feel a deep sense of dread when I see multiple power ups and ammunition lumped in together. I broke into a cold sweat when I saw how many soul spheres that roof level in going down had

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 23:06:33 No.6142138 File: 160 KB, 1069x800, temp.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6140761 started third map. textures are all placeholder.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 23:12:25 No.6142140 >>6142138 i think it looks pretty good with those textures

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 23:15:20 No.6142143 File: 76 KB, 833x300, 1547000706975.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] fuck lost souls and double fuck pain elementals

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 23:18:42 No.6142149 >>6139587 >>6139587 >>6139587 Anyone?

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 23:20:13 No.6142154

>>6139870
>For me my problem is checking out a gameplay mod, think it's cool and all and how I'll finally work up the will to go through a whole megawad with it, getting to the second or third level before getting bored, giving myself all the weapons to mess around with and then just stop.

This, Jesus Christ this. It's horrible.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 23:22:29 No.6142159 >>6140139 I love this shit. I hate "random wall in a hallway is the secret" BS.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 23:23:42 No.6142161

>>6140080
>the secret is a wall near the exit that starts open and closes after 30 seconds, cannot be opened ever again and the only way you will ever figure it out is if you are speedrunning the level and notice it

Fucking Reverie did this bullshit.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 23:47:48 No.6142190

>>6141984
>as lots of hit points mean nothing if you can easily immobilize a monster with a simple chaingun barrage.
You need both low pain chance and high hp for either to really work. If the baron had the health of a pinkie, the low pain chance wouldn't really matter, even in tight spaces. You'd have to resort to using a lot of them, but then at that point, the threat is more because of their numbers, not the low pain chance.
>In the case of the Archie, they need the high pain resistance, or else their lack of immediate attack would make them laughably easy.
That is exactly why their low pain chance has a bigger role in their threat.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 18, 2020 23:52:22 No.6142194 >>6142076 >grab partial invisibility sphere >three cyberdemons revealed

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 00:02:59 No.6142214 >>6142140 Needs more variation to differentiate depth. Larger bricks and such.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 00:04:25 No.6142216 >>6140080 How misaligned does it have to be?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 00:05:18 No.6142217 >>6142194 this made me mad just reading it

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 00:06:20 No.6142219 >>6142194 >>6142098 >>6142095 >>6142090 >>6142084 >>6142076 >>6142067 Why do I feel like Hidetaka Miyazaki was a doom mapper in a past life.

Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 00:14:28 No.6142229

>>6139180
>how much higher or lower pain chance can drastically alter a monster's threat level.
Pain chance by itself isn't what purely effects a monster's threat level. You need to factor in what kind of attacks the monster has (as painstates can interrupt them), and their amount of HP in order to determine how much their pain chance enhances their threat level.

Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 00:22:35 No.6142232

>>6139870
>For me my problem is checking out a gameplay mod, think it's cool and all and how I'll finally work up the will to go through a whole megawad with it, getting to the second or third level before getting bored, giving myself all the weapons to mess around with and then just stop.
You are me.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 00:27:52 No.6142239 >>6142132 Just one basic moon, according to the skybox of the first level of Heretic 2.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 00:36:11 No.6142250 >>6140645 he was in a building inside a building inside a building

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 01:28:58 No.6142293 >>6141846 >Maps specifically designed for this mod: >Operation Gambler by YoBadMama >Doom Recon by Morcillete >Office Assault by mumblemumble >Witchhouse by Leon Portier

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 01:30:06 No.6142294 >>6141846 https://github.com/MatthewTheGlutton/HideousDestructor/wiki/Maps

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 01:46:07 No.6142303 >>6142194 Fucking Scythe map27

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 02:12:18 No.6142330 I remember there was an anon working on a mini-map mod for GZDoom, basically just cut smaller automap tucked away on the corner of the screen. Was that ever released?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 02:22:29 No.6142342 >>6141768 > NRFTL > Sigil > E1 > Plutonia > E2 > Doom 2 > E3 > TNT > Master Levels

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 02:24:17 No.6142346 >>6142342 switch ML with TNT, and you got yourself a deal

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 02:36:03 No.6142357 The only things I want in BuildGDX right now is for enemy sounds to be cut off by damage and death, every FOV higher than 60 to not warp the entire world around me, and powerup timers.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 02:46:33 No.6142368 >>6142346 Both are shit, so I don't care. Oh, forgot E4. That's between Doom 2 and E3. > NRFTL > Sigil > E1 > Plutonia > E2 > Doom 2 > E4 > E3 > shit > TNT = Master Levels

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 03:05:13 No.6142392 Suburbs, they're a shit place to live and a shit Doom II map

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 03:40:08 No.6142434 File: 39 KB, 461x475, 1571985548131.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is it possible to have a refresh rate of 144 in quakespasm without breaking the physics or do I actually have to use darkplaces for that?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 04:25:10 No.6142452 File: 179 KB, 640x400, Screenshot_Hexen_20200119_102343.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] anyone has played the assassin in woc? is it any good?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 05:13:12 No.6142481 >>6142434 Quakespasm spiked

Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 05:17:15 No.6142483

>>6142481
Thanks. I vaguely recall having some sort of an HUD element that showed UPS movement speed a few years ago on my old machine when I was using darkplaces, was it specific to the engine or is it a common command? I tried googling it, but most results are inevitably about q3

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 06:53:08 No.6142572 >>6137424 Put >>6140753 in news post

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 07:28:50 No.6142595 >>6140753 >>6142572 so where is the download link?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 07:36:33 No.6142604 >>6142595 uh.. It's Mail Order, the game will be on the CD they give you

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 08:16:44 No.6142638 File: 267 KB, 857x672, c3c.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What do you think about Brutal Hexen RPG?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 08:23:58 No.6142647 >>6142149 Just play it in GZDOOM software and be happy to have that.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 08:33:05 No.6142649 >>6139587 There's Crispy Heretic and Heretic Plus. Both are a pain to install and run. I could not get either port to run with my custom vanilla heretic maps, and there's no error messages so fuck knows what's wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 08:35:46 No.6142651 >>6142604 >€3800 Is this a joke?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 08:52:00 No.6142662 Any must have mods or stage/monster packs for hexen? is it really a switch fest as everyone says here? i am brainlet

Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 08:57:41 No.6142665

>>6142662
Hello gggmanlives fan!
>Any must have mods or stage/monster packs for hexen?
must have? no, vanilla is fine, but if you want to spice things up, go either hexercise (its old tho) or cronos unleashed (mage is shit with this mod tho, so if you wanna go mage, dont play it)
OR
just go pure autismo with latest wrath of cronos (6 playable classes, warcraft inspired spells, xp, lvling up, stats, alchemy etc.) or go with woc+hexercise combined mod (it uses older version of woc, with only 5 classes)

>is it really a switch fest as everyone says here?
there's quite a lot of switching, but its fun, just play the game

>i am brainlet
good to know

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 08:58:49 No.6142667 >>6142651 i thnk thats 38.00€ as in 38 euro bucks which is still an abhorrent price for a bootleg doom clone

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 08:59:56 No.6142670 >>6142662 Just play it and form your own opinion

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 09:00:39 No.6142672 >>6142665 T-thanks

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 09:13:07 No.6142678 File: 11 KB, 734x177, 1579443187725.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6142665 Sorry to bother again anon,will this be everything i need? a old version of gzdoom wouldn't run it so i got the newest version

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 09:16:02 No.6142681 >>6142678 you look all set, just when ingame, check binds for additional woc stuff, like leveling menu, binds for spells etc

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 09:20:49 No.6142685 >>6142681 thank you for all the help anon,appreciated

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 09:21:12 No.6142687 >>6142662 There's only a few times when the switch shit gets over the top >One switch of nine But anytime there's a load of switches they're in the same general area.

Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 09:33:37 No.6142702

>>6142665
>Hello gggmanlives fan!
>goes to check his youtube channel
Oh god dammit he did do a review of it, now anyone making any opinion at all is either a fanboy or a hater. I don't even watch him but its always so clear on the board whenever he makes a relevant video.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 09:42:39 No.6142709 >>6142702 > "the dark souls of fps" i expected nothing and i got dissapointment anyway

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 09:52:38 No.6142723 >>6141846 If you've never played it before, the original three episodes are a pretty good crash course.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 10:14:50 No.6142748 >>6142702 Why is more people playing Hexen a bad thing?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 10:17:16 No.6142754 >>6142090 Fucking Serious Sam, man

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 10:21:30 No.6142763 >>6142748 It's not a bad thing,it's good that more people discover it considering how different it is compared to most FPS games. >>6142709 He didn't say it,it's a quote from idiots who deadass think that.

Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 10:24:09 No.6142764
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>Finish Unreal Gold
>All around good
>Start Return to Napali
>Hear a dude voice
>Says all the things he went through from the base game
>In the base game you're a woman

Excuse me?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 10:29:59 No.6142773 >>6142764 AT what year it was made?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 10:32:42 No.6142775 So Graf made a fork for PrBoom+, is this thing any different for recording demos?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 10:35:14 No.6142776 >>6142008 Don't think so but boy did that game need it. Trying to listen to the audio logs while being deafened by machinery was really irritating.

Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 10:37:31 No.6142784
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>>6139870
It's pretty much the reason why I can't play Guncaster and highly prefer Vindicated.
It balances things out and give me the reason to use all my arsenal.
I seriously get bored when some of my weapons can destroy everyone with little no effort.

The very few cases I went all the way through a mapset was with D4T + Ultimate Doom.

>>6141226
Most Doom porn is terrible anyway,it's either weeb as hell like HDOOM or dumb monster garbage where the artist has to shove their fetishes in it as well clashing with the design

Don't get me started with those female Doomslayer art.
Fucking idiotic to take away certain armor parts just to show the legs and ass.
It's not like Simon Bisley art where they're meant to look like that.
It looks awkward as fuck with these.

