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DOOM THREAD

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Please READ this FAQ before posting, some stuff here is very important!
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Doom setup tutorial for newfriends:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0QyGyUmwh8
PRO DOOM STRATS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJcf0aOwmiA
Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vrDOOM

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What's new?
We discuss wads n' shit.
>implying there's anything else going on in the doom community
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Discuss wads, stories, projects, servers, ask for recommendations, suggest ideas, etc; don't be shy, we're here to help!

We have many projects going, and if you want to share your maps or join in whatever thing you may want feel free to do it.

Remember, to join the /vr/ servers, you should get Zandronum
http://zandronum.com/download

We have an IRC channel too

irc.zandronum.com #vr
password: vrtroopers

For singleplayer, use GZDoom SVN builds. vid_renderer can switch between software and OpenGL so you don't have to install zdoom as well.
http://svn.drdteam.org/gzdoom/

This is a begginer's pack someone kindly put up for everyone
IWAD Pack (40 MB) (Contains Doom, Doom2, Plutonia, TNT, etc.)
http://www.mediafire.com/?jdl2pbv0vfv0b6n
Doom Pack (200 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/?zwhkju5l5d8mo9v
MEGA PACK (1 GB) (w/mirrors)
http://filewinds.com/ka0r1kpttoow/DOOM_Megapack.zip.html
https://mega.co.nz/#!Q5JD1QyB!UbMB9lwxtTsHFJW5FNU0emKXvqEpptZPKs_kVB8P_jc
http://www.mediafire.com/?a01dhq1jk7i3p
Doom Images Folder (compiled by DoctorAmazing)
http://www.mediafire.com/?sp9f1ga0o1tcr49

If you happen to be looking for resources such as weapon sprites, textures or monster sprites, this is your one-stop
http://pastebin.com/EfvgZABx

Let's get Dooming!

>> No.604628

Why yes Anon, I am fucking excited for the new ROTT. Push walls ahoy!

>> No.604657
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604657

Is there any game that used the Doom engine that isn't good?
Everyone seems so eager to jump on the Doom bandwagon that by fans' descriptions it seems everything that it touched turned to gold, and I'm not sure if people are being sincere or if they are somehow clouded. Not saying they are, I'm genuinely asking, I only played Doom.

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604661

Anyone wanna go on /vr/ participates in a 3 way? I had a lot of buzzword last night with you faggots.

>> No.604664

>>604657
There's um... freedoom.. but that's not an official doom game. So uhh.. not really.

>> No.604676

>>604657
I didn't like Harmony that much. Freedoom is pretty shitty too. Everything else is good but they all have their flaws.

>> No.604690
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604690

>tfw remaking Doom 2 with harder enemies replacing the old ones
>tfw Zombiemen become Sergeants, Sergeants become chaingunners, Imps become Hell Knights, and so on

>> No.604692

IT's okay for me have fear to play doom?

>> No.604693
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604693

Daily reminded that finns are faggots

>> No.604704

>>604693
lyl

>> No.604705
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>>604693
>(Sigh)

>> No.604716

>>604693
He's talking about wall running, it's a glitch in Doom where you can run faster than your normal top speeds.

Not to mention all of his points are made redundant with sourceports.

>> No.604720
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604720

>>604693
may god have mercy on your soul, because i sure wont

>> No.604721

>>604693
>shotgun fires 7 ammo, double-barreled 20
what?
does he mean how the SSG takes 2 ammo instead of 1?
if he's talking about that then HE can't count, the SSG fires both barrels at once

>> No.604730

>>604721
The Shotgun fires 7 pellets per shot and the SSG fires 20 pellets per shot

>> No.604764

>>604693
Judging from board UI it seems that this was posted in a finnish imageboard called "ylilauta" and that place is the cancer of finnish imageboards, it is filled with underagefags and retards so please just ignore it. Regards a pissed off finn.

>> No.604771

>>604764
I completely agree
Regards another pissed off finn

>> No.604791

>>604623
>gang
>Duke, Doomguy, Bloodguy
okay
>Gordon, Chell
Th'fuck?

>> No.604831

>>604791
Half life was a 1999 FPS. Portal I don't know why is there, but eh.

>> No.604834

>>604791
>bloodguy
That's Caleb, bro.

