/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6123130]

A consumer trinitron with S-video is more than enough clarity
>pic related

[Anonymous No.6123138]

As the developers intended.

[Anonymous No.6123139]

>>6123130
Consumer televisions as a whole usually give enough clarity unless the tubes are complete bust. Picking some 8" inch professional monitor over a nice big consumer set is genuinely retarded.

[Anonymous No.6123140]

Yes we know this

[Anonymous No.6123143]

>>6123139
But I have a 20" PVM...

[Anonymous No.6123146]

I'm actually using a consumer trinitron with composhit and it's still way too clear. Sonic's waterfalls don't get the nice transparent effect.

[Anonymous No.6123152]

>>6123143
29" is the perfect CRT size for me

[Anonymous No.6123182]

>>6123139
I use an NEC XP29, which is a 29" pro monitor. I guess a BVM would have more TV lines, but yeah, 29" is a definite plus. I have a smaller Ikegami something-or-other, and while it works great for older stuff like the NES and MSX, I much prefer a larger screen for 3D games (and even newer 2D like SNES).

[Anonymous No.6123228]

>>6123130
BUUUT MAH RGB,THIS MAH RGB THAT!

[Anonymous No.6123239]

Daily reminder
Fuck scart
Fuck Rgb
Fuck PVM
Fuck BVM
Love component
Love composite
Love RF
Love trinitron
Love shadow mask

[Anonymous No.6123241]

>>6123130
It's fine if it's all you have. Anyone with a soldering iron and half a brain can have RGB though, so there's no real point in settling for less.

[Anonymous No.6123270]

>>6123239
Absolutely based.

[Anonymous No.6123275]

>>6123239
>hate RGB
>love component
This gives your post away as a cope.

[Anonymous No.6123279]

>>6123239
Fuck Europe
Love USA

[Anonymous No.6123315]

>>6123239
>Fuck P/BVM

>Love trinitron

[Anonymous No.6123329]

>>6123239
>Fuck Rgb
>Love component
They're visually indistinguishable.

[Father Electronics Couture No.6123385]

There really needs to be some meme about dipshits dragging 200 pound 36 inch consumer CRTs out of the trash. I'm too tired to come up with one right now though.

Unless you have local friends (plural) who retro game with you, 20 inches is plenty for a CRT. If you want to game in a recliner or something just use your HDTV.

[Anonymous No.6123390]

>>6123385
what's wrong DYEL? can't pick up a 36 incher by yourself?

[Father Electronics Couture No.6123398]

>>6123390
I can, I've carried them to the curb when people left them in rentals but it's not fun since consumer CRTs, even giant ones do not come with good handles. I just think it's stupid and unnecessary since 14-20 is easy and plenty large enough for gaming purposes.

[Anonymous No.6123403]

>>6123398
It really depends what your set up is. 20 inch for a living room couch set up is pretty small.

[Father Electronics Couture No.6123453]

>>6123403
See
>>6123385
There's no reason to use a crt if you're playing from a meter or more away

[Anonymous No.6123457]

>>6123398
>14-20 is easy and plenty large enough for gaming purposes.
That cope.

[Father Electronics Couture No.6123467]

>>6123457
There's literally no obstacle to people gaming on however big a crt they might care to so the "cope" meme doesn't really apply in this case

The only point of "showcase" arcade cabinets was to attract spectators

[Anonymous No.6123483]

>>6123130
And red bleed, and less than dazzling colour reproduction

[Anonymous No.6123505]

>>6123483
as developers intended
not a single kid was playing his RGB modded SNES on a PVM in 1991

[Father Electronics Couture No.6123525]

>>6123505
1991 SNES puts out RGB unmodified and you can bet your ass there were people playing them on arcade and commodore RGB monitors.

[Anonymous No.6123543]

>>6123505
Well, apparently there was enough of a perceived market in Japan for RGB gaming on the Super Famicom that Nintendo themselves produced an RGB cable for it.

[Anonymous No.6123592]

>>6123543
NOOOOO! TELL ME THIS ISN'T REAL, /VR/OS.

[Anonymous No.6123602]

>>6123239
>Love component
>Love RF
disgusting

[Anonymous No.6123603]

>>6123453
>There's no reason to use a crt if you're playing from a meter or more away
CRTs have superior motion quality because of the flicker, not superior image quality. Distance is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.6123616]

>>6123603
Used to* have

[Anonymous No.6123627]

the image is is clear... so this is how the developed intended it to be played... surreal...

[Anonymous No.6123631]

>>6123130
>trinitron
yikes!

[Anonymous No.6123636]

It's purple!
It's blurry!

It's soul.

[Anonymous No.6123645]

>spent $7500 on a used PVM off ebay
>load up my favorite game
>looks like this

PVM is a meme

[Anonymous No.6123695]

>>6123602
All consumer input standards are to be loved anon.

[Anonymous No.6123717]

why not just use CRT-over-HDMI?

[Anonymous No.6123726]

>>6123717

[Anonymous No.6123728]

I still want a large BVM, but out here in the middle of nowhere we never had any TV production nor hospital that spent for broadcast monitors. I'd have to import one from California which would cost thousands at this point.


>>6123592
It is the JP21 standard, which not much is made for that pinout these days.

