HOMM/MM (Heroes of) Might & Magic(:Heroes) General

[Anonymous No.6069431]

"Doomer vs Bloomer" Edition

Previous thread: >>6038018
HoMM3 pastebin: https://pastebin.com/6G9B1cMA

[Anonymous No.6069434]

Okay people, bad news first: apparently Factory isn't going to come out on January 1, so we'll still be relying on memes to keep this general alive:
>http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=39830&pagenumber=376

[Anonymous No.6069436]

There were a few interesting questions asked in the previous thread that didn't get as many responses as they probably could (if we didn't have that shitty autosage limit), so I'll repost them here:

Anon (>>6065415) asked:
Is the Homm5.5 mod any good? Also, how do you guys rank the HOMM5 factions?

Anon (>>6068340) asked:
What do you guys like more? The normal hero? Or the kind offered in 4?
Not that theyve been any good so far, but I hope that if they ever make an 8, and if they actually end up making it good, thag it has the type of heroes that were in 4.

[Anonymous No.6069440]

[Anonymous No.6069454]

>>6069436
From what I recall from more than a decade ago, the problem with H4 heroes was that they started off completely useless and you were better off just having a stack of units, but became unstoppable murder machines if you bothered to level them up enough. With very little in-between. It was an idea, but one that didn't work out.
I personally prefer the H5 sort of heroes. Mostly passive, but with abilities and an attack.

[Anonymous No.6069513]

>>6069431
why did we never get lizard people race after homm III weren't they popular?

[Anonymous No.6069520]

>>6069513
The lack of Tatalia and Krewlod in MM7 was criminal

[Anonymous No.6069575]

>>6069434
>January 1
Will SUCK WAR v1.0 meme get released?
>>6068528
What map are you playing?
>>6069454
You only have heroes in The Gathering Storm's last mission. You can train Dragons before facing the last boss.

[Anonymous No.6069713]

>>6069520
>The lack of Tatalia and Krewlod in MM7 was criminal
Hold up senpai, are you talking about MM7 the RPG or Heroes VII? Because the latter takes place in a completely different (and more retarded) universe.

[Anonymous No.6069715]

>>6069513
Fuck scalies

[Anonymous No.6069748]

>tfw you will never make a game like Quake
why am I cursed to be nodev

[Anonymous No.6069982]

>>6069513
we got enough of them in government, dont need more of them ingame

[Anonymous No.6070025]

>>6069520
But Tatalia is in MM7
Lord Asshole lives there

[Anonymous No.6070542]

>>6069715
>Fuck scalies
Don't mind if I do.

[Anonymous No.6070953]

>>6070542
Is that Lizardmen's pole dancing?

[Anonymous No.6071101]

Are M&M 7, 8 and 9 recommended? They look... ugly.

[Anonymous No.6071208]

>>6071101
They looked like poop then too, but just like your wife, you don't pick em based on looks.

[Anonymous No.6071346]

>>6070025
Kinda-sorta. It's right on the edge of the swamp and most of the map is dominated by the snowy northern reaches. I wanted to delve deep into the sort of area the Fortress faction from HoMM3 was based out of.

[Anonymous No.6071420]

My last game on a random map. Month 3, week 4.

[Anonymous No.6071423]

>>6071420
Kingdom overview.

[Anonymous No.6071468]

>>6071420
>month 3 with that many units
how in the fuck
even in games where I play a year and have 3 of the same town and a grail I never get that many

[Anonymous No.6071470]

Am I the only one who actually liked V? Like, a lot?

[Anonymous No.6071523]

>>6071420
>>6071423
Cloak of the Undead King + 8K Liches
What map is this?
>>6071468
My guess, it's a G (giant) size map in HoTA.

[Anonymous No.6071529]

>>6069713
That's not Evermorn, that's Vori.

[Anonymous No.6071547]

>>6071523
It's not HotA, it's SoD. Random map, Jebus Cross template, XL+U, 200%, strong monsters.
>>6071468
Expert diplomacy. I had 2 mass joins of behemoths, 3 joins of death knights, and all manticores on Kyrre were joins too (there are 0 dungeon towns on this map).
8000+ liches - obviously, cloak of undead king plus expert necromancy. Even better, necro specialist (Isra).
2500+ demons - pit lords raising demons. Gogs, dogs, ogres, orcs, dwarves, even dendroids were converted into demons.
400+ ghost dragons - converting hydras and green dragons from fortress and rampart towns and external dwellings plus diplo too.

[Anonymous No.6071717]

If the pastebin is anything to go by, HoMM3 is the most played one and THE ONE to get, right?

[Anonymous No.6071743]

>>6069440
explain this meme

[Anonymous No.6071831]

>>6071717
>HoMM3 is the most played one and THE ONE to get, right?
Correct on both counts. Some contrarians here like to claim 2 or 4 were better (and they are in certain aspects) but overall, 3 is THE definitive HoMM experience.

[Anonymous No.6071836]

>>6071470
You're never the only one on the Internet. I'd go so far as to say 5 was the best HoMM game after 3 - 2, 4 and 6 did some things right but the overall package was lacking in comparison, 1 is too old to be realistically enjoyable at this day and age and 7 shouldn't have had existed in the first place.

[Anonymous No.6071853]

>>6071743
Initiative so bad that they never get to wait

[Anonymous No.6072545]

>>6071831

> Some contrarians here like to claim 2 or 4 were better (and they are in certain aspects)

Wait what? Damn, I need to check /vr/ more often.

>>6071836
I am actually positively surprised by people praising 2, 4 and 6 for getting some things right instead of just dickriding on the 3th (and sometimes 5th) game all day - even if it's because it still holds up well, whatever you prefer it with official expansions or with the most famous mod.

I keep forgetting 7th one exists. I think I've played it once and I remember that AI turns were much longer than mine. What an absolute trainwreck

[Anonymous No.6072563]

>>6069434
Holy shit I never noticed the fish on the wall

[Anonymous No.6072568]

>>6069440
what's the point of wait?

[Anonymous No.6072605]

>>6072568
You move your units' turn at the end of the turn, basically some of the fastest units can technically have two turns, one after the other if played well.

It gets crazy if the unit can block the counter attack on top of that.

[Anonymous No.6072624]

>>6072545
I used to like 4 more than 3, but over the years switched to liking 3 more.

[Anonymous No.6072643]

>>6072624

>The quality of writing in campaigns in vanilla H4
>The quality of shitpost that was Winds of War
>The quality of ... wait there was a second expansion?

If only the campaigns weren't so easily softlockable I'd redo them more often. I think I only finished the Necro / Gauldoth's campaign on highest difficulty so far.

[Anonymous No.6072718]

>>6072545
>I am actually positively surprised by people praising 2, 4 and 6 for getting some things right instead of just dickriding on the 3
Yeah, if I remember correctly, 2 is mostly praised for its cohesive art style and operatic soundtrack; 4 for its story (just like >>6072643 mentioned) and inclusion of things like caravans and being able to move creatures independent from your hero or have more than one hero in a single party (reminiscent of AoW) and 6 was praised for diversifying its encounters by adding boss creatures.

As a side note, I also liked that almost every creature in 6 had some sort of an ability and I was also a fan of the reputation system because I like to roleplay as a moralfag (see Mass Effect). And also snakewaifus.