Also from what I remember that's the only group shot that guy took.

>> No.604836

>>604831
Actually it was '98

>> No.604923

>>604834
Hadn't he made Ranger, too?

>> No.605013

>>604923
Probably. Let me see if I can find it.

>> No.605041

Quick question: can I use Zandronum for direct IP-to-IP communication? Don't really wanna use servers

>> No.605059
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>>605013
Found it!

>> No.605062

>>605041
You should probably use GZDoom instead, it handles net the same way it did in the original DOS version (p2p)

>> No.605065
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605065

>>605059

>> No.605190

question: I loved used doomsday as a source for single player. I kinda like the different stuff it had (highres sprites, the option of changing it to 3D models, high quality music)
it is possible to use these features on other sourceports?

>> No.605206

>>605190
HQ music and highres sprites/textures, yes. 3d models, no.

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>>605062
bad idea

you're better off creating server with Doomseeker and unchecking broadcast to master

and if you're going to play deathmath you should set up flags unless you want imps and cyberdemons playing with you too

>> No.605389

>>605226
>deathmath
WORLD DEADLIEST MATH EXAM EVER CREATED TO MAN

>> No.605396

>>604657

I hated Harmony and Strife.

>> No.605409

>>605396
Strife was good (opinion, obvs), Harmony I haven't really given a proper try, so no comment really.

>> No.605415

>>605389
We need DoomMath now
CALC AND SOLVE

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605429

>>605389
>>605415
It's official.

Get the president on the phone. We're making this a thing.

>> No.605440

>>605415
CALC AND SOLVE YOUR EQUATIONS
YOUR NUMBERS ARE HUGE THAT MEANS YOU HAVE HUGE EQUATIONS
CALC AND SOLVE

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605452

Just beat Episode 2 (for the first time) on the Xbox 360 arcade version, what difficulty should I be playing on? A better question is, what difficulty do you guys play on?

Also, anyone have funny/clever Doom ideas I could draw? I'm trying to better my tablet skills, ideas would be appreciated.

>> No.605453

>>605440
CALC AND SOLVE YOUR ROOTS!

>> No.605458

>>605452
Ultra-Violence

Always play on Ultra-Violence

>> No.605460
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605460

>>605452
Generally Ultra-Violence. Nightmare's a bit much for 99% of the population, and the others can be a bit brain numbing if you're familiar with shooters.

And stick around, the creativity on these threads is half of what keeps me coming back.

>> No.605462

>>605452
ultra-violence
sometimes i'll play on hurt me plenty

>> No.605463
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>>605460
Get it? Imp, lying?

>> No.605464
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605464

So yesterday I played Zen Dynamics. I read in the ZDoom article about how this WAD came up as a runner up in the Cacowards and I found out why while I was playing.

>Level design

Sometimes it is nice, sometimes it makes no sense at all. (MAP06 for example)

>Reloading and weird alt-attacks

I appreciate the fact that there wasn't a "simple" way to do a proper code for manual reloading and Xaser found a way for it, but it breaks the pace completely in certain parts of the game. As for the weapons, they tend to break the game (See: the Scorcher and MAP03) or be completely useless when using their alt attacks

>Monster placement

Some of them seem out of place in certain maps. And oh man don't get me fucking started with the Maelstrom (a Lost Soul variant). His attack power seems to be fairly decent at best, but what ruins it completely is the fact that IT'S A GODDAMN 8-ANGLED, FLAME-BASED, ALMOST UNDODGEABLE one. It causes a lot of infight in certain parts of the WAD, but still, it doesn't do any favor to the game at all. After reaching City of Dis I just couldn't resist and killed all of them via console

Now, let's move on to that flying black Mastermind variant. In MAP02 serves as a fairly good boss, and it's more fair to fight him since you have plenty of cover in that map; however, you get to fight him again in other parts of the game, while being in the worst of places. Oh, and I hope you get used to evade his attacks, since you get to fight three of them in MAP06

>"Why? Because of reasons :P"

He was fully aware of the downsides of certain things (the Scorcher being one of them) so he completely removes it for the final map. Now, when reaching hell (the City of Dis), you lose ALL your weapons, why? "Well, in Doom 3 you lose them when reaching Hell, right? :P" and it gives you, FROM ALL THE WEAPONS, the dual-plasma Machine guns; and they're not exactly the best of things to use while fighting the hordes of monsters you come across in the map.

