GET THE HELL OFF MY LAWN

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GET THE HELL OFF MY LAWN Anonymous Mon, Jan 13, 2020 23:42:07 No.6132428 [Reply] [Original]

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>6127606

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR

Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4

Launchers for Build Engine games
http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
https://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

Anonymous Mon, Jan 13, 2020 23:42:33 No.6132429

=== NEWS ===

[1-13] Port of prBoom to GBA
https://github.com/doomhack/GBADoom

[1-11] Sunder update adds in MAP18
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/46002-sunder-map18-emerges/

[1-8] Death Wish for Blood is up to version 1.6.10
https://www.moddb.com/mods/death-wish-for-blood/downloads/death-wish-160-updated-10-31-19

[1-7] New Slayers Testament build is released
https://youtu.be/KSco01sUzeo
Don't bother with the discord link, have the direct links here:
>testament
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12l7nM_jgwURCHO5aiTiQgHtcu1VbnU2g/view?usp=sharing
>music
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rLA4M64ZWBliyOPSHZ0_td0LgHwghl9G/view?usp=sharing
>demo patch
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_qser-2BggAdcy1WCw-SrXs9PWm2Xd6c/view?usp=sharing

[1-6] GZDoom now updated to 4.3.1
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=66882&p=1130828

[1-5] 'Stickguy in Doom'
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=66877

[1-4] 'January Jump Jam' for Quake ongoing, making maps using the jump mod
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61803

[12-31] BuildGDX is up to v1.06
https://m210.duke4.net/

[12-31] TerminusEst13's Booster Mod released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKCSNSkxd_o

[12-31] Finnish Quake Map Jam, Menetettyjen Valtakunta (Realm of the Lost) released
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/smej_1.0.html

[12-29] Wastewater Station, a new Quake 2 map, is finally released!
variableone.com/maps/newcrash.zip (1.5mb)
https://twitter.com/Colonthreee/status/1211331998968619008

[12-28] Doomsday Engine 2.2.0 released(Stable build) also its 20 years old birthday release (Dec 18 2000)
http://talk.dengine.net/discussion/2768/doomsday-2-2-released-doomsday-blog

[12-27] Quakewulf is working on the sequel of Sonic Mayhem for Quake 2
https://twitter.com/Colonthreee/status/1210389071027150848

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>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 13, 2020 23:47:41 No.6132436 soulsphere but smiling

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 13, 2020 23:54:26 No.6132443 >>6132436 Smiling soulsphere but frowning

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 00:10:14 No.6132462 File: 7 KB, 106x118, 1536251153439.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] GERO SHAY CRUOOO

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 00:35:50 No.6132478 that doesn't look like water spraying on his face...

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 00:37:53 No.6132480 File: 36 KB, 416x332, cacodemon-imp-oh-dear.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You ever wonder if the Cacodemon gives great head?

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 00:38:40 No.6132482
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What's the WIP project that you're most looking forward to?

>someone actually recovered the unfinished third Shadow Warrior expansion, Deadly Kiss, and has been working on restoring it to playable state for a couple years now
>said "someone" is THE GUYS THAT MADE ION FURY
>stars Lo Wang's sister as the player character (pic related)

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 00:38:47 No.6132483 >>6132428 How he's slouching over with the garden hose in his hand + his face. I live for this shit

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 00:46:42 No.6132493 >tfw Speed of Doom is almost 10 years old

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 00:51:43 No.6132497 >>6132482 Is there any actual evidence of progress? I read about that years ago but havent seen any recent news at all. However... I have been seeing exciting posts about a SW port by the eDuke / Ion Fury devs.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 00:58:18 No.6132507 >>6132462 MARINACS PHALLUX

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 01:08:26 No.6132526 >>6132480 I only wish to consort with the finest of barons.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 01:35:11 No.6132548 >>6132428 Stop bullying caco!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 01:52:24 No.6132561 File: 206 KB, 329x453, 1553598970819.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://youtu.be/p-MogqLZTXk

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 02:09:48 No.6132578 >>6132548 stop being so fat > round, floaty, electrically charged fucking balloon-ass motherfuckers

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 02:11:04 No.6132580 >>6132578 stop projecting your fetish

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 02:11:40 No.6132581 File: 2.89 MB, 1376x2655, 1578985900555.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6132526 >H-Doom variant with proper monster girls never ever

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 02:12:53 No.6132583 >>6132580 ???

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 02:16:02 No.6132587 >>6132583 either he can't take a joke, or can't make a joke allergic to fun

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 02:18:10 No.6132589 File: 67 KB, 184x184, 1572761817977.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6132581 nice

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 02:22:11 No.6132590 File: 16 KB, 379x214, 569426.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6132581 This is the best Baroness I've seen next to that one with the jeans that takes a selfie with Doomguy. Very good.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 02:23:25 No.6132593 >>6132581 I want her to sit on me.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 02:27:22 No.6132597 File: 31 KB, 498x381, 1577162899562.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6132581 > the D4 pinky by Rube

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 03:00:54 No.6132629 File: 91 KB, 560x800, Lucy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 03:23:57 No.6132643 >>6132629 as always, it should be pointed out >5’10 >170lbs

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 03:32:01 No.6132649 >>6132428 >I tell you hwat, that demon ain't right

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 03:38:17 No.6132653 File: 544 KB, 1280x1024, Screenshot_Doom_20200114_033724.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Somewhere in Nevada, Hell

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 03:43:11 No.6132659 File: 817 KB, 1280x1024, Screenshot_Doom_20200114_034200.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 03:50:28 No.6132661 File: 681 KB, 1280x1024, Screenshot_Doom_20200114_034231.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >but what about the red don't worry you're covered

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 03:51:46 No.6132663 File: 575 KB, 1280x1024, Screenshot_Doom_20200103_191510.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6132661

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 03:53:12 No.6132667 File: 668 KB, 1280x1024, Screenshot_Doom_20200114_035252.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6132663 whoops. older screen. fog fixed

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 03:55:42 No.6132669 File: 675 KB, 1280x1024, 1578992142819.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] :)

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 04:16:24 No.6132680 Retoasting Is Dead Marine feature complete or is there a more complete version out there? Not that redux one, it seems to change gameplay

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 04:38:59 No.6132684 File: 693 KB, 720x360, Kame Bomb.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm fuckin around with this, I think it turned out alright. I was gonna make it stick to walls but it felt too weird, so fuck it, it just latches onto the ground.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 05:00:13 No.6132691 Waltz of the demons is the worst song in Doom 1 you can't even vibe to it

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 05:00:54 No.6132692 >>6132493 >tfw suspended in dusk is nearly 15 years old >tfw espi passed away over 10 years ago

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 05:05:29 No.6132698 >>6132629 That's one accurate model. You can see the cellulose in her ass.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 05:29:49 No.6132712 >>6132581 Always nice to see your works in these threads almonds

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 05:51:49 No.6132727
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>>6132581
>Right mix of original design, cuteness and lewd
Nice job

>>6132590
That one is kinda odd given the expressions but still adorable

>>6132597
>Rube
Eeeh his designs are pretty crappy honestly.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 05:55:57 No.6132730 File: 891 KB, 1309x1386, Cacoaline3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 06:01:39 No.6132736
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>See so many Alien Doom mods
>Remember the companion mods
>One where xenomorphs are your companions and you can pat their heads
>One of them is an android has a pulse rifle like in that comic

>>	not todd Tue, Jan 14, 2020 06:11:08 No.6132739 >>6132736 the funny thing is when that actually works >bolt some big old computer to a xeno's head >somehow it JUST WORKS (tm)

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 06:15:27 No.6132746 >>6132428 So what do you guys think about Slayer's Testaments? Is it good?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 06:29:19 No.6132751 >>6132746 Most monsters are a step back from the Quake originals and weapon alt fires are useless.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 07:30:10 No.6132786 I just finished playing through all of Ultimate Doom using hdoom; I must say, it was excellent. Gonna give Castlevania: Simon's Destiny a try now.

>>	Marisa Kirisame !!FrQCaIaTfJw Tue, Jan 14, 2020 07:39:08 No.6132792 >>6132482 Fuckin' Treasure Tech I WANT IT, NOW

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 07:51:56 No.6132798 File: 113 KB, 1000x716, unknown.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6132792 You and me both, when does the threshold of early 2020 end anyways?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 07:53:22 No.6132801 >>6132482 >>6132792 >>6132798 I'm waiting for Treasure Tech as well. Hard to say where he draws the line with "early 2020" but I got faith in the guy

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 08:15:59 No.6132819 >>6132736 >patting xenomorphs Where can I find this beautiful mod?

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 08:21:50 No.6132825
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>>6132428
So what's the best multiplayer sourceport for playing Vanilla Doom right now? I've tried Zandronum but most servers use a lot of custom addons. Tried Odamex too but once I logged in the client, all of the servers were empty.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 08:24:32 No.6132828 >>6132819 It doesn't exist,it's more of a concept. It would be cool though.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 08:40:54 No.6132846 >>6132828 Why would anybody do this? It's horrible All a xeno does is death.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 08:45:43 No.6132850
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>>6132846
Unless you tame them with technology or is synthetic.
Like this one,Jeri.
He has the appearance of a xenomorph and works pretty much that way but has the mind of a human.
Another one named Norbert who had a pet dog.

Both are able to speak and capable to use guns as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 08:52:15 No.6132861 >>6132736 Here’s a question: are there any Alien/Predator/AvP mods that aren’t ass? The original TC is passable considering it’s status, AliensTUD sucks and I can hardly remember that Colonial Marines one.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 08:57:46 No.6132863 >>6132850 i am very glad that my knowledge of the alien franchise is limited to the movies, that seems incredibly stupid

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 09:00:00 No.6132865 >>6132581 I'm thankful for that.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 09:03:50 No.6132869 >>6132746 Pretty neat on the visual side, but the gameplay doesn't look like anything special.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 09:04:23 No.6132871
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>>6132863
It's actually fun to read.
It manages to be entertaining and the characters are well written.
Pretty much everything by Dark Horse is better than everything after Aliens.
there's a comic of a pig carrying a nuke

>>6132861
Aliens Eradication is really good and Aliens TUD Special Edition is great too.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 09:04:57 No.6132872 >>6132863 Yeah. It seems that more often than not, expanded universes are a curse.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 09:26:14 No.6132893 >>6132850 >tame them >synthetic >real xeno Literally impossible on a real xeno. >>6132871 Can vouch for dark horse though.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 09:32:49 No.6132903 i know that this isnt /vr/ talk but it seems that Dante and Doomguy will be the next smash dlc characters to be announced january 16 Today we will be getting the 2nd trailer for Doom eternal at 11ET

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 09:36:35 No.6132907 >>6132903 I really hope you got this "info" by browsing braindead rosterfagging threads on /v/ and that it isn't actually true

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 09:40:00 No.6132912 >>6132903 fuck off with your rumors, /v/

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 09:46:35 No.6132917 File: 312 KB, 383x721, sokarface.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6132903 That's only true if we get the D64 skin

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 09:51:15 No.6132920 >>6132871 I downloaded Eradication and messed around with it for a few minutes. A few of the weapon sprites seem broke but otherwise it looks promising. I can’t find TUD SE anywhere though.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 09:56:31 No.6132926 >>6132920 There you go http://www.mediafire.com/file/1fhnq6ykoo79f1c/Alien_Ultimate_Doom_%255BSE%255D_v.1.zip/file

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 10:02:15 No.6132928 >>6132926 teewhy, time to shoot some xenos

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 10:05:06 No.6132930 Wish Magikal died before finishing his shitty community chest maps so I wouldn't have to play them.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 10:08:24 No.6132934 Rude

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 10:08:31 No.6132935 >>6132452 intredasting

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 10:12:25 No.6132938 File: 55 KB, 720x725, 1565709331268.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6132452 >>6132935 of course is only the demo

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 10:19:51 No.6132947 THEY'RE BAD MAPS, JERRY

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 10:23:47 No.6132951 >>6132730 I'd train that cyber-pinkie.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 10:28:33 No.6132957 >>6132751 It's a mod, I don't know why you would compare it to Quake's normal roster like it wasn't two different games.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 10:35:19 No.6132964 >>6132429 Bethesda interviewed Romero https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/en/article/1vt4DnYWjIz6T8KbegBs8G/nods-to-mods-interview-john-romero

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 10:38:14 No.6132972 >>6132964 >JR: I’d like to. Fans have so many ideas that I’d be busy for 10 more years if I did them. How about a whole new set of Hexen maps? Lots of suggestions. But I do want to work on another set of maps for one of my classic games.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 10:39:13 No.6132973 >>6132972 Daikatana map pack incoming

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 10:42:54 No.6132989 >>6132964 >John Romero likes Ancient Aliens based

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 10:45:29 No.6132996 >>6132973 DUMP-Katana when?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 10:50:13 No.6133002 >>6132972 >Q2SP made by Romero >Big Gun is now a real boss map >Makron Map is now huge >More Gunner traps >Perfectly placed Gladiator Snipers >Environment is now a thing >Easiest maps are Tech gone bad style of difficulty. GIVE!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 10:51:18 No.6133007 >>6132972 That most caught my attention too. The idea of a hexen mapset has been bandied about so much it would be neat to see Romero tackle the idea of puzzles in a retro fps.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 10:52:23 No.6133010 >>6133007 Serpent ressurection is literally A Daggerfall Dungeon mappack

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 10:53:09 No.6133013 File: 52 KB, 256x256, 1464026811992.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6132972 >How about a whole new set of Hexen maps? Yes. Give.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 10:56:18 No.6133017 File: 182 KB, 1024x919, 10731689795_9ce714e3be_b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is Heavy weapons dude black and does he have goatee?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 10:57:40 No.6133021 >>6133017 Why did you post a picture of Lo Wang with a chaingun?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:06:03 No.6133032 >>6133021 ancient chinese secret

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:06:40 No.6133036 >>6133017 That's kinda how i always saw him. Bloody goatee though.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:13:08 No.6133040 >>6132581 more please

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:16:06 No.6133045 >>6132428 To that anon who is making the new REKKR maps, what is your ETA, and are you the same guy who made the original REKKR? That's one of my all time favorites.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:25:11 No.6133065 >zoomdoom 2 coming out soon >quake still dead in the water it hurts so much

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:32:50 No.6133074 >>6133013 >>6132972 Double yes. Yes to puzzles, but NO to whatever the fuck puzzles were in core Hexen

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:33:59 No.6133076 >>6133021 YOU ROOK RIKE STOOPID

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:34:15 No.6133078
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Hey /vr/, how do I get Heretic to look like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nm_pp0uOcg
I've never used GZDoom before and don't know how to get the little lighting effects from projectiles and torches.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:35:23 No.6133079 >>6132482 Hendricks and his team can't do anything right. Their names are a guarantee for failure. Ion Fury was shit in hindsight.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:37:19 No.6133081 Can anyone give me a brainlet tutorial of making an enemy replacement wad, either through functionality or just visually? For examaple replacing Hexen Wendigos with Archviles?

