/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6085615]

>Translation for all SFC Goemon games announced, 3 and 4 said to be close to completion
>Suddenly, no more Goemon threads in /vr/

https://twitter.com/DDSTranslation/status/1207697109539004416
https://twitter.com/DDSTranslation/status/1207850449069584384
https://twitter.com/DDSTranslation/status/1207856444453863427
https://twitter.com/DDSTranslation/status/1207861453656600576

[Anonymous No.6085616]

[Anonymous No.6085619]

[Anonymous No.6085623]

[Anonymous No.6085627]

>>6085615
based

[Anonymous No.6085631]

>>6085615
Hot damn, there's some good news

[Anonymous No.6085635]

Apparently there was also some drama regarding the Goemon 2 translation, but no one should be concerned about that. The important thing is that now people that can't read moon will finally be able to play these games without needing a guide on hand.

[Anonymous No.6085657]

>>6085615

thats awesome. I'm really glad I held off on playing them in Japanese all these years... I knew sooner or later they would get translated, surprised it took so long, god bless the people who finally did though

[Anonymous No.6085660]

>>6085619
>le buddhism windmill
Oh nononono

[Anonymous No.6085669]

>>6085657
i've beaten all the snes goemon games and i'm gonna replay em in english

[Anonymous No.6085751]

I can already smell the seething, unwashed Davido-kun and his kin on their way over here right now

[Anonymous No.6085758]

Peasants win again.

[Anonymous No.6085818]

>>6085615
Awesome, couldn't get far in 3 before. Looking forward to understanding it.

[Anonymous No.6085906]

>>6085615
nooooo, why!!!
learning jap for 10 years to finally play goemon, all for naught!

[Anonymous No.6086191]

expect more delays, due to highly autistic nerd smerging over usage of his work, after he wanted to give all of his work away just a few years ago

[Anonymous No.6086239]

>>6085635
3 is the only one that needed a guide.

[Anonymous No.6086468]

>>6085615
Avicalendriya is a crybaby
tom and dds are god send!

[Anonymous No.6086480]

>>6086468
All that autistic faggot ever does is piss and moan, like when he cried about Romancing Saga games finally getting official (shitty mobile) english releases. I don't know why anyone would want to work with him, when every mundane detail of every project he's involved with has to be to his exact specification or he smergs the fuck out.

Kid reminds me of this one autist I knew, who got into a wikiedit war with some other retard over comic book character power levels and wouldn't shut the fuck up, over how something so utterly pointless was triggering him. Such people are a cancer and should be avoided at all costs.

[Anonymous No.6086534]

Yae!

[Anonymous No.6086546]

>>6086468
>>6086480
Nobody cares. Fuck off to twitter or wherever this drama is taking place.

[Anonymous No.6086562]

>>6086239
This, I cleaned 2 out multiple times long before I could read a single rune of the moon

[Anonymous No.6086593]

>>6086546
you cared enough to comment faggot

[Anonymous No.6087527]

>>6086468
>>6086480
Not even a drama worth getting into out of spite. The guy lives off an attention-grabbing cycle of post some progress, bitch and cry about how hard it has been, get support posts, disappear for a year, repeat. Don’t give him any.

Just give support to the ones actually working to get shit done. Spread the news, and rejoice. Let’s hope they actually finish, and hopefully the good PS1 games and DS game follow (someday)

[Anonymous No.6087530]

>>6085758
The meek shall inherit the earth. Did you forget, bourgeoisie?

[Anonymous No.6087823]

>>6087530
Meek means humble, not poor. Typical commie "I"Q.

[Anonymous No.6087830]

Are any of those multiplayer?
I played a Goemon game with a friend ages ago but I can't remember which one.

[Anonymous No.6087838]

>>6087830
1 & 2 are.

[Anonymous No.6087859]

>>6087830
>>6087838
All four are co&op.
But 3 is more quest/exploration oriented and both players share a single lifebar, so it’s actually a lot harder to play with “help”
2 and 4 are fine.

[Anonymous No.6087883]

2 is the best one. 3 has too many Zelda elements and 4 doesn't have real Impact battles.

[Anonymous No.6087909]

Do you think americans will get angry when they play 2?

[Anonymous No.6088108]

>>6087909
Hopefully

[Anonymous No.6088113]

>announced
>not released
*snore*

[Anonymous No.6088208]

Damn, DDST has been on a roll lately. Glad someone's rising up to become the next Aeon Genesis but without Gideon's wack-ass antics

[Anonymous No.6088945]

>>6087859
Oh. Thanks. That reveals a lot about how much (little) time I've spent on 3 and 4. Can't wait for the translations!!!

[Anonymous No.6088946]

>>6087909
based, though I'm curious. Is it the niggaball guy or what?

[Anonymous No.6088956]

>>6086468
He's also a faggot. I hope beyond hope his very cringe planned "localizations" (pic related) don't make it into DDST's final patches.