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605469

>>605463

>> No.605475

>>605440
I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER FELT MORE RESPECT FOR ANYTHING THAN I HAVE FOR THIS HERE CALCULATOR.

>>605458
This. If you're a total newfriend you might want to try Hurt Me Plenty to start off, but literally everyone plays Ultra-Violence.

>> No.605497

>>605452

If you want an extra challenge after UV

Try UV with sv_fastmonsters 1 on. Beware, never go into a map blind with that setting though, not knowing where certain hitscan enemies are can be the death of you.

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>>605475
>but literally everyone plays Ultra-Violence.

I don't!

>> No.605519

>>605505

Get used to it, I always played Doom in ITYTD, but for the past 6 months I man'd up. Now I immediately kill every single chaingunner I come across whenever I see them

>> No.605531

>>605519

Game becomes exponentially easier when you prioritize every monster.

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605537

>>605519
Chaingunners are my personal enemies
every time I die, it's because of some stupid shit pertaining to them

>> No.605542

>>605519
>>605531
Revenants > Arachnotrons > Chaingunners > Mancubus

>> No.605554

We need more guys in the Samsara Sur/vr/ival server, the party's just getting started.

I had taken on an entire Wave 4 by myself as Duke Nukem, and would have kept going had I not killed my own retarded self.

>> No.605571

>>605554
Who was the Corvus bro I was with for that? Squirt or something like that?

>> No.605585
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605585

okay doom general, I have a question.

Is max difficulty (usually nightmare) considered 2hard, but because of artificial difficulty as opposed to challenge.

How about when you compare nightmare KDD to Plutonium Experiment on ultra violence?

I apologize in advance for spelling/doom errors, KDD is Knee Deep in the Dead

>> No.605612

>>605585
Nightmare! is pretty much artificial difficulty on most maps because monsters respawn.

>> No.605621

>>605585

I tried to beat perfect hatred on nightmare once, those 4 hell barons next to the cave your suppose to go into almost immediately respawned when I stepped in, I gave up there.

>> No.605656

>>605585
The problem is that you run out of ammo even if you don't run out of health packs thus it is artificial difficulty. It's not even difficulty, it's virtually impossible.

>> No.605660

>>605475
I can't do Ultra when I play Brutal Doom though because it's just not fun.

>> No.605675

>>605660
I'm curious, what don't you find fun about it?

>> No.605681

>>605675

Well in brutal you have to try the 3 new difficulties, I think minimally you should do the one that increases speed because unlike fast monsters it also increases monster movement speed aside from projectiles.

>> No.605701

>>605675
It becomes too grindy because you have to avoid taking damage so much. I also hate how much the regular shotgun got nerfed by giving it a realistic shot pattern. I also hate using that fucking assault rifle that replaced the pistol but it's so overpowered that if you don't use it really hikes up the difficulty.

Maybe I just need to get used to it more, I haven't played that much yet, I'm really enjoying the minigun though. It's the best thing about the mod. Also, getting health back from fatalities is ridiculous game breaking bullshit. You can just run into a room, alt punch one monster to death. And then kill them off one by one as they surround you because of the invisibility and health regen from the kill. Total BS.

>> No.605706

>>605681
What new difficulties?

>> No.605714

>>605701
Oh I forgot to mention, the fucking recoil that actually knocks you back... WTF is that shit, is Doomguy some 100 pound vegan bitch now? That crap really made me angry.

>> No.605730

>>605706
Version 18 adds three more difficulties. IIRC it's one for faster monsters, one for more powerful monsters, and one for both.

>> No.605737

>>605701
I'm really not sure what you mean, the shotgun handles fine for me, and I think the rifle is *supposed* to be better.

And honestly I thought the health regen from fatalities was *fun*, especially in maps that don't have much health.

>> No.605742

>>605714
on Mars, gravity would be ~30% of what it is on earth, so, a 310 lb gorilla of a man would be about 100 lbs, kick from a weapon would be considerable, if it had an atmosphere, which given that it's in a base, I'm guessing it has one.

Then again he's carrying like 9 weapons with him, so, eh.

