/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.605470]

Without a doubt, the greatest rpg in existence:

- A large row of characters, each with his own personality
- One of the best town ever
- A great sense of adventure, visit the Amn, the Underdark, an underwater town of fish-people
- Tons and tons of content

[Anonymous No.605486]

babby's first rpg.

[Anonymous No.605491]

Without a doubt you are completely wrong and should play more RPGs before posting shit like this.

[Anonymous No.605523]

>>605486
Its funny how people get so romantic about their first RPG. I fucking love RPGs of any genre.

My first RPG was Zelda 2 on the NES. The game was huge and frustrating to me. My first experience sucked. That game broke me. Killed my self esteem as a young gamer. Lucky for me that Dragon Warrior and Final Fantasy were soon acquired.

[Anonymous No.605534]

>>605470
>the greatest rpg in existence
You've posted the wrong pic OP.

[Anonymous No.605561]

>>605486

That's not Oblivion/F3/DA/ME

[Anonymous No.605570]

>>605534
>navigating towns

That game needs a minimap.

[Anonymous No.605627]

>>605570
Dude, it has a minimap. Even moreso, you can click on shit in it to travel there instantly.

[Anonymous No.605635]

>game has a nice cast of characters
>do the multiplayer save trick to create a full party of characters made by me

Every time.

[Anonymous No.605663]

>>605635
If you want to play with your own characters, IWD2 is a much better game for that.

[Anonymous No.605683]

>>605486
>>605491

I wasn't aware BG2 was frowned upon here. I love BG1 and BG2 (first one more than the second), PS:T and kinda liked the Icewind Dales although by then I was getting a bit tired of those kind of games.

What are the RPGs that are loved here then?

[Anonymous No.605684]

>>605635
>create all female party
>grow to dislike the ones with the ugly portraits
>don't know how to import my own portraits

[Anonymous No.605686]

This Moredhel witch frown at the fact that you consider that, and not Betrayal at krondor, the best crpg ever.

[Anonymous No.605691]

>>605683
BG2 isn't frowned upon, it's just not considered "Without a doubt, the greatest rpg in existence" by most.

[Anonymous No.605693]

>>605470
>Without a doubt, the most overrated rpg in existence
fixed

[Anonymous No.605716]

>>605693
Pretty sure that would be Chrono Trigger.

[Anonymous No.605719]

>>605683
BG is okay, but it's about as much a cliche to pick as Chrono Trigger for JRPGs, especially since there are so many better CRPGs to choose from. Babby's first pre-2000 CRPG really.

[Anonymous No.605723]

>>605683
From what I've seen, Ultima IV - VII are pretty popular here as well as the Wizardry series, Betrayal at Krondor, World of Xeen maybe, JA2 very much if you count that.
Amber saga gets mentioned surprisingly often as well, and obviously PS:T, Fallout, etc.

>>605534
very good choice

[Anonymous No.605729]

>>605663
or ToEE. based ToEE.

[Anonymous No.605753]

>>605719
what a shitty list
also,
>using the term wrpg

[Anonymous No.605771]

but seriously, BG2 is really, really good.
I've never seen an RPG that captures its own narrative premise so well and lets you still have a full customizable main character. it has chapters but still enables the sense of being open world and encourages you to find your own quests and its own exploration wherever you go. it's a great, great game with good voice acting and beautiful soundtrack and a storyline that isn't complete dogshit like most other RPGs, especially some JRPGs.

[Anonymous No.605795]

>>605771
>a storyline that isn't complete dogshit
It pretty much is.
On paper BG2's story isn't that special. It's David Warner's voice acting that sells Irenicus imo.

[Anonymous No.605813]

I wanted to get into more WRPGs after really liking planescape torment so I tried arcanum and I just couldn't get into it. Any games that can tickle me the way planescape did?

[Anonymous No.605837]

>>605795
sure it's the generic "beat the evil mastermind" kind of plot at the very core.
but the plot twists make it great and there is so much more to it. being a godchild and all the sense of wonder that comes with it and Irenicus' story isn't really what I'd call generic either. gives the whole thing depth. but to establish something else than what is core is really difficult for most RPGs anyway. maybe it always needs that part so your motivation for adventuring is established. kinda hard without it.

[Anonymous No.605843]

>>605684
>>don't know how to import my own portraits

You just get them and put them in your portraits directory.