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:37:42 No.6133082

>>6132801
>>6132792
>>6132798
so far he is working on the art for the game manual and zdoom forum thread, so there is that
he even streamed it too
https://www.twitch.tv/hyperultra64/video
he still has to needs to finish some other stuff and i think it should be ready

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:37:49 No.6133083 >>6132482 >What's the WIP project that you're most looking forward to? BTSX E3, TNT2, and Supplice

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:37:53 No.6133084 >>6132972 Doom was a great game, while Hexen was shit. Just stick to the good one John.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:40:30 No.6133086 >>6132482 Still a shame they didn't call Lo Wang's sister No Wang.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:42:12 No.6133087

>>6132736
What's the point of mounting the whole box on the front of their heads (the part they are likely to break)? Xeno's don't have eyes in traditional sense so wouldn't it be better to place it somewhere harder to hit and more stable, like back of their shoulders?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:48:53 No.6133094 >>6133086 kek

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:52:48 No.6133101 File: 88 KB, 1920x1080, Screenshot_Doom_20200113_042009.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] freindly reminder Beautiful Doom is shit daily reminder Smooth Doom will not work with Zandronum 3.0

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:55:01 No.6133106 >>6132482 A port of SW enemies to Demonsteele would be better.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:55:19 No.6133107 >>6133078 BACK IN MY DAY there was a dynamic lights .pl3 you could throw in for all your wuxtra dynamic light needs I unno, GZDoom 3.6.0 just has them dynamic lights even in software mode for me

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:55:44 No.6133108 >>6133101 Friendly reminder that using any of these reanimation packs makes you a faggot for life, no turning back. Chocolate/Crispy Doom or fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:56:59 No.6133114 >>6133108 nigga u gay, smooth doom is AWESOME but you're halfway correct in that ZDoom codebase is cancer and PrBoom+ is the best source port

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:58:53 No.6133117

>>6133114
>EEEEWWWW grandpa what the fuck are these NON-SMOOTH animations that have like 4 frames of animation?? why can't DOOM be more like my modern games where you can't pin point the exact frames?? this is so unbased and cringe!
Have a little more integrity you cumstain.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 11:59:07 No.6133118 >>6133078 > console > gl_lights 1

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:00:23 No.6133120 >>6133117 Didn't you already try this last thread

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:00:34 No.6133121 File: 1.99 MB, 320x240, 1560652537538.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6133108 >mfw crispy doom with smooth doom weapons

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:01:05 No.6133123 >>6133087 I'm guessing those are cameras for the guy remote controlling the xenos.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:01:56 No.6133125 >>6133114 there's something off about the way the player moves in PrBoom, it's like the smallest detail in a map causes hangups, maybe it's just whatever complevel I'm running

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:02:37 No.6133127 >>6132938 are you retarded? Wolf Enemy Territory is FREE, FREE FOR EVERYONE AND LET NO ONE WALK AWAY UNSATISFIED RTCW is still being sold for money, but who cares about that when ET has strafe jumping Nazis

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:02:38 No.6133128 >>6133120 No. >>6133121 Smooth Doom is fucking disgusting. Last post about it I'm making.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:04:07 No.6133130 >>6133117 I will personally cum in your fresh cum socks for having shit opionions >>6133125 >zdoom babbies don't realize that's how vanilla doom works LMAO

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:08:00 No.6133131 >>6133128 you'd better

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:09:04 No.6133135
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>all of this overdone discussion about muh ports and muh grafx
>meanwhile i am just searching for mod/map combinations and recommendations

Also, Blood mapset + GMOTA is fucking amazing

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:09:37 No.6133137 >>6133130 based retard I've played every IWAD bar the shitty master levels through chocolate and I can say that movement there feels infinitely more fluid than Pr+

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:11:52 No.6133143 >>6133137 >comparing 1995 LoD to modern pwad LoD based retard

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:12:39 No.6133146 File: 143 KB, 1024x1022, lady.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6133107 >>6133118 Thanks, now how do I make the hud like that? Turning on the alternate hud didn't seem to do anything.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:12:44 No.6133147 >>6133128 What's wrong about smooth doom? Nothing wrong with giving doom a little facelift.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:13:26 No.6133149 >>6133147 nothing anon loves sweet, meaty penises

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:13:44 No.6133150 >>6133143 I still get hangups on the stock maps too you dribbling ape

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:13:46 No.6133151 >>6133147 as long as it's a tasteful facelift, Beautiful Doom goes way overboard and BFG causes Zandronum to shit itself

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:14:48 No.6133153 >>6133150 whatever you say Mr. I play iwads other than plutonia in [current year]

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:14:59 No.6133154 >>6133147 >>6133149 >lol, what if we gave the Mona Lisa a facelift, wouldn't it be neat Don't fix that ain't broken.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:15:48 No.6133158 >>6133146 > screenblocks 11 / 10 > hud_scale 1-4

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:15:55 No.6133159 ADD A CRIPPLE RNG FLAG TO GZDOOM YOU CHICKEN FUCK

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:17:31 No.6133161 >>6133130 so what you’re saying is that vanilla doom controls like absolute add and that ports objectively improve this? ok

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:18:22 No.6133163 >>6133108 HLfag is desperate

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:19:58 No.6133164 >>6133163 Nope, Quakefag.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:20:35 No.6133167 >>6133163 HLfag types like an ESL, this is just some different autist baiting other autists because it's work hours on a Tuesday and no one cares

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:21:27 No.6133170 >>6133154 Then go ahead and play Doom in it's original solution retard.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:21:55 No.6133171
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Anyone know of a mod that allows you to configure your Doom however you want? Like a bunch of extra console variables?
For example: disable all powerups, replace monster y with monster x, no armor pickups, change max health, etc.
Does something like that exist for gzdoom or other sourceports?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:22:43 No.6133173 MOP > Complex DOOM > Samsara > Brutal DOOM

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:24:19 No.6133180 >>6133167 He is the same autist who shits over /v/ doom threads with retroshit and shitting over here spreading fake garbage. its easy to notice the childish baits >>6133108 >>6133117 >>6133164 HLfag shut up, tomorrow you will be Dukefag.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:26:42 No.6133183 >>6133167 don't talk shit about ESL please

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:27:45 No.6133185 >>6133154 see >>6133170 and no always run for you

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:32:12 No.6133190 >>6132957 What's the point of a mod that makes things worse?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:33:31 No.6133192 >>6133185 >selling technical limitations of the time as a design decision Where you parents siblings anon?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:34:33 No.6133195 >>6133161 no, Boom is still Doom just with extra mapping features and no visplane limit ZDoom is not Doom, it looks like Doom and sounds like Doom (sometimes) but it plays nothing like Doom

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:39:32 No.6133201 Fuck Doom 3.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:40:03 No.6133204 >>6133190 Are you dense enough to not understand how adapting things from other games means having different balance for things like enemies and weapons, or just baiting? A mod isn't supposed to make a game "better", anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:41:25 No.6133205 >>6132429 Doom eternal 2nd trailer its out and it confirms its ol BJ the 3rd https://twitter.com/DOOM/status/1217137718322520076 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkklG9MA0vM

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:46:32 No.6133216 >>6133205 My God its disgusting. Belongs on the pile of forgettable trash like rage 2.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:50:01 No.6133225 >>6133205 >all those coom for doom comments Is this what we have becoom? I am hype for the game, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:50:07 No.6133226 >>6133201 meh it's alright missed opportunity to be a proper system shock 3 if anything, add them RPG elements

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:53:11 No.6133232 >>6133226 >missed opportunity to be a proper system shock 3 if anything I always got the impression that the devs were trying to ape Half-Life 1.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:55:34 No.6133237
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>>6133205
Wasn't everyone in the know about who he was anyways?

Also goddamn, they held back on this design. Why couldn't this be the Baron of hell?

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:58:21 No.6133245

>>6133205
They’re really sticking with the whole expanded universe that no one gives a shit about it seems, also watching the player jump over the mancubus and then fire rockets at it was laughably slow
oh well, hope the game is at least decent for a play through or two

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 12:58:51 No.6133247

>>6133232
Not that anon but I also think much more of SS2.

Game had great mood and amazing audio, and was really tense. Making Doom a bit more horror would have been great, but it came kinda meh.

I still had a good time playing doom 3.

>>6133237
Doom is just darksiders now seriously, what a disappointment.

Still would love a modern Hexen with this kind of triple A backing, Or maybe I would not.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:00:42 No.6133250 >>6133232 system shock 1 did a lot of the things half life did 4 years earlier

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:01:41 No.6133253 File: 118 KB, 404x404, pondering lizard.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6133204 >A mod isn't supposed to make a game "better", anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:02:06 No.6133254 >>6133237 Because if we go by Doom RPG Rules, Classic Barons are the Top Dogs of Hell's bodyguard and generals. https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Doom_RPG

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:06:05 No.6133261 >>6133247 It was either you or another anon who said the same thing last time Eternal was brought up. You really nailed it with that description.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:08:13 No.6133267

>>6133245
The trailers always seem to make movement appear more sluggish than it really is, like they do something to the gravity or touch it up in post, maybe in an attempt at making things easier to catch.

>>6133247
Doom has never had a consistent artstyle either way. 1 and 2 are a mishmash of visuals, 64 veered to much into gothic territory, 3 was just a mild representation of hell in its barest of senses, as was 2016. This seems to be headed more towards 64 with more fantasy elements injected into it, with certain biblical elements like the Tower of Babel thrown in.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:10:51 No.6133270 >>6133253 Newsflash: it isn't. Particularly so one that literally turns the game into another one, and not copying the mechanics verbatim. There's literally no basis to compare.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:11:00 No.6133271 File: 14 KB, 340x237, 1579025460117.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6133127 Have you realized he is talking about Quake Wars, right? Right anon?..

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:11:23 No.6133273

>>6133261
Maybe it was another anon I said it some months.

I mean it's Bethesda has to play safe, I recognize tons of trends just from what I see form eternal alone. It still might be a decent game, but nothing more than that.

At the very least I see some attempt at more intricate environments, your souls cathedral ruins, honestly I see bit of quake and Hexen here if they were made today.

I stopped caring. It's not like I will pretend Doom was ever something more.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:13:59 No.6133278

>>6133261
At least Darksiders know it's dumb and goes with it full force. Death was great character, a very lite Raziel but still.
Honestly just make a dumb fucking sci fi fantasy game, go for that fantasy Raid shadow legends money.

Man I cant wait for TES6 to be the worst fucking thing ever.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:16:13 No.6133281 >>6132362 Huh could've sworn I read about them shutting down years ago. Must've been the console version.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:16:34 No.6133283

>>6133205
I'm slightly worried. I really liked the lore in 2016, but I especially liked it because it was kind of subtly there, mostly in visual storytelling, or, if the game successfully made you care about it, you could read the textdumps, that were a pretty good read but entirely optional.

