/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6133981]

Most underrated retro console?

[Anonymous No.6134030]

From a normie perspective, it still is the TurboGrafx-16 imo

[Anonymous No.6134036]

The snes, it's definitely a hidden gem. I wish Legend of Zelda got more attention too, I never see anybody talking about it.

[Anonymous No.6134048]

>>6133981
First console i ever had. Some absolute classics on this machine. Had the best version of Taz-mania too

[Anonymous No.6134061]

>>6134036
Did someone say.... hidden gems?

[Anonymous No.6134095]

>>6133981
I love the MS cause it showed me in 1987 that Nintendo was a brand for plebs.

>Got the system and some Games.
>Told some friends I got the Master system and I am playing Double Dragon coop with my sister.
>Got called a liar cause "You can't play with 2 player on console"
>After school I showed them you could
>Had to kick their pleb asses out after 2 hours playing.

Same shit when I got 3D glasses and Outrun for exemple.

[Anonymous No.6134098]

>>6134095
>I love the MS because it turned me into a console war faggot
Come on dude.
Unless you're a nintendrone falseflagging, which would be even sadder.

[Anonymous No.6134101]

>>6133981
It’s a shame such a graphically potent console had a laughably outdated sound scheme. It should have went the TG16 route or shipped with FM as standard

[Anonymous No.6134117]

>>6134101
I used to think that but nowadays this and the genesis sound like old PCs, like an adlib card or something and I just like that sound so much that it's grown on me.

[Anonymous No.6134148]

>>6133981
Sonic 2's soundtrack is fucking sublime.

[Anonymous No.6134158]

>>6133981
*system

[Anonymous No.6134164]

[Anonymous No.6134195]

>>6134030
Agreed. I didn't know anyone with a Master System as a kid, but my rental place had the games, and I'd seen the converter at Funcoland. TG16 only existed in magazines.

[Anonymous No.6134257]

>>6134117
>genesis sound like old PCs
What old PC sounded like this natively?
https://youtu.be/V0kq0yCTpNE?t=218

[Anonymous No.6134270]

>>6133981
The SG-1000.
no, that's a fucking lie, even if it has a handful of neat games
>Star Jacker
>Exerion
both are cut down arcade ports, but I still play 'em a bunch
>Hang On II
it's like the SMS version, but with uglier graphics and different course layouts (oh, and the background music plays during races, which always pissed me off about the SMS version)
>GP World
not actually an arcade port despite being named after Sega's LaserDisc based racing game, it's a pretty standard Pole Position game that plays okay

I don't even think I'd say the SMS, because the SMS library kinda just sucks
like, it's still not that bad and there's a few things I like
>R-Type
it's very well done, and there's a secret level, but it's still a 30fps port of the game
>Space Harrier
this port is actually kinda terrible and hyper choppy but I love it for some reason
would also mention After Burner on SMS, but you can literally hold left and dodge everything for most of the game
and now that you know this, the game is outright ruined forever
any time you're in trouble, you'll just do it and you won't be in trouble anymore, until very late in the game
>Kenseiden
this game is great
>Sonic 1
impressively solid platformer with nice graphics

anyone mentioning Psycho Fox should be shot, that game controls like ass
the only people who say it's good grew up with it and didn't have anything else

>>6134148
it really is
shame Sonic 2 SMS fucking blows

>>6134101
I have zero fucking idea why it didn't ship with FM in the west.
fuck, there are western-exclusive SMS games that have FM soundtracks, so it was definitely planned
was kinda odd that games were either all-FM or all PSG too (might have been some inconsistent volume mixing thing), Genesis games get to use PSG

the sound being so lame stems from the SG-1000, which is literally just the ColecoVision with a different memory map
and the SMS is a direct descendant of the SG-1000, just with a better video chip and more memory

[Anonymous No.6134329]

Wonderboy in monster land is one of the best games ever but it's also on the pc engine and so is wonderboy 3 the dragons curse so I gotta go with that. Master system had a ton of dope games like kenseiden, the rastan port, black belt, the Mickey mouse games, and way more but the pc engine just had way more that even. That might be nostalgia for me too cause two of my friends had turbo grafxs growing up and I got to play a lot of blazing lazers, dungeon explorer, and neutopia and I even liked games like China warrior (thought it was just a better kung fu), and keith courage (the alpha sword is a pain in the ass to buy but otherwise I thought the game was pretty good actually).

[Anonymous No.6134341]

>>6134257
You're right, no old pc sounds like a faggot modifying the megadrive synthesizer's parameters to make sounds he thinks are cool

[Anonymous No.6134348]

>>6133981
Sure as hell isn't this hunk of shit that has a top of two games worth even booting up.

[Anonymous No.6134349]

>>6134341
So you admit that, due to having a synthesiser with adjustable parameters, old PCs don't sound like the Genesis? Don't know why I'm proving you wrong, tomorrow you'll go right back to saying it again.