[Anonymous No.605847]

>>605813
NWN2 MotB or play ToEE (but don't if you're only in for the story because then you might get dissappointed)

[Anonymous No.605851]

>>605813
You want similar in terms of story quality or gameplay?

[Anonymous No.605853]

>>605813
KotoR2. it's also very planescapish by what I mean it's exactly what you can expect from C. Avellone.

[Anonymous No.605858]

>>605719
This is one of the worst RPG tier lists I've seen. Clearly made by a dumbass hipster.

[Anonymous No.605882]

>>605813
You'll have better luck looking for point and click Adventure games with that style.
PS:T was really a very P&Cish RPG. There are a few others but I really think you'll find better results going for straight story-centered point and clicks.

What didn't you like about Arcanum by the way?
If it was the combat that's normal and should be made easy through any number of ways. (like picking the harm spell at the beginning)

[Anonymous No.605885]

>>605686
betrayal at krondor is so fucking cool. man, getting kicked out of inns has never been so fun.
well, at least not in anything that's not Mystical Ninja.

[Anonymous No.605924]

>>605847
I remember playing ToEE ages ago actually. I think I remember beating it at some point but my memory is a bit foggy about it. I'll check out Neverwinter Nights 2 MoTB though might be fun only ever tried the original and got bored a quarter of the way in.

>>605851
Story quality. I've heard that there's not many games that rank up to it though.

>>605853
I've already beat it once but I honestly don't remember anything other then Kreia's characters so it might be worth another run through.

>>605882
What kind of point and clicks? I've only ever played the LucasArts classics like Sam and Max and Monkey Island so I'm not familiar with the more obscure ones.

As for Arcanum I'm not sure I played it a while back so my memory is kinda foggy on it but I remember just not really knowing what to do and getting lost on the map. I wanted to go something weird so I think I went for a wise talking smartie man troll because I thought I would be able to talk myself out of most situations.

[Anonymous No.605928]

>>605885
pretty much although their beards make them look like fucking idiots.

really reminds me of this movie.

[Anonymous No.605939]

>>605928
why does /vr/ never talk about Krondor though?
doesn't it have everything?

[Anonymous No.605982]

>>605924
>What kind of point and clicks?
The Longest Journey, Grim Fandango, Blade Runner, Broken Sword (original, not director's cut!), Sherlock Holmes and the Case of the Rose Tattoo and The Last Express to name a few.
There's a lot more to be recommended there but those are a good start.
There are a few RPGs that are good as well but they're not really in the same style. Betrayal at Krondor as mentioned ITT for instance. There's also a few RPGs where the dialogue is good, or gives you a lot of choice, as with Fallout and Darklands.

>because I thought I would be able to talk myself out of most situations.
You can in many, though not all. (annoyingly enough not the first encounter either) The Orcs have penalties on that account as well iirc.
With enough Charisma you can have a lot of followers who fight for you though.

[Anonymous No.605998]

>>605924
Play MOTB. Not the main NWN2 campaign, that one sucks, just the expansion.

[Anonymous No.606035]

>>605719
>Trying too hard.
Try: Good but overrated.

[Anonymous No.606041]

>>605924
>What kind of point and clicks?
New ones: Daedalic Entertainment's Dark Eye: Chains of Satinav and Deponia games. The Journey Down.
Old ones: Gabriel Knight, Tex Murphy 3-5, Beneath a Steel Sky, Discworld Noir.

[Anonymous No.606057]

>>606035
Those games aren't overrated, everybody is well aware of their flaws. It's just really hard to find something of similar caliber to fill out the same tier you put them into.

[Anonymous No.606067]

Sure is babby in here. Anyone who knows anything about RPGs plays dnd on an original PLATO mainframe. But you guys probably haven't even heard of it.

[Anonymous No.606090]

>>606067
>DnD
>good

There are good settings, but the rules are utter shit for PC games.

[Anonymous No.606101]

>>606090
He's talking about the early RPG.
What's funny is that 3.5E and similar rules makes for some great PC combat (TOEE for instance, shit encounter design aside) while it's a pain in the ass on the tabletop and vice versa for 2E and older.

[Anonymous No.606108]

>>606041
Dark Eye is so bad. Journey Down is pretty amazing though

[Anonymous No.606112]

>>606101
Computer RPG*

[Anonymous No.606126]

>>606108
Eh I enjoyed Satinav aside from the way the ending was handled and one or two of the dialogues that I can't recall at the moment.
Journey Down is great so far, but it's just one episode so far.

