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6022656 No.6022656 [Reply] [Original]

Why the original Silent Hill never got a modern remake like many other PS1 classics? With movie based on it bringing new fans to the series and old fans hating the American made games you'd think that would be an easy choice to please everyone.

There are even two games, Origins and Shattered Memories that feel like they have started development as SH1 remakes, but ended up going in a different direction.

>> No.6022687

Why would you want one?

>> No.6022690

>>6022656
Because remaking good games for mouth breathing retards who want things to be prettier is how you get soulless

>> No.6022706

There exists visual novel remake of first SH on Gameboy Advance

>> No.6022712
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6022712

>>6022656
But there's already a perfectly good pc conversion put together by silentscape that you can play right now partner

>> No.6022779

>>6022706
it had a fan port to PC too

>> No.6022895

>>6022656
>please everyone
Not ever going to happen. Also this remake shit needs too stop already

>> No.6022915

>>6022656
>Why the original Silent Hill never got a modern remake like many other PS1 classics?
Because Konami is a shitter. I don't need a remake though, a proper PC release would be enough, similar to MGS's PC port.

>> No.6022924

>>6022656
Konami is dead so this ship sailed long ago. This was the best one but they'd probably fuck up a remake anyway. Besides, I think the shitty PS1 graphics give it an even more unnerving feeling anyway. Like something this old and shitty looking should not be creeping me out like this.

>> No.6022927

>>6022656
Didn't they lose the original final build of the source code? I know they lost the final build source code of SH2 and look how much of a disaster the HD remaster ended up.

>> No.6022974

>>6022924
>Besides, I think the shitty PS1 graphics give it an even more unnerving feeling anyway.
I think so too and a lot of other people also say this. It helped give some basic things like just walls and floors a really unique look.

>> No.6022982

>>6022895
>Also this remake shit needs too stop already
Yes. Even just official ports fuck things up in the process and always seem to end up worse than the original. I wouldn't mind seeing how some older games would work in virtual reality though, especially Silent Hill.

>> No.6022989

>>6022712
The torrent link from their site doesn't have any seeds and the one from PirateBay gives a decompression error then crashes when I try to install :(

>> No.6022992
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6022992

>>6022779
>freeware of konami's IP
konami hasn't killed it yet

>> No.6023006

>>6022989
It's just PS1 rom running without emulator on PC, not a real ported version, you can get the same experience with ePSX

>> No.6023045

>>6023006
Yeah it actually installed most of the files anyway and I saw it had ePSXe in the folder. That's what I used anyway.

>> No.6023095
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6023095

>>6023006
>PS1 rom running without emulator on PC

>> No.6023097

>>6022656
Isn't Shattered Memories technically a remake though?

>> No.6023103

>>6023095
It's running on emulator that is hidden within game's files, so you don't have to actually set it up

>> No.6023119

>>6023103
said "without emulator"

>> No.6023141

>>6023119
I think he just meant it's already included and automatically runs it, not that there's no emulation involved at all

>> No.6023315

>>6022779
Wasn't that just the PS1 version bundled with an emulator?

>> No.6023775

>>6023315
Yeah, it's basically just a preconfigured ePSXe with the ROM included.

>> No.6023796

>>6022656
>Shattered Memories

Now there's a piece of shit. What a waste of Forty Bucks. Fucking hit my hand on a stone chimney waving my arms like a faggot trying to get those naked pink things off of me.

>> No.6023803

>>6022712
Ha... Partner.

>> No.6023806

>>6023097
Fuck No.

>> No.6023828

>>6022656
>There are even two games, Origins and Shattered Memories that feel like they have started development as SH1 remakes, but ended up going in a different direction.
Or they just ran out of ideas and began rehashing. Seems to happen with any game series that goes on for more than just a few games.

>> No.6024069

>>6023775
>preconfigured ePSXe

why

why the fuck would anyone

>> No.6024079

>>6024069
I've seen some people say they won't bother figuring out how to set up an emulator :/

>> No.6024087

>>6022982
I'm surprised there isn't a Jumping Flash! VR.