[Anonymous No.6088989]

>>6088956
What's wrong here?

[Anonymous No.6089001]

>>6085619
Am i the only one here thinking that it is not a good odea to show the swastika in a postive light? Doesnt matter to me and anyone with a brain if this is just the buddist symbol, it is still a swastika and need to be removed.

[Anonymous No.6089006]

>>6088989
If anon is complaining about the image he posted he is probably upset it say bath house on not onsen or hot springs or some romaji word for bath house.
@6089001
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

[Anonymous No.6089130]

>>6088989
>>6089006
No. He means Avi meant to replace all kanji from enviroments, and made up stupid symbols to replace town signs. In this picture, he replaced the “men” and “women” signs with faces of Goemon and Ebisumaru. Because, he gay, GET IT?
They’re cringe as fuck. I hope DDS sticks to the script. If they don’t m, I hope someone reverses unnecessary changes afterwards

[Anonymous No.6089357]

>>6089130
This.

I hate "localized style" romhack translations.

[Anonymous No.6089376]

>>6089001
>Doesnt matter to me and anyone with a brain if this is just the buddist symbol

Think about what that means you fuck. It's not even "just a buddhist symbol". The swastika is an incredibly old and incredibly ubiquitous symbol. It's at least 12,000 years old and has emerged on every continent independently from a multitude of cultures, except australia and antarctica, and I'm not even sure about those exceptions.

Then one asshole in one party in one country uses it for just over 20 years and you're obsessed. The nazis also co-opted eagles as a symbol. Do you want us to remove all the eagles?

[Anonymous No.6089409]

>>6089001
This comes down to the same stupid shit as this >>6088956

It's just a translation! So I fucking hope they don't think like you and stick to simply translating the script. You can go beg for a "Goemon 2 - Remove Symbols Potentially Misinterpretable By Delicate Snowflakes Improvement Hack" as a separate hack.

It's a very folklore-inspired japanese game. If you're triggered by a symbol that has a different meaning in this other culture, why are you even interested in this series.

[Anonymous No.6089615]

>>6088989
The gender binary social construct.
Smash the patriarchy, one chink game at a time!
He changed that one to a man and woman shape later. Not that it matters much. He's now nitpicking how GG3/4 reused his graphics.

[Anonymous No.6089619]

>>6089001
I have bad news for you already: 3 and 4 are full of manji. Blocks, room layouts, patterns, you name it. That is part of the reason why they weren't localized in the first place, besides the insane plot (yes the plot definitively played a factor - Pocky and Rocky was toned down a lot in localization)

[Anonymous No.6089623]

>>6089001
gas yourself kike

[Anonymous No.6089635]

>>6088946
Too good to spoil.


2 has similar tropes as Power Sokouban, Far East of Eden, Kiki Kaikai 1 (uncut SFC version)
3 has the secondary antagonist, and lots of manji
4 has parodies of other countries. "Come & Dead" guy, Sasuke in Drag within 50 seconds of booting the game, and other wonderful things.


I'm convinced Konami Kobe hated how the first game was localized, and put to good use that NoA guideline sent to them by their american branch when developing the next games, but not in the way intended. It's too perfect otherwise.

[Anonymous No.6089648]

>>6088946
The main antagonists are pretty much a parody of japanophile americans

[Anonymous No.6089662]

>>6089001
kys

[Anonymous No.6089668]

>>6089001
>Am i the only one...
Yes.

[Anonymous No.6089691]

So when can I play Goemon 3?

[Anonymous No.6089696]

>>6089691
Right now.

>b-b-but I can't read it!
Look up a faq/video if you get stuck then. Or learn Japanese.

[Anonymous No.6089705]

>>6085615
Cool I guess, but let me know when they're actually out.
These days with all the drama faggots you never know, author may as well read a twitter comment that hurts his feefees and decide to not release shit.

[Anonymous No.6089727]

>>6089696

Thank you. Be an hero

[Anonymous No.6089757]

>>6089727
Your welcome, lad. :)

[Anonymous No.6089957]

Can /vr/ hep me identify a Goemon game?
Played as a child, was a GameBoy or GBC game, I remember it being mostly tan and green (I had a GBC).
I always got stuck in the second level because someone wouldn't let me proceed (can't read Jp) and I remember walking into a bathhouse and being thrown out. I think a merchant behind bars too?
The cartridge art was very blue from memory as well? Had Jp text in a sort of diamond shape and characters on the front.
Asked a friend who played a lot and he couldn't work out if it was maybe a bootleg - but cart always seemed legit

[Anonymous No.6089981]

>>6089001
No, it's a good idea. It's time to stop pretending to be offended by some old shit that happened way before all of us were even born.
>waaa symbol offends me because I was told to be offended!