>> No.605754

>>605742
Except for the parts of Doom that are in Hell. Or on Earth.

>> No.605758

>>605742
Also didn't doom take place in one of marss moons

>> No.605774

>>605758
No, but it did take place on two of Mars' moons.

>> No.605779

>>605742
Doom 2 was on earth, and Ep2-3 of doom were in hell.

>> No.605805

>>605571
It was Kurt.

>> No.605807

>>605737
Yes, the rifle is supposed to be your main weapon and if you use it brings down the difficulty quite a bit because it's so overpowered. I hate it though and don't use it.

The pellets from the pump action shotgun come out in a horizontal line in classic Doom, giving it a really wide spread. That got changed into a smaller and round shot pattern that's more realistic but less useful. You really didn't notice that? That change really stuck out to me.

>> No.605861

>>605807
I guess the spread is smaller, but that's never really seemed like a problem to me.

>> No.605884

>>605807
Also, any bullet you fire actually make small amounts of splash damage.

You can test it by shooting a wall with you in front of it. It will damage you.

>> No.605902

>>605884
A) Didn't this get taken out?

B) Why the fuck are you shooting at a wall you're standing right next to?

>> No.605915

>>605902
I wouldn't know, the brutal doom version I have is quite old.

Also, its quite easy to hurt yourself if you're plowing through demons with your super shotgun.

>> No.605949

>>605884
Yes, I noticed that too. It's really annoying.

>> No.605969

Anyone here ever heard of the Beautiful Doom .wads? They add footstep sounds, new blood effects, new weapon effects, and miscellaneous cool effects and shit. It works with ZDoom, but sadly not with Zandronum. But I prefer ZDoom for single player anyway.

>> No.605973

>>605915
Then for god's sake, get either v18 or the v19 test.

>> No.606030

>>605958
Well that didn't last long.

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>>605452
>Playing Doom for the first time ever
>choose Nightmare difficulty
>mfw

I managed to get through the first three episodes, but fuck Thy Flesh Consumed on that difficulty.

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>>606147
HOLY SHIT

>> No.606285

>>606147
>nightmare
>first three episodes
>Playing Doom for the first time ever

ARE YOU A GOD

>> No.606294

>>606285
prob just bullshitting

>> No.606412

>finally get around to getting working N64 controller
>decide to play some Doom 64 after not playing it for awhile
6SPOOKY9ME

>> No.606497

>>604690
Couldn't you just do this with a DEH patch?

>> No.606502

>>606147
>>606185
>>606285
>>606294
It's not that hard, men. You've just gotta play it enough, kill the monsters in the way, and escape. However, Thy Flesh Consumed is immensely difficult on NIGHTMARE! because the first level, you're faced with a bunch of monsters with very minute ammo. Every other level is possible, but you have to be extremely precise on what monsters you kill.

>> No.606545

No-one is playing anymore

>> No.606565

wanna boost up difficulty? never play on nmare, play on UV with sv_fastmonsters 1!
yeah screw monster respawn

>> No.606589

>>605452
Literally everyone plays Ultra-Violence because it is a perfectly balanced difficulty.
It's not too hard, it's not too easy. Every level feels like a legitimate challenge, a real obstacle, while still giving you a chance. Even if you are very good at the game UV still manages to test your skill.

Play on UV and never look back.

>> No.606593

>>606589
>Literally everyone plays Ultra-Violence

Only idiots believe this.

>> No.606594

>>606497
Or DECORATE

>> No.606595

>>606593
Only idiots believe this.

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>>606589
>Literally everyone plays Ultra-Violence
every time i read this i just sigh and go for another playthrough on itytd just to spite you people

>> No.606616

>>606610
>intentionally taking all the fun out of the game

>> No.606619

>>606610
Correction then: literally everyone who isn't an unskilled, passive-agressive baby plays on Ultra-Violence.

>> No.606628

>>606589
I tend to play on Hurt Me Plenty with Brutal Doom because that in itself adds difficulty. I haven't played vanilla in years.

>> No.606632

>>606619
>>606616

oh so everyone who doesn't follow your standards is a passive-aggressive baby who hates fun
the jokes write themselves.

