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[Anonymous No.6020330]

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>6010915

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR


Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4

Launchers for Build Engine games
http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
https://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

[Anonymous No.6020331]

=== ONGOING ===

/vr/ Heretic Mapping Project
-Currently looking for mappers, testers, and anyone else who can help.
-Project Discord server: https://discord.gg/BBPnHM8

=== NEWS ===

[11-17] ZSDF editor anon releases AceToolkit
https://gitlab.com/accensi/acetoolkit

[11-17] Shrine, a total conversion for Doom II
https://www.moddb.com/mods/shrine

[11-15] Triune Discovery and Jump Boots for Quake have released
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61791

[11-13] Andy Olivera steps down from maintaining DSDA, new site available
http://doomedsda.us/news.html
https://dsdarchive.com/

[11-12] ZMovement 3.0 released earlier this month
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=65095

[11-12] D4T 2.5 slated for a November 16th release
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=122klRWFl5A

[11-14] Death Wish for Blood updated to 1.6.8
https://www.moddb.com/mods/death-wish-for-blood

[11-6] DBP17 RC2 released, an Aliens-themed mapset
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/110070-dbp17-alone/

[11-4] MORTIS, a gameplay mod
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=66279

[11-4] BlooM, a Doom/Blood crossover
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=66261

[11-4] GMOTA 1.3 scheduled for the 15th this month
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIACyDExUj8&feature=youtu.be

[11-2] Kinsie releases a WIP of 'Deathmatch Simulator'
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=66264&sid=3421fd12811cbd9c13bc2ff851980cae

[10-31] Quake Halloween Jam 2 out now
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61786

[10-31] Doom 4 Vanilla v2.3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH4bU3wWAXI

[10-29] Guncaster Vindicated updated to 3.2.0
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eD8gPMaGc7E

[10-29] Guncaster updates to 3.5.7
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=37066&sid=69353dbf78756b18deee151bc797cd60

[10-28] New Blood addon 'Fleshed Out'
https://www.moddb.com/mods/blood-fleshed-out/downloads/fleshed-out-1-0

=== PREVIOUS ===

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[Anonymous No.6020348]

>>6020330
oh god the artifacting on that image

[Anonymous No.6020350]

Second for the BETTER Doom game
fuck you >>6020348

[Anonymous No.6020353]

>>6020348
do you even understand what the word means?
because that isn't whats happening in the op image.

[Anonymous No.6020362]

>>6020350
Quake is amazing, but Doom is even more amazinger.
You're basically asking me to choose between cake and pie though.

[Anonymous No.6020378]

>>6020330
H E R E ' S A B I G W A U R N

[Anonymous No.6020449]

>>6020330
Who did the OP picture? I want to shake their neck

[Anonymous No.6020451]

>>6020362
After I tried Quake, replaying the original Doom levels made me feel as if I was only shooting cannon fodder. Doom 2 is about as spongy as Quake is, but the enemies aren't nearly as threatening.

[Anonymous No.6020562]

Is there a market for retro-style fps games? How did Ion Fury do?

I'm thinking about making my own (even spending $10k on it as well). Anyone have any ideas that they would like to see in a retro-fps?

[Anonymous No.6020617]

>>6020562
make something that resembles a game, then bother talking about it

[Anonymous No.6020631]

Look at what Amid Evil, REKKR and Rise of the Wool Ball did.
Do that.
Look at what other steam indie-fps try to do.
Don't do that.

[Anonymous No.6020639]

>>6020631
>Rise of the Wool Ball

I really enjoyed that TC and its sequel. I thought it was total BS that none of them got a golden cacodemon award. They totally deserved it.

>Look at what other steam indie-fps try to do.

Any that you'd care to recommend I look at to learn not to do?

[Anonymous No.6020642]

>>6020562
Keep in mind IF was made by a team of many guys with years and years of experience. Start small and work your way up.

[Anonymous No.6020643]

Playing Memento Mori MAP19: Maltraiter. This crusher is supposed to top out at the ceiling, but pic related is the highest it goes.
Bug?

[Anonymous No.6020664]

>>6020330
to repeat an anon from the last thread

>AD is the most fun I've had playing shooters in years. I'm a zoomer who has never played quake multiplayer. The sp was kino but ad is 11/10.

agree?

[Anonymous No.6020726]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXY4egXZjBY

[Anonymous No.6020737]

>>6020726
holy shit the crackling is bad

[Anonymous No.6020770]

>>6020639
>Other indies that do bad things
STRAFE or that redneck pyramid thing - Why roguelikes and autogen levels end up with bland feeling gameplay.

Anything that lets you make/craft your own weapons (tower of guns, but I'm sure there's a ton more). A well designed set of weapons for different situations will feel better than running around with a toolbox.

>Random advice
Don't be afraid to not have a gun perfect for every single situation. Some play styles won't mesh well with your game and players will use a gun that feels like shit if it's optimal.
If you have a shotgun (or equivalent) for any reason don't fuck it up, especially a double barrel. Old fps' have the best shotguns.

[Anonymous No.6020779]

>>6020643
What port are you playing it on?

[Anonymous No.6020787]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6FNrcrqmbI

Kino

[Anonymous No.6020801]

>>6020639
Do not do any sort of random generation in regards to levels. Making a really shitty procedural generation of levels is easy. But it will be really shit.
Making procedure generation of a 3D level that is least decent is incredibly hard, and requires a dedicated team.
Handcrafted levels is the way to go.

If you are going for low-res - always consider intended internal resolution of your game, and palette from design standpoint.
Main mistake of te indies is mixing assets of different detail density, using diferent palette limitations for different things, using lower resolution assets than the games of the period they try to mimix had actually used.

It's best to establish internal resolution and palette you are going to use at the start - same as Doom decided that 32 units/pixels is a meter, and every asset sticks to it - both sprites and textures.
You may chose a different metric, or make things more detailed, but you should keep it consistent. There are few things uglier than Commodore-tier spritework on Duke-era textures.

Dont mix styles and methods of asset creation. Rotoscoped sprites dont mix in with mspaint textures.

Do not use material effects (PBR) unless you REALLY know what you are doing, or you may end up with wood and earth textures that look like they are covered in slime (like Nightmare Reaper, or that terrible Doom PBR))
If you do want some PBR, look at how Duke World Tour did it. Use similar restraint, and if you do decide to use it, do not leave heightmap generation to automated scripts.

[Anonymous No.6020840]

>>6020801
Duke World Tour had PBR?

[Anonymous No.6020853]

>>6020840
It has normal, roughness and metallicity mapping, all in the vanilla resolutions.
They are also used much more subtly than in your typical amateur / autogenerated and retouched HD Texture packs - the fact that they aren't HD helps too.

[Anonymous No.6020858]

Is there analog of chocolate/crispy doom for quake 1? Smth with maximum vanilla graphics and easy installing.

[Anonymous No.6020861]

aaah almost got it

[Anonymous No.6020863]

>>6020861
Minimap and floating Healthbar addons finished when?

[Anonymous No.6020873]

>>6020863
Both of the internal versions of those in this mod need to be refactored and fixed. Means I'll get more up-to-date code to extract for the universal ones. So, next time I work on the UI again probably?

[Anonymous No.6020878]

>>6020873
I wonder why the fuck aren't they in the base sourceport as options, when they exist in other source ports? Floating HP bars are a thing in prBoom, and IIRC there even was a code commit for the minimap into ZDoom itself.

[Anonymous No.6020881]

>>6020639
Cacowards are just a couple of dude's opinions, what matters is that you like it.

>>6020840
Yes, and it actually looks pretty good.

[Anonymous No.6020884]

>>6020878
Are the floating HP bars projected over the monsters, or are they in a fixed position near the crosshair when you look at a monster?

`IIRC there even was a code commit for the minimap into ZDoom itself.`
Yeah I recall that. I would love an official zscript-exposed version of the automap. It was/is a bit of a pain to convert the source code for it.
I also wish subsectors were exposed, because then it'd be possible to use zscript triangle drawer to draw sector floors (with textures even). Apparently exposing those would potentially lock the engine into doing things a certain way though.

[Anonymous No.6020916]

>>6020884
In PRBoom they float above enemy heads and are always 1 pixel tall.
I remember in oldeer versions they were 8 or so pixels tall

There's also this screen of auto-map like minimap in PRBoom but IDK how to turn it on. I didnt even know PRBoom had an overlay map mode until recently since its a bit obscure.

[Anonymous No.6020940]

GEROXE CRUO

[Anonymous No.6020983]

>>6020330

[Anonymous No.6020984]

>>6020983
trump_wrong.gif

[Anonymous No.6020985]

>>6020983
On a slightly unrelated note, what are some good Duke3D mods out there? I've got a handful of modern Doom mods I really quite like, but I haven't kept track of the Duke mod scene at all.

[Anonymous No.6020986]

>>6020984
trumps mostly right. t b h

[Anonymous No.6020991]

>>6020983
he's not wrong in that I can't force myself to play vanilla compatible maps
I expect at least no visplane limit and some custom textures as well
all Build games have levels that resemble actual places as standard, Doom never got that

[Anonymous No.6021003]

any retard can make a doom map
it takes mastery of the game and tons of work and trial and error to make a doom map that plays well
making a doom map that plays well while being a e s t h e t i c is reserved for the chosen few who have a knack for it and also spent 10000 hours making maps

[Anonymous No.6021006]

>>6021003
truly mindblowing, anon

[Anonymous No.6021017]

Lads are there any good resources for Doom skies? Or is there anyway I can just make Oblige spit out 50 random skies and pack them in a wad?

[Anonymous No.6021073]

>>6020991
I genuinely hate Duke's level design because of the realism. I vastly prefer Doom's more abstract design.

[Anonymous No.6021083]

>>6021073
duke has amazing vanilla levels
if id dinnae release the source code and good mapping tools weren't made by the community would you still be talking about doom?
I don't think so

[Anonymous No.6021093]

>>6021073
Duke Nukem's realism is pretty shallow at best, you have some rooms and locations designed to look like real places, but they still take lots of liberties in design and usually are actually fucking surreal if you start thinking about how they would actually be like as living spaces or workplaces.
They're mostly open-ended non-linear maps with lots of interconnectivity, and combined with the quasi-realism, I think it's a very good combo, and it's part of the game's personality.

There's something to be said for Doom's (and Quake's) much more abstract levels though, which I'm very fond of.

