/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.6022209]

What's the most autistic fact you know about a video game/series?

Weird developer rants? Development issues/quirks/fun facts? Conspiracies? Random cheat codes that do weird shit? Stuff that's seen by a niche community as so ubiquitous that it isn't documented, but outside people don't know?

Let's hear your best one!

[Anonymous No.6022220]

I think I remember seeing some hidden text in the code for Slayers on PC-98 when I looked around for fun. Nothing that interesting I saw, but stuff like the date and a short message.

There's a glitch in Final Fantasy VI that I found before I ever saw it posted online. Still not many results for it. In Cyan's Dream, you can switch the party leader during the Magitek part to keep the Magitek armor sprite outside the dream in towns/dungeons. Saving and reloading removes it, and you don't get it in battles, but it was neat.

[Anonymous No.6022225]

>>6022220
It's listed on the wiki though, so it's not that obscure really.
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Graphical_bug

[Anonymous No.6022227]

>>6022209
I know OP is most autistic

[Anonymous No.6022235]

I have a couple.

In Pokemon Red/Blue, Great Balls have a higher catch rate than the more expensive Ultra Balls in most situations.

In Super Metroid, Crocomire had no hit points and can't be damaged with beam shots or ammo alone. However, Crocomire's tongue is a separate entity and can be destroyed with Power Bombs. It takes about 95 of them, so the only way too get enough is to use glitches or the Golden Torizo code.

[Anonymous No.6022236]

>>6022209
Tilting a Sonic 3D Blast cartridge while the console is on unlocks a level select

[Anonymous No.6022242]

Not an official thing, but fan-made Pokemon gen 1 battle simulators didn't realize for years that secondary status effects like paralysis from Thunderbolt or Body slam don't effect Pokemon with the same type as the move. Correcting this small oversight a few years ago lead to some significant changes in the metagame, because paralysis from Body Slam on Normal types like Tauros, Snorlax, and Chansey was a big factor in battles. I just think it's funny that in nearly 20 years it was never noticed by people that scrutinized the mechanics the most.

[Anonymous No.6022254]

>>6022235
>In Pokemon Red/Blue, Great Balls have a higher catch rate than the more expensive Ultra Balls in most situations.
Cool, never knew that. The capture mechanics details are interesting to read about actually.
https://www.dragonflycave.com/mechanics/gen-i-capturing

Another one I didn't know:
"Lowering a Pokémon's HP below one third has no effect at all on its catch rate."

[Anonymous No.6022256]

>>6022242
I remember there was an emulator glitch back when Red and Blue was new that if you spent $600 in mart your cash wouldn't go down. So tip sites would just say in general for pokemon "buy pokeballs 3 at a time"

[Anonymous No.6022260]

In Sonic 2, if you turn Super Sonic, then use a transfer monitor in debug mode, you'll have Super Sonic's palette as normal Sonic.

[Anonymous No.6022276]

>>6022254
>"Lowering a Pokémon's HP below one third has no effect at all on its catch rate
My whole childhood was a lie!, now you're telling me that mashing the A button has no effect either?

[Anonymous No.6022326]

>>6022254
This is bullshit. I'm literally crying and shaking and pooping and cumming. My life is a lie.

[Anonymous No.6022378]

[Anonymous No.6022467]

>>6022220
>>6022225
Yeah you wanna talk obscure shit in FF6, remember when you first go to the sealed gate, and all the espers fly out and then a bunch of rocks fall in front of it? One of the rocks is for some reason glitched and doesn't appear, it's supposed to be where the circle is

[Anonymous No.6022520]

>>6022209
If you wait a few minutes after the credits of VB Wario Land “K.K.’s Song” will begin to play.

no one here believes me or cares, but my autistic claim to fame is that I was the first person to discover this and send it to NintendoDB, the first site to ever document appearances of K.K.’s Song.

[Anonymous No.6022545]

>>6022209
My uncle really worked at nintendo.

