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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>6045346

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR


Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
https://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

>> No.6056385

=== NEWS ===

[12-5] GMOTA 1.4 released
https://combine-kegan.itch.io/gmota

[12-4] Nova 3, a 32 level megawad
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98624-nova-iii-rc1-available/

[11-28] Defrag World Cup 2019
https://dfwc.q3df.org/comp/dfwc2019/

[11-26] French Meat 2 for Blood released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/french-meat-2

[11-22] Wrath: Aeon of Ruin is now in Early Access
https://twitter.com/3DRealms/status/1197892935867666433?s=19

[11-21] Death Wish for Blood updated to version 1.6.9
https://www.moddb.com/mods/death-wish-for-blood

[11-21] Port of PC version of Powerslave/Exhumed released
https://forums.duke4.net/topic/10872-pcexhumed-exhumedpowerslave-pc-port

[11-17] ZSDF editor anon releases AceToolkit
https://gitlab.com/accensi/acetoolkit

[11-17] Shrine, a total conversion for Doom II
https://www.moddb.com/mods/shrine

[11-15] Triune Discovery and Jump Boots for Quake have released
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61791

[11-13] Andy Olivera steps down from maintaining DSDA, new site available
http://doomedsda.us/news.html
https://dsdarchive.com/

[11-12] ZMovement 3.0 released earlier this month
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=65095

[11-12] D4T 2.5 slated for a November 16th release
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=122klRWFl5A

[11-14] Death Wish for Blood updated to 1.6.8
https://www.moddb.com/mods/death-wish-for-blood

[11-6] DBP17 RC2 released, an Aliens-themed mapset
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/110070-dbp17-alone/

[11-4] MORTIS, a gameplay mod
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=66279

[11-4] BlooM, a Doom/Blood crossover
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=66261

[11-4] GMOTA 1.3 scheduled for the 15th this month
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIACyDExUj8&feature=youtu.be

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>> No.6056409

>>6056404
Wahoo yeah

>> No.6056413

do I have to use the replacement textures if I'm using openGL in aleph one? and why is the mouselook so shit

>> No.6056428

>>6056385
Akeldama, a 32 level vanilla compatible megawad has released a beta. https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103867-akeldama-first-beta-released/

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Doom Retro Master Race

>> No.6056476

Ive always played Doom here and there but this summer was the first time ive gotten the itch to sink my teeth into the mods. Since then ive been playing through a couple mods a week. Post your favorite wads, mods, total conversions, etc
>Adventures of Square
>Ancient Aliens
>Back to Saturn X
>DemonSteele
>Going Down
>Guncaster
>Pirate Doom
>Plutonia
>The Ultimate Torment and Torture

>> No.6056482

What launcher do you guys use to manage sourceports and wads?

>> No.6056492

>>6056482
Rawket lawnchair is pretty good.

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>>6056385
>Nova 3 is out
nice

>> No.6056498

>>6056495
Playing it and it's a bit of a rousian roulette. The opening of the third or fourth level is outright evil.

>> No.6056506

>>6056384
Being someone who never had a gaming pc growing up I missed out on quake. About 3 weeks ago someone gave me a copy of RadQuake for dreamcast to play and I absolutely love it. From there I've been playing all 3 games on various different systems (including mobile) and I'm absolutely gutted I missed out on this at the height of its popularity

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Based

>> No.6056598

>>6056482
Usually I don't. I make folders with the port and the wad I want on an individual basis. So mostly Ill put a mod and whatever wads I wanna play with it in a new folder with the sourceport required.

Or, I make a folder with the name of the sourceport if Im just playing vanilla.

But... if Im using PrBoom+ I'll use ZDL3. Because PrBoom+ is jank as fuck.

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>>6056595
MASAKA!!!

>> No.6056787
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Any mods that could cure my seasonal depression?

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CRUDUX CRUO

>> No.6056807
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>>6056787
Reelism. I'm in the same boat as you, friend.

>> No.6056809

>>6056787
>>6056807
REELism is really fucking fun, even without rigging the slots for special jackpots
expansion when Kinsie?

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door stuck

>> No.6056814

>>6056792
based cultist poster

>> No.6056816

>>6056813
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DOOR STUCK!

>> No.6056856

>>6056809
>>6056807
better question is, who'll host the server bro's? I mean, can't have REELism without some co-op.

>> No.6056993

>>6056856
you host it, I'll play it

>> No.6056994

>>6056787
DAKKA's pretty fun, I've been playing that recently.
WWNazis is pretty fun too.

>> No.6057006

>>6056993
can't host, slavic internet.

>> No.6057009

>>6056385
>[11-21] Port of PC version of Powerslave/Exhumed released

Best place to get Powerslave from? I got a copy online AGES ago, but it hard crashes on me most of the time (I think it's a bad copy and not my PC that's the issue). I'm interested in reinstalling it with the new source port now that that's out.

>> No.6057027 [DELETED] 

>>6057006
paшa пипл ap лaйк aфpикa пипл бaт вaйт бaй aкcидeнт

>> No.6057029

>>6057009
gog torrent edition my fren
join the DRM free revolution

>> No.6057035

>>6057027
кpингe тбх

>> No.6057051

>>6056813
>Doomguy's cousins from the south

>> No.6057073

>>6056434
>source mod

>> No.6057080

>>6057027
Not russian bro, Czech. But i agree with you completely.

>> No.6057107

>>6057051
>they all flee when they're given the fake soulsphere recipe and it's made of doomguys

>> No.6057127

Am I the only one who thinks Duke 3D's Derelict is an awesome map?

>> No.6057128

>>6056809
There were Reelism addons but most are lost

>> No.6057131

>>6057080
He's typing english words phonetically with the cyrillic alphabet.

>> No.6057136

>>6057131
i know, i can read Cyrillic, it says "raša pipl ar lajk afrika pipl bat vajt baj aksident"

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Alright boys it's SCREENSHOT SATURDAY. Time to step up and show us what you've been working on, maps, mods, sprites? Let's get this shit started.

>> No.6057143

>>6057136
>>6057035
it's a famous /int/ post from a nippon-anon

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>>6057139
Took me a few tries before I could get the idle frame done half decently, now all I got do is four other hand gestures along with some other angles for the different attacks.
Fucking hands.

>> No.6057180

>>6056384
>Handgun Man

C...cute

>> No.6057185

>>6057107
That's when they find the megasphere in co-op 64.

>> No.6057190

>>6056384
thats that dude from Turbo Graphics 16's mario

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No.

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>>6057195

>> No.6057201

>>6057176
Damn, that looks good. Is there a zdoom link to it so I can watch it when it comes out or have you not gotten around to making it?

>> No.6057203
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>>6057201
Just stick around here, anon. This is for a Combined_Arms update. I'll be adding two sets, one based off Xexyz, the other based off NES Zelda

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Is there a way to play SRB2K with Delta Touch?

>> No.6057236

>>6057232
Unless Delta touch get the engine from doomsday i do not think so

>> No.6057237

>>6057236
Damn shame anon. Would have been great on the go...

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>>6057139
Probably the boringest thing ever, but I replaced the main menu with a new class defined in zscript (using the ZForms library) rather than menudef. It's far from finished obviously.

This will allow me to like, make something that looks like the WON Half life menu. Horizontally aligned buttons even.

>> No.6057264

>>6057232
Suggest it to the delta touch developer!

>> No.6057290

>>6056482
I don't, I just shortcut all that shit.

>> No.6057292

>>6056787
Golden Souls
Square
Alfonzone

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>>6056792

>> No.6057298

>>6056384
Quake but its an RPG similar to Arena and Daggerfall

>> No.6057307

>>6057298
Would sell my pipi for an expansive game like that. And with mod support.

By the way a spiritual successor to daggerfall is being made by some old beth guys.

>> No.6057316

>>6056413
1. No
2. Use the latest unstable version of Aleph One. If you don't have it, look for Aleph One 1.3b3 on google

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>>6057195
Moorhuhn? It's also a retro shooter now, I guess.

>> No.6057331

>>6057298
System Shock 2?

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>>6057195

>> No.6057357

>>6057326
>he doesn't know
oh you lucky soul

>> No.6057418

>>6056385
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=66264&sid=56705334c3293a2ffdce5fbc3b15c1ac&start=30#p1127273
new Deathmatch Simulator version

>> No.6057425

what sourceport does decino use? prboom?

>> No.6057445

What's with the end of the first French meat? It just restarts the last map after you kill the bosses. Playing #2 now, bit the tropical setting of level 1 is jarring

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>>6057295

>> No.6057472 [DELETED] 

Daily reminder ZDoom codebro is now a tranny
Daily reminder Graf is next, it's only fair

>> No.6057475

Why does everyone forget the fact that Doomguy was killed at the end of Episode 1, and was damned to Hell but managed to escape his fate by landing on top of Deimos?
Doesn't that mean if he gets killed in Hell, he'll just respawn?

>> No.6057476 [DELETED] 

>>6057472
why do all the influential community members always turn into mentally ill trannies? The creator of Deus Ex: The recut is now a tranny, Jackathan the dude that fixed and discovered a lot of HL beta stuff is now a tranny, now the ZDoom guy... I don't get it.

>> No.6057478 [DELETED] 

>>6057476
If you cant fuck a girl, turn into one and fuck yourself.

>> No.6057479 [DELETED] 

>>6057478
i guess they are virgin turbo nerds, which is why they were so influential to begin with.

>> No.6057480 [DELETED] 

>>6057479
Nah anon, they are a small segment, not only that its trendy now, being only a fag or bi is so 1995.
Narcissism goes along with virgin turbo nerds.

Who gives a fuck.

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>>6057476
well, it could be them adjusting to their social circles if they hang around these kinds of people in person or online, or it could be all the plastic you unwittingly ingest every day that reduces fertility rates across the board

I'm actually starting to believe in the plastic theory, there are already entire communities in the US that suffer from lead poisoning in their water, why not plastic that is friggin everywhere?
>alex was right about the gay frogs
I shudder to think whats happening right under our noses

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>>6057478

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>>6056384
>Doomguy will always be stuck in Hell fighting demon after demon
>Doomguy will never settle down and life a normal life
Doomguy lives a sad life.

>> No.6057489

>>6057485
Maybe he meets Dante and Virgil and have some fun. They are stuck there as well now.

>> No.6057490

>>6057485
you cant live a sad life if you are angery all the time
plus have you seen him every time he picks up a weapon? he is having a blast down there

>> No.6057491 [DELETED] 

>>6057480
i care because every single time i have seen a creator become a tranny, they suddenly became spoony.

>> No.6057493 [DELETED] 

>>6057476
I have several theories but none of them fit this small sample size
leave it at the old axiom that there's nothing more disgusting than the human animal

>> No.6057494

>>6057485
>Doomguy will never settle down and life a normal life
Well, would you rather have him settling down with a cartoon demon, or him never settling down at all?

>> No.6057498

>>6057481
Alex was right about a lot of stuff, people just like to discredit him because of le memes. He called the Epstein thing 10 years ago.

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>>6057494

>> No.6057503

>>6057498
yeah, but I watched his appearances on rogan and then I wonder if the glow in the dark people didnt fry his brain for knowing too much
Im better off not knowing I guess

anyways, Doom related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5XXhdBnjJk

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>>6057485
he wouldn't be a doomed lad man guy fella space marine if it weren't the case
no matter how much you savescum or however many slaughter maps you 100% single segment the doomed space marine dude is gonna get one bad RNG roll and die

>> No.6057508

>>6057504
Wouldn't he just respawn though? He died at the end of episode 1, and was damned to Hell, but instead landed on Deimos.

>> No.6057513

>>6057498
he's an artist, a performance artist
he likes to fulfill fantasies, your deep paranoid fantasies

>> No.6057515

>>6057503
you see, no one can really say what's insanity and what is not. On a conceptual level, his logic makes sense, in a very broad aspect. You can't take what he's saying at face value, dig deeper into it. "psychic paedophile vampires" now what would that be, well it's simple, children can be essentially robbed of their joy, simply because their childhood experience mold the rest of their lives in a major way. Psychic vampires are than simply people who prey on little children, taking away their joy for their own enjoyment.

>> No.6057517

>>6057513
Hey, as long as he doesn't charge 300 bucks for it.

>> No.6057526

>>6057517
nah he doesn't get all the way up in there, but he's sure hoping you buy his brand of quack medicine or whatever it is he's peddling to put the hairs on your chests

>> No.6057528 [DELETED] 

Hиггepы.

>> No.6057530 [DELETED] 

>>6057528
мecтный пидopaтop yмeeт читaть вoдкa мyнcпик, ocтopoжнo

>> No.6057538

>>6057508
What if every time Doomguy dies, he has to go through E2 all over again

>> No.6057549

>>6057538
The horror...