[Anonymous No.6134350]

>>6134349
What the fuck are you talking about, space man

[Anonymous No.6134352]

>>6134350
>genesis sounded like old pcs
>old pcs didn't sound like genesis (or any console with a true synth)
>you're right, but the guy in the video is a shit so i don't care
>that you say you don't care means my proving you wrong was pointless
>woah, you're absolutely crazy!

[Anonymous No.6134357]

>>6134195
My local rental spot had TG16 games but I don't remember seeing Master System. Only Sega Genesis, which I had. Only ever played TG16 at Media Play.

[Anonymous No.6134358]

>>6134352
Get help, unironically

[Anonymous No.6134368]

>>6134358
Cool gaslighting. Anyway, the discussion is over now.

[Anonymous No.6134394]

>>6134257
>What old PC sounded like this natively?
Literally the PC-98 series (the same FM block used in the PC-98's OPN and OPNA chips is used in the Genesis OPN2).
Most machines didn't ship with a sound card from the factory, but there were several models that did and it was a very popular option due to gaming.

Closer to home, a broad range of tones possible on the OPL2 or OPL3, as found on many PC compatible sound cards, are doable on the the OPN series, and vice-versa.
A lot of PC compatible systems shipped with one (or a clone, thanks to the OPL series' high popularity with the Sound Blaster series of sound cards) installed.

There are a few big differences (the OPL2/3's big thing is adjustable waveforms instead of just pure sine and the OPL2 is only 2 operator vs the 4 operator OPN series -- the OPL3 does support 4-op modes and can produce sounds even closer to the OPN series), but being FM chips made by Yamaha, they have many similar characteristics in both synthesizer parameters and overall tone.

>>6134349
see the above

[Anonymous No.6134405]

>>6134030
Nah, TG gets jerked off by virtually everyone thanks to Rondo.

[Anonymous No.6134457]

>>6134164
s o u l

[Anonymous No.6134463]

>>6133981
>playing action RPG
>push the pause button conveniently located on your console instead of the fucking controller to open the inventory screen

[Anonymous No.6134489]

>>6134270
>has arguably the best port of Ultima IV
>as far as I know, it only came out in america
>it has FM sound
for what fucking purpose

[Anonymous No.6134530]

>>6134489
I'm assuming future proofing. Were there ever plans for the FM addon officially?

[Anonymous No.6134564]

>>6134195
"Existed only in magazines" consoles for me
Neo Geo
CD-I
3DO
Lynx
Jaguar

I remember Master System game boxes in stores, the blue grid pattern was easy to recognize

A kid in my neighborhood had TG-16 but I wasn't in his house much. I do remember him showing me Splatterhouse. His parents were drunk bikers with Frazetta paintings on the walls and I suppose that game kinda matched their alternative esthetic

[Anonymous No.6134595]

i honestly wonder why they bothered with converting super scaler games for it

it would've been better served by original IPs

[Anonymous No.6134643]

>>6133981
I'm always the only one who has ever heard of this

[Anonymous No.6134671]

>>6134595
The Super Scaler games were Sega's mega-hits.
Not bringing them home would have been insane.

mind you, the Genesis's lack of scaling seems kind of absurd given just how popular these games were (fuck, the machine launched with Space Harrier 2), although given that the project would have been started several years in advance, while Sega was only just coming onto the scene with Super Scaler games, it's not that unreasonable

[Anonymous No.6134673]

>>6133981
TG-16

[Anonymous No.6134787]

>>6134643
My family had one but my idiot cousin broke it one day. It was ancient, so I guess it's not surprising it couldn't survive one of his apeshit tantrums. That was in, like, 89 or 90.

[Anonymous No.6134820]

>>6134643
Had one when I was a kid. I remember the overlays. Had Tower of Doom, Astrosmash, Lock'n Chase, AD&D Cloudy Mountain, Space Armada, and Auto Race. Might've had more but I can't bring up any more memories. Too old.

Anyway, the system was great and I had fun playing it, weird controllers and all. You're about the only other person I've seen even talk about it!

[Anonymous No.6134823]

>>6134061
>>6134036
Upvoted, you epic gentlesirs truly win the internet today with your dank and original memes.

>>6134463
And a generation before that people were occasionally flipping switches on their console because the controller only had a single button. Let's not even get into the 2600 "Raiders of the Lost Ark" adaption.

[Anonymous No.6134829]

>>6134643
>>6134820
Excelllent taste. The Intellivision actually had some interesting and experimental titles.