This looks like "STUFF YOUR FACE WITH MY PLOT YOU PEASANT" levels. Hopefully, it'll be somewhat sparse in the final product.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:17:59 No.6133284 >>6133273 >>6133278 you sound like a girl hasn't touched you before

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:20:17 No.6133292 >>6133284 >no criticisms of my favorite product allowed

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:20:29 No.6133293 >>6133284 Yeah, you new around here?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:23:42 No.6133304 >>6133270 >turns the game from a FPS to a FPS >too different, can't compare!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:24:01 No.6133305 >>6133283 The combat still feels weak. But maybe that is just me. I never felt like 2016 guns were impactful.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:24:02 No.6133306 >>6133292 >bethesda I mean if you're going to lay out some epic hot takes the least you could do is get your facts straight my ESL amigo

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:26:40 No.6133312 >>6133306 I know it's not Betheda, but it's Bethesda.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:27:01 No.6133313

>>6133304
That's literally the only point I'm limited to taking from your posts because you refuse to actually say anything worth arguing over. I'm literally laying things out for you and you're scurrying about with whatever comes to mind first, so fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:34:16 No.6133330 File: 132 KB, 295x295, you.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6133158 Thank you so much

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:35:05 No.6133332 >>6132691 Low test.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:35:25 No.6133334 >The new trailer is full of third person cutscenes >Most people outside of this place think it looks amazing Oh for fucks sake. The guns look fun but I'm not interested in Doom pretending to be fucking Darksiders.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:35:53 No.6133336

>>6133313
>I'm literally laying things out for you
Laying what? The only things you've said is that the mod makes the game "too different" to be able to compare it to anything and that mods aren't supposed to make the game better anyway. Those are both incredibly retarded things to say.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:38:01 No.6133342 >>6133204 >A mod isn't supposed to make a game "better", anon. Maximum retard.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:38:08 No.6133343 >>6133271 no, not at all if it's Quake Wars he's after, then you're fucked the game isn't free, and it isn't for sale either

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:41:29 No.6133348

>>6133334
It’s funny how they made it a point to have D44M play out entirely in the first person perspective, but then they decided to change it for Eternal because ???
Honestly, DE just seems like a bunch of dudes came together and said “let’s think of cool things we can add into the game without any rhyme or reason” and the result is the trailer they just released

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:42:33 No.6133350 >>6133205 >it confirms its ol BJ the 3rd Where? Just recently completed TNO trilogy, after that I REALLY don't want doomguy to be connected to that mess of a character nuBJ in any way.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:43:05 No.6133351 >>6133348 >DE I would play the shit out of Digital Extremes' version of nu-Doom

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:46:34 No.6133362 File: 371 KB, 752x2048, Id Timeline Paradox blame BJ and jewish tech.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6133350 Nu Wolf is the new timeline created after a paradox, The SlayerGuy is from the original timeline

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:47:17 No.6133364
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>>6132964
>back in 1995, Sandy Petersen had been making games for a long time and was an RPG dictionary. He knew so much, even back then! I walked up to his desk and told him Raven Software had finished the Hexen add-on levels we were going to sell, but they need a name. I said I wanted a name that sounded like a cool D&D module. He immediately said, “How about Deathkings of the Dark Citadel?” Done. This is the kind of environment I’ve loved working in.
That lines up.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:47:24 No.6133365 >>6133350 Anon, Doomguy is a direct descendant of Wolf3D BJ.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:47:38 No.6133367 >>6133348 muh epic, cinematic experience get ready to Fight Like Hell in March!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:47:56 No.6133368 >>6133348 >let’s think of cool things we can add into the game without any rhyme or reason I thought that was what Doom16 was.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:48:02 No.6133369

>>6133336
You've done this once already, saying how being able to mantle and jump in the air "are mechanics that are inferior to Quake" like that's not the stupidest, most unwarranted and arrogant fucking thing anyone could say about the mod, as if it wasn't able to stand on its own as it has its own maps and enemy/weapon balance to compliment the player's mobility. We've been over that and you never responded to my last post.

Second, I responded to you saying "mods are meant to make the game better" as if that were a rule set in stone. When mods can be literally anything they want to be, from bringing maps to carrying over different playstyles entirely despite their quality. Is Nature's Call making Doom a better game?

Honestly you've either got some beef with the creator of this mod or you're looking to shit on it for whatever reason, and whichever of the two it is, you're wasting my time and your own.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:50:33 No.6133372 >>6133367 uh, actually it’s Raze Hell, it’s a very clever nod to the enemy introduced in DOOM (2016) which was called the Hellrazer, which could be misconstrued as Hellraiser, which may actually be a double reference. Very clever.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:51:25 No.6133374 >>6133365 I will never accept that idea.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:52:46 No.6133376

>>6133348
>“let’s think of cool things we can add into the game without any rhyme or reason”

When that is the case and there is no clear direction it can go very right or very wrong. Or just forgettable.
It looks really boring but its still better than most modern fps.

It's not like indies are making something better, I was falling asleep playing Wrath.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:52:54 No.6133378 >>6133374 Ok

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:54:01 No.6133381 >>6133348 I think the 3rd person cutscenes are loading screens disguised as cinematics using the in-game engine. I don't know how that would make sense other than maybe they're making them skippable too.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:56:05 No.6133385 >>6133362 >>6133365 Thank god. Wolf3D/RtcW BJ is fine. Where does Doom 3 go, by the way? Another unrelated universe? Slayer's black hair confirms nothing, but this fanservice got me, heh.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:57:08 No.6133390 >>6133385 I always figured Doom 3 was its own setting. I actually don't even like the idea of Doomslayer being the same guy as original Doomguy either.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:58:42 No.6133394 >>6133385 Doom 3 is just some universe Hell tried to invade, but they got btfo by Maureen.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 13:58:42 No.6133395 >>6133367 >>6133372 that was very funny. thank you for posting this >>6133385 does he have black hair really? seemed just obscured

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:01:03 No.6133406

The new trailer actually made me feel sad.
This is what Doom is now, a bunch of fucking third person cutscenes and shitty set pieces with WORDS WORDS WORDS.
And the normalfags think its the best thing they've ever seen.
For just one minute I thought they were going to pull a Doom 2016 and surprise us all. Fuck this thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:02:25 No.6133412 >>6133395 It looks too dark to tell.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:02:52 No.6133414
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>>6133369
>When mods can be literally anything they want to be
Yeah, including bad. I don't know why you would expect this particular mod to be immune to criticism or take personal issue with someone having a negative opinion of it, but here we are. This is clearly far more important to you than it is to me and I don't care enough to keep engaging in a pointless back and forth over whose opinion is right.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:03:26 No.6133417 >>6133406 Weren’t 3rd person cutscenes in Doom 3?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:03:38 No.6133419 >>6133406 Could be worse anon.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:05:15 No.6133423

>>6133406
It was clearly entirely done using bits from cutscenes that are meant to be evened out throughout the game that you could probably skip, so I don't see what the fault is in making them add to the story. Knowing the devs you will be able to blaze through the maps no problem either way.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:11:46 No.6133440 >>6133414 Yeah, I definitely have a trouble with you expressing your opinion, not with why you have that opinion. Clearly asking you to elaborate on "new thing bad" is above your mental capacity. My mistake.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:12:58 No.6133442
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Andrew Hulshult is an overrated hack and nobody can convince me otherwise. It pisses me off that every fucking indie dev who wants to make a retro FPS automatically go to him for the soundtrack, since it makes the games seem even more same-y and less inspired than they already are.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:20:46 No.6133457 >>6133394 the Marauder Looks like Doom 3 RoE marine

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:22:43 No.6133459
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>>6132428
Since the Heretic mapping project seems to be abandoned, I've uploaded my map to the Archive. It replaces the secret level (E1M9) with jumping / crouch enabled. I also included maps made by two other project members, skul and whirledtsar. These maps deserved to be played and I figured bundling them up in this archive was the best solution. More details can be found on the archive page and in the "README / commentary" files.

Too all the others who mapped for this project, I encourage you to share what you made. No matter how broken it may be, Its better to have an unfinished map than no map at all.

I could be totally wrong about the state of this project, but it seems like it will never be finished, unfortunately.

https://archive.org/details/vrheretic

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:30:09 No.6133479

>>6133423
>It was clearly entirely done using bits from cutscenes that are meant to be evened out throughout the game that you could probably skip
This. Plus I don't know what's been shown in this trailer that was perceived as so different from everything else that they've shown thus far, or so baffling that people act as if the game would suffer as a result given their clear intentions to making the game all about how it plays at its core. I don't expect A grade storytelling, but I also don't know a plot for a Doom game that blew me away either. Lore I'm indifferent towards, but it's there for those who want it and it doesn't really take away from the rest of the components.

Same goes for the artstyle. It is, at the very least, leagues above the colorwashed, boring pablum of green noise that was 2016's and certainly more visually distinctive than its base maps.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:31:21 No.6133484 >>6133459 I was gonna release E1M6 on its own when I finished it, whenever that was (haven't touched it in a while)

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:31:52 No.6133485 >>6133457 Maybe he is.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:34:10 No.6133493 >2016 >wtf the movement is slow in all the trailers >2020 >wtf all these cutscenes in all the cinematic trailers When will you all learn

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:35:00 No.6133496 File: 2.43 MB, 2319x1467, 1550385601493.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6132972 >Hexen Don't fucking get my hopes up, Romero.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:35:44 No.6133501 >the crucible is just the chainsaw again Most dissapointing part of the trailer

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:36:28 No.6133505 I dont see whats so horrible about third-person cutscenes. Like, who cares. It doesnt change the actual gameplay. And dont say "immersion" or something like that. Its not like I felt I really was Doomguy in the first-person cutscenes.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:37:29 No.6133506

Question for doomseeker/z& users.

If I want to play a server that I like single player, is there any way to easily find all the mods they used in my mod folder for doomseeker? Or do I have to mouse over that unformatted monstrosity of a list in the server list and go into my folder myself and pick them out one by one

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:40:30 No.6133517 >>6133459 Damn that looks cool. How come the project didn't come to fruition?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:42:11 No.6133521 >>6133493 gamers deserves suffering for incessant bitching, mainly newfags.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:44:31 No.6133530

>>6133506
use the "show command line" option when you right click on the server, and get rid of the "-connect <ip:port>" part
there, that's the command line you can use to run the stuff on the server, though you'll still need to set up cvars and the like

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:50:59 No.6133548

>>6133459
That is cool but I actually already released my map - in a further updated/polished form - elsewhere: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/110965-heretic-map-tgngciaop/
>>6133517
It wasnt anywhere near finished by the planned deadline - which couldve been recovered, but for whatever reason the project coordinator went ghost.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:54:13 No.6133559 >>6133501 But the chainsaw is already in the game.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 14:58:08 No.6133571 File: 493 KB, 120x261, slow jerk.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6133406 >trailer showing the cutscenes >IT'S OVER BROS! THE GAMEPLAY IS GONE AND IT'S ALL CINEMATIC NOW!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 15:01:16 No.6133580 >>6132428 why is cacodemon so cute bros?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 15:02:08 No.6133585 >>6133484 My bad man, If you don't want it in the archive i'll take it down. It seemed like a completed map to me. >>6133548 Noice! I didn't realize you uploaded your map elsewhere, I'll update the archive with a link to your thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 15:04:54 No.6133592 >>6133585 nope, there's still the green key void area that's unfinished, as well as the exit section which hasn't been started at all (which will be simpler without the need for a secret exit, at least)

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 15:05:36 No.6133594 >>6133442 I wouldn't call him a hack, but I would call him overrated.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 15:07:05 No.6133598 >>6133548 that name sure is very DW never change

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 15:12:12 No.6133612 >>6133594 He did a great job with the ROTT 2013 soundtrack but his original work really fails to move me. The music in Dusk & Amid Evil is just okay background noise.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 15:21:10 No.6133630

>>6133612
I disagree with your opinion on Amid Evil, I found most of them to be quite memorable. Also his work in Quake Champions is really good too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pun7nfqnIJM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9k9zCH2muQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHIvSVL6SM0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJo425kXbdM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCFYBaGzlFc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1qM4TTrDcI

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 15:21:34 No.6133631 >>6133612 He completely butchered Oww.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 15:24:59 No.6133640

>>6133440
Let's see. The HAR micro missiles alt fire is completely useless, the rocket launcher alt fire is completely useless, the shotgun mortar alt fire is a less fun grenade launcher since you can't bounce it around corners. On "muh speed", the enemies are notably less mobile than they were in Doom16 and I highly doubt that will change due to engine limitations, imps don't jump around and overall just stand there waiting to be shot, same as soldiers. The new zombies only exist to stand still and be killed, Quake zombies at least had a ranged attack and could only be killed by gibbing them, giving them at least a small measure of complexity. The hell knight is a fiend that just perpetually chases after you instead of jumping/lunging at you, the fiend behavior gives you a clear window to dodge and reposition before it turns around and lunges at you again, while the hell knight just beelines for you forever which just means backpedaling in circles. Lost souls are less annoying than the spawn I guess. On movement, mantling is a misguided attempt at borrowing a mechanic from cinematic platformers that exists to add realism, weight, and deliberate clunk to climbing over obstacles, all of that completely flies in the face of the WOW SOFAST gameplay, likewise double jumping is a platformer mechanic whose nuances are completely wasted on a FPS, specially one that does not concern itself with platforming. If you really want to let the player reach high places just increase the base jump height, or design the map adequately.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 15:27:22 No.6133646
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Here it is folks, hopefully this is the final version of the new video.

Solved the leftover ghosting, re-recorded the soundfont section to use E1M1 instead of Map 9, added a small note for the SC-55 pack, corrected typos and messed a bit with the audio levels so the DM section wont sound muffled.
Please tell me if I overdid it with the sound balancing.

