/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6095916]

You should play a Breath of Fire game

[Anonymous No.6095919]

>>6095916
when I get my new rig in a week I plan on playing a bunch of games. this 10yr old rig isnt cutting it anymore

[Anonymous No.6097501]

>isn't a real goddess
>attacks with "holocaust" which also didn't happen

[Anonymous No.6097550]

>>6095916
Holy shit that sprite

[Anonymous No.6097553]

III or IV

[Anonymous No.6097561]

>>6097501
>bad guy is named zog

IT'S LIKE ANUDDA SHOAH

[Anonymous No.6097780]

>>6097550
Capcom's golden age

[Anonymous No.6097790]

>>6095916
Still hard to believe she is the younger and much weaker sister of Deis/Bleu

[Anonymous No.6097791]

Which one do you recommend?

[Anonymous No.6097882]

>>6097791
I recommend you kiss my ass

[Anonymous No.6098058]

>>6097791
Definitely 3, 1 and 2 are bad and, while pretty, 4 is misery from beginning to end and severely downgrades the gameplay from 3.

[Anonymous No.6098079]

All I know about it is that a shit ton of the party members are furries and other anthros. Otherwise it's a pretty typical JRPG franchise.

[Anonymous No.6098120]

>>6097561
The good guys win

[Anonymous No.6098129]

Holy shit snake titties

[Anonymous No.6098179]

>>6095916
>THICC

[Anonymous No.6098281]

I'll play em when they get translation patches

[Anonymous No.6098284]

>>6098129
imbecile

[Anonymous No.6098553]

>>6098058
>4 is misery from beginning to end
did we play the same game? It was a somewhat easy but highly enjoyable game to me. Tons of great music, very pleasing visual style, funny characters that make the world feel alive, etc. I dunno what your major complaint is besides I dunno, having to play a mario party mini game all of 3 times?

[Anonymous No.6098761]

>>6098179
>when the final boss's belly starts to bulge

[Anonymous No.6099205]

>>6098553
The story is and the ending is the worst.

[Anonymous No.6099249]

>>6095916
>tfw my 14 year old cousin started playing BoF II on his Switch

Man, the little bastard might be a moron, but goddamn if he doesn't have some good taste.

[Anonymous No.6099375]

>>6098553
4 is absolutely fucking beautiful but it's a feelcoaster from the beginning to the end.
3 is much happier than that.

yet in the good ending you trade slavery for the planet's doom, way to go

[Anonymous No.6099459]

>>6098281
Retard.
>>6099205
IV's ending is amazing. It not having a perfect fairy tale ending where everyone lives happily ever after is what really makes it stand out. Yuna living adds genuine weight to Fou-Lu's viewpoint. Ryu and Fou-Lu, and thus the player, had experienced and the absolute worst that humanity has to offer, Yuna living is the ultimate message that in life villains don't always go punished, and Fou-Lu's genuine rage against humanity's sins feels genuinely compelling.

It's not perfect but as I've become older it's one of the few jrpg narratives I feel is truly compelling and interesting.
>>6099375
BoFIII has some pretty depressing stuff, all the stuff with Teepo is a downer, though it's much less of a focus in III.

[Anonymous No.6099464]

>>6099459
I can't believe Ershin is fucking dead.

[Anonymous No.6099470]

>>6099464
Ursula is sitting on him, you can see his eye between Ryu and Nina.

[Anonymous No.6099572]

>>6099459
Unused stuff hints that they planned Yuna to be a boss and he'd be killed. So Capcom probably didn't let him live to kick us in the nuts, they just ran out of dev time.

[Anonymous No.6099581]

>>6099572
There's nothing in the game's files suggesting it, though I believe Capcom has said he was suppose to. Even if unintended him living was genius.

[Anonymous No.6099906]

>>6099572
I've never seen hard evidence for this, only forum posts.

[Anonymous No.6099949]

>>6099249
based cousin

[Anonymous No.6099950]

Which breath of fire should I start with?

