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Hardest games on S/NES?

>> No.6043552
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6043552

you call that hard?

>> No.6043556

>>6043552
He's a zoomer who watched a YouTube video on hard games once. Nobody whose played it thinks it's that bad.

>> No.6043557

>>6043549
>>6043552
Muscular ninjas make me my hardest

>> No.6043558

>>6043552
thats only hard because limited continues

with savestates its super easy

>> No.6043574

>>6043549
>pic unrelated

>> No.6043583

Riddle me this: were there any franchises whose later snes entries were more challenging than their nes predecessors? I can't think of any. For example, battletoads, ghosts n goblins, adventure island, Zelda, metroid, castlevania, Megaman, even mario, all of their 16 bit sequels are markedly easier compared to their 8 bit older siblings

>> No.6043586

>>6043558
any game is easy with cheats

>> No.6043587

>>6043558
any game is easy with cheats

>> No.6043602

>>6043583
Demon's Crest is harder than Gargoyle's Quest and Gargoyle's Quest 2.

>> No.6043603

>>6043586
>>6043587

Not cheating, it's like using a password which many games had back in the day.

>> No.6043616

>>6043603
If the game has passwords then using passwords is not cheating. Using savestates is always cheating. Cheating is of course the correct way to practice without wasting time, but you can't claim you've beaten a game until you've done it without cheating.

>> No.6043617

>>6043583
Contra

>> No.6043621

>>6043583
Donkey Kong Country is harder than Donkey Kong.

>> No.6043629

>>6043621
Not beyond first loop.

>> No.6043762

>>6043558
Any action games easy as fuck with savestates wtf lad

>> No.6043772

>>6043583
Contra 3 is much harder than 1 and Super C, that's the only example I can think of.

>> No.6043792

>>6043616
Not different, a password and a savestate achieve the same thing in practice. If passwords aren't cheating then neither is savestates.

>> No.6043845
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6043845

Fuck this game and anyone who defends it.

>> No.6043848

>>6043845
Excellent game desu

>> No.6043856

>>6043845
Shitplayer has shit taste, whoda thunk it.

>> No.6043860

>>6043856
I might be a shitplayer. When I can’t even get past the first stage i lose interest immediately.

>> No.6043870

>>6043558
give me an example of a game that isn't easy with savestates

>> No.6043880

>>6043860
You """can't""" get past it because you are a dirty quitter with no patience or willingness to learn and didn't really try. There is nothing unreasonable about the game

>> No.6043891

>>6043870
Savestates actually makes games harder.

>> No.6043946

>>6043558
>if you cheat is easy lol

>> No.6043954

>>6043583
Gradius 3

>> No.6043959
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>>6043891

>> No.6043960

>>6043891
Not harder, more aggravating. First time I played through Zelda 2, I savescummed the shit out of it, and the most difficult part of the playthrough was timing saves. I played through it legit on the 3DS eshop years later and realized just how much savescumming robs the experience from you.

>> No.6043985

>>6043549

Battletoads is hard, I think?

Silver Surfer is vastly overrated here; it's kinda crappy and has good music but isn't actually very hard.

Some of those really old games that use the Japanese try-everything-until-something-works style of hiding essential paths for advancement deserve mention here. Legacy of the Wizard or Milon's Secret Castle count, I think? I'm sure there are lots of games like that.

I can't think of any hard games on the SNES. There are RELATIVELY hard ones like Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts, but surely the hardest game on the console would be tougher than that.

>> No.6043987 [DELETED] 

>>6043985
>overrated here

(Oh and I meant "here on the Internet" not "here on /vr/" - it seems to be an AVGN thing or some such fad.)

>> No.6043989

>>6043985
>overrated here

(Oh and I meant "here on this topic" not "here on /vr/" - it seems to be an AVGN thing or some such fad.)

>> No.6043995

>>6043985
>I can't think of any hard games on the SNES
Mr Nutz

>> No.6043997

>>6043552
>>6043558

even without save state cheating, I'd say NG1 is harder.

>> No.6044008

I feel like Gauntlet is hard. Is Gauntlet hard? I guess I didn't like it enough to actually find out for sure.

Equinox is surely one of the harder SNES games.

>> No.6044009
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>>6043880
Nah the games bad. I do like your excessive use of “””””””””” tho makes my rekt more significant.

>> No.6044342

>>6043792
>a password and a savestate achieve the same thing in practice
That's only true if the game has passwords, and the passwords include all game state (which is very rare), and you only use save states on the password screen.

>> No.6044350

>>6043772
Contra 3 isn't that hard, Hardcorps is way more of a challenge.

>> No.6044351

Adventures of Batman and Robin (MD) is pretty tough, especially in the later levels.

>> No.6044482

>>6043792
passwords are an in-game mechanic, the game was designed around their existence and can be used regardless of how do you play the game, savestates are a feature external to the game, exclusive to emulators

>> No.6044485

>>6043985
I find Zombies ate my Neighbours quite tough

>> No.6044492

>>6044350
Contra 3 on hard isn't much easier than Hard Corps, both are much harder than the NES games though

>> No.6044551

>>6044492
Although you do have the skide, Hardcorps doesn't have the Super NES trademark slowdown, so it's much harder to evade, especially if you're not using Brownie.