[Anonymous No.6072768]

>>6072718
Can't forget 4's music too. I listen to those tracks a lot because of how comfy they are, sea theme most of all.

https://youtu.be/hkDXNSWJLuo

[Anonymous No.6073214]

>>6072768
>Can't forget 4's music too
Yeah, about that...
>https://soundcloud.com/nyarcel/sets/amg-complete-celt
>https://www.eluukkanen.com/social-media-posts/how-a-comment-on-a-song-can-get-someone-sued-composer-of-heroes-might-and-magic-in-trouble

[Anonymous No.6073232]

>>6069434
I wish they would give us something

I dunno, reveal new units, show new features, something on a regular basis to keep the hype from being completely dead

We've gotten nothing since May about Factory

[Anonymous No.6073262]

>>6073214
Most of the songs from that library are altered enough to be distinguishable. Besides, that article does state that they purchased the rights to use the library when they made the game. So I dont see any problem?

[Anonymous No.6073518]

>>6073232
Dolphins are fucking grey skinned sea niggers

[Anonymous No.6073567]

>>6071853
what is the icon at the top right?

[Anonymous No.6073636]

bleh

[Anonymous No.6073826]

Posting this for (You)s before Seth shills it here himself:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukr5SPMlzOY

[Anonymous No.6073942]

>>6073826
nice to know there are others out there who realise the deep connection between minotaurs and dark elfs

[Anonymous No.6074052]

>pink AI has access to fly and just skips across the map and grabs two of my best cities I thought were safe
>comes at me with multiple tier 7s
>they mixed in undead so their angels did nothing the whole fight
And I was Conflux so
>kill them and it says their flag was vanquished
Why didn't they capture something easier? Is there something even scarier out there considering they had no cities? I haven't played this game in over a year maybe starting on an XL map was a bad idea, I feel like they were running from something.

[Anonymous No.6074660]

>>6072718
>4 for its story
After reading through Heroes Chronicles, 4 felt just like uninspired fan fiction

[Anonymous No.6074875]

>>6072718
>>6072643
what about 5?

[Anonymous No.6074881]

>>6074660

desu I like Tarnum, but HC always felt like a fan fiction to me.

[Anonymous No.6075383]

>>6069434
Hota Dev here (have a cool picture as a proof)
Same guy who trolled you with evil hobbits town a while ago in fact. This time telling you the truth, while trying not to spoil shit too much:

- Major work on the addon was suspended for the whole summer and half of the autumn. We've resumed only by the mid autumn
- I hate the atmosphere of the "secrecy" we have here. Feels like folks are thinking if something leaks and the world will end. There are plans to make articles revealing more info but I feel Factory itself will go live faster than this articles are written.
- The promised "summer" patch with wasteland terrain is aimed to be released on new year. It's much bigger than planned (and not only because the actual amount of job to make wasteland good is larger than we anticipated) and will have some long-wanted changes as well as balance changes. If all goes according to plan ofc.
- The factory itself advanced greatly in past 2 months. All units but one have 3d models and animations. Tier 7 creature looks fucking amazing in my opinion.
- Townscreen has almost all buildings but some still waits for remodeling from the scratch.

Factory will arrive to hota and pretty soon, don't worry!

[Anonymous No.6075502]

>You've pulled a shipwreck survivor from certain death in an unforgiving ocean. Grateful, he rewards you for your act of kindness by giving you the Armageddon's Blade

[Anonymous No.6075505]

>>6072568
incredibly useful if you consider speed and sequence, for example let's say you have a unit with speed 10 and everyone on enemy team has less speed than that, you can wait with your unit and after enemy used up all of their turn you can use the 10 speed unit to attack and you will instantly start next turn first so you get to either attack again or cast a spell or whatever
common tactic in heroes is to use a powerstack of strong and fast units and use it to one shot enemy stacks so they don't retaliate and wait command is one of the best ways to abuse that

[Anonymous No.6075530]

>>6075383
>Wasteland soon

[Anonymous No.6075553]

>>6075383

YO thanks for the post

>- I hate the atmosphere of the "secrecy" we have here. Feels like folks are thinking if something leaks and the world will end.

I imagine Docent must really be protective of his and other people's work. I just really hope the balance changes are good and doesn't change too much. Will also be interesting to have a new terrain that doesn't have a native faction - for now.

Is it possible that maybe we'll get some of the Factory units as neutral units first (kind of like with Halflings) in the updates before the Factory release? This coupled with wastelands would help us - mapmakers - a lot with coming up with new good maps before the Factory release.

[Anonymous No.6075559]

where do i start with the might and magic franchise if i'm a casual first timer and just want to have simple and easy fun without wrestling too much with ancient UIs and obtuse mechanics?

[Anonymous No.6075561]

>>6075559

Start with 3
End with 3
Not the Steam HD version
Maybe try russian HD mod

anything between 2-6, King's Bounty series and Clash of Heroes is worth a try if you enjoy 3.

[Anonymous No.6075587]

>>6075383
>have a cool picture as a proof
What's with the chromatic aberration?
>Major work on the addon was suspended for the whole summer and half of the autumn.
Any particular reason as to why?
>I hate the atmosphere of the "secrecy" we have here
You're not a regular game dev studio so I'm not even sure why you bother with secrecy, writing articles or whatever else Docent_Picolan (aka "Resistance in HotA is now Shatter Magic from H5 because I don't like RNG in my RNG game" dude) is trying to do on HeroesCommunity - people who know about and still play HoMM3 are almost certainly going to be aware of your existence, for better or worse.
>actual amount of job to make wasteland good is larger than we anticipated
In what way? Gameplay or art-wise?
>don't worry
I doubt anyone here is worried. Just be semi-realistic with your assessments or upfront with admitting that you underestimated how long it would take you to make a new terrain/faction and you won't catch any flak for it.

[Anonymous No.6075658]

Are there mods or scripts for HoMM 2 that let you choose characters? I like Sandro, because he's a cool skeleton guy.

[Anonymous No.6075660]

Is Heroes VI any good? How does it compare to V?

[Anonymous No.6075704]

>>6074875
>what about 5?

You mean what do people praise V for? I'd say it's the entire package. It's obvious that V isn't a perfect game by any stretch of the imagination:
- story is hot garbage;
- uninspired, generic or overdone aesthetics (pic related);
- 3D graphics, although solid for their time, didn't age that well;
- the way skills/abilities interact or build upon each other isn't explained anywhere;
- lack of random map generators (AFAIK) limited the replayability significantly;
- the few dozen man-made maps that were available are generally considered to be too constrictive and AI is far more A than I (and takes an eternity to finish their turn)
...

However, it's also obvious that this game was made by people who liked the previous installments of the franchise and wanted to improve upon it:
- Necromancy and OP spells such as Slow, Haste and Town Portal got revamped (others would say nerfed);
- heroes were more than statboosters and spellcasters (as in I, II & III) but weren't so OP that they could win a battle on their own (IV);
- what used to be nearly or totally useless skills were boosted (Learning aka Enlightenment also gave you stat bonuses as well as boost in exp gained) or at least weren't as disruptive (ending up with a shit skill like Eagle Eye aka Arcane Intuition was now a two-step process - first you had to possess Enlightenment and then you had to be so unlucky that EE was the best choice out of the 4 skills offered at level-ups);
- alternate upgrades (added in ToE) allowed for some flexibility in creating your army;
- caravans (present in IV and re-added in HoF) eliminated daisy-chaining;
- 3D town screens
...

You anons are welcome to add anything else I forgot to mention in these two lists or even re-arrange them as you see fit (i.e. you see something I mentioned to be an improvement as being bad and vice versa)

[Anonymous No.6075715]

>>6075704
Got your AKAs backwards, friend

[Anonymous No.6075732]

>>6075704
Are Caravans really something bad?
I thought it was a good idea

[Anonymous No.6075751]

>>6075553
> I imagine Docent must really be protective of his and other people's work.
While this, it's impossible to underestimate Docent's impact on Hota.
Simply laying it out: No Docent = No hota. It's a project of passion for him and he do A LOT of job for it:
recruiting, music, 2d refining for ALL objects on map, 2d refining for units, concept arting and many more tasks.
Hell, apart from rough 3d models of mountains, lakes and trees entire landscapes of Highland and Wasteland are done by him.