[Anonymous No.6021098]

>>6021083
>if id dinnae release the source code and good mapping tools weren't made by the community would you still be talking about doom?
Mapping tools were developed well before the source code release, and clearly because people were fond of the game and wanted to make maps for it.

Obviously the lack of source code would change everything, but Doom would still be pretty decently remembered given the maps people made, stuff like Final Doom, Memento Mori 2, Alien Vendetta, it's just fucking good mapsets based on a game which has fundamentally good gameplay already.

[Anonymous No.6021105]

>>6021098
it would be remembered as a SEMINAL game, becasue it is, it wouldn't be played much though except by die hard fans and confused zoomers

[Anonymous No.6021112]

>>6021093
quake is not abstract, actual 3D floors give it a sense of realness nothing in doom can
its levels serve an unkown purpose in the universe, it's just a primitive dimension hellbent on war and building fortresses aparently, but you can easily picture most rooms from quake existing IRL

[Anonymous No.6021135]

Is it easier to mod GoldSrc or Darkplaces?
I'm talking about learning how to make a game from scratch.

[Anonymous No.6021142]

>>6021112
That has nothing to do with 3D floors, both are abstract in a practical sense.

[Anonymous No.6021149]

Fuck Doom, it's not even a fucking hidden gem

[Anonymous No.6021173]

>>6021142
Quake's levels are only abstract in a sense they're still sparsely detailed
play AD and tell me its maps are abstract too, cause they aren't

[Anonymous No.6021176]

>>6021173
>play a mod
By that logic I can point to any Doom maps with realistic architecture and detailing and say the same.

[Anonymous No.6021178]

>>6021149
Fuck you metal jesus, you have no chin

[Anonymous No.6021181]

>>6021176
>Doom maps with realistic architecture and detailing and say the same.
there aren't very many, off the top of my head only KDIZD and Brasilian Favella man's shitty map pack qualify

[Anonymous No.6021190]

>>6021149
I don’t understand how someone who does nothing but play retro games can be so fucking stupid about retro hardware. It’s crazy to me. At least people like MVG, Tech Moan and 8Bit Guy know what the hell theyre talking about. Metal Jesus is just a giant retard

[Anonymous No.6021205]

>>6021181
>there aren't very many
Yes there are, you're just only counting megawads

[Anonymous No.6021212]

>>6021205
still somehow manages to look worse than an average preofessional quality Build map

[Anonymous No.6021213]

>>6021190
he's a former Sierra tech support guy, is it honesly surprising?

[Anonymous No.6021224]

>>6020639
Ion Furry is shit for example.

[Anonymous No.6021239]

>>6020451
Quake forces you to use weapon combos and movement to be really really good and fast at the combat.

Most of Doom is decision making with little moments of skill, whereas Quake is 90% skill and 10% little decisions.

[Anonymous No.6021241]

Okay so Dusk >>>>>>>>>>> Ion Fury, right?? Honestly I loved Dusk so much and then going to Ion Fury... the combat is so bad

[Anonymous No.6021242]

> i dont like thing
> you hear me
> i dont like thing
> so you shouldnt like it either

[Anonymous No.6021245]

>>6021241
What's wrong with it?

[Anonymous No.6021248]

>>6021241
It's not the combat that is bad anon, its actually okay for a build game, its the crap antagonist, shelly is a shit, and the annoying grunts from well, the grunts.

[Anonymous No.6021250]

>>6021241
haven't played Ion Fury yet but Dusk was extremely mediocre

[Anonymous No.6021252]

>>6021242
Are you the same poster that was offended by the word "faggot" last thread?
because you seem new

[Anonymous No.6021260]

The year is 2059, Donald Trump is in his 6th term.
Duke Nukem fights for trans rights the only way he knows how.

[Anonymous No.6021263]

>>6021252
I never understood these memes.

I always thought tastes can actually be discussed, some things ARE better than others even in art. The difference is that you can approach your criticism from a more better prepared standpoint.

[Anonymous No.6021264]

>>6021260
fuck off with that shit will ya

[Anonymous No.6021268]

>>6021264

[Anonymous No.6021273]

>>6020664
Are you trying to summon exilefag or something?

[Anonymous No.6021274]

>>6021268
>>6021264
>>6021260
Both of you quit it with this bullshit circlejerk.

[Anonymous No.6021280]

>>6020986
Trump is still a fucking Zionist Jew/Hebe loving shill.

[Anonymous No.6021281]

>>6020985
bumping this, I'm on a Build bender

[Anonymous No.6021282]

Speaking of rotational sprites form last thread you guys remember Shellshock? I had it on the Saturn and I loved it so much I later got the dos version.

I had some really sweet vehicle sprites, and a really comfy soundtrack and mission structure, you played as a mercenary group wreaking shit around the world, could upgrade your tank, there was a charlies angel type boss describing the missions on a nice crt screen. Was very 90s. Would be very woke today I guess.

I think it would be the base for an amazing Doom mod, gather some money from missions, now you could exit the tank and fight on foot. Like a fps master blaster.

[Anonymous No.6021286]

>>6021003
>that plays well
Literally impossible due to unavoidable hitscan damage and insane hitdice-based damage randomization. Unless it's a puzzle kind of map, moreover, indanely tightly constructed, where anything other than intended solution you are meant to crack is pretty much instadeath.

In other words, why should the mapper take a hit for RNG screwing player over.

In yet other words, the more RNG game has, the lower its ceiling is for showcasing mapping mastery.

Doom, viewed from that standpoint, is
YYEEEEEEEEEAAAAAH.
No wonder slaughtershit is the thing.

Add to that1/35th input lag, unlocked framerate or not, and its movement inertia, and
YYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH

[Anonymous No.6021291]

>>6021286
I never knew hitscans went through walls
learn something every day

[Anonymous No.6021295]

>>6021286
I don't agree with you on the basis that I am not bothered by the problems that you're presenting. I must respectfully recommend that you

git gud

[Anonymous No.6021297]

>>6021286
doom is more tactical and stand off ish than people realize
yes you can run at 700 map units meaning you can almost outrun rockets
but it's a slow paced methodical game about carving out a tactically advantageous position and holding it until everything dies

[Anonymous No.6021304]

>>6021181
Hellcore 2.0 has some, and Hellbound is FULL of it.

[Anonymous No.6021306]

>>6021135
Darkplaces is easier , goldsrc is fucking shit anon. It was already just okay back then.

[Anonymous No.6021308]

>>6020562
I think there is. But should try to be more than just nostalgia.

see>>6021282

Vehicle combat like Urban assault or the vehicles in doom already, and on foot sections.

[Anonymous No.6021309]

>>6021112
kinda unrelated, but I always interpreted the levels/everything in Quake to just be Ranger's interpretation of it.
Since it is heavily inspired by Lovecraft, it would make sense that "your mind cannot comprehend it's true form" is in play, and would also explain why shit like shotgun shells are just laying around. Ranger isn't actually using a shotgun, but a shotgun is the closest thing his mind can see it as.

[Anonymous No.6021310]

Guys I just had the awesome idea for Quake level
So start of the level you spawn witj shotgun and full health before you is long straight hallway like 100 meter long with torches n shiet right
And at the end of the hallway you see portal sparkling and on each side of the hallway there are medkits, tightly placed right next to each other, all along that hallway, boyth sides of the corridor, from the very start towards its very end
When you reach that end if the hallway and take that portal you get into main part of the level, where you will start progressively noticing something very weird without first being capable to quite place it
It's not that something is out of place it's that something isn't IN place
Medkits, of which in the main level there are none
You are meant to play without getting hit anytime you do your character's health takes irrevocable hit

You only have shotgun and axe in the corridor, so you can't hurt yourself, so you can't use a single medkit while in it

If you at the start of that corridor turn around right behind you is another portal, which, when entered, finishes the level

Naturally with zeroed statistics (other than time elapsed)

[Anonymous No.6021315]

>>6021309
Interesting theory, but I can also see a dimension of eyeless horrors quite literally building medieval citadels because they're in a neverending war with eachother whenever they're not invading other dimensions
And the slipgates themselves are like a Nine Princes of Amber situation, where one powerful being modifies reality to suit its needs, and drags anything useful through dimensions with it. Why you have mythological ogres with internal combustion powered chainsaws alongside medieval knights.

[Anonymous No.6021318]

>>6021315
por que no los dos?

[Anonymous No.6021325]

>>6021318
It's open to interpretation, but it's the mood and atmosphere it sets that matter, not the reasons. Very touchy-feely, dare I say it, impressionist game rather than anything rational.

[Anonymous No.6021328]

>>6021310
>Guys I just had the awesome idea for Quake level
I've stopped reading your post right there and you better start making it if it's awesome, eh?

[Anonymous No.6021339]

Haven't played much Doom in a while, but I've been wanting to get back into Hideous Destructor. Have there been any good maps/campaigns released over the past year or so that pair well with HD?

[Anonymous No.6021343]

>>6021212
It's made from fucking crusty free photos from the web, of course it does, but there's more examples out there.

[Anonymous No.6021347]

Anyone try Dorner's Last Stand?

[Anonymous No.6021348]

>>6020985
I've heard AMC TC is well regarded. I only took a brief look at it and couldn't figure out how to get out of the intro map before i got bored and quit but there's probably like a walkthrough or something.

[Anonymous No.6021363]

>>6021297
undeniably this. You need to think about everything you do in Doom, Quake is definitely more about being a speed demon, comboing weapons and HUHing around as fast as possible.

Doom 2016 was more Quake than Doom in terms of gameplay design. People who disagree with this are inexperienced.

[Anonymous No.6021364]

>>6021286
Git gud.

>>6021297
Sort of. That approach works, but if you run and gun in the right way, that also works.
I like to employ either approach, depending on situation.

[Anonymous No.6021370]

>>6021364
The minute your opposition becomes too heavy, Doom slows down a whole lot.

[Anonymous No.6021394]

>>6021370
Really depends on what you're playing. It's not like you don't have the Rocket Launcher, Plasma Rifle, or BFG9000. The only iwad map I can think of where you'd have heavy enough opposition to grind your advance to a halt would be Plutonia's Map 32, Go 2 It, but it's not like you aren't armed to the absolute teeth even if you pistol start.

So basically don't play slaughter maps if they don't suit your tastes.

[Anonymous No.6021404]

r8 these aesthetics. Lighting is going to change, but something about it just feels off. What am I doing wrong lads?