Man rendering these is a pain, its barely eight minutes long and it took one hour and forty minutes to process.
In any case, this should go live in a couple of hours, in the meantime I left it unlisted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISSTfix7-iA&feature=youtu.be

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 15:29:00 No.6133650

>>6133646
Another thing I should note, I noticed some small errors on the soundfont section with the animations not going all the way to the edges of the screen, its pretty minor and I'd rather not render the video again but just in case you notice it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 15:29:27 No.6133651 >>6133592 Would you mind if I kept that version of the map in the collection? I feel that these maps should be kept together for archival reasons, a permanent record of a lost project. I could update the files whenever you finish up e1m6.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 15:30:22 No.6133653 >>6133646 >>6132429

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 15:31:12 No.6133658
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I didn't know Doom Builder was a thing and trashed a wad I was making because it would've taken for-fucking-ever to make. I haven't made a doom wad in over 20 years, I'm a bit blown away by the developments.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 15:37:28 No.6133673 >>6133646 >Eager Beaver every time who the fuck thought of putting that on the chainsaw

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 15:43:07 No.6133689 File: 1.11 MB, 1920x1080, cacos.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] alternative thumbnail

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 15:52:54 No.6133698 >>6132428 >2020 >Still using google drive for WADs, PK3s, Quake and Build mods.instead of Dropbox, Tor Network hidden sites, Freenet, or Onedrive.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 15:53:40 No.6133701 >>6133571 Cannot fucking stand Doomsayers. They so desperately want to be mad at literally nothing.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 15:58:52 No.6133715 >>6133698 >Tor Network hidden sites, Freenet What? Why?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 15:59:26 No.6133716 >>6133651 yeah sure, I can just put it on the discord then so you don't miss it

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:01:30 No.6133721 >>6133701 You are right. Videogames are nothing in 2020.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:04:20 No.6133729 >>6133646 https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=63863

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:04:37 No.6133731 >>6133715 ignore him, he comes in every once in a while to complain about the lack of torrents but never follows up on it after people call him a faggot.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:06:51 No.6133741

>>6133640
This makes matters much clearer.
>HAR micro missiles alt fire is completely useless
Noted, they can be gimmicky but can still be used to quickly dispatch lowly units or pepper them across a general area.
> the rocket launcher alt fire is completely useless
Noted as well, the triple burst would've been a better fit.
>shotgun mortar alt fire is a less fun grenade launcher since you can't bounce it around corners
That's why you had grenades as a separate equipment item in 2016. The explosive shot is for dealing high damage to make up for the shotgun's spread at a distance, getting a perfectly arced shot is quick, satisfying, deals higher DMG and can deal additional damage to nearby units. Cases in which you would need to prep an actual shot around corners in this mod are null.
>imps don't jump around and overall just stand there waiting to be shot
They work more as sniping/stationary turrets in ST, but also some of the imps on 2016 would stick to a general area to get potshots at you on the arenas, and seeing how ST has both traditional and arena combat, the more limited mobility is a middleground.
>The new zombies only exist to stand still and be killed
They operate as fodder to quickly regain health in the heat of battle, but they could be swapped out for the armed variant to make them at least a threat in some form, I concur. The reason they come in groups is so that if you close in you'll most likely get slapped around as you target one of the bunch. They have surprisingly long range.
>Quake zombies at least had a ranged attack and could only be killed by gibbing them, giving them at least a small measure of complexity
That always seemed more of a tired gimmick. You have plenty grenades, so if you accidentally picked at a lone zombie at a distance, waiting for it to rise again so you could kill it would completely disrupt the pace and was virtually useless.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:07:35 No.6133746 >>6133701 Its shitters like these who makes me hate the word "GAMERS" even more, and why all of them deserves suffering.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:10:01 No.6133754

(cont.)
>The hell knight is a fiend that just perpetually chases after you instead of jumping/lunging at you,
Pressure units. Dispatch them quickly or run around forever getting mauled by stray claws.
>the fiend
Could also be easily baited and aggroed, hell knights don't disrupt the pace of the combat as much by obligating you to focus on their attacks first and foremost as they're not as much of an immediate threat but they can corner you if not careful, akin to the classic pinky. (this is inline with their behavior in 2016.)
>mantling is a misguided attempt at borrowing a mechanic from cinematic platformers that exists to add realism, weight, and deliberate clunk to climbing over obstacles,
Mantling I will agree is misused heavily in ST. Whereas in 2016 it was employed as tool for exploration and mobility during combat by allowing you to reach higher ground, in ST it doesn't see much use outside of ledges that are *just* out of reach. That's not the way you do it.
>double jumping is a platformer mechanic whose nuances are completely wasted on a FPS, specially one that does not concern itself with platforming
It allows you to clear gaps in a shorter time such as is the case in the arena fight on the tutorial, and to sort out incoming projectile damage by remaining airborne in addition to strafing, as is the case with the cyberdemon who happens to be taller, so much so that he aims down at you looking to deal splash damage instead of aiming in a straight line
>If you really want to let the player reach high places just increase the base jump height, or design the map adequately.
A second jump you can time and use whenever will always be more reliable than a single jump enemies can easily time your fall on.

Better/worse than Quake? On a mechanical level, it is only missing the stray grenade lobs from ogres that would demand more attention from the player, but outside of that you're really getting Doom with more options for traversal and a HK skin for the Pinky.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:12:50 No.6133762 >>6133571 >>6133746 So I guess people want Doom to be Halo now. How wonderful.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:13:59 No.6133767 >>6133762 >durr halo 2015 is here again

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:15:07 No.6133770 What are the hottest wads for 2020?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:15:13 No.6133771 >>6133762 >Muh Halo Obsessed!

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:17:15 No.6133776

>>6133385
>>6133390
Doom 3 was a retelling of Doom 1 storyline.
One Marine is sent to Mars, all hell breaks loose, Everyone except Marine dies. Marine shoots demons until they die.

If we accept D'16 "multiverse" as canon, then D3 is an alternative universe, otherwise it's should be at the same place as Doom 1 just with more graphics and story.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:18:48 No.6133781 >>6133762 >>6133406 >a bloo bloo bloo they've "ruined" doom this isn't /v/ you dumb faggot, shut the fuck up. new shit for classic doom is practically released daily. nothing is ruined. fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:20:17 No.6133782 File: 1.27 MB, 320x240, 8EAyms.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6133762

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:27:41 No.6133797 If i made some music and want to kill some demons through say episode 1 of doom how would I go about doing that? Would it require slade?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:30:10 No.6133804 >>6133797 god, how did I fuck that up so badly I made a few songs, and I want my songs to play during episode 1 of doom instead of the ost, how do I go about doing that

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:33:34 No.6133809 File: 1.39 MB, 800x800, deepfried_1577835948117.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6133721 >>6133406 >>6133746 >>6133771 Bickering went make things better.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:41:36 No.6133829 >>6133797 What format are your songs in?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:41:50 No.6133830 >>6133809 *never made

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:43:40 No.6133837 >>6133809 Okay so let's look at some positive aspects from eternal.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:45:18 No.6133839 >>6133837 Can't wait for you to shoot them down with your superior cynical outlook on things as frail as people enjoying a fucking videogame.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:46:50 No.6133840 >>6133746 If you hate gamers nowadays, why the FUCK ARE YOU still here!? Go piss, moan, groan and screech over at /b/, /r9k/ or /qa/!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:47:09 No.6133842 >>6133837 it's going to be a great base for modders to make something better with :o)

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:47:54 No.6133845 >>6133839 Cynical=/=logical or reasonable.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:48:46 No.6133849 >>6133840 based boomer

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:49:04 No.6133850 >>6133845 Logical and reasonable =/= cynical, either.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:49:08 No.6133852 Ion Fury = shit Agree?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:50:07 No.6133856 >>6133852 Yes. Game designers have no vision. They are as flaccid as the times they live in.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:50:19 No.6133857 >>6133842 >>6133837 Cutscenes in 3rd person were already a thing in Doom 3, dipshit. Cutscenes in a video game does not automatically make it equatable to low-end stuff like Night Trap, Death Switch, or Corpse Killer.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:51:23 No.6133862 >>6133852 Meh in my book.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:51:41 No.6133863 >>6133857 I am not the anon saying the game had 3d person cutscenes. IN fact if it has does not matter that much. Game just looks fucking dumb.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:51:45 No.6133864 >>6133837 The actual shooting looks fun.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:52:34 No.6133867 >>6133837 Oh, and the gunplay appears to be decent at least. Look if its not your cup of tea, fine. You are allowed to not buy it.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:54:05 No.6133869

>>6133864
I also like the Hexeny and quake aspects, because it's very clear they dont want to make simple Doom human amrine fighting the hordes of hell they want badass 40k marine fighting demons form outer space.

>>6133867
The gore still looks like your are shooting at cakes, I really didn't like how soft the guns feel in Doom 2016.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:58:00 No.6133876 >>6133856 >Game designers have no vision Yep, that's the problem. A little bit from Doom, a little bit from Duke, a little bit from Blood, and the end result was a scatterbrained clustershit with zero character and identity.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:58:35 No.6133878 >>6133869 Okay then. Go back to playing Doom 3.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 16:59:23 No.6133880 >>6133809 >>6133840 what nigger? im pissed off with retards claiming that the game is RUINED FOREVER like a bunch of fucking sissies who didn't even played Doom 2 on GBA. Eternal will be great, its my 2nd buy if everything goes right along with RE3R.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:03:42 No.6133892 >>6133852 Yea, it's so shallow and soulless compared to other Build engine games

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:03:48 No.6133893 >>6133829 whatever I want, I take it modern doom allows for wav? If not, mp3 is fine.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:04:17 No.6133896

>>6133837
>The added mobility with the dashes and the SSG hook, means the combat will be harder this go around. The mars core demo proved the game could be a challenge on that aspect even with the upgrades+extra lives
>The destructible demons system is cool as shit
>The chaingun, plasma rifle, and shotgun seem a lot more viable as worktools of their own insteead of solely depending on the altfires
>The extra lives system means they can go all out with boning the player on all difficulty levels on equal amounts. They 1ups just give bad players another go at sucking less, and they'll either be made scarcer/absent from higher difficulties altogether
>The way they're incorporating heaven into the plotline gives them a chance to explore other enemy types. Doom was never about realism or sticking to the bible's representation of literal hell, and had free reign with its own style and what they wanted to include
>The presence of recurring bosses and multiple cyberdemons, with the chance of multimple masterminds making an appereance
>They seem to be going all out with their level traps and hazards, makes it feel like the level is bent on killing the player and not just what's populating it
>The HUB area seems like it will lend itself to nonlinear progression
>In addition to the scenario of the game performing well, lore means drawing more people in = more content in general
>The possibility of modding tools is a prospect of its own
>Maps seem to be aesthetically and tonally varied overall, hell is no longer a boring spiky desert
>MP is no longer a Halo clone

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:04:17 No.6133897 Official "rank the Ultimate Doom episode (Sigil included)" questionaire starts now. My take: E1 > E5 >>>>>>>>>>>> E2 > E4 (because of Romero only) > shit > E3

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:05:10 No.6133902 >>6133852 No, it as amazing.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:05:45 No.6133904 >>6133845 That was my point.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:06:44 No.6133905 Is there anything resembling a concensus on who the best and/or worst of the original Doom mapmakers are?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:08:33 No.6133913 >>6133852 Not shit, but also not as good as anything it was inspired by.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:11:20 No.6133915 >>6133731 >torrents while I wouldn't mind that personally, I can understand if torrents won't come to this thread. Still, why not give Tor storage, Freenet, or OneDrive a chance?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:11:36 No.6133916 >>6133896 I heard the new id tech engine actually got rid of mega textures, so mods might actually be possible this time around.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:12:38 No.6133920 >>6133852 Disagree.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:19:35 No.6133928

>>6133913
That honestly equals shit when you try to resurrect an old gaming engine. In this case, you has to outdo everything prior to be seen in the gaming map. Ion Fury failed and now the Build community is more dead than ever before.

Ion Fury has technically advanced maps, some nice comic book graphics, a very long mission, elaborated weapons, bosses and such. So it's not a shit game like Tekwar or whatever.

It's shit because it doesn't inspire anyone to play or use the Build engine. It's the typical okayish game, it has those ideas from here, from there, from everywhere, woohoo, "Thy Flesh Consumed" reference, woohoo, you can kick the head like in Blood, woohoo "Pigs are Cops", but that's it. No character, no inspiration, no theme, generic, PC, Build porn homework and nothing else.

I'm sad. I wanted it to be a great game. But fuck, it's so fucking shit, I hate it with passion.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:23:00 No.6133936 >>6133842 Did anyone ever made something for Doom16?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:23:48 No.6133937 >>6133928 Kill yourself, faggot, IF was fucking great.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:24:41 No.6133938 >>6133928 Pretty much. At least Amid Evil and Dusk tried.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:25:15 No.6133939

>>6133869
>I really didn't like how soft the guns feel in Doom 2016
THIS. The fact that the weapons have so little feedback makes them feel weak as fuck. One thing I'll give Brutal Doom is that it managed to make gunplay satisfying in ways that nu-Doom never could.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:25:16 No.6133940

>>6133905
>consensus
BWAHAHA
You'll get opinions, and mixed ones.

To me, Sandy Petersen ties with John Romero, because while Romero made some of the best maps, he made few of them, and Sandy by sheer volume have just made way more maps, most which are pretty good (even if just a few are on the level of The Living End).
American McGee wasn't too prolific with Doom, but he did some really good levels there too, however he didn't really start shining until Quake, where he plain knocked it out of the park.

That leaves Tim Willits, who in spite of being a massive blowhard with an ego inversely proportional to his stature, did some alright maps for Doom, but even then he did way better for Quake. I guess you also have Shawn Green, but he did just a couple of maps, and some pretty weak ones.
In one way, Tom Hall just barely counts, because so much of his work was binned, but he does actually share considerable credit with Romero and Sandy for a lot of their maps, using some of his best scraps to make some of their better maps.

You have John 'Dr. Sleep' Anderson, who did one map for E4, and god rest his soul, but I don't think that was one of his better ones. I will argue (compared to just that level) that he did a far better service to the community at large for being part of Doom Builder's development, writing up the thorough beginner's guide, Doom Builder was the best thing since sliced bread back when it came out, and it's only kept getting better, and his guide got people off the ground with their mapping.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:28:06 No.6133947 >>6133896 >destructible demons Was done in Vivisector before.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:29:33 No.6133952 >>6133939 I can see some weapons feeling soft in Doom 4, but the super shotgun, chainsaw, micro rockets, and railgun, they all felt pretty good. Could be a little better, but they weren't bad.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:32:35 No.6133957

>>6133852
Maps take way too fucking long to clear out. Episodic in format, but no separation meaning you can't wrap up an episode and leave it at that. Secret hunting is strictly a mess and the game overall is visually cluttered to shit. Things are seldomly hard to make out at a glance. Grossly overdetailed textures and environments, samey techbase and city maps. Sewers, sewers, sewers. A rocket launcher was sorely missed. Enemy variety ranges from "okay" to "annoying hyperactive monkey that shells out tons of damage". Overuse of hitscan enemies. Overuse of swarm-type enemies. Overuse of backtracking. Overuse of Shelly's umemorable, oatmeal-bland one-liners.