Speaking of recruiting, Alex-ander (who modeled entire Cove with all units) isn't as active as back in those days. He still has made 1-2 units for Factory, but most of 3d stuff is now on shoulders of a several artists (including me) - both old-timers and talented newcomers. So our rate of progression vary. Wouldn't be a lie to say there are 3 times more people working on Factory than on Cove.

>Is it possible that maybe we'll get some of the Factory units as neutral units first (kind of like with Halflings) in the updates before the Factory release?
Absolutely not. And even in my opinion, unnecessary. This is my estimate only, but I hope Factory will be completed pretty soon after new year update. Unless.. you know, We'll scrap all content and start over :)

> What's with the chromatic aberration?
I'm fooling around. Had to make it look like an old photo.
Btw 4-chan exclusive content!

>Any particular reason as to why?
Because we all have lives and hota isn't generating any money. Docent mentioned this a few times in articles. It's pretty usual to halt development at summer for us. Nothing out of ordinary.

>In what way? Gameplay or art-wise?
Art-wise.

[Anonymous No.6075773]

>>6075704
>lack of random map generators
Tribes of the East has a random map generator, but I noticed that the AI takes a gorillion years to finish its turns compared to the premade scenarios.

[Anonymous No.6075791]

>>6075715
>Got your AKAs backwards, friend
You got the gist of it, that's important.

>>6075732
>Are Caravans really something bad?
Some people (including myself when I was younger) may think that collecting an army from dwellings deepens the tactical gameplay (e.g. the Tier 7 and three 5 dwellings are few days away from your Capitol but are on opposite sides so you have to optimize how you can get these units the quickest while still doing shit around the map instead of just pressing 'Send caravan button'). Now I just see that as QoL improvement that can also give the retarded AI a fighting chance if you choose to ignore it yourself.

>>6075751
>Because we all have lives and hota isn't generating any money
Neither did Black Mesa at first. Unfortunately, Ubisoft isn't Valve and is more content raping the legacy of M&M franchises through gachas than supporting you people.

[Anonymous No.6075798]

>>6075791
>You got the gist of it, that's important
Oh yeah no doubt, just for future reference

[Anonymous No.6075801]

>>6075791
>Some people (including myself when I was younger) may think that collecting an army from dwellings deepens the tactical gameplay
But caravans also allow for cool shit, since you can interact with them in the middle of the way and take or add creatures. Also, you can raid enemy caravans to cut their reinforcements! Plus, the fight for distant dwellings becomes like a nice mini secondary objective.

[Anonymous No.6075895]

>>6075801
>since you can interact with them in the middle of the way and take or add creatures
Ah, I forgot about that!
>the fight for distant dwellings becomes like a nice mini secondary objective
What do you mean? Like, making sure the dwellings can't be taken by the enemy or something else?

[Anonymous No.6075928]

>>6075895
Some of the dwellings (outposts) in the game are actually defended by its creatures and you have to fight them to take over.

[Anonymous No.6076438]

>>6069431

awesome thread

[Anonymous No.6076860]

>>6075704
UbiSoft was in charge of the story and they told Nival loud and clear that they don't want any science fiction in their fantasy world, not even implied.
Who was the marketing hack that told them that this generic shit is what everyone digs?

[Anonymous No.6077271]

>>6076860
Learn from history (HoMM3 Factory).

[Anonymous No.6077287]

>>6076860
Lord of the Rings had come out recently and was a huge success

Everyone wanted in on that Tolkein fantasy. Look at Oblivion.

[Anonymous No.6077350]

>>6075383
Are there any changes planned for vanilla factions or the cove? Really I just wish for Conflux to be reworked, their early game is boring garbage where you do nothing but build storms and hope for the best
Is magic system rework still a thing?

[Anonymous No.6077447]

>>6071717
personally I like 4 a bit more, but yes, if you want real homm experience go with 3

[Anonymous No.6077468]

>>6075559
m&m or heroes of m&m?

[Anonymous No.6077472]

>>6075660
You can convert cities and dwells, and all creatures stockpile, so you can buy them in one place, and even if you won't buy it in 1st day of the week, even if someone would snatch one of your cities, you don't lose the units as they are already in stack.
Necro is weaker than in 5, Dungeon (from expansion) is fucking OP.

[Anonymous No.6077474]

>>6077472
So its basically City rush.
Oh, also there is no more RNG when you level up, you just choose skill from the tree, and also no rng in tavern, you can buy any hero you want, and revive him if he dies with no problem

[Anonymous No.6077614]

>>6077271
They shouldn't've budged.

[Anonymous No.6077651]

What was his major malfunction?

[Anonymous No.6078247]

>>6077651
85% of the history of 2000s vidya is just a slideshow of power-drunk nerds wrecking the businesses they built in the 90s

[Anonymous No.6078267]

>>6077350
How to rework Conflux though?

[Anonymous No.6079360]

I wish really big maps had an increased hero limit. Especially shit like Barren Lands where there is no Town Port or Dimension Door. This is absolute hell.

[Anonymous No.6079504]

/vr/ros I need some help. I downloaded a HoMM2 app. Things were going smooth, everything looked good.
But then when its the week of the mummy the map fills up with mummies, like at least 5 groups of these guys. Did this happen in the original or is this something that was programmed in? I can't remember it ever happening in the original...

[Anonymous No.6079515]

>>6079504
I dunno about 2 but in 3 when it's the month of a creature they spawn on the map

[Anonymous No.6079565]

>>6072718
2 is a great game regardless of the art and music, I don't know why people have such a hard time seeing that.

[Anonymous No.6079574]

>>6079360
I wish there was a way to edit hero limit as well, only I want it down to 4. Probably will make AI harder as well, since it wont split its units as much.

[Anonymous No.6079581]

Just had a random thought about what it'd be like if we had a "sky realm" akin to the underground. Floating islands where you need either fly, portals, or dimension door to travel across them. Flying magical boats perhaps?

[Anonymous No.6079632]

>>6074660
More like the other way around

[Anonymous No.6079752]

>>6077614
Who? NWC or Ubisoft?

[Anonymous No.6079756]

>>6078247
Most the the game companies I love died because of those power-drunks

[Anonymous No.6079763]

>>6079574
Make inaccessible places where you store 4 heroes for each factions. No towns, just small lands (4 hex).
But I don't know if the AI is clever enough to dismiss them.

[Anonymous No.6079951]

>>6079763
I want to play every map with 4 hero limit, not just specific ones.

[Anonymous No.6079952]

>>6079581
"Sky realm" is what the New World Computing version of Heroes 5 was going to have.

[Anonymous No.6080043]

>>6079752
NWC

[Anonymous ~ No.6080114]

>>6079756
>>6078247
most of the companies i loved were sold out to EA and destroyed.

TBF, some of them were gonna go bankrupt anyway.

[Anonymous No.6080116]

>>6073636
What happened to the sssssssssacha poster?

[Anonymous No.6081428]

>>6080116
ssssssacha

[Anonymous No.6081692]

>>6079952
>Sky realm
Tell me more please
>>6080043
I played M&M (played since M&M 3)series first before playing HoMM series (played since HoMM 1) so I know and like the sci-fi element of it.
But I must admit the design is a bit silly.
Most of them who protested was shocked because of the sci-fi element, they didn''t know that the demons are not the usual demons.
>>6080116
Was petrified by medusa's gaze.
Oh, here comes the ssssssacha >>6081428

[Anonymous No.6081717]

>>6071470
You're in every thread.