[Anonymous No.6021417]

>>6021404
textured like a city doom 2 map but has the design of an abstract map. Commit to a style.

[Anonymous No.6021424]

>>6021404
1994/10

[Anonymous No.6021425]

>>6021404
The wall textures used on floors look pretty bad. And yeah like the other guy said, you're mixing texture themes in a way that doesn't look super good.

[Anonymous No.6021427]

>>6021404
texture alignment my dude

[Anonymous No.6021453]

>>6021280
>>>/pol/
Get back where you belong, escapee

[Anonymous No.6021460]

>>6021417
Didn't notice this, glad you pointed it out. What makes these styles incompatible to mix, though?
>>6021424
Kek, yeah it's a little vanilla Doom 2 looking. Going to change that and go more towards a D1 look, I think.
>>6021425
>The wall textures used on floors look pretty bad.
I agree. I wish I would have changed that before uploading the screenies.
>>6021427
>texture alignment my dude
This is pretty WIP, plus I'm working with an editor I'm not entirely familiar with, so it's a growing pain, lol. But yeah, the alignment is hideous.

[Anonymous No.6021465]

Give me all your Doom asses

NOW

[Anonymous No.6021469]

>>6021460
Doom 2 textures for city levels were made with the idea of flatter, more building-shaped places, and you're using them for Doom 1 techbase level design. Use Doom 1 textures and it'll feel better, I promise.

[Anonymous No.6021479]

>>6021469
>Use Doom 1 textures and it'll feel better, I promise.
Every time I go to make maps for Doom 2, I always wish I had Doom 1 textures. I think you're on to something. I'm curious to see the difference it makes. Going to grab those Doom 1 textures from R667, and maybe another Doom style texture pack.

[Anonymous No.6021481]

>>6021465
S-stop!! This is a blue board, dude, what are you thinking!?

[Anonymous No.6021483]

>>6021404
Swap the sky texture for literally anything else.

[Anonymous No.6021489]

>>6021465
noooo my ad dollars baka gaijin

[Anonymous No.6021501]

>>6021465
OH FUCK
I'M GONNA DOOOOOOOM

[Anonymous No.6021502]

>>6021394
doom's gameplay is so basic the map maker can exactly dictate what the player can or cannot do with the right geometry and clever monster placement

[Anonymous No.6021508]

>>6021483
Yeah, absolutely. The Doom 2 skies are vomit inducing for me.

[Anonymous No.6021515]

[Anonymous No.6021725]

>>6020779
gzdoom

[Anonymous No.6021732]

>>6021725
Set her to Boom (Strict) comp level or just restart the map a few times

[Anonymous No.6021747]

>>6021404
Alright, this looks like an improvement to my eyes, but further criticism is greatly appreciated. The Doom 1 textures definitely helped.

[Anonymous No.6021751]

Why did GoldSrc get such a thriving modding community but Quake didn't?

[Anonymous No.6021757]

>>6021751
>but Quake didn't?
1. the modding tools simply didn't really exist at the time, and people's computers were a lot less powerful- map making is much easier when a whole map compiles in an hour instead of a week
2. it did, people were modding it before the full game even released, and aside from stuff like quakeworld team fortress, action quake, etc., you had stuff like valve buying the license and building goldsrc and half-life on the engine

[Anonymous No.6021758]

>>6021241
I really prefer Ion Fury over Dusk. Those points of no return in Dusk were annoying.
>>6021248
I feel like the bad guy in Ion Fury has a lot more personality than everyone in Dusk. Can't say the same for the rest of the enemies, though.

[Anonymous No.6021762]

>>6021747
I wasn't about to suggest gray concrete, but that works for this place. Mind, some of the most beautiful maps ever made for Doom are made with mostly gray or otherwise dull colored concrete.

Phobos sky works as well. I don't know why, but I really hate that brown cloudy sky in Doom 2. It's fearsome for how dull it is.

[Anonymous No.6021763]

>>6021747
Try thicker border textures for the sides of the green wall. The green/silver wall connected to the bridge that is.

[Anonymous No.6021771]

>>6021751
I'd say it is partly to do with the way Quake was written- lots of stuff is hard coded and upon inspection of the original QC source, you get the impression that it was put together under duress.

[Anonymous No.6021773]

>>6021758
I also prefer Ion Fury over dusk. Slightly.
Dusk has a really good ost and okay gameplay however.

[Anonymous No.6021782]

>>6021762
>I wasn't about to suggest gray concrete, but that works for this place.
The texture choice might undergo another revision, but the colors from the previous iteration felt too saturated and dark to me, so I tried to relieve that by using some grey mid-tones.
>Phobos sky works as well. I don't know why, but I really hate that brown cloudy sky in Doom 2.
The Phobos sky is by far my favorite vanilla doom sky. I have the same feelings about the Doom 2 sky. For me, it's monochromatic, overbearing browns just suck the life out of things.

>>6021763
>Try thicker border textures for the sides of the green wall. The green/silver wall connected to the bridge that is.
Yeah, you're definitely right. I think I'm also going to make the borders pop out of the wall, to make an even stronger border. The lack of transition between the concrete and metallic texture felt extremely jarring to me, and I think it's the lack of a noticeable border that's causing it.

[Anonymous No.6021785]

>>6021747
Is that a fucking slope in Doom?

[Anonymous No.6021787]

>>6021785
Not just a slope, but a bridge one

[Anonymous No.6021797]

>>6021785
Yeah what you gonna do about it, huh? I watched your gf crouch and jump on slopes last night.

[Anonymous No.6021810]

>>6021747
That looks quite a bit better anon.

I'm not sure about the natural rocks in right corner, they look like someone dumped them there after the base was built. I think you should either remove it or enlarge it so it forms part of the outer wall of the level at that corner, and also the sandstone texture on top of the gray rock is a bit weird.

[Anonymous No.6021827]

>>6021797
who would wanna fuck a slope

[Anonymous No.6021841]

>>6021797
While aiming up? No way.

[Anonymous No.6021854]

>>6021083
Considering all those years everyone and their mom played Plutonia on Zdaemon before Skulltag came out, yes. Not as much, but yes.

Duke's levels bore the fuck out of me and every level seemingly has a new mechanic, which you'd think would make it interesting but instead just makes it unintuitive. Same with other Build games like Shadow Warrior which is the worst offender. The most baffling part I remember is when you have to enter a fireplace to progress, got stuck for like 20 minutes before I found that out, and every other level had some obtuse form of progression like that.

The biggest I like Doom is because of consistency and intuitiveness for the most part, which is something good mappers share.
>>6021093
Compared to Doom it's far, far more realistic. Look at Hollywood Hollocaust, there's nothing even in Doom 2's "attempts" at making a city that are even remotely as realistic as that.

[Anonymous No.6021859]

>>6021758
The bad guys in Dusk are pretty cool but the issue is they're only introduced when you fight them, there's zero build-up.

[Anonymous No.6021861]

>>6020985
Alien Armageddon is pretty fun, includes all the official maps retooled along with its own campaign.
Duke Eternity is HRP-infested shit but I really enjoyed the maps for some reason.

[Anonymous No.6021872]

>>6021404
There's no consistency. Everything is just mishmashed together. Try using just one primary texturing / trim style per area.
>>6021747
For example, get rid of that tan rock and just use 1 or 2 rock textures for the area.

[Anonymous No.6021874]

>>6021771
Quake kind of was put together under duress, it was a very messy development and the game is what it is as a result of a lot of heavy compromises.

Also
>guake ::::DDD
>guad demage :::DD

[Anonymous No.6021880]

>>6021479
Unfortunately idgames (most notable doom wad archive) won't accept your wad if you add textures from Doom 1.

[Anonymous No.6021881]

>>6021105
The fanmade maps wouldn't go anywhere and people still make vanilla-compitable stuff to this day like D4V. I sure as fuck would talk about Doom infinitely more than Duke whose 90% of conversations in the last decade have been about making fun of DNF and Randy Pitchford. Hell even without fanmade maps I'd still talk more about Doom whenever 90s classics would get brought up, same way I talk about Heretic or SoTN or Quake.

[Anonymous No.6021912]

>>6021854
>there's nothing even in Doom 2's "attempts" at making a city that are even remotely as realistic as that
Not for a lack of trying, Downtown was gonna have a set of docks but those were cut out. Sandy would probably have loved to have done some sidewalks and roads for the map too if it wasn't for the fact that they had to make sure the game had to run at a decent FPS on computers at the time.

[Anonymous No.6021914]

>>6021880
I don't buy that.

[Anonymous No.6021917]

>>6021881
would you even have gotten into doom if all you had was the DOS EXE?

[Anonymous No.6021918]

>>6021914
You don't believe it's true? It explicitly says so in their rules and I know from experience having a wad rejected for that reason.

[Anonymous No.6021924]

>>6021880
>idgames won't accept your wad if you add textures from Doom 1
well that's fucking retarded, are they doing the piracy angle?
illegally obtained doom textures, the horror

[Anonymous No.6021927]

When are we getting Crispier Doom that supports Boom map features?

[Anonymous No.6021932]

>>6021927
it's out, it's called PrBoom+

[Anonymous No.6021934]

>>6021914
from the look of their rules it probably falls under one of these two:
>1. Don't upload anything that's based on or modifies versions of the original levels of any of the id Software games.
>2. Don't include unmodified sprites or graphics from the id games. They're not needed with the newer source ports, so don't do it.

[Anonymous No.6021935]

>>6021932
PrBoom+ feels bad. I'm not sure what exactly it is, probably something with the way it handles mouse input.

[Anonymous No.6021936]

>>6021927
That’s Doom Retro

[Anonymous No.6021941]

>>6021935
sounds like a (You) problem, but you can always check out old PrBoom before the fork

[Anonymous No.6021984]

>>6021872
>Everything is just mishmashed together. Try using just one primary texturing / trim style per area.
I also got this feeling, as well.
>just use 1 or 2 rock textures for the area.
Should I use rock textures that aren't grey so they stand better from the wall?

[Anonymous No.6021991]

>>6021936
Doom Retro is Boom compatible?

[Anonymous No.6021997]

what if the cancelled doom 4 was just a doom 3 expansion instead?
like, make the art style a bit more doom 3ish, fix the shotgun, add some new enemies and content, go wild with some earth level potential ideas like a haunted house level or well known places like tokyo or paris being corrupted by hell

[Anonymous No.6022000]

>>6021935
I noticed the same thing, it feels like there is some sort of intermittent input delay on the mouse.