[Anonymous No.6090004]

>>6089957
It's one of these:

Ganbare Goemon: Sarawareta Ebisumaru!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4THCkC1vtV4

Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon (GB)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF2T5ZlNjsM

Ganbare Goemon: Tengu-tō no Gyakushū!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83utnTSPVos

Ganbare Goemon: Mononoke Dōchū Tobidase Nabe-Bugyō!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9rm-XK7IJk

Ganbare Goemon: Hoshizorashi Dynamites Arawaru!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2EeuW1PjIg

[Anonymous No.6090021]

>>6089981
Didn't you know? Being offended is passed down genetically.

https://www.biologicalpsychiatryjournal.com/article/S0006-3223%2815%2900652-6/abstract

You will never escape your crimes until your race is wiped out, foolish goy.

[Anonymous No.6090026]

>>6090004
Definitely not Dynamite, that game's in full colour (and imo one of the best Goemon games).

[Anonymous No.6090039]

>>6089696
Yeah i'll spend 10 years learning Japanese when the translation is days away from release. You must be the brains.

[Anonymous No.6090046]

>>6090039
Think of all the other untranslated games you could be playing, if only you stopped being a retard and just learned Japanese.

[Anonymous No.6090054]

>>6090039
>days
Yeah I woulnd't be THAT optimistic, but still.

Still, if you're itching to try it, you could just use a guide to reach dungeons (dungeons are 2D, but non linear, and BIG. They require a bit of exploration and backtracking). Alternatively, you could try the first PS1 game (pic related, Uchuu Kaizoku Akogingu), which plays exactly like GG3, and no one is translating it.

[Anonymous No.6090146]

>>6089001
proof liberalism is a mental illness

[Anonymous No.6090150]

>>6090054
Man those new characters on Akogingu are weird.
Is that clown showing Goemon a video of Omitsu getting assaulted by a robot?

[Anonymous No.6090596]

>>6089130
This is exactly what I was referring to, thank you. It's gay and forced. I don't necessarily hate localizations, either, but this one was pure faggotry.

[Anonymous No.6090620]

>>6089409
Again, I don't mind localizations, and they can actually be cool, sometimes. The point is this one is fucking gay and also inconsistent with the sort of localizations Konami did with theirs (especially post Legend of MN). Also, Goemon's and Ebisumaru's faces are not "folklore-inspired", so what the fuck are you on about?

[Anonymous No.6090636]

>>6090620
Konami removed the choice to allow Goemon to go into the ladies room in the localization of GG1, so yes, if they wanted to do that with 2 again this is what they would do.

[Anonymous No.6090723]

>>6089648
I despise anime and generally like everything japanese that isn't anime, I'm so excited

[Anonymous No.6090726]

>>6090636
Not that anon but I think people separate the concept of localization with censorship that's a part of localization. No one wants the later because this will generally be played by adults and there's no commercial necessity behind it.

[Anonymous No.6090945]

>>6089001
Leftarded schizo

[Anonymous No.6090948]

>>6090636
That's apples-to-oranges, as anon >>6090726 pointed out.

[Anonymous No.6090995]

>>6090726
The original concept in GG2 was 2 big kanji for "woman/man"
It's still removed from this "localization".

>adults
Ideological pet causes have no age of majority, or fiction-or-reality demarcation, to be exempt from.
We're in late 2019, where to some, anything "gendered" is a problem, and the drive that causes Goemon (male) to enjoy company of women in those onsens, or get creeped out by okama in those onsens lusting after him, is shamed as a sort of toxic deviancy, or even a hate crime - as he's supposed to act the opposite way.

You end up with solutions similar to what Konami USA would have done to cover up that Goemon is going into the "wrong house". They would either remove the choice, or cover up the choice.

[Anonymous No.6091023]

>>6090995
But Ebisumaru loves women, too. Possibly far more than Goemon (hypothetically) does. Just watch the end credits for MNSG164. Which is yet another reason that "Avi's" the replacement of "M/F" is gay and cringe, especially since the teahouses and restaurants in the later localizations weren't replaced, either, and looked mysterious and exotickly awesome.

[Anonymous No.6091027]

>>6091023
*"Avi's" replacement of

[Anonymous No.6091061]

>>6091023
I know, he collects a harem in GG4 as part of a gameplay segment, and has a child in Shinsedai

That replacement is possibly what the old "fan localization artist" considers the correct answer players should follow.
Goemon goes inside the men's room for an uneventful visit alone, Ebisumaru is either alone or with a harem of women attracted to him, but it's probably okay because he acts effeminately occasionally and has some honorary genderfluid pass. That makes it stunning and brave, and so empowering. You know, like how all crossdressers and okama in japanese media are canonically trans.

[Anonymous No.6091205]

>>6090995
The only examples of people even suggesting some kind of censorship on these games, are this post of your, and the other guy asking to remove manji/swastikas.

Why are you having this hypothetical discussion of censorships no one has even suggested doing.

[Anonymous No.6091369]

>>6091205
>no one has even suggested doing
First off let's get this out of the way. The project is now in safe hands after the change. It's an all-star team who all value their work ethic.