7/10, a decent romp for one time alone and then never again. Really if anything, it shines a light on the balancing act that was the old FPS scene. Keyhunting is tedious if done wrong. Maps can turn boring and tedious if draw out for too long, "hardcore FPS game design w LOTS OF ENEMIES THAT DEAL TONS OF DAMAGE!!!" is a cliché. This game is what happens when you have a basic notion of how everything works but have no one on the team tell you to keep a clear vision and help trim down the fat.

>>6133947
Not to the extent D:E seems to be taking it. Still a fun little game.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:37:42 No.6133961 File: 60 KB, 1024x575, IMG_20200115_081749.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The Doomslayer is the marine from Doom 3

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:39:39 No.6133964 >>6133893 Yeah, if you're using Zdoom then most everything will work, just take whatever song you want and rename it to whatever map you want it to play on.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:42:10 No.6133971 >>6133961 His facial structure is nothing like the Doom 3 marine.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:42:12 No.6133972 >>6133936 D4D D4T D4V

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>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:55:38 No.6133998 >>6133863 sure thing jose

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:57:22 No.6134001 >>6133250 Like?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 17:57:46 No.6134004 >>6133972 For, not from.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 18:05:20 No.6134014 >>6133414 WHEN'S RENCHON.WAD

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 18:07:11 No.6134017 >>6133852 No. Good game. Stands on its own. Fuck you.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 18:11:41 No.6134026 >>6133897 E1 > E2 > E3 >>>>> E4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E5 fuck romero's levels

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 18:13:01 No.6134028 >>6134026 Wasn't E1 all Romero levels or close to it tho?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 18:14:23 No.6134029 >>6134028 fuck romero's levels that where like e4m2 the rest where ok

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 18:16:02 No.6134034 >>6134026 E1>E5>E2>>>>>>>>>>>E4>E3

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 18:16:57 No.6134038 File: 19 KB, 460x317, duk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I GOT THE BALLS OF STEVE

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 18:25:35 No.6134051 >>6133892 OLD GOOD NEW BAD

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 18:27:35 No.6134057 Can someone explain to me the difference between LZDoom and GZDoom? I've been using PRBoom and GZDoom for years but I've started using Delta Touch on my phone and noticed it there

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 18:30:02 No.6134063 >>6133689 >the boys are back

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 18:36:17 No.6134074 >>6134057 I think LZD is being touted as "GZ but for lower end computers," but I don't know if it's like a Zdoom replacement or something

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 18:38:32 No.6134076 >>6133897 >>6134034 we can agree Inferno sucks

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>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 18:42:06 No.6134084 >>6134076 No we cannot.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 18:42:26 No.6134085 >>6132482 ShadowLink's Samsara monster set and Gerardo/Erick from Doomworld's both the RPG projects and the 64 enemies stuff

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 18:43:36 No.6134091 File: 1.01 MB, 1200x1578, 78812114_p3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6134078 I really like this dude's style, made a burner pixiv just to download his stuff, but I couldn't find this one by just searching through his work

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 18:47:24 No.6134103 >>6134091 Mind sharing your folder of his stuff?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 18:49:04 No.6134104 >>6133237 >Doesn't bleed green

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 18:51:29 No.6134110

>>6133381
didn't god of war 18 also did the cutscenes as loading sequences too?
that probably won't work in later hardware that loads stuff faster, IF it ever happens
something HL did right it just having the game load in the form of a frozen shot, so in later machines, it's quick and keeps the "one single shot" illusion better

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 18:51:48 No.6134112 >>6134091 >>6134103 He uploads to Twitter, Substance20

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 18:56:25 No.6134126 >>6133837 i hope that one creature with red rings in their hands in the icon of sin fuck "the titan", that's just a boring giant thing

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 18:57:47 No.6134128 >>6133971 >>6133961 He's gonna be both, isn't he? >MetaDoom confirmed canon

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 18:57:49 No.6134129 >>6133381 There were both cinematics and load screens in the demos.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:04:19 No.6134142 >>6134103 https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/18617250 his whole account http://www.mediafire.com/folder/aqgpjvjb7kba4/FPS most of his FPS stuff

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:07:44 No.6134145 >>6134076 agreed

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:09:21 No.6134147 >>6134078 >>6134091 They are goddamn awesome

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:12:12 No.6134153 >>6134112 >>6134142 Thanks

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:13:33 No.6134157 File: 2.42 MB, 1200x1587, 78847351_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6134142 >Metal Wang Solid Nice

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:17:26 No.6134163 File: 101 KB, 600x455, AA5801CB-B842-429E-B0F0-D442284098F6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6134142 >INTRUDER

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:19:00 No.6134169 >>6134157 Who want some Wang?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:23:15 No.6134174 hey, does the co-op mode of Doom II supports more than 2 players? Trying to figure out if it would work for me and all my friends at once.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:23:27 No.6134175 Half life is the only good retro fps.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:25:48 No.6134178 >>6134174 I think that vanilla doom supports 4 players, but if you're using something like odamex or zandro, it could probably be set to any arbitrary number

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:29:31 No.6134180

>>6133741
>>6133754
>The explosive shot is for dealing high damage to make up for the shotgun's spread at a distance, getting a perfectly arced shot is quick, satisfying, deals higher DMG and can deal additional damage to nearby units
I mean, you could just use the rocket launcher which does exactly that. I like it when guns have clearly defined roles instead of making each other redundant.
>That always seemed more of a tired gimmick.
Zombies can be placed in enclosed spaces forcing players to bounce shots around corners to kill them without being hit by the splash damage, you could also use them without giving the player a weapon to kill them, perhaps forcing the player to "waste" ammo knocking them down or just dealing with the constant rain of gibs. I'm not saying they're the most brilliantly designed enemies ever but you can clearly see they've some use to them, rather that being slightly inconvenient healthpacks.
>hell knight
I always thought the pinky was one of the least interesting enemies in Doom, the only thing they've got going for them is that they're more prone to infighting, but the hell knight is both much faster and more determined to stay on the player. One thing I liked about Doom is that, if you're not speedrunning, it isn't actually about gofast, there was a lot of measured movements, trying not to get cornered, negotiating around projectiles, mentally keeping track of enemies outside your point of view, ducking behind scenery to avoid certain attacks. Doom16, and ST by extension, are too fast for that, they just want you to run, to keep moving, just run no matter were, never stop. The hell knight "pinky" is the embodiment of that. Also with regards to ST having "traditional" combat in addition to arenas, I doubt the hell knight would play well in small spaces and narrow hallways.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:33:16 No.6134183 File: 294 KB, 1920x1080, 20200115025253_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] freindly reminder Painkiller (2004) > Doom (2016)

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:34:56 No.6134187 >>6134001 Play it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:35:48 No.6134191 >>6134183 I played a few levels of painkiller and didn't like it, felt like Serious Sam but less fun.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:36:37 No.6134194 >>6134187 It's nothing like hl.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:40:30 No.6134203 File: 18 KB, 800x600, typical HL fan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:40:55 No.6134204 >>6133250 Half-Life has better shooting.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:41:17 No.6134205 >>6133086 That's actually hilarious and seriously what they should have done.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:41:54 No.6134207 >>6134194 I liked it a lot, but the expansion/sequel was fucking terrible. The main character was annoyance manifest.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:46:22 No.6134213 File: 1.14 MB, 480x272, Blood -- losing, yet winning.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:47:31 No.6134216 File: 2.95 MB, 640x360, Blood II is horrible.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:48:26 No.6134218 File: 126 KB, 450x500, 1549335850536.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6133880 >caring this much about what people on an imageboard say >and getting ass-pained about it too

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:50:12 No.6134226 >>6134183 Doom 2016 was a better arena shooter t b h

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 19:59:48 No.6134240 >>6134216 to think that gabriella went on to voice Ivy and All dunmer race in TES

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 20:00:00 No.6134241 >>6134226 >arena shooter I don't think it means what you think it means unless you have a time machine that is: https://youtu.be/b56dp-EdnYE?t=1205

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 20:06:02 No.6134250 >>6134178 i see, which of the two source ports do you think would be easier to setup?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 20:11:03 No.6134263 File: 332 KB, 811x700, vertical aiming.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6134091 izzat actually unironically inked with a pen

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 20:17:16 No.6134280 >>6133842 and nobody will make anything because hd just take too much work look at doom 3, it has like... 1 mod?

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 20:19:14 No.6134287
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>>6133646
>the video got partially claimed for the MIDI song at the end

can they even do that? should I contest it?
eh, whatever, you can have the three whole cents that thing is going to make

Anyways, video is live now, let the chips fall where they may.
Thank you again anons.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 20:23:05 No.6134293 Whats up with PRBoom+ compatability with Sigil? If I use _COMPAT it gets rid of Inferno and replaces it with Sigil but still works

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 20:23:29 No.6134294 File: 47 KB, 960x720, 1540173362059.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >sunlust and high noon drifter

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 20:27:47 No.6134303

>>6134250
I think Zandro is the easier of the two, all you need to do is open a server through the top left toolbar, and it will broadcast to LAN. I'm not too well-versed in this stuff, so reading the wiki will probably do you good.
https://wiki.zandronum.com/Creating_a_Game_Server

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 20:29:57 No.6134307 >>6134303 alright, i'll try it. thanks

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 20:32:03 No.6134310 >>6132482 Adventures of Square Episode 3

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 20:42:49 No.6134331 >>6133905 Only real consensus is that Romero is considered the best. Only a very small minority would say otherwise. Every other id level designer, you'll see varying opinions.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 20:59:51 No.6134353 >>6134293 It replaces inferno instead of being the 5th episode, because PrBoom+ doesn't support mapinfo.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 21:13:44 No.6134373 File: 58 KB, 440x332, Puny piece of shit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] AHAH AHAHAHAHAHAH

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 21:18:58 No.6134379 >>6134373 the absolute state of pistol starters

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 21:22:49 No.6134381 >>6134373 I giggled like a madman at this for whatever reason.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 21:24:22 No.6134382 >>6134373 I wonder why they went with this sprite when there was a better one that went unused

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 21:26:23 No.6134385 >>6134373 no bulli

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 21:27:00 No.6134386 >>6133897 >>6134026 >>6134034 Hmmmm. Other than E4M1 and E4M9, I actually liked E4 the most.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 21:27:44 No.6134387 >>6134373 my poor beretta

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 21:31:55 No.6134393 File: 348 KB, 665x329, plane.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] according to doom eternal, hell did 9/11

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 21:43:48 No.6134404 >>6134373 he cute

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 21:48:44 No.6134414 >>6134393 It looks like the plane just teleported.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 21:55:38 No.6134421 >>6133852 yes bland tranny as its main character

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 21:57:37 No.6134425 are we mainly in agreement that the weird story halo cutscene stuff feels forced and somewhat cringeworthy?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 22:00:25 No.6134432 >>6134373 >b-bang

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 22:00:45 No.6134436 >>6134425 I think they're fun cutscenes, as long as they're not complete idiots and yank the player out of the action for about 10% of the game, then it's fine.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 22:03:10 No.6134440 >>6134425 i like some of the wierd voices but besides the fact that a lot of the stuff is a bit "too new" to doom's dna, i hope it's all skippable there better be some arcade mode or an equivalent to dmc's bloody palace

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 22:05:03 No.6134442 >>6134425 Given that they're going to be evenly spaced out across the length of the game and are more likely skippable, I fail to see what's so egregious about them.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 22:07:47 No.6134449 tnt = soul plutonia = souless

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 22:10:08 No.6134452 >>6134442 I dont know, it just kind of felt like a disney movie or something. The way that woman was talking, just felt forced to me.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 22:12:24 No.6134454 you know, people give gzdoom shit for having wonky default settings, not being vanilla accurate, breaking between updates and whatnot, but after trying out ports like legacy and edge, it doesn't seem all that bad

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 22:14:20 No.6134458 >>6134454 people give everything shit because they're fucking whiny babies who don't understand anything about designing source ports or coding in general.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 22:16:34 No.6134461 >>6134449 TNT is great when I need something to help me sleep.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 22:25:56 No.6134472 >>6133205 Nah, he has black hair. Classic doom guy is blonde and bit older looking than that.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 22:30:49 No.6134482

I'm fairly certain American McGee added the NIN baron trap in E4M1 at the last minute. Ammo balance in that level doesn't seem to take its inclusion into account, as I still have some to spare if I skip the trap, but consistently run out before I can kill every baron if I activate them, making 100% more annoying than anything. Its also possible to get trapped in the blue key sector if you activate the NIN secret first, and run over the NIN for the blue key as the walls raise.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 22:33:16 No.6134487 >>6134472 Clasic Doomguy's Hair is Dark brown Id fucked it up with the QC skin

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 22:44:33 No.6134510 >>6133185 there is an undocumented way to get always run in vanilla, you just have to add some shit i forget to the config

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 22:54:19 No.6134525
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Wow. Does anyone remember The School Of Dark Magic from last years Quake Halloween Jam? It feels like i did the map completely wrong, despite taking seemingly taking the encouraged path. Didnt find any good weapons despite the map using high-level enemies everywhere, and somehow ended the map with like 150 kills left. Unlike Sock maps though, this map wasnt nearly fun enough to justify replaying it for completionism.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 22:55:53 No.6134527

