/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6092963]

Hidden Palace will dump a new prototype every day until January 2nd. Hoarding is dead.

https://hiddenpalace.org/Holiday_2019

[Anonymous No.6092971]

Any games of note being dumped?

[Anonymous No.6092975]

>>6092963
Fingers crossed on Vertexer

[Anonymous No.6092982]

>>6092975
Oh sweatie. You know it's just going to be more lame prototypes of Sonic games.

[Anonymous No.6092986]

>>6092982
Dear god no

[Anonymous No.6093685]

>>6092971
We don't know until they show the games on stream
>>6092982
Unlikely. They already had a Sonic Month, these prototypes are called "Holiday 2019" so I doubt that they'd focus on Sonic. Maybe 1 of them is Sonic though

[Anonymous No.6093836]

For the three people that care, today's game was revealed to be the unreleased Akira game for the Mega Drive/Genesis:
https://segaretro.org/Akira

[Anonymous No.6093840]

>>6093836
rip that anon that put an ungodly amount of time tracking this shit down

[Anonymous No.6093841]

>>6093836
didn't someone on /vr/ make a thread recently about tracking down the cancelled Akira games?

[Anonymous No.6093852]

I was the underbidder on the Akira GB lot auction earlier in the year, but I guess those are lost now.

[Father Electronics Couture No.6093872]

>>6093836
Oh shit

>>6093840
>>6093841
This. I wonder if that guy was a part of the palace effort.

This plus those Sega Model 1 coprocessor dumps has this shaping up to be a truly nice holiday season for retro gaming - no tacky jammies or embarrassing Mario cap necessary.

[Anonymous No.6093878]

>>6093836
>https://hiddenpalace.org/Holiday_2019
Doesn't look like it was really finished. That floating platform scene just hits a dead end.

[Anonymous No.6093948]

Some screenshots and more information has been released:
https://hiddenpalace.org/News/Holiday_2019_(Day_1)_-_A.D._2019_-_AKIRA_(Sega_Mega_Drive)

[Anonymous No.6093950]

Download link here: https://hiddenpalace.org/w/images/1/1b/Akira_%28Prototype%29.zip

[Anonymous No.6094618]

Very cool

[Anonymous No.6094624]

Is there a reason the hoarders stopped hording?

[Anonymous No.6094627]

>>6094624
I believe that few game preservation societies we created in the past few years and industry employees and journalists just started giving out things and some of those things are prototype games.
As far as I can tell hoarders never changed their mind.

[Anonymous No.6094629]

>>6093840
>>6093841
I'm fairly sure that's the same guy, since he said to look forward to Christmas.

[Anonymous No.6094828]

>>6094624
boomers hoarding this shit started dropping dead from obesity, cancer, etc

[Anonymous No.6094853]

>>6094828
And their collections get thrown in the trash when their landlord clears out their apartment since they have no children or close family members.

[Anonymous No.6094854]

>>6092975
That would be a dream.

>>6093948
Hope some rips the music soon.
https://youtu.be/QbHcqrAFseQ?t=2490

[Father Electronics Couture No.6094862]

>>6094853
So... You're saying someone needs to start tomb raiding these places when RIP posts get made on those forums? Probably the most isolated ones never even are known to have died, just faded away. Maybe someone should set up a "welfare check" system.

[Anonymous No.6094908]

>>6094862
Why wait until they're dead?

[Father Electronics Couture No.6094921]

>>6094908
Because otherwise they'll maul you like a mama bear protecting her cubs

[Anonymous No.6094929]

>>6094921
Nah man, just bust in there. https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/04/after-a-lost-atari-rom-leaks-retro-fans-ask-was-it-stolen/

[Anonymous No.6094930]

>>6094921
he cute

[Anonymous No.6094934]

>>6093836
Oh, man. Good for the guy who was looking for this.

[Anonymous No.6094939]

>>6094624
The reason a lot of these games were unreleased is just because nobody gave enough of a shit to track down the original staff and ask if they still had a copy laying around. Which they tend to, more often than not. Nowadays there's more interest in the subject of unreleased games, so people are putting int the effort.

[Anonymous No.6094969]

>>6094939
You also have to hope that the developers who held on to the prototypes don't care that their stuff is actually worth a decent amount. Some other former developers do indeed have stuff, but instead of giving it away decide to sell on ebay.

[Anonymous No.6094986]

>>6092975
I'm still holding out for Beavis and Butthead arcade

[Anonymous No.6094987]

>>6092963
>https://hiddenpalace.org/Holiday_2019
Gimme Vertexer, Marble Madness 2 or RoadRunner Laserdisc and i would be happy.

[Anonymous No.6094998]

>>6094987
>Vertexer
Never ever.

[Anonymous No.6095000]

What the fuck, hoard bros? Did we lose?

[Anonymous No.6095004]

>>6095000
who are you even talking to

[Anonymous No.6095046]

>>6094862
It’s mostly older dudes, in their mid 40 to 50s, with a moderate amount of disposable income who are buying prototype games. I’ve spent enough time on Nintendoage to get a sense of the demographics of the market. The people who collect and control and artificially inflate their collections by making fraudulent transactions and spreading rumours are the same people buyimg prototypes and pallets of sealed Nintendo games and shit. They are definitely scared, worried and I am happy about that. These people are absolute scum and they’re always trying to do some sneaky shit when someone tries to break up their shitty little parade. There was a guy on the nintendoage forums who had several pallets, like, literally entire shipments of hang tab black box nes games and he was going to basically decimate the market value of sealed NES black tab boxes by putting them on the market, and the admins banned him from the website to stop him from disrupting the market.

[Anonymous No.6095057]

>>6095046
What's stopping him from releasing them anyway? I'd do it just as a big "Fuck you" to those assholes.

[Anonymous No.6095082]

>>6095004
My hoard pals. We are losing more and more each day.

