/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6097529]

Can we discuss Atari?

What the fuck happened to them? They launched a pretty impressive handheld in the Atari Lynx and started developing the Panther and Jaguar simultaneously, but then scrapped the Panther and rush launched the Jaguar?

What the fuck were they thinking in the 80s and 90s? Why did they even try this shit?

[Anonymous No.6097538]

>>6097529
Mistakes were made. End of story.

[Anonymous No.6097551]

Let's not forget Atari was a ubiquitous joke by the mid 90s. They tried to comeback with the "edgy" Jaguar (64 bits!), too bad it sucked.

[Anonymous No.6097558]

what the hell, this looks like an inkjet printer

[Anonymous No.6097704]

>>6097558
that's extremely poor for an Atari sketch too, their 80s prototype sketches are aesthetic as fuck.

[Anonymous No.6097818]

>>6097529
The company that did that shit was literally a different company than the one in the early 80s.

[Anonymous No.6097909]

Is there 1 (one) good game on the Atari Juagar that either is exclusive or doesnt play amazingly better on another system?

[Anonymous No.6097929]

>>6097909
Iron Solder, Iron Soldier 2. Every other good exclusive got ported elsewhere after the Jaguar was abandoned by Atari.

[Anonymous No.6097936]

They never learned from their own mistakes and never learned how to adapt outside of the first years of the console market, thinking they could just skate on their name and history forever. Shit they still do that now, thinking that name means anything other than a cautionary tale to all but some oldfags close hitting their 50s

[Anonymous No.6097940]

>>6097529
The Lynx was realeased about twice as much $ as a gameboy, the gameboy was price about exactly as much as what most parents would spend on a christmas present. Many people wanted to lynx but got gameboy instead.

When the jaguar was launched in europe they had a choice of where to allocate stock, they decide that the USA was more important so they only gave the UK 25,000 consoles for christmas. There ended up being way more demand in europe and no one in USA wanted one but they didn't have any to sell.

Supposedly the atari 7800 had more sales than the master system in the USA but there were still a lot more games on sms so they let that go to waste.

[Anonymous No.6098258]

>>6097558
Some guy did that in his spare time. Someone 3D modeled it much better.

[Anonymous No.6098260]

[Anonymous No.6098261]

[Anonymous No.6098263]

He extrapolated vent placement and other stuff from Jaguar with the Panther shell.

[Anonymous No.6098278]

>Atari 7800
>Wider launch, even if it cost them money, get the name out

>Segue into Atari Panther in the early 90s
>With Atari Lynx as handheld

>Jaguar with disc drive in mid 90s

Fixed.

[Anonymous No.6098282]

>>6097940
I heard about the UK thing. What the fuck were they thinking?

[Anonymous No.6098282,1]

atari games are shit just looking any game they made is notable shit.

the problem was they didn't learn to make business and that caused problems in the future charging double the price to retailers for selling the hardware was a shitty practice not only that they demanded a % of winnings from said retail to them,local made parts made the hardware too expensive,third party companies refused to do whatever they wanted so no 3rd party games,faulty busineess practices leaded to their doom only that.

Lynx price was 4 times higher then a gameboy or gamegear and wasn't as good or had as many games as those not only that, design flaws made evident the problems in the portable bastard,batteries lasted less then gamegear and it required 3 times more batteries then gamegear on the other side gameboy required less batteries and batteries lasted more reason of why won the portable wars and the gamegear was close but because batteries didn't last enough compared to the gameboy nobody did anything,PV on TV was always about either the gameboy or gamegear i barelly remember a CM of lynx i remember the one for the jaguar that said "do the math" and only that one.

Atari is known for almost killing the videogames only for that even millenials know the name not because they were good,for example they got the offer to make the nintendo but they didn't agree with nintendo because they couldn't profit as much due to certain clauses nintendo demanded so the deal got finished in the end they got doomed because nintendo made something they couldn't replicate (always had the 5% of market share compared to nintendo or sega that had the biggest slices)

[Anonymous No.6098748]

>>6098260
>8 kbyte pcm ram
this has to be a typo, it could barely do more than 2 voices simultaneously with that much sound memory. My 1988 synth had more PCM memory than that.

[Anonymous No.6098763]

>>6097529
Atari outsourced work on the games and Jaguar/Lynx to Epyx, bled them dry and fucked off with the money.

[Anonymous No.6098769]

>>6098278
Yeah sounds nice on paper but what games? Think 90s kids were going to play Bentley Bear 64 or KC Munchkin 3D?

[Anonymous No.6101095]

>requesting games from your rival to market your video game
>using 16-bit games to promote your 32-bit platform
>"DO THE MATH!!!1111!!!!"
http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?32538-Sega-games-on-the-Atari-Jaguar
Cringe.

[Anonymous No.6101108]

>>6101095
>32 bit
Fuck, I meant 64-bit. There's Master System and Game Gear games on the list too.

[Anonymous No.6101328]

>>6097940
>Supposedly the atari 7800 had more sales than the master system in the USA but there were still a lot more games on sms so they let that go to waste.

Why didn't Atari port more of their computer and arcade games to the 7800?

Or at least make sequels of their better 2600 games for the 7800?

Or try to get Activision to make more games for the 7800.

[Anonymous No.6101338]

>>6101095
Nintendo, intellivision, Coleco and Sega made games for the 2600.

[Anonymous No.6101376]

>>6097818
The early 80's Atari was a Coke Party that shit out games like they were printing money.

[Anonymous No.6101379]

>>6097558
That looks like an Agent from Naked Lunch.

[Anonymous No.6101383]

>>6097909
AvP.

[Anonymous No.6101390]

>>6097529

[Anonymous No.6101392]

>>6101383
Man, that might be it too. It was genuinely fun when it came out. Other than that I really liked Nba Jam and Raiden on the Jaguar. Those aren't exclusives though.

[Anonymous No.6101512]

>>6101390
Even stranger, there appears to be a second set of stereo audio on the other side that's got the universal symbol for headphones. And those are normal looking RCA ports.

[Anonymous No.6101964]

>>6101390
they are ribbed for your pleasure.

[Anonymous No.6101971]

>>6097940
>>6098282
That's just Atari full stop isn't it? I remember they had these "Atari Trains" in the UK to promote the hell out of the lynx and show off some damned impressive games on the bright, colourful screens. To go to all the marketing effort and then NOT stock the shelves was just classic Atari.

[Anonymous No.6101978]

>>6101376
Yep, now imagine that you are hiring and promoting people based on sales of stuff that doesn't seem to have any rhyme nor reason to WHY it's selling, simultaneously alienating all the talent that did your handful of genuine successes and now imagine the type of person who would typify upper management in such a position 10 years later... Atari's Jaguar years doesn't sound so strange after all.

[Anonymous No.6101985]

>>6097529

Tell me about the hologram technology Al Alcorn was working on for Atari in the early 80's.

[Anonymous No.6102120]

>>6101985
Imagine the bastard spawn of a 70's LED game cracker jacks box tilt card rape

[Anonymous No.6102126]

>>6097529
They were shitty to game devs and underpaid them. They were hostile to literally everyone else in the industry. And we’re really really fucking bad with money. Everyone conspired to shut them down and they blew all of their money. No good engineers wanted to work with them so they went bye bye

[Anonymous No.6102150]

>>6101328
They shelved the 7800 for two years, making it redundant upon release.
A shame really, despite the shitty sound chip it does arcade ports well and deserved better from Atari.