>> No.6024089

Silent Hill 1 Level Viewer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot74iWmVgwY

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RP5WCH0ZjfS8JS4cJIMdX_BGKtGbmx4P/view

>> No.6024154

>>6022656
Shattered Memories actually started off as its own Silent Hill game, but the developer studio heard that Konami was looking to do a modern remake of SH1, so they retooled their game pitch to appease them.

>> No.6024185

>>6022656
After the moderate success of the movies in the west, Konami thought it would be a good idea to whore out the franchise. Then they decided they didn’t want to make video games anymore.

>> No.6024205

>>6024089
Thank you for this

>> No.6024316

>>6022656
I'd be happy with a proper PC version.

>> No.6024449

>>6024316
You can run PS1 emulator on 15 years old PC

>> No.6024830

>>6022656
what if they released Silent Hill the director cut, similar to SH2
you can get to play with Cybil in her own scenario based on the events of SH visual novel on GBA (which included a Cybil Scenario)

>> No.6025004

This thread. It has been fortold by Gyromancy

>> No.6025090
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6025090

>>6022656
So, what's your favourite song from SH1?
Mine's still: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBxsxtOxRus
It really reminds me of the Twin Peaks intro.
Also, shout-outs to this song too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAEqmp1yfpM I always listen to this song when it snows.

>> No.6025105

>>6024830
Thanks for the idea, but we think Pachinko Silent Hill is better.

>> No.6025110

>>6022690
>using soulless meme
>not being a retard
Nice try kid.

>> No.6025220

>>6025090
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVCDvUJXxUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDgjTP8fuz4

>> No.6025252

>>6025090
>>6025220
Why is SH1 so comfy, bros?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFxMviounH8

>> No.6026436

>>6022656
It would be casualized action trash masquerading as survival horror just like DEmake 2

>> No.6027029

>>6026436
Cringe

>> No.6027068
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6027068

>>6026436
>so obsessed he has to bring up an unrelated not retro game on a retro board to rile people up
>Demake
lol

>> No.6027089

>>6022656
I recently watched the first two Twin Peaks seasons and was absolutely blown away by all the references Silent Hill makes to it. Both visually and story wise. For instance the Town's dark demonic undercurrent, secret drug trafficking, murder of a young woman, multiple names are taken from the show and its actors and bunch of scenes would serve as direct inspiration for a bunch of stuff. I could go on and on, but It just makes me appreciate SH1 even more than before.

>> No.6027265

>>6025090
https://youtu.be/t7iskKJSFFI

The results screen music, not sure if it’s got a proper title.

>> No.6028893

Bump

>> No.6028949

>>6022656
If you'd like a remake into a Pachislot game, that can happen, anything else is a pipe dream, Konami is dead.

>> No.6029019

>>6027068
He's 100% right

>> No.6029161

>>6025110
Go play your RE2make granpa

>> No.6030351

>>6027068
>unrelated not retro game
This thread is about ps1 remakes, and survival horror at that you absolute fucking trog

>> No.6030576

>>6022712

Never heard of it

>> No.6030591

>>6030576
As people have already said it's not conversion or port, just emulated ps1 game you can run without installing emulator

>> No.6032567

>>6023097
More of a "reimagining" than an actual remake. Way too linear, and the lack of combat is sorely felt. They also turned Harry into a borderline retard.

>> No.6032571

>>6022656
While I'm not really a huge fan of videogame remakes, I think this is one case where bringing the surreal horror aesthetic up to modern graphical standards could be pretty damn cool.

>> No.6032785

>>6032571
I don't know, like other people have said the PS1 graphics seem to add something to it that would be lost with a remake. Some parts of 2-4 looked good but I would say overall not as "vivid" as SH1.

>> No.6032945
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6032945

>>6025090
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWZ8SxWkIVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_wblVo-y9A

>> No.6033219
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6033219

Finished the game for the first time and I got the bad ending which kinda sucked and I'm not sure I got the story. I used 3 continues so I don't know if that factors in, but I looked up the sidequests and I fucked up Kaufmann's by not noticing that you could push a piece of furniture in Indian Runner.
I saved over several slots so I still have a save at the sewers. Can I get the good ending completing Kaufmann's sidequest?

>> No.6033235

>>6033219
You got the red liquid too?

>> No.6033236

>>6033235
I have a bottle filled with some red liquid in the inventory, yes.