[Anonymous No.6022026]

Is there any resource for the doom sprites fan edits? Like a database something

[Anonymous No.6022028]

>>6022026
realm667 and zdoom/doomworld threads about sprites?

[Anonymous No.6022029]

>>6021465
haha imagine how much he must sweat dragging that big heavy arm and leg around
must be really tiring haha

[Anonymous No.6022048]

>>6021997
the cancelled Doom 4 was more of a Hell themed Call of Duty, it wasn't a good Doom game and I'm glad it's gone.

[Anonymous No.6022052]

>>6021912

Ah yes, the map so atrociously designed that it needed a gigantic fucking arrow to tell players where to start.

[Anonymous No.6022069]

my cock is sooo fucking hard

[Anonymous No.6022072]

>>6022069

[Anonymous No.6022087]

>>6022052
romero's map 15 is arguably worse
the entire middle of doom 2 can fuck off and die

[Anonymous No.6022093]

>>6021918
>>6021934
Yet you see people use the skies from Doom 1 in Doom 2 .wads, among other things.
Seems a highly quaint rule at this point, particularly how many .wads use textures from other commercial games.

[Anonymous No.6022096]

>>6021934
Dayum shame

[Anonymous No.6022126]

>>6021934
So what do I do, tell players to load up the Ultimate Doom iwad as pwad? That's retarded and seems like it could have the potential to mess with mods. Guess this particular map isn't going on idgames.

[Anonymous No.6022135]

>>6022052
It's one of Sandy's weaker maps, true.

>>6022087
I was never fond of Industrial Zone either, but some people love it.

[Anonymous No.6022179]

doom 2 is worse than doom 1 but doom 2 has ssg

[Anonymous No.6022187]

>>6022179
cretin IQ: playing doom 2
low IQ: playing plutonia
high IQ: playing ultimate doom with the SSG

[Anonymous No.6022195]

What surce port for Hexen?

[Anonymous No.6022204]

>>6022195
GZDoom. Chocolate Hexen is also good if you want that chunky look.

[Anonymous No.6022221]

>>6022195
your only real choices are Z/GZdoom and doomsday
so your only real choice is GZdoom
unless you want 320x200 eye strain vision, then good old chocodoom has you covered senpai

[Anonymous No.6022275]

I'm confused

[Anonymous No.6022316]

How is No Rest for the Living? I haven't played it yet.

[Anonymous No.6022324]

>>6022316
strong contender for best mapset in an official release
arguably even "doom 1 in a single episode, except its doom 2"

[Anonymous No.6022407]

Goldsrc is a piece of shit
>doesnt natively support props which means EVERYTHING from chairs to computers are map brushes which is horrendous for optimization
>Doesnt natively support AI meshes
>Doesn't natively support real time shadows
>Doesn't natively support cube map reflections
>Doesn't natively support drawmaps
>Doesn't natively support navmeshes
>Doesn't natively support real time light mapping
>Doesn't support physics or anything like that at all
>Has a hard time calculating any advanced AI movement
>AI literally cant traverse elevators without dying or gibbing
>Alien AI breaks randomly half the time on custom maps

Goldsrc has nostalgia but as an engine it fucking blows worse then Source, which is already god awful

[Anonymous No.6022418]

>>6022072
>Why yes, I do play without filters. How could you tell?

[Anonymous No.6022450]

did id tech 2 have a light? I remember something about radiosity . . .

[Anonymous No.6022479]

>>6022407
>an engine from 1998 has features than an engine from 2004
holy shit, alert the media

[Anonymous No.6022521]

why does /v/ hate half life so much?

[Anonymous No.6022571]

>>6022275
lol are those supposed to be infighting barons?

[Anonymous No.6022594]

>>6022407
you still think Valve has talented people working for it?

[Anonymous No.6022596]

>>6022275
>>6022571
it's like you haven't beaten E1M8 pacifist

[Anonymous No.6022607]

>>6022594
Half life was never good.
It killed fps.
Only retards like it.
Even /v/ knows its garbage.

[Anonymous No.6022652]

>>6022594
Dario Casali is probably still there, but god knows if he's even making levels anymore. The guy must be bored out of his fucking skull, though the paycheck is probably rather good.

[Anonymous No.6022732]

I wanna git gud at making some custom textures for walls and doors and stuff. Is there a guide to doing doom art if you've never done it before or should I just open up paint.net and hope for the best?

[Anonymous No.6022762]

>>6022732
making textures is a separate skill, my advice is to "paint with the shadows"
as in, try making a texture in grayscale or with very limited palette, something like 4/8 colors/shades and see if it resembles anything
you should of course use reference for whatever you are making, so if you want to make a texture of a wall with a window, take a picture of one or look it up on google

[Anonymous No.6022769]

>>6022732
Use the original palette for ease of design. I use Aseprite. 'Sprite' -> 'Color Mode' -> 'Indexed', then 'Options' -> 'Load Palette'.

[Anonymous No.6022807]

>>6022652
all you have to do to keep being employed by valve is look good on an internal performance review, they don't actually care about shipping anything or their customers
they're masters of eternally spinning wheels and looking busy

[Anonymous No.6022819]

Would Keen and Duke get along?

[Anonymous No.6022820]

>>6022807
You have to master being with the in crowd too. With no management or deadlines around projects form into cliques and you need to be liked to be kept around. So they end up working on whatever tech demo is cool at the moment because no one likes the guy bringing up problems.

[Anonymous No.6022825]

>>6022819
If Duke could restrain himself. They both spend a lot of time saving the world from aliens, so they have that in common at least.

[Anonymous No.6022846]

>>6022820
Tim Sweeney and Xi Jinping got them moving again though, as I predicted. Except nobody cares about Half Life anymore, nobody has a VR headset and nobody likes Alyx.
Dota autochess seems reasonably successful with that kind of crowd, but they might as well release a cookie clicker where you click piss in your fans' faces

[Anonymous No.6022850]

>>6022819
Because Duke is at heart a huge nerd, he'd probably show Keen some cult classic movies which he may or may not be slightly too young for, such as Army Of Darkness, or Robocop.

[Anonymous No.6022867]

Go to https://talktotransformer.com/ and make something Doom related

[Anonymous No.6022870]

>>6022867

[Anonymous No.6022882]

>>6022087
My only gripe with map15 is the teleporter that takes you to the red key. I swear in NO other map does a destination teleporter take you to a DIFFERENT place than the first one. It's right up there with other counterintuitive bullshit like using non-switch textures for shootable switches.

[Anonymous No.6022883]

Whether there is "smooth monsters only" mod for gzdoom?

[Anonymous No.6022885]

>>6022867

[Anonymous No.6022897]

>>6022407
This post is complete dog shit.

[Anonymous No.6022903]

>>6022846
>nobody has a VR headset
I do.
>and nobody likes alyx
I do.
It'll be fun, I'm sure. Still looking forward to boneworks more atm.

[Anonymous No.6022914]

>>6022903
>he likes alyx
why?

[Anonymous No.6022916]

>>6022867

[Anonymous No.6022937]

(where the main hook is likely from)
Doom 2016 <- Eradicator
Rise of the Triad 2013 <- Angel Devoid

[Anonymous No.6022979]

New Blood speedrun world record

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qBfNx6csGQ

[Anonymous No.6022994]

>>6022850
Definitely They Live.

[Anonymous No.6023007]

>>6022867

[Anonymous No.6023013]

>>6022867

[Anonymous No.6023036]

Bully gun progress.

[Anonymous No.6023038]

>>6022867

John Stalvern waited. The lights above him blinked and sparked out of the air. There were demons in the base. He didn't see them, but had expected them, now for years. His warnings to Cernel Joson were not listenend to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway.

"They have me now," he said quietly.

Cernel Joson stood and stepped forward. "What are you doing here?"

"We're here to help. I'm going to need help to escape. If you can do that, then we can all escape. The situation will be far worse than what it is right now."

Cernel Joson stood there. "You'll need help to escape, then. I have some people that can help you. But I can't help you. I've lost too much to this place."

"Why? What happened to you?"

[Anonymous No.6023039]

>>6021934
If you don't tell them, they probably won't know.

[Anonymous No.6023042]

>>6022846
I care about Half-Life, but I don't care about VR, so the latest announcement feels kind useless to me.

[Anonymous No.6023096]

How do I reach here for akimbos? It's e5m3, gothic library.
Damn, game is not that dark like screenshot for some reason.

[Anonymous No.6023105]

>>6022903
>tried to order VR headset from Amazon because local distributors make a 90-130% markup
>amazon does not recognise my home adress, even if it says it can deliver to my country
>file a ticket
>while ticket is being resolved all the good offers I wanted to buy are sold out because Half-Life 3 VR confirmed
>Local distributors jack up the price even higher

Welp. No VR for me in this decade i guess..

[Anonymous No.6023112]

>>6021343
what wad (and mod)

[Anonymous No.6023126]

Are there any Doom mods that have Mateba Autorevolver, Chiappa Rhino 60D or GSh-12 in them?

[Anonymous No.6023132]

>>6023105
It'll be an expensive tech demo with shit controls until well into the next decade. You're not missing out.

[Anonymous No.6023152]

>>6023126
Metaba revolver is in lithium (cybermage)
i do not know about the others

and i think wild weasell terrorists as something similar in terms of revolvers

[Anonymous No.6023153]

[Anonymous No.6023154]

>>6023036
Looks good. Would it be possible to make the beams arc with the momentum?

[Anonymous No.6023158]

>>6023105
The price will drop again. I bought my set for like 200 bucks and it was worth it at that price.

[Anonymous No.6023165]

>>6023158
Which set did you get?
Odyssey?

[Anonymous No.6023178]

In honor of the new Half-Life game, I'm going to replay the original. Is Brutal Half-Life any good?

[Anonymous No.6023216]

>>6023154
Absolutely. I'll try to use two "springs" for the physics rather than just one, then subdivide the beam curves based on segment length and tie the relevant control points to the springs.

[Anonymous No.6023292]

>>6022652
at least he finally got something to do in the new half life: alyx. Hope his levels are great as it always was.

[Anonymous No.6023309]

>>6023153
Here's one better suited for here
(P.S. you can't move about in the mini-game or anything)

[Anonymous No.6023329]

>>6023178
Isnt it just vr? And with fucking boring alyx? Who cares.

