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6116878 No.6116878 [Reply] [Original]

Still the greatest puzzle game of all time.

Tetristrannies can eat a dick.

>> No.6116902
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I enjoy columns 3 the most. I wonder who this guy is to this day.

>> No.6116909

>>6116902
Me too! Why put this balding man on the cover? Who the hell is he? What does he have to do with the game. At least we know the reason for he Phalanx cover.

>> No.6116935

>>6116909
My guess is he won a contest, that or he's a fan who wrote into sega, that or he's a sega employee, maybe a tester or phone line operator who gave a lot of columns advice.

He had to know what he was signing up for.

>> No.6116948

>>6116878
Don't forget that Puyo Puyo weebs can gargle diarrhea, glad to know some anons with actual taste in puzzle games.

>> No.6116969

So, are you gonna discuss the game or not? Because so far all I'm seeing is /v/-tier effort shitposting insulting other (better) puzzle series.

>> No.6116984

>Sega will never create a more refined version of Columns like they did with the Puyo Puyo series

>> No.6116985

>>6116902
That games a blast in multi. So many different ways to screw with your opponent.

>> No.6116989

>>6116969
To be fair, what is there really to discuss? You just choose the order of gems in a column as they drop down, hope to get three in a row, and that's it. There were only three games in the series, and one was an arcade title only.

>> No.6116992

>>6116989
I like other drop'em' to stop'em puzzle games like star sweep. And even puzzle bob 'em to pop 'em games like money idol exchanger.

>> No.6116995

I think every Genesis owner had Columns 1. I remember playing it a lot when I was bored of Sonic and The Lion King. I probably played it even more than GB Tetris.

I didn't play Columns 3 until much later in life, when I got a flashcart. How come there's no Columns 2 on Genesis?

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>>6116989
>There were only three games in the series, and one was an arcade title only.
Aren't you forgetting the two Hanagumi Taisen Columns games.

>> No.6118087

>>6116902
St. Columnscel

>> No.6120008

>>6116995
>How come there's no Columns 2 on Genesis?
iirc Columns 2 was on Game Gear

>> No.6120015

>>6116878
it gets too fast too soon so matches are over really quickly. Maybe I need to git gut

>> No.6120082
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>>6116969
Because it deserves to be insulted.

It, Puyo Puyo, Dr. Mario, and every other game that asks you to match one or two colored halves of a falling block with matching colored halves of another block, are all inferior puzzle games to Tetris due to how messy and imprecise their gameplays are. Simply put, there is no way to play a perfect game in any of these Tetris wannabes. No matter your skill level, in no time at all you'll be forced to lay a piece that is a complete mismatch on top of another piece, and this is where it gets messy: whereas it's theoretically possible to have a perfect Tetris game that keeps going forever, and while you can "dig" your way out of a mistake made in Tetris, in Collumns and Collumns knockoffs digging your way out of a messy situation is part of the game. Missing is the perfect mathematical precision on which Tetris operates, and instead what you have is a game that wants you to brute force a messy, imprecise way out of the messy, random screen of tiles that's been generated by the CPU over the course of the game.

TL;DR: Tetris is literally too sophisticated for you.

>> No.6120093

>>6120082
>virgin tetris player criticizes other games
>chad puzzle master enjoys all varieties of tile matching and stacking

An infinite string of S or Z will fuck your "theoretically perfect" game right up. That's not an issue with modern bag-style randomizers but still.

>> No.6120096

>>6120093
It's never been an issue with any version of Tetris at all. Name one that can give you an infinite string of any particular blocks.

>> No.6120162

>>6120082
No lies detected here. Columns is for plebs.

>> No.6120164

/v/tards should leave.

>> No.6120236

>>6120164
Columns and its ilk are sloppy, imprecise. They trade on the player making lots of mistakes—not due to human error, but to the nature of the game—and then having to scrape and claw their way out of a mess. Unlike Tetris a good Columns game doesn’t make you feel smarter, just luckier, having quicker reflexes. It has more in common with beat em ups or shmups in that regard, because to be “good” at the game doesn’t require you to be clever—in fact, when compared to Tetris, Columns, Pluto Puyo, and Dr. Mario offer almost no mental stimulation at all.

If anyone’s a tard here, it’s you for making this thread and daring to call Columns of all games the king of puzzles while simulataneously putting down Tetris and its fans. To be blunt: eat shit and cope.

>> No.6120265

>>6116878
>>6118087
>>6120236
Fuck off back to /v/

>> No.6120303

>>6120265
Is that all you can say in defence of your shitty bait thread? Sad.

>> No.6120307

>>6120303
I replied to the OP, you absolute pseudo-intellectual penis

>> No.6120512
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>>6120082
>>6120236
Spoken like a true casual who can't get double-digit chains in actually interesting puzzle games so he only plays tetris, the most boring and brainlet shite out there.

>> No.6120704

>>6120512
Face it, mate: you can’t refute a single word of what I said. All you can do is throw meaningless words like “brainlet” around. Meaningless, because they have no correlation to the reality of the situation, which is that Tetris is a game that rewards intellectual prowess. You’re not just relying on the blind luck of the draw to bludgeon your way out of tight spots, you’re relying on your ingenuity to fit blocks together; and when it’s messy it’s messy, but a skilled player can keep a clean, orderly screen.

“Brainlet” indeed.

>> No.6120738
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>>6120704
Tetris doesn't even have cute girls.

>> No.6120743

>>6120738
...touché.