[Anonymous No.6022562]

>>6022520
That's pretty cool anon, the Totaka's Song easter eggs have always been one of my favorites

[Anonymous No.6022584]

>>6022242
So what you're saying is, in Gen 1, paralysis from Thunderbolt etc will affect Tauros but not Jolteon, but paralysis from Body Slam will affect Jolteon but not Tauros? That's a legitimate "that's bullshit but I believe it" moment right there.

[Anonymous No.6022586]

>>6022520
boop boop-boop boop boop-boop boop boop, boop, boop

boop boop-boop-boop-boop boop

boop, boop, boop

[Anonymous No.6022592]

>>6022584
That's correct.

Here's a thread from when people figured it out:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/normal-types-cannot-be-paralyzed-by-body-slam.3525371/

It was actually mentioned in the lessons in Stadium 2, not sure if any other places in the games or manuals tell you about it.

[Anonymous No.6022601]

>>6022378
It's called a stock photo. Same way you have Dooms explosions and Red Alerts Tesla Tower sounds in multiple movies and games.

[Anonymous No.6022685]

>>6022209
autism doesn't even fucking begin to describe the extent of my obsession with certain video games.

[Anonymous No.6022705]

>>6022209
For the Marathon 2: Durandal level 'My Own Private Thermopylae', the manual recommends turning the graphics settings to low if you don't have a PowerMac to avoid random glitches.

[Anonymous No.6022745]

Way too much about Plok, nothing mindblowing though.

>pic related was the intended box art, but Tradewest wasn't a fan and remade it in a claymation style

>Plok had a 30 second animation created for it by some local artists as a favor to the devs, intended for commercials. It was never aired and is now completely lost, likely for the best as apparently it wasn't that great

>the 3 "lost levels" for Plok (Brendammi Bog, Breezy Beach, Badream Fens) were never even started; the developers had a vague idea of doing X number of levels that never came to fruition. It wasn't like Sonic 2 where half-finished levels got cut

>the beta had a secret invulnerability cheat code designed specifically for the UK gaming show Bad Influence, which featured it briefly in an episode

>to promote the game, little resin Plok figurines (like the one seen in the game ending screen) were sent out to the American press. Most arrived in rubble due to bad packaging

[Anonymous No.6022782]

Doom II map 10 was an unfinished beta map from Doom

[Anonymous No.6022876]

>>6022782
>everyone is making good posts
>doomlet comes in and shits on the floore

[Anonymous No.6022918]

>>6022592
They flat-out state it in a game and people still didn't catch on for another decade and a half? Really questioning the value of autism at this point

[Anonymous No.6023142]

>>6022209
Not sure how autistic, but the Super Mario 2 USA beta had a fuckin sick underground theme, in my opinion the best rendition of the underground theme on the NES if not in general.

https://youtu.be/IPvDUWAN9Gs

[Anonymous No.6023160]

>>6022876
Every enemy in doom has a butthole for you to kick

[Anonymous No.6023180]

>>6023142
this is nasty.

[Anonymous No.6023183]

>>6023142
That's really cool, shame it wasn't used. The only interesting thing I know about Super Mario Bros 2 is that it's a reskin of a Japanese game called Magical Hat no Buttobi Tābo! Daibōken.

[Anonymous No.6023297]

Probably that Yume Kojo (event and namesake of Yume Kojo: Doki Doki Panic) intently and officially translates to Dream Machine (and thus Dream Machine: Doki Doki Panic), using the purest definition of "machine", ie, "something used to create". This is why there is a device in the game called in katakana and officially internationally, the "Dream Machine." Pic very related.

[Anonymous No.6023308]

>>6023142
>>6023183
They used it in Super Mario All-Stars for 1, 3 and Lost Levels.

[Anonymous No.6023318]

>>6022209
Ratchet: Deadlocked (or Gladiator) was originally going to have alternate weapon upgrades, and your Robotic companions have legs. In the demo version of the game features a different HUD, too.

It's a shame we didn't have the alternate weapon upgrades, but the hovering companions is a better change from what I know.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5tUfp0BUI0

[Anonymous No.6023319]

>>6023308
Not the sped up part

[Anonymous No.6023323]

>>6022685
Which ones?