[Anonymous No.6023331]

>>6023126
yes

[Anonymous No.6023367]

Trying to see how many classic FPS I can run/play on the switch.

On top of the already obvious ones I can do...

>Rise of the Triad - psp homebrew
>Star Wars Dark forces - PS1 emulation
>MDK - Dreamcast emulator
>Shadow Warrior Redux - Android emulator
>Powerslave - PS1 emu

Any ideas for other games? Switch can run android/psp/Dreamcast

[Anonymous No.6023371]

Why Duke Nukem 3D's episode 3 is so popular? Levels are disappointingly short, more often than not ugly, have little novelty (no new weapons, monsters, special effects), the epic progression which defined the other episodes is nonexistent, just one short half baked multiplayer arena after another. LA rumble and Freeway are good, but they make little sense as a part of your ass kicking journey.

[Anonymous No.6023374]

>>6023013
>But I know that this way's ending too, and I've seen it all before.

[Anonymous No.6023380]

>>6023331
what mod?

[Anonymous No.6023384]

Been playing SHRINE on UV and I'm just not feeling it, bros. Just got to Map 5 and I'm wondering if it's even worth continuing because outside of the pretty graphics the actual gameplay and level design itself just isn't engaging at all.

[Anonymous No.6023389]

https://youtu.be/aXbN1Vakhqs

[Anonymous No.6023390]

>>6022867
Heres some Dook Nooky:

Duke Nukem sneered at the alien writhing on the floor and said "eat shit and die".

The man's body was then picked up, dropped off, picked up again, dropped off again. This happened until it was finally picked up, dropped off, picked up again.

This is how he was killed.

His final fate was then to be carried out in a similar way but with his final words spoken by his mother.

The alien then made his last words. "Mommy I am dying, I can't breathe."

He then collapsed to the floor, dead.

At his funeral, Duke Nukem was asked his final question by his wife.

She responded that he died because he didn't eat enough.

"He ate too much of the alien, and he couldn't keep it in his stomach."

[Anonymous No.6023391]

What's the Chocolate Doom of Quake?

[Anonymous No.6023407]

>>6022867
Why not some Deus Ex too?

[Anonymous No.6023446]

>>6023391
probably winquake.exe, desu
mark V and tyrquake can give you the crunchy software renderer, but they're very much not chocolate

[Anonymous No.6023449]

>>6023446
I'm more worried about map/mod compatibility of things I make. Surely there has to be something that is good for that by now.

[Anonymous No.6023459]

>>6023380
Se7evidas, it's hella dead

[Anonymous No.6023464]

hey guys, looks this BADASS mod https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYXdoxu75nU

[Anonymous No.6023480]

>>6023459
>Se7evidas
Sesevenevidas?
how do you even supposed to pronounce that?

[Anonymous No.6023485]

>>6023480
you don't, you're supposed to play it

[Anonymous No.6023486]

>>6023464
Man I've wanted a Killing Time remake for a long time... Looks like it's taking many many liberties with the original, but I'm legit excited.

[Anonymous No.6023504]

>>6022883
it's completely modular, RTFM

[Anonymous No.6023508]

>>6023367
Unreal Tournament - Dreamcast

[Anonymous No.6023509]

https://twitter.com/StormCatcherDS/status/1197139813209649154?s=20

[Anonymous No.6023513]

>>6023509

[Anonymous No.6023514]

>>6023513

[Anonymous No.6023515]

>>6023096
I don't know the "intended" way, but dynamite jumping always works

[Anonymous No.6023517]

>>6023514

[Anonymous No.6023519]

>>6023509
>>6023513
>>6023514
Those Doom assets look super out of place next to all the custom ones. Before I saw them I thought this was a standalone game.

[Anonymous No.6023520]

>>6023515
Considering how much health dynamite will deplete, it's not really worth it. I watched a playthrough on youtube and apparently there's no way to reach here, runner suggested to jump here from zombies that inhabited the library.

[Anonymous No.6023521]

>>6023520
cryptic has health lying around everywhere, go nuts
and yeah, headstomp jumps also work

[Anonymous No.6023525]

>>6023367
Why didn't you just buy a cheap Android device, you s*y-sucking piece of shit?
God, I fucking hate you Switch shills so fucking much. Drop dead.

[Anonymous No.6023527]

>>6023509
>>6023513
>>6023517
im stonkd

[Anonymous No.6023529]

>>6023525
You okay bro? Need a caco to pet?

[Anonymous No.6023535]

>>6023525
The switch runs android you dumb faggot and can connect to my TV and has actual controllers. AND has better open source ports for other games AND plays switch games. You dumb fuck.

[Anonymous No.6023543]

>>6023525
nobody likes a nintentoddler but you're a faggot also

[Anonymous No.6023545]

>>6023521
I noticed there are really more items than usual, yes. Especially compared to post mortem map1 which I accidentally started before cryptic, I'll continue it later.

[Anonymous No.6023547]

>>6023535
there's this thing called a personal computer, you should try it
t. not that faggot

[Anonymous No.6023549]

>>6023547
PCs are for spreadsheets

[Anonymous No.6023553]

>>6023545
Cryptic was made by duke it out in DC lads
Plasma Pak/Post mortem is my favourite episode and it mainly consists of alpha levels lol

>>6023549
you could say they Excel at that
don't you wanna do spreadsheets on your fancy new TV that you're trying to convince yourself wasn't a waste of money :^)

[Anonymous No.6023554]

>>6023549
>he says in a thread dedicated to games that are played best on a PC
based switchlet

[Anonymous No.6023560]

there's a french mapset where the titlepic had asterix and obelix
is there a brazilian doom mapset with monica in it?
also, i swear there was a page of that comic series where they had a bunch of vidya characters in a bar and two where gordon freeman and a quake shambler

[Anonymous No.6023562]

>>6023525
Found another one.

Hexen 2 - PSP homebrew

:)

[Anonymous No.6023573]

>>6023553
Just curious how would you rank episodes in blood? The first one is my favourite so far and I doubt it will be changed.

[Anonymous No.6023580]

GERO SHAY CRUO

[Anonymous No.6023597]

>>6023573
I first payed Blood back when the newset windows still had native DOS compatabilty but never gotten super into it until BloodGDX
Blood's original 4 episodes have a tendency to start out amazing and end with ugly boring and or infuriating maps, except episode 1 which is the shareware demo frontloated with some of the best maps
E3M6 is in my opinion the absolute low of the game

That said, personal enjoyment/averaged map quality wise: E6 > E3 > E1 > E2 > E5 > E4

[Anonymous No.6023602]

>>6023525
shitposting hour doesn't commence until 2000 EST

[Anonymous No.6023612]

>>6023597
I liked the 4th episode the least too.

[Anonymous No.6023632]

Got an AMD GPU. Should I turn on Vulkan on GZdoom?

[Anonymous No.6023651]

>>6023407

[Anonymous No.6023671]

tfw trying to find motivation to work on my project

[Anonymous No.6023673]

>>6023671
>tfw no f

[Anonymous No.6023703]

>>6022867

[Anonymous No.6023704]

>>6023112
Doxylamine Moon: Overdose
It's part of Lainos's Sacrament series, large, detailed, and atmospheric.
Mod is an older version of Accessories To Murder. I would advise against playing with newer versions as they replace more of the extant decoration actors which Lainos reskinned, so you'll get a lot of performance issues and goofy shit.

[Anonymous No.6023730]

>>6023704
Which one of the older versions then?
Can you give a link?

[Anonymous No.6023795]

still trying to figure out some of the tricks in that recent Amiga doom clone demo.

The geometry is pretty restricted (e.g. only ceilings can have variable height, and only a fixed set of heights are available), and I wonder if all of the restrictions are necessary for decent performance.

[Anonymous No.6023797]

>>6020330
So, were WADs custom-designed for DOOM, or were they already an existing file format? I cannot find a way way to open WADs without using DoomBuilder, and am wondering if there are other applications.

[Anonymous No.6023820]

>>6023367
>MDK
>FPS
bruh

[Anonymous No.6023830]

>>6023797
WAD aka "Where All the Data" was designed by John Carmack specifically for the purpose of separating game assets from game code (engine)
This was a novel concept at that time. Engines obviously existed before, but nobody before him exposed the separation in the final product.

Before that if one wanted to modify existing graphics and create a mod, they'd have to slice and repackage the game along with the game code, even if it was not modified, which was legally dubious.

This separation was done explicitly for the purpose of modification, so that the game assets could've been replaced without having any need to replicate actual game code, thus allowing modding of the game without having to resort to illegal distribution of the game.

And thus Doom modding community was born.

[Anonymous No.6023870]

>>6023797
WADs are unique to doom engine, later id games use .PAK and .pk3 which is just a ZIP archive

[Anonymous No.6023879]

>>6022819
he'd probably try to make keen do drugs or something I dunno

[Anonymous No.6023884]

The only thing I've found missing from the ZSDF editor so far is support for ConversationID

[Anonymous No.6023919]

>>6023486
yea me too, in fact, a couple years ago i was made someting similar, with a library of pothorealistic sprites, but a storm fuck up my hard drive.
Personally propose that we ask him to use the enemies of the 3rd console, since real actors were used.

[Anonymous No.6023935]

>>6023730
I actually can't, I don't think it's listed in the ZDoom thread anymore, and that's a very old screenshot.
The version I had I had applied a bunch of crude alterations to (mostly some sound and damage tweaks), but it doesn't work in GzDoom anymore.

[Anonymous No.6023938]

>>6023632
Gaze upon Graf's shit optimization work and utter spite for anything AMD related, like the morose cunt he is.

[Anonymous No.6023946]

Okay guys I've got a semi-finished release for my first map, still some tweaking to do but it's pretty much there. if you want check the readme for more info but right now it's only got proper stuff for Ultra-violence, it's Boom compatible, got some (almost) UVmax demos in the zip file. You can pistol start the maps or play em continuously. remember to like, share, and subscribe.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/6f61pdusqxfi7w4/BABBYBETA.zip/file

[Anonymous No.6023959]

>>6023367
Through RetroArch you'll be able to run Doom 3 soon via the dhewm3 core.