[Anonymous No.6095165]

>>6094998
ffs, do the morally correct thing to do. Preservation.

[Anonymous No.6095183]

>>6094929
KEK Loving how triggered collectorfag trio is, yet none of them know how to service their own machines and the vocal bitch admits to theft (dumpster diving). Looking forward to the day an unscrupulous company like EA sues these twats, who've illegally obtained their unreleased prototypes and reacquire them at no cost. Like NASA did to space suit collectors.

[Anonymous No.6095202]

Fuck, I can't sleep at night because I'm so nervous that someone might upload my rare gems one day

[Anonymous No.6095209]

>>6095202
I wonder, are there any real hoarders on /vr/ or are they all RPing like you?

[Anonymous No.6095213]

>>6095209
I've seen quite a few who seemed legit

[Anonymous No.6095263]

>>6095165
Shou will release it when he feels like it. lol

[Anonymous No.6095269]

>>6094929
>>6095183
>believing the "it was totally stolen!" story
There's a limited number of known machines of that game. It takes time to dump and properly document the machine to have the MAMEdevs be able to emulate it. The machines are in the hands of known hoarders who only sell or trade with other known hoarders. Anyone dumping it would be shunned by them, and couldn't get access to more.
>guy in hoarding community hires repair guy to fix a machine
>game not needing repairs gets dumped and documented well enough to work under MAME
>owner claims he needs to look through MONTHS(?) of security footage to see the theft
>MAMEdevs know about the "stolen ROMs" story, put it in MAME anyways despite pulling Sega Sonic Bros. out including the git commits since "Sega" sent them a threatening letter despite Sega never threatening MAME for any of the Sega titles playable(protip: it was the hoarder who was angry the dump got public despite the dumpers saying they would keep it private)
It doesn't add up. More likely that one guy was willing to get it dumped, but wanted to cover his ass so he wouldn't get cut off from other rarities.

[Anonymous No.6095273]

>>6095209
I'm one so-called hoarder.

[Anonymous No.6095276]

>>6095273
Howw are you holding up, hoard bro?

[Anonymous No.6095278]

>>6095263
fucking sack of shit

[Anonymous No.6095290]

>>6095209
That guy who hoarded loads of rare japanese pc games and uploaded them on a private forum for creds and blew up when the link was posted here
All those people who get really angry about any emulation and dumping

[Anonymous No.6095338]

>>6095276
Doing OK.

[Anonymous No.6095342]

>>6094627
based game preservationists dabbing on hoarder fags

[Anonymous No.6095343]

>>6094854
Those are some pretty beefy fucking sprites in the sidescrolling section, and the FP section looks interesting. Would have been neat to see this all polished up. Dunno if going for a million different genres would have been a good idea in the end though

[Anonymous No.6095356]

>>6095269
>Sega Sonic Bros.
It's always the Sonic autists, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.6095427]

>>6094862
I know for a fact some of those collections are built from a welfare check system.

[Anonymous No.6095434]

>>6095269
>another game delisted by MAME staff
Yeah, no surprise there. Those faggots are always removing shit.

[Anonymous No.6095487]

What are my fellow hoardbros hoardin'?

[Anonymous No.6095493]

>>6095487
My virginity. Several hundred pounds of excess fat. Various stains on my shirt.

[Father Electronics Couture No.6095501]

>>6095427
LOL... No, I mean like the police do with people who's wellbeing someone has reported a concern for. I do find the Don Russell story to be interesting though. I hope his widow and kids have managed to find a new normal.

[Anonymous No.6095508]

>>6095493
Cringe, bro.

[Anonymous No.6095639]

>7 more prototypes and they started with akira genesis
whats next?
n64 holy grails like zelda 64, mario 64 and banjo kazooie?
the legendary sonic 1 proto?

[Anonymous No.6095643]

>>6095639
I hope the final day is just them beheading a hoarder on a livestream.

[Anonymous No.6095686]

5 new prototypes have been released, which are:
World of Illusion starring Mickey Mouse & Donald Duck (Prototype B)
Primal Rage (Prototype)
College Football USA 96 (Jun 21, 1995 prototype)
Granada (REV01 prototype)
Australian Rugby League (Prototype)
Read more: https://hiddenpalace.org/News/Holiday_2019_(Day_2)_-_Some_Stocking_Stuffers!

[Anonymous No.6095693]

Based and redpilled. Hoarders get the rope.

[Anonymous No.6095758]

>>6094629
It is, dude's a real cool guy and didn't have to resort to namefagging to get attention even if he had the Akira game secured. Didn't even bother to post here, either.
You can talk to him in the Hidden Palace discord if you're not a brain damaged 4chan shitposter.

[Anonymous No.6095763]

>>6095639
PC Cocoron, Resident Evil 1.5 Release Candidate (Gemini BTFO), Mario 128, Fortezza (Nintendo Playstation), Hellraiser (NES), Flesh Gordon 2600

[Anonymous No.6095831]

>tfw I have a pre-final Japanese debug prototype disc of the first Klonoa game that I got for very cheap
Any dumped Klonoa prototypes online?

[Anonymous No.6095857]

>>6092963
>>6093836
>>6095686
Fuck. Fuck. FUCK. How do we stop this? I'm already underwater on two of my mortgages and might not be able to flip them in time before the next big recession. I had everything banked on selling my protos on eBay at 10x profit. I am fucking ruined. This is literally going to kill people. How do we stop this?

[Anonymous No.6095870]

>>6095857
If you want to end the suffering then end yourself, hoardfag. It’s only a matter of time before Hidden Palace is owned by the U.S. Government and you hoardfags will be required to hand over your prototypes and then be executed.

[Anonymous No.6095872]

>>6095870
The US Government is more likely to shut down Hidden Palace than anything.