Do excuse the remark if you may, but your weird grammar clouds your intent so I have some trouble keeping up with what you're trying to say.

If you meant no one ever suggested these should be chopped down, haha hell no. Even back when the game were still obscure you had some ResetEra refugees in /vr/ whining about its "offensive content". In some circles it's like a national sport to mentally masturbate about ways these should be "localized" (but for some peculiar reason, they only ever talk about what should be cut entirely) to make possible "an official release that supports the developers" ... though those developers are long gone, and now with Good Feel doing Yoshi games, and what's left behind is a pachinko operation leeching off past glories.

If you mean I think Avi's edits border on the censor-happy intent and unreliable messenger, you hit the bull-eye. Because that's what I mean.
The concept of male and female rooms isn't a nipponese construct unknown to the western masses, so this couldn't have been localization that adapts weird, foreign concepts to simple ideas the small burger mind can understand. It's an arbitrary change, and reeks of mixing beliefs into work. We call these rewrites, or censorship if the ideas swept away could have been offensive (which to some in this case, they are.)

[Anonymous No.6091396]

DASH DASH DASH

[Anonymous No.6091417]

There's quite the difference between the symbol on the title screen and a Nazi Flag. Only a gibbering retard would conflate the two.

[Anonymous No.6091421]

Didn't the MNSG manual mention Ebisumaru loves girls? Or maybe I've read that from a magazine back then, but I'm sure I was familiar with Ebisumaru being a sort of ecchi guy.

[Anonymous No.6091796]

>>6091421
Apparently Etsunobu (who Ebi is based on) is a pretty pervy guy IRL.

[Anonymous No.6091832]

>>6091796
Definitely, but he's a hell of a designer. He goes to waste at good-feel.

[Anonymous No.6091975]

>>6090995
I see my error

I'll change that to there's also no commercial necessity to appease people diseased by ideas

[Anonymous No.6092682]

So is the translation for 2 out yet or not?

[Anonymous No.6092878]

My friend and I played through all four coop over the last year or so.

By far the best game in the series is the first one. Best music, best platforming, best levels, best suited for coop... It's sort of a rare example of one game in a series just being unilaterally superior to all the others.

The other three games are interesting but of inconsistent quality.

GG2 is fun because it's pretty straightforward and replicates the great platforming from the first game, but we thought it was lacking compared to the first because it was basically just a platformer.
As a co-op game, GG3 sucks. It's very tedious; the overworld elements add nothing to the game except to make it take longer and the puzzles aren't particularly challenging or clever. The 2D parts are good but are also the weakest in the series so why go through the effort? I think this game would be better for those who really like the humor/atmosphere of the series and thus might be better played solo, but for us it was by far the weakest in the series.
The fourth game is a lot like the second: Nearly all of the appeal comes from the 2D platforming segments. That's fine, but it still feels like it comes up short compared to the first game in this regard. The secret hidden best feature is the bug on the options menu that soft locks and turns the game into a procedural free jazz generator.

Does anyone have much experience with the titles not on the SNES?

[Anonymous No.6092882]

>>6092878
>Does anyone have much experience with the titles not on the SNES?
You probably won't like MNSG or Uchuu if you didn't like 3. Also check out GGA and Dynamite, they are the next best platformers in the series after the SNES games.

[Anonymous No.6095306]

Bump for goemon

[Anonymous No.6095339]

>>6092882
I like Shin Sedai Shuumei also. Shit aesthetics, but once you run out of mainline games, this is close enough

[Anonymous No.6095351]

>>6090995
>We're in late 2019, where to some, anything "gendered" is a problem, and the drive that causes Goemon (male) to enjoy company of women in those onsens, or get creeped out by okama in those onsens lusting after him, is shamed as a sort of toxic deviancy, or even a hate crime - as he's supposed to act the opposite way.
Which feminists are complaining about Ganbare fucking Goemon exactly? You're delusional.

[Anonymous No.6095436]

>>6092878
The first PS1 game is very similar to SFC GG3, screenshots above.
The second one is barely playable, a weird top view action RPG that probably tried to be similar to the first N64 game but failed miserably. No one even mentions it.
The third one plays exactly like SFC GG2. It even recycles GGA’s soundtrack (which might be a good thing or a bad thing for you)
The fourth one is the weird “2000s RAD” reboot. Designs are crap, it’s 1 player only, but other than that, it’s pretty solid. It got a very stripped down port on GBA for some reason.
The PS2 game is ANOTHER weird reboot, this time trying to go for a serious spin. It’s again similar to the first N64 game, but I haven’t really played it, don’t know much about it.
The DS game is a top view action RPG. Looks beautiful, has fun touch gimmicks, it just makes me want to know japanese, I feel I’m missing a lot by playing it blindly.

[Anonymous No.6095480]

>>6095436
>The PS2 game is ANOTHER weird reboot, this time trying to go for a serious spin. It’s again similar to the first N64 game, but I haven’t really played it, don’t know much about it.
It's like OoT but shitty, even has block puzzles and a knock-off Ganondorf boss fight.