[Anonymous No.6023973]

something i thought of is: a good reason why doom mods that aren't meme mods or brutal doom could get more coverage in videogame sites is in case it inscreases interest in the creator and leads them to get somewhere in a different place
like, dragonfly making levels for prodeus or cage and hdoomguy making sprites for ion fury
i heard kegan wanted to make his own games at some point
i think a problem is that only /v/ and weirds bother to visit the likes of polygon or rockpapershotgun and some modders don't really do "portfolios" that demonstrate what they've worked on
also, not everyone either gets somewhere with this or doesn't really want to

[Anonymous No.6023994]

[Anonymous No.6023996]

>>6023830
I would be very surprised if doom was actually the first to do this, and not just an early, well known instance of it

[Anonymous No.6023998]

>>6023994
>Mr. Icarus
>Modded melee
>never uses it
Yeah that's accurate

[Anonymous No.6024009]

Reminder that you haven't seen SHIET case you haven't played Eradicator and Cybermage on hardest difficulties. Eradicator is by far the best combat in anything 2.5D-related, Cybermage is one of the best paced campaigns in shooters ever - although it basically requires you to think like a playtester and to cheese anything you can possibly get your paws on.

[Anonymous No.6024023]

>>6021241
I beat Ion Fury and immediately started another run on a higher difficulty. The combat was really good and satisfying, could use a bit more enemy variety though.

I dropped Dusk somewhere in Episode 1 because I had no fun at all. People say E2 and E3 are much better so maybe I'll replay it and start right there next time.

[Anonymous No.6024025]

>>6023946
I'm a relative wad babby but I'm missing something I think as I couldn't get out of the cell without no clipping. But I did like what I saw after that, it certainly felt different.

[Anonymous No.6024030]

>>6024023
Ion Fury's combat, barring gimmick altfires, is quite literally Eradicator, by the way.

[Anonymous No.6024034]

>>6021241
I didn't think either were _amazing_ but Ion Fury was on a whole other level to Dusk. Dusk is enjoyable enough but didn't engage me very much. Ion Fury runs too long but was far better.

[Anonymous No.6024037]

I'm not sure if this counts as a retro shooter but I don't want to start a thread for it. What's the best way to play Deus Ex today?

I have the Stream version but it doesn't offer stuff like modern resolutions. Is there a source port or something?

[Anonymous No.6024038]

>>6023994
> all gags and shticks in a single panel for each
love it
i don't know who aquarius is, but this gave me a pretty comprehensive rundown

[Anonymous No.6024043]

>>6024037
Community Update, probably.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/deus-ex-community-update

[Anonymous No.6024045]

>>6024037
Gmdx and revision mod.

gmdx is good for vanilla plus experience, revision changes more stuff, its not as bad as people say, some levls become much more interesting. I like both.

[Anonymous No.6024047]

>>6021465

[Anonymous No.6024048]

>>6024037
Just stick with Kentie's Launcher https://kentie.net/article/dxguide/

[Anonymous No.6024049]

>>6024037
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Deus_Ex#Essential_improvements
Take your pick

[Anonymous No.6024051]

>>6020985
Have you played all the original stuff? Like Caribbean, the xmas one...

[Anonymous No.6024052]

>>6024025
You gotta shoot the right-side computer terminal relative to your starting position

[Anonymous No.6024054]

>>6024051
>the xmas one
Not this shit again.

[Anonymous No.6024056]

>>6024052
Oh yeah, I just checked and that did it. Cheers.
More ammo would be only thing I'd recommend, I went through for a while but I'm down to the fists pretty early on with this many enemies about.

[Anonymous No.6024061]

>>6023994
>Mr. Icarus

I can't stand that guy, purely subbed to him on the off chance his thumbnail shows a wad I haven't heard of. Terrible at games, ALWAYS misses shit in whatever wad he's covering and he gave Hideous Destructor a bad review because he can't play it to save his life.

[Anonymous No.6024063]

>>6024056
right on right on

[Anonymous No.6024074]

anyone have a recommendation for some hidden gem wads? every "top" list is populated with the same few things, av, scythe, etc. I'm looking for something good that hasn't been suggested 10000 times already.

[Anonymous No.6024108]

>>6023946
This is a very autistic spot to put them, anon. I see both columns opening up infront of you, but they come from behind, is it supposed to be bait?

[Anonymous No.6024114]

>>6024074
the rebirth

[Anonymous No.6024118]

>>6023517
>>6023514
>>6023513
>>6023509
>Doom RPG
Freaking nice

[Anonymous No.6024125]

>>6024108
To a degree (there is a hanging pair of leg bait in the center of the room), but it's also something to keep you on your toes. It's mean, sure, but it comes with extra ammo and a medpak. They'll teleport out if they reach the door frame to the loading bay with the boxes, and if you want to avoid them there's a shotgunner a little further ahead

[Anonymous No.6024126]

>>6024074
Vile Flesh

[Anonymous No.6024129]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxFgSmR0i3A
When is Matt going to add mountable bayonets to HD?
I really really really want to bayonet charge and skewer abominations while laughing and screaming maniacally.

[Anonymous No.6024159]

>>6024045
>Gmdx and revision mod.

No and no.

[Anonymous No.6024194]

Is there any balance/slight weapon changes mods for HL1 ala MMod for HL2?

[Anonymous No.6024198]

>>6024194
No.
Half Life 1 is pretty lacking in pure gameplay mods in general.
Your best bet is those overhaul mods that add flashy new weapons and shit, but I never bothered playing them.

[Anonymous No.6024223]

>>6024194
>>6024198
imagine Half Nuked but good

[Anonymous No.6024235]

>>6024194
Speaking of, look, a Quake Mod for Half Life
https://www.moddb.com/mods/project-netherworld

[Anonymous No.6024296]

>>6023459
just tried this out and it sucks pretty bad

[Anonymous No.6024335]

>>6024296
most doom mods do, keep looking

[Anonymous No.6024374]

>>6023830
Is there anything this man can't do?

[Anonymous No.6024397]

how do I setup a server for mods in quake?

[Anonymous No.6024441]

>>6024335
i've played a lot of good mods, never been a fan of rpg ones, though, so yeah, definitely wasn't for me

[Anonymous No.6024473]

>>6023509
>>6023513
>>6023514
>>6023517
I don't think I've ever felt such romantic passion stir within me.

[Anonymous No.6024517]

>>6023884
Added and updated. Mainly updated so soon because of a critical bug that I found and fixed. Can't have those around.

[Anonymous No.6024535]

>>6024194
The closest thing to that is Brutal Half Life but it's very buggy and crash prone, and hasn't had an update in over a year.
Since we're on the topic of HL1 mods, Residual Life is great. Lots of secrets, alternate routes that add replayability, excellent A+ tier map design, pic related. The combat is garbage though, it throws way too many enemies at you at the same time in the later maps and that doesn't work in Half Life, it's not Doom. So play it on Normal, or better yet, Easy (I'm not kidding, the secret level Sun Eater's Pillar literally throws 15+ vortigaunts at you at the same time, several times, and these charge up in less than a second for devastating hitscan damage). Hard will have you savescumming all of the way. The story is incomprehensible due to bad translation but that never mattered in a good FPS. I've played this one at least 8 times since I can't get enough of the map design, I think they based a lot of them off real life locations.
Residual Point is basically a proto-RL. It's okay. If you want more of the map design, it's worth a playthrough. I haven't replayed this one a lot but I think it also has alternate routes.
Hazardous-Course 2 is a great puzzle/platforming mod with tons of neat secret-hunting and, again, top tier map design. Not very replayable, but you should go through it all and 100% it at least once. Also has great humor, it made me burst out laughing a couple of times.
Echoes is pretty damn good, but it's a more traditional Half-Life campaign. It doesn't go as wacky as Residual Life with its maps, but they are still well made. It feels like a modern Blue Shift.

[Anonymous No.6024565]

Why was it so popular?

[Anonymous No.6024578]

>>6020330

[Anonymous No.6024645]

>>6024578
Boy oh boy i wonder what kind of gameplay this wad has.

[Anonymous No.6024781]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaDRKbsweeY

[Anonymous No.6024825]

*wet slapping noises*

[Anonymous No.6024838]

>>6024565
The only map I liked and actually enjoyed quite a lot from that wad was MAP08, that one above the clouds, everything else was kinda lame. MAP09 is also fun but not after the first playthrough.

[Anonymous No.6024862]

Any decent levels or episodes/map packs that don't have custom music and such? Just trying to get my frag on while I watch anime.

[Anonymous No.6024864]

Mercedes confirmed for based and Doompilled

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc9h_w5xogQ

[Anonymous No.6024870]

>>6024862
Fragport

[Anonymous No.6024874]

>>6024565
honestly I have no idea why it caught on, I just played it because everyone else did
that's the map pack that got me into modding actually, since I thought the item spawners were the coolest shit ever and I wanted to see how they worked
(hint: it's literally just SpawnSpot)

[Anonymous No.6024897]

Working on making the visual feedback for the Fatal Draw being ready to swing the moment you sheathe the weapon more apparent. Thank fuck for Skelegant.

[Anonymous No.6025028]

https://rave.dj/7Dx5Yf4wWD4t1Q

[Anonymous No.6025047]

>>6024825
This enemy fucking SUCKS

[Anonymous No.6025059]

>>6024051
Yeah, and I played some mods back in the day, like Starship Troopers. There was also this one mod I can't remember the name of, it was sort of MGS inspired, you could sneak up on enemies and break their necks, and I remember being impressed by the sliding doors that were rendered as animated textures, but it only had a single level when I played it. I think the only weapon you had was a SOCOM, too.

There was also this single episode map pack with a ton of assets swiped from other build games, it had "1999" in the title. Then there was another one that had some sort of a tacticool theme and had enemies with Counter-Strike sounds. I think that's about it.

I wonder if any of those have been updated since or if they've simply disappeared from the internet altogether.

[Anonymous No.6025113]

>>6024897
if you shake it more than three times you're just playing with it.

[Anonymous No.6025167]

Lotta progress on the map todays, bros

Don't worry about the darkness, ur way is bright

[Anonymous No.6025189]

Port of PC version of Powerslave/Exhumed released
https://forums.duke4.net/topic/10872-pcexhumed-exhumedpowerslave-pc-port

[Anonymous No.6025253]

Why do enemies in Blood do SO MUCH DAMAGE?

What the fuck is this design?

[Anonymous No.6025257]

>>6025253
Vasyanstvo/Vasyan-ery. Seen that Doom HD PBR pack or whatchamacallit? Blood is its counterpart in terms of gamedesign, some totally liek kewl shit slapped together. Some moron considered himself hot shit, Blood ensued. Same case as Brutal Doom, really.