[Anonymous No.6099974]

https://youtu.be/NbpKavuk3Ts?t=4733

>from the composer who heard final fantasy 7

[Anonymous No.6100245]

>>6099950
If you want to start with the best one, start 3 or 4 I suppose.

For something a bit out of the norm, try Dragon Quarter, but it's not representative of the rest of the series.

[Anonymous No.6100440]

>>6099974
>Cedar Woods
Holy plagiarism, Batman!

[Anonymous No.6100483]

>>6097780
Anyone else think it is quite comical that frogs were localized to sound french?

[Anonymous No.6101616]

>>6099205
>he got the bad ending

[Anonymous No.6101657]

mah boffu

[Anonymous No.6101841]

>>6101616
That is the "good" ending

[Anonymous No.6102174]

>>6101841
Fucking love Yoshikawa's art

[Anonymous No.6102182]

This series is dead, right.
Capcom doesn't care anymore.

[Anonymous No.6102189]

>>6100440
>>6099974
plagiarism?

[Anonymous No.6102317]

>>6102182
Nobody ever cared because the series was wasted potential.

[Anonymous No.6102870]

>>6102317
You're just wrong on both accounts.

[Anonymous No.6102952]

>>6102174
It's insane that he isn't more famous, his work is phenomenal.
>>6102182
Ever since BoFVI bombed Capcom basically decided it's not something worth their time. The last time they even mentioned BoF was about a year ago, a character in SFV got a Katt costume.

[Anonymous No.6102965]

>>6102952
It's such a shame that artists don't catalogue their published work. You always have to hunt down disparate smaller collections of images.

[Anonymous No.6103418]

>>6102952
>Ever since BoFVI bombed
BoFVI was designed to bomb, Capcom made the shittiest sequel possible to have their excuse to drop the franchise forever

[Anonymous No.6103440]

>>6095916
I have, Breath of Fire V. I haven't played the others because I'm not interested in bog standard JRPGs.

[Anonymous No.6104043]

Wish 4 expanded the dragon system from 3 instead of gimping it back to BOF1 levels.

[Anonymous No.6104114]

>>6104043
The gene system is overrated as fuck. You would only ever use it for bosses since normal battles were never worth the cost of using it and for when you did use it you would always just throw together whatever seems strongest. IV's battle system and the way comboing and combining attacks works blows III's dragon genes out of the water.

[Anonymous No.6104280]

>>6095916
I've been playing 1 and the translation is cryptic.
Older JRPGs feel like you're trying to figure out the puzzle of cryptic clues before anything else.
I forgot about fishing. Everything seems so obtuse. Getting a rod you need to get Ryu's equipment by poking around searching in a castle jail.
Fishing in 2 wells with Rod5 to get that shit. I think you need it to get the second dragon forms too?
I'm older now, but it just seems like such a huge time waste.
2 was always ok, I need to finish 3, and I always loved 4.
1 feels like I'm fucking playing Gaygoyle's Quest or something with those clues and the shitty over world map.

[Anonymous No.6105221]

>>6104114
The gene system isn't overrated, it's very good and it's meant for boss fights.

[Anonymous No.6105226]

>>6104280
It's cryptic and weird because of the translation being shit, granted it's not a fantastic game but it sure is charming and full of character.

[Anonymous No.6105857]

Been playing 1 and it's a bit of a bore. Some neat ideas though.

Wish I'd actually emulated instead of using real hardware, a fast forward function would let me enjoy this game way more.

[Anonymous No.6105870]

>>6105221
IV's combo system is practical enough to use in random encounters, the gene system isn't. I can understand why someone might prefer III over IV but seeing people prefer III's battle system is just bizarre to me.
>>6105857
BoFI really is kind o a bore. II is a more interesting game and has some neat ideas but it suffers from some poor design choices that hold it back from being a top tier jrpg I feel.