[Anonymous No.6095880]

>>6092963
Thats pretty awesome, Akira was a big name with lots of videos and magazines. Its been really good this last couple of years with proto releases. I think people are realizing that it is pointless to keep these to themselves.

[Anonymous No.6095882]

>>6095872
Cope harder, maybe it will save you from debt, hoardnigger. As soon as every prototype that the masses have been yearning for is recovered by Hidden Palace, all those years you spent sitting on your fantass, eating Cheetohs, and hoarding prototypes will be wasted. Your fucking balding lardass will be on a fucking stick that was shoved up your ass, and you won’t be getting off of it to fucking shit all over your PCBs and lick the shit off of them. The best part is, you won’t be missed. Even when you are dead, your fatass will be hated by everyone you know, and every decent person on this planet. There is no escape. You’ve dug your way into this hole hoardnigger, and it’s only a matter of time before Hidden Palace buries you.

[Anonymous No.6095892]

>>6095882
Unironically seek help.

[Anonymous No.6095894]

Am I just gonna have to filter the word hoard in /vr/? Good lord you shits are annoying

[Anonymous No.6095902]

>>6095894
upload your r@re roms, hoarder

[Anonymous No.6095906]

>>6095902
Not him, but you could always offer to buy prototypes from people or pay them for the ROMs.

[Anonymous No.6095909]

>>6095894
>>6095892
Hand over your prototypes then kill yourselves you fat pieces of shit

[Anonymous No.6095912]

>>6095909
>I'll sperg out and fling insults, THAT will make people want to share with me!
Seek help.

[Anonymous No.6095926]

Man this fucking Akira proto rules. Looks like it would be shit though.

[Anonymous No.6095954]

Can we dox all hoarders? Send Tyrone to his house. At least he'll sell the protos on Craigslist for menthol money.

[Anonymous No.6095998]

>>6095831
none that I can find from a brief Google search

[Anonymous No.6096025]

>Can we dox all hoarders?

[Anonymous No.6096026]

>>6095954
No need to, they'll suffer cardiac arrest and their parents will sell their shit for 10$ on a garage sale

[Anonymous No.6096037]

>>6095273
Me too. High five, bro. Thanks to me, nobody will ever get to play the unfinished beta of linkle liver story 2 or the unbootable source code of the 3rd beta of the unfinished bubble ghost 2 alpha for ibm dos 2.0.

[Anonymous No.6096054]

>>6095892
Meant to quote >>6095857

[Anonymous No.6096070]

>>6096054
Nope. The guy I quoted types like he is a betakiddie with genuine issues, the other guy is just the one who is obsessed with larping as a concerned hoarder.

[Anonymous No.6096081]

Sad news. I think I'm going to the right thing and destroy the SEGA of America hard drives I have along with the sources on them. It wasn't supposed to be released to the public anyway and I don't want pirates ever spreading it Illegally.

[Anonymous No.6096096]

spaceworld mother 3 something something in the next something something

you didn't hear it from me

[Anonymous No.6096341]

>>6096096
Are they dumping duke 2001?
Some guy on /v/ is dropping gameplay webms for the last 2 days

[Anonymous No.6096383]

>>6096081
Do it like the blizzard guy, return them to sega, maybe they will gift you the new sanic game

[Anonymous No.6096586]

I hope someday that I will see this.

or a later build that has the "big" version of the streets level

[Anonymous No.6096602]

I'd be much more interested in releases of the sourcecode of old games, especially 8-bit and 16-bit era.

[Anonymous No.6096660]

>>6095639
I hope they get that Christopher Colombus shooter, all I want to see is footage of the gameplay really.

[Anonymous No.6096665]

>>6096096
Any beta build of OoT or SM64 is more likely to show up than that, and we're never getting either of them.

[Anonymous No.6096674]

>>6095202
im colorblind. is that a pot leaf?

[Anonymous No.6096678]

>>6095686
come on duelin firemen!
fingers crossed

[Anonymous No.6096682]

>>6096674
No, it's a fucking meme frog.

[Anonymous No.6096690]

>>6096682
yeah. my girlfriend always makes fun of the fact that i suck at seeing the pictures in the dots

[Anonymous No.6096702]

still waiting for this to get dumped

[Anonymous No.6096751]

>>6096602
the 8/16 bit games were written for very specific kind of hardware. you'd basically end up writing 90% brand new code to make it up and running.

[Anonymous No.6096771]

>>6092963
Please be Pop'n Land for sega cd.
>Please be Pop'n Land for sega cd.

[Anonymous No.6096961]

>>6094986
They have that at Galloping Ghost now.

[Anonymous No.6097123]

>>6094986
One of those cabs was at a Frisco, TX pinball convention earlier this year. When I was there it was initially stuck at an area where a door was supposed to open, and after a reset in managed to clear the first stage and maybe a bonus stage or something before it locked up. Disappointing.

[Anonymous No.6097140]

>>6096961
Cool, let me just hop on a plane to Chicago.

[Anonymous No.6097212]

>>6092963
this is awesome! thanks for posting the link here. have a galford for your efforts bud.

[Anonymous No.6097221]

>>6097123
This. It crashed when I played it at Galloping Ghost, too. It's a really unstable beta.

[Anonymous No.6097250]

Today's release is two N64 Prototypes:
Robotech: Crystal Dreams (Prototype)
GT 64: Championship Edition (May 25, 1998 prototype)
Read more about it here: https://hiddenpalace.org/News/Holiday_2019_(Day_3)_-_N64_Goodies

Gotta be honest, today and yesterday's prototypes haven't been that interesting as the Akira one. Tomorrow there will be a stream, and on on New Year's Day, hopefully they will show something as notable as the Akira prototype.