>> No.6057550

>>6057549
Well, that's better than >>6057502

>> No.6057557

>>6057502
I dont get it, I really dont fucking get it
explain yourselves /co/

>> No.6057559

>>6057508
that was a special use case of some sort of satanic pentamagram portal aka tag 666 damaging floor type deal in technicality
in other words, a plot device

>> No.6057560

>>6057557
Shipfags are the bane of my existence.
Whatever, at least its something to laugh at.

>>6057559
This.

>> No.6057589

>>6057029
Powerslave's not on GOG, is it?

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>>6057139
:)

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>>6057139
Tooltips for menus, because why not.

In other news, feckin' Tim Sweeney found out about Doomreal, but it's all cool apparently, I haven't received a C&D or anything.

>> No.6057623 [DELETED] 

>>6057597
This is your work? Looks beautiful, although possibly overly dark in the last shot.

>> No.6057630

>>6057623
Thanks! It'll obviously look different during gameplay, but I haven't had it tested yet :)

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>>6057485
Well Doom guy has Crash around to keep him company so he will never be sad and alone while being angry all the time

>> No.6057638 [DELETED] 

>>6057597
looks like dookie in the mouth

>> No.6057695

>>6057502
i swear to good, these hazbin doom crossovers are a secret marketing campaign and i know a lot of autistic and odd crossovers

>> No.6057721

>>6057606
How do I play DoomReal with UT weapons? I dont want all UT arsenal, but replace Automags, GES, ASMD, Flak and Rocketlauncher with UT models because I like them more.

>> No.6057815

>>6057721
there's an add-on for playing with stuff from both mods, but I'm afraid there's no "selective" replacements there.

>> No.6057831

>>6057472
You know what's fishy about some people in the Doom community?
The fact that some of those that were mad at SgtMark's edgy suicide joke are following indie devs, which includes a very specific individual that literally drove a mentally ill man to suicide over fake rape accusations.

>> No.6057840

>>6057831
Favela man did nothing wrong

>> No.6057858

>>6057840
Mark is fine, but Juliano du0, Logan MTM, Beta, Fabio, ImpHunter and the rest needs to go fuck themselves.

I remember how they used to scrutinize and make fun of the Duke Nukem community, until eduke took off and good shit started to happen.

>> No.6057875

Anyone here like Serious Sam and Painkiller? I know they technically aren't retro but fuck, you try starting a conversation about them anywhere else.

>> No.6057885

>>6057875
I like them they are okay. They were the fps to numb the pain a little bit during the dark decade of 2005~2015~


Now everybody is playing that boring sleep inducing Halo Reach. I guess we never learn.

>> No.6057897

>>6057875
Serious Sam, yes, its more of a FPS Touhou game
Painkiller has some cool ideas but gets old really quickly and level design is fairly shit as you just follow marker arrow between each arena

>> No.6057904

>>6057897
I like painkiller more than ss myself. It's basic af, but the core combat feels more satisfying to me.

>> No.6057909

>>6057489
Doom crossover with DMC and SMT when?

>> No.6057917 [DELETED] 

>>6057472
Why can't internet fags stop looking at trannies? I can't even wear a skirt with my dong flopping between my knees without people yelling about it like it's the end of the world.

>> No.6057921

>>6057489
>Doomguy
>Pure raging beast of demon slaying that's immortal because if he dies he couldn't slay demons anymore, possibly.
>Dante
>Depressed eater beachboy who can only get his dick hard by killing the demons
oh my god now i want a sitcom where they disagree all the time but grudgingly kill demons together and help each other keep their style meters on AAA constantly with guest star samus because I'll never stop shipping her and doomguy

>> No.6057934 [DELETED] 

>>6057472
Who is ZDoom codebro? I haven't been following the news much lately.

>> No.6057936

>>6057921
you confused Dante with Vergil
Dante is more of wahoo-le-funnay-pizza-maymay who gets serious and fucks shit up when necessary
powerlevels in latest game got off the charts, no idea how brothers would get along with doomguy considering both are half demons and both are constantly fighting

>> No.6057938
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>> No.6057941 [DELETED] 

based tranny janny itt

>> No.6057946

>>6057936
He's probably going off anime Dante, who was pretty much a depressed eater beachboy.

>> No.6057950

When are the cacowards coming out?

>> No.6057964 [DELETED] 

based tranny janny itt

>> No.6057971

>>6057831
dont care

>> No.6057998 [DELETED] 

based tranny janny itt

>> No.6058018

>>6057485
>Doomguy gets in Smash
>he hates it just as much as Hell and just wants to go home

>> No.6058023

that doom sonic game came out today
maybe it's news worthy I dunno

>> No.6058027

>>6057875
I've been playing some Serious Sam lately.
It was pretty fun at first with its incredibly straightforward gameplay but started to feel like a chore after a while.
It feels like the level layout hardly ever has any impact on the combat since most levels just consist of a couple of huge areas that you go through one after another. To keep things interesting despite this the game keeps throwing more and more enemies at you in the most annoying ways.
Maybe I'll finish it some other time but right now I feel pretty burnt out by it.
It doesn't help that the game has just about no art direction and the Egypt theme gets pretty boring after a while.

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>>6058023
The update's real good when it comes to everything they've touched. Unfortunately, about the only thing they didn't touch were the last zone and end boss fights, which, when compared to all the reworked levels, are really disappointing in comparison.

>> No.6058041 [DELETED] 

based tranny janny itt

>> No.6058056 [DELETED] 

based tranny janny itt

>> No.6058064

>>6058034
That's really funny how what used to be the most impressive levels of the game are now boring because the rest of the game is so good.

>> No.6058068

>>6057485
Doomguy is now a beign of pure hate. I bet that he lost a lot of his humanity.
I feel more sad for Ranger tho.

>> No.6058070

>>6058068
I imagine the Doom marine is like a Metal Gear protagonist. He's so used to all the bloodshed that he can't be comfortable in a civilian life anymore. Part of him's always going to wish he were killing something.

>> No.6058072

>>6058064
They cleaned up a lot of the bullshit of the old levels, too, which makes all the bullshit of Egg Rock all the more apparent. I also don't find the new Egg Rock music to be as good.

>> No.6058080

>>6058034
Fuck, the physics are kinda fucked still, its the doom engine after all, but its damn impressive, only that fandom extreme autism can do that.

wish sonic utopia was actually a game.

>> No.6058096

>>6057316

Thank you. I grabbed the beta release, but I'm still not sure how to turn off the replacement textures, there only seems to be options to adjust their quality

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>>6057875
Serious Sam is like mowing the lawn with gatling guns, quite relaxing and enjoyable. Occasional nice tunes too. Skub/10 divisive series.
Painkiller is like a completely braindead Quake 1 but with UT weapons. The tarots can go fuck themselves and so can bonus levels, soundtrack has a couple banging tunes too. Great enemy and environment variety. 7/10 breddy good.

>> No.6058117

>>6058109
sam is divisive? i've seen more people argue about half life than serious sam

>> No.6058120

>>6057316
wait did they actually fix aleph one hold the fuck up

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>>6057946
Anime Dante was Post DMC1 by 2 months
DMC4 and V dante boomer cuhrayzee uncle who eats pizza all time and is happy that he has a family again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iNvb50LgiU

>> No.6058125

>>6058117
most people find it duller than a fully clothed fuck

>> No.6058135

>>6058125
clothed sex is pretty hot

>> No.6058176 [SPOILER] 
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The new Castle Eggman feels like something right out of Hexen, I love it. Spoilered because I was playing a secret character at the time.

>> No.6058185

>>6058135
somebody fuckin gets it

>> No.6058187

>>6058117
Serious Sam is more about big open areas where enemies spawn in and you have to backpedal and sidestep while holding down M1. There's not so much a focus on the level design or enemies being pre-placed in the maps, which puts some people off. And I think this is exacerbated by the game being considered by some to be a "retro FPS throwback" despite not having much in common with those games.

>> No.6058189

>>6058176
How the fuck did you get her? I beat the game and got Fang and Metal, but no Amy.

>> No.6058193

>>6058176
I had to check those hands three times because I was sure it must have been a diaper given the context.

>> No.6058194

>>6058189
you get her by beating frozen hillside
also holy SHIT I hadn't even gotten far enough to know Fang and Metal were playable, that's fucking awesome!

>> No.6058205

>>6058135
Hell yeah, brother.

>>6058187
Speaking of which, I really disagree when people say that Doom 4 plays a lot like Serious Sam, which I don't think it really does.

>> No.6058206 [DELETED] 

HL1 aged like shit. It's worse than almost every other major FPS of the 90s.
Quake, Doom, Duke3d, Blood, Shadow Warrior, Marathon, Unreal, Quake 2, Shogo, all better than HL1.

Arguable: Rise of the Triad, Wolf3D, Spear, Blake Stone (both games), Corridor 7, CyClones, Rebel Moon Rising

>> No.6058225

>>6058205
I don't think I've really seen people compare Nudoom to Serious Sam, and I don't know why anyone would. The arenas in the game have verticality and the Glory Kill gimmick requires the player to get up close to what they're shooting.
I've seen more people compare it to Painkiller, and they may be right, though I've never gotten around to playing it so I wouldn't know.

>> No.6058246

>>6056384
>download shadow warrior
>awful stages
>awful enemy design

game sucks

>> No.6058258

>>6058246
Blame Randy Dickford

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>>6056384

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>>6058260

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>>6058262

>> No.6058270

What are these new screenshots? The map is very cozy looking.

>> No.6058276

>>6058225
It's more because it works with iterations, and should be like the following:

Serious Sam > Painkiller > Doom 2016

In terms of one establishing gameplay rules and the others filtering it, Serious Sam gameplay is messy and doesn't quite balance well, who else could think in absolutely throw the most annoying enemy ever? FUCKING KLEERS!

But then in Painkiller everything is way more balanced, you can literally ride almost the entire game only with the Shotgun because you don't need specific weapons for the hordes, all of them can deal with all enemies, and none of them are enough slow to be discarded (i'm looking at you SS Double Barrel).

Doom 2016 is the last iteration in such case, you basically shoot the fuck outta everyone in the lockdown room and if you need ammo just Chainsaw some bitch, bonus if you do Raven Software's weapon combo on enemies so you can literally disintegrate their health.

>> No.6058279

>>6056476
Hideous Destructor
High Noon Drifter
Arcane Wanderer
Angled Doom
Recon Redux
EPIC
Pirate Doom
Stylish Hell
La Tailor Girl
And a couple others I'm forgetting

>> No.6058286

>>6058246
sorry bro but your opinion is wrong :/

>> No.6058318 [DELETED] 

Why aren't you addressing this>>6058206?

>> No.6058329

>>6058270
Pretty sure they're from the joy of mapping 5

>> No.6058346

Now this is pro half life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN_cYNcVXsY

>> No.6058363

Anyone got wads that are about setting up/watching AI battles not ZDoom Wars? I want to watch some enemies from a mod duke it out.

>> No.6058373

>>6058363
"summon" monsters and "summonfriend" monsters will attack each other
use the freeze console command and place them wherever you want
you can even make binds for it
it's not a proper mod but it's the only thing I have at the moment

>> No.6058402

>>6058318
nice to see you too

>> No.6058405

>>6058402
???

>> No.6058428

>>6057950
10th of December, like every year.

>> No.6058445

>romero E1
Is there a comfier feeling? Is there a way to load both of his WADs without having to exit and restart?

>> No.6058451

>>6058405

There's been a dude with pathological hatred of HL1 haunting this general for a while

>> No.6058452

>>6057195
redpill me on this chicken guy

I am just now getting into the doom scene after playing it casually for 10 years, and I see this chicken dude alot, especially on Doom World

>> No.6058457

>>6057425

that or gzdoom,

>> No.6058470

I hope 2020 will be a great year for wads.

>> No.6058476

>>6058452
Graf Zahl, creator of Graf Zahl Doom, the most zoomer-cucked engine to run Doom available.

>> No.6058478

>>6058452
He's the guy who makes the GZDoom source port, and basically he has a reputation for being a bit of an asshole.

>> No.6058479

>>6058452
creator of arguably the most popular modern doom port, is known for his immense ‘tism when it comes to sourceport design

>> No.6058486

I'm planning on making the official 4th episode for CHEX QUEST

It shall be called 'Thy Chex Consumed' It will be 5 levels, and it will BTFO all the previous ones

Wish me luck, hope you play it

>> No.6058501

>>6057921
I'll allow it but Samus can never be see outside her suit. Even in wildly impractical situations.

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>>6058501
Of course.
The more awkward the better.

>> No.6058537

>>6058452
No.

>> No.6058541

>>6057326
what the fuck do germans have against chickens anyway, are they jewish?
like the 3 german genres seem to be simulators, weird point-n-click adventures and chicken genocide games, with the occasional low budget rpg thrown in

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>>6057921

>> No.6058552

>>6058543
did you draw that?