>> No.6033245

>>6033236
Did you save her?

>> No.6033246

>>6033245
Who?

>> No.6033250

>>6033246
Cybil.

>> No.6033253

>>6033250
I shot the shit out of her. I was supposed to use the red liquid?

>> No.6033258

>>6033253
If you wanted to. It affects the ending.

>> No.6033262

>>6033250
Also I didn't get if the otherworld was just in Harry's head until some point or not. When you go to the lighthouse he remarks that it feels different, like reality becoming a nightmare instead of shifting into it or something like that. I really feel fuzzy about the overarching plot

>> No.6033380

>>6033262
Silent Hill 1 really benefits from replaying to fully grasp the story IMO. It purposely keeps you in the dark about a lot of it until later in the game, and replaying it once you know the end changes it a lot.

>> No.6033401

>>6033380
I don't really feel like replaying the entire game right now as I've actually played it several times but never to completion until now (furthest I got was the light house I think) so I know the beginning pretty well. I'll try getting the good ending from an earlier save, though. Hope it'll make more sense since I'd really like to be all set for SH3.

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6034943

>>6032945
>Killing Time
Wait, so that russian rap song was actually sampled from a Silent Hill soundtrack?

>> No.6035027

>>6033401
There are 5 endings in SH
Good+ ending
Good ending
Bad+ ending
Bad ending
UFO ending

>> No.6035174

>>6032945
>Otherside
my muthafuckin nigga!

>> No.6035334

I just finished this game for the first time ever and got the good ending. Pretty cool, I really enjoyed it.

>> No.6035654

>>6024079
ePSXe is one of the easiest emulators to configure, if we’re not including sprite consoles like SNES and Game Boy, brainlets...

>> No.6035659

Someone post the pc guide please

>> No.6035773

>>6025090
You posted my favorite one but my favorite spooky song from SH1 is this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5s5s_30n_s

>> No.6035775

>>6027265
It does it is called Eternal Rest.

>> No.6036502
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6036502

>>6035659
SH1 NTSC DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!bVUCTJzD!PmnPw4S7fWGyvTjw9S0-RQdk7rRp2BQNuXJqRkZCZvk

SH2 DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!rFcj1SIJ!47JH9M4OrzmQKuaiJ6IqUgmgz_SVNtk4LIYNSa-D-_8

SH2 torrent:
https://mega.nz/#!bYcEnbhC!rYnhvcJiRC46T6yExS0Y61JHZ-5N3WxFvfZMI8xbyhE

>SH2 PC fixes site:
http://widescreenfix.townofsilenthill.com/SH2/
>tl;dr how to install this shit video tutorial:
https://youtu.be/fFVwI487ORo

SH3 DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!2JNkgJ7b!nfPf5cIs6I5K-sdAs7RcnHvGA2hAvIGdpQuIoBhF3iE

SH3 torrent:
https://mega.nz/#!GVVGRLpD!SyklVbuLIkc38ZYji5QL3sWHKtHt9-Bto700My8pH7c

SH4 DDL:
https://mega.nz/#!Us1XTaII!cglH0dZOaH5yQEm4cnEh3eyUz4bIf6rACQqcVzkb4Hc

Mount the ISOs of 2 & 3, and then run their installers like always.
DON'T use W10's own virtual disc app! Don't install under C:\Program Files\ !
The SH1 is a PS1 rip that you gotta emulate.

Follow the SH2 widescreen fix site's instructions to the teeth, and you should be fine.
For 3 & 4, check the Guide.


>Protips
-Play in the release order
-Never play below Normal difficulty
-Replaying them all is recommended
-Turn down the ingame Brightness setting
-Don't try to kill everything that moves, especially outdoors
-Turning OFF the flashlight can really help

>> No.6038587

>>6036502
thanks!

>> No.6038606

>>6022656
>With movie based on it bringing new fans to the series and old fans hating the American made games you'd think that would be an easy choice to please everyone.
Just read very carefully what you just said.
What you are describing is literally the worst-case scenario.

The film was awful. The western games were terrible. Modern-day remakes / reboots of all games have been disgusting as fuck.

Leave Silent Hill alone. Let it rest in peace, sick fuck.

>> No.6039291

>>6022656
It doesn't need one. Every remake is shit anyways. Make something new.