[Anonymous No.6023728]

>>6023323
Games, probably

[Anonymous No.6023734]

>>6022236
The game's programmer actually made a video about this: https://invidio.us/watch?v=i9bkKw32dGw

[Anonymous No.6023736]

The fucked up high-pitched and even out of pitch music in the Game Boy version of Mega Man 2 is due to a programming error.

[Princess Sevenleaf !IT2uZpX.Ic No.6023746]

>>6023736
Oh gosh, really? Is there a rom hack that fixes it?

[Anonymous No.6023751]

>>6023746
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/4695/

[Anonymous No.6023752]

Posted this before, but in Links Awakening if you complete the seashell mansion and get the L2 sword before entering Catfish’s Maw, the ghost never spawns. I’m going to try to get 20 seashells next time while I have the ghost and see what happens when I get the L2 sword at the same time.

[Anonymous No.6023762]

>>6022276
Mate it was Up +B

[Anonymous No.6023781]

>>6023751
There really is a ROM hack for everything now, isn't there? Pretty sick.

[Anonymous No.6023802]

>>6022209
Evolution: The World of Sacred Device was originally for the Sega Saturn before getting bumped up to the Dreamcast. There ARE a few sources that mention this, but the game was previewed in the Japanese Sega Saturn Magazine, which also had a whole bunch of rare concept art. The game and its sequel also had a series of gag comics run in the magazine for a surprisingly lengthy amount of time (the majority of which were reprinted in the sequel's strategy guide). The sequel's website even has fanart that references a few of those comics.
Speaking of concept art there's artwork of both the female lead (Linear Cannon) and the male lead (Mag Launcher) in kimonos; while Linear's is used in quite a few places, Mag's is seemingly only used in one of the Dreamcast/Saturn magazine scans.

[Anonymous No.6023958]

>>6023762
Up+A while the ball is being cast into Down+B while it wiggles.

[Anonymous No.6024116]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v74LGqo7ZwY
In mission 7 of the zerg campaign in Starcraft Brood War you need to destroy a protoss city to capture their matriarch.
To accomplish that you need to destroy 5 pylon clusters located around the city in a star pattern to get rid of the barrier protecting the whole area.
This is a direct reference to Sailor Moon, where Black Moon Clan destroys Crystal Tokyo and corrupts the 5 crystal points which protect it, with the goal of capturing the Queen Serenity.

[Princess Sevenleaf !IT2uZpX.Ic No.6024528]

>>6023751
That's.... incredible, woah. It's actually bearable to listen to now, I never would have guessed the fix could be something this simple.

[Anonymous No.6024553]

>>6023752
Weird. I wonder what it could be that’s triggering that glitch.

[Anonymous No.6024562]

>>6023751
anybody know if there is an archive/torrent of every romhacking.net download? I want to collect them all just in case of failure, but they have human verification now to prevent bots from mass-connecting (assuming). A torrent for this would be swell.

[Anonymous No.6024612]

>>6024116
Gonna need source on that "direct reference" part, since 5-point star shaped castles and forts exist in the real world for obvious defensive reasons.

[Anonymous No.6024615]

>>6024562
Perhaps you can work with about 30 people to get that done. Or ask some people for help.

[Anonymous No.6024667]

>>6024615
sound advice, but I have enough projects right now. I suppose I'll see if anybody else has tried it first, or contact the site operators.

[Anonymous No.6024683]

>>6024667
Good idea either way.

[Anonymous No.6025905]

>>6022209
The treasures that you dig in FF9 Hot & Cold are (hidden) barrels.

[Anonymous No.6026212]

>>6022209
In Ape Escape 2 or 3 (I think 2 but I forget) there's a beach level with a soda can with a face on it. The soda can is from the game Space Fisherman.

[Anonymous No.6026739]

>>6022209
In Twisted Metal Black, there is a secret special attack which will make one of the characters, Raven (driver of Shadow), do a turret style attack, popping up from the roof of her car and shoot at enemies with a machinegun.
There's two ways to do this attack, the normal way, and the secret way, where she'll do it with her titties out (which is funny because she's 17 and thus underage).
This isn't widely documented last I checked, in fact I had to really dig around to find the code and any mention of it, one place even wrote the wrong input, which almost certainly made people think it was fake.
I think it's so unknown that it might still be in the later digital rereleases (which sadly, all lack the wonderfully super edgy cutscenes), there's zero mention of this on wikis.