[Anonymous No.606131]

>>606112
>single character
Fuck that noise

[Anonymous No.606135]

>>605924

Arcanum is pretty unpolished and can feel a bit clunky when compared to other crpgs, but once you get into it, it's a treat. You can play a talky character, but you will have to fight at certain points in the game. If you really don't want to do that yourself, you have to rely on your companions doing it for you and it that case, you should probably invest in skills that aid your companions in some way, like getting herbology to heal them, or healing and buffing magic. Maybe some tech to craft items for them. It could be a cool character concept honestly, if a bit passive.

[Anonymous No.606173]

>>605982
Everytime I come to this board I always see a million games I remember playing but never beating. Blade Runner was pretty cool iirc I might go out of my way to finish that. Thanks a ton!

>>606135
I just had a hard time getting past the beginning I mean I wandered around and went into a cave and got into a few fights i think but that's about it. I wanna do that character idea you said though that's what I was planning.

[Anonymous No.606174]

>>606101
No, it doesn't.

>all non-casters are fire and forget attack drones with no active abilities at all
>casters are fucking worthless at low level and overpowered at high level
>rogues and related classes get bullshit powered non-magical invisibility spells instead of proper stealth, can dance in plate armor in front of a guards nose without being seen if you minmax enough
>the entire saving throw system
>everything about hit dice
>vancian magic

[Anonymous No.606208]

>>606173
>I just had a hard time getting past the beginning
That's fairly usual.
Arcanum's "hardest" bits are the first and second area. (zeppelin, rat cave with ghosts, fight on the way out of the map, shrouded hills bandits)

After that done with there tends to be a lot more smooth sailing as you can pick other places to check out.
I recommend to back up your charisma with some smple magic as it's a lot more easier to deal with than tech. Five great spells are Harm, Fireflash, Invisibility, Teleport and Dominate Will.

[Anonymous No.606217]

>>606174
Never played TOEE I take it?
The combat is actually fun.

[Anonymous No.606248]

agreed on BG being pretty epic the original was the 1st rpg i ever played

also wizardry8 nwn and lionheart get frequent replays

[Anonymous No.606249]

>>605813

BG2 is a good pick

Arcanum gameplay is kinda horseshit

[Anonymous No.606258]

>>605924
>Story quality. I've heard that there's not many games that rank up to it though.

Try Anachronox or Mask of the Betrayer

[Anonymous No.606259]

>>606173

>I just had a hard time getting past the beginning

That's the case for most people. See Avellone's Let's play of Arcanum for example.
You could do what I said, but you would have trouble in the early parts of the game. There are tons of companions in the game, but it takes a while before you can get them. But then again, one of the best fighters in the game is available in the first town.
A thing to note though, experience from combat is partially based on participation. If you don't do anything in a fight, you'll get very little xp. Your companions will level up a lot but you'll lag behind.

[Anonymous No.606302]

>>605771

This.

It may not have the best story, the best combat, etc but each part it's at least a B+ to me. Definitely the most complete experience.

Pic related, it's me replaying it right now

[Anonymous No.606320]

>>606208

Black mountain mines break plenty of people as well. Having to remove your weapons to deal with tough enemies is kind of counterintuitive.

[Anonymous No.606330]

>>606320
Oh yeah those golems are a bit of a bitch for non-spellcasters.

[Anonymous No.606336]

>>605470
I can only agree with the sense of adventure part.

Laughably bad writing and cookie-cutter characters prevent me from taking this whole D&D fanfic seriously.

[Anonymous No.606343]

>>606336

Turnip hating scum.

[Anonymous No.606345]

>>605753
>>605858
>including games that came out before 1997? that's so hipster

let me guess, they're "dated" and they have a "bad interface."

it's like i'm really on /v/

[Anonymous No.606357]

>>606330

Funnily enough, I went with a gunslinger as my first character. I had a tough time for the early parts of the game but breezed through what is often a wall for the comparatively more powerful melee builds.

[Anonymous No.606362]

>>606345
>complain about shit nobody said
it's like i'm really on /v/

[Anonymous No.606364]

>>606345

They said nothing about that.

[Anonymous No.606369]

>>605719
that's a bastardized, trollbait version of this one, the best RPG list /v/ has come up with

[Anonymous No.606372]

>>606362
>>606364
hence, "let me guess"

it's called reading comprehension

[Anonymous No.606378]

hi

[Anonymous No.606385]

>>606372

And it's a bad fucking practice to make shit up to complain about by guessing.