[Anonymous No.6025259]

>>6025189
Cool.

[Anonymous No.6025306]

>>6025113
What's wrong with a little swordplay?

[Anonymous No.6025315]

>>6025306
You should go out and find a perky squire to cross swords with instead

[Anonymous No.6025319]

>>6025253
Monolith likes it rough.

[Anonymous No.6025357]

>>6025257
Ruski go back to 2ch

[Anonymous No.6025359]

[Anonymous No.6025370]

>>6025253
Build engine style design. Hitscanners do a ton of damage. The game starts hard and then gets easier for a bit because the "harder" enemies turn up more. It works (mostly because cultists have the best lines and guy on fire sprite so they're still fun to kill) but it makes the difficulty curve fucky.

[Anonymous No.6025374]

>>6025253
Enenies hit very hard, but so do you. Blood puts a lot of weight on dodging, maneuvering, and cover, Caleb is very fast and agile to enable that.
Crouch and jump and move a lot when facing hitscanners.

[Anonymous No.6025391]

>>6023994
you forgot the sewer count for civvie.

[Anonymous No.6025394]

>>6025359
rude

[Anonymous No.6025395]

>>6025359
cacute

[Anonymous No.6025405]

>>6025359
floating raspberries were made for bollie

[Anonymous No.6025408]

>>6025359
Only lacks a pain elemental flexing its ARMS.

[Anonymous No.6025415]

>>6023994
That’s a nice greasy bastard.

[Anonymous No.6025428]

Any recommendations for mods/wads with a very heavy anime influence? I already know about Demonsteele and La Tailor Girl, but I'd really like to find some more.

[Anonymous No.6025459]

>>6025428

[Anonymous No.6025497]

>>6025253
git gud

[Anonymous No.6025503]

Am I the only one who think Blood's leveldesign is too simple compared to Duke's? Less use of the Z axis, less SOS, less sense of place. Not that it's bad, just too simple. Paled colors don't help as well.

[Anonymous No.6025532]

>>6025189
>>6020331

[Anonymous No.6025581]

>>6025428
there's maps that were inspired by urotsukidoji

[Anonymous No.6025598]

>>6023994
is the guy behind civvie gordon ramsay?

[Anonymous No.6025624]

>>6025189
Oooh, nice. I assumed GDXhumed would release first.

[Anonymous No.6025637]

Does anyone else feel like Doom MP has become stagnate? It feels like it's all just been MM8BDM, Complex, Ghoul's, WDI, and the occasional AoW for years. It's not that I don't enjoy these, AoW is a ton of fun with 20+ players, but it feels like nothing is changing anymore. Maybe I've got rose tinted glasses on, but in the days of ZDaemon's peak popularity, and the early Skulltag days, there was a greater diversity of game modes, mods, and megawads, and also a lot more standard DM, TDM, CTF and COOP; simple stuff that didn't take a million scripts and wads to run.

[Anonymous No.6025639]

UT99 20th anniversary tomorrow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iznoMeB4GYE

[Anonymous No.6025648]

>>6025459
it's funny because most of the old cartoons were made for perverts

[Anonymous No.6025649]

>>6025428
stylish hell
DIO and Kira's Bizarre Adventure

[Anonymous No.6025657]

>>6025581
You just made my day.

[Anonymous No.6025758]

Its like pottery...

[Anonymous No.6025761]

>>6025639
YAY

[Anonymous No.6025782]

are there any doom maps that use jump pads?
i thought that was a way to make the player "jump" without actually doing it on their own
something like rise of the triad and even doom 16/eternal

[Anonymous No.6025807]

>>6025758
HALF LIFE CHADS WW@

[Anonymous No.6025817]

https://forums.duke4.net/topic/10872-/

[Anonymous No.6025821]

>>6025817
I really fucking hate discord.

[Anonymous No.6025827]

>>6025758
I bet the 5 people who actually play VR games will be really excited

[Anonymous No.6025842]

>>6025817
Unfortunately it lacks an options menu or quicksaving (inb4 "neither did the original" - I know, but its 2019), so ill be waiting until its updated further.

[Anonymous No.6025859]

>>6025428
Impie has a sailor moon mod or something on his website and there's also the giant shitpost that is TheCraftyTitan's doom hack. Final Doomer's JCP weapon set with the anime sounds mod is also nice.

[Anonymous No.6025937]

>>6025428
Play Touhou Doom with Project MSX.

[Anonymous No.6025959]

>>6025937
you're ruining MSX with garbage and I will fite u

[Anonymous No.6025969]

Okay finished 2016. Its really fucking bland.

Are there any modern fps worth a shot out there?

[Anonymous No.6025980]

>>6025937
I should have specified that I've already played Touhou Doom and wasn't a fan to say the least.

>>6025859
The Sailor Moon mod and Doom Hack are definitely what I'm looking for in terms of gameplay mods. They really have that early 00's charm to them that modern mods don't really have.

[Anonymous No.6025996]

I take it based on some of the responses here that Touhou Doom is not regarded well?

[Anonymous No.6026010]

>>6025758
You mean poetry?

[Anonymous No.6026020]

>>6025996
>responses
you mean two?

[Anonymous No.6026028]

>>6025821
Why?

[Anonymous No.6026038]

>>6026028
Its another evolution on the cancer that are internet circlejerk forums.
its full of the worst type of people. Here I was at first thinking the discord tranny, furry was just reactionary myth. I wish.

Oh I still lurk and use some discord channels for sure, and personal ones, but I really dislike everything about it.

[Anonymous No.6026040]

>>6025969
Doom 2016 is the best Ape Escape in years.

[Anonymous No.6026067]

Who else should be added?
I'm thinking Gordon Freeman and Turok.

[Anonymous No.6026072]

>>6026038
It's really really useful for getting/giving help for anything that has to do with modding. The bad thing about that convenience is that unlike a forum, it's not easy for someone to search the history and get an answer to some technical question months or years later.

[Anonymous No.6026074]

>>6026067
Raven software characters

[Anonymous No.6026082]

>>6026038
it's a chatroom, that's the term you should be looking for

[Anonymous No.6026083]

>>6026082
You are right.

[Anonymous No.6026084]

>>6026038
why are you retarded?
It's no worse than fucking IRC servers, except it's easier so you get more lower common denominator trash.

[Anonymous No.6026085]

>>6026067
Whos that one faggot that fucks dudes in the mouth? Add him. He was awesome.

[Anonymous No.6026089]

>>6026085
I, uhh... what?

[Anonymous No.6026090]

>>6026067
Is that nu wang? Fucking why?

[Anonymous No.6026097]

>>6026067
Corvus and Strife guy!

[Anonymous No.6026117]

>>6026067
Add Wang from Shadow Warrior.

[Anonymous No.6026118]

>>6026067
Prisoner 849 from Unreal.
Or either Malcolm or Xan from UT.

[Anonymous No.6026127]

>>6026067
Marshal from outlaws
Kyle Katarn
and yeah Corvus from Heretic or the Hexen boys.

[Anonymous No.6026132]

Need a good retro fps username for a new login

My standard username is taken. Any ideas? Been staring at this username screen for 15 minutes

[Anonymous No.6026135]

>>6026132
Br1ck

[Anonymous No.6026136]

>>6026132
ToppuKekku

[Anonymous No.6026139]

>>6026132
D3caDanc3

[Anonymous No.6026147]

>>6026132
CrashOverride

[Anonymous No.6026152]

>>6026132
/\/\3(#@-#17|3R

[Anonymous No.6026156]

>>6026132
1776erNiggerkillker

[Anonymous No.6026210]

pro half life when civvie

[Anonymous No.6026217]

>>6025969
How many times are you going to post this?

[Anonymous No.6026225]

>>6026217
What do you mean? Last time I had not played the game I only asked if it was worth it.

[Anonymous No.6026230]

>>6025969
I do, there's one called "Go fuck off someplace else to talk modern games instead of fishing for reactions on what you think of modern Doom games on the old Doom thread". It's free to play.

[Anonymous No.6026264]

rate my map

[Anonymous No.6026267]

>>6026038
It's literally just an amalgamation of IRC, Xfire, and Steam groups. Biggest difference is just fancy embedding and the post-smartphone internet crowd.

[Anonymous No.6026382]

>mfw playing dead wire
fuck this shit

[Anonymous No.6026408]

>>6025782
Zen Dynamics does that for a secret, but that's all that comes to mind. I'm sure there's more examples out there.

[Anonymous No.6026414]

>>6026010
No.

>>6026267
Oh man, I *completely* forgot XFire existed. Does it still?
But yes, this, anyone who thinks Discord is somehow new for all of its bad sides either has the memory of a goldfish or they're a contrarian zoomer.
Personally I think it's far better than IRC in most regards.

[Anonymous No.6026416]

Do I have to buy quake to play online against strangers? I'm not against it but what quake gane and which method has the best multi-player scene?

[Anonymous No.6026425]

Do you like caco?Y/N

[Anonymous No.6026431]

>>6026416
I'm pretty sure the pastebin or one of the mega links has downloads for Quakes 1-3. The games are all open source and not tied down to anything, you can simply download them and connect to internet servers.
As for the multiplayer scene itself, I'm not so sure.
Assuming you're only interested in multiplayer, here's my not very well informed list:
>Quake 1
You have ezQuake, and that's it, I think.
>Quake 2
You have Q2PRO and q2online
>Quake 3
the vanilla game still functions on modern hardware, but if you want VOIP and some QoL, then there's ioquake3.

[Anonymous No.6026448]

>>6026264
what game is this for?

[Anonymous No.6026449]

>>6026414
Like previously mentioned by anon, it's incredibly good for getting/giving feedback. Not like people can't give it in this thread, assuming the author of whatever lurks around to see it, but IRC/Discord tends to be much faster. Normally I don't have to wait for minutes between replies, which is why I personally prefer Discord for development stuff. As for the circlejerk, it ultimately depends on the admins. If you find a server where, say, politics are properly banned regardless of wing, you're gonna have a good time. Furries are unavoidable in this community in particular, but, again, up to the admins to make the place habitable. It's not an issue with the platform. There are sane places for sure. Never been there myself, but I'd fancy a guess and say the Hideous Destructor server is okay, for a Doom server.