[Anonymous No.6097257]

Crossing fingers for Viewpoint 2064.
https://youtu.be/Y4iSAcgz7tM

[Anonymous No.6097258]

>>6096961
>>6097123
The problem is B&B and stuff like MarbleMan can only be played at one place in B&B's case, and only at conventions in MarbleMan's case. Until it's dumped, it's not preserved, no matter what the hoarder who refuses to let it be dumped says. "Hur, I'm maintaining the machine, it's preserved!" Yeah, right up until one of the undumped chips burns out or just dies, then it's gone forever.

[Anonymous No.6097304]

>>6097250
>the stuff I'm getting for free isn't good enough!
This is why people hoard.

[Anonymous No.6097347]

>>6097250
>>6097257
If you're counting on one specific prototype, then I wouldn't hold your breath since that really isn't how these things work (unless of course you have actual evidence to support the belief that your prototype of choice is one slated for release).

Most of these things are inherently very few to possibly even one-of-a-kind. If a known hoarder is thought to have a copy of a particular build, I wouldn't expect another to suddenly appear and wind up in the hands of somebody who is willing to release it. A lot of dedication and oftentimes a lot of money goes into obtaining these things, and if one particular thing isn't available, it simply isn't. It is also smart to keep in mind that every game has potential prototype builds to be discovered, so if, say, 70% of games are games you don't give a shit about, so will 70% (or much more, if your metric of interesting dictates that it also has to be both early and excitingly different from final) of shared prototypes be things you don't give a shit about. Just imagine being an active preservationist who buys these things, often in borderline blind deals of "don't know if it works, don't know if it is different" situations, only to wind up spending $150 or more on something that turns out to be literally a retail build on a prototype PCB, or worse yet, a friggin' generic-ass CD-R.

[Anonymous No.6097365]

>>6097257
Looks cool from a historical perspective. But boring from a gameplay perspective.

[Anonymous No.6097384]

>>6097250
What?

[Anonymous No.6097420]

>>6097347
I mean for the Sonic event or whatever they did they saved the elusive Sonic 3 prototype for last

[Anonymous No.6097481]

>>6097384
Two N64 prototypes were shared, one being a build of an unreleased game which is earlier than the previously shared build.

[Anonymous No.6097584]

I wish someone would find that 32X demo, you now which one

[Anonymous No.6097590]

Isn't there an Indiana Jones proto for the Mega Drive that some sweaty little scrotum is sitting on?

[Anonymous No.6097645]

they probably have one more akira-tier bombshell saved up and the rest is dull filler shit with barely any differences from what we've already seen

[Anonymous No.6097652]

>>6095998
Maybe some Klonoa collector will want to pay out the ass for it.

[Anonymous No.6097690]

>>6097645
that was the case for sonic month, where the sonic cd and sonic 3 prototypes were the most interesting ones

[Anonymous No.6097701]

>>6096586
is that a rear projection? imagine the viewing angle that poor guy on the side has...

[Anonymous No.6097761]

>>6095912
Kill yourself hoardfuck.

[Anonymous No.6097793]

>>6095639
COME ON COME ON COME ON
MARIO SUNSHINE PROTOTYPE
LUIGIS MANSION PROTOTYPES INCLUDING THE ONE WITH 3D SUPPORT
ALL THE 64DD GAMES COME OOOON

[Anonymous No.6097796]

>>6095639
Earthbound 64

[Anonymous No.6097803]

>>6095643
Adter dumping all of his protos in the same stream with him tied to a chair forced to watch

[Anonymous No.6097813]

>>6097803
>>6097761
Seek help.

[Anonymous No.6097817]

Crystal Dreams was such a crazy sounding game but was easily 1-2 generations too early for a proper attempt

[Anonymous No.6097819]

>>6097813
Stop hoarding games you fat waste of air.

[Anonymous No.6097821]

What betakiddies expect from every prototype:
These 5 exact early builds of these 5 exact top-tier games that were shown in these magazines, all containing content that was removed entirely from the finished product, in some ways arguably better than said final product

What most prototypes turn out to be:
Prototypes of games they don't care about or prototypes in a linear development timeline that are more or less just unfinished versions, without mindblowingly different cut content

Personally I find all prototypes of old games to be interesting, but people getting their hopes up and then bitching about (freely provided) content because it didn't live up to their lofty standards gets old. This shit very rarely comes cheap, no matter the perceived quality, so it is a blessing that any of it is shared so freely.

[Anonymous No.6097912]

>>6097258
Nothing is preserved because the universe will end at some point.

[Anonymous No.6097979]

>>6097912
you should just kill yourself now then.

[Anonymous No.6097994]

>>6097250
GT 64 looked good but ran at 5 frames a second on retail, would be interesting to see what went wrong

[Anonymous No.6098045]

>>6097912
to be fair it only took like 30 some years to create vast amount of diverse videogames. it's nothing in the scale of universe. even if universe were to end and start again we just make them again.

[Anonymous No.6098161]

>>6097912
No it won't. All evidence points to an open universe and the few people trying to prove a cyclic universe are just doing mental gymnastics. "optical drive emulators aren't emulators" tier.

[Anonymous No.6098213]

>>6098161
What kind of emulatorception can we reach? Running an os in VMware which is running dosbox which is running a Wii emulator which is running an SNES emulator.

[Anonymous No.6098216]

>>6094929
>Story or no, the allegation alone has refocused a long-running debate in emulation circles. Is there a moral imperative for collectors of rare games and prototypes to release their code for the good of preservation? And if they refuse, is there any ethical argument for literally sneaking into a private collection to make an unsolicited copy of the game for posterity?
LMAO more like the opposite is happening. Hoarders are the moralfags and those that dump ROMs are the Saviors of the internet. They always whine I say good no more of this monopoly on holding onto rare games.

[Anonymous No.6098218]

>>6095639
Mario 64 and Zelda 64 will be literal decades. But Sonic 1 and Kazooie I can see being possible.

