When does it get good?

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Anonymous Sun Dec 29 13:12:25 2019 No.6100485 [Reply] [Original]

When does it get good?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 29 13:13:17 2019 No.6100487 >>6100485 When you turn it off.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 29 13:21:47 2019 No.6100508 File: 258 KB, 800x1127, IMG_6172.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6100485 Asha has a nice butt and mc hammer aladdin poofy floof pants.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 29 13:24:17 2019 No.6100516 There's no need to force yourself to continue playing a game if you don't find it enjoyable. No one is going to judge you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 29 13:24:32 2019 No.6100518 File: 387 KB, 1152x2048, B3B3C5FE-677C-4B6A-84E2-B5856EC5D8F9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6100485

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 29 21:46:44 2019 No.6101295 >>6100485 >Ice Pyramid Dropping this shit now

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 29 22:05:25 2019 No.6101320 >>6101295 >Dropping the best part of the game

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 29 22:08:10 2019 No.6101325 >>6100485 never, this is the kind of game you have to be a child or a severely autistic weeb to derive enjoyment from

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 29 22:15:29 2019 No.6101335 No.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 29 22:16:58 2019 No.6101339 Instantly, ice pyramid is the only weak point everything before then is god tier and everything after that is god tier.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 01:25:07 2019 No.6101578 when you get the pepe jump, it stops being good once you lose that

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 01:56:57 2019 No.6101608 starts good, but then gets shit when they nerf Pepelogo for the ice pyramid level what kind of game reduces the ability of a powerup? that's a shit way to increase difficulty

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:09:46 2019 No.6102708 >>6100485 >When does it get good It does, in a way.. but certainly not as quickly as Wonderboy 5. now that was a game!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:21:05 2019 No.6102731 This game is universally acclaimed, is on every 'recommended games' site yet besides looking very cute it wasn't that interesting

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:18:03 2019 No.6102926 Currently playing monster world 3. Whyd they lose Wonder Boy in 4?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:21:09 2019 No.6102931 >>6102926 feminism

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 21:19:37 2019 No.6103279

>>6102926
>>6102931
A character select (the boy from sky palace), more weapons and locations were planned. Cartridge prices and budget cuts doomed those plans.

>no Wonder Boy
Two distinct series in Japan.
Chaotic branding. It's like when the Wario Land series grew as a malignant tumor from Mario Land 3 and became its own thing, except that here, due to the Master System's failure, some games never released in Japan initially the way they were supposed to be.

>Wonder Boy
>Wonder Boy in Monster Land (begun the Monster World subseries)
>Wonder Boy III Monster Lair

and

>Wonder Boy in Monster Land, again - renamed in Japan to "Super Wonder Boy: Monster WORLD"
>Monster World II : The Dragon's Trap
>Wonder Boy V: Monster World III
>Monster World IV

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 06:42:25 2019 No.6104069 In short, there's really only one Wonderboy game. the rest are all part of the new "Monster" series but had Wonderboy tagged on to draw in fans of WB.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 07:22:00 2019 No.6104118 >>6104069 Two.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 08:46:03 2019 No.6104184 >>6104118 I take it you're referring to "Wonder Boy III: Monster Lair"? I guess that's a true WB game, bit confusing since the art style resembles the later Monster games. oh Westone why so confusing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 08:51:30 2019 No.6104186 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACiA1TX0tvA

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 12:43:08 2019 No.6104727

I'm a pretty big fan of most of the WonderBoy games, a few of them I really hnnnng over. (the ones with the shops, upgrades, cocktails... you know.) MWIV tho, is easily one of the worst games imo. It just feels like they tried to get it right in the middle of the platform/arcade style and the 'rpg' style WB games and in doing so just missed out in the ways they hit in the previous games.
I was ready to stick up for and love this game when I first found it years back, shit! Some of the reviews of the thing had me dribbling! I mean, I fucking LOVED the earlier Megadrive/Genesis WonderBoy in MW game too but, shit I don't think I even managed to finish it the first three or four times I tried to. Meh. Maybe it's not quite as bad as I remember it, but then again, maybe it is. No, I think it is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 12:46:50 2019 No.6104737 >>6104727 >I fucking LOVED the earlier Megadrive/Genesis WonderBoy in MW game Wait. Hang on... Think I fucked up. Yeah, that one was AFTER this one, I think, just not in the Western markets. Right?