>> No.606642

>>606619
Hey i've got a post for you
>>606585

>> No.606643

>>606619
I put on UV and IDDQD. I play Doom to let out some steam, nothing more. It's good for that.

>> No.606645

>>606628
"haven't played vanilla in years"
why

>> No.606647

>>606642
>Ultra-Violence
>challenging
Yeahno.

>> No.606650

>>606632
>>606642
>>606643
Eh, alright. I can understand someone who plays just to blast some baddies, have fun and unwind. That's why Russian Overkill exists after all.

>> No.606653

>>606619
>mfw everyone else plays on UV
>wads like Alien Vendetta and Memento Mori kick my ass in HMP

>> No.606660

How about we let people play on the difficulty setting they find the most suitable for them? That is their exact function, /v/.

>> No.606662

>>606653
That's what they're meant to do, yes.

>> No.606667

>>606653
>everyone else plays on UV
This is a lie that nobody should believe.
I don't know why the community keeps on perpetuating the "UV OR BUST!!!!!!" bullshit.

>>606660
Fucking this.

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>>606653
>Try to play random wads with Brutal Doom
>it throws 100 hellknights or 4 cyberdemons at you

>> No.606673

>>606667
>I don't know why the community keeps on perpetuating the "UV OR BUST!!!!!!" bullshit
probably because most wads are made to be played on UV

>> No.606676

>>606650
>someone agrees with me
Christ, that thread was more of a nightmare than Tricks and Traps on Nightmare.

>> No.606680

>>606628
>Brutal Doom
>adds difficulty
The only difficulty comes from having to reload and whatever you handicap yourself with. Using fatalities is almost good enough to break the game on its own, but if you add headshots on to that it's almost like Russian Overkill. And if you use iron sights, you don't even have to get close for said headshots.

>> No.606685

>>606680
Except Knights and especially Cyberdemons rape your shit way harder than in vanilla.

>> No.606687

>>606672
Brutal Doom requires a very specific type of map to be fun.
Maps that have have lots of enclosed space with lots of corners and LOS objects to hide behind, that don't throw too many large enemies at you at once, one or two at a time is more than challenging.
Hordes of enemies will almost always destroy you in brutal doom unless you have the BFG.

>> No.606691

>>606685
You can drop a Hell Knight with one shotgun headshot. As for Cyberdemons, I'm sure we've all seen seven rockets.wmv.

>> No.606694

>>606667
>I don't know why the community keeps on perpetuating the "UV OR BUST!!!!!!" bullshit.
Probably because most map designers are too lazy to test and balance for multiple difficulties.

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>>606673
The game does feel like it should be on UV but it doesn't mean that people are lesser if they choose to take it a bit slower.

captcha: lesPerm but

>> No.606705

>>606685
SEVEN ROCKETS

>> No.606710

>>606691
Large enemies in Brutal Doom are easy by themselves. If you're surrounded by several of them, or even say just a small room with three Hell Knights, kiss your ass goodbye.
Brutal Doom feels like it was made for the player to either take on interspersed encounters of parties of enemies with several small and one large, or lots of small enemies at once, or one or two big enemies at a time.
The wad just doesn't feel like it was made for hordes of enemies or for several big enemies at a time. The odds are simply stacked against you in those cases.

>> No.606718

I play hard megawads with scoredoom, attempting to get the highest score on UV. I don't do it because it's challenging(it isn't), but because it's fun. I might just be autistic, but the feeling of getting a better score in a map is quite nice.

>> No.606724

>>606710
Yeah. This is why I keep saying someone needs to make a Brutal Doom megawad, of 32 or 36 levels designed specifically with Brutal Doom in mind. Because playing Brutal Doom with levels not designed for it just feels clumsy and weird.

>> No.606748

Enough about Brutal Doom.
Let's talk about other also excellent gameplay mods.
Like Wild Weasel's Nazis!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tLw_c2VdPs
Nazis! + Epic 2 is an excellent combination.

>> No.606758

>>606667
The official maps are all easy enough that - outside of a few bits of Final Doom and a couple of notorious Thy Flesh Consumed maps - there's precious little challenge to be had on anything lower than UV, especially for those of us that have been playing this stuff for the best part of 20 years. Most custom stuff is built with UV in mind and balanced around that too, and always has been.