[Anonymous No.6098397]

>tfw blue disks will demagnetize before we get some good protos
It's been 20 years and we still only have one 64DD prototype and its fucking dezaemon 64
I know hoardfags are too fucking stupid to actually send their blue disks in to be backed up before they demagnetize and become worthless
Fucking hoardfags

[Anonymous No.6098689]

>>6098397
super mario 64 is sort of a proto.

[Anonymous No.6098806]

Day 4: Unreleased Superman game for the Game Boy Color:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0aOEwD70Ug&feature=emb_title

[Anonymous No.6098893]

>>6098806
Based Hidden Palace, dabbin' on hoarders AND overly optimistic betakiddies in one fell swoop.

[Anonymous No.6098905]

>>6098893
who are optimistic betakiddies

[Anonymous No.6098917]

>>6098905
People who expect that they're going to release this or that particular build of this or that particular high profile game and get disappointed when it isn't, instead of just happily accepting and being grateful for whatever comes.

[Anonymous No.6098993]

>>6098806
Can you imagine somebody hoarding this? lol

[Anonymous No.6099072]

>>6098993
From reading the release info, it sounds like the source wasn't a collector, but who knows.

[Anonymous No.6099146]

>>6092982
The fuck did you just say about Sonic?

[Anonymous No.6099406]

>>6098213
Well there's that big simulation running on a machine with an FPU that's only precise to one planck?

[Anonymous No.6099413]

>>6098806
>yet another Superman game scrapped due to DC bullshit
guessing Sunman sales tanked so hard, they figured it wasn't even worth retooling

[Anonymous No.6099438]

>>6098806
looks and sounds nice, seems utterly unplayable.

[Anonymous No.6099479]

How are hoardfags btfo if they're not releasing anything worth hoarding besides akira

[Anonymous No.6099486]

>hoarding is dead
not when shit like this continues to remain behind bars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKIDtw8040M

[Anonymous No.6099510]

>>6099479
There's an argument that none of it is "worth" hoarding in the sense that some super entertaining piece of media is being withheld from the masses. Is anybody going to actually play Genesis Akira for more than a few minutes? Doubtful. It's awesome that it is preserved, but most people will probably be satisfied with just watching a video of it, since it sounds like (I haven't actually played it or watched more than a few minutes) the game was far from finished. How many people are going to opt for regularly playing an unfinished, broken version of a game over the polished release build? Not many. That's not saying I don't find prototypes to be incredibly cool and fully support builds of all kinds, even the minor ones, getting preserved, but people need to keep their expectations in check instead of obsessing over and having meltdowns and sending threats of violence over what some hoarder won't "let" them play.

[Anonymous No.6099513]

>>6095639
big names like mario and zelda will never show unless you want to hack into nintendo's servers like spaceworld gold and silvers case

[Anonymous No.6099771]

>>6095857
Good, die bitch, die.

[Anonymous No.6099787]

>tfw the original developers won't profit from the releases, the people who dumped and donated the ROMs won't profit off the releases, the people who host the ROMs won't profit off the releases
>tfw the only people who will profit off this are leeches who make shitty YouTube videos and clickbait articles about the releases

[Anonymous No.6099791]

>>6099787
>protos
>literally unfinished and unreleased games

>releases

[Anonymous No.6099912]

>>6098806
>InfoGrames
Dat music slaps

[Anonymous No.6099915]

Any you fagboys played the Akira proto? Is it actually good and enjoyable?

[Anonymous No.6099918]

>>6099486
Looool,
>Hidden Palace2 months ago
>これはとっても興味深いです。このデモが入っているFDのデータを持っていますか?ぜひ[e-mail]までにメールを送ってください。私は熱心なメガドライブファンです。

>Galient 20002 months ago
>Thanks for your comment.
>Unfortunately, I cannot give you this demo software.

BTFO'd hard as fuck.

[Anonymous No.6099980]

>>6099918
How much do you weigh?

[Anonymous No.6099990]

>>6097645
I wonder if its the Conker game before it was made into Bad Fur Day?

[Anonymous No.6099992]

>>6099146
he said it's just going to be more lame prototypes of Sonic games, yo fucking furfag

[Anonymous No.6100017]

Indiana Jones Proto, Mega Drive!!!!

[Anonymous No.6100023]

Garfield Sega Channel levels never ever...

[Anonymous No.6100049]

>>6097994
it's one of the first batch of games where developers didn't realize using the n64 z-buffer destroyed the performance

[Anonymous No.6100082]

>>6099992
*grabs you by the throat* back the fuck off?!

[Anonymous No.6100090]

>>6095857
Great false flag. I bet you had a cheeky grin when you typed that out.
>h-here I go!

[Anonymous No.6100092]

We lost again...

[Anonymous No.6100095]

>>6099486
Aren't japs notorious for hoarding prototypes for the sake of hoarding instead of playing what they have?

[Anonymous No.6100115]

>>6096025
>t. hoarder

[Anonymous No.6100129]

>>6100095
>"I no sell to the foreign buyer, even if buyer (located) in japan"
>foreigners are ruining our (nerd) culture reeee
>foreigners too stupid & dirty for public baths & soap district
>most hated sex tourists in all of SEA
japs are notorious for being jackoffs period

[Anonymous No.6100237]

>>6100129
to be fair foreigners will buy games from japanese shops and never trade games in, which does hurt the stores.
a family member in japan just sent me sealed copies of kirby superstar and majora's mask, which is insane to think about elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.6100292]

>>6100237
Nah, they're just xenophobic racists too cowardly to do the same to your face. I've seen this same dickbag behavior in yahoo auction sellers selling damn near everything otaku related.

[Anonymous No.6100416]

>>6099486
>>6099918
So thats where this image comes from. Sega should have kept Madonna shes sexy.

[Anonymous No.6100428]

>>6100416
Yeah, she's got a butt on her.