Let me guess, you like to suck cock. Thanks for allowing fags to ruin our board moot.

[Anonymous No.606390]

>>606372
I called that list shit because some games are clearly misplaced and the fact that PS:T, Deus Ex and System Shock 2 are in the lowest tier described as "tryhard" clearly demonstrates that it was created by an idiot who thinks "it's well known so it must be bad".

[Anonymous No.606392]

>>606372
nobody even implied it.

i think you might want to learn something about the "reading comprehension" of yours

>>606369
which is still pretty meh.

[Anonymous No.606393]

>>606378

Heya.

[Anonymous No.606409]

>>606385
it doesn't take a rocket scientist to come to the conclusion that their issue with that list is the inclusion of all those old games, especially when the word "hipster" was thrown around. what else would it be?

[Anonymous No.606419]

>>605719
try harder

[Anonymous No.606420]

>>606390
Fallouts, BG2 and a lot of other stuff in that list is "well-known" too though and it isn't in the lowest tier. I think it was more of a jab at the fanbase trying to hype that trio of particular games over everything else all the time.

[Anonymous No.606428]

>>606409
one of my issues with the list is having the witcher 2 in high tier, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.606429]

>>606357
that electrogun, the coolest thing in RPG ever

[Anonymous No.606430]

>>606390
which ones are misplaced?

[Anonymous No.606435]

>>606420
Possibly, this kind of stuff has no place in a list aiming at any kind of accuracy though.

[Anonymous No.606442]

>>606409

> their issue with that list is the inclusion of all those old games

Where do they ever say that?

>what else would it be?

I don't fucking know, hence I don't try to ascribe them reasons they haven't expressed.
If anything, if they're on /vr/, chances are they don't care about the age of a game. Maybe they think those games are genuinely shitty.

[Anonymous No.606446]

>>606435
Chances are that the viewer has already heard and played through the three games considering their popularity around here though, so does it even matter that much really?

[Anonymous No.606447]

>>606428
>i disagree about one game, therefore the entire list is shit

[Anonymous No.606457]

>>606447
>one of my issues
are you fucking retarded?

[Anonymous No.606459]

>>606429

Tesla gun is cool, yeah. Too bad it uses an actual projectile though as you can hit your companions with it. Otherwise I'd be using it more often.

[Anonymous No.606463]

>>606430
I'd say Diablo games and Warband aren't the same kind of RPGs as the other games on the list and shouldn't even be there. Also, KOTOR belongs a tier lower, it is decently executed but nothing special and KOTOR2 does everything it did better despite Peragus and being unfinished. Then I saw the lowest tier and stopped looking.

[Anonymous No.606473]

>>606463
>I'd say Diablo games and Warband aren't the same kind of RPGs as the other games on the list and shouldn't even be there.
that's the issue with "rpg lists", there are too many subgenres and player preferences that you can't just throw everything into one list and call it a day.

[Anonymous No.606492]

>>606473
True that, we can argue all day about what RPG is, the term is too wide. Still, putting games with no or very little story on a list consisting of mostly story-focused games doesn't seem like a good idea.

[Anonymous No.606503]

>>606442
>Where do they ever say that?
use your brain for a moment, half of those top games are sacred cows that everybody loves, like fallout and baldur's gate etc. the other half are old ass games like star trail and darklands, games with a difficult learning curve and bad graphics. which ones do you think would inspire a response like "this is a shitty, hipster list"?

>If anything, if they're on /vr/, chances are they don't care about the age of a game.
yeah, if they're a simple platformer or JRPG. DOS threads don't last long here

>Maybe they think those games are genuinely shitty.
yeah i know, they're dated and have bad interfaces

>>606457
what does it say about you if you think that mentioning one new game wholly disproves my accusation?

[Anonymous No.606504]

>>606492
there aren't that many story-focused rpgs though, and those that are tend to be arpgs.

so basically, by saying you don't want to include rpgs that aren't story based means you don't want games like wizardry, might and magic or even fallout on the list.

[Anonymous No.606507]

>>606504
Fallout is story-based.

[Anonymous No.606510]

>>606507
it isn't.

[Anonymous No.606517]

>>606503
what does it say about you when you make baseless accusations and then try to defend them instead of admitting you made a mistake?

[Anonymous No.606519]

>>606510
Okay, then what is? BG? Fallout isn't that far removed from it concerning story focus at all.