>wad is too hard, therefore it's bad.
>it's not hard, it's just bullshit and unfair.
>expecting the player to already be skilled at doom to handle an addon is bad design.
>there's more than 12 enemies at a time? dumb slaughtershit.
>where's the ammo? doom is not a survival horror.
>actually, it's not the gameplay. I just think the visuals are ugly
>wasn't designed by id themselves? It's bad.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 22:59:21 No.6134532 >>6134527 Git gud. At mapping.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 23:01:30 No.6134538 >>6133852 It's Duke3D and Shadow Warrior mixed together. >SW >Blood >Ion Fart >Duke3D That's just my personal opinion, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 23:03:30 No.6134540 File: 258 KB, 814x542, oil-rig-north-sea.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6134532 I realized teleporters could make faux z levels recently.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 23:09:18 No.6134543 >>6134538 >SW over Blood >Ion over Duke wew lad

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 23:10:38 No.6134546 >>6134543 Shadow Warrior is more fun and I never thought Blood was especially difficult even on Well Done.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 23:11:23 No.6134547 >>6133045 >what is your ETA Sometime in the future. I have a pretty packed life. If you put my sleep schedule on a POW it would be a war crime. >same guy Are any of us really the same over time? Yes. Same guy.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 23:19:04 No.6134563

>>6134547
I will say that so far I have made 2 monsters, I monster-ish thing, maybe 20 textures and 2 maps, working on the third, and a few scraps of another map.
I have yet to do one new boss ?and all the sprites that entails), that I really hope I have the states for, 7 maps, and a bunch of textures. I also have to come up with an idea for a secret map that would be interesting enough to warrant being a secret...
So it'll be a bit. Don't expect it too soon.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 23:35:24 No.6134591 File: 397 KB, 1022x1067, The scrub tax.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 23:38:31 No.6134598 >>6133081 still /r/ing this

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 23:40:49 No.6134603 >>6134591 Ah yes, the shitter tax

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 23:42:17 No.6134605 >>6134527 >play 94 wads >every one of them is perfectly playable fuck discord trannies and shmup tards

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 23:42:23 No.6134606 File: 427 KB, 720x360, Turtle jumping.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I had a few people ask me if the bombs could launch you into the air as well. That was a pretty good call.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 23:42:56 No.6134609 >>6134598 https://zdoom.org/wiki/DECORATE_format_specifications

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 23:50:01 No.6134613 >>6134393 we doom cinematic mod now

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 23:53:17 No.6134617 >>6133852 I don't think its terrible, but it feels more like a mod than a game to me.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 23:54:03 No.6134621 >>6134613 FULLY MODELED helmet

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 14, 2020 23:55:32 No.6134623 >>6134532 What are your favourite mapsets?

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 00:06:31 No.6134639

>>6133852
I agree that it needed more character in the character. Play up some of the little lore they gave her (spilled drink, etc). But the environments were pretty great, and the villain was good. Weapons were fun. Good game. Not as stylistic as it coulda been is all.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 00:09:02 No.6134645 >>6134449 >soul/soulless meme

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 00:20:22 No.6134653 File: 87 KB, 533x800, 1518539759246.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6134393

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 00:36:45 No.6134678 >>6134653 They probably did. They’ve managed to fuck up everything else in that universe.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 01:01:52 No.6134702 >>6134678 >the phobos holocaust didn't happen >hayden did nothing wrong

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 01:53:19 No.6134757 >>6134702 Heil Hayden

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 02:04:49 No.6134768 >>6134757 If you look at pre-cyborg hayden, he literally is an Aryan specimen.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 02:22:05 No.6134789 >>6134603 we used to have this thing called cheat codes for that

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 02:28:48 No.6134805 >>6134373 > you tiny, tiny man

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 02:29:49 No.6134807 >>6134458 Hi Graf

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 02:56:53 No.6134846 >>6134183 PK is much more monotonous in its combat, and one of its weapons - shuriken/lightning one is unsatisfying trash, which is a lot considering you only have 5. D'16 was a better PK game than other PK games.

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 02:59:03 No.6134849

>>6134454
Being vanilla inaccurate is fine, as its clearly not the goal of the source port.

My problem is when recent discoveries and breakthroughs in vanilla mapping just so happen to be broken in GZDoom, that Graf often attempts to bully everyone into abandoning everything, rather than even trying to understand how to fix things.

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 03:23:19 No.6134868

>>6134525
You have to search the map very carefully for weapons.
The Silver key is in a house at the start.
Make your way up to the dual smokestacks, then starfe-jump off them into the chimney of the house.
You now have a choice, continue the map as normal (Library first), or jump off the bridge leading to the Library for the Rocket Launcher, grab it, the Dining Hall is behind you.
In the Dining Hall is yet another Nailgun, then up a Square Spiral Staircase for a Grenade Launcher at the top (Beware of Gaunts, the creatures from the movie Pitch Black).
The Double-Barreled Shotgun is in the Library on top of the middle cube.
After passing the Golem in the Library, the Circular Spiral Staircase has a Nailgun at the top, and after the mid bridge of the Circular Spiral Staircase, you can go left or down.
Going down nets you another Nailgun on the way to the Gold Key and the Lab, where you find the Plasmagun (Beware of Necromancers and Lost Souls).
If you go left, there is another Double-Barreled Shotgun in a courtyard to the right.
Near the Red Armor prior to reaching the Church is a ladder to the roof (In the Back corner behind the Red Armor assuming you took a left as per the prior sentence).
There is a Widowmaker Shotgun (Three Barrel) in a small courtyard up here, just behind you as you come up the ladder (Beware of Necromancers and Dholes).
Continue to the Church and get a Shadow Axe, then face the Church Entrance from outside and go through the right archway, down a ramp, and into a room with a book.
Kill the enemies here and be rewarded with a Supernailgun (Beware of Flail Wielding Death Knights and Imps).

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 03:33:32 No.6134878 >>6134026 It's not the well which is too deep, but your rope which is too short, butthurt anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 03:42:00 No.6134883 >>6134449 Tnt=clusterfuck mess Plutonia=annoying spinoff that poisoned modern mapmaking Tnt is better, because it was just shit. Plutonia made permanent harm.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 04:07:40 No.6134901 File: 66 KB, 800x600, Doom_1_Captura_PC.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6134487 >Dark brown It's at least medium brown, but I wouldn't say it is quite blonde

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 04:14:19 No.6134905 >>6134883 >annoying spinoff that poisoned modern mapmaking >Plutonia made permanent harm. You make it sound like everyone in the community is out to spite you for not liking Plutonia.

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 04:15:18 No.6134907
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Jesus, is that doom anymore? Feels like it'd be at home in classic Serious Sam, if anything.
Glad I decided to try Eternal Doom IV regardless of III being shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 04:25:58 No.6134918 >>6134373 smol

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 04:39:37 No.6134934

>>6134846
>and one of its weapons - shuriken/lightning one is unsatisfying trash
it has a combo attack that's super devastating, especially if you stick the electrified shuriken pan into a meaty enemy so he can run around electrocuting everyone.
The lightning alt fire is so great on its own you never have ammo for it. Primary shuriken is best used at long range because the shurikens explode and deal massive damage.
Skill based weapon that's too high IQ for (You).
I bet you didn't even know the stake gun has a staked grenade for massive damage combo.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 04:46:14 No.6134938 >>6134934 I said it was unsatisfying to use, not that it was not powerful/useful learn to fucking read, imbecille I've been playing the game since it was released and even modded for it so I know pretty much everything there is to know about it.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 04:47:13 No.6134941 >>6134938 same difference

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 05:38:18 No.6135003 >>6133128 >Last post Thanks. Post these opinions on doomworld with your dragon avatar next time.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 05:43:23 No.6135005 >>6135003 You humour me greatly with the stream of accusations born from the poison of envy and smite of disrespect.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 05:49:59 No.6135010 >>6134606 Based

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 06:28:53 No.6135032 >>6134941 to a braindead illiterate

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 06:29:55 No.6135034 >>6134606 hello, mine turtle

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 06:45:32 No.6135042 how the fuck do i get rid of my mappers block

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 07:13:21 No.6135053 >>6132581 disgusting

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 07:37:46 No.6135067 >>6135042 Make a map made of blocks

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 07:44:33 No.6135072 >>6135042 do something else for a while or brute force it

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 07:52:11 No.6135078 Playing Duke3d for the first time and I really gotta say. Those suicide enemies suck all the fun right out of the game. They keep spawning behind me too like what the hell were they thinking

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 09:08:43 No.6135126 >>6135078 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp3rwQ8fvhg

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 09:57:15 No.6135162 File: 477 KB, 1280x1629, PmGRK8L1B8fY7gzASFNiK4Xqq6YV7JNtCPkrCX2WYw0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 10:01:49 No.6135165 >>6135162 lookin' good

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 10:06:23 No.6135174 I have a question about Doom source ports. Is there any reason why you should use Crispy Doom instead of prBoom+/glBoom+?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 10:14:01 No.6135186 >>6135174 Crispy is for people who want to play chocolate Doom+ PRboom is great for playing vanilla style AND boom compatible maps

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 10:30:12 No.6135204 >>6135042 masturbate seven times a day

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 10:31:35 No.6135205 >>6134038 what makes steve's balls any better than say george's or craig's?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 10:32:43 No.6135209 >>6135204 way ahead of you

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 10:44:34 No.6135224 >>6135162 at least it was good intentions

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 10:47:21 No.6135228 >>6134591 Lol, can't wait for someone to struggle with the easiest setting and complain that the game will be pay2win.

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 10:51:07 No.6135235

>>6134591
Wait for it. There's eventually gonna be "Premium Ammo" for the multiplayer that do extra damage.
Imagine a P2W marine with a stack of Golden Rockets.

Sadly, this is already happening to games like World of Tanks that were previously not know for pulling that shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 10:54:23 No.6135239 >>6134591 This article is just quoting a /v/ thread.

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 10:57:36 No.6135247

>>6135205
Steve's are symmetrical in size and hang.
Purely an aesthetic thing, mind.

>>6134941
I would argue it's not the same. A weapon could have a great sound and animation, and really feel like it's highly effective and satisfying, but in reality be a pretty poor performer.
Inversely, the weapon could actually be really good, but it doesn't feel like it, the sound is weak and unpleasant, and the animations feel like they lack weight.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 11:01:34 No.6135251 >>6134449 Both have soul, unlike you. >>6134905 I will spite him for not liking Plutonia, in fact I'm in the process of spiting people who very vocally complain about hitscanners and chaingunners.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 11:24:34 No.6135281 File: 8 KB, 500x180, HappyPoo.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6135251 clears throat Fuck chaingunners Fuck Archviles and Fuck Matzoballs and Fearbooks

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 11:27:56 No.6135286 File: 484 KB, 711x739, 1570064941910.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's a good map that I can zoom around in with Highway Acceleroid Booster?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 11:52:37 No.6135327 >>6134905 Who cares about community edgelords? The 99% of the Doom maps are fucking Go2it clones.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 11:54:24 No.6135330 >>6135078 >Incubator/Warp factor >entire game Anon...

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 11:54:25 No.6135331 >>6135281 Based and projectilepilled

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 12:09:14 No.6135351
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>>6134128
>He's gonna be both, isn't he?
I wouldn't think so, considering 2016 confirmed that the events of 3 still happened at some point (in a parallel dimension), and we know 3 is separate from 1, 2, and 64.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 12:12:21 No.6135356 >>6135351 the actual order of events is clearly Doom 3 -> Doom -> Doom II -> Doom 64 -> Every single user made WAD ever -> Doom 2016 -> Doom Eternal

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 12:22:02 No.6135369 I want the Doom3guy to have a guest appearance.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 12:22:29 No.6135372 >>6135281 You have chosen the form of your destructor. Chaingun the Chaingunner, the hitscanner has come.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 12:23:31 No.6135375 >>6135327 Improve.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 12:32:38 No.6135390 >>6135372 So would he be a giant chaingunner with a single giant chaingun or would he have a million regular sized chainguns all firing at once.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 12:59:45 No.6135429 >>6135390 He's like a regular chaingunner but his sprite is 1x1.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 13:15:14 No.6135450 >grab new weapon >die wow amazing game wtf

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 13:30:34 No.6135454 >the game is about shooting >grab weapon >not shoot wow amazing player

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 13:42:25 No.6135464

>>6135390
His hitscan puffs will do hitscan attacks, which will do hitscan attacks, until it finally has reflected around on map geometry so it hits you, and he always fires, bullets constantly bouncing around the level until they find you.
When he dies, he spawns two more of himself, and he can traverse any height.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 13:44:09 No.6135468 Archviles, Revenants, Mancubi, Spiderdemons/Arachnotrons don't belong to Doom, they are third party artwork.

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 13:58:01 No.6135489
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Just finished a playthrough of Doom 3 since I played it many years ago but never finished it and now I'm playing all the Doom games in order. Doom 3 has great atmosphere, a surprisingly engaging narrative, fantastic voice acting and overall presentation, but holy fucking Satan does it suck goat dick as a game. 90% of the combat falls into three categories:
1) An enemy is mid-attack right on the threshold of the door you opened or some other scripted jump scare.
2) One or more enemies teleport ahead of you as a single enemy teleports behind you from the room you just came from.
3) Fifty spiders trickle into the room one by one via two to four entrances.
On top of that, the only gun that doesn't suck is the rocket launcher, but it's rarely the gun for the job in such a cramped corridor simulator where almost all the enemies rapidly charge you. Fuck, what a waste. I just need to vent after that ordeal.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 14:07:38 No.6135502 File: 815 KB, 768x816, whodat.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Icon of Sin?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 14:10:26 No.6135507 >>6135489 The whole of Doom 3 just feels "clumsy". I don't know how to describe it better. IMO would've been much beter if they had built a new Doom (or SP Quake) on Quake 3 engine, before making it into an MP-arena shooter.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 14:10:58 No.6135510 >>6135489 now I'm imagining a wad where I play as caco-chan and fight off marines and UAC combat robots

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 14:16:54 No.6135516 File: 1.15 MB, 1920x1080, Screenshot from 2020-01-15 16-16-19.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I just "finished" my first doom map and I'm looking for feedback. Should I post it here or are you retards too busy twiddling your dicks?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 14:20:38 No.6135525 File: 489 KB, 1694x1694, 1577125306295.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6135502 looks like a doom 3 enemy

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 14:22:42 No.6135528 >>6135516 post it

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 14:25:23 No.6135534 >>6135516 First piece of feedback: change boring default doom II sky. I'm sure you didn't replace the music either, so do that too.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 14:26:38 No.6135538 File: 387 KB, 746x600, DaGoal'Ere.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6135390 This, but with chainguns and chaingunner.