>>6022876
Your mom eats my ass.
The Revenant in Doom 2 was originally meant to do a little hop every time he fired a rocket, which was always homing.
This goes in line with John Romero's insistence on the final visual design of the Revenant, because he thought it would be really funny. It's known that their rockets aren't always homing, this is because of a mistake in the code which makes the checks based on if it happens on an even or odd tic. In some of the old console releases, this is fixed and the rockets always home in, though most would say the random element was better.

>>6023142
I remember hearing this. I'm ultimately very fond of the music they finally went with though.

[Anonymous No.6026751]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9oByTUQjCFg
The infamous Farting Clowns In A Basement track in Resident Evil : Director's Cut probably had the wrong instrument set applied. Swapping it for something more suitable, it actually sounds perfectly fine.

[Anonymous No.6026813]

Some of the sprays in the original Jet Set Radio were changed for the international release. Then some of those were changed to new sprays for the HD release. Pretty sure the one with the guy smoking a joint was censored too.

[Anonymous No.6026816]

>>6026739
Twisted Metal black isn't retro, and super blurry images screams fake. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.6026835]

>>6023734
I've heard how BS the console approval process can be from retro and modern devs so I'm glad at least one dude found a way to hack it a bit

[Anonymous No.6026861]

>>6022876
Doomguy wears a glove to fire the pistol that magically comes off for punching

[Anonymous No.6026881]

>>6022876
Doomguy doesn't actually wear tan gloves, the lumps on his wrists are just babyfat

[Anonymous No.6027487]

Pikmin 2 is one of my favourite games and sequels.

It takes place pretty much straight after the first game however seeing as it takes place on a planet that is far away the landscape has changed quite a lot.

The final level is the first and last level of first game mixed together.

Aside from plenty of references to the past game the final dungeon is located where you find your first piece of broken ship from the first game.

I always thought this was a real nice and subtle touch.

[Anonymous No.6028109]

>>6026816
One of these days I'll get some video of it, nerd.

>>6026881
It's not fat, it's just melanoma.

[Anonymous No.6028123]

>>6026751
Yeah, the corrected version sounds a bit based and, dare I say, epic?

[Anonymous No.6028139]

>>6028123
No, you dare not.

[Anonymous No.6028538]

>>6023762
>>6023958

My theory was:

Super Ball: yellow health, + B

Ultra Ball: red health, + A

[Anonymous No.6028841]

I memorized all the enemy and objective locations in Medal of Honor to the point where even if the game gets the weird glitch where the map doesn't render in completely I still complete the level with an excellent rating. The developers originally planned to have gore and blood but it was removed probably to get a safer rating.

In the SOTN port of Saturn there is a lengthy text file from the developers explaining their roles and also expressing how much of a slut it was to port from the PS1 to the Saturn and basically apologizing for being inexperienced but tried to add some fresh things to make it different from the PSX version. They fucked up so bad that, instead of optimizing for the higher resolution, they doubled every 3rd or 4th pixel which stretches all the sprites and background EXCEPT the ones exclusive to the Saturn because they were added post stretching. Alucard also gets a set of boots to run as fast as Richter and the Wing Smash in Bat Form does not have a distance limit allowing you to fly across rooms till you hit a wall or the door to the next room. The Cursed Prison is accessible so early on you gain a broken level of XP from the enemies by just killing them with the bible.

If you deposit 1,000 pokemon from Gen4 into MyPokemonRanch on the Wii you can get a legit Mew that is fully transferrable up to Gen 7, however it will never be Shiny.

On the back cover of Driver: You Are The Wheelman is a Saturn Yellow 1970 Buick GSX that was seen in replays on the Euro Demo Disc #43, it was overwritten with the Chevelle in Miami. In this beta build you could even drive and sink into the ocean. The animation for sinking cars stills exists in the New York level.