Anonymous Wed Jan 1 10:19:59 2020 No.6106695
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>>6100485
I really love MWIV. Teh gameplay might be a bit clunky and the game doesn't give you that much freedom of exploration, bt i find it really fun and charming.
I don't really get the hate for the ice Pyramid, it's the only dungeon that feels like an ACTUAL dungeon, with lots of exploration and even a map, all of the others feel like an obstacle course.
And for that matter, I don't get why this game is so criticised while The Dragon's Trap gets so much praise, most of the map is literally straight lines with an enemy or a trap here and there, and too much bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 15:17:26 2020 No.6108925 File: 13 KB, 768x672, Image.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You can deny it, but this was peak comfy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 15:22:42 2020 No.6108929 Only good Monster World/Wonder Boy game

Anonymous Thu Jan 2 15:26:35 2020 No.6108931

>>6100485

Which of the Monster world and Wonder boy games are worth playing? I've found them interesting and love the kind of explore world types. But I never played any.

Also what is the difference between this and Adventure Island series? One seems to be about cave men but the other seems medieval based with monsters.

Anonymous Thu Jan 2 17:06:22 2020 No.6109083
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>>6108931
>Also what is the difference between this and Adventure Island series? One seems to be about cave men but the other seems medieval based with monsters.
First there was Wonder Boy, an arcade game developed by Westone and published by Sega, it was a game about a cute little blonde caveman kid. Then Hudson got the rights for releasing it on the NES, they renamed the game to Adventure Island and changed the caveman kid to an ugly guy with a cap.
Then Sega/Westone decided to make a dramatic change to the series, making it more about medieval fantasy, and using seevral different names such as Monster World, Monster Land, Monster Lair or more recently, Monster Boy, but all still part of the Wonder Boy series.
Meanwhile, Hudson kept making Adventure Island games on their own, somewhat retaining the stone age atmosphere, but completely separated from the mainline Wonder Boy games.

Anonymous Thu Jan 2 17:44:56 2020 No.6109115

>>6109083

Wow that's needlessly confusing. So other than 1 game Adventure Island and Wonder boy has no connection to each other?

The main series has a confusing naming system at least! So there's the Wonder Boy series with a whole host of names. They should have a standard naming style like Wonder Boy 1: Monder Land, etc.

I've been reading up and the PC Engine version of Dragon's Trap is unique too? Confusing.

Okay which games are worth playing?

Anonymous Thu Jan 2 18:02:01 2020 No.6109149

>>6109115
I thought the PCE version of Dragon's Trap, called Dragon's Curse, was just a reskin? They released Dynastic Hero too, which I thought was a reskin of Monster World. Bikkuriman World is Monsterland reskinned. I heard Sega wanted to protect the IP/name, but Westone owned the rights to the content. But then Monster Lair, the sidescrolling shooter was released under that name on PCE, so IDK really.

IMO all worth playing. Very seminal. Monster Lair is worth a look too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 18:06:51 2020 No.6109152 >>6103279 Dragon's Trap on SMS/MarkIII was only Wonder Boy III in the English version then?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 18:14:53 2020 No.6109165 >>6109152 >>6109149 Oh boy that makes things even more confusing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 18:38:32 2020 No.6109202 >>6109149 Dragon's Trap PC Engine version was called "Adventure Island" in Japan to make things even more confusing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 18:45:48 2020 No.6109214 >>6109165 Not really, they're all just reskins, i think.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 18:48:31 2020 No.6109223 >>6109214 Reskins means what exactly? Same levels different graphics?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 18:56:08 2020 No.6109239 I still can't beat the lava world boss. I figured out the pattern for the first phase, but once he's hanging from the ceiling and spinning around I quickly die

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 18:57:59 2020 No.6109249 >>6109223 yus, same game, pictures changed. Backgrounds and levels very similar, character designs different but same size, reach, jump-height. All changed for IP reasons.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 19:01:34 2020 No.6109260 >>6109202 Wasn't it just called dragons curse on the turbografx?

Anonymous Thu Jan 2 19:35:00 2020 No.6109315

Yeah this game is peak comfy while you can still carry Pepe around, when he's too heavy to lift it loses something but steps up the puzzles and level design.