[Anonymous No.6106095]

>>6105221
You just use the same combo every fight except you switch the elements around, and you know it. Also, the best combo being a Ryu recolor is bullshit.

[Anonymous No.6106150]

>>6105870
Is 2 better than 1? Is it just quality of life stuff that holds it back?

[Anonymous No.6106212]

>>6106150
I would say BoFII is a much better game, though it does have some annoyances. The encounter rate is pretty bad and made worse by the game having a lot of backtracking. Some mechanics, like the shaman system, also feel sort of janky in that it wares off if you reach critical health or die. It does have it however. It was one of the earliest jrpgs to do the whole "there is a corrupt religion that is trying to ruin the world" and it has great character moments thanks to a charming and diverse cast. It's a solid jrpg held back by a lack of refinement, it could be a top tier jrpg on the system but just doesn't quite reach the heights of something like Chrono Trigger.

If you do play it I absolutely suggest using the fan translation. Square Enix published the first BoF outside of Japan and handled the translation, doing a dry but decent job. The second game however was translated by Capcom themselves and is legendary for just how bad it is. Sections where "yes" and "no" are swapped, entire lines being removed or having a meaning different from the original, various plot details being lost, and flat out incorrect information make it a genuine contender for the worst localization of any game ever made.

[Anonymous No.6106608]

>>6105226
Yeah, my wife has been watching alongside, and getting frustrated with the translation.
It really is more of a puzzle trying to navigate.
True, that's what keeps me invested in all of these games. I first played 2 because of how bizarre the party looked.

[Anonymous No.6107047]

I replayed BoF1 a couple days ago. I used to recommend it since I can only remember the fun high points that set it apart from other JRPGs, but now I can say it's mostly shit. There's some nice ideas but the later games have most of what it does and does everything better.

Field abilities are pointless as the game has no puzzles so instead the field abilities usually just have you doing some time-wasting character swapping in the menu. Fusion is cool, but the fusions have no downsides and you have characters that eventually serve as fusion fodder. There's also that one fusion that'ts only acquired past the one point of the game where you can use it.

Dungeons are usually straight forward outside of some real bullshit sections where the game just expects you to rely on guesswork to progress. There's usually no rhyme or reason to where the correct path is and if you take the wrong path then you sometimes get thrown down two or more floors and have to go back up to maybe take the right path the next time. The only cool dungeon in the entire game is Tock but the game ruins that by making you have to go through Tock twice.

And finally, this is a problem across most of the BoF games but it likes to break its own momentum a lot. The most notable example is the shitty money grinding for gold bars and nonsense random fetch quests they throw at you. A funny example of the latter I noticed is when the game has you spend maybe a full minute going up Scande with ominous music playing in the background only to tell you that you need to get an ultimately unnecessary item from another town to progress any further so you then spend another minute going down the tower to get the item and then spend another minute going back up the tower.

BoF1 is decent, but it actively trying to waste your time outside of its occasional high points is a real turnoff. It's not worth it unless you really want to see where the series came from since it might turn you off of playing more.

[Anonymous No.6107390]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb6PIjrC1ek

[Anonymous No.6107486]

>>6107390
Raging Emperor's Banquet is one of my favorite final boss themes. It's such an interesting mix of intensity and beautiful, the citar solo always kills me.

[Anonymous No.6108723]

>>6097780
Give me zee.. massage.. yes?

[Anonymous No.6108727]

I had such fun playing these. I think I liked 3 better but 4 had such great graphics.

[Anonymous No.6108728]

SOUL

[Anonymous No.6108932]

>>6108723
There's a porn gif made of this scene with the ingame sprite artstyle, very well animated too.

[Anonymous No.6109061]

>>6107047
BoF1 is the one game in the series that would really benefit from a proper remake where they use the rest of the series as a blueprint for how to fix the first one. BoF2 could also use that treatment, but not near as bad as BoF1. I still like both of them though.