Give it a rest.

[Anonymous No.6081718]

>>6081692
>>Sky realm
>Tell me more please
It was mentioned in one interview, I don't know if it was this one or another, you can read for yourself though:

https://www.celestialheavens.com/viewpage.php?id=95

[Anonymous No.6081867]

>>6081692
The sci-fi angle ruins the immersion.
Period. It is good they got rid of it.
Dont care about muh lore and all that nerd shit.

[Anonymous No.6081965]

>>6081867
Immersion of WHAT exactly?
It was the charm of the series in that it was not a generic high-fantasy wankfest.
M&M 1 is probably the game with the best plot twist I have played yet.

[Anonymous No.6081971]

>>6081692
>But I must admit the design is a bit silly.
It was silly, but it was also early alpha.

[Anonymous No.6081990]

>>6081965
What plot twist?
The sci-fi thing?

[Anonymous No.6082129]

Maybe this is an adequate place to ask: do you guys like the Age of Wonders games? Which one is your favorite?

[Anonymous No.6082217]

>>6082129
>do you guys like the Age of Wonders games? Which one is your favorite?
I only played III but I enjoyed it quite a bit. In fact, I'm playing a random scenario right now. From what I've heard, it's the weakest entry of the series (or at least the entry that deviates from the original concept the most) but I'm finding it really hard to return to the first game due to its age.

[Anonymous No.6082361]

>>6082129
I played 2 and Shadow Magic. They were enjoyable, but my buddy that introduced them to me said they were the "next Master of Magic", and I didn't think they got that good. Gameplay got a bit repetitive, and it was far too easy to defend cities with masses of ballistae, which IIRC any race could build.

Still, the games were neat, and the AI was reasonably good. I have some fond memories of that game, especially a fight in which 2 Orc Warlords with the Vampiric ability held off an absolutely huge horde of lower tier enemy troops and emerged battered but victorious at like 8:1 odds against.

[Anonymous No.6083357]

[Anonymous No.6083389]

>>6083357
what meme is this?

[Anonymous No.6083661]

>>6083389
>what meme is this?
Handshake scene from Predator:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txuWGoZF3ew
Joke is that neither creatures have hands.

[Anonymous No.6083987]

How do I play any HoMM game?

[Anonymous No.6083990]

>>6083661
MARK IV STYLE MOTHERFUCKER

[Anonymous No.6084028]

>>6078267
Remove them

[Anonymous No.6084534]

>>6081717
Literally first time my dude

[Anonymous No.6084706]

Answer >>6083987 please, because even in Easy, in I get rekt.

[Anonymous No.6084726]

>>6084706
All I can really say is keep playing? Getting good at homm3 isn't so much about skill as it is about knowledge of the stuff in the game.

[Anonymous No.6084728]

>>6084706
Chain your heroes, build creature dwellings first and take gold from chests? I dunno, something like that.

[Anonymous No.6084730]

>>6084726
But no matter what HoMM, I get rekt. Well, except the fourth one. In very easy. But it's because I start with all buildings.

>>6084728
>chain heroes
Sorry, what?
>build creature dwellings first
That might be it, I usually focus on economical building and the AI knocks on my door with T4 creatures while I have T2 monsters.

[Anonymous No.6084758]

>>6084730
>Sorry, what?
Let's say you have a Gold mine protected by Lots of Gargoyles and your main hero, Crag Hack, has your entire army and is 3 days away from getting to put a flag on the resources. 3 days is a lot of time just getting to your destination, and your army is unlikely to take debilitating losses in the engagement, so it's a chore.

However, let's say you also have Yog and Rashka on the route to said Gargoyles. Let's also assume Crag Hack is standing a full day's worth of travel away from Yog, who is standing a full day's worth of travel away from Rashka. Crag Hack can move to Yog, transfer all the troops and artifacts to him. Then Yog repeats the process with Rashka. Rashka uses his movement points to conquer the Gargoyles and flag the mine.

Crag Hack, Yog and Rashka in this example formed a chain, doing a route that would take 3 days in only one day. It will take another day to return the units back to Crag, but he will still have full movement points. Rashka and Yog are also liable to pick up any other minor stacks littering the road while they're travelling with Crag's army.

Hardcore chaining has you hire 8 hero chains spanning huge distances and allowing every single bit of the chain to conquer a little bit of your land, making it extremely efficient for exploration and expansion.

If you're a total noob, though, just make sure that you have at least a few heroes and have them rotate mundane tasks and try small examples of chaining. Don't have your main hero chasing after every single little Goblin stack just to pick up a Gem Pond - let your secondary heroes borrow the army and do the same! Movement speed is very precious and trying to hero solo everything is just too slow.

And definitely do learn to gather your money through conquest. Try going Rampart / Ivor, upgrade Elves as fast as possible (Day 1, if you can!) and go as aggressive as you can muster! Savescum and practice fighting against AI forces with Elves and Centaurs.

[Anonymous No.6084763]

>>6084730
>Sorry, what?
Don't run back and forth every week to buy new recruits in town with your main hero, use secondaries spaced ~1 day between each other so they can transfer new units from town to your main instantly. Also, leaving only fastest units on a hero at the end of turn will give him more movement points next day.

[Anonymous No.6084776]

>>6084730
I recommend starting with Restoration of Erathia campaign if you're completely green because this one gives you a pretty clear learning curve and lets you learn the basics at your own pace without needing to feel threatened by an AI suckerpunching you through a Two-Way Gateway outside of your town because the map you went for didn't feel like playing nice.

[Anonymous No.6084778]

>>6084776
Is it III? IV? Or even V?
IV doesn't have upgrades, and V has TWO.

>>6084758
>>6084763
I see. Thanks for the hint.

[Anonymous No.6084961]

>>6084758
>>6084763
How do you time your heroes so they can reach exactly 1 day movement from each other?
>>6084776
HoMM3 Original Campaign (not expansion set)

[Anonymous No.6085227]

>>6084961
>How do you time your heroes so they can reach exactly 1 day movement from each other?
Don't worry about that right now, just make sure they're spanning a decent distance for now. Any movement points left after you're done can always be used to pick up a resource off the floor or reposition slightly, so you don't have to be too anal about it.
Remember that when you pick a destination that is too far away (some arrows are "red") a tiny number next to the horsey icon will tell you how many turns it would take you to reach the place assuming nothing changes (as >>6084763 points out movement speed on the map depends on the speed of your slowest unit in the army, so an army with 20 archangels and 1 skeleton moves much slower than an army with 20 archangels alone).

[Anonymous No.6085243]

>>6079952
>"Sky realm" is what the New World Computing version of Heroes 5 was going to have.
That's not at all what can Caneghem said, he wanted to make the map strictly one-dimensional. >>6081718

>JVC: Yeah, the Underground just didn't seem to add much except for cunfusion. It was... the way I originally designed it was, I made the Underground, and I think it was Heroes III it first appeared... a lot of our maps ran out of room for little treasure caches. So I said well, I could make this little Underground, you could go down and there would be a little bit bigger of an area where I could actually have a little treasure cache based where you were. The big maps it made sense, but the mapmakers went wild and turned it into an entire... thing, and now we had two maps instead of one, and it kind of went in a diredction it wasn't intended to.

>CH: So are you planning on doing an alternative system to the Undergound, or just keeping it a single-layer map?