[Anonymous No.6095513]

>>6095436
Only Uchuu, shit 3D Goemon game, PS2 and DS are by Konami.
The rest is outsourced and a pale imitation of GG2/4.
GBA 1+2 is useful for bonus content in DS.

>>6095351
I have some more screens from when ResetEra had a fit when GG3 and GG4 were released officially unmodified on the Japanese Virtual Console. How much yet on the conspiracy theory scale? Despite their obscurity, these games never fail a few hours in to elicit pure butthurt from some circles.
Tom refused to compromise on Far East of Eden, and DDS hates ResetEra but also is no Wildbill, so it's in good hands. Can't wait for the main show (the games, as they are awesome), then the side show online.

[Anonymous No.6096648]

>>6085635
It's honestly really dumb how much of a soap opera translating old Japanese video games have become. They developed this retarded culture where you get shunned and attacked for daring to translate a game that somebody else announced they were doing first, and with the way a few big groups tend to call dibs on translation projects we're left with the game itself going untranslated. Never had this issue when I was still doing scanlations for manga, one series could have a dozen groups working on it simultaneously and we'd get together to compare what everybody did and how they did it. And if somebody drops it there are others ready to pick it up right away.

[Anonymous No.6096725]

>>6096648
>five groups simultaneously translating the same chapter of big 3 titles like bleach
>meanwhile lesser known titles, completed works and classic works are ignored
yeah no, those were shit times too

[Anonymous No.6096737]

learn japanese NIGGERS

[Anonymous No.6097053]

>>6096737

It's a hard language. Why can't Koreans be so cool and make cool media?

[Anonymous No.6097056]

>>6097053
>Why can't Koreans be so cool and make cool media?
They are and they do. Just none of it is video games.

[Anonymous No.6097076]

>>6097056
K-Pop is shit though.

[Anonymous No.6097084]

>>6096737
>learn a dead language
why? in the next 50 years what few japs remain will be speaking mandarin and barbecuing their pets

[Anonymous No.6097107]

>>6097084
Anon, why do you lie. I come from the actual future, in 50 years humanity won't exist anymore.

[Anonymous No.6097118]

>>6097084
>believing in the "dwindling japan birth rate" fake news

[Anonymous No.6097303]

>>6096648
>you get shunned and attacked for daring to translate a game that somebody else announced they were doing first
maybe two years ago. That Aeon Genesis meltdown about SMT:if really woke people up to the reality.
He had that game on his super exclusive todo list for 15 years (oh, Goemon 2 too btw)
sure, it happens, translations take time. but he was a notorious asshole about it and went and cancelled the project and rant about muh gamer toxicity to kotaku and resetera. you then have the forums who enforce a no sniping projects rule for discussions, but aeon genesis releases competing translations like mystic ark just fine.

THAT opened the floodgates. No one cries anymore "wasted effort you sniping asshole while you could do something else"

> SMT:if had THREE projects going. /vr/ anon and the ps1 version, mystic and pals from the smt subreddit, baddesthacks, AND tom and dds were interested
> sutte hakkun
> metal max - nes version of 1 by supper (the working designs restorations guy) AND ds version of 2
> DDS and Tom (previously broke with AG because his script got "edited" without his knowledge) does his thing with SMT:if and all FIVE Goemon super famicom games
> Star Ocean blue sphere - mz translation cancelled because ag project, gave it to someone who sold it, now gives zero fucks and gave everything to someone else to finish it

shit gets done. drama actors are disposable, when a new project can be started without them.
Avi did the prima donna act for two years and now he is upset other translators are involved in other goemon games, so he withdraws consent to his graphical work and accuses the artist for the other games of stealing his work. Now that artist tells him "fine, i'll redo it. btw i'm redoing your gg2 work."

When someone is useful and productive, he is appreciated.
When not, he is ignored. He isn't begged to come back. Other places that allow discussions of "claimed projects" exist now.

[Anonymous No.6097309]

>>6096648
>you get shunned and attacked for daring to translate a game that somebody else announced they were doing first
maybe two years ago. That Aeon Genesis meltdown about SMT:if really woke people up to the reality.
He had that game on his super exclusive todo list for 15 years . did you know? Goemon 2 was there too
sure, it happens, translations take time. but he was a notorious asshole about it and went and cancelled the project and rant about muh gamer toxicity to kotaku and resetera. you then have the forums who enforce a no sniping projects rule for discussions, but aeon genesis releases competing translations like mystic ark just fine.