>> No.6058553

>>6058552
>Unix filename

Take a guess.

>> No.6058558

>>6058451
Pretty sure this autist goes outside this general, as I've seen a bunch of anti-HL1 threads on /vr/.

>> No.6058569

>>6058558
Probably on /v/ as well, wouldn't be surprised when more Black Mesa threads appear whenever it's finished. Which may not be too far since they've got Xen now.

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>>6057139
this room has no doors, and no windows!

>> No.6058586

>>6058558
I've seen him on /v/. It's god damn bonkers the time he has to shitpost about a single topic.

>> No.6058595

>>6058206
>aged
stopped reading right there.

>> No.6058603

is there a mod that adds massive amounts of enemies and weapons for sp besides complex doom clusterfuck?

>> No.6058625

Quake 2 is a good game, prove me wrong

>> No.6058628
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spooky caco badnik

>> No.6058629

>>6057637
He doesn’t return her calls

>> No.6058630

>>6056482
ZDL

>> No.6058635

>>6057485
He lost everything. His rank, his fellow marines, his life one time, his hometown, his friends, his family, and his bunny. He’s gone through some shit.

>> No.6058640

>>6058068
Ranger still clings onto the hope that he can see his wife and kids again. Doomguy has nothing, because he already lost everything to Hell when they killed a large majority of Earth’s population. All in all, I think they’re both very depressing, along with Security Officer from Marathon.

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>>6057489

>> No.6058652

>>6057875
Owned Painkiller for ages but played through it fully recently, it was pretty awful. You go faster than every enemy by far and they have windup on melee attacks so 50%+ of the roster is harmless. The rest can't lead targets and get stuck on every piece of terrain they can find. Any hp sponge bar bosses can be 2 shot by the shotgun combo and you don't even have to be close. The biggest threat is falling damage in one of the boss fights if you don't use the card to be totally immune. Some areas are huge, but it doesn't matter because enemies won't aggro far away and your projectiles cover less than a 1/3 of the area before disappearing anyway. It plays like a low budget Serious Sam where the monsters pose no threat.

Guns are nice though. You only get 5 but they're all basically 2 guns in one. Pinning shit to walls is always good for a laugh.

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>>6058640
>Ranger will never find the slipgate back to his wife and kids

>> No.6058656

>>6058653
>he will never tell his son how proud he is of him

>> No.6058660

Just played through Romero's e1m4b and e1m8b. Surprisingly good.

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>>6058501
Is helmetless but suited Samus acceptable?

>> No.6058667

>>6058660
I think he overused the whole backtracking monster closets thing a bit but overall they were pretty great.

>> No.6058670

>>6058665
B-but the faceless vibe is the best part .

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>>6058670
I mean obviously you wouldn't have her just walking around helmetless for no reason, just like you wouldn't have Doomguy taking off his helmet much at all. It's nice to have it as a surprise though, just like how you only get to see her unmasked at the end scene of any /vr/-era Metroid.

>> No.6058702

>>6058665
what the hell was with this weird helmet-under-helmet shit she had going on in super
did this ever appear again

>> No.6058705

>>6058629
because she never stops talking

>> No.6058727

>>6058702
It's a cap. It keeps sweat, hair and other shit out of your eyes because you can't solve the problem with a helmet on.

>> No.6058750

>>6058445
you could edit the mapinfo lump if you wanted.
change level exits of one ep to lead directly into another instead of the intermission screen

>> No.6058757 [DELETED] 

>>6058176
Yooo where's that Amy from? Unlockable?

>> No.6058763

>>6058757
learn to read bud

>> No.6058780

>>6058187
>>6058225
>>6058276
The thing is, developers themselves compared Serious Sam to Doom at the time.
Except they didn't mean it in the game-design sense.
They meant it in a "not in accordance to modern expectations from FPS" - it was a primitive shooter with rudimentary plot - just go there and shoot a lot of monsters, made at a time where every FPS was expected to have a narrative.
Game magazines misconstrued it and ran it with "oldschool, just like Doom!" taglines.

SS (and Painkiller by extend) really are more of a Smash-TV clone - go into locked arena, kill things untill all things are dead, proceed to next arena, get locked in nuntill everything is dead and so on.

The problem is that it all has gone full circle and now Doom developers when thinking of "oldschool" go back to Painkiller instead of the original.

>> No.6058798

>>6056482
bash

>> No.6058803

>>6056856
Isn't reelism one of those mods that use gzdoom-only features? I seem to remember only being able to play it in gzdoom on LAN right after release, and even over cable it'd occasionally desync.

>> No.6058808

>>6058780
How many active enemies do you think nuDoom could handle at once before it gives out? I remember some claim about not handling that much running AI or something which is why they forced small engagements with spawns. Lockdown arenas were one of it's weaker points. No running around the map activating every demon within a 5 mile radius.

>> No.6058814

>>6058260
>>6058262
>>6058267
What's this? I want to play it.

>> No.6058824

>>6058814
Joy of mapping 5 hub level

>> No.6058850
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i just started scripting with slade and im following this tutorial http://gunlabs.blogspot.com/2011/01/tutorial-how-to-make-your-first-basic.html
but for some reason the gun is not showing up.

>> No.6058856

>>6058850
have you added it to player definition?

>> No.6058858

>>6058850
Is SHTG B a valid frame? Because the gun will not be spawned and/or added to your inventory if the first frame of the Ready state is not valid.

>> No.6058862

>>6058856
no i dont think i added it to player definition, the pic that i used >>6058850 is the whole code i wrote.
>>6058858
i think so, in the tutorial it said he was using the doomII wad but i dont know if its related

>> No.6058863

>>6058850
>>6058862
So did you put this in your DECORATE.txt in the root of your .pk3?

>> No.6058864

>>6058863
yes

>> No.6058868

>>6058862
>>6058858
On that note, Debugging 101: A good way to test your weapon first is to give it via console with "give SuperAutoShotgun" and then typing "use SuperAutoShotgun". You don't need a custom actor definition to select it if you do it via console. If it fails to get selected, do "printinv" and see if it's even in your inventory. If it's not, check Ready state as mentioned.

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>>6058868
ive checked the ready state and it seems fine
but now i have a new problem regarding the pickup message

>> No.6058882

>>6058881
Read it carefully. It says you've used "pickmessage". Should be "pickupmessage".

Regarding weapon not showing up, it's not showing up when you spawn it?

>> No.6058884

>>6058027
Whic serious same have you played? I could never finish the first one but I think the second encounter is much better designed. Also I really, really loved bfe, I think the gameplay is really awesome. There are some hitscan enemies but they are rare and have a long windup time so you can destroy them before they have a chance to hit. (Cyborg soldiers don't count as hitscan as you can easily dodge them)

>> No.6058885

>>6058109
Have you ever played on serious? It's not relaxing at all and it's fucking intense, I think bfe is my favourite single player shooter ever

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>>6058882
ok now its working thanks dude

>> No.6058891

>>6058187
>>Serious Sam is more about big open areas where enemies spawn in and you have to backpedal and sidestep while holding down M1. There's not so much a focus on the level design or enemies being pre-placed in the maps, which puts some people off
This is false. Serious Sam is basically a thinking man shooter. And obviously care has been put in designing the fights. I think tse and bfr are peak FPS old school combat. Maybe you never played on serious

>> No.6058893

>>6058780
The original idea was to capture the frantic feel of dooms most tense combat and build a game around that. For me this "frantic" feel is what ultimately defined the old school experience

>> No.6058895

>>6058889
Oh cool. Glad you got it working. I was gonna say that it probably didn't show up if you spawn it because it has no Spawn state, and the inherited Spawn state's frame is TNT1 A 0, i.e. it's invisible.

>> No.6058902

>>6058895
i have another question whats the best program to make sprite in doom? some recommend gimp but can i use paint.net for making sprites?

>> No.6058909

>>6058902
use whatever you are comfortable with

>> No.6058914

>>6058902
If you don't give a shit about piracy, get Photoshop. If you do give a shit, try Krita. It's basically a free Photoshop clone. I've been forced to use Gimp for a few days and felt like committing neck rope afterwards. Would not recommend, but that's just my personal experience. I've been used to Psd for many years so my opinion is likely biased. Some people use Aseprite. I've heard good stuff about that one. Never used it myself.

What >>6058909 said.

>> No.6058916

>>6058909
>>6058914
thanks. i honestly pirate most of my games anyway so not a problem

>> No.6058920

>>6058909
Paint.net isn't bad, GraphicsGale is free, or you could try Aseprite, though that's like 15 bucks, I swear by it though

>> No.6058926

remember that tool doesnt make the craftsman

>> No.6058938

>>6058914
How to set up photoshop for spriting?
Every tool and effect adds some sort of transitioning transparency or whatnot, resulting in a messy sprite.

A;sp does this Krita support PSD?

>> No.6058948

>>6058938
>How to set up photoshop for spriting?
Use the pencil tool instead of the brush. Selection tools with anti-alias unchecked are also your friend.
Also see this: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=58902

>A;sp does this Krita support PSD?
See https://docs.krita.org/en/general_concepts/file_formats/file_psd.html

>> No.6058967

>>6058948
But is there a way to set up to turn the anti-alias off completely? I remember seeing some WIP videos of the artist using various transformations and deformating effects on sprites, while everything remains crisp and aliased without any smudging or transparency being introduced. They didn't show how they set it up though which is why I ask.

>> No.6058972

>>6058891
>Serious Sam is basically a thinking man shooter
Not him, but I've played through every Serious Sam game, and no.

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>>6058967
When doing transformations, set the interpolation like in pic related. I reckon that's how they did it. I don't know of a specific setup that turns anti-aliasing off completely. Unless you work in Indexed mode, but that's quite limited.

>> No.6058980

>>6058884
Played the majority of the first encounter in the classics revolution version. Haven't checked out anything else yet.

>> No.6058986

>>6058884
BFE added reloading to Serious Sam and that should be some sort of crime. You can see the parts of it that were the pitch for another game like recreating the half-life heli fight with infinite rocket boxes and the generic modern military weapon set up. It also relegated the laser to secrets only for some reason.
It was nice to play though at the time but I'd put it behind FE and SE.

>> No.6058991

>>6056384
Why these new retro games suck ?

Zigurath, ion maiden, dusk, wrath and etc...

>> No.6059000

>>6058991
They're made by people that dont know dick about the genre. Either they're sois that think they can make something amazing with no experience or suits that see a market and dollar signs.

Andrew Hulshult's sums it up nicely: it's just there. It has no definition. Nothing that stands out beyond a basic, 1-note tone that never changes the entire time. No high or low. Just mediocrity the entire way.

Could honestly be forgiven if not for the Jewish price tag on these turds

>> No.6059003

>>6058991
Because you never liked that kind of game to begin with but are too ashamed to admit it or take off the rose tinted glasses.

>> No.6059030

>>6058780
I think with Doom Eternal, the devs really tried to have actual level designs in the game. You can see this from the Qcon 2018 demo, where there were no arenas at all and the levels were more open. They were less linear compared to Doom4 (which is not saying much but a step in the right directions). Now you look at the Qcon 2019 demo, they have taken a step back and now the game has arenas. So my guess is that there will be a mix of open and arena based level design in Doom Eternal. Probably It would be an open set area filled with demons and arenas in alternation.

>> No.6059034

>>6058625
>prove me wrong
No.

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Give me chili-dogs, or I'll destroy all these poor, innocent, non-demonic robots! I'll really do it!

>> No.6059082

>>6058885
TSE is easy on serious, TFE is breddy challeging, BFE is a shitshow that won't even give you double ammo
Never played Serious Sam 2 on serious, I honestly want a next encounter port on PC

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Hi, I'm not a part of doomworld but their Ironman thing sounds fun, do they still do those? Can I get a link to their Ironman threads so I can try the megawads they've already one?

Can we do our own Ironman challenge on /vr/? We choose a wad, try to go through it without dying, when you die you say where. People can upload their runs for proof if need be (video or demo), it would be fun, what do you say?

>> No.6059098

>>6058652
now play battle out of hell expansion

>> No.6059102

>>6058452
don't blame the chicken, blame the end user
I mean PrBoom+ is right there, but no you want smooth doom you want dynamic lighting

>> No.6059106

>>6059102
PrBoom wont let me turn off infinite height

>> No.6059108

>>6059086
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/110500-the-dwironman-league-dies-to-scythe/ is the current one. OP should have links to the old ones, too.

>> No.6059110
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>>6059086
I'm reminded of this when I see that wall of butthurt

>> No.6059116

>>6059106
Eternity allows you to disable infinite height.

>> No.6059119

>>6059116
sell me on Eternity because I rarely see people talking about it

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>>6059106

>> No.6059124

>>6059116
I wish Eternity had the 'secret revealed' message like almost every other source port. Even Retro has it if you put in a DSSECRET WAD.