>JVC: Keeping it the single-layer. I mean, we can always add it back... and there were orignal plans were for a cloud layer, an Undergound, an alternate plane, and... (but those won't happen)

But even if 3do wouldn't go under, the game would be rushed and panned anyway. Honestly, you have to question his judgment at this point if he considers taking underground down as something that would go well. Oh, and the furry elves. What the fuck.

[Anonymous No.6085259]

>>6085243
Elves are already faggots, so making them furries isn't that surprising.

[Anonymous No.6085261]

>>6075704
I dropped HOMMV after a few days or a week at most, all I remember from it is that
- they replaced the hexa grid with a square grid (wtf)
- heroes can choose to either attack directly or cast a spell once a turn
- the town scenes looked FUCKING ACE, I spent more time rotating those around than playing the rest of the game. Just look at this picture, this is some idyllic shit right there.

[Anonymous No.6085276]

>>6085261
So you forgot about how Demons were shit, how good ranged units were, or how brutal the AI would be, making a beeline to your city the moment you showed weakness.

Or how they fucking advertised a ghost mode to keep you busy while other people were playing, and then didn't put that fucking mode in singleplayer, meaning you had to wait for the AI to slooooooowly play while you contemplated your life choices.

[Anonymous No.6085295]

[Anonymous No.6085296]

>>6085295
Slayer? Man, that takes me back.

[Anonymous No.6085298]

>>6085296

[Anonymous No.6085303]

>>6085298
Is Ice spell more efficient against the wet Nagas?
Also wouldn't having more than two naga queen in a stack means a lot of infighting?

[Anonymous No.6085314]

>>6085261
HOMMV implements ATB instead of normal turns. Hasted fast units can get 2 actions compared to slowed slow units.
>>6085298
Which mission?

[Anonymous No.6085315]

>>6085314
Obviously the one where you face off against like 6500 Naga Queens. It's the Faerie Dragon mission. A k a the one where everyone's immediate reaction is "holy shit" followed by "oh I guess Expert Berserk is handy"

[Anonymous No.6085392]

What were they thinking ?

[Anonymous No.6085410]

>>6085315
Oh that one. I never finished the Dragonslayer campaign because it's time limited and the faerie dragons are so hard. I used to think Fire school is the worst.

[Anonymous No.6085418]

>>6085410
>Fire school is the worst
It generally is considered so because most of its benefits are somewhat niche and don't improve your early game as much as other schools and Berserk is either "utterly broken" or "stopped by a not very rare artifact, Badge of Courage".
It's still not like unplayably bad but there's a reason people don't favor it all THAT much.

[Anonymous No.6085515]

>>6085418
Fire magic is great on meme maps like wayfarer where berserk and frenzy are broken as shit, on regular random maps or in multiplayer it's generally much inferior to all the other schools of magic.

[Anonymous No.6085646]

>>6085243
I actually agree with him on the underground, this is one of the things Heroes 2 is superior to 3,

[Anonymous No.6085767]

>>6085646
Why? Many original multiplayer and campaign scenarios feature complex underground levels, not just passages and treasure stashes. This criticism doesn't even make sense in the first place.

Simulating dungeons with closed-off mountain locations with a portal inside like in H2 is corny as hell.

[Anonymous No.6085875]

>>6085418
Just get an army of ifrits. Nothing else. Endlessly cast armageddon.

>>6085392
They were thinkin in the right direction. Actually, in the wrong direction since they didn't make a monstergirl unit.

>>6085767
Yeah I feel underground doesn't deserve critism at all really. Any criticism directed at it should really just be directed at the people who made certain maps not doing well enough at map design.

[Anonymous No.6086050]

anyone else like playing large and medium maps instead of xl?

[Anonymous No.6086164]

>>6086050
Me, for example. I don't really like huge maps in any TBS game, they are just such a chore.

[Anonymous No.6086175]

I wanna spank a fairy.

[Anonymous No.6086192]

>>6086050
Yep, definitely. I never play xl maps because they're just a chore. You win in an hour or so and then play for 12 more to play whack a mole with the AI. I think medium maps are the best ones. Just enough time to get to fully built towns for the final fights.

[Anonymous No.6086202]

>>6086050
I very rarely play anything under large. If I'm just bored and looking to waste a little time, I'll pop in a medium, but outside of that it's large+

[Anonymous No.6086278]

>>6086202
t. brain

[Anonymous No.6086428]

>>6069713
>Bracada desert
>town is snow themed
What did they mean by this?

[Anonymous No.6086571]

>>6075704
I loved units having a 'use' in V. No more bullshit like just 'kinda nice melee unit with no whistles,' they all had some sort of additional function or buff or debuff, a spellbook, some sort of neat passive. It was great.

Also Liches that could Reanimate Dead c'mon

[Anonymous No.6086583]

>>6075383
>secrecy
Wouldn't want people to lift your secrets surrounding a, what, 20 year old game?

I get indie development like this takes a special kinda autism but Jesus it's weaponized at that point

[Anonymous No.6086798]

>>6085767
>not just passages and treasure stashes.
This is exactly why its inferior imo.

Underground that is not just small passages works fine on really tightly paced and controlled custom maps (Unleashing the Bloodthirsty style of map), but on random or regular maps, it just doubles the map size, which in practice mostly adds tedium (again on non good hand made maps).

I think the strength of the Underground is where you put small pockets here or there on the map on places with little traffic, put a fuck you strong guard, and have it as a little bonus area where you have to return to later, and not as another plane.

Even a lot of great handmade maps don't feature no Underground (and of course all Heroes II maps), so its not like it adds something unique, a good map maker doesn't even need to use it, or can work around it to have the same effect, and I like it when things are incorporated on one plane better, its more immersive.

So its just bloat that gets misused most of the time to make the game more tedious and less immersive. Its a tool that empowers lazy designers to make worse maps.

[Anonymous No.6086807]

>>6086798
So in summary, its a good element in theory, where if used for small things or map tricks it can be useful and good, but because of human nature its gets misused and overall just makes maps worse.

[Anonymous No.6086813]

>>6086807
Also also, without the Underground map makers have to be more considerate of the limited space they have, usually making each zone of the map better, where with an Underground which magically doubles the map size, especially if its done just out of a need to have an "impressive" + U map, the average quality of each zone suffered.

Design by subtraction/minimalism is key in making good anything games related, and Underground flies in the face of that.

[Anonymous No.6086828]

>>6084776
Restoration of Erathia is a complete piece of shit, probably the worst maps in all of Heroes, with the exception of the last map of the Inferno campaign (Siege of Steadwick? or whatever it was called). Don' recommend them to anyone, they will just bore them to tears.

[Anonymous No.6086842]

>heroes era of chaos android freemium game is set on Erathia
>clearly targets at nostalgia
>infects a beautiful world with generic korean moba art, only worse, its also gacha
pic related, remember the gogs of inferno?

[Anonymous No.6086851]

>>6086842
I'm all fine with monstergirls and lewd units, but jesus christ...

[Anonymous No.6086858]

>>6086842
I made a lot of lewd with gacha models, but this is something else.

[Anonymous No.6087251]

>>6086842
Post the (ancient) Behemoths. I wanna see monstergirl verisons of that

[Anonymous No.6087305]

>>6086842
so which unit is the based waifu?

[Anonymous No.6087314]

>boomer

[Anonymous No.6087315]

>doomer

[Anonymous No.6087316]

>zoomer

[Anonymous No.6087318]

>>6086842
You are behind curve, even as a freemium. You should be min 38 now

[Anonymous No.6087320]

>>6086842
Look, they have to give people some reason to play Inferno outside of theorical Armageddon spam with ifrits, and it wasn’t going to be demon farming.