[Anonymous No.6134850]

>>6134036

[Anonymous No.6135189]

>>6134405
The fact that normies only know it as the console with Rondo shows how underated it is.
The TG is rated slightly higher than the SMS in the public eye, but it is also way better console, so my point still stands

[Anonymous No.6135190]

>>6134643
shittier Colecovision

[Anonymous No.6135263]

>>6133981
Sega Saturn

[Anonymous No.6135381]

>>6135263
would be true if it had an actual library of worthwhile games

[Anonymous No.6135383]

>>6135381
More than the Masturd System

[Anonymous No.6135389]

>>6135383
we both know that's not true but neither console had good libraries to begin with

[Anonymous No.6135395]

>>6135389
Saturn has a lot of good stuff, both ports and original games. Master System has Phantasy Star, Wonder Boy III... uuuuuh

[Anonymous No.6135397]

>>6135395
>a lot of good stuff
hardly, the problem is comparing either console to its competition at the time shows just how little both had to offer
having a couple of good games doesn't make a console underrated because that means it barely offers anything
those games might be underrated due to not many people playing them but the consoles themselves still suck

[Anonymous No.6135415]

>>6135389
>we both know that's not true
total moron
>>6133981
PC-98, or in other words TurboGrafx-16 with all the Jap games included

[Anonymous No.6135428]

>>6135381
I disagree. Saturn had a great library of games, which is why I own a Japanese Sega Saturn.

[Anonymous No.6135435]

>>6133981
Saturn

[Anonymous No.6135442]

>>6135383
At least the masturd had Sonic games

[Anonymous No.6135482]

>>6134030
This. The Master System was and still is popular in some countries, but the PC-E doesn't have a very large following outside of Japan. The tiny translation scene doesn't help too.

[Anonymous No.6135494]

>>6135415
You meant PC Engine, right?
The PC-98 is the computer with all the shovelware H-games.

also, the the PC Engine library is really heavily dominated by CD games
a PCE with only games on card is just kinda depressing

[Anonymous No.6135495]

>>6133981
That chart on there is just so needlessly complicated. Why did they do it? Still just confuses me by just looking at it. I mean I know how the system works, heck was my first console ever and I love it but WHY SEGA?
Also looks like some tech from original 70s Star Wars. I love it for looking so out of this world.

What are some must plays?

[Anonymous No.6136297]

>>6133981
3DO. There are really good games for it (Love the port of Road Rash and Samurai Shodown) and some popular ones came out FIRST on 3DO such as Policenauts and D.

[Anonymous No.6136307]

Probably the NES or PlayStation

[Anonymous No.6136309]

>>6136297
>FIRST on 3DO
>Policenauts

Nope

[Anonymous No.6136334]

Was the grid a good aesthetic?

[Anonymous No.6136337]

>>6136334
No, it made everything look like doodles some kid drew in his trapper keeper during geometry class. Although the fact that most of the drawings were fifth-grade tier didn't help.

[Dillweed No.6136339]

>>6136334
Yes, it was.

>>6136337
Zoom Zoom

[Anonymous No.6136349]

>>6136334
It was shit, here's the same game Japanese cover.

[Anonymous No.6138479]

>>6134829
Astrosmash was one of the greatest shumps of all time.

[Anonymous No.6138482]

>>6138479
Dude Thin Ice, He Man, Shark! Shark!

Heck yea

[Anonymous No.6138575]

>>6135495
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31K4UE1qRps

[Circuit Shitty No.6138768]

>>6136334
No. It was trying and failing to be parallel to Nintendo black box games one of several huge mistakes Sega made in the US with the master system

>>6134270
>I have zero fucking idea why it didn't ship with FM in the west
This being another one, though we had no idea about it at the time

One more that hadn't been hit yet in this thread. Having over the most important wave of distribution to fucking Tonka of all people. Why? Were they told that Tonka would "soon" be a part of Hasbro? Were they given some kind of killer pitch convincing them the distribution of video games consoles was parallel to the distribution of toy trucks? Did they just have no other option?

They may have been better off letting Tectoy do it from the beginning and just smuggling hundreds of thousands of consoles into the US like coccaine.

[Anonymous No.6138781]

The Jaguar was a powerful console with shitty games. Not the cheapest but still quite a bargain compared to the 3DO and Genesis + 32X. Atari should've waited until the fifth generation came while optimizing the GPU for 3D games.

[Circuit Shitty No.6138789]

>>6138781
Books can be and have been written about what Atari should have done. People who think Sega massively fucked up got no idea.

[Anonymous No.6138792]

Saturn. The biggest issue is the shit tier NA library and the ridiculous ass prices worldwide for each system. Other than those issues, I have been pleased with my purchase of one last year after buying it on the fly worried that I blew $70.

[Anonymous No.6138797]

>>6138781
It really wasn't. The architecture was probably worse thought out than the PS3's.

[Anonymous No.6138801]

>>6134030
this

[Circuit Shitty No.6138803]

>>6138797
Bitches don't even know

[Anonymous No.6138805]

>>6133981
colecovision

[Anonymous No.6139880]

>>6136349
>samurai dude clumsily stumbles around while his parents disapprove and others are so amused they are jumping around over it