Beat Dynastic Hero recently, I forgot what it did differently to Monster World and the answer is - not a whole lot really. The cd music is really forgettable where as MW had memorable tunes. Gonna say bug armor dude in DH grew on me, I always liked the town of dragons in MW which is replaced with a town of fairies, and the musical references to the final castle being the Dragon's Trap one are lost. Weird redone final boss too, which loses the conveyor belt gimmick entirely. Heck, all the bosses are different. Dat English opening song tho:
https://youtu.be/s-FScB2Qlvs

Japanese one loses the cheese, gains warm 90s anime fuzzies. Catchy as fuck too, wish there was a longer version. https://youtu.be/dv_klJqmtsI

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 19:46:36 2020 No.6109334 File: 510 KB, 700x700, reaction slav girl.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6109260 >turbografx

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 19:47:39 2020 No.6109335 >>6109315 >Dyanstic Hero There's another port with another name!? I can't keep this shit straight. Someone needs to make a chart.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 21:00:14 2020 No.6109465 >>6108925 I watch a playthrough every week on Wed. Brightens the day.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 21:31:27 2020 No.6109538 File: 82 KB, 642x483, RedFruit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6102926 Better question Why did they lose the name Wonder Boy AND the name monster world in 5?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 21:32:31 2020 No.6109541 >>6108925 This was definitely my favorite game on the Wii Virtual Console.

Anonymous Thu Jan 2 22:08:37 2020 No.6109593

>>6108925
Love that game, but I played it like 3 times in a row one time because it was so good that I just can't force myself to play the game again because I burned myself out permanently from playing it too much that one time. I literally get nauseous if I try to play it now.

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 03:36:10 2020 No.6109967

>>6108931
There's many series.

1 - Wonder Boy (Westone)
Basic platformer. Only three games. First one, then Monster Land that started its own series, then a final one for Arcades. Got many ports, and a recent PC remake.

2 - Monster World (Westone)
Metroidvania-lite. Four games (Land, Dragon's Trap, Wonder Boy in Monster World, MW IV). Started from Monster Land then became its own thing. Recently, the second game (Dragon's Trap) got a remake, then a decent-ish continuation (MW5) was rebranded thrice, released as Monster Boy.

3 - Adventure Island (Hudson)
Port of the first Wonder Boy, then started its own series. Basic platformer for the most part, but Hudson had a pale imitation of the Monster World formula in two games (IV, Super 2) All are average to good.

4 - Rebanded Monster World Ports (various)
- Hudson: First 3 MW games got ports to the TG-16 and mobile with inconsistent new brands.
- TecToy: First 3 MW games got localized with Monica, a local Brazilian cartoon heroine. Someone did an amazing mod of Dragon's Trap 2017 with new hand-drawn animated sprites based on her.
- Jaleco: First MW game (Land) ported as Sayuki World to the Famicom. Sega didn't appreciate. There's an original second Sayuki World (aka Womp 'Em) but it's a basic platformer.

tl;dr: unoriginal inferior ports, except Sayuki World 2 which is original but average.

>>6109538
It started and sold itself as a sequel of a basic flash shooter AND a CLONE of MW, on a Kickstarter campaign which failed before an editor saved it, then Sega and some MW staff got involved, but the dev team insisted on "The Wizard of Booze" subtitle for the game, before relenting (but you can see in the game the remnants of the original plot)
Too many MW references, and the Sega copyright, to be unrelated. Maybe sega was worried about their brand (i can see why they would be pessimistic, even if it turned out good), or the other two remakes for Monster World 2 AND Wonder Boy complicated the name rights.

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 09:37:32 2020 No.6110210
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>>6109967
>Sayuki World (aka Womp 'Em) but it's a basic platformer.

Whomp Em is tied into this?

Someone needs to make a chart that looks like an evolutionary tree for this game series.

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 11:35:04 2020 No.6110352

>>6110210
>Whomp Em is tied into this?

In a way yeah, Sayuki World 1 is pretty much a reskin of Wonderboy in Monsterworld, then Sayuki got a sequel Sayuki 2 which was then localized into English as Whomp 'em.

So in a weird way Whomp 'em is Wonder Boy in Monster Land II.
All we need to do is port Whomp 'em to the Master System and swap the art with Monster Land artwork and call it Monster Land II and the circle is complete!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 17:28:35 2020 No.6111059 >>6110352 The next Game Center CX episode is ____ World too. Wonder if it's Sayuki World?

Anonymous Sat Jan 4 03:52:39 2020 No.6111897

>>6110210
Someone did.
It's complicated as fuck because it listed each single game as its own entry.

Not unreasonable, because for some versions the individual version was multiplatform. For example, TecToy's Monica MW3 version was TWO ports on the Master System and the Megadrive.
Some rebrands are outright chaotic. One of the Hudson MW ports kept the original title on the TG16. Another Hudson MW port for cell phones renamed it Super Adventure Island. You can imagine the visual disaster that was that graph.

