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6069769 No.6069769 [Reply] [Original]

Bomb spamming is not a legitimate strategy to beating these games and you only come off as a scrub for doing so.

>> No.6069774

It's scrubby but legitimate. The bombs are a key mechanic, they're a resource that's meant to be used in which ever way the player sees fit. DDP gives way too fucking many bombs though, most Cave games do. I prefer games with few/no bombs or bombs that have a very specific use.

>> No.6069841

>>6069769
Who cares? It's just a shmup anyways.

>> No.6069880

>>6069769
>NOOOOOOOO YOU CANNOT USE LEGIT MECHANICS

>> No.6069887

>>6069769
Westerners will never care, anyway. They only care about the little numbers on the top of the screen going up, and much 1cc.
Japanese players are the ones who care about elegant and beautiful gameplay styles, which westerners try to copy, but without even thinking about that, they copy them because on top of not caring about beauty, westerners also suck and need to copy strategies.

>> No.6069903
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6069903

>6069887
Most westies I know are conscious about how their replays look in terms of style, not just score. It's another cause of restarts and concern for us too.

>>>6069769
Doesn't matter , a shit clear is still a clear and afterwards you can concentrate on actually getting good and scoring.

>> No.6069935

>>6069769
Maybe just play something skill based like Battle Garegga or Batrider instead?

>> No.6069936

>>6069887
But scoring demands no bombing, and westies are the ones that popularized NMNB as its own challenge independent from scoring which is all about clean play. Why do you pretend like you know what you're talking about anon?

>> No.6069947

>>6069769
Just play the fucking game. Nobody cares about your cave bullet hells. Just enjoy it quietly.

>> No.6070049

>>6069769
A shame they had to ruin the game with the god awful 5 year old voice overs. I prefer traditional shmups like the 19xx series or psykios strikers.

>> No.6070056

>>6069774
I agree. This is why i dont like bullet hells by cave.

>> No.6070060

>>6069769
What the hell is with all these shmup shitpost threads as of late?

>> No.6070062

>>6069935
>skill-based
Raizing/Yagawa shmups are more about luck than skill, though.

>> No.6070063

>>6070060
/shmupg/ doesn't exist anymore so their shitposts leak into /vr/.

>> No.6070069

>>6070056
Nah it's just an excuse you make because you got your asshole torn apart by Caves

>> No.6070072

>>6070069
Cavecuck cope

>> No.6070076
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6070076

>>6070069
>he thinks Cave is hard
Post your Tatsujin Ou 2-ALL.

>> No.6070092

>>6070076
>you think hitting a hammer on your hand is bad
>WELL TRY PUSHING NEEDLES ON YOUR EYES
Fuck off masochists. You're pathetic

>> No.6070093

>>6070076
Cave's not hard? Which 2-ALL's or Ultra mode clears did you get then?

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6070124

>>6070049
good taste mate.

>> No.6070787

>>6069769
Does it work? If so it's legit. Does that bother you? If so it's autism.

>> No.6072107
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6072107

I'm playing all games in MAME with cheats, even using invincibility in some, especially shmups
Does it trigger you?

>> No.6072116

>>6072107
No it just sounds really boring. I feel kinda bad for you

>> No.6072134

>>6072116
I'm old enough to have wasted lots of time on practicing perfection in many games
When you have a choice of hundreds of great games to play you can just appreciate the pixel art and the music, something you simply cannot do when you concentrate on winning only

>> No.6072138

>>6072107
Yeah kinda

>> No.6072145

>>6072134
Sounds like you don't even like games then and just want a timewaster. You can appreciate art and music even better in videos or stand alone soundtracks because you get to pause or rewind at your leisure and truly focus on each individual detail. The pleasure of games comes from trying to win, practicing and improving and seeing your skills grow.

>> No.6072157

>>6072145
It all depends on the game, some I play normally using a dozen (or more) of virtual quarters, but some like bullet hell shmups I simply do not have patience to even try to master

>> No.6072193

>>6069769
Dimahoo (Arcade) All Bosses (No Damage)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3RgoQHJ66A
this video is so full of shit when you watch it at 0.25 speed - you can clearly see he's using invincibility

>> No.6072194

>>6069769
Reminder that watching videos to learn how to play an arcade game is scrubby and for the authentic feeling you should be coming up with your own paths.

>> No.6072270

>goes through the game without using bombs
>final boss/hidden final boss
>just spams bombs and suicides to replenish them

why is this allowed?

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6072551

>>6072270
Welcome to shmupitalism you pinko faggot. What I do with MY hard earned bombs is MY business. Kiss off snowflake!

>> No.6072557

>>6072551
based

>> No.6072629

>>6072270
It's called resource conservation and strategy

>> No.6072638

>>6072194
In reality it's the opposite, the good players don't mind learning from their betters or peers while the scrubs stick with shit-tier routes because of some imaginary excuses

>> No.6074328

>>6069774
My personal favorite approach is when "bombs" are plentiful but more like special attacks (psikyo often does this) instead of full screen clears. Maybe they clear a small area around your character, but they can't save you from full screen bullet patterns and are more useful as a speed kill tactic or for helping clear popcorn depending on the individual character's bomb attack.

>> No.6074819

>>6072638
This. How is watching someone else play online any different the watching someone at an arcade other then you aren't physically in the same place as them. Seriously people improve by learning from others. People need to quit being autistic and just learn to enjoy playing games

>> No.6075453

>>6074328
I like the bombs in Espgaluda. There's an autobomb mode, but it drains your whole bomb meter, so it's better to bomb manually if you can.

>> No.6075592

How do you feel about shmups where your primary attack isn't regular fire? Something like Vasara, Dragon Blaze or Tengai where the majority of the time you're using charged attacks at close range. Does it ruin the fun for you, or make things more exciting by forcing you to play in the enemy's face?

>> No.6075594

>>6075592
Not really my thing, but there's room for that approach as well.

>> No.6076024

>>6075592
I've been playing the vasara collection and its a pretty fun change of pace. I like how aggressive you have to be.

>> No.6078575

>>6072270
Nothing else to use them on at that point.

>> No.6078710

>>6069887
Don't go all weeb on me Simon the US invented shmups.