>> No.6044697

>>6043583
punchout

>> No.6044750

>>6043549
Takeshi's Challenge.
/thread

>> No.6044753

>>6043792
Technically correct, IF you're saving only at the spots the password would bring you to. If you save mid-level, that's cheating.

>> No.6044901

>>6044485
nobody ever seems to have a problem with this one but i could never beat it as a kid

>> No.6044906

>>6044485
The game is much harder if you use passwords. You lose all your weapons.

>> No.6045084

>>6044906
yeah, might as well have no continues, difficult game

>> No.6045445

>>6043997
Ninja Gaiden's final section is completely insane but Ninja Gaiden 2 is much consistently harder with every boss being a threat and most levels not being straight lines like in the first

>> No.6045505

>>6043845
The worst part of stage 1 is the segment with the sickle weasels, get past that and you'll be fine, get a dagger and just shithouse everything.

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>>6043558
no shit

>> No.6045993
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>> No.6046013

>>6043549
Battletoads

>> No.6046162

>>6043549
Spiderman & The X-Men and Super Star Wars for me

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>>6043558

>> No.6046171

>>6045993
Bullshit: The Game

Mad City is pretty kino tho.

>> No.6046708

>>6043552
This one is technically the easiest. It's only hard because of the limited continues. Although playing all of these in order and comparing the gameplay from 1 to 3 is like night and day. 3 feels super tight.

>> No.6047464

>>6043549
Ninja Gaiden is perfectly fine and slow enough for even old folk reflexes to beat it in one run.

Battletoads is the hardest on imput, TMNT the hardest on RNG.

>> No.6047878

>>6047464

What is dangerously random in TMNT? You get the enemy sets flipped randomly, sure, but normal enemies aren't a big deal except in the final hallway. There's the Technodrome location thing, but that's not a huge problem if you're reasonably careful in those caves.

>> No.6048547

>>6047878
Not him, but having enemies respawn when you move a pixel to one side and then a pixel back has always broken my will to push through that game. Ninja Gaiden is a fucking cake walk in comparison, but maybe I just really suck at TMNT.

>> No.6048562

>>6043549
Actraiser 2 for sure. European version is even harder than the american one. Game's absolutely impossible to beat legit.

>> No.6048565

>>6047464
Only actual hard part in Battletoads is the cart stage. But man, have it ruined my childhood. Such a waste of great beat em up mechanics, if only they stuck with stages like the first one, huh

>> No.6049097

>>6043583
Is Super Ghouls n Ghosts easier than Ghosts n Goblins? SGnG has a lot of bullshit in it.

>> No.6049101

>>6044697
Have never finished Punch Out. Have creamed through Super Punch Out numerous times.

>> No.6049114

>>6049097
Nope, Ghouls is easier than both though

>> No.6049165

>>6043549
>unfair
>hard

lmao

>> No.6049170
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Journey To Silius. Maybe not, I just remember playing it a while ago and having a hard time on the later levels.

Also the extra mode of Kirby Adventure is a good challenge.
>If the player beats the main game with 100%, they automatically get Extra Mode as an option in the menu. In Extra Mode, Kirby has only three hit points, half as much health as normal, and his progress is not saved. If this mode is completed, the player is rewarded with the Sound Test option in the menu.

Act Raiser 2 is a hard game, you have a decent amount of moves like the flying maneuver but 80% of the screen is a bad spot to be in. I see this game as sort of acrobatic in a way that you have to practice it to execute it in a stylish fashion, that is my take on why it always shows you a demo of the player character cruising through the final level of Actraiser 1.

U.N Squadron is a side scroll shooter with good amount of options to select for your airships, great ost and variety of levels. You can even tank one or two hits if you get in trouble but eventually the game gets progressively harder and cant stop you if you don't get good.

Run Saber is a strider clone from Atlus with floaty controls but a coop mode, I remember it being kind of challenging.

Battletoads in Battlemaniacs is a HARD game.

R-Type 3 is some sort of puzzle game disguised as a side scroll shooter, you have to go through trial and error with different options and paths filled with traps and hazards.

Arcade type games like Smash TV and Total Carnage are also hard but that is to be expected.

Prince of Persia can get a little confusing and you need to know the limits of every movement available.

Equinox is a unique game in the SNES and kind of charming but it has a problem of perception (or maybe it's just me) from the isometric view and the platforming.

>> No.6049878

>>6049101
Shit, I wasn't thinking. I meant to say punchout is another example where the nes version is more challenging

>> No.6049898

I never beat Aero the Acrobat.

>> No.6049901

>>6049165
OP never said anything about unfair, stop projecting

>> No.6049970

Cybernoid is a very tough NES game.

>> No.6049992

>>6049101
Lol imagine not being able to complete punch out blindfolded.