[Anonymous No.606523]

>people seriously arguing over fucking tier charts
Get the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.606527]

>>606519
i'd consider story-focused rpgs games like BG, PS:T, betrayal at krondor, albion and anachronox,

[Anonymous No.606529]

>>606510
It is a sandbox with a story. It's about as story-focused as TES, which isn't much, but still more than 0. In Diablo, story is just the background excuse for you to kill shitloads of monsters, and M&B has no story at all.

[Anonymous No.606531]

>>606463
almost every RPG list includes ARPGs for some dumb reason. what can ya do

i also wouldn't put BG2 or PST anywhere near god tier, but that's just my opinion. it's still a much better list than all the other terrible ones /v/ has shit out

[Anonymous No.606539]

>>606527

How is Fallout less story focused than BG? You can fuck around forever in BG without touching the main story while FO1 has a timer solely because of main story reasons.

[Anonymous No.606540]

>>606529
>It is a sandbox with a story.
A sandbox? The original Fallout?

[Anonymous No.606542]

>>606527
I think I worded that wrong. I didn't mean to say only games that really put an emphasis on the story belong on the list, just the games where story actually exists and plays a role.

[Anonymous No.606546]

>>606529
it's not sandbox but rather open world.

that doesn't change that calling "story focused" rpg anything that has little more than "0 story" is pretty dumb. also diablo is hack and slash

[Anonymous No.606569]

>>606529
I think you're confusing the term "sandbox" with the term "nonlinear" and you need to stop.

[Anonymous No.606575]

>>606539
pretty sure it's established time limit in fallout is stupid.

>You can fuck around forever in BG without touching the main story
yeah, have fun fucking around in candlekeep. and if you say it doesn't count because muh tutorial area, than have fun getting to baldur's gate. in bg2 you can't even get anywhere unless story tells you to.


>>606542
and so we get into argument in what games story actually plays a role, great.

[Anonymous No.606583]

>>606517
i should've just simply asked before going on the offensive. i'm just partial to that particular tier list because it's led me to some great games, and i overreacted at the word "hipster." i apologize

[Anonymous No.606604]

>>606575

>pretty sure it's established time limit in fallout is stupid.

Can't say that I like it, but it's hardly stupid. The time limit is justified, story wise.
And what does the time limit supposedly being "stupid" have to do with the game being story oriented or not?

[Anonymous No.606608]

>>606583
it's okay, there's nothing wrong with using those lists as "games to look into", as long as you actually ignore the tiers.

[Anonymous No.606617]

>>605719

I absolutely agree with the trying too hard choice

[Anonymous No.606640]

>>606604
i don't think time limit alone should be reason to consider the game to be story focused.

especially when you compare the emphasis to games like >>606527

[Anonymous No.606712]

>>606174
This is one of the issues with CRPGs
Minmaxing in RPGs is usually counter fun behavior.

[Anonymous No.607129]

>>605813

Play the other Infinity Engine games - Baldur's Gate, then BGII. Icewind Dale series is fun if you want something a little more hack-and-slash focused.

[Anonymous No.609842]

>Eye of the Beholder I + II
>Not good or great tier

[Anonymous No.609887]

>>605683
>I wasn't aware BG2 was frowned upon here
Nor was I. I'd agree that it's definitely one of the greatest RPGs I've played, but obviously I've never played (and never will) all RPGs ever made.

My top contenders, in no particular order, would be:
* Baldur's Gate
* Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn (ToB expansion content is kinda meh)
* Fallout
* Morrowind

Also, some of my older favorites would be Ultima Underworld and Worlds of Ultima: The Savage Empire. WoU:TSE, unfortunately hasn't aged well. I still find it enjoyable to play occasionally for nostalgia, but while the content is awesome, the engine is frankly terrible, mainly because it only gives you a very tiny viewport.
UU has held up very well I think.

[Anonymous No.609914]

Just semi-recently acquired BG2. As a big DnD fan I figured I'd get into these games with no problem, but I started by trying out Baldur's Gate 1 and found it...not to my liking, to be honest. The combat felt too clunky to me and I didn't really enjoy the characters or story, granted I only got like 4 hours into it before uninstalling, but I think my main issue was not understanding the AD&D combat system. (I started with 3E, don't hate me too much).