>> No.6059128

>>6059124
secret revealed message is in vanilla DOSdoom, it just doesn't play any sound

>> No.6059129

>>6059108
Do they not accept GZDoom demos? I don't even know how to record a demo lmao (help pls)

>> No.6059132

>>6059129
>GZDoom demos
>he doesen't know

>> No.6059140

>>6059129
is GZDoom even doom
where's NESfag when you need him

>> No.6059143

>>6056384
what makes quakespasm better than other sourseports?

>> No.6059145

>>6059143
The fact that it's the one I use.

>> No.6059147

>>6059143
being GLquake but not shit
it's not better than other source ports, it's just a solid choice for singleplayer

>> No.6059148

>>6057176
>Tenga onaholes

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>>6059148

>> No.6059156

>>6058902
I use Gimp and it's fine. It's layer system is fuckstupid, but when you get used to it it's all muscle memory. It has a few less layer effects out of the box but there's a lot of plugins available for it.
Photoshop is better, but you have to crack it. Not that it's difficult. I just switched to Gimp because I hate photoshops business practices and near monopoly on the professional market.
Gimp does a few things better than Photoshop. Interface wise it's a bit worse. Overall it's fine.
I've never used paint.net, what's it got going for it?

>> No.6059161

>>6059156
for me its the successor of paint but thats about it. i only use it for that because its better than paint.

>> No.6059164

>>6059140
No.
GZDoom is an engine that supports Doom.

>>6059143
Faithful with no extra bullshit attached.

>> No.6059167

>>6059148
redpill me on tenga onaholes

>> No.6059176

>>6059102
PrBoom+ has its issues too.
I hate the way it looks in OpenGL mode especially since it has no decent way to render specters but I need it to play more demanding maps. I also get awful screen tearing in it but turning on vsync makes the game feel really laggy and you can't cap the fps to anything other than 35.

>> No.6059178

>>6058780
serious sam is closer to doom than most things
for one half the monsters are doom rip offs (the other half are quake rip offs) and for two you need to prioritize who to kill first just like doom

>> No.6059186

>>6059176
sound to me like you're playing PrBoom not PrBoom+, which has uncapped framerate
and GLBoom is the openGL version

>> No.6059191

>>6059176
I, on the other hand, really like how GLBoom renders the game. I prefer it over GZDoom's OpenGL renderer.

>> No.6059195

>>6059178
level design is most important aspect of Doom.
Serious Sam is severely lacking in that regard.

>> No.6059196

>>6059176
Riva Tuner worls with GLBoom+ and can cap it to whatever you want.

On the other note is there any other (preferably open and free) software that can measure and cap FPS of a game?

>> No.6059198

>>6059186
No, I definitely am using PrBoom+ and am aware that the OpenGL version is called GLBoom+.
I also obviously wouldn't have a problem with screen tearing if I didn't uncap the framerate.

>> No.6059201

>>6059195
fair, but if you go by commercial releases only shareware episode and plutonia have great levels

>> No.6059203

>>6056476
Golden Souls 2, even though there comes a point where it's just too hard for my limited skills (some of the bosses are ridiculous)

>> No.6059219

>>6059201
I meant design principles.
In Doom each level is an enclosed location, that you have to explore over the course of the playthrough.
In Doom level progression thanks to Romero's "show the Door first, give key later" ensures that player will revisit old areas to gain access to new areas. Good maps also revitalise visited areas with new enemies and pickups at that point.
In certain ways this is similar to how Metroid progression works, but in smaller scale.
Exploration and learning the level is the key to finishing the levels, enemies are an obstacle, but they are only part of the whole.

In Serious Sam and by extension Painkiller, exploration is never part of the equation, and thus the game is more primitive and less interesting as a result.

>> No.6059228

>>6059219
I like painkiller's ad hoc level design, plainly obvious to the most casual of observers they made the environments 1st then hurriedly made a playable level out of them
it just has so many interesting locations for a polish budgetware shooter
serious sam is not even trying, especially past TFE. But I also like serious sam's gameplay formula, it just has no right being as good as it is for croatian shovelware.

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>>6059167
I wish I didn't know this but the (white) flip hole *zero* is good, avoid the the earlier non-zero models as they're held together by fragile moulded spines which break.
/jp/ has a regular onahole thread because of course they do.

>> No.6059239

One thing I love about Serious Sam is the deterministic nature of its gameplay. I don't have to guess if a kleer is going to hit me for 20 or for 80 damage like a revenant would, I know it's always 20 on a ball, 40 on a leap. I don't have to bank on RNG giving me enough damage on a shotgun to one shot a chaingunner, it's always 7 pellets with 10 damage each.
Would love to see a Doom done like that. Though this would probably require a complete overhaul of the game's balance, and not just slapping average values for every variable.

>> No.6059250

>>6059239
quake is exactly the same way
fiend will always fuck your shit up and will always take 3 rockets to the face

>> No.6059253

>>6059228
But TSE's locations are way more interesting than TFE's, primarily because not everything is fucking sand colored.

>> No.6059327

>>6059086
play through the wad and then record a demo afterwards but say it was your first time play
easy win

>> No.6059356

>>6056476
>High Noon Drifter
>Trailblazer
>Bratwurst
>Lt. Typhon
>Netronian Chaos
>Stylish Hell
>MetaDoom
>Ultra Crispy
>GMOTA
>Lambda
>Colourful Hell
>Vanilla Doom +
>Legion of Bones
>Factotum
>Aracnocide
>Operation Body Count (TC)
>Strange Aeons
>Eviternity
>Hell on Earth Starter Pack
>Epic 2
>DUMP 3

>> No.6059361

>play through megaton edition on normal
>clear every episode
>overall pretty easy
>start shadow warrior redux on normal
>insta-gibbing hitscanners fucking everywhere
>get destroyed by everything
What the fuck.

>> No.6059364

>>6059361

I feel you, both duke and blood, and ion to desu feel smoother controlling the player, for some reason SW feels heavier.

>> No.6059405

So what would be your "must play" list? and does it hold up because I cant honestly recommend Mememto Mori to anyone

>> No.6059406

>>6059361
Watch Civie 11's videos for protips like abusing the smoke bomb mechanics.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjpAzVTa-X3RZf3YbV2ZflB5Z60osMIhe

>> No.6059440

>>6059361
and the game never get better...

>> No.6059457

>>6058452
Watch this to get the jist of him.
https://youtu.be/VnjLZow4zK0

>> No.6059467

>>6058991
old good new bad >:(

>> No.6059469

>>6056476
>Project Brutality
>Hideous Destructor
>Compendium (is that cheating?)
>DoomRLArsenal
>Mechatron
>Floppy Disk of Midis
>Dooᗡ

>> No.6059503

>>6058727
Oh, I hadn't thought of that. That makes sense.

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>>6059059
SONIC NO

>> No.6059507

Hey hey people, question.

So I'm trying to make a fully prepared, portable install of GZDoom and Hideous Destructor that, when extracted and you run the GZDoom exe, it loads Hideous Destructor, Ugly As Sin, and a level pack or something.

How do I go about doing this? I believe I use GZDoom_Portable.ini and [AutoLoad] correct?

>> No.6059509

>>6059406
>that /vr/ roast in #2
I love civvie.

>> No.6059517
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>>6056384
Ok so 2 questions:
1. How can I make GZDoom mouselook go also up and down like in Zandrorum?
2. PLEASE LET ME DISABLE MOUSE MOVING IM TIRED OF HAVING DOOMGUY MOVING FORWARD WHEN I MOVE MY MOUSE BY MISTAKE 1 CM FORWARD.

>> No.6059518

>>6059405
Memento Mori can be a bit jank at times but fuck me I love that mansion level so much. The music is baller and it actually looks like a real house for the most part while being fun to fight in.

>> No.6059520

>>6059517
Go to mouse options and turn off Lookspring and enable Always Mouselook
there's plenty of other settings in there, mess around a bit if you want

>> No.6059523

Does Arcane Dimensions have its own music or should I just plain add a mix of my own?

>> No.6059526

>>6056476
I love the old shit so my favorite mods are UAC Military Nightmare 2, MassMouth 1 and 2, and Zen Dynamics Black.

>> No.6059527

>>6059526
EVERY POSSE AND CREW OUT THERE

>> No.6059529

>>6059527
hell yeah nigga

ancient zdoom mods are a lost art

>> No.6059534
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not to defend le chicken man but I'd just like to propose this

>> No.6059546

Thoughts on Black Mesa?

>> No.6059558

>>6059534
Oh, really? That's funny.

>> No.6059559 [DELETED] 

>>6059509
he's a nigger who bleeps out the word "fag"
not /ourguy/ in the slightest

>> No.6059562 [DELETED] 

>>6059559
That makes him unironically based

>> No.6059567

>>6059559
>tfw we are cancer mouse
>>6059523
It has no custom music.
I recommend using the trent reznor album "ghosts". He created the original soundtrack, and its a free instrumental album with many fitting Quake-like tracks.

>> No.6059572 [DELETED] 

>>6059559
We know civvie, but soon youtube will be fucked, and everyone needs to move a better website for gaming videos.
which someone needs to do, and host outside California, because mixer is shit and vimeo is garbage to find content...

>> No.6059575 [DELETED] 

>>6059534
Graf is fucked.
Randi is now a tranny, rachel can't be trusted and most of the community is brainwashed by leftie politics.

god help us next year...

>> No.6059579 [DELETED] 

>>6059575
Graf's a tard, who cares if Randi is trans, and Rachel isn't malicious. Stop seething about something as irrelevant as personal politics. What they do in their personal lives doesn't matter. Randi's identity is valid and you can deal with it nerd.

>> No.6059587 [DELETED] 

>>6059579
>Rachel isn't malicious
Haha no. I can agree about Graf and Randi but this is blatantly untrue and if you look at her history it's pretty obvious where shit's going.
>personal politics
They cease to be personal when their whole little circlejerk won't shut the fuck up about them.
>identity is valid
Nice nutcase non-sequitor dogwhistle. Now shut the fuck up and talk about Doom.

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>>6059567
I was thinking that then. I have that recut pack someone made for Quake.
Interesting new stuff. Don't love all of it, but I like all the detail.

>> No.6059592 [DELETED] 

>>6059587
>shut the fuck up and talk about doom
>cries about leftists
you can leave the thread now tourist

>> No.6059594

Is there ANY way for me to get colored blood in prboom? Crispy doom has it but cripsy is a little too vanilla for me

>> No.6059595

>>6059592
Shut the fuck up and talk about Doom.

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if you niggers dont shut the fuck up I'll give you the chancla

>> No.6059597

>>6059594
I don't think so, no. Your best bet might be looking for something vanilla compatible, because I don't think prboom can actually support that.

>> No.6059601 [DELETED] 

>>6059596
I'm actually surprised there's no chancla joke weapons in any of the mods I've played, considering how many hispanic Doomers there are.

>> No.6059602 [DELETED] 

GZdoom's forums banning election gremlins sounds based desu

>>6059596
>>6059601
Same. Throwing flip flops is really fun like they're ninja stars or some shit. I'm surprised there aren't more wads with shit like that in em.

>> No.6059605 [DELETED] 

>>6059596
based and havaianaspilled

>> No.6059606 [DELETED] 

>>6059572
bitchute lol

>>6059562
I can understand him not wanting to say fag for fear his pegging partner will never take off his chastity belt, but why bleep it out in other media

>> No.6059607 [DELETED] 

>>6059601
>>6059602
I guess we are too traumatized for that shit
my asscheeks hurt just by looking at it

>> No.6059609

>>6059606
Because it's his channel and if he objects to content that's filled with slurs then that's his choice. Still pretty based.

>> No.6059612 [DELETED] 

>>6059607
See I'm white (Irish) so I got the belt instead and I can tell you if I was able to draw I'd absolutely have a weapon where Doomguy takes off his belt and teaches some demons how to behave. You beanbros need to step it up.

>> No.6059613 [DELETED] 

>>6059596
im imune to chineladas, hence why people like mark is still kicking!
in fact i had my ass kicked with wires thanks to my mother for i being an crazy asshole when i was a kid.

>>6059602
it will be a one sided shitshow

>>6059606
because youtube is an asshole, and lately even good shit like TimeGhost Channel is getting fucked by YT for making World war videos.

Which begs me to wonder, where are the WW2 Doom mods besides wolfenstein stuff?

>> No.6059615 [DELETED] 

>>6059612
>irish
>white
Good meme.

>> No.6059616

>>6059612
That actually sounds rad. Why don't we have more improvised weapon doom mods? Belt buckle whip, flipflops, switches, briefcases, etc.

>> No.6059617 [DELETED] 

>>6059609
then stop railing on Randy Bitchford if you're gonna be a mollycoddling cuck

>>6059613
he's already been demonetised for saying fuck every alternate word

>> No.6059618

>>6059615
Don't make me take off my belt anon.