[Anonymous No.6123756]

>>6123728
the developers intended to make money

most developers don't even like video games and they outright hate the people who buy their games

[Anonymous No.6123763]

>>6123130
If it's an n64 or older I agree as they do not natively support rgb, and no I'm not interested with fucking around with the guts of a system to make them support it.
svid tends to get shit on, but it's a helluva lot better than composite.

Get an official nintendo cord though, all the modern third party cables are chink shit quality.

[Anonymous No.6123767]

>>6123763
The SNES, Mega Drive and Master System all had RGB pins on their multi-out connectors from the factory.

[Anonymous No.6123770]

>>6123763
>If it's an n64 or older I agree as they do not natively support rgb
SNES, Genesis, Master System, PS1, Saturn, and Neo Geo beg to differ.

[Anonymous No.6123780]

>>6123239

Composite video is greatest video quality on the planet earth.

[Anonymous No.6123783]

>>6123767
>>6123770
huh
Don't know why info I found back then said it doesn't without modification then.

Pricey cable.

[Anonymous No.6123816]

>>6123783
Nintendo in particular has had a pretty spotty history with RGB support. The NES only did composite and RF, with the N64 outputting s-video as its best option. But people who try to tell you that nobody ever had or worried about these things before the modern era of interest in the platforms is full of shit.
As much as anything, RGB was handy since it doesn't use any region-specific colour carriers. France used SECAM and was essentially the only western country in Europe to do so. Eastern Europe wasn't yet a viable market, so they got a model of NES that connected via RGB, but with a shoddily transcoded composite signal.

[Anonymous No.6124613]

>>6123239
This couldn't possibly be any more red pilled and based.

To hell with manchildren and muh perfect pixels.

[Anonymous No.6126205]

>>6123505
>RGB modded SNES
>i wasn't alive in 1991

[Anonymous No.6126256]

>>6123130
Honestly if you can't tolerate something you claim to enjoy in a less than ideal situation do you really enjoy it? Not saying that if you want something to be the best it can be that you shouldn't go from it but if you had the choice of playing one of your favorite games over rf or not playing anything at all what would you realistically choose?

[Anonymous No.6126264]

>>6123636
>It's soul.
You've lost your "soul" privileges

[Anonymous No.6126268]

>>6123239
based

[Anonymous No.6126271]

>>6126256
Who is talking about being unwilling to play in a less than ideal situation?

[Anonymous No.6126427]

Gotta love these "I can't get RGB so I'm going to convince myself that it's crap" threads.

At least anon is using S-Video though, and not composite.

[Anonymous No.6126454]

[Anonymous No.6126464]

>>6126454
Dot crawl, flicker, rainbow banding and shimmering adds character, apparently...

[Anonymous No.6126471]

>>6126427
It's funny because basically everybody who has access to RGB would also have access to composite video, and it isn't like people who own CRTs don't most likely also have a modern LCD display of some sort that they could use to play old games on if they so desired. It reminds me of people touting emulators as being superior to original hardware while mocking people who still use the actual game consoles, even though most people who still play on original hardware have used emulators and probably still use them from time to time (and were likely using them before said emulator proponents were old enough to even use a computer on their own, that is if they were even already alive in the first place). Then there's the "just download it bro" people who don't realize that a lot of their ROMs came from people who spent money on the originals, either as a purchase or as a rental, or people mocking collectors without apparently realizing that many rare prototype/unreleased/etc ROMs these days originate from collectors.

In each case, those being mocked do indeed have access to all of the options available to those doing the mocking, plus the ability to use some extra options not currently available to those doing the mocking... which really makes you think...

[Anonymous No.6126481]

>>6126471
Zoom Zoom!

[Anonymous No.6127581]

Reminder that arcade games are peak /vr/, and every single arcade game used RGB.

[Anonymous No.6127741]

>>6127581
Reminder that not everyone's as zoom as you. I assure you that Pong, Battlezone, and many others didn't use RGB.

[Anonymous No.6127751]

>>6127741
Monochrome games used a simple luma signal. No color, but equal in sharpness to RGB. Nice job outing yourself, zoomer.

[Anonymous No.6127765]

>>6127581
>Purpose built hardware comparable to consumer game consoles and tvs.
No shit sherlock

[Anonymous No.6128043]

Flawed CRTs with rf are kind of like an old movie
camera filter that gives more aesthetic value and
even gives an illusion of the graphics being
better than they actually are

[Anonymous No.6128405]

>>6127751
>gets caught zooming
>zoomsplains
>no u
Top kek kid

[Anonymous No.6129314]

>>6123627
based fly poster

[Anonymous No.6129351]

Yup, can't get more kino than this!

[Anonymous No.6129367]

>>6129351
False.

[Anonymous No.6129609]

>>6129367
This is the ideal video cable. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

[Anonymous No.6129615]

>>6128043
This is audiophile tier bullshit and I believe it

[Anonymous No.6132248]

>>6123645
>spent $7500 on a used PVM off ebay
Is that just the normal asking price for a PVM these days? Or is this some super rare 30" kind of tv or something? That seems just a tad high for a retro CRT display.

[Anonymous No.6132256]

>>6132248
He typed an extra zero. That said even $750 is meme tier.