>> No.6120759

>>6116995
It was an arcade game, but you can get it on Switch

>> No.6120760

>>6120096
Maybe not actually infinite, but some older versions were more random. NES Tetris can give you long droughts.
>Basically it rolls an 8 sided die, 1-7 being the 7 pieces and 8 being "reroll". If you get the same piece as the last piece you got, or you hit the reroll number, It'll roll a 2nd 7 sided die. This time you can get the same piece as your previous one and the roll is final.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Tetris/comments/6o6tvv/what_is_the_block_algorithm_for_classic_tetris/
41 piece drought at the end here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgCY7rf7a_M

There's also purely random piece generation without any bias in random versions of Tetris people make (not the ones that are played seriously though).

>> No.6120776

>>6120082
Does it really matter much though in practice? How does this make Puyo Puyo less enjoyable?

>> No.6120785

damn. even the game itself is bored.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=admQ2Ideh0M

>> No.6120885
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>>6116878
What's the best version of columns?
For me it's Stack Columns on arcade

>> No.6120892

>>6116984
I would go fucking nuts if someone made something like Tetris the grandmaster, I'll pay any money.
>Columns The Grandmaster
Nnnngggggg

>> No.6120916

This game soundtrack motivated me to learn to play the musical keyboard and piano. Clotho is a really good theme to warm your fingers.
Long live Columns.

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>>6120738
>Tetris doesn't have waifus
It does now.

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>>6120970
It's a start at least.

>> No.6120978

>>6116909
I feel like he might just be clip art

>> No.6120983

>>6120885
why would you let your kid play a game with hussein in it. no wonder I never saw this one

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>>6120885
Columns with unique characters and different attack forms tied to the different colors? Yep that's the one!

>> No.6123132

>>6116878
>Still the greatest puzzle game of all time.
there are pedophiles and rapists that get more respect than this garbage game. try harder, segacuck.

>> No.6123154

>>6123132
seething

>> No.6123156

>he still at it.
Sad

>> No.6123804

I actually prefer Panel de Pon. Sorry.

>> No.6123961

>>6116902
fpbp

>> No.6124182

>>6123804
Thank you for apologising for your trash taste.

>> No.6124616

>trying to talk positively about a non-Nintendo game/console on the internet
lol

>> No.6124624

>>6124182
>muh subjective opinion is objective reality
Thank you for being faggier than the faggiest fag in all of fagdom, FAG. Rope, tree - you know what to do. Typically, I'd tell you not to end your pathetic, laughable, utterly worthless existence (because odious twerps like you are a perpetual source of delicious lol milk), but you seem to be literally too stupid to live. Do the right thing, anon; relieve the world of the burden you've placed upon it. Do it NOW.

>> No.6124902

Shit thread.

>> No.6124926

>>6124902
Still seething

>> No.6126534

>>6120760
Well sure, it can give you long droughts. But my point was that it's at least possible to play a perfect game for a long stretch. That you can, by your own skill mostly, keep the screen orderly, effectively "solving" the puzzle. Whereas Puyo Puyo and other stack-em-ups call themselves puzzle games but they're way less precise, and... well, I've pretty much exhausted every adjective I could think of to describe it, but suffice to say it's messy and Tetris is not.
>>6120776
I'm not saying it's any less enjoyable than Tetris for those reasons, just stating why I think Tetris is the superior puzzle game (and only because the OP chose to shit on Tetris in the OP when he could've just kept his mouth shut and had a nice Columns thread).
>>6123804
Panel de Pon is another game where you can "solve" the puzzle, i.e. clear the screen and not be forced to place mismatched tiles on each other, so yeah, I'd agree it's superior to any stack-em-up.

>> No.6127134

>>6126534
>But my point was that it's at least possible to play a perfect game for a long stretch.
You can play Columns for long stretches as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkVyZ2xrQL8

Your problem is you need to git gud and stop sucking off Shitris.

>> No.6127171

I think Tetris is a better game. It's a shade simpler to grasp. The holy grail of video games has to be that you can learn the game in a couple of minutes, but not be bored of it, even in a couple of years. When you fill those criteria, anyone can play it, and will keep playing it.

>> No.6127227

>>6116878
I like both but enjoy puyopuyo more

>> No.6127462

>>6127134
>he still doesn't get it
I didn't say you couldn't play it for long stretches. I said you couldn't play it PERFECTLY for long stretches, because the game's very design forces you to make mistakes (i.e. put mismatched tiles on each other) and dig your way out. Whereas in Tetris, even in a drought a very skilled player can think of ways to keep the screen relatively orderly and error-free. The "logic" behind a good game of Tetris goes beyond just "gee, I hope I get the right tiles so I can get rid of these blocks", it's a game of sliding blocks into cracks and leveling out the screen. It's a game where, with not only luck but skill, you CAN get to the bottom of a mess without making any further tile mismatches. Thus, as far as PUZZLE games go, Tetris has a superior design.

I don't know how else to explain to this you. Keep on putting down Tetris all you want, but my preference of it over stack-em-ups has nothing to do with skill, it's that Tetris is a superior, easier to grasp design, that as a puzzle game both exercises your mind more than stack-em-ups and rewards you by making it possible to clear the screen even after it's been filled with blocks (see: Game B on NES Tetris).

>> No.6129365

>>6127462
I see what you're saying now. I prefer Puyo, but I can appreciate that aspect of Tetris. I wouldn't say it necessarily exercises your mind more, but it's cool.

>> No.6129376

>>6116878
I just bought the M2 port of Columns 2 on Switch. I haven't played it in nearly 30 years and holy shit it is so much faster than Tetris. How to git gud?

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>>6120738
>>6120970
You can collect waifus in the Sega Ages version of Collumns 2 in Switch
(Also it comes with classic Collumns)

>> No.6130528

>>6116902
truely a mystery

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>>6116878
Any puzzle game with chains will make my peepee hard

>>6120738
it has at least one

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>>6120738