I'm not going to say "UR PLAYIN IT RONG" if you're more comfortable dropping the difficulty down a notch, but pretending UV isn't the community 'default' is deluding yourself.

>> No.606787

>>606758
>but pretending UV isn't the community 'default' is deluding yourself.

I'm sorry, but you couldn't be further from the truth. Just what "community" are we talking about here? Because 4chan nor the Zdoom community count for shit on that.

>> No.606797

>>606645
Vanilla is just too easy and I've played it like 30+ times all the way through.

>> No.606803

>>606758
>especially for those of us that have been playing this stuff for the best part of 20 years

If you are still challenged by something after 20 years after all of that progression, I am curious as to what keeps it challenging now.

>> No.606808

>>604623
>gang's all here
>No Serious Sam
>Chell

>> No.606810

>>606673
But those "most wads" don't even have difficulty settings! So when you play them, it doesn't matter what difficulty you choose don't count ITYTD and NM! because you will play same levels with same monster/weapons/ammo/health placement anyway.

>> No.606814

>>606758
>20 years
Some would argue that anything is easy after that point. I mean, rote memorization has to count for something.

>> No.606824

>>606808
That's the only group picture that guy did, and he didn't make a Serious Sam. There's one with Ranger upthread, if that makes up for it (which it should).

>> No.606885

>>606814
Indeed. There's a reason there's a good portion of oldfags play UV -fast on familiar stuff in an attempt to re-inject some of that old rush.

All I'd say in regard to choosing a difficulty level is that you should absolutely feel pressured when things really kick off and all hell breaks loose. If you're not getting that "Oh no. How am I going to deal with this shit?!" feeling and the accompanying rush as you overcome the odds then you're absolutely doing it wrong.

Whether that feeling comes to someone from playing Nightmare while blindfolded or from ITYTD doesn't matter a bit to me, I'd just strongly argue that if you're getting overly comfortable it's time to turn it up a level.

>> No.606895
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606895

>>606748
I fucking love Hideous Destructor. It's the kind of mod that won't hesitate to kick your shit in, but it's surprisingly fair in its difficulty. When you first start playing, you'll probably be unable to make it past the first zombieman you find. After some thousand-odd deaths, you'll start learning and eventually overcome seemingly impossible challenges. And when you do, oh man is it satisfying. To finally have every enemy figured out, every weapon mastered, to get so used to manually pumping the shotgun that you miss it when you play without HD, there's nothing really comparable.

Then you move up to Doom 2, the cycle repeats, and you get your ass kicked all over again.

>> No.606924

>>606895
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.606943

>>606885
I agree with you that things can get old when you know how to handle them and are just going through the motions. That said, people like >>606643 and that's cool for them, even if it's not my bad personally (sometimes dickin around is fun for me, sometimes it isn't and I'd rather try and fight the game's attempts to steal my anal virginity).

>> No.606945

>>606895
I'm currently playing it with Plutonia.

>> No.607028

>>606945
plutonia is mindless slaughterwad :(

>> No.607035

Is there anyway to play HD with Zanronum?

I don't really want to download GZDoom for one mod.

>> No.607047

>>607035
Probably not. Besides, GzDOOM is just Zandronum save for the multiplayer, not to mention GzDOOM has more features.

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607049

>>607035
>not playing with GZDoom to begin with?

>> No.607043

>>607035
Nope. There was a Skulltag version long ago but it's horribly outdated and barely works.

>> No.607060
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607060

>>607035
>he actually uses zandronum for singleplayer

>> No.607078

>>607035
Just download GZDoom, it's more compatible and has more features than Zandronum anyway.
It'll take you all of 2 minutes to download and set it up.

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607079

>>607060
>>607049
>>607047

B-b-b-but, I only play multiplayer, Anons.

>>607043
Thanks. I'm downloading GZDoom now.

>> No.607080

>>607049
>>607060

Oh Christ, not this again...

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607083

>>607060
>>607049
>starting shittalk over someone's source port of choice

>> No.607105

nobody wants to play clusterfucks?

>> No.607127

>>607105
we are an organized and puritan society. we do not like clusters of any sort, and definitely take no claim in fucking.

>> No.607139
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607139

>>605458
>>605460
>>605462
>>605497
>>606589

Alright, Ultra-Violence it is. Episode 3, here I come, RIP AND TEAR!