>> No.6059620 [DELETED] 

>>6059596
t. melbournite

>> No.6059621 [DELETED] 

>>6059617
>Youtuber bleeps out slurs in his video of a game
>CEO destroys an IP, shuts down fan projects that might compete with his bastardized version of a game from development hell, and refuses to let the pre-release versions come out
yeah nah these don't add up

>> No.6059623 [DELETED] 

>>6059606
because youtube will demonetize you if you say naughty words
it will also demonetize you for being kid friendly

what the fuck is up with these advertisers

>>6059612
is that the reason why you guys drink

>> No.6059624

>>6059616
Actually, you could probably just make a weapon set made up entirely of the improvised beating implements used by parents before the world made disciplining your kids illegal. Imagine the asshurt, metaphorically and literally.

>> No.6059629

>>6059624
No one would get mad about it because that's not controversial lol

>> No.6059631

>>6059623
Nah I don't drink often, but I CAN drink and do it occasionally to prove to my angloshit coworkers that my liver is genetically superior to them.
>>6059629
Never underestimate the over-sensitivity of retards on the internet.

>> No.6059632 [DELETED] 

>>6059624
so basically
>a belt
>a chancla
>an open palm

what else did you get anons, we are fishing for local discipline devices

>> No.6059635 [DELETED] 

>>6059631
See it's said a lot that people are over sensitive but the only time it's ever demonstrated is when, ironically, people are complaining about over sensitivity. No one is going to give a shit about a doom wad about hitting demons with flipflops.

>> No.6059636

>>6059632
>ruler
>wet cloths of various kinds
>broom handle
>spoon
>jumper cables

>> No.6059637 [DELETED] 

>>6059635
>the only time it's ever demonstrated is when, ironically, people are complaining about over sensitivity
I'm envious of your blissful ignorance.

>> No.6059642 [DELETED] 

>>6059621
precisely my point, Bitchford is an acceptable target because he's a rich white male and also a fuckwit, but homosexual faggots are a protected species
either everyone is free game to be made fun of or nobody is, otherwise you're a hypocrite

>>6059623
I use adblocker software ever since it was invented (5 minutes into the internet's existance) so I don't know who's monetized or not
oretty sure violent vidjagaems VJOs with copious amount of swearing are automatically demonitized, which is why civvie the fag enabler has a patreon

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>>6059636
>that last one

did you...did you grow up in guantanamo or something

>> No.6059646 [DELETED] 

>>6059645
Did you only get the internet last year or something?

>> No.6059647 [DELETED] 

>>6059642
Yeah nah his race is irrelevant entirely

>> No.6059648

>>6059621
It was proven that the Anti Ion Fury shitshow on /v/ and other websites, including steam with the green skeleton bastard, was made by Randy and his friends at resetera.

even the guy who started all of this is a regular poster there and on twitter with another nickname.
When the censoring was proven fake and a woman picked all of the clues about this organized raid and made a thread about it on /v/ and on twitter, the raid suddenly stopped and some of the false reviews were deleted.

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>>6059648
>it was proven
>posts zero proof

>> No.6059654 [DELETED] 

>>6059647
I have a suspicion if Randy was a half injun half barbados asexual mestizo Civvie wouldn't be making fun of him either, but without magical reality altering powers there's no way to confirm or deny it

>> No.6059658 [DELETED] 

>>6059602
>GZdoom's forums banning election gremlins sounds based desu

From what ive seen the way these things usually go is
>somebody starts or invites a political discussion from the accepted liberal/PC point of view
>someone replies to them with a differing viewpoint
>they get singled-out and banned while the original poster is left untouched
And then the mods claim theyre actually unbiased and just banning "muh ebil trolls".

>> No.6059660 [DELETED] 

>>6059654
Your suspicion is wrong.

>> No.6059671 [DELETED] 

>>6059658
In fact you can easily find examples of this phenomenon within this very "community". Just look at forum discussions of that trans community mapping project. They said Romero was receiving all sorts of abuse & threats for supporting trans rights, and some guy simply asked for any evidence of that happening and ended up banned.

>> No.6059673 [DELETED] 

>>6059660
and you can't read that man's mind

>> No.6059674 [DELETED] 

>>6059559
I bet he can't even say the n-word like a real man
/vr/ will defend Civvie to the death but he'll become the next Gman soon enough.

>> No.6059702 [DELETED] 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/out-of-all-great-fps-out-there-half-life-has-by-far-the-worst-gunplay.157802/
Unreal and Quake 2 were better.

>> No.6059708 [DELETED] 

>>6059702
>linking to resetera
Damn dude, you're fucking everywhere.

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>>6059708
his autism knows no platform

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>> No.6059757

>>6059751
well since we are at it
what is the best flamethrower implemented in Doom?

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>>6059591
What the fuck do I do here? I think I've done just about everything I can think of, I've killed all the monsters, I even found a secret with a cool axe, and one with some health (guarded by a Vore, and I think Vore babies).

Is there a switch I've missed here or something? Or did a script break?

>> No.6059795

>>6059790
i remember getting stuck/confused at this part too... iirc theres a pathway in a dark corner of that outdoors area, kind of hard to notice

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>>6059795
Fucking hell. These maps are all ridiculously gorgeous to look at, which I appreciate a lot (and they're long and densely populated), but they leave me wanting for a flashlight at times.

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Does there exist a mod where I can have a cacodemon buddy following me?

>> No.6059820
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>>6059814
Need a mod that lets you pick up baby cacos as powerups that automatically shoot at nearby enemies.

>> No.6059826

>>6059790
the first time around I somehow managed not to trigger the last encounter at all.

>>6059757
DAKKA's chaingun altfire. It's gorgeous to look at, works magnificently against crowds, and leaves behind flames that stick to both surfaces and enemies and periodically do burning damage.

>> No.6059829

>>6059820
Haha that would be amazing. But I'd love any kind of "familiar" mod with a monster sticking around, would be awesome. I guess they'd need to be invincible so it doesn't turn into an escort mission though.

>> No.6059835

>>6059820
Lt Typhon lets you do that.

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Once you get back on the track of progression again the map gets a lot more fun.

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The bossfight/gauntlet at the end of this map is pretty intense, and really fun, realized I was grinning like a fool throughout the fight.
Slightly slaughterish, but the good kind, you have lots of room to move, and there's enough supplies to take you through.

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>>6059887
STOP!

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>>6059887
delete this

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>>6059887

>> No.6059947

>>6059887
Eh, worst horse.
Who cares.

>> No.6059990

>>6058665
That would be used for a season finale or at the end of the sitcom.
They would oftenly use a joke with stuff covering her face from the camera every time she really needs to take her helmet off.
And both Dante and Doomguy would sometimes would be shocked by it

>> No.6060003

>>6059082
SS2 on Serious/Mental at the end levels is just impossible solo or with two.
There are way too many enemies and too little ammo

>> No.6060056

>>6059814
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=65281

>> No.6060060

>>6060003
so they tell me
TFE is also more designed for co-op on serious, but it's doable solo if you know the one specific way to do it

>> No.6060061

>>6059887
i dont get it
whats the jar for

but since its there already, someone make a jarate weapon

>> No.6060064

>>6059559
Gotta make those adsense shekels. "fag" is grounds for getting demonetized.

>> No.6060074

>>6060056
Man that video is pure cringe

>> No.6060092
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Firetop Mountain was amazing. I'm late to the party, obviously, but I am (mostly) enjoying Arcane Dimensions, some maps are more fun than others.

>> No.6060115

>>6060061
>whats the jar for
must be nice being new on 4chan

>> No.6060119

>>6060061
For leaving on radiators.

>> No.6060129
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>imagine dying this much on lightly broiled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeDg5mzt5DQ

>> No.6060140
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6060140

Are there any more big and pretty projects like Arcane Dimensions for Quake?

>> No.6060157

>>6060140
There have been more maps made for it than just what's included in the mod.
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/?filtered=arcane

>> No.6060168 [DELETED] 

Remember when half life got BTFO?
http://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwarosu.org%2Fvr%2Fthread%2FS5574995%23p5580609

>> No.6060179

>>6060157
Like reject maps, or sequels to maps featured in AD?

>> No.6060184

>>6060179
AD is like its own mod platform thingy now, like quoth

>> No.6060194

What's the best program to play Doom 1/2 online? I mostly want to play stuff like vanilla deathmatch and such, but I'll take anything. Also does anyone play or is it mostly dead?

>> No.6060276

>>6060194
Zandronum I think
but I'm a newfag so I might be wrong

>> No.6060304
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>>6060140
If the emphasis is on 'big', go for Tronyn's maps. Gonna have to adjust after AD though. Other options: Rubicon Rumble Pack, Warp Spasm.

With 'pretty': Sock (AD lead) has released some standalone maps as well. The non-Sock maps in AD are mostly expanded versions of previously released maps, so just go through the jams I guess.

>> No.6060434
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6060434

i guess, he still working on the lost doom 64 enemies.
i don't know where's this is going desu

>> No.6060481

>>6059517
look at the mouse sliders and think

>> No.6060552

>>6058373
>"summon" monsters and "summonfriend" monsters will attack each other

It seems as though normal monsters won't proactively attack monsters with the +friendly tag, they'll only start fighting once they've been hit already. Does anyone know of a way to make it so that monsters will proactively attack entities that are friendly to the player?

>> No.6060585 [DELETED] 

>does anybody want to role play with me? I'll be Half Life

"no quake stop it, please don't fuck me in the ass with your huge cock." quake replies "you're going to enjoy my quakeChad cock, just relax and take it" Half Life responds "noooo..pleassseee..it's too big"...HL proceeds to get fucked by quake because HL is "baby's first fps."

>> No.6060614
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6060614

I'm setting up a Zandronum/Doomseeker server for an event next weekend. Is there a way to load Doom 1/Plutonia/TNT levels using Doom2 as an iwad so I don't need to keep restarting the server every time we switch mapsets?

>> No.6060672

>>6060614
wadsmoosh
if this is an online event, then throw the file up somewhere for the duration of the event, then delete it so there's no chance of getting a nasty email out of nowhere

>> No.6060743

>>6060552
>Does anyone know of a way to make it so that monsters will proactively attack entities that are friendly to the player?
This is because of performance reasons. If monsters were to proactively do that, they'd have to do a blockmap search and iterate through everything in its vicinity every tick, and that'd be laggy as hell.

One way you can do it in a mod, is to to have the friendly monster spawning/turning function of your weapon or item or whatever save all them into an array. Then you can write a custom sight check function for all your monster replacements that iterates through this array which only contains friendly monsters (but not those summoned with the summonfriend command, since it wouldn't put them into the array)

>> No.6060780

>>6060552
Make friendlies emit a roar before engaging the target, that will "explode" in wide radius with 0 (or 1 if that doesen't work) damage. Enemies below target change threshold will retarget such friendly when they engage.

>> No.6060867

>>6057485
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDqIArN4GOs
That ain't shit my nigger.

>> No.6060870
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>>6060867
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeDIFCGqhU0

>> No.6060878

>>6057485
>>6060867
>>6060870
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQjv1K487z8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6622-113240

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgMLZePgwUo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PErllI-RVRs
Doom guy is just a whiny bitch.

>> No.6060879

>>6060878
>Doom guy is just a whiny bitch.
He's a man of action, and he didn't get stuck on a boat for nearly a decade.

>> No.6060883 [DELETED] 
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6060883

>Comparing doomguy to guts and goblinslayer

>> No.6060889
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6060889

>2019
>need high-end GPU with raytracing to play up-to-date version of Quake 2
>need expensive monitor with adaptive sync to play Shadow Warrior remaster without choppiness and screen tearing
>all the good games made this year use old ass engines/sourceports/imitate retro look
How the fuck did I end up in this retrofuturistic timeline.

>> No.6060890

>>6060889
>good games
>retro look

you need to go back

>> No.6060892

>>6060889
Eh, I'd argue a lot of the lighting in the up-to-date Quake 2 kills the atmosphere it was originally going for.

>> No.6060965

>>6060892
I'd argue nobody cares about the atnosphere Quake 2 was originally going for because that game is SHIT just like your waifu
but it was one of the earliest real time pathtracing games because its engine is uniquely suited to it even on hardware comparable to 780 ti/1st gen Titan and it's nice to have a nifty tech demo, no RTX brand card required

>> No.6060994

>>6056384
What wad is it

>> No.6061005

>>6060304
That's stupidly beautiful. Is there a list somewhere I can reference?

>> No.6061035
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>>6061005
A list of what?
Generally you just go to quaddicted.com/reviews and filter by author or rating.
AD readme lists all levels and their authors.
No comprehensive lists of recommendations that I'm aware of. And Quake isn't a land of megawads anyway.

>> No.6061074

>>6059891
>>6059897
Just finished this the other day. How am I supposed to beat this map without savescumming?