[Anonymous No.6087696]

I'm currently testing a L map I built. Would you say it's acceptable if it takes about 1 in-game month until you start encountering PC enemies and getting into serious battles?

All my previous maps were M so I'm a bit unsure about the right pacing of a bigger map.

[Anonymous No.6087751]

>>6087696
One mounth sounds about right, but also depends on how many players.

[Anonymous No.6087787]

>>6087305
Pic related.

[Anonymous No.6087806]

>>6087305
The Stacy of HoMM

[Anonymous No.6088506]

Im a newfag to this and my friend loves playing conflux, how do i fuck his shit up?

[Anonymous No.6088530]

>>6086842
post fairy & pixie pic of era of chaos.
he >>6086175 wants to spank them.

[Anonymous No.6088540]

>>6085418
Yeah, I've seen videos of anons played maps with RPG stories. The enemies outnumbered him like 10 times, he cast expert Berserk on them and let them beat their own units.

[Anonymous No.6088550]

>>6087787
I want everyone who reads this to envision, in depth and rich focus, one of these guys going to town on your knob.

[Anonymous No.6088587]

>>6069431
/v/-tier OP

[Anonymous No.6088721]

>>6088506
Go Conflux mirror and make it a race to conquer the map faster with OP Conflux features like Sprites, Phoenixes, starting heroes (Luna / Ciele / Grindan).
If you're both really casual players you won't feel any of the Conflux OPness so just pick your best, if you're a total newfag probably Rampart / Ivor or Castle / Tyris or something else that creeps fast and easy.
If the game will go long go Necro
Or if you have HotA installed then Conflux is much harder to play (though still high tier)
It's hard to tell from context because Conflux doesn't really have relevant weaknesses (shit tier 4 and 5 don't matter if you can take on multiple dwellings no one else can do day 1, poor ability to wage resurrection wars doesn't matter if your army is bigger and better and you aren't fighting really late)
so just pick your best, conquer, expand harder and win

[Anonymous No.6089182]

So, we've got

>Normal Castle Troops
>Wizards and Golems
>Elves and Nature
>Elementals
>Goblin Barbarians
>Swamp monsters
>Pirates
>Steampunk Cowboys
>Dungeon Enemies
>Skeletal Necromancers
>Unviable Demons

What are some untouched themes that would be welcome additions as factions? Personally I'd go for bees as an insectoid faction. To any Might and Magic lore aficionados, are there any notable absences that would make welcome additions?

[Anonymous No.6089205]

>>6089182
>bees as an insectoid faction
Isn't that kind of a thing in MMVIII?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIJERKpnRzU

[Anonymous No.6089231]

>>6089182
not very innovative, but damn still want the russian snow dwarves

[Anonymous No.6089243]

>>6089182
Cyborgs (Factory)
Robots
Aliens
Ancients (godlike race in MMverse)

[Anonymous No.6089246]

>>6089243
Inferno is already aliens though.

[Anonymous No.6089338]

>>6089246
I know >>6081692 but they look like demons.
I meant proper aliens who look like aliens.

[Anonymous No.6089387]

>>6089338
>>>/x/ will tell you those are demons

[Anonymous No.6089423]

>love Metropolis and Inferno
>they literally always suck

[Anonymous No.6089424]

>>6089205
Exactly, based buzzy bois

[Anonymous No.6089558]

>>6089182
East Asian mythology remains relativley untouched in HoMM. Would be a great theme for a town. As I got to thinking about it, I started having fun with the ideas. Japan has the most variety of mythological creatures, China has a decent amount, but the rest of the countries have very little or they share them with China. Asian mythology is somewhat different from western and middle eastern in that almost all of them are either harmless, mischievous, or indirectly affect humans like with fortune, luck, disease, etc... so the choices are more limitted. I'll list some examples of creatures of how it could look. When I list special abilities, it doesn't necessarily mean the unit would have all of them, I'm just throwing ideas.

Chinese Dragon
Description: The dragon is also a symbol of power, strength, and good luck for people who are worthy of it. Just as water destroys, they said, so can some dragons destroy via floods, tidal waves, and storms.
Special Abilities: FLying, +2 luck to allied units, can cast water attack spells (similar to fairy dragon ranged attack)

Datsue-ba
Description: An old woman who sits at the Sanzu river, the crossing to the afterlife, who removes clothes (or skin if unclothed) of the dead.
Special Abilities: Lowers defense of clothed units, increased attack against unclothed units?

Jubokko
Description: A yokai tree that entangles it's victim and sucks out their blood. A jubokko branch could heal an injured person.
Special Abilities: Vampirism, can cast sacrifice on itself.

Pixiu
Description: Resembling a strong, winged lion, the Pixiu is said to go out into the world in search of gold and other forms of wealth and, bringing it home to its Master. Though it has wings, they are too small to give lift to its body.
Special Abilities: Dwelling increases gold mine output by 50%, crystal and gem by 100%, immune to misfortune

[Anonymous No.6089561]

>>6089182
(continued)
Gashodokuro
Description: Spirit taking the form a giant skeleton formed from amassed bones of people who died in battle. Some claim they are indestructible.
Special Abilities: Life drain, can cast shield on itself (level corresponds to hero's wisdom)

Jorogumo
Description: A ghost that has transformed into a beautiful spider woman that manipulates small fire-breathing spiders.
Special Abilities: Ranged attack up to two hexes away if clear line of sight. Something akin to fire shield or death stare?

Onibi
Description: Spirits of the resentful dead that have become small floating orbs of fire. While they don't emit burning heat, they suck out the life from their victims.
Special Abilities: Flying, immune to fire spells

Tikbalang
Description: The ghost of an aborted fetus that has transformed into a humanoid horse. Lures its victims into the forest before devouring them.
Special Abilities: ???

Fenghuang
Description: Reigning over all other birds, the Fenghuag is often said to hide during times of trouble, but it also appears to mark the beginning of a new era. With it's wings spread, it attacks with it's talons.
Special Abilities: Flying, hates serpents

Kappa
Description: A humanoid frog and turtle like creature that dwells in bodies of water. Though often relatively harmless, doing michievous things like peeking up women's skirts. They have a darker side; drowning, eating, and raping.
Special Abilities:

[Anonymous No.6089563]

>>6089558
>>6089561
Any creature that is small, cute, and spankable?

[Anonymous No.6089602]

>>6089563
I have just the thing for you. The Koropokkuru. Kinda similar to dwarves in that they're viewed as just a different race. Unlike dwarves, they're often depicted as much shorter (less than a foot), with females, and with a similar build as normal people so no shortstacks.

[Anonymous No.6089657]

>>6089602
Won't do, they're too cute to spank. Just like pic related, too small and too cute.

[Anonymous No.6089658]

>>6089657
Hmmm, a spank might be too much too. It could squish them. Maybe soft pats?

[Anonymous No.6089665]

>>6089658
I don't get any sexual satisfaction from headpatting cute things, but that'll do. It's another satisfaction.

[Anonymous No.6089671]

>>6089558
>East Asian mythology remains relativley untouched in HoMM
You sure about that buddy?

[Anonymous No.6089680]

>>6089671
Thats why I said relatively untouched, they haven't done much. The Qilin, snow maiden, and kappa is pretty much it. Will admit though that I completely forgot about the kappa. I didn't play 6 very long.