>> No.6039304

>>6022656
>old fans hating the American made games
Literally one two of the Silent Hill games are American, being Homecoming and Book of Memories.

Origins and Shattered Memories are British.
Downpour is Czech.
>There are even two games, Origins and Shattered Memories that feel like they have started development as SH1 remakes, but ended up going in a different direction.
Origins was explicitly never an SH1 remake. They pretended it was an SH1 remake because Konami had plans to greenlight a remake of SH1, and Climax realised they get their game greenlit by pretending it was a remake of SH1. They were very careful to never let Konami discover the game's true nature during development, and didn't remove combat from the game until Konami ended up in internal turmoil and they could get away with it.

This is why Shattered Memories is so kino.

As for Origins, that was always a prequel. But it was originally a very different game. Climax UK only had a year to rework a completely different game into Origins, and they did a breathtaking job under the circumstances.

Adding to this, Silent Hill has a deeply fractured fanbase. Remember that the Japanese think SH2 is shit. But most SH2 fans have never played SH1.

>> No.6039306

>>6039304
>and they did a breathtaking job under the circumstances.
It was still one of the shittiest games in the whole series, and a complete, utter lore-rape.

>Remember that the Japanese think SH2 is shit.
Source on that?

>most SH2 fans have never played SH1.
that's sad if true.

>> No.6039309

Silent Hill has no identity beyond ripping off popular American and British horror. This has plagued its attempts to innovate and tell interesting stories. It's a vacuum of originality and purpose. Its only merit being a so-so videogame retread of stories told better by other mediums in the past. Shattered Memories was the only Silent Hill that did something actually interesting with the videogame medium Silent Hill works in. Also PT if you count that.

Gonna be interesting to see how the new Silent Hill turns out.

>> No.6039314

>>6039306
>It was still one of the shittiest games in the whole series, and a complete, utter lore-rape.
Complete nonsense. It's a far better game than SH1, at the very least, and the very definition of a well done prequel.
>Source on that?
The art designer's twitter account. SH2 sold so badly in Japan they almost turned SH3 into a rail shooter in an attempt to save the series. SH2 has never been popular in Japan. Only weebs like it.

>> No.6039323

>>6039314
>Complete nonsense. It's a far better game than SH1, at the very least
No, it goddamn hell is not.
SH1 is still the UNDENIABLE peak of the series.
Origins is a complete and utter mockery towards the whole saga. Nothing good about that literal piece of shit, that already channels The Movie in every corner.

>SH2 sold so badly in Japan they turned 3 into rail shooter
Are you sure you've read those statements right?

>only weebs like it
take your stupid Ieddit memes with you.

>> No.6039327

>>6039304
Origins was announced in 2006 as SH1 remake for PSP called the Original Sin

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2006/04/3596/

>> No.6039335

>>6039314
>It's a far better game than SH1,
You are out of your fucking mind.

>the very definition of a well done prequel.
It is the polar opposite, cake boy.

>> No.6039339

>>6039323
>>SH2 sold so badly in Japan they turned 3 into rail shooter
>Are you sure you've read those statements right?
What are you talking about? That's literally what happened to SH2. It tanked in Japan, and Konami pushed for SH3 to be a rail shooter. The rail shooter got pivoted into that arcade game, but the series never recovered from SH2.

>> No.6039341

>>6039327
We know what Original Sin was. We have the entire plot outline and everything. The opening and ending FMVs in Origins came from Original Sin because Konami were cheapskates who wouldn't give them the budget to make new FMVs. It was always a prequel.

>> No.6039342

>>6039335
>>6039306
SH1 has aged like milk. Origins is a better game. One of the best in the series, in fact. Deal with it.

>> No.6039347

>>6039339
Japs hated the entire "personal hell" bullshit of SH2.

>> No.6039360

>>6039342
>SH1 has aged like milk.
False.
It is still the scariest one of the whole series, has the best pacing, best town-design, and in general coins everything the series is known for.

>Origins is a better game
It's clunky, fugly, makes no fucking sense, and just throws in all the most generic Yank crap one can think of.

Only DP and BoM are truly worse SH games than 0.
You better deal with it by sucking off a loaded shotgun.