THAT opened the floodgates. No one cries anymore "wasted effort you sniping asshole while you could do something else"

> SMT:if had THREE projects going. /vr/ anon and the ps1 version, mystic and pals from the smt subreddit, baddesthacks, AND tom and dds were interested
> sutte hakkun
> metal max - nes version of 1 by supper (the working designs restorations guy) AND ds version of 2
> DDS and Tom (previously broke with AG because his script got "edited" without his knowledge) does his thing with SMT:if and all FIVE Goemon super famicom games
> Star Ocean blue sphere - mz translation cancelled because ag project, gave it to someone who sold it, now gives zero fucks and gave everything to someone else to finish it

shit gets done. drama actors are disposable, when a new project can be started without them.
Avi did the prima donna act for two years and now he is upset other translators are involved in other goemon games, so he withdraws consent to his graphical work and accuses the artist for the other games of stealing his work. Now that artist tells him "fine, i'll redo it. btw i'm redoing your gg2 work."

When someone is useful and productive, he is appreciated.
When not, he is ignored. He isn't begged to come back. Other places that allow discussions of "claimed projects" exist now.

[Anonymous No.6097456]

2016

>Given what's happened with every other project that I've worked on, this seem like the right time to move on with life.

>Relevancy: I have spent the last several years completing my translations of all three Romancing SaGa games (and a few others which have been under wraps), while also diving deep into the code in an attempt to learn ASM. Now that RS1 and RS2 have been released in English, it is clear that this has been thousands of wasted hours.

>Gideon, you can have my graphics for your Goemon 2 project, however my heart says to move forward with game development, and I advise you do the same. Think of it: Your game could be finished now -- so could mine. Not to mention that the satisfaction and accomplishment derived from playing and sharing your own game is a hundred times greater than what comes from translating a game made by another. I can personally attest to it!

>For two decades I was under the influence of this Curse so I can vouch for its real and powerful existence. "The Curse" is enacted whenever an individual chooses to engage in any of the following:

>a) Devoting time to projects when it does not exist, thus neglecting other duties, neglecting loved ones and failing to adequately rest the body and mind in order to manifest such time.

>b) Working on a project which cannot be accomplished alone, or with a team which cannot meet all of the responsibilities.

>c) Spending time on something which has no real appreciative audience, or perhaps has such a small audience as to make the years of effort both pointless and distancing, as those few individuals could have just as easily been gathered and educated or empowered in major ways, with far less time and effort, and to the benefit of all.

>The above examples describe nearly all of the endeavors I've undertaken within the last two decades, in relation to both romhacking and otherwise. This is why I feel that The Curse is tangible and avoidable by those who are strong enough to drop that which

[Anonymous No.6097462]

2017

>Yes the project is still alive and most everything is done on my side of things. That would be: Translation, localized graphics for the many in-game signs and the HUD, Title Screen and Game Over screen, the creation of multiple Latin fonts, and all that kind of stuff. I've sent everything over to DDS Translation. At the moment he is wisely focusing his energy exclusively on Tengai Makyou so as not to get bogged down working simultaneously on multiple projects.

>The translation, font creation and graphics localization are complete, and DDS has already made good progress hacking the game. It should not take as long as what is being estimated here, but the tendency that real life has to blockade or stall hobbies would make a good case against this claim.

[Anonymous No.6097464]

2019

>What, you think that after all these years I've suddenly abandoned ship? And right at the end, with but a few lines of text remaining?

A month later

>Actually the real ugly here is that I have sat up late for countless nights, fighting hard to stay awake, devouring chocolate, listening to loud music, keeping the room cold, ignoring my body's desperate please for rest, only to begin nodding off, again and again, every time I stop typing and start reading. I have pushed myself incredibly hard to finish this project and many days have been pure hell due to the extreme and ongoing sleep deprivation that my sacrifice has resulted in. So it would be ugly indeed if this was all for nothing. But I'm sure a talented hacker can transmute this ugliness into beauty.

>Damn. All my years of hard work and dedication just went down in flames. The toll that it's taken on me is huge, my feelings have been miserable, but really, why fret over something that was completely out of my control? I thought that I could trust my partner, and that this would never happen. Total naivety.

>There's this notion that something may be gained from every interaction and every event in our lives, though, and that's why I'm not going to be sore over this. I've had an incredibly good time in The Scene. It's kind of nightmarish the way every single time I have completed a script, the game in question will suddenly see a release from someone else before my work can be realized (my translations of all three Romancing SaGa games, Stories of Ihatov, Gargoyle's Quest, Sutte Hakkun, and my extensive graphics work on Dark Half, to name a few). But, the journey is what matters and I've had a lot of fun along the way, made friends, learned many useful things that can be applied toward other endeavors, such as how to do pixel art, which is something I learned while working on Goemon 2.

>I will really miss you guys and gals. Now, on to designing original games with my son!

[Anonymous No.6098005]

>>6097456
>Gideon, you can have my graphics for your Goemon 2 project, however my heart says to move forward with game development, and I advise you do the same. Think of it: Your game could be finished now -- so could mine. Not to mention that the satisfaction and accomplishment derived from playing and sharing your own game is a hundred times greater than what comes from translating a game made by another. I can personally attest to it!
TL: Please beg for me to translate this. AG, don't let anyone have it either.