[Anonymous No.6089694]

>>6089680
and wanizame, sorry

[Anonymous No.6089914]

>>6089231
dwarves that live in Moria and mine shit in a volcano was overdone by the time Warcraft did it and when Ubisoft did it it was just stupidly glib
One of the strengths of HoMM that was discarded over the years is that factions often consist of wildly different creatures that are only sort of loosely connected with a theme so when Ubisoft went with monoracial factions for each one it felt boring and dumb, like a creativity black hole.
If you really want a northern faction, there's room for it, something Viking-like maybe, but without necessarily DUDE MORIA LMAO

[Anonymous No.6089969]

>>6089914
>If you really want a northern faction, there's room for it, something Viking-like maybe
Why not inhabitants of Vori? According to the lore, three creatures lived there - Snow Elves, Frost Giants and Azure dragons - so you could have a mix of these creatures along with polar bears, arctic wolves etc. One HotA member joined one of the older threads to say that they intend to make a northern-like faction but that it won't be composed out of 'random snow dwarves with no place in the universe':
>https://yuki.la/vr/5473006#p5486905

[Anonymous No.6089994]

>>6089914
>when Ubisoft went with monoracial factions for each one it felt boring and dumb, like a creativity black hole
Compared to what, lifting 90% of your units straight from DnD Monster Manual? Very inspired and creative, yeah.

[Anonymous No.6090143]

>>6089558
Homm6

[Anonymous No.6090153]

What's the difference between all the bilinear/bicubic filters in the HD launcher? I've just been playing with 32-bit + bicubic.

[Anonymous No.6090213]

>>6087305
The sprites. I remember liking them so much, I made a custom map where you spank them.

[Anonymous No.6090215]

>>6090153
HoMM III HD?
REFUND IT IMMEDIATELY, ANON. It lacks the expansions. Get the original game from Good Old Games.

[Anonymous No.6090230]

>>6090215
I'm talking about the HD mod.

[Anonymous No.6090235]

>>6090230
Phew. You scared me.

Right, back to sprites spanking.

[Anonymous No.6090389]

>>6090213
You're that French guy who made that map for spanking sprites, aren't you?

[Anonymous No.6090394]

>>6090389
No. (Lie).

[Anonymous No.6090445]

Can you just not get rid of artifacts in HotA? I have to make extra trips just to sell them?

[Anonymous No.6090469]

>>6090394
Why did you delete your masterpiece?
WHY

[Anonymous No.6090483]

>>6090469
Because it was literally just a glorified interactive fanfiction where you just answer "yes" or "no" to question such as "do you want to spank her?"

[Anonymous No.6090558]

Official units that exist for you to let their numbers stack up in your city until you are suddenly about to get besieged without being able to bring your army back in time, then you hire and maybe upgrade them all: Golems, Dwarves, Earth Elementals, Walking Dead, Ogres.

[Anonymous No.6090568]

>>6090558
I think Ogres are pretty good. They have same speed with Orcs so they don't slow you down if you bring Orcs. Ogre Magi can cast Bloodlust for you troops while protecting the Orcs from fliers.

[Anonymous No.6090774]

>>6090394
Hehey, alle vouz baisser sa culotte is the only french I know and it's thanks to you.

[Anonymous No.6091025]

>>6090774
Don't repeat it.

[Anonymous No.6091034]

>>6089182
>What are some untouched themes that would be welcome additions as factions?
Eldritch, sanity-melting space time horrors
never-ever
http://heroes3towns.com/?town=asylum&page=arts

[Anonymous No.6091057]

>>6090774
>It had questions like "Allez-vous lui donner la fessée?" and then immediately "Allez-vous baisser sa culotte?"
from the old thread

[Anonymous No.6091058]

>>6091034
Cthulhu faction would be nice

[Anonymous No.6091095]

>>6089671
nuHeroes doesn't count.

[Anonymous No.6091179]

>>6091095
6 is still solid game. 7 is an atrocity and should be removed

[Anonymous No.6091183]

>>6081965
Immersion into a mythological fantasy series.

Again i could not give less of a fuck about the lore or the M&M series. I feel i can't stress this enough.

[Anonymous No.6091240]

>>6091183
>mythological fantasy series
Which it isn't
The first HoMM mentions portals and most HoMM items come from the heavenly forges, which were mentioned inside the game as well.
Also the lack of GODS renders your mythological aspect bullshit

[Anonymous No.6091245]

>>6091240
Ehh, I love the MM lore and wish the Forge had come to pass, but I understand where detractors are coming from. They want their quasi-Tolkien, nothing wrong with that.

[Anonymous No.6091249]

>>6091245
There are so many quasi Tolkien games, why do people want more of the same?
That's why I liked M&M so much in the first place. Also no quasi Tolkien setting ever did justice to the Elves.

[Anonymous No.6091282]

>>6091240
>lack of GODS renders your mythological aspect bullshit
What do the monks/zealots from Castle worship though?

[Anonymous No.6091295]

>>6091282
obviously Asha

[Anonymous No.6091296]

>>6091282
Me.

[Anonymous No.6091359]

>>6089969
this fuckin rocks, curse you anon for making me hopefull to ever see this

[Anonymous No.6091513]

I'll regret asking, but any lewd map for these games?

[Anonymous No.6091514]

>>6091282
They are more of a hospital chain than a church.

[Anonymous No.6091541]

>>6091295
Not NWC's MM verse

[Anonymous No.6091789]

>>6091541
don't worry anon, Asha uses all

[Anonymous No.6091793]

What's a good player to watch for any HoMM game?

[Anonymous No.6091804]

>>6091793
Hellight, Fire to Sky. mostly russians

[Anonymous No.6091819]

>>6086842
wouldn't mind homm3 with units changed to monster girls

[Anonymous No.6091826]

are there any channels like theknownworld but for hommV?

[Anonymous No.6091880]

>>6091826
Homm5 was redeemed? I remember people hating it.

[Anonymous No.6091882]

[Anonymous No.6091954]

[Anonymous No.6092080]

>>6087751
5 players on an islands map. It works fine on Expert difficulty but at Hard or lower the AI take forever to buy ships, it's almost as if it's the absolute last thing they do when they have explored every corner of their starting island

I guess the map is going to work a lot better when it's played by 5 human players...

[Anonymous No.6092183]

>>6091826
>are there any channels like theknownworld but for hommV?
Meridian did a playthrough of HoMMV; not sure about him playing random scenarios tho:
>https://www.youtube.com/user/martindzurenko/playlists

>>6091359
>curse you anon for making me hopefull to ever see this
Don't feel so bad; HotA anon said they'd be for creating more lore-friendly factions, and Vori sort of fit the bill (that's actually where Gelu is from).

[Anonymous No.6092207]

>>6092183
Thanks homie.

[Anonymous No.6092393]

>>6091954
it all fits except fortress
no way in shit they're good
something like CN at best

[Anonymous No.6092450]

>>6091954
Wizard should be in the good alignment.
>>6091882
What meme is this?

[Anonymous No.6092473]

>>6092450
Exactly what it looks like. It's a real theory of narrative development and people do funny examples

[Anonymous No.6092487]

>>6092450
>Wizard
>Good

[Anonymous No.6092506]

>>6092487
They had a city of angels hovering over their nation

[Anonymous No.6092576]

Are the Heroes Chronicles campaigns any fun?

[Anonymous No.6092606]

>>6091882
Fuck, this is great

[Anonymous No.6092650]

Someone please tell me how I can play homm3 on my phone

[Anonymous No.6092667]

>>6092650
Play HoMM3 gatchashit version.

[Anonymous No.6092760]

>>6092487
They've traditionally always been a "good-aligned" faction as a foil to the evil Warlocks.

[Anonymous No.6092987]

>>6092650
vcmi

[Anonymous No.6092991]

>>6092450
Fortress deserves the spot over Tower because they did literally nothing wrong

[Anonymous No.6093005]

>>6092991
Fortress is neutral. Tower is good.