>> No.6061127
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>>6056384

>> No.6061129
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6061129

>>6061127

>> No.6061130
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>>6061129

>> No.6061132
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>>6056384

>> No.6061136
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>>6056384

>> No.6061148
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6061148

Keegan, when Battlemage Samus?

>> No.6061157

>>6058803
i'm fairly certain i ran across a Reelism server on Doomseeker a lifetime ago.

>> No.6061175

>>6061148
bro I would give ANYTHING to be ridley in that picture

>> No.6061201

>>6061148
Never. But Alchemist Samson after this combined_arms update.
I use the term Alchemist really loosely here, looking at his planned arsenal he's more a gadget boy that happens to include alchemy flasks too

>> No.6061221
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6061221

>>6061201
is is POV going to be lower since he is a gobol

>> No.6061227

Go to moddb and bring something back
I bet one of you fuckers is responsible for this comment

Sure vote me down you little ****s its purely coincidence that it releases right at MOTY.

As if it was something bad to win MOTY wtf is wrong with you all? Maybe play something else than DOOM for once, it seems to take its toll on your brain.

I voted for this mod ffs. xD

>> No.6061228
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6061228

>>6061221
Yes. Though for the sake of being able to play shit I might have to raise Blaz's POV a little when I get around to adding Samson because if I went any shorter than what Blaz is right now players might have genuine problems beating maps.

>> No.6061248

>>6061221
>cute buff kobold bf never ever

>> No.6061261
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6061261

>>6061248
I feel you but this is not the place brother
>tfw no buff bun gf

>> No.6061292

>>6058583
Love the look Anon, can you share more?

>> No.6061346

>>6061127
What is?

>> No.6061348

>>6061292
It's the expansion I'm making for REKKR. So you can play most of it already.

>> No.6061360

this talk about dmc makes me wonder if there's an enemy mod based off the games or something with inspiration from it like a colorfull hell boss with vergil's moveset
another difference between dmc and doom is one series probably works better with arena focused combat

>> No.6061378

>>6061348
>REKKR
Nice dude!

>> No.6061448

>>6061360
both DMC and DooM work with flowing levels with set encounters AND arena combat
try playing DMC1 and see what its about

>> No.6061516

>>6061127
>>6061129
>>6061130
golden souls is just charming

>> No.6061558

>>6060743
>>6060780

Would A_AlertMonsters with a range of 0 and AMF_TARGETEMITTER at the start of a friendly's see state work?

>> No.6061587

>>6061221
>>6061228
> partying up with a kobold
why would you ever team up with those lizard rat goblins
they are literally cunty cannonfodder minions of the villain
seal all the holes and collapse their stupid fucking tunnels to bury them alive
> playing as a kobold
why would you, but even more so

>> No.6061603
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6061603

>>6061587
All the more reason why I want him as a protag. He's a little bastard and it'll make for good mischief.

>> No.6061604

>>6061587
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if someone makes DOOM WADs, Duke 3D or Blood mod where Koboldsboth the Canine and reptile varients and treants are playable.

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6061664

>>6056384

>> No.6061683

>>6060434
what if there was a wolfenstein 64?

>> No.6061685

>>6058096
Preferences > Environments > Plugins > toggle off HD textures.

I'm late but there you go

>> No.6061690

>>6061664
Iunno who made this but a few of those frames could do with cleaning up as he starts falling over.
Animation itself is smooth though.

>> No.6061723

>>6061221
i would

>> No.6061773

>>6058176
Hey what game is this?

>> No.6061780

>>6061558
Wow, I had no idea that was a thing. That's extremely interesting.

>> No.6061828

I miss the intermission podcasts
Is it me or does Kinsie sound like ReviewBrah?

>> No.6061837

>>6056384
>download blood
>great stage design, weapons, enemies and etc...
>but i'm a tired of shooting people

Games with a short campaign ?

>> No.6061846

>>6058640
Marathon security officer had it the worst imo
>Battleroids are just soldier corpses that are revived with tech and turned into mindless killing machines
>gets used by a gaggle of AIs that dont care for him and just use him as a one man army
>gets jjarro tech shoved into him so he can fight an eldritch horror
>this tech lets him survive the ENTIRE universe being reset countless times while trying and failing to kill the literal embodiement of chaos that he helped revive when he kicked the pfhors ass too hard.
>goes fucking rampant in the middle of this and fucking dies an unsung hero of all the universe.

>> No.6061854
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6061854

Just started playing Return to Na Pali. This place looks very comfy.

>> No.6061872

>>6056385
Doom Delta update
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=52262&start=570#p1127423

>> No.6061920

>>6058991
Hedon is actually good
GZDoom wins the source port showdown once again

>> No.6061934
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>>6061854
Lots of places on Na Pali planet are comfy.
Shame they are populated with nail-spitting tentacles, fish people, big ass flies, flameball vomiting balloons, rock throwing dinosaur motherfuckers and musclenaked space predators.

>> No.6061974

I feel like a total fucking retard but this is my first time attempting to run an older wad - Batman Doom through Crispy Doom as the port. I've got a .deh file and a .wad file. I've tried loading the .deh file first and vice versa through my launcher (Rocket Launcher) but I keep ending up with weird weapon behavior and sprites shifting between each other. What am I doing wrong?

>> No.6062079

>>6061837
>tired of shooting people
>short campaign
Quake. The only 'people' are the occasional possessed or reanimated dead, otherwise it's a lot of weird monsters.

>> No.6062086

thoughts on the unused doom tracks?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sTMR3BrZ1o

>> No.6062103

>>6061974
I'd guess the Dehacked file isn't being loaded properly. Try adding it manually with the -deh parameter.

>> No.6062104

>>6062086
shit to meh.

>> No.6062108

Romero E2, E3, and E4 when? Romero remaking E1 minus the two he already did when?
I desperately want a modern Doom with current source port tech

>> No.6062109
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6062109

>>6061934
>musclenaked space predators.

>> No.6062116

>>6062103
>Try adding it manually with the -deh parameter.

I um...how?

>> No.6062124

>>6061129
I have no clue what the KNEES is referencing, besides Jaws of course.

>> No.6062126

>>6056384
i never noticed how defined doomguy's ass cheeks are until now

>> No.6062128
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>>6062116
I don't use Rocket Launcher, but if it's a launcher worth a damn, then it ought to have a field for additional command line parameters. Put -deh with the path to the .deh file there. This is how I'd do it in command line, but the path obviously has to be corrected to however you have your Doom files set up.

>> No.6062136

>>6062128
The huge spaces and ellipses in that image are throwing me off. I tried putting a link to the .deh file itself in the Additional Command Line Arguements field and then adding -deh after that and it had no effect.

>> No.6062138

>>6062128
If this fails, create a short cut to Crispy Doom and edit the target path to say "crispydoom.exe" -iwad doom2.wad -file batman.wad -deh batman.deh

>> No.6062141

>>6062128
Wait, do I need to have some sort of separate line for Crispy Doom itself?

I have no clue how people ever figured this shit out in the old days, it's complex as fuck.

>> No.6062142

>>6062108
you want old id to team up and make another classic doom game as a sequel to 2?

>> No.6062146

>>6062104
what are the best tracks?

>> No.6062147

>>6062142
That'd be awesome. Or just have Romero make an entire set of modern wads for the whole series, so you can play from Revised E1M1 to the end of Sigil

>> No.6062148

>>6062138
Now I'm getting "IWAD file doom2.wad not found!"

>> No.6062150

>>6056384
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YazcpASjxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDvsUE-HUrE

>> No.6062152

>>6062148
Well shit dude.
Do you have doom2.wad in the same folder?

>> No.6062154

>>6061603
i'll punt that cunt of a runt to another continent

>> No.6062157
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>>6062152

>> No.6062176

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79G1JagFDKc

>> No.6062192

>>6062176
70 NAKED DOOMGUYS

>> No.6062202

>>6062192
IN THE SHOWERS AT IMP RANCH

>> No.6062226

Just played Hdoom for the first time

What a wacky mod! I don't think ill play it again...

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>>6062226

>> No.6062231
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>>6061974
At the bottom (for Additional Command Line Arguments) put this line:
-merge [folder path to batman.wad] -deh [folder path to batman.deh]

>> No.6062235

>>6062229
this.

Who needs to fuck demon anime pussi not me defiantly not me hahaha!

>> No.6062242
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6062242

Fucking hell, the architecture is so cool in every goddamn level. It's like Crucified Dreams if it was made as a single player .wad

>> No.6062243

Whenever i think of Doom's history with modding and its source code, i wonder if there's this idea that fan content for videogames is better when it's something playable because it's the most important aspect of the medium.
Like nothing wrong with fanart for example but i wonder if someone would see more value in a fan game, mod or even a rom hack.
And Doom's case also comes from longivety and preservation too and not just the quality of a lot of mods and wads.

>> No.6062245
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The gameplay is fucking fun, too, so it's style AND substance!

>> No.6062249
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6062249

>>6062243
It's all relative. Compare some terrywad garbage to a nice Kurashiki level illustration, and then compare just whatever shitscribble you can find on DeviantArt to Going Down.
Either can be terrible, or great.

I think that being able to easily produce your own content for a game will give it stronger longevity, particularly if you can actually do more than just levels or shallow visual mods, like putting in your own resources, maybe even writing your own entities.
It gives fans a particularly suitable medium to express their love and ideas around the original.

>> No.6062256

Anybody else enjoy Chex Quest? Might Make a Wad

>> No.6062259
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>>6062249
Doom has a long history with usermade content, and it's interesting how gradually it has grown, from just hex editing a little map which can't even be played because there wasn't a way to compile it yet, to shareware third party level editors, to DeHacked and DeuSF, Doom 2, Final Doom, and then you eventually have the source code release, which is such an incredibly valuable asset to any modding community.

It started tiny, and it's just kept snowballing. Quake and Half-Life had similar growths as well, and even had new IPs and commercial games grow directly out of their modding scenes.
I really just love moddable 90s shooters, they're just so fucktastic.

>> No.6062270
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Added the ability to toggle whether mouselook or free cursor is the default. Holding the "user2" button inverts whatever you set the cvar to temporarily.

>> No.6062275

>>6062202
GONNA RIP AND TEAR SOME DEMON ASS

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>>6062150

>> No.6062290

>>6055690
>>6056191
That reminds, i wonder what would it be if the original id would have been the ones to think of the new Doom enemies and whether or not they could have implement them in one way or another
>Cybermancs either have a gas cloud to visualise their attack or even an extra acid floor sector popping up
>Dreadknights in a similar vain above but with it being a melee AoE attack or maybe big electric sparks around him
>Prowler would secretly have some invisible actor that just serves to mark his next teleportation spot to make him less likely to break maps
>Hell razers try to visualize their beams with some "incomplete" laser and solutions for feedback
>Possessed engineers are just walking barrels
>Mancubi flamethrower is just a limited range rapid fire attack but it could work if D4V did it
>Arachnos on ceilings and grenades may use whatever Raven/Strife pulled off
>Summoners would just use IOS's thing
>Carcass would "draw" some short linedef wall that in case it isn't red transparent, it's like a red grid-like wall with holes and a specific texture
>DHunter is just a super Cyberdemon meets Revenant on steroids

>> No.6062301

>>6062290
I also wonder if they would even think of jump pads.
As an alternative to occasional elevators and adding jumping.

>> No.6062302
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6062302

>>6062124
avatar/mascot of a japanese female doomer. she did all the art for JPCP.

>> No.6062304

>>6062124
What that other Anon said, and more specifically she has fetish for them.

>> No.6062306

>>6062157
I dunno man.

>> No.6062332
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6062332

>>6062157
Crispy should be in the same folder as the wads if you want that shortcut to work.

If you want this to work with Rocket Launcher though, I found that pic related works.

Rocket Launcher doesn't know what to do with deh files, so you're supposed to explicitly include it using that command. In my setup, batman.deh is in the same folder as crispy doom, that's important for this setup to work.
If you want it in a different folder, you'll have to figure out a relative path or absolute path to the deh file.

>> No.6062335
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>> No.6062362
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6062362

man the giant city gore nest in doom eternal looks sick

>> No.6062368

>>6060061
b o i l e d i n c u m

>> No.6062370
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6062370

Fucking Christ. I love this map, but also it's such a fucking project to actually play it. I didn't even find all the secrets, or all the enemies, in spite of getting all the tomes.

>> No.6062379

>>6061773
Sonic Robo Blast 2; it's a Sonic fangame that is, bizarrely enough, a Doom engine mod, and so it comes up in these threads now and then.

>> No.6062393

Playing Hideous, is there a trick to using the Thunderbuster? I can't seem to kill anything past like 50-100 yards. I know the beam is connecting, but it doesn't seem to be doing any damage

>> No.6062398

>>6062370
what map?