I tried ToEE and was enjoying it for a bit, especially considering I played the actual DnD campain a few years back, so it felt familiar and it was cool to see graphic representations of familiar locations, but again, I just couldn't get into it.

Then I started BG2 and suddenly it all just clicked for me. I still don't fully understand the mechanics but I'm having fun with it. I've done a small handful of quests in the first city and have a full party, still trying to save enough gold to start the next chapter. I think it's the combination of the characters (specifically, their interactions and dialogue) and the setting that I'm liking so far, but I'm glad I stuck with it through that annoying first dungeon.

Gonna try going back to ToEE next seeing as I'm more familiar with 3ed. rules. After playing BG2 though I'm going to find it hard to play as just custom characters with no personality/dialogue, that may kill the experience for me.

Also considering trying Planescape finally, as after reading more about it it sounds almost like my ideal RPG, so I guess we'll see.

[Anonymous No.609940]

>>605561

0/10 gtfo newfag

[Anonymous No.609959]

>>606575
>>606604
While I'll agree that the time limit is stupid, it does make sense from a story point of view.
However, they could have done what RPGs usually do and just emphasized that "it's urgent" without specifying or enforcing any actual time limit.

That said, I never had all that much of a problem finding the water chip, and after that the time limit is gone so you can do whatever you want.

[Anonymous No.610048]

>>605470
I used to think so, but since then I've developed a greater appreciation for the more refined mechanics of older RPGs. The original Pool of Radiance is utterly sublime when you put the time into getting your head around it.

[Anonymous No.610078]

>>609842
Dungeon Master is superior.

[Anonymous No.610083]

>>609887
Doesn't Nuvie support Savage Empire?

[Anonymous No.610090]

>>610083
Could be. I remember seeing that years ago, but I haven't checked it out in recent times. Is it in a reasonably usable state now?

[Anonymous No.610227]

>>610090
I believe yes, haven't tried it yet but I will sometime soon. Allegedly U6 at least is possible to complete with it and even if there were any problems, it's possible to just copypaste the save file into the regular game and continue in that.

[Anonymous No.610641]

>>610090
>Is it in a reasonably usable state now?
U6 is fully finishable and most of what's left are improvements they have planned iirc.
Worlds of Ultima still isn't playable though it's on their list.

[Anonymous No.612463]

>>605683
>>605691
Too bad its awful. I still can't belive it was so sucessful compared to planescape.

BG1 was a grindy boring piece of shit not even going to bother

BG2 managed to get in the zone but the characters were lame as shit, some barely got any spotlight, the design of the quest was also bad ,specially their pacing, there are only a few parts where the game takes its time to build upon like the sewer cult part or the underdark and once a quest is done , its done for good, you won;t ever see a consequence or a reference to what happened for the rest of the game

Most of the zones till you start chasing irenicus is optional which really hurts th game, there is no causality or continuity and they don't really go on the lore or are related in any way to what you are doing

The writing is average and boring, not remotely close to Plansecpae

The worst part of all is the villain, he bitches about misdeeds when he tried to suck magic of the tree of life to become a god like being. Not to mention he makes a big deal about you when there are thousands childs of baals running around the world

[Anonymous No.613763]

If I were to play Baldur's Gate, should I get the regular or enhanced edition? I remember some anons saying they didn't like the enhanced edition.
Or maybe I should skip BG1 and go straight to BG2?

[Anonymous No.614531]

>>613763
Download BG1 + 2 and expansions, then get easytutu. Google it, it lets you play baldur's gate 1 in baldur's gate 2. I recommend using widescreen mod for proper resolutions, the gibberlings 3 fixpack and certain bits of the gibberlings 3 tweakpack.

[Anonymous No.617376]

>>613763
I tried the enhanced edition, and there was something seriously wrong with the framerate. It runs at half the speed of the original.

I remember a lot of guys in /tg/ were complaining about it, too, and there were a lot of workarounds being thrown around, only half of which actually worked.

I don't know what the fuck Bioware did, but someone fucked up.

[Anonymous No.617387]

>>617376
Can't you just set the framerate in the config like in the original? I have no idea why anyone would ever want to play it on anything other than 60 FPS.

[Anonymous No.617407]

>>613763
enhanced edition is trash, play original with bgtutu if you want slightly better ui and resolution.

[Anonymous No.617414]

>>617387
It was somehow more complicated than that. Like, the game specifically wanted to run at 30fps, and changing the config only worked for about half the people who actually tried it.

So I don't really know what the deal was with that.