[Anonymous No.6093065]

>>6069431
I just got homm3 on from the GOG store, would you guys recommend playing vanilla or getting the HD mod?

[Anonymous No.6093079]

>>6093065
HOTA (HD is included)

[Anonymous No.6093084]

>>6093065
HD mod. Once you feel like you've gotten your fill of the Vanilla campaigns, instead HotA. (The only downside with HotA is there's no support for the original campaigns yet, hopefully that'll come soon.)

[Anonymous No.6093101]

>>6093079
>>6093084
one thing I've noticed with the HD mod is you don't get the message box when you take over a lumber mill / coal mine etc. like you would in vanilla (pic related). Is this normal?

[Anonymous No.6093175]

>>6093101
It's a feature and you can turn it off if you want. Open the HD launcher, go to the Tweaks tab, and find the line that says
<UI.AdvMgr.SkipMapMsgs> = 1
and change that 1 to 0.

[Anonymous No.6093190]

Brehs I really wish hota would release the update. I have nothing to do and nothing to play.

[Anonymous No.6093235]

>>6093190
Nothing to do, nothing to play, so what's wrong with exploring if you're gay?

[Anonymous No.6093259]

>>6093235
>if you're gay
Don't need to explore anything if you know what I mean.

[Anonymous No.6093273]

Merry Christmas HoMM3!

To spread the cheer, remember that one day there'll be a proper Snow faction.

>>6093190
There's just a few more days, you can do it Anon! Succession Wars is supposed to get something too right?

[Anonymous No.6093298]

>>6093273
SUCK WARS meme mod >>6069575

[Anonymous No.6093456]

>>6093084
>The only downside with HotA is there's no support for the original campaigns yet
You can actually play them in hota as custom campaigns.

[Anonymous No.6094143]

>>6092487
In Eador, a similar turn based game, magic users are aligned unscrupulous at best. There are active patrols of inquisition that hunt down and burn these heretics and reward you for helping.

[Anonymous No.6094279]

>>6094143
Isn't Eador super unfun?

[Anonymous No.6094332]

Which HoMM had that really nice song with the drums?

[Anonymous No.6094613]

>>6089994
>Compared to what, lifting 90% of your units straight from DnD Monster Manual?
Yes. It was soulful. At least the diversity was there.
>>6091179
>6 is still solid game.
6 is barely Heroes with how much they fucked up logistics and skills

[Anonymous No.6094615]

>>6092487
Erathian wizards are good, they're engineers and utilitarian at worst, it wasn't until Ubisoft came through with their jewish subversion memes that they became some kind of powertripping eugenics masters

[Anonymous No.6094675]

>>6094615
Please don't go on your antisemitic rant again, /pol/.

[Anonymous No.6094768]

>>6094675
What's the matter Shekelstein?

[Anonymous No.6094778]

>>6093273
This anon knows da shit

hotanon didn't say anything

[Anonymous No.6094805]

>>6094615
When did Ubisoft touch the original setting?

[Anonymous No.6094832]

>>6094615
>powertripping eugenics masters
>not good
What are you, a faggot?

[Anonymous No.6094835]

>>6091954
Why is there a blank space in the center?

[Anonymous No.6094838]

>>6091880
Pre-tribes HoMM 5 was mediocre at best.

[Anonymous No.6094874]

>>6094615
Golemcraft is the quintessential Jewish magic

[Anonymous No.6095070]

>>6094279
Eador Genesis, the old but still up updated 2d sprite game, is amazing and rivals homm3.

The pitfalls of Eador's popularity are the new 3d graphical versions are bulky and slow, also most of the games have a default difficulty similar to impossible on homm (one of the main mechanics of the game specifically encourages save-scumming), it has a very long repetitious campaign.

idk the Russian devs that still work on that game understand what makes these tilers fun.

[Anonymous No.6095147]

>>6093273

>To spread the cheer, remember that one day there'll be a proper Snow faction.

Can't wait to see my kids still play H3 and Hota Crew miss their deadlines for their next town

[Anonymous No.6095157]

>>6094613
>6 is barely Heroes with how much they fucked up logistics and skills.
So did 4. Being this different from 2/3/5 shouldn't be a sin though. It is more of a spin off, down to the point where it's closest stylistically to Clash of Heroes.

[Anonymous No.6095282]

>>6094615
>wizards were good until Ubisoft

Wasn't Gavin Magnus a huge dick in HoMM 4?

[Anonymous No.6095320]

My 7yo niece saw me playing homm3 while visitting. She kept asking to sit in my lap and watch while I played.
Later I went to get food and she got on the computer and tried to play.
Currently answering questions every 10 seconds. Mostly shes just exploring, buying heroes nonstop, and "dressing" the heroes with artifacts.

[Anonymous No.6095324]

>>6095320
She's already better than I was as a kid since I didn't buy a lot of heroes.

[Anonymous No.6095402]

>>6095320
Based

[Anonymous No.6095472]

>>6095320
Wholesome.

[Anonymous No.6095634]

>>6094835

You need to buy an expansion or get a Complete Edition (HD edition gtfo) to reveal it.

[Anonymous No.6096085]

>>6095320
Congrats! Have her trying the fourth one.

[Anonymous No.6096142]

>>6095320
Aaaw...

[Anonymous No.6096158]

>>6095282
He wanted world peace, maybe his method wasn't the best, but it worked

[Anonymous No.6096220]

>>6096158
So did Hitler.

[Anonymous No.6096230]

>>6096158
So did chairman Mao.

[Anonymous No.6096237]

>>6096220
>>6096230
both hitler and moa methods wouldnt work on long run, while Gavin would make eternal world peace

[Anonymous No.6096238]

>>6096237
Killing everyone isn't world peace.

[Anonymous No.6096242]

>>6096238
He didn't want to kill, only mindbreak a little

[Anonymous No.6096246]

>>6096242
Like the care bears?

[Anonymous No.6096253]

>>6096246
Like the Ur Quan. The Quzer Za.

[Anonymous No.6096324]

What the fuck is a magog?

[Anonymous No.6096328]

>>6096324
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gog_and_Magog

[Anonymous No.6096332]

>>6096328
>the one who will destroy Israel
Seems based to me.

[Anonymous No.6096613]

Why do griffins kidnap angels and keep them in conservatories?

[Anonymous No.6097139]

glad to see you guys still going at it

[Anonymous No.6097268]

>>6095320
based

[Anonymous No.6097518]

>>6096613
They're jelly of angels' superior aerial speed.

[Anonymous No.6097729]

>>6096613
They protect them from heroes who want to abuse their powers

[Anonymous No.6098126]

>>6093456
Im pretty sure you can't

[Anonymous No.6098283]

>>6098126
Are you certain?

[Anonymous No.6098340]

>>6098283
yes, from hd mod you need to check heroes3.exe, when you use h3hota.exe, in custom campaigns you see nothing

[Anonymous No.6098353]

>>6098340
What a pain.

[Anonymous No.6098370]

>>6098126
>>6098340
Just extract the campaigns like this:

http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=26941&PID=609298#focus

Then put them in the maps folder. I'm playing them right now with hota.

[Anonymous No.6098373]

>>6098370
thank you

[Anonymous No.6098426]

>>6098370
>>6098373
Can you post a zip ?

[Anonymous No.6098439]

>>6098426
A zip for what? You just need the game installed, that ResEdit thing should be able to easily get the campaigns ready for hota.

[Anonymous No.6098452]

>>6098439
Yeah but I'm retarded.