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 14:43:08 No.6135557

>>6135534
I don't know how to do that yet.
Also, the gameplay is complete but I still haven't finished adding details to the map or balancing the monsters/resources, so I'll worry about the sky and music later.
Here's the map:
#!x3BEWYrK!YzALqg4_B5VWKH6nZcYh1WQHg6YvGWa-JLt-rFsN7Uk

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 14:47:46 No.6135565 >>6135557 Forgot to mention: The map is for GZDoom. I balanced it around FinalDoomer, so its probably harder than I intended if you're playing vanilla.

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 14:50:05 No.6135567

>>6135557
Bro it's so easy to change the music. Just pick any midi file and import it into your wad using Slade. Be sure to rename it to "d_runnin" for MAP01. You can use the wiki for other maps to change the corresponding map title, for instance if you wanted to change the music for MAP02, you would rename the file "d_stalks".

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 14:52:16 No.6135568 File: 1.27 MB, 3360x1890, ALT Slippers.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] A.L.T. >nonsensical progression >levels that are too easy or annoyingly difficult >slippers 10/10

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 14:54:38 No.6135573 Is there a good gore mod that does not have ugly transparent wall textures like Nashgore, too much blood like Ketchup, no invisible monsters after reviving like Bolognese and is friendlier to low end PCs than Droplets?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 14:55:27 No.6135574 >>6134373 >pew pew >pew

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 15:05:22 No.6135584

Is there a simple Doom 2 mod or script that will remember whether I was using the regular shotgun or ssg when I switch to another weapon and then back to the shotgun slot? I'm having a real tough time trying to phrase that for relevant search engine results.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 15:19:03 No.6135594 >>6135525 STOP IT

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 15:42:06 No.6135631 >>6135502 Hope thats the case. Never understood the hype over the "titan" that people expected to be more important and not just a giant enemy type.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 15:45:50 No.6135635 >>6135573 >no invisible monsters after reviving like Bolognese is that another sgt mark glitch i haven't heard of?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 15:56:58 No.6135646 >>6135568 IIRC, the A.L.T levels were at least partially based on dreams, and were intended to be really surreal.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 16:10:01 No.6135664 >>6135573 why not just use droplets and lower the settings

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 16:10:31 No.6135665 is it possible to make an endless runner in doom?

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 16:19:10 No.6135675

>>6135635
Apparently it is said that the bug with archviles reviving gibbed enemies has been fixed but I'm either stupid or it's a lie so it doesn't work.
>>6135664
It is the last thing I tried but crushers seem to spread so much blood that it immediately starts lagging. Same issue with chainsaw or chaingun.
However reducing the particle amount past the 300 I already only have makes past encounters look like nothing happened. Pretty much defeats the purpose of a gore mod.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 16:29:25 No.6135692 >>6135489 Use the smg ya scrub. Its completely broken. Later you get the minigun and the plasma rifle and they can clean house pretty easily.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 16:37:04 No.6135709 >>6135692 I already beat the game, bro.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 16:38:57 No.6135717 >>6135709 then you are finally ready my son https://www.moddb.com/downloads/bubba-lego-tep-starring-lego-elvis

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 16:42:43 No.6135728
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>>6135557
found some missing textures in the screenshotted part of the map, which upon further inspection were revealed by a floor lower line
the right side highlighted sectors probably shouldn't have tag 31
also, it's odd how you put teleport lines halfway into the teleporter, rather than just making the sides of the teleporter the teleport lines.

as for gameplay, the start was probably the hardest part due to the hitscanners and lack of ammo. after you get the berserk, it mostly switched over to projectile enemies, which with how wide open the map is aren't really a threat. I ended up ignoring most of them, then mopping them up later with the super shotgun. the ones I did fight, I just berserk-punched to death.
I noticed a few times that a couple chaingunners would pop up, along with a pain elemental. that would've been reasonably lethal, if it wasn't so easy to get the pain elemental between me and the chaingunners.
with the invuln fight, I just put my face in everything and held the rocket launcher's trigger down. still had 5 rockets and I'd wager about 8 seconds of invuln left after killing everything. I'm guessing that's how it was meant to be, though.
and for the cyberdemon fight, the pain elementals caused massive chaos and got everything to infight, while I was able to just stay back, throw some rockets at the archvile, and let everything else kill each other. that happened in a few other places too, but it was most obvious here.

I'd physically tighten things up next time around. a few hell knights or cacodemons just aren't a threat when you can run circles around them unopposed, and a few faraway fatsos aren't going to cause much trouble either. and when mixing monster types, check how they end up mixing together, or else you'll end up with everything infighting instead of attacking the player, as I had with the cyberdemon.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 17:02:03 No.6135767 >>6132428 How do I update BuildGDX from version 1.03 to the latest version?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 18:26:43 No.6135875 Just finished Sunlust on UV. Damn...great wad but not always fun and here and there a bit cheap with unavoidable damage.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 18:29:56 No.6135883 Started playing Doom Zero and just finished map 3.

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 18:47:43 No.6135904

can someone name the voxel mod seen in this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4VW7Qg_RCc&t=2153s
I couldn't find something similar on the internet and also this fucking douche didn't link the mods he used for the video who thought adding chromatic aberration to gzdoom was a good idea it looks like shit

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 18:49:35 No.6135908 >>6135904 oops I gave a bad example 35:45 gives a better idea of the mod I'm looking for

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 18:50:43 No.6135912 >>6135489 You beat the expac?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 19:00:05 No.6135929 >>6135912 Nope, and I'm not really inclined to play any more Doom 3.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 19:09:36 No.6135939 >>6135502 A titan But it's fight will be similar to Rage 2's final enemy

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 19:45:42 No.6136017 >>6135904 I mean, if you want a good voxel mod, I always recommend Reikall's, its a shame he hasn't made more: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=58340

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 20:01:27 No.6136048 >>6135904 You mean the walls? That's gotta be parallax mapping or something like that, not voxels..

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 20:24:16 No.6136094 [DELETED]

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http://sonicresearch.org/community/index.php?threads/smooth-out-sprite-animations-interprite.5788/

I haven't seen this mentioned here yet;
MarkeyJester--the creator of Rotsprite-put out another tool last year called Interprite.
It's a tool that interpolates sprite animation.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 20:24:18 No.6136095 >>6135929 the second expansion is a better game

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 20:27:08 No.6136105
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http://sonicresearch.org/community/index.php?threads/smooth-out-sprite-animations-interprite.5788/

I haven't seen this mentioned here yet;
MarkeyJester from SonicRetro released a tool last year called Interprite.
It's a tool that interpolates sprite animation. I figure some of you might find this useful.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 20:28:35 No.6136110 >>6135525 "do you know how aliens have sex?"

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 20:31:28 No.6136116 >>6135516 >Should I post it here or are you retards too busy twiddling your dicks? >can't play and twiddle his dick at the same time noob

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 20:44:07 No.6136150 >>6135875 now beat it with extra co-op archviles

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 20:45:35 No.6136151 >>6135327 >The 99% of the Doom maps are fucking Go2it clones. Not even remotely true. And I'm someone who generally tries to avoid full-on slaughter wads.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 21:05:41 No.6136191 >>6132429 >>6133459 forgot to reply to the news post, oops.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 21:05:43 No.6136192 >>6135904 That has to be something else besides voxels, the way GzDoom handles voxels would have the program just shit itself trying to do what we see in the video.

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 21:44:02 No.6136226

>>6136017
I've known about voxel mods for a while, but actually looking into them, they're pretty neat. They give off a build engine vibe and fit nicely into software mode.
So dumb question: Would making voxel enemies be a good idea? Or would it be unfitting/too complex/etc. because I noticed he did that Strife enemy, though it's just the floating robot.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 21:54:05 No.6136240 >>6135904 >>6136192 looks like parallax mapping without filtering

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 21:56:47 No.6136242

>>6136226
People have tried, but GzDoom doesn't do true voxels, rather it just represents each voxel with a 1x1x1 polygonal cube, which means the CPU overhead is absolutely obscene.
Some guy on here did a minotaur enemy, he put lots of effort into it (probably more for a creature than most people who have dabbled with voxels), and just the one guy in some plain STARTAN test hallways brought his frame rate down to like 50 or 60 from well over 200.

It also looks really fucking janky unless you probably buckle down to make 1 frame per tic (and that's just speculating, nobody's done that), because you're looking at something that's three dimensional by that point, with sprites, it's much easier to get away with just like 4 frames at a dozen tics each for some typical melee attack (I hypothesize that your brain glosses over that somehow and it doesn't stand out).

It would probably be easier to make a normal 3D model. Maybe you could fake voxelize it?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 21:57:48 No.6136246 >>6135078 It's not so bad after Episode 2. Shrapnel City greatly reduces the numbers of drones but then Episode 4 has the stupid protector drones filling out almost every room.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 21:57:51 No.6136247 File: 22 KB, 346x367, voxels.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6136226 Also, you can't take a lot of shortcuts like you can with sprites, because then you end up with this.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 21:59:16 No.6136252 >>6135042 take walks outside it gets the brain goo flowing thus giving you better creativity. Maybe even have a cold one to relax

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:00:22 No.6136257 >>6136242 If there is no difference in GZDoom, one could make a voxel model, convert it to single polygonal model that looks like voxel one, then run it through Doom, since there's no functionl difference?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:01:25 No.6136261 >>6136105 >webm

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:01:59 No.6136263 >>6136247 he looks like hes going into warp speed

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:02:30 No.6136267

>>6135042
Watch some movies.
Bake a pizza.
Shoot a gun.
Nut in a girl's mouth.
Play an FPS or at least a levelpack you never had before, maybe play a different game for a little while.

Try a few of these, they'll all do you good even if you don't break your mapper's block.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:02:39 No.6136269 >>6136242 Some guy made a whole horror game in GZDoom with voxel enemies. Cant remember the name though.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:03:26 No.6136273 >>6136269 Total Chaos? Those were all regular polygonal 3D models.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:05:42 No.6136279 Are there any mapsets where you need to use an enemy to open up a secret door you couldn't normally on your own?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:06:28 No.6136280 >>6136261 The video was sourced from Twitter. I couldn't help it. https://twitter.com/ben_mansell/status/1209258016643698689

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:07:02 No.6136281 >>6136261 What's wrong with webm?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:08:29 No.6136286 >>6136281 He's probably a pleb browsing on an apple phone and can't view it.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:11:09 No.6136292 >>6135904 I think this might be what you're looking for: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=103&t=62104 >>6136105 Holy shit, Smooth Doom eat your heart out!

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:11:26 No.6136293

>>6136017
Voxels in zdoom, IIRC, use a similar system to build engine games so thats pretty understanable. The problem with voxelizing enemies is that it requires a SHITTON of work, since you have to make every sprite for the enemy in a 3d space through each of its sprites of animation. the most realistic way to do it would be for someone to fully 3d render each sprite of an enemies animation, then voxilize those renders. Even then, there would be a lot of perspective lost.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:12:06 No.6136294 >>6136286 Or he's pointing out how gross it looks.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:14:17 No.6136302 >>6136293 Was meant for >>6136226 but I', actually kinda retarded.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:18:02 No.6136306 >>6136279 Not a secret, but Suspended in Dusk does this near the beginning of map01.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:22:36 No.6136312 >>6136281 >year of our lord 2020 >4chan still can't hack VP9 codec yeah it would probably melt a mobile CPU trying to decode it, certainly melts my CPU trying to ENcode it

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:28:52 No.6136319 >>6136286 >>6136312 Wrong on both accounts. Webm produces artifacts. If it was a gif one could've extracted the frames and see how it works in game right away. No such luck with webm.

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:31:20 No.6136321

>>6136279
There is a quirk in Vanilla Doom where Mancubus fireballs will actually trigger walkover linedefs (most easily exhibited in Doom 2 Map 09), and I think someone may have used that as an esoteric way to hide a secret once.

Ostensibly, you could also use this for devious traps, ergo if you're in fatso's line of fire long enough that he starts shooting at you, he might shoot over a linedef that triggers a crusher over a voodoo doll, or lets loose like 200 pinkie demons.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:32:07 No.6136326 >>6136312 Plays fine on my Zenfone.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:35:25 No.6136332 >>6136105 Looks like shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:36:43 No.6136335 >>6136279 Archvile jumps always were a thing, though rarely used nowadays.

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:38:36 No.6136336

>>6136292
>Smooth Doom eat your heart out!
No, not really. This looks chunky and weird, but it's a great start. Honestly smooth doom has some problems with animation. tweens being point to point and not arcing well, timing issues making actions feel "soft" and that sort of thing.
But it's an impressive amount of work they did.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:45:40 No.6136343 File: 200 KB, 1440x1080, SiDship.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I love that this is a vanilla compatible map

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:46:49 No.6136348 >>6136319 >gif doesn't produce artifacting OK retard

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 22:48:39 No.6136350 >>6136326 I'm kinda memeing since I'm pretty sure VP9 is the standard codec of youtube maybe with VP8/MPEG4 as a fallback for weaker CPUs/Appleshit

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 23:10:17 No.6136378 Fuck you guys. I thought I was out but here I am, getting ready to reinstall some source ports.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 23:12:14 No.6136381 >>6136378 Imagine having such a toaster you don't have room to leave doom sourceports installed.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 23:13:33 No.6136383 >>6136381 Hard drive crash, I'm on a shit-top that cost $100 I got for writing.