>> No.6062404
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6062404

>>6062398
Foggy Bogbottom

It's part of Arcane Dimensions, so far it's the biggest and longest map. Maps in the set are generally big and elaborate, some even have little "quests" in them, almost.
If you ever thought Quake felt a bit short, and you wondered how it would look like if you made it ridiculously detailed and pretty, this is it so far.

>> No.6062406
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>> No.6062408

>>6062404
I get a complicated feeling that Wrath can technically play these maps thanks to being modified Darkplaces, if the full thing ever releases someone can basically just adapt a tweaked AD for it.

>> No.6062409

>>6062393
IIRC hold it down until it conducts properly. Watch out though, recoil + sensitive trigger can make it a bit dangerous.

>> No.6062410
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>>6062393
While using the primary fire, don't ever focus the beam directly on monsters, unless it's a revenant or an arachnotron. Instead focus the beam on walls or the ground near things you want to die.
Make sure to crouch or brace your weapon on walls for the much needed stability, if you're recently coming down from using your medikit and you're trembling too badly, I don't recommend using the primary fire. Carry another weapon with you, the Thunderbuster is fun mode but it demands a lot of respect.

>> No.6062413

>>6062408
Not an awful idea I suppose, these are definitely maps people oughta play.

>> No.6062501

>>6056384
Who the fuck told me that equinox is good?

>> No.6062504
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>>6056384

>> No.6062521

>>6062504
:I

>> No.6062525

>>6062270
Really cool, does this mod have a zdoom page?---

>> No.6062528

>>6056482
The command line, like a real man.
doom2 -file wads\poofter.wad
How hard is that?

>> No.6062534

>>6062504
Peak coomer brain

>> No.6062536

>>6062504
remind me of that manga with revolver headed protagonist. Anyone know its name

>> No.6062538

https://www.doomworld.com/cacowards/2019/
cacowards are here

>> No.6062542

>>6062538
At least the Romero cockmongering is in the runner-up category.

>> No.6062551

>>6056384
https://www.doomworld.com/25years/the-roots-of-doom-mapping/
We also got this extensive look at Doom mapping history this year.

>> No.6062554

>>6058750
What a lot of fucking around to do a simple thing.

>>6058445
Just load both wads from the command line.

>> No.6062560
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>"combat puzzle"

>> No.6062561
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>>6062538
>Typhon wins a gameplay Cacoward

>> No.6062565

>>6062538
>Lt. Typhon
fuck yeah!

>> No.6062568

>>6062538
>Romero didn't get a Cacoward
Hacks

>> No.6062572

>>6062538
>Eviternity
what?
i swear this shit is old as fuck

>> No.6062581

I think we should update the doom quickstart pack. Add in all the stuff released since then.
Also, anyone up to make a doom guide v10?

>> No.6062596

>>6062572
it was released last december 10

>> No.6062603

>>6062568
He already got one a year prior. He doesn't need one every time he makes some new Doom content. If anything Jimmy deserved it more for that dope soundtrack.
Sigil is p good tho.

>> No.6062610

>>6062603
I'm surprised Jimmy hadn't got one sooner. Dude's like the Doom community's MVP.

>> No.6062638

Do any sourceports have pistol start as a togglable option?

>> No.6062646

>>6062638
PrBoom+ and Crispy Doom have a 'reset level' button (Home by default in PrBoom+, bindable in Crispy Doom.)
Doom Retro has a -pistolstart parameter
GZDoom has this:
https://github.com/mmaulwurff/idclever-starter

>> No.6062648

is there any map with a comfy night ambience? I want to shoot demons under the moonlight as cool breeze blows through the forest.

>> No.6062674

Why does the retro fps community dislike half life so much?

>> No.6062676

>>6062674
>Community
It's one incredibly obnoxious autist.

>> No.6062678

>>6062610
Adventures of Square got one. If that counts.

>> No.6062679

>>6062674
If you see someone shitting on a game most like then odds are it's not a community thing but outspoken autists. Same with defending certain games if most hate it.

>> No.6062683

>>6062245
sauce on that pic pls

>> No.6062684

>>6062674
It's just autism.

>> No.6062692

>>6062610
Oh. He's gotten 3 (4 now).
Still deserved.

>> No.6062731

>>6062674
real talk: any FPS with turrets is shit

>> No.6062745
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>>6062731
[rockets ur path]

>> No.6062763 [DELETED] 

>>6062538
Fuck niggers, kikes and trannies

>> No.6062798

>>6062731
the engineer is an important inclusion to the game
and arachnotrons are just turrets that walk a little

>> No.6062805

>>6062731

>Hating on Dark Forces

>> No.6062812

>>6056384
BlooM has been some good shit, so far. Of course, I love high concept planar stuff and crossovers done right.

>> No.6062814

>>6062648
That one weeb map in Deus Vult 2. map03 or something around there.

>> No.6062834
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What settings with ZMovement replicate stock Doom movement? I can't get it to feel right.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the MaxGroundSpeed should be 16.666 right?
The friction should be 0.09375, so that's a setting of 1.875.
But then there's
>Acceleration = RotateVector((cmd.forwardmove, -cmd.sidemove), Angle);
>Acceleration = 3.33f * MaxGroundSpeed * SafeUnit2(Acceleration) * MoveFactor * GroundSpeedMulti(False);
What is the 3.33 for?

>> No.6062836

Is the GZ3DOOM VR port really Oculus-only?

>> No.6062846

>>6062812
send your feedback to the devs like a good little beta tester

>> No.6062847 [DELETED] 

>>6062538
Why does every text sound like the writer is up their own ass?

>> No.6062851 [DELETED] 

>>6062847
whalecum to doomworld sonny

>> No.6062864
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>> No.6062865
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Waited until French Meat 2 was better tested / patched to play. Definitely worth the wait. The levels are large, well-designed, and nice to look at, with some fitting custom textures thrown in to enhance the Caribbean setting. The difficulty feels in line with Blood episode 1, fairly tough but not overly frustrating.

>> No.6062870

>>6062864
the screenshot's of sigil, and yet it looks like it was ripped right out of a classic geocities page
weird

>> No.6062875

>>6062501
someone with extremely good taste.

>> No.6062896
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>>6056385
La tailor girl beta #3:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&start=405#p1127571

>> No.6062939

>>6062572
Cacowards aren't really as strict to their years, due to them being released on the 10th of December. Anything released on the 10th of December onwards will always be eligible for next years cacowards.
They also allow leeway for things released within around a month before the cacowards to be eligible for the next cacowards, as its very unlikely the cacoward committee had a chance to play them in time.

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>>6062896
it said to picture a demoness so i did that. god i'm so tired i need sleep and more comfy doom time

>> No.6062960

>>6062538
As much as I loved it, I agree with Sigil getting runner up. It was a perfectly solid doom 1 mapset, and one I'd be willing to replay. But it definitely isn't as impressive as the community output.

>> No.6062965

>>6062551
Interesting read.

>> No.6062973

>>6062525
Yes, the page is thread is "Doomshock v2" but I don't update it too often since the mod is not released yet.

>> No.6062982 [DELETED] 

>>6062847
It does seem like the writeups have gotten a lot longer this year.

>> No.6062989 [DELETED] 

>>6062982
I was told to do between 400 to 500 words each.

>> No.6062993

>>6062538
I wonder if 2020 will be a huge year for wads. IIRC, TNT2 is pretty close to completion.

>> No.6063005 [DELETED] 

>>6062989
I only know you from doomreal, tripfriend
trannies get a free pass for cacowad judges or something?

>> No.6063008

>>6062865
>The difficulty feels in line with Blood episode 1, fairly tough but not overly frustrating.
hope that's the case and not just your subjective impression, because French Meat 1 was tough as nails with a side of "you want ammo? you want dynamite? well fuck you, [insert monty python french taunts here]"

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> trannies trannies trannies lel
why the fuck is this shitposting in this thread particular
and why hasnt it stopped
and why did mods let a raid go unchecked

>> No.6063030 [DELETED] 

>>6063023
I don't see a raid.

>> No.6063036 [DELETED] 

>>6063023
Marisa Kirisame self identifies as a " Computer witch"
I don't approve of his life choices but I don't bear him (female) any ill will

>> No.6063049 [DELETED] 

>>6063036
>>6063023
It's just some fag who's assblasted that mods delete his drama mongering. Report and ignore.

>> No.6063051 [DELETED] 

>>6063030
its been a slow burn, but it clearly started as such, when suddenly the same shit started popping up constantly

>> No.6063052 [DELETED] 

>>6063051
I don't see it. I see some minor asspain but no outright shitflinging.

>> No.6063081
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>>6062683
ad_necrokeep

>> No.6063107

>>6062864
is this justinrpg

>> No.6063114

>>6062939
how old is gmota?
because i thought it was at least 5 years at the time
a lot of mods take a while to shape up to be in a "complete" state too

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>>6063114
4 years in 2018, it's gonna be 6 fucking years old in January.

>> No.6063124

>>6063115
metabros, metadoom still has a chance!!1!
on a bright side, d4v winning means more people will witness the spider mastermind spriteset from drpyspy

>> No.6063145

>>6063114
I think gameplay mods are treated as eligible so long as a major update was within the timeframe.

>> No.6063151 [DELETED] 

Was doomreal tripfag /vr/ janitor all along?

>> No.6063153 [DELETED] 

>>6063151
No.

>> No.6063160

>>6062538
>no term
boooooooo

>> No.6063173

>>6063115
why are Kustam's eyes blushing?

>> No.6063242
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6063242

anyone heard about this AI dungeon thing?
http://www.aidungeon.io/


It's basically a AI generated text adventure, you start with a prompt and input commands from there, you can even set you own custom prompt with the 4th option.
The AI only remembers the prompt and the last 8 interactions, so you need to be descriptive and remind it whats going on from time to time, seems to work best in second person.
Avoid asking it definitive question, seems to work better if you leave it open to make stuff up on the fly.
check these to get some pointers:
>https://pastebin.com/Hfsi3CuA
Collection of custom prompts made by anons:
>https://pastebin.com/KD4yN2Gc
Here's a Doom prompt:
You are Flynn Taggart. You are a UAC marine stationed on Phobos, one of the two moons of Mars. Scientists have accidentally opened a portal to hell and demons have started to overrun the base. You are out on patrol when you hear the screams coming from the intercom so you decide to come back to the base only to find

>> No.6063249
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>>6063242
Here's an example of what I got:

You are Flynn Taggart. You are a UAC space marine stationed on Phobos, one of
the two moons of Mars. Scientists have accidentally opened a portal to hell
and demons have started to overrun the base. You are out on patrol when you
hear the screams coming from the intercom so you decide to come back to the
base only to find it completely overrun by demons!

What do you do
> You ready your standard issue rifle and begin firing on the demons. Your marine training has turned you into an efficient and brutal killing machine. The demons covering the entrance begin to retreat as you enter into the base where you encounter a


A demon attempting to ambush you with a flaming sword.

And a demon wielding a chainsword which is even more deadly than the flaming
sword.

You kill all three demons easily and continue to fight your way through the rest
of the demons until you reach the command center
> You reload your standard issue rifle and continue to fire on the demons overruning the command center, when you run out of ammo you take the chainsword from one of your fallen enemies and begin hacking away at the rest of the demons, as the last demon falls you stop for a moment and begin looking for a new weapon until you find


A large energy sword that looks like it could cut through anything.
The shotgun which fires buckshot bullets.
And finally the flamethrower which releases a stream of flames

at this point the thing gave up and disconnected me

>> No.6063259

>>6063173
because he's looking at you, king :3

>> No.6063290

>>6062896
>get the electro armor
>get the upgrade
>????????
i'm spooked

>> No.6063296
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>>6063249
Here's another one that actually went somewhere
but it disconnected me again
you might have better luck than me

https://pastebin.com/DQxhw13x

>> No.6063347

Any expectations for Bethesdas Doom stream?

>> No.6063351

>>6063347
how much more transparent of a shill can you be

>> No.6063361

>>6063347
lmaoing @ ur life

>> No.6063369

>>6063347
doom 64 and maybe more info on the backstory

>> No.6063381

I keep thinking about marine doom and wonder if the us army would love hideous destructor

>> No.6063401

>>6063347
Autism from the one dude on here.

>> No.6063420

>sigil not getting a cacoward

The hate on Romero is reaching new levels.

>> No.6063442

happy 26th anniversary niggers

>> No.6063478

>>6057875
painkiller is pretty blah aside from the theme
I understand why people like SS, but I can't get into it at all

>> No.6063493

>>6062150

This look pretty cool, but nam as the setting?
I dont know could be something more special.

>> No.6063497

How do I git gud with keyboard controls?

>> No.6063532

>>6063497
rebind to wasd for moving and numpad for looking num-0 for firing and surrounding buttons for weapon switching

>> No.6063557

>>6063497
you sniff glue and make dial up modem noises as best you can
advanced users can try huffing gasoline and sleeping on the road

>> No.6063562

>>6063493
>but nam as the setting?
Yeah, its' really competing with the 2 good vietnam games that were ever made.