>c) Spending time on something which has no real appreciative audience, or perhaps has such a small audience as to make the years of effort both pointless and distancing, as those few individuals could have just as easily been gathered and educated or empowered in major ways, with far less time and effort, and to the benefit of all.
TL: I want attention.

It all makes sense.
EOP mockers were right all along.

[Anonymous No.6098394]

https://twitter.com/MansourSorosoro/status/1208565253321240576

Oh shit

[Anonymous No.6098469]

>>6097456
>3 years to translate a tiny little video game

The guy doesnt know japanese and is schizophrenic.

Theres no way you could slave away at this every time night for months and NOT be done.

[Anonymous No.6098530]

>>6097456
>>6097462
>>6097464
Absolute fucking psycho. Feels good to know Japanese and not be dependent on people like this.

[Anonymous No.6098876]

>>6085615
They were announced 100 years ago. Then they stalled coz they couldn't crack the compression. Then they cracked the compression and stalled again.
They're never going to finish them. The only games that get translated nowdays are licensed garbage, robot wars shit mostly.

[Anonymous No.6098919]

That's cool, my very first GB game was Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon, Sasuke is my bro (even if his jumps were hard to time correctly).
Got it on Christmas with a purple Game Boy Color.

[Anonymous No.6098923]

>>6098919
I have yet to play that one. Most people say it sucks. I suspect it might not be as good as the console ones but I bet it's still enjoyable.

[Anonymous No.6099003]

>>6098919
>he popped his Goemon virginity with the worst entry in the series
Sorry to hear that.

[Anonymous No.6099434]

>>6097456
>>6097462
>>6097464

Jesus, what self aggrandizing little faggot

[Anonymous No.6099823]

>>6098394
>"just to show it can be done"
but Shinsedai too

[Anonymous No.6099831]

>>6098876
>Then they stalled coz they couldn't crack the compression.
Konami used the same 3 compression libraries on the super nes and sega genesis for the graphics, then a simple compression similar to lufia 2 for the text (most of it is visible with references to earlier text occasionally)
Their methods were known. That was never the problem.

GG2 was by aeon genesis, famous for Shin Megami Tensei: If, then Avi. GG3 and GG4 was by someone in Nightcrawler's forum got banned from RHDN and was a drama magnet.
That was the problem.

DDS and Tom were interested. A based frenchie did a restoration for GG1, and in the process figured a lot about the methods and discovered the delays were never because of technical difficulties. He then decided to do the rest in French. DDS and Tom joined soon after. In a lot of ways it's similar to how Far East of Eden for the Super Famicom was saved from development hell (but that was a german romhacker before DDS and Tom took over)

>The only games that get translated nowdays are licensed garbage, robot wars shit mostly.
Depends on which translator you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.6100032]

>>6099003
I didn't know better.
That game and the N64 Goemon I played on Toys 'r Us for like 10 minutes were my only experiences with the series.

[Anonymous No.6100067]

>>6097464
>desperate please

[Anonymous No.6100317]

>>6085615
I replayed The Legend of the Mystical Ninja last year on the SNES, and I thought the platforming was really impressive. Boss fights were fun, but the last boss had some real ridiculous 1 frame, pixel perfect jumps to dodge some shit that gave me a hard time.

It's also crazy that no what translation scene it is, there is always drama.

[Anonymous No.6100441]

>>6099823
>"just to show it can be done"
lol an earlier tweet by Tom said something along the lines of "I could translate those next, but let's see if someone is able to hack into them first", but the tweet was deleted. I guess he realized he was overcommitting.

[Anonymous No.6100472]

>all 4 snes goemons soon
>some dudes are testing translating the ps1 goemons and have progress
2020 might be a great year for goemon and new fans

[Anonymous No.6100968]

>>6100441
>>6100441
He said he will finish Zill 'O Zill and a Devil Children game first, then "consider" those. Nothing wrong with that. He's in no rush either way, considering a committed romhacker didn't crack these games open yet enough for issues like font size and the like.

Tom regularly scrubs clean his twitter. Values his privacy and was almost doxxed before, or got misguided hate directed to the ex-Xseed localizer Tom Wyrdward.

[Anonymous No.6101028]

>>6097076
that's because all pop is shit, that's why it's pop. there's plenty of good korean cinema.

[Anonymous No.6101041]

>>6100472
the autist in me is preemptively mad that goemon might become an autistic fandom like mother 3, but if this happens there's at least a slim chance konami will give us an actual goemon game at some point

[Anonymous No.6101059]

>>6101041
Nintendo never did bother to bring Mother 3 overseas, what makes you think Konami will revive Goemon if there's a surge in interest?