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 23:17:24 No.6136389
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>>6133348
>Honestly, DE just seems like a bunch of dudes came together and said “let’s think of cool things we can add into the game without any rhyme or reason”

I know it's not what you meant, but it's amazing how much this applies to Digital Extremes and Warframe.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 23:21:35 No.6136397 Best wads for >comfy? pls

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 23:24:26 No.6136407 >>6136397 For me, it's DUMP 1-3.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 23:32:11 No.6136417 >>6136397 Suspended in Dusk

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 23:32:59 No.6136418 >>6136389 I still respect them for their work on UT epic games can't tie their shoelaces when left to their own devices

Anonymous Wed, Jan 15, 2020 23:43:45 No.6136429

>>6133348
>Honestly, DE just seems like a bunch of dudes came together and said “let’s think of cool things we can add into the game without any rhyme or reason
Funny you should say this, there was a podcast earlier released earlier today where one of the devs goes more in-depth about the way they're handling the story, combat, and the tone of the game. The way that they're handling the plot is virtually unchanged from 2016, except they're now conveying it through more elements. Cutscenes are confirmed to be skippable, and they fine-tuned the AI to accomodate the new mechanics and made sure enemies were made tougher to balance it out and overall made the game less forgiving and more cerebral in its combat. Good stuff.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 00:07:28 No.6136458 >>6136343 midtexture horseshit is the best.

Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 01:10:53 No.6136548

>it was common for the iwads and very old pwads to connect teleporter closets with a ventilation tube or sewer pipe so the enemies could hear.
>people then quickly realised you can just join a sector in the playable area with the closets and the enemies will be able to hear anyway
>benefit of this is that the closets have more freedom on where they can be positioned, allowing to remove the noise that the closets can produce from being audible in the playable areas.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 01:23:55 No.6136561 >>6136348 If whoever made it have at least half a brain, then it doesen't. Especially on sprites that have <256 colors. Nice try though, assclown

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 02:15:37 No.6136618 File: 23 KB, 359x364, 1542255817624.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >HE USES A BOOM BASED SOURCE PORT AHAHAHAHAHAHA JUST USE GZDOOM WTF ARE U THINKIN LMAO

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 02:39:42 No.6136646 File: 80 KB, 500x501, weakb8m8.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw you just played yourself

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 02:45:23 No.6136649 >>6136561 yeah you can weasel out on this one specific instance where gif > webm, I'll allow it

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 02:50:09 No.6136656 >>6136548 >swing fist in tiny box >mastermind wakes up >hmm >look around >see tiny square hole >ah

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 03:07:33 No.6136671 >>6136656 >>6136548 perverted demon voyeurs with their peepholes

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 03:57:30 No.6136707 >>6132964 >>6132429

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 04:03:01 No.6136712 >JR: Shout-out to the Cacodemon’s two holes that I can’t talk about.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 04:10:22 No.6136720 File: 72 KB, 927x131, Post Mortem.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 04:42:53 No.6136740 >>6136105 Please stop winking at me

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 05:45:00 No.6136804 >>6136783

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 05:53:29 No.6136812 >>6136343 We need to do a seance so we can learn his Espi's mapping tricks. A lot of the stuff he does isn't immediately obvious that it's a trick or how it's done.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 06:02:46 No.6136819 >>6136397 doomcity.wad

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 06:12:39 No.6136827 File: 649 KB, 720x360, Early moon beam.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Pretty excited about how this coming along so far

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 06:17:59 No.6136831 >>6136827 oh there it is

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 06:22:37 No.6136836 >>6136618 is this supposed to be satire of negroid gentlemen

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 06:24:20 No.6136838 wheres that immortal conduct anon looking for a status update on it

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 06:29:12 No.6136841 >>6136720 unironically best episode

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 06:33:22 No.6136846 >>6136827 > beam > projectiles why not make it hitscan

Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 06:34:54 No.6136847

>>6136846
I prefer projectiles flying through the air, besides, the way this works is pretty damn close to how the Moon Ball works in Xexyz. The only difference is you don't have an orbiting ball that does the shooting for you, that would be a bitch to manage in Doom.

Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 06:43:18 No.6136853
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>>6136838
Actually been starting development up again, I'm pretty sure I'm past my burnout and modder's block.
Got some *terrific* help with some code, where Brohnesorge, trying to understand my mess of a code, worked out how to make the grenade launcher reload cancel, as well making the correct animation sequence for the shotgun's reload, where from an empty gun, you'll always pump the action after inserting the first shell.
There were some complications from this, almost certainly because poor Brohne had to understand my Tangela actor states and jumps, and doing his best to make it work within those parameters, but I actually managed to resolve all of those myself, which made me feel like I learned something. Probably.

Other than that, working on the remote detonated explosives, new bomb, new detonator, new kaboom, probably some new ways to use it. I'm hoping people will like the Really Cool Explosions.

Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 06:46:09 No.6136854
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I was pondering the idea of making a .gif of just the explosion sprites to show it to people, but I remembered the animation is tied heavily to offsets and that would be the most tedious bullshit in the universe, so I'd rather just do some video of that some time instead.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 06:51:23 No.6136860 >>6136853 very nice. i've been looking forward to this since you first posted about it. good luck with the rest of it

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 07:19:16 No.6136884 >>6136854 God, I didn't notice at the time just how hard that shotgunner got Team Rocketed up into the air by the explosion, that's great.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 07:22:01 No.6136889 Is it my imagination or do the cyberdemon's rockets move much more slowly in Doom 2?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 07:27:15 No.6136893 File: 340 KB, 800x807, spectacle.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the difference between all the different Quake files in the mega and drive links?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 07:29:25 No.6136894 >>6136889 Pretty sure its the same speed as your rockets.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 08:22:51 No.6136973 >>6136884 the hip new term the kids use is "yeeted", I believe

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 08:29:02 No.6136980 >Doom Eternal trailer 2 >Calls Doomguy a "Human" Am I the only one who noticed this? Is this some sort of time travel fuckery, some sort of Sentinels colonizing Earth fuckery or is humanity just a common occurence in the nudoom multiverse?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 08:31:47 No.6136983 >>6136980 nuDoom's lore is a bigger mess than what people want to admit. I'm assuming Doomguy exists in multiple forms or something.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 08:55:15 No.6137010 >>6136983 Ok.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 08:58:20 No.6137014 >>6136397 russian overkill + sunnder

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 09:01:00 No.6137016 >>6136980 Time travel/multiple dimension fuckery most likely. Basically Doomguy stuck in a chrono-ouroboros, thus the Eternal naming.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 09:08:41 No.6137021 >>6136973 Yote'stve

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 09:31:38 No.6137043 >>6137010 ???

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 09:35:33 No.6137049 >>6136980 >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 09:35:51 No.6137051 >>6136893 anyone?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 09:41:05 No.6137058 >>6137051 If something was horribly wrong with one of them it would have been removed. I'm sure they're the same for gameplay at least

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 09:53:54 No.6137073 do you remember vodka?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 09:54:29 No.6137074 >>6137073 Sandwich but not retro

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 10:07:51 No.6137080 File: 145 KB, 710x647, IMG_20200116_090554.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 10:16:16 No.6137085 New bread?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 10:19:45 No.6137092 File: 985 KB, 1920x1080, quakespasm-sdl12 2020-01-16 18-19-10-84.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Aagh.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 10:24:16 No.6137095 >>6136983 Multiple dimensions are hardly a difficult/innovative concept to introduce in a story.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 10:31:20 No.6137106 >>6135327 >99% of the Doom maps are fucking Go2it clones. Have you tried playing wads besides Sunder and Newgothic 1&2?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 10:45:03 No.6137116 >>6137085 /vr/ is slow as shit, you can get away until Page 9-10 even.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 10:49:12 No.6137121 File: 131 KB, 995x876, 1559553784725.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6132698 >cellulose HAHAHAHHHAAH bro its cellulite

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 10:58:49 No.6137129 >>6137092 didnt know quake 1 had pyros

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 11:02:19 No.6137130 >>6136980 Yes he's a human probably Doomguy after Doom 64 He's not a native to Argent D'Nur and wasn't their real king Anyone with reading comprehension could have figured that out

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 11:03:23 No.6137131 >>6132698 >That's one accurate model. That is the model

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 11:05:48 No.6137134 File: 931 KB, 640x728, 1575473541185.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] eternal is going to be glorious, and theres nothing you can do about it, NOTHING

Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 11:11:00 No.6137138

>>6133517
These things happen. It's hard to get a bunch of randos on the internet on the same page.
Doom mapping is also more common, and people are more familiar with setting up the line actions and monsters etc. Switching to heretic is trivial, but juuust different enough to be a barrier for entry.

Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 11:12:57 No.6137139

>>6137130
So according to Doom2016 Hell "In the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened, one stood. Burned by the embers of Armageddon, his soul blistered by the fires of Hell and tainted beyond ascension, he chose the path of perpetual torment. In his ravenous hatred he found no peace;"
That implies Doomguy was always present on hell. Unless "the first age" means the first demonic invasion on Doomguy's Earth and Hell didn't bother to keep track of time beforehand.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 11:13:45 No.6137140 We have Crispy Doom, but what bout Crispy Boom? Basically just Boom but with quality of life upgrades for Boom, and Boom compatibility.

Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 11:15:54 No.6137142

>>6133658
You could've just opened it in Doombuilder and kept what you had.
There's a few flavors of doombuilder too, depending on what source port you're using.
DoombuilderX, and UltimateDoombuilder are the two to consider. UDB is more for GZDoom and DoombuilderX is more for vanilla Doom/Limit removing.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 11:16:57 No.6137145 >>6137140 Retro Doom

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 11:18:04 No.6137147 >>6137139 First age is obviously the first game series. That whole description is doomguy through to doom64s story ending. Does Doom 4 mention Doom 3? I don't remember.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 11:18:33 No.6137148 >>6137134 >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 11:29:50 No.6137152 >>6137106 Sunlust, Alien Vendetta, all skillsaw wankery?

Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 11:41:41 No.6137170

>>6137152
Sunlust does have its share of slaughter maps. But its made by known slaughtermappers, and is actually pretty tame by their standards for the most part.
Alien vendetta only becomes slaughter in a couple maps in its final third and its super secret level
Skillsaw's wads have almost no slaughter at all besides like one or two maps maximum, and they barely qualify.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 12:04:18 No.6137189 >>6137092 don't die

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 12:04:56 No.6137191 So I heard there was a new update to the console versions. How is the Switch version now?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 12:05:33 No.6137192 >>6137092 do not do that

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 12:06:46 No.6137193 >>6137170 I think a lot of people make the mistake of playing Alien Vendetta on UV, when they probably shouldn't.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 12:19:30 No.6137209 >>6137191 It's alright.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 13:10:06 No.6137286 >>6137147 yes it mentions how hell tried to assimilate other worlds, and you can even find the remnants of the soul cube in Olivia's lab

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 13:12:05 No.6137291 >>6137049 >>6137148 >how to spot a bainting tourist HLfag... >>6137191 it has a lot of shit to be done, but is now playable.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 13:27:13 No.6137326 >>6137286 Why are people still taking that as if it wasn't just a reference?

Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 13:28:51 No.6137332

>>6135728
Sorry for the late reply, a hurricane passed over my neighborhood and I've been without electricity/internet for the last 20 hours.
I'll look into those issues and try to rework the enemy encounters.
What about the secrets? There are two secrets in particular ( the three switch puzzle and the labirynth ) that I can't tell if I made them too easy or too hard.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 13:29:29 No.6137335 >>6137286 that's right. the tablet too.

Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 13:39:57 No.6137356

>>6137326
there are throwbacks to hell trying to invade Doom 3 Earth and losing it

People are claiming that the Marauder is the RoE Engineers who became corrupted since he has a double barrel shotgun that looks like Sarge's SSG and the same facial structure

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 13:40:05 No.6137357 >>6137291 Like what specifically.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 13:45:39 No.6137369 File: 175 KB, 500x390, tumblr_owrbddiFUX1r2to8go1_500.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >when someone tries to defend nu-doom even though there is literally zero level or encounter design

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 13:53:13 No.6137389 >>6137356 this is getting a bit silly

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 14:10:02 No.6137427 NEW THREAD >>6137421 >>6137421 >>6137421

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 14:19:03 No.6137442 >>6137369 >literally zero level design Suit yourself, anon. You can always go back to playing Doom 3 and making your own Doom 1, Doom 2, and Heretic WADs.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 14:38:45 No.6137474 >>6136292 >https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=103&t=62104 that's exactly what I was looking for, thanks anon!

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 14:46:41 No.6137480 File: 188 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6137369 Indeed - sip based blackpilled Boomer. Nu-Doom's level design can never hope to be nearly as good as Based Boomer Doom 2.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 15:15:14 No.6137530 >>6137369 Doom Eternal will change that though, so this complaint will be moot by the time it launches.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 15:15:36 No.6137531 >>6137530 I sincerely hope so.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 16:05:48 No.6137620 >>6136983 i feel like the idea of a doom lore is because of some idea that every piece of media needs a deep universe to invest in

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 16:15:32 No.6137635 >>6137286 >hell tried to assimilate other worlds i mean, some classic levels mixed up themes, so i figure they always did that, no?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 18:54:47 No.6137864 File: 1.49 MB, 1920x1080, Screenshot (35).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6133205 Everything is so overdesigned in the new trailers. The initial reveal was perfect.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 16, 2020 22:04:14 No.6138112 Im lazy to download wads

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