>> No.607161

So is Aleph One a faithful source port, or should I attempt to run it vanilla?

>> No.607167

How often do you guys play on your servers?

I want to get into this, but I'd like some people to play with too.

>> No.607191

>>607161
Very faithful.
Almost puritan faithful.

>> No.607192

what about someone making a tier list of souceports, just for fun?
and adding to the image "DO NOT SHITPOST ABOUT IT, MADE JUST FOR FUN"

>> No.607204

>>607167

recently we haven't been playing on the servers. join in one of them and post the server info on the thread, that tends to bring people.

>> No.607203

>>607192
People would suggest that they bash your head in with a brick, just for fun.

>> No.607212

>>607191
Alright, it's time I played this bitch again.

>> No.607213

>>607167
I see people on the /vr/ servers quite often. I never join them because I fear that I'll suck too much and end up letting people down, especially in something like survival, LMS, or CTF.

>> No.607220

>>607192
It'd be pointless, since the popular source ports of today mostly aim to do entirely different things. Like (G)Zdoom goes for maximum size feature set, Zandro brings as much of that as it can to multiplayer, PrBoom goes for Boom-faithfulness and strong demo compatibility, Chocolate Doom is ultra-puritan, etc. All you'd accomplish is getting a bunch of folks to blow around hot air over opinions on the proper way to play Doom, which we don't need to go through again.

>> No.607224

>>607192
tier lists are retarded, and should be often ignored.

>> No.607217

>>606710
There's also the issue with projectiles being faster in BD.

>> No.607218

>>607192

Because very few source ports are objectively better than the other.
Take ZDoom and Zandronum, for example. ZDoom has a lot more modding features, while Zandronum has multiplayer that isn't shit. Both of them offer different experiences, trying to rank one as "better" is like trying to say lamb-and-steak gyros is better than chess or vice versa.

>> No.607219

>>607192
>multiplayer tier
Zandro

>single player tier
GZDoom

>vanilla tier
Chocolate

>oh god what the fuck
Doomsday

>> No.607228

>>607213
Don't worry about it, some people suck total ass and we don't care.
If you're good though, we care about that.
If you can beat Doom or Doom II on UV, you're just about perfect, even if you're not, just keep a level head on your shoulders and try.
Really, the important thing is to try, because if you do, you'll probably end up just fine.

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>>607192
>Tier list

>> No.607243

>>607219
why doomsday if "oh god what the fuck"

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607250

Uhhhhhh
what

>> No.607251

>>607238
>>607224
>>607220
>>607218
>>607203

jeez, I didn't think that talking about tier list would get on so many nerves. Sorry.
I like no-trolling tierlies

>> No.607281

>>607228
Okay, I'll give one of the servers a whirl the next time. I've never deathmatched a day in my life, so I'd probably be pretty awful at that. The most I've ever accomplished is probably completing Doom II on UV without dying, which really, isn't a big accomplishment. I died about a thousand times on Plutonia, mostly due to the surprise of how tough everything was in earlier stages.

At the very least, my Quake DMing skill should transfer over to Doom, somewhat.

>> No.607312

>>606885
I had that same feel today. I am relatively new to Doom, beat the Doom and Doom 2 campaign about 2 days ago on 'hey not too rough', decided to try TNT but still dont have the balls to play a higher difficulty yet. I was running through the level doing pretty good, feeling powerful and full of shit. I looked down a corridor to the right, and saw a rocket launcher smack in the middle of a room and a few arachnotrons legs poking out. "Ha, they could have at least tried to hide the trap!" I killed those suckers easy peasy and ran down to collect my prize thinking it was all safe and done, when the real trap landed.
TWO FUCKING REVENANTS ON BOTH THE LEFT AND RIGHT SIDES
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
it was a head rush, I noped out of that room full speed backwards at the sight of two heat seekers chasing me and I want to see more surprises like that! legitimately scared the daylights out of me and forced me to hide behind the corner, questioning what to do, knowing that any given moment I would see dancing figures beating the shit out of me. I pulled out my super shotgun thinking I was safe, and I saw it, and missed. that was a grave mistake, and I realized that when I saw them laughing at me through the deathcamera.