But yeah, that image needs to be redone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 20:40:10 2020 No.6113028 File: 19 KB, 176x286, download.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This game was the best in the series and the most balanced and yet everyone hates it because "flash game lol". Great remixes, and even the original songs were cool.

Anonymous Sun Jan 5 05:41:09 2020 No.6113568

>>6113028
Wtf are you even on. I only ever saw universal acclaim for it. Criticisms are minor, like weird western animation, inferior graphically to WB3 2017, small text, and some rushed development (ending, glitches) but it has the best gameplay in the series.

Maybe you mean the initial showing as Flying Hamster 2? That did look like a flash game. As for the average commercial performance and why no one talks about it, that's bad marketing. The geniuses at FDG promoted it primarily on ResetEra, which didn't care about it either.

I agree the game is awesome and deserves better. An even more polished sequel for example.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 07:58:31 2020 No.6113678 File: 170 KB, 1200x675, DtPZWNrWkAAFNAZ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6100485 Play the sequel, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 12:36:15 2020 No.6114012 >>6113028 I was put off by the flash look at first but grew to love it. Near perfect game, I think.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 12:38:03 2020 No.6114018 >>6113678 Man, that game gets difficult quick. I got frustrated and gave up at some ice-related jumping puzzle. Loved it otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 12:41:05 2020 No.6114021 >>6113678 >Previous series protagonists on the windows I love little callbacks like this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 23:22:59 2020 No.6115123 >>6114021 Huh...always thought the male protag is the same guy in the first three games at different ages and the girl was his and Pupuril's daughter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 01:01:19 2020 No.6115250 >>6115123 From what I can interpret, the first two Wonder Boys are the same person Tom-Tom, then Shion and Asha came after.

Anonymous Mon Jan 6 03:09:08 2020 No.6115354

>>6115250
Exactly.

WB: Tom-Tom as a child
Monster Land: Tom-Tom 11 years later
Dragon's Curse: Tom-Tom cursed

Monster Lair, from the first series, introduced Leo and Purapril. The descendants of that Purapril bore her name and ruled as queens in MW3 and MW4.
MW4 has a male hero as well, but he's not playable in the final version. He's the boy from the sky palace who seeks Asha's help exorcising the queen.

Tom-Tom's equipment was used by Shion in MW3, and Shion's sprites were used by Asha in MW4. It's neat how continuous the mythology in this series is.

I do hope they bring back either artists who can replicate the artstyle of MW4, or of the 2017 remake. Monster Boy looks cheap.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 14:41:51 2020 No.6116301 >>6100508 I wanna pants her and see her get pissed off!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 22:28:19 2020 No.6117210 >>6115354 Sad what canonically happens to Shion and his wife.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 23:38:35 2020 No.6117335 >>6100485 Finished the fire temple, the combination of easy + annoying gameplay made me turn it off for good.

Anonymous Tue Jan 7 03:18:13 2020 No.6117734

>>6117210
>Sad what canonically happens to Shion and his wife.
Death of old age?

Ah, you don't mean the meteorite crap referenced in MW4? Because that's pure bollocks made up by the older awful fan translation. Play the official 2012 English version, it's a direct translation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 7 08:47:13 2020 No.6118049 >>6100485 When you stop being a pleb

Anonymous Tue Jan 7 08:51:01 2020 No.6118053

>>6113028
The flash look is a flaw, but the game is outstanding nonetheless. The dungeon design is the best in the entire series. Nothing in the other games in the series comes close to certain dungeons in this game (the fire mountain dungeon, the haunted mansion, the forest temple). The biggest flaw of the game is a lack of backtracking.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 7 19:16:27 2020 No.6119135 >>6100485 >JRPGs >Good

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 8 00:12:12 2020 No.6119552 >>6117734 No, killed in an uprising iirc.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 8 00:40:28 2020 No.6119587 >>6119135 >JRPG

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 8 07:13:33 2020 No.6119975 >>6119552 >uprising ??? How? MW4 or Monster Boy make no mention of this. The Purapril clan reign went uninterrupted for 13 generations.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 8 22:07:37 2020 No.6121486 >>6119975 Heard it on here a year ago

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 9 21:42:13 2020 No.6123586 >>6100485 As soon as you turn the power on. >>6108925 Absolutely love the art direction in the series. I wish the UI wasn't so obnoxious in that game though.

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