>>6141816
It's not that impossible though.
Given the bullshit I've seen since Eternal reveal by the fanbase and Bethesda, wouldn't surprise me if anon was 100% accurate.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 10:38:35 No.6142785 >>6142773 Unreal in 1998. RTN in 1999.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 10:40:05 No.6142787 >>6142764 Ahead of it's time

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 10:40:59 No.6142789 >>6142787 kek

Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 10:41:18 No.6142790

>>6142775
nha it's mostly for the Zmapinfo thingy i believe, it essentially makes the map manipulation of map info for gzdoom stuff into prboom+ compatible
essentially secret maps can be controlled and not stuck on the map15.
>>6142785
Then it was a common misconception of the time unless t that was an actual expansion then i would agree with you

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 10:41:53 No.6142791 >>6142764 The voice depends on your player class.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 10:46:04 No.6142793 File: 5 KB, 183x275, download.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6142790 RTNP is one of the two story addons and it's official. >>6142791 That's odd because Prisoner 849 is indeed a woman and the default class.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 11:02:22 No.6142804 >>6142790 Would it be worth it for users of PrBoom+ to move to Graf's fork? I assume he hasn't done anything else to fuck with it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 11:06:31 No.6142809 File: 94 KB, 768x576, Screenshot_Doom_20200119_170550.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 11:13:13 No.6142812 >>6142804 I mean for all i've heard This should just make some more interesting boom formatted levels

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 11:18:27 No.6142817 >>6142804 PrBoom+ itself hasn't been updated since mid-2017, so if the UMAPINFO fork becomes reliably maintained, it definitely will be worth it to migrate.

Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 11:18:46 No.6142818

>>6142812
Might as well add brightmap support while he's at it. Non-intrusive, looks good, and there's already packs you can load up for it.
Was PrBoom+ an OpenGL port or not? GLDefs for dynamic lights wouldn't be all that bad either, off by default of course.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 11:23:07 No.6142823 >>6142818 PrBoom+ has GL support, yes. Its based on a very old version of OpenGL though.

Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 11:23:59 No.6142825

>>6142764
You changed your player. The base game isn't anyone but "prisoner 849".
Return to na pali has some decent maps, but that voice and the new weapons ruin it for me. I know a lot of people like the assault rifle, but it's honestly shit. It looks like garbage, and it functions too much as a general purpose weapon, so theres even fewer reasons to switch. All other weapons it adds are redundant and worse.
Anyways. The story is ok, but starts out with "haha everything you did was pointless" and overall it lacks the same feel of lonely exploration.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 11:34:53 No.6142834 >>6142784 What bullshit do you talk about? Those fake leaks that got debunked or the part where absolutely nothing out of the ordinary was said about it and the game is pretty much drama free?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 11:42:53 No.6142852 >>6142834 Bullshit by Bethesda is their track record and decisions such as F76 and more. The problem comes if they put their hands in Eternal as well.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 11:46:50 No.6142858 >>6142852 Bethesda isn’t making this. It’s id.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 11:48:05 No.6142859 >>6142858 That didn't stop them with other games like Quake Champions and Wolfenstein.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 12:29:20 No.6142920 Just finished the first episode of No Rest for the Living and, I must say, it was staggeringly kino.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 12:54:28 No.6142951 >>6142920 NRFTL is just one episode, so you already beat it, but yeah, it's a top shelf level set.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 13:11:14 No.6142974 >>6142951 Whoops, meant first map.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 13:15:24 No.6142981 >>6142859 Nu-Wolfenstein was made by Swedish cucks.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 13:21:42 No.6142995 >>6142793 It's not THAT odd. After all, if you pick a male class it doesn't make female sounds in-game, either. It makes more sense for the game to change your voice if you're playing as a guy in cutscenes too.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 13:27:49 No.6143013 i think i'm new because i don't know how to start downloading a .wad

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 13:28:13 No.6143015 >>6142859 Quake Champions was Willits. Willits is Willits.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 13:38:30 No.6143038 >>6143013 Have you never downloaded a file from the internet before?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 13:39:05 No.6143039 NEW THREAD >>6143034 >>6143034 >>6143034

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 13:39:40 No.6143041 File: 268 KB, 546x546, 1579236786823.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6143013 there in the OP dude

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 13:42:06 No.6143046 >>6143038 it tells me to open using an app

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 13:44:54 No.6143058 >>6143046 Save it to your hard drive holy shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 13:48:03 No.6143065 >>6143058 Ok

Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 14:23:00 No.6143123

>>6142190
Frankly even simple pinkies that suddenly can't be easily immobilized by chainsaw or chaingun attacks would still affect the game considerably. You're really selling the importance of pain chance low, of course it isn't the only important part of how a monster works in the game, but it can still alter quite a bit how you approach it in combat.

>>6142229
Good thing no one was saying it was what purely affects a monster's threat level, but just an important factor that often gets overlooked.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 14:53:36 No.6143204 >>6138952 what's wrong with redux?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 15:07:42 No.6143236 >>6143013 Find the download link, save to hard drive, open the .wad file with your source port of choice.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 19, 2020 19:57:14 No.6143836 >>6138109 how much does it rely on slaughter shit?

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