[Anonymous No.6100751]

>>6100292
there is literally nothing wrong with racism, and some cultures are objectively inferior to others.

[Anonymous No.6100756]

https://hiddenpalace.org/Need_for_Speed:_Nitro_(Aug_14,_2009_prototype)

more fucking nothing.

[Anonymous No.6100759]

More complete build of Virtua Hamster pls

[Anonymous No.6100768]

>>6100759
Here you go.

[Anonymous No.6100830]

>>6100756
That wasn't part of their release for one thing, and for another
>complaining about stuff people give away for free
>complain about hoarders and STILL complain when people don't hoard and release things for free

[Anonymous No.6100841]

>>6100751
Criticising other cultures doesn't make you racist though, just like criticising someone's religion or political belief.

[Anonymous No.6100897]

>>6100237
I don't buy the fact that foreigners are doing any amount of "damage" to something like Super Potato. Japanese people care about games, and ESPECIALLY old games in a way that is totally uncharacteristic of Americans. Probably 40-70% of "old" games in America are rotting away in boxes and will never re-enter the market. Some of them have them been thrown out or destroyed. That is patently untrue of Japanese games. They're still buying, selling, and trading en masse.

[Anonymous No.6100937]

Day 5: 1 Mega Drive/Genesis and 2 Game Gear Ecco prototypes
https://hiddenpalace.org/News/Holiday_2019_(Day_5)_-_Ecco

[Anonymous No.6100942]

>>6100937
very nice

[Anonymous No.6100951]

Hoardfats getting BTFO warms my heart.

[Anonymous No.6100957]

>>6100937
Dang the japanese got such a better version of ecco.

[Anonymous No.6100986]

>>6100937
AAAAAAAAWWWWWWW YEAH

ECCO CHADS WE DID IT

[Anonymous No.6101027]

>>6100095
Japs are literally the worst. Horrific version tracking during development so everything gets lost in the first place and the few things that survived end up in the hands of some dude that looks like he's never seen his floor from all the shit in his house in the last 20 years.

[Anonymous No.6101060]

>>6100937
so its basically the english version but in japanese
no stomach level after the machine

[Anonymous No.6102202]

>>6095643
I'd pay good money to watch this.

[Anonymous No.6102537]

>>6100756
>non-retro NFS-proto
but why.

[Anonymous No.6102658]

>>6095857
Get your fatass out and get a job

[Anonymous No.6102734]

>>6102537
Because somebody bought it, dumped it, and decided to freely share it. The site isn't just for retro prototypes, they have stuff for PS3 and 360. It also wasn't a part of the formal holiday release series.

[Anonymous No.6103120]

>>6100841
culture is born of people, lesser people develop lesser cultures. race is just a simplified way of categorizing genetic clusters, but objectively superior and inferior genetics exist.

[Anonymous No.6103225]

Day 6:
Putty Squad (Early prototype)
Dune II: The Battle for Arrakis (Jan 11, 1994 prototype)
Champions World Class Soccer (Mar 18, 1994 prototype)
Radical Rex (Prototype)
Street Racer (Mar 21, 1995 prototype)
Read more: https://hiddenpalace.org/w/index.php?title=News/Holiday%202019%20%28Day%206%29%20-%20Putty%20Squad%20and%20Mega%20Drive%20Treats

[Anonymous No.6103262]

>>6103225
Hoarding is dead. Bury it.

[Anonymous No.6103298]

Calling bets that last stream will be of a Pac-Man prototype

[Anonymous No.6103429]

Hoardfags arent btfo if the things worth hoarding are still hoarded
Seriously

[Anonymous No.6103435]

>RPing as teh "SEETHING" hoardfags
>"dabbing" on teh hoardfags
>filling the thread with just plain bitching about teh hoardfags
perhaps as bad as actually being a hoardfag.

[Anonymous No.6103438]

>>6103429
buuh hoardfat detceted i dab on u u crinfe hoarder

[Anonymous No.6103696]

We keep losing, bros.

[Anonymous No.6104054]

>>6099918
I heard this got dumped from another source instead

[Anonymous No.6104063]

Literally heroes vs villains.

[Anonymous No.6104089]

>>6103435
everybody will forget about these posts the moment they're archived, hoardfags will continue hoardfagging for years

[Anonymous No.6104092]

>>6095290
link to meltdown?

[Anonymous No.6104094]

>>6104089
>for years

I doubt their organs have that long left.

[Anonymous No.6104117]

>>6104092
>>/vr/thread/S4819048
>>/vr/thread/S5733345

[Anonymous No.6104131]

>>6104092
>>/vr/thread/S4822737#p4825354

[Anonymous No.6104161]

>>6095857
Pretty obviously a larp or an attempt to gain pity/money. On the 0.001% chance that it's true though- that's what you (can) get when you gamble on a high risk bet like that.

[Anonymous No.6104324]

>>6104117
>That hoardnigger defense force in the second thread
Yikes

[Anonymous No.6104328]

Indiana Jones Trilogy MD!!! Has to be.

[Anonymous No.6104367]

>>6095882
irl fat and broke much?

[Anonymous No.6104408]

I want to believe

[Anonymous No.6104432]

>>6104408
George "tubbs" Broussard is hoarding it and it won't be dumped until he has another stroke.

[Anonymous No.6104434]

>>6104408
Is that Dusk 2?

[Anonymous No.6104436]

>>6104432
we had a guy on /v/ posting randomly brand new footage of the game. it's the only "lost" game I can ever ask for. even if it's a broken mess it should be still fun to play than whatever we got instead

[Anonymous No.6104459]

>>6095909
So, you're pretty fat?

>>6095926
>...rules... shit though
Pick a side, idort.

>>6096037
O noes! (No one cares)

>>6096081
Pics(screens) or it didn't happen.