>> No.6039813

>>6039342
>aged

>> No.6039815

>>6039309
>Shattered Memories was the only Silent Hill that did something actually interesting with the videogame medium
How?

>> No.6039859

>>6039342
You aged, the game did not you fat fuck

>> No.6041595

>>6039815
Not him, but the way the game adapts to your behavior is pretty sweet ... and end results may get frighteningly accurate.

>> No.6041824

>>6032945
>>6025252
>>6025220
>>6025090
Make way for the best
https://youtu.be/rah74j6IX3k

>> No.6042337

>>6022924
>>6022974
The Jagged geometry and super pixelated textures help alleviate the whole suspension of disbelief because everything looks so strange and dreamlike- you know what every polygonal structure is supposed to be but you also know it looks nothing like real life which so many games strive to do today, it’s not about realistic graphics it’s about theme and substance and Silent Hill having those PS1 Jagged graphics and compressed audio is the best part of it

>> No.6042386

>>6042337
Agreed. Its one of the rare instances where a games technical limitations are a vital aspect of its appeal. Its a minor miracle that SH2 (and 3) managed to retain that "fear of the unknown" feeling on better hardware by using supplementary effects like film grain, better looking fog, light casting and sound design.

Its real a shame they have failed to recapture what made SH1 so gat dang scary on newer platforms but I guess there are only so many times you can reuse the same core aesthetic before a game formula gets stale and are forced to try something new.

>> No.6042412

>>6042386
The problem with SH going forward was the games started to get really expensive to make so niche horror games that were not mainstream friendly were not considered market viable and that forced komoney to try and convert the games into these half assed house of thrills jump scares and action sequence games

>> No.6042479

>>6039306
>>most SH2 fans have never played SH1.
>that's sad if true.
It's obvious this is the case if you pay attention to how some people talk about SH. Someone will ask "explain how the town works" and multiple people will say "it's a magic town that attracts guilty people and etc." because they haven't played any of the other games. It really is a shame because even though I like 2 it just didn't play as well as 1 in some ways, and 1's story is just as fantastic.

>> No.6042514

>>6042412
I agree that is a big part of it, specifically as to how Konami has been bungling it lately (claims they cant make money with regular games anymore) but I'm talking more broadly about the visual language of modern horror games. Its hard to make something convincingly scary when it rests in an uncanny graphical valley between hyper real and abstract.

This is just my experience but when it looks too clean I have a hard time accepting the game world because it looks like everything else and any animation or texture imperfections stand out like a sore thumb when compared to the world but if the whole game looks gritty I have an easier time accepting it.

I can only think of a small handfull of games from the last 20 years that genuinely scared me and it was solely because of the games art direction and cleaver use of technology.

>> No.6042613

>>6042479
They are not wrong, you know, SH 2 has pretty much retconed SH1's explanation for Otherworld. It's not even a bad thing, because it leaves room for sequels

>> No.6042665

>>6039304
>But most SH2 fans have never played SH1.
What? I thought SH1 is a classic.
And SH1 is better than SH2.

>> No.6042676

>>6042665
SH2 is generally regarded as an all-time great/must-play while Silent Hill gets shunned for bad controls and puzzles. Obviously that's fucking stupid, but that's how it is.

>> No.6042685

>>6042613
They're not wrong if they're only talking about SH2 but it seems odd to think SH2 is such a great game and then never play any of the others in the series and stay misinformed. Only 2 out of 1-4 uses that version of it too.

>> No.6043109

It shouldn't have one. The entire visual aesthetic of the original silent hill is playing off limitations of the PS1 hardware, it's a showcase for the system and if you upgraded the graphics to modern hardware, it would lose part of its appeal.

>> No.6044123

>>6042676
Why do they think that way?

>> No.6044139

>>6044123
Why do people like Silent Hill to begin with.
Perhaps therein lies an answer to your particular question.

>> No.6045290

Masterpiece
Perhaps the best game ever created.

>> No.6045297

>>6044123
My guess would be most of them played SH2 first and then didn't want to adjust to what SH1 does differently. I've seen it happen with other games. Also the cult plotline seems to just make most of them go retarded and not be able to see anything else in the story, they just always sum it up as "muh cult" then go circlejerk about how SH2 is art and so deep.