I continually die on hey not too rough, so I think I may only increase my difficulty next playthrough!

>> No.607320

>>607251
Tier lists aren't inherently bad.
But applying it to something subjective like source ports rather than something objective like character balance is just asking for trouble.

>> No.607360

Do I have to download anything special in order to play online/making playing online a lot more convenient>

>> No.607369

>>607312
TNT and Plutonia are significant difficulty bumps from D1/2, I still recommend UV to people who've beaten 1/2, but ain't no shame in backing it down a notch.

>> No.607378

>>607360
Zandronum
Doomseeker (normally comes with Zandronum)
Just open Doomseeker, click the server that looks good, it will autodownload the WADs needed for the game, and it will autorun Zandronum to play it! Great stuff man.

>> No.607384

>>607320
yeah,
I think it would be better to list all of them, showing pros and cons

>> No.607392

>>607384
A list of ports with descriptions of what they do and what features they come with would be dandy. Trying to arbitrate tiers out of that just invites bickering and trolling.

>> No.607403

>>607369
I will definitely admit that they are completely different beasts, but are very fun! I hope to play the scythe series after these two wads, I hear great things about it.

>> No.607406

is there any progress on the 4chan maps? i had a lot of fun with pol map and was wondering if anything like it would be made.

>> No.607413

>>607392
yeah, I agree

>> No.607417

>>607406
Someone was working on a /mlp/ map but dunno if it's made any progress

>> No.607431

>>607406
Whenever I actually get around to it, I plan on remaking the /tg/ map.

Relatedly, anyone know of a good sound I can use with the plasma rifle to turn it into a noise marine Sonic blaster?

>> No.607453
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607453

time for some classy ripping

server: Sur/vr/ival
ip: 108.61.83.66:15002
pass: vidya

running cchest4 with survival 1 life

>> No.607449

>>607431
God, you have NO idea how badly I wanna be an Ultramarine or Blood Raven running around sticking bolters up demon asses.

Testing something for /s4s/, ignore this
▲
▲▲

>> No.607459

>>607453
Damn, Cliff Lee's wife looked cute when she was little.

>> No.607463

>>607449
Actually...

You're going to be a very lost guardsman.
I'm also going to need to make the sprite for the lasrifle you start with, and eventually you might find a bolter pistol.

I also need to finish up the character sheets you can pick up and use. I already have the actor for one, though.

>> No.607464

Anyone know of a good Quake sourceport that isn't Darkplaces?

>> No.607472

>>607463
That still makes me a little tingly.

I'm still learning SLADE and DECORATE and.... Well "learning" is a bit of an exaggeration.

I'm breaking shit in fun ways, and I'm getting to where I almost know what I'm breaking. When I stop sucking at it, I'll start helping with the board mod(s).

>> No.607475

>>607464
DirectQ is perfect. It doesn't try to go for eye candy and it has easy mod and music support.

>> No.607480

>>607464
I used DirectQ before and it worked pretty good.

>> No.607482

>>607472
Do what I did- make a wad in order to learn all that stuff. That's how I ended up with ProjectILE, after all.

>> No.607485
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607485

Alright, here we go

>> No.607489

>>607464
why don't you like Darkplaces?

>> No.607497

>>607489
>playing a sourceport that tries to make a 17 year old game look good

>> No.607501

>>607482
haha, I was around for that, and a good number of my suggestions made it in your .wad (including the name :P), you and the /pol/ mapper's success even though you're new to it kinda inspired me to start digging and fucking around.

>> No.607509

>>607489
This toaster of a computer kinda lags near lights and such on it. Plus when I used it had this odd thing where doors were invisible from far away.

>>607475
>>607480
And thanks, will try it out soon.

>> No.607505

>>607497
hey, why not? it's a different experience playing quake with dinamic lighting

>> No.607540

>>607497
>Quake is 17 years old
Holy shit, it has been that long?

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607547

>>607540
And Doom is gonna be 20, this september.

>> No.607549

>>607540
According to Wikipedia it was released on June of 1996.

So yeah almost 17 years since it came out.

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>>607547
>September

>> No.607614

>>607547
>20th anniversary
>id announces Doom 4
>2 weapon slots recharge health ads no sprint they're aliens not demons