The voice of Chris in the original Resident Evil is the same voice as Richter Belmont in SOTN on PS1. He sadly died in a car accident which is a shame because I loved his goofy voice acting.

If you say "playstation" into the mic in Hey You! Pikachu, Pikachu will use thunderbolt on you.

[Anonymous No.6028857]

>>6028841
>The voice of Chris in the original Resident Evil is the same voice as Richter Belmont in SOTN on PS1. He sadly died in a car accident which is a shame because I loved his goofy voice acting.
That always makes me sad. I'm very attached to the voices he did.
I actually really like all the voices in SoTN, because even with the wonky Enlish translation, and presumably having to act out lines in a vacuum, not getting to play of each other or really see the game, they do still sound kinda good, if awkward, the actual voices they do feel appropriate for their characters.
Dracula's voice actor just hams it up, which feels like the most suitable course of action, and actually fits the character.

>If you say "playstation" into the mic in Hey You! Pikachu, Pikachu will use thunderbolt on you.
Lol, is that true?

[Anonymous No.6028864]

>>6022209
its possible to get knight 3 without ever entering the underground in wizards and warriors 3. Iv never seen it mentioned anywhere, and it doesnt help with any speed run categories. I still found it interesting

[Anonymous No.6028904]

>>6028857
I tested the "playstation" thunderbolt trigger multiple times on my N64 with the original cart and VRU mic adapter, worked pretty much every time.

based and sony shitpostingpilled

[Anonymous No.6028956]

>>6026751
Reminds me of >>6023736

[Anonymous No.6029032]

>>6028904
Points for a funny easteregg. Any other unusual stuff you can tell him?

[Anonymous No.6029037]

This one wasn't documented until very recently. The PC-Engine release of Ryuuko no Ken has nearly the entire source code along with other developer assets stored in the code track. I guess because whatever mastering software they used was really autistic and decided to use large fragments of the development machine's hard drive as padding.

[Anonymous No.6029038]

I know I mentioned this before in a similar thread, but there's a REALLY obscure bug/easter egg in LttP. If you use one of the medallions (Ether, I think) while standing outside of the entrance to the forest grove, then ram the tree on the right, a weird glitchy object will fall out. Sometimes it looks like a mess of pixels, while other times it'll use the top half of Blind's human sprite. I've only seen it mentioned on the internet once.

[Anonymous No.6029057]

>>6028857
if you're interested in voiced the protagonist of another PS1 survival horror: The Note

[Anonymous No.6029084]

>>6023297
That very clearly says "Dream Factory", brother. Not "machine".

[Anonymous No.6029131]

>>6028538
Well, you were about on the money with Great Balls.
>>6029038
Gonna try it and see if I can't get a video of it.

[Anonymous No.6029232]

>>6022584
Seems to be a simple error resulting from "Poison Pokemon cannot be poisoned, fire pokemon can't be burned etc etc etc". Just made a simple "If attack type = enemy type, ignore secondary effect" bit of code that caused the oddity.

[Anonymous No.6031697]

>>6022378
good god the cropping on the girl on the right

[Anonymous No.6031702]

>>6022745
Plok also has a comic going on
http://www.zee-3.com/plok/index.php?comic=976

[Anonymous No.6031775]

>>6028841
>>6028857
>>6028904
>>6029032
If you say "Nintendo" to Seaman he tells you to shove Pikachu up your ass.

[Anonymous No.6031782]

>>6031775
Seaman always grossed me out, everything about seaman is just gross and unpleasant.

[Anonymous No.6031813]

>>6031775
>>6031782
That's deliberate. Seaman is very thoughtful and deliberate in general.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD7JYqty8aE&t=44m37s

[Anonymous No.6032106]

>>6022209
Caesar III manual
>what the fuck is this shit?

[Anonymous No.6032116]

>>6022260
There was also Super Tails which is a mess of gargabe graphics.

[Anonymous No.6032150]

>>6023142
I always liked unused music in games. Sometimes they're pretty cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBsacQHinFA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NcAkgXQrNI