[Anonymous No.6109067]

>>6108932
The best stuff from BoF is all the Rei and Cray bara, also Ruy stuff from 1, 2, and 4.

[Anonymous No.6109146]

Actually doing a playthrough of Breath of Fire 3 right now. Enjoying it quite a bit.

[Anonymous No.6110593]

>>6108728
Giving Ryu green pants was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.6111141]

>>6110593
Would jeans have been better? Or perhaps cargo shorts?

[Anonymous No.6111143]

>>6111141
Green isn't part of his color scheme

[Anonymous No.6111306]

>>6111143
And what exactly makes a character a "part of a color scheme" that one must follow for all of eternity in your eyes?

[Anonymous No.6111336]

Is the PSP port of BoF III better than the original version?

[Anonymous No.6111343]

>>6108932
Link?

[Anonymous No.6111348]

>>6111336
It's exactly the same, but since PSP doesn't have IV you should get the PS1 version of III to have both in the same place.

[Anonymous No.6111367]

>>6109146
I might quit BoF3 because of how slow it is, and training Beyd seems like such a god awful part of the main storyline. Like why have THIS as a mandatory part of the game?

[Anonymous No.6111369]

>>6111348
Gotcha, thanks!

[Anonymous No.6111724]

>>6111336
>>6111348
>>6111369
The psp version actually has some changes. The music is superior on the psp version of III as more instruments are used, making songs overall sound better. Sadly there is some censorship, some scenes like the horse brothers taking a piss on the side of a mountain were removed, and there is some slowdown during certain spell animations. Nothing major is lost in the port but still.

[Anonymous No.6112692]

>>6111724
>horse brothers taking a piss on the side of a mountain
I don't remember that in PS1

[Anonymous No.6112720]

>>6112692
It's a little after they birn down Ryu, Rei, and Teepo's hideout. I think the sprite was edited to not imply he was pissing off the side of the mountain, a minor but strange change.

[Anonymous No.6112735]

>>6112720
they don't censor Momo's implied rape at all though

I guess even a narc can't knowingly lead children into the fuck room by pretending it doesn't exist

[Anonymous No.6112741]

>>6112735
delete this, Momo is pure and did NOT get XXXX'd

[Anonymous No.6114548]

Played Dragon Quarter and thoroughly enjoyed it. But hated the sudden introduction of Absolute Defense late game.

Do prior BoF titles do that as well and pull a completely new mechanic out of nowhere in the end game?

[Anonymous No.6114664]

>>6114548
No, but older games also play almost nothing like it.

[Anonymous No.6114884]

>>6114664
>No
Good, that was annoying
>but older games also play almost nothing like it.
That I'm aware of. Probably just going to jump to IV next though.

[Anonymous No.6114913]

>>6112741
t. seething weretiger

[Anonymous No.6114987]

>>6101841
Top monster looks like a monster hunter monster

[Anonymous No.6115109]

>>6097790
Is that ever explained?

[Anonymous No.6115115]

>>6111143
Karate hobo pants are best

[Anonymous No.6115117]

>>6115109
Not overtly. Just that Deis is perhaps on of the oldest beings in the world and Myria is something LIKE unto an Endless. It's more likely that the term "sister' was Deis just giving the false god something akin to compassion and understanding in their final moments.

[Anonymous No.6115136]

>>6115117
Final moments? You said they may be Endless? Anyway, seemed more like a "I told you so" than anything else.

[Anonymous No.6115221]

>>6115136
Deis is a flat out endless. This is confirmed. Myria is up in the air if she's an actual god or a fake one.

[Anonymous No.6115429]

Finished 1. Was kind of a slog but I heard that after 2 the games get really good.

Are the games connected? Is there any sort of timeline, or is each just its own world?

[Anonymous No.6115452]

>>6115429
>Are the games connected? Is there any sort of timeline

1,2,3 are independent games but often make direct references. 4 and 5 only fit in via fan theories.