>>6096771
Man, I'd LOVE to see this.

>>6097258
I'd think that in this day and age, when a hoarder gets hold of a rare version/prototype/whatever machine, they'd dump it(under strict watchfull eyes) pretty quickly and just sit on the rom dumps just the same as they sit on the pcb/cab. Maybe?

>>6097645
My thoughts exactly.

>>6097701
It looks like one of the real late ones. Those weren't anywhere near as bad as the 'regular' old ones. Can't remember exactly what was changed/improved on those late ones, but I do remember they were a lot better.

>>6095882
>>6097819
>>6099980
>>6102658
So, real, real bad hangups about your lardiness?

>>6100957
>the japanese got such a better version of ecco.
Do you get to eat him?

[Anonymous No.6104593]

>>6104408
>>6104408
these were confirmed to be unplayable demos, they cut them together for a trailer and that was it.

[Anonymous No.6105615]

Happy New Year everyone!
Day 7: Flintstones prototypes
Read more:https://hiddenpalace.org/w/index.php?title=News/Holiday%202019%20%28Day%207%29%20-%20Flintstones

One more prototype left, it will be streamed tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.6105649]

>>6105615
FLEENTSTONES?
FLEENTSTOOOONES???

[Anonymous No.6105663]

>>6105615
i mean, guess we should have expected this kind of random scraps instead of whatever our holy grials were, lets just hope whatever they have for tomorrow is actually big.

[Anonymous No.6105676]

>>6105615
/vr/! LEND HIDDEN PALACE YOUR ENERGY! TOMORROW WILL USHER IN A GOLDEN AGE WHERE WE GET A ZELDA 64 BETA BUILD!

[Anonymous No.6105679]

>>6105615
>>6105676
is there even a shred of hope?

[Anonymous No.6105680]

>>6105615
TICK TOCK HOARDFAGS

[Anonymous No.6105686]

Gotta get the filler in somewhere..

[Anonymous No.6105687]

>>6105679
A beta of Pokemon Gold and Silver that doesn't match up with any version shown dated a week before Spaceworld 1997 got released online and we still don't know where it came from.

Anything can happen my dude.

[Anonymous No.6105692]

More Mega Drive protos - Street Fighter CE (Black Bar version) Indiana Jones Trilogy, or Super Star Wars

[Anonymous No.6105710]

>>6105687
We actually got the answer to that back on Christmas:
https://forums.glitchcity.info/index.php?topic=8950.0

[Anonymous No.6105725]

>>6105710
Considering how incompetent Game Freak is at, well, everything, I'm not surprised some random ass dude was able to hack into their servers and grab all that shit and run.

[Anonymous No.6105740]

>>6105710
>Someone got into Nintys proto vault and only leaked pokemon
Bruh

[Anonymous No.6105776]

Yeah well, bump the thread when they release anything of worth like Rogue Squadron Wii.

[Anonymous No.6105778]

>>6105776
Not /vr/

[Anonymous No.6105943]

>>6105615
FLINTSTONES? OOOOOOOOOOOOH

[Anonymous No.6106093]

>>6092963
PLEASE LEAK THE SONIC BATTLE PROTO

[Anonymous No.6106104]

>>6106093
No, Toy Fair demo. Also
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NOT RETRO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.6106137]

>>6104459
>It looks like one of the real late ones. Those weren't anywhere near as bad as the 'regular' old ones. Can't remember exactly what was changed/improved on those late ones, but I do remember they were a lot better.
that kind of rear projection crt would have been from like 2000 or so. I have a sony one from around 2004 and the viewing angles aren't any better than an old one from what I can tell. they're all terrible if you're not looking at it dead center from the right height.

[Anonymous No.6106141]

>>6104459

[Anonymous No.6106240]

>>6099510
Blame rom kiddies as the value of a "hoarder's" broken development iteration is directly tied to how much those plebs are seething over not having it. People fantasizing about the artifact being playable like a fun retail release = your shit 50 dollar convo starter is now 500+. When it's dumped publicly people tend to not give a fuck anymore since the illusion is broken, and the price drops to raw hardware prices.
The only reason Akira got out is because Akiranon was clearly not trying to grow his epeen, because if he was a bit greedy just a teaser video would be enough for people to go nuts and offer money for it, and RIP public release idea. RE 2 is also a classic example and a decade of Bioflames hype is why the "complete" build will never ever surface again (and the known one is only available because the RE sekrit klub that bought it failed to have everyone with a copy to shut the fuck up, it was never supposed to).

[Anonymous No.6106259]

>>6105615
7 grandad.

[Anonymous No.6106329]

>>6106240
Oh fuck off with the mental gymnastics. The hoarder will sit on the prototype regardless of whether there is a demand or not for it. Why? Because that is what a hoarder does. Their action of keeping shit is what makes them what they are. Most of them do it for the sake of hoarding with zero interest of playing. It doesn't matter if it's some broken prototype. It should be out there because these things will die off eventually. I hold prototypes in the same regard as unreleased games. They're all on the level of soon to be lost media if it isn't archived.

[Anonymous No.6106393]

>>6100751
>>6103120
There absolutely is something wrong with racism - that it implies people of a specific genetic or cultural makeup can never, ever surpass their inherent limitations. If it were just statistical, that wouldn't be as much of a problem, but most people with racist beliefs essentially use it as a kind of caste system - a way to split people into "lesser" and "greater" that the ones being split have zero say in, and usually while putting oneself in the "greater" category.

[Anonymous No.6106402]

>>6106393
>There absolutely is something wrong with racism - that it implies people of a specific genetic or cultural makeup can never, ever surpass their inherent limitations.
Then let's move all racial groups back to their Homelands, no affirmative action, no handouts.