>> No.6063569

>>6063562
and a boatloaded fuckton of shit games

>> No.6063578

>>6063562
I've had enough of Tripwire's shit so I haven't played the obvious one
the other one is the original battlefield vietnam I'm assuming

>> No.6063580

>>6063562
It's just personal taste. I love the vietnam era ( all History honestly), actually read quite recently big comprehensive books on the mess.

But I mean, sure we have tons of sci fi, but I feel the engine does not fit.
I would love to control vehicles in the doom engine in a different setting.

Then again he has balls to go for a jungle set.

>> No.6063609

>>6062538
I'm surprised Naku-Naru won one. It didn't seem all that popular

>> No.6063625

>>6063609
and it's not even that good

>> No.6063641

>>6063124
Does Kinsie even care?

>> No.6063692

Holy shit. Scythe 2 starts so strong then quickly becomes absolutely garbage in the entire second half

>> No.6063736

Sigil is being added to the console ports.

>> No.6063742

>>6063736
Also Final Doom.

>> No.6063752

>>6063736
Call me back when they add the standalone remakes romero made a while ago

>> No.6063754

Is there a WAD/mod that adds PSX Doom' coloreed lighting to the original maps, but does not alter geometry/textures?

>> No.6063756

>>6063752
Okay. They also mentioned adding NRFTL.

>> No.6063758
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>weapon on the center option

>> No.6063759

>>6063008
Well I would say Blood episode 1 is actually like that as well, ammo is in fairly short supply until a few levels in.

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>>6063758

>> No.6063765

>>6063692
Once you get the hang of maps 22 (iirc) onwards, the hordes don't prove to be much of a problem at all.

also, they're showing skins at the Bethesda stream and the QC Doomguy skins are in.

>> No.6063767

>>6063764
i hate you

>> No.6063776

>>6063765
Just beat level 23 which starts with a cyber demon and some revenants right off the start. Wasn't having any fun just holding down left mouse with bfg. The beginning of the wad was so strong up until the last 10 or so levels

>> No.6063787
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What's the best way to play Shadow Warrior? It's the only Build trilogy game I haven't played yet.

>> No.6063791

>>6063764
I unironically like that. Angled weapons that are positioned realistically like that is my fetish

>> No.6063793

>>6063759
nah my dude you start FR-meat pitchforking zombies and if you get the secret dynamite it's still not enought o blow up all the cultists in the first level
you might as well restart the level if RNGesus doesn't smile on you and the first cultist you blow up doesn't drop a shotgun

monolith maps can be frustrating and dickish but they always make sure you got the tools for the job, if not ample dynamite then a box of flares in a secret somewhere
E1M2 can be a bit ammo toight but nowhere near as bad as E1M2 of french meat

>> No.6063796

>>6063793
Lol sounds like you missed the shotgun sitting on the beginning beach area.

>> No.6063798

>>6063796
I'm talking about the first french meat level pack, you start in the graveyard

>> No.6063829

>>6063764
This is cursed

>> No.6063838

Well its happening
Bethesda is going to fuck with the doom community

>> No.6063839

>>6063765
And hud customization.
And centered weapons.

>> No.6063841

>>6063838
What's happening?

>> No.6063842

>>6063736
>>6063742
>>6063756
Ok. I’m still not getting them.

>> No.6063846

>>6063838
they don't own doom, they just own d44m

>> No.6063853

>>6063764
What wad?

>> No.6063857

>>6063853
That's the Sewers map added in one of the console Doom ports, the old D3 Xbox version I believe.

>> No.6063861

>>6063857
I meant what wad are the angled weapons from

>> No.6063864

>>6063861
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=66242

>> No.6063867

>>6063787
Classic Redux

>> No.6063870

>>6063864
> screenshots include fist

centered fist
fucking when

>> No.6063898
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>>6063870

>> No.6063904

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B78fhpawURM

>> No.6063997

>>6063736
1: Source
2: Are they gonna fix aspect ratio, let you toggle off audio interpolation, and decensor the fucking Wolfenstein levels already?

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>>6063838

>> No.6064007

>>6063997
>1: Source
From the anniversary stream today. They're adding a free content downloader where you can play Sigil and Final Doom, even being able to play FD on Doom 1. They're also contemplating adding in No Rest For The Living as they mentioned it specifically.

>> No.6064018

>>6063736
Weird. Also who cares when wadsmoosh exists

>> No.6064019

>>6064018
this

>> No.6064027

>>6064007
Alright, more content isn't bad, but I still think there's things they need to fix on the new ports.
>censorship
>aspect ratio fix
>proper Nightmare! difficulty
>sound interpolation toggle (it may be original intended behavior, but it broke in early versions and most people prefer to play with it off)
>missing NIN logo in E4M1 (c'mon, Trent's an outspoken fan, he did Quake's sound and music and everything)

Anyone else have any suggestions on fixes needed for this port?

>> No.6064045

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aVVsxDMGbM

have a gander at this bundle of retardation speaking about how stretching 4:3 games to 16:9 is the right thing to do
bethesda did nothing wrong

>> No.6064065

>>6064045
Reminds me of those people with widescreen TV's who stretch 4:3 movies to 16:9 because oh no, black bars are just an unacceptable horror.

>> No.6064090

>>6064045
>Playing in 4:3 in 2019 OmegaLUL

>> No.6064110

>>6064065
I absolutely hate that.

>> No.6064116

>>6064027
I heard there's going to be an aspect ratio option.

>> No.6064185

>>6064045
Stretching your picture to fit is the fucking worst, good god.

>> No.6064193

>>6064065
People like that deserve to be slapped with floppy dildos.

>> No.6064246

>>6062834
>replicating vanilla movement in Zmovement

wat.

may I ask why you don't just play vanilla?

>> No.6064359

>>6064007
It also looks like they've replaced the ugly pill logo on medkits and stimpacks with a green cross, looks much better imo.

>> No.6064371

>>6064359
Why didn't they do that years ago? That's obviously a better solution.
Black crosses on medkits/stimpaks, then white crosses on berserk packs, would also be an adequate solution.

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>>6064359

>> No.6064404

>>6064359
The D64 ones are blue now.

>> No.6064429

>>6064027
TNT's map 31 being possibly unbeatable due to missing yellow key

>> No.6064435

>>6064018
That shit with the broken skies?

>> No.6064443

https://twitter.com/romero/status/1204370540930195456?s=20

>> No.6064445

i can see some good intention with trying to bring classic doom wads (and nothing else to a certain degree like zdoom based mods) to consoles but i swear, id should try actually getting in touch with the fans that know this stuff
also, how is it going to work?
specific selections of some wads or an attempt at compatibility for any wad?
what about the use of textures from other games or music or different copyrighted stuff?
what about maps that may be too much for some consoles to handle, like most overdetailed maps or slaughter heavy ones?
one of the appeals of doom modding is breaking limits when possible until you reach a road block and take a while to beat it

>> No.6064447

>>6064371
It was probably a kneejerk reaction to Red Cross flipping out, until people realized "wait, they only trademarked RED crosses" with 2016 and other titles.

>> No.6064449

>>6064443
lemme guess, boomer shampoo model is still struggling for relevancy

>> No.6064450

>>6064445
It looks to be that they're basically curating what to add and the additions will effectively "turn" the game into that wad for the duration, akin to reloading the port with a new PWAD in store. But that's just my guess seeing as D1 owners will be able to play the Final Doom / D2 related wads.

>> No.6064453

What surprises me about Sigil and the official port thing is that i expected it to not include the artwork from Lovell or Jimmy's music.

>> No.6064454

>>6064445
what's the point seeing how a raspberry pi could potentially run any boom compatible map
don't answer that, more lazy cash grabs

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>>6064454
The ports may not be perfect, but they'll have the most content of all the ports at this rate and still be better than most of the console ports period. You got the game on PC and the source ports set up? You're golden, you're not the market they're aiming for, cool your tits. You're a casual ass consumer or some parent that played the game 26 years ago? Hey, easy to pick up and play, cheap as shit, bada bing bada boom and you'll get more free bang for your buck.

>> No.6064467

>>6064461
>>6064454
regardless of how it ends up, i hope it doesn't affect the traditional community and scene

>> No.6064469

>>6063160
He's busy playing Zelda and making turbo mega woman.
Also just living life. It's hard to get anything done if you're spreading yourself too thin. Gotta know when to dip and focus on what you wanna do.

>> No.6064470
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>>6064045
fukken savd

>> No.6064476 [DELETED] 

>>6064461
bethesda apologists must fucking hang desu

>> No.6064543

so whats the gist of all the announcements? just that they are adding more wads to the crappy switch port?

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>>6062528
Not that hard, I just don't like it.

I'm allowed preferences.

>> No.6064561

>>6063347
I skimmed through it. Super boring, no new information on Doom Eternal and we only got tiny amounts of footage of stuff that was already revealed or mentioned. Literal waste of my time.

>> No.6064575

>>6064543
The pc/PS4/Xbox/switch ports are getting 60fps, aspect ratio options and add on support.

They confirmed plutonia, tnt and sigil but hinted that the official release will have lots more available and they'll continue to add more .wads through their curation system. And said they will continue to update those versions.

>> No.6064576

>>6064561
They showed that the disgusting HUD can be hugely customised which was great. And centered weapons

>> No.6064579

>>6064575
>pc
you mean the current steam release?

>> No.6064580

>>6064579
Whatever the recent one is with the unity wrapper

>> No.6064638

>>6064575
>and they'll continue to add more .wads through their curation system.
What more are there? No Rest For The Living is about the one thing left that they own. I guess maybe they could try to retool the old Playstation sets, lord knows there's some people who'd want it.
Doom 64 has its own distinct port.

Are they just gonna like, add famous pwads or something as free downloads? That would be pretty cool, but I can imagine there's some rights issues with that, many contain copyrighted content, and some authors aren't available to ask for consent.

Like say they add Alien Vendetta as a free optional download, that would be fucking cool, but doesn't it have some Duke Nukem .midis in it, among other things? And how will they secure permission from the authors in that case? The guy who made Misri Halek is outright dead, so that's either a seance or contacting his estate.
Maybe they could add DTWID and D2TWID, those are basically all stock resources, and I think all the guys involved could probably still be contacted.

I'm probably overthinking it, but like I struggle to imagine what's next.

>And said they will continue to update those versions
If true, that would be great. I don't particularly like the idea of releasing a game broken and then fixing it way later, but if it ultimately does turn out good, I guess it'll still be worth something in the end.

>> No.6064639

>>6064454
If they actually fix it up and solve its problems, and maybe reduce the price, it'd be a pretty good package for normies to just pick up and play and then have a big pile of Doom content readily available.

>> No.6064663

>>6064445
I'm genuinely surprised they aren't paid.

>> No.6064671

>>6064445
>what about maps that may be too much for some consoles to handle, like most overdetailed maps or slaughter heavy ones?
That's an issue for sure. They should almost start over and use Boom as a base.

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What's your favorite map(s)?

>> No.6064714

>>6064708
E2M2, of course.

>> No.6064720

>>6064708
Hot opinion, but I really like the Chasm.

>> No.6064725

>>6064638
>DTWID and D2TWID,
They use some dehacked. Whether or not their port supports that I dunno.

>> No.6064732

>>6064638
They super briefly mentioned a curator system that would check for compatability and other things before it gets added to the add on section (Assuming copyright would be a main factor obviously)

Wouldn't be surprised if this thing launched with like 100+ popular wads when it's live. Or maybe that's being ambitious. But they said "we think you'll be surprised at the deluge of content available"

>> No.6064740

>>6064725
So does Sigil.

>> No.6064749

>>6064638
>I don't particularly like the idea of releasing a game broken and then fixing it way later, but if it ultimately does turn out good, I guess it'll still be worth something in the end.
I think community maps and the like is going to be a sort of apology for releasing this port in such a shitty state.

>> No.6064754

>>6064638
Along with the DTWIDs, I think BTSX could potentially be acceptable. While it does use custom resources, all of it was specifically made for BTSX. No third-party copyrighted stuff involved.

>> No.6064771

>>6064725
Probably just for level names though.

>> No.6064842

New thread when?

>> No.6064852

>>6064842
nah, i'm fine

>> No.6064857

New thread

>>6064854
>>6064854
>>6064854

>> No.6064957

>>6064740
Oh yeah.
>>6064771
D2TWID uses a fair bit of dehacked for it's secret levels. Not sure about DTWID

>> No.6065042

>>6064708
Plutonia MAP32

>> No.6065050

>>6064957
A lot of classic wads have custom enemies and sometimes weapons too

>> No.6065216

>>6064720
The Chasm doesn't deserve the hate it gets.

>> No.6065308

cough!

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