[Anonymous No.6101128]

>>6101041
goemon threads will drop in quality but probably will result in new yae porn

[Anonymous No.6101139]

>>6101128
Mein cock ist bereit

[Anonymous No.6101147]

>>6101041
Konami doesn't even bother to dig up the IP corpse for pachinko anymore, and Ebisumaru is based on a traitor who teamed up with Nintendo for Good-Feel, along with most of the original talent (except the composer. he had a falling out with Good Feel after 2017 for some reason)
When they localized NES Kid Dracula in 2019 they removed Goemon references except one coin with Ebisumaru. It's like they pretend it doesn't exist.

How would unofficial translations save Goemon?

>>6101059
Bad example.
They did plan to, and even reissued the first two games (one of which was unreleased officially) but the third part has content "Tokyo Mirage Sessions" NoA would never localize.
As they realized their official product would be worse than the fan patch, and would replace the fan patch (author said he'll take it down if it releases officially) and cause outcry by fans because it's worse (but some circles like ResetEra actually hope it will replace the first "problematic" translation that conveys it the way it is), but they couldn't just release it intact because they're NoA after all, they did the next best thing: nothing.

You can play Mother 3 unofficially very easily with a very high quality fan localization true to its source material, and "support the developers" with the first two games.
You could support Brownie Brown with Story of Seasons x Doraemon, Fantasy Life, whatever.
You could support Mother 3's ex-event designers with Heroland and newer Onion Games releases.
Shady? Nintendo knows about the fan translation, and has let that be known repeatedly.
They won't miss your $40 for an overpriced GBA rom.
They don't even have a proper Switch VC, and never will with how developers know better than put their shit there.

All is fine with the world. Except collectors, and reseteratards upset by inadequate "trans representation" who really want the existing fan translation outlawed and replaced asap. But patch rewrites exist for them, and should be ignored.

[Anonymous No.6101375]

>>6086593
"POW RIGHT IN THE KISSER!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJTSIYAGR84

[Anonymous No.6101414]

So wait. What the fuck happened with GG2's translation?

[Anonymous No.6101438]

>>6101414
The tldr version is >>6099831

[Anonymous No.6101764]

>>6101414
No one cares about the former drama-rife GG2 projects.
The current ones are already finished and missing some graphical replacements.

[Anonymous No.6101770]

>>6101128
>that goemon anime that got an english dub
it adapts GG2-4 fairly decently. but it's still a saturday morning cartoon.

[Anonymous No.6101790]

There was a leaked build of a dropped project for the Ebisumaru spinoff. Only the story and NPC messages are translated. It's unpolished as hell. The old projects were all supposed to look like this because none implemented proportional fonts, which adds more length restrictions. More reasons to look forward to that Tom+DDS collaboration.

Here it is, for those impatient to see what the big deal is. This is the puzzle side game, not the main series.
https://anonfile.com/H58bU1Jbnb/ebisu_sfc_en_7z

[Anonymous No.6102504]

>>6101790
based

[Anonymous No.6103737]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRfTT56w-v0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8phY0-y0V5w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eQZiAd6UGo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOQ4rP8U4hk

The spinoff is the least localization unfriendly game of the bunch.

[Anonymous No.6103913]

>>6103737
I didn't know that Ebisu game even existed.

[Anonymous No.6103952]

Which games have Yae being cute.

[Anonymous No.6104170]

>>6103952
All of them. Even in 2 where she isn't playable, she winks at you from a screen at the start of the first Impact Battle

[Anonymous No.6104807]

>>6089001
shut the fuck up and you didn't deserve those nappadubs

[Anonymous No.6105403]

>>6103737
Weird that they localized Bismaru as “Bismal”, considering it was canon localized as Bismaru in GGA, and even if it wasn’t, the play on Ebisumaru’s name is kinda lost.

[Anonymous No.6105440]

>>6103952
Goemon's Great Adventure has Lum Yae.

[Anonymous No.6105657]

>>6105440
Maid Sasuke, though...

[Anonymous No.6107174]

Happy new year /ggg/

[Anonymous No.6108215]

>>6107174
And to you

[Anonymous No.6108458]

Any source on the rumor that the Pachinko games were made reusing assets from a cancelled PS3-era game?

[Anonymous No.6109084]

>>6103737
\>goemon the video game exists in the goemon universe
bruh

[Anonymous No.6109486]

>all this twitter drama
So are we getting goemon translations or not?

[Anonymous No.6110531]

>>6109486
Nope. It'd probably be faster to just learn Japanese and stop being an EOC.

[Anonymous No.6110705]

>>6109486
The worst is over.

[Anonymous No.6110727]

>>6110531
>It'd probably be faster to just learn Japanese and stop being an EOC.
Yeah right. I've learned on this site that most """JOPs""" just use a text hooker and MTL, and the japanese they do know they translate it like a molasses covered kindergartner.

[Anonymous No.6111298]

>>6109486
No they are not. I’m sorry. You can leave this thread now, and ignore any subsequent ones

[Anonymous No.6111346]

>>6111298
Strap in JOP shitter

[Anonymous No.6113428]

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE PATCH