[Anonymous No.6106470]

>>6106393
You should go preach that to actual racists, like most black Westerners (perhaps most blacks worldwide, even in Africa) most East Asians and diaspora, most Arab Muslims and Pakistanis and Indian Muslims, most brown Mexicans and others. Tell them to not be prejudiced against people outside their respective groups (especially towards "whites"), and see what happens. They will immediately loathe you, at the very least.

>>6106402
This. No racism and no forced association for anyone.

[Anonymous No.6106474]

>>6106402
ok, but how do you plan to relocate 400 millions Americans thru europe, africa, south america and random slav shitholes?

I am pretty sure native americans will be quite happy to have the land back, but it's surely going to be costly.

[Anonymous No.6106573]

>>6106329
I love the sound of EEPROMs slowly losing their charge. Smells like data loss, pain and regret.

[Anonymous No.6107215]

>>6106573
You sound like you've studied the blade. How much do you weigh?

[Anonymous No.6107315]

>>6107215
I'm 105lbs, 5'5" and no I'm not a girl, teehee.

[Anonymous No.6107316]

https://www.twitch.tv/hiddenpalace/
Final day stream happening in less than 4 minutes.

[Anonymous No.6107318]

>>6107316
GIVE HIDDEN PALACE YOUR ENERGY

[Anonymous No.6107325]

>>6107318
You and the Vertexer guy are going to be the most disappointed people on earth in about 4 minutes.

[Anonymous No.6107327]

>>6107325
It's Star Wars shit on the Genesis, who the fuck could be hyped about this? Fuck, what a massive letdown

[Anonymous No.6107328]

>>6105692
Fucking called it! well Star Wars anyway

[Anonymous No.6107397]

Star Wars for Genesis was neat to see, guessing it was started after the SNES one was finished? Didn't seem like there was any indication of the trash compactor stage which was apparently going to be in the SNES release.

[Anonymous No.6107491]

cool, a bunch of prototype shit nobody cares about. how about viewpoint64 or something cool

[Anonymous No.6107609]

>>6107491
Attitudes like this just encourage people to hoard.

[Anonymous No.6107764]

>>6097912
If only we can tell that to retards who preserved Torah, Bible & Quran garbage.

[Anonymous No.6107803]

>>6104324
>see people complaining that the guy should have waited until he got EVERYTHING from the hoardnigger
>see no one defending the hoardnigger
Link me.

[Anonymous No.6107812]

>>6107609
Only hoarders care about having Seinfeld 64. They're electronic hipsters

[Anonymous No.6107830]

>port that looks like a worse version of the source game
I wish more developers would've embraced the concept of just making a new game in the same style as the original, with new levels and whatnot, to give a more unique experience, maybe trying to capitalize on the unique strengths of the console.

[Anonymous No.6107907]

>>6107830
It's not like the Super trilogy were particularly demanding games. 90% of them is just platforming, with a few Mode7 levels which aren't even very good save the ones in Jedi. Cut those levels or adjust them into something the Genesis can do well, adjust the spritework to account for the reduced colors and sit someone down to properly redo the soundtrack. Looks like they were in the process of all three, really.

[Anonymous No.6107940]

>>6107315
>I'm not a girl
>teehee
cringe

[Anonymous No.6107963]

>>6107940
>cringe
cringe

[Anonymous No.6107965]

The actual best release was Akira no doubt

Wonder if we'll ever get a group of hero hackmasters to make it playable

[Anonymous No.6108052]

>>6095882
Autistic much? Pretty sure the anon was larping bro.

[Anonymous No.6108475]

What a letdown.
I was hoping duke was last.

[Anonymous No.6108670]

>>6108475

[Anonymous No.6108687]

>>6107965
It looks really early.

[Anonymous No.6108964]

>>6100957
They just got an easier one because having to go through WttM every time you fucked up was deemed too hard for them.

[Anonymous No.6108968]

>>6108964
They ain't wrong.

[Anonymous No.6108973]

>>6108968
The stomach isn't much of a level anyway, it's just a bland maze with some Vortex jellyfish.
One of the few instances where the Japanese localization of a non-Japanese game is made much easier.

[Anonymous No.6108978]

>>6099513
>hack into nintendo's servers like spaceworld gold and silvers case
that was a hack-in?

[Anonymous No.6108979]

>>6099915
it's very rough, but like >>6099510 said, it's unfinished and broken (first stage is actually unbeatable, I'm on TetsuOOM now)

[Anonymous No.6110628]

>>6108973
>few
???

Battletoads, Mr. Nutz, Sunsoft's Batman, ...

[Anonymous No.6110779]

>>6104094
This, obese fucks tend to get heart attacks rather easily

[Anonymous No.6110808]

>>6099510
>>6106240
1. There have been prototypes released that are very highly playable, even release quality that were denied release for odd reasons. These include Star Fox 2, Earthbound 0, Princess Maker 2 Localization, and a few others.
2. The main appeal of prototypes have never been about having a fully playable game, but seeing what was behind the curtain. What was being developed, what could have been, so on. And sometimes they're huge and grant us new knowledge about the development of the games. For example, the release of the Spaceworld Pokemon rom and the beta Green assets greatly advanced our knowledge of Pokemon's development, which was something we knew extremely little about. Now we have answers to things we didn't even know were questions.

[Anonymous No.6111924]

>>6108475
if duke 2001 leaked, i think 2K and gearbox would want to squash it and it would be too hot to release on hidden palace.

[Anonymous No.6111927]

what's the anon with a jet set radio build up to, was he trying to get a system disc from someone or was he giving it to someone that already has one?

[Anonymous No.6112000]

>>6108979
None of the stages are beatable, but you can get to the end of the Tetsuo first person stages and Kaneda side scrollers.

[Anonymous No.6112004]

Has anyone messed with the Akira file to see if the last level actually has anything to it? Looks like a boss fight with Tetsuo based on the single frame that shows before the game crashes