[Anonymous No.6026463]

>>6026425
n

[Anonymous No.6026467]

>>6026463
i

[Anonymous No.6026471]

>>6026467
c
e

[Anonymous No.6026475]

>>6026414
>Oh man, I *completely* forgot XFire existed. Does it still?

It closed down in 2015.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150611014251/http://social.xfire.com/

[Anonymous No.6026476]

I think Doom 3, Bruiser it's fucking cool and i hope he gets back some day
he remains me to silent hill's monsters

[Anonymous No.6026480]

>>6026156
>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.6026497]

>>6026471
b
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a
t

[Anonymous No.6026550]

Lmao Half Life is getting BTFO so hard.
>>6025823

[Anonymous No.6026553]

>>6026550
K

[Anonymous No.6026581]

Anons, how do I find MIDIs for my Doom levels? I only use the soundtracks from other games such as Dooki Nooki, Heretic, Descent, etc. but I feel too limited.

[Anonymous No.6026582]

>>6025648
Wait what

[Anonymous No.6026594]

>>6026581
what kind of music are ya lookin fer

[Anonymous No.6026597]

>>6026581
>take midis from other wads
>take midi's from other retro games, not just fps
>search for midi packs on the ZDoom and Doomworld forums
>if you have a notable project, you could find someone to compose original music for it

[Anonymous No.6026598]

Half Life ruined fps.

[Anonymous No.6026604]

>>6026594
Anything good that's fitting with Doom, be either dark or groovy. As long as it's not cheap metal renditions like some tracks from HR2.
>>6026597
I could take midis from other wads, but it's a pain when I'm looking for something specific.
I'd like to know a website with better categorization of genres when it comes to midis, but apparently that doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.6026619]

>>6026448
EngineerDOOM

[Anonymous No.6026627]

[Anonymous No.6026635]

>>6026598
I don't give a shit about that new VR game, since I only like Half-Life at a surface level, but seeing you have a multi-board meltdown over the series in general because people are currently discussing something you don't like is very amusing.

[Anonymous No.6026658]

>>6026416
>>6026431
I'd say the best Quake game to play is Quake Live, which is pretty much just a soft-remaster of Quake 3.

[Anonymous No.6026661]

>>6026425
Y?

[Anonymous No.6026671]

>>6020331
Death Wish for Blood has been updated to version 1.6.9 as of today.

[Anonymous No.6026672]

>>6024037
Get the GOTY Edition from GOG if possible. Otherwise just look for a widescreen patch.

[Anonymous No.6026702]

>>6026627
Look at these fucking guys.

[Anonymous No.6026732]

Guys, can NBlood play intros in Linux or am i fucked?

[Anonymous No.6026747]

>>6026732
Yes.

[Anonymous No.6026760]

Maybe wrong thread, but
Have any of you tried playing Jedi Outcast on OpenJK?
I followed allinstrucions and this is what I get when I launch it.
The saber model and menu fonts do not render.
On OpenJK forums it says to run it with "+set com_jk2 1" but that does not work. The game still runs in Academy mode apparently.

[Anonymous No.6026792]

Trying to play Jedi Outcast vanilla
Getting this error on first level.
Apparently it happens when there's too many entities spawn on a modded map.
But I'm playing official single playeer map.

[Anonymous No.6026793]

>>6026747
Am i fucked?

[Anonymous No.6026795]

>>6026793
Yes, but not sexually

[Anonymous No.6026845]

>>6026795
Redundant, he already says he uses Linux.

[Anonymous No.6027032]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1ZOafpi5Eg

[Anonymous No.6027079]

>>6024037
if desu sex is a retro shooter then modern shooters are caveman art, its design philosophy is still more advanced than most games coming out today

[Anonymous No.6027081]

>>6026582
>he doesn't know about jewish influence in film making

[Anonymous No.6027085]

>>6026760
>>6026792
can't help you there chum(p), I played JK2 single on the original exe and multiplayer on JK2MV
both wokred flawlessly aside from hardware gamma being enabled by default

[Anonymous No.6027090]

Quake 3 engine is so fucking good I doubt even windows 10 can break it
it just works™ 1999-2019

[Anonymous No.6027116]

There, I think this is a little more clear that it doesn't need to be actually charged

>>>/wsg/3157665

[Anonymous No.6027121]

>>6027085
Im plaing JK2 single on original (GOG) exe, and get this message on the first level, but surprisingly not on any other levels (If I load them with a map comand)

Also any thoughts about enabling proper dismemberment without g_saberrealisticcombat? That one makkes saber duels way too easy.

[Anonymous No.6027234]

>>6020330
Anyone know good Doom 2 mod that feels like going through a medieval-style hellscape or like going through Dante's cycles of Hell?
I know that the original Doom 1 Hell levels felt kinda like it, but I want something that goes all-out and has all of the Hellish Medieval symbolism and everything.

[Anonymous No.6027281]

>>6027121
>That one makkes saber duels way too easy.
if you know how the game works (you've played multiplayer) they're already too easy

[Anonymous No.6027307]

>>6025253
That aside I LOVE the level design, it's very organic, intuitive and interconnected. Wacky Build engine shenanigans being (mostly) for secrets, which is how it should be, and they're good secrets too. I pretty much need to find all the life seeds to survive anyhow.

[Anonymous No.6027314]

>>6027307
hopefully you'll learn to dodge hitscan by the time you find all the secrets in Blood
some super secrets require you to be psychich or use noclip to find every sector of the map
even then the one in episode 2 is basically impossible to discover unless the level designer showed you where it's triggered

[Anonymous No.6027320]

What's the best way to play Shadow Warrior out of the ports available?

[Anonymous No.6027328]

So how's Doom Eternal?

[Anonymous No.6027345]

>>6027328
It got everything the other way around.
t. Ty Halderman

[Anonymous No.6027352]

>>6027345
based Ty, here's to chasing gilfs in heaven

[Anonymous No.6027356]

Reminder that Duke says Trans Rights.

[Anonymous No.6027360]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJPK1Tn7tTQ

[Anonymous No.6027363]

>>6027352
I heard that was apparently not true. Not that it ever made me think less of him, really.

[Anonymous No.6027383]

>>6027360
Fucking awesome.

>2 levels

Does it support usermaps at least? People could be bashing maps out for this shit.

[Anonymous No.6027389]

>>6027383
It's just using Darkplaces, isn't it? Unless they ripped out all of that functionality, then probably.

[Anonymous No.6027392]

Evilution Map 20 was a ballbuster, is the third end going to be as difficult or is that a peak?

[Anonymous No.6027402]

>>6027392
enjoy the super secret level

[Anonymous No.6027404]

>>6027402
I did actually, wasn't too hard aside from getting clapped by the Archvile in the tunnel area.

[Anonymous No.6027408]

>>6027360
why these animations are so bad ? And what's the deal with the generic stages.

[Anonymous No.6027416]

>>6027408
The industry is full of braindead unimaginative people on all levels.

[Anonymous No.6027434]

>>6027392
Uh, it'll be something. Tell us if you get stuck on Baron's Den.

[Anonymous No.6027436]

>>6027408
Aside from those first melee attacks, it didn't really look that bad to me.

[Anonymous No.6027440]

>>6027389
I think trenchbroom the mapping software already had the ability to map for it months ago lol

[Anonymous No.6027451]

>>6020331
Wrath:Aeon of Ruin early access is out
https://twitter.com/3DRealms/status/1197892935867666433?s=19

[Anonymous No.6027453]

>>6027360
>Was supposed to release finished 3 months ago
>Is now releasing early access with only 2 levels and half the weapons and not all the enemies
>Will slowly trickle out another 3 levels every few months until summer next year when the final 10 levels launch finished
>Mapping and mods confirmed not available in early access version

Fuck this gay shit

[Anonymous No.6027456]

>>6027453
They realized its a pointless game.

[Anonymous No.6027459]

So, Nes, if you don't mind my inquiring, what's your honest opinion on Chaser, if you just so happen to have played it? You know, that HL-like game with TotalRecall-alike plot?

[Anonymous No.6027462]

>>6022867

[Anonymous No.6027463]

>>6027451
Take all my money.

[Anonymous No.6027465]

Best programs for making MIDIs for a Doom Wad?

[Anonymous No.6027471]

>>6027463
>1 level/weapon/enemy every 2/3 months
>No mapping/mods
>No multiplayer

[Anonymous No.6027478]

>>6027463
>5 levels in total for the entire roadmap

[Anonymous No.6027482]

>>6027478
Apparently levels are huge though. So like maybe 1 level is the size of 2/3 quake levels

There's 15 levels in the entire game.

[Anonymous No.6027492]

>>6027463
>no MP
well, it problably was gonna be an arena, those die 2 month after relase.

[Anonymous No.6027526]

Around 2 hours of Wrath: Aeon of Ruin gameplay

https://youtu.be/zZ2niXNoi_8

[Anonymous No.6027538]

>>6027360
Good lord, and I thought Dusk was uninspired. This just looks like Quake and Hexen 2 mashed together and if they came out in 2002.

[Anonymous No.6027539]

>>6027538
>This just looks like Quake and Hexen 2 mashed together and if they came out in 2002.
and that's supposed to be bad?

[Anonymous No.6027542]

>>6027539
>devs being creatively bankrupt isn't a bad thing
I'm sure the gameplay will be fine, but it's hard to enjoy a game that doesn't have its own identity.

[Anonymous No.6027543]

>>6027539
I am with that anon. . Ion Fury is boring as shit, Dusk is just okay.

These should not only be nostalgia bait and add something else into them, anything.

[Anonymous No.6027556]

>>6027542
and what would qualify as "has its own identity" to you
seriously, I'm struggling to see the issue with a game that borrows ideas from other games

[Anonymous No.6027563]

>>6027556
You can just borrow. Or borrow and elevate it.

[Anonymous No.6027582]

>>6027556
I'm sure you'd agree with me that games like Doom, Duke, and Blood have their own identities despite taking influence from other games, right? Why can't modern throwback FPS do that without just blatantly copying something from an existing game?

[Anonymous No.6027586]

>>6027543
What's wrong with Ion?

[Anonymous No.6027592]

>>6027586
Enemies suck, Shelly is meh, weapon variety is bad. Levels are pretty.

I think developers need drugs again.

[Anonymous No.6027596]

>>6027592
>developers need drugs again
THIS. The guys at Id were high out of their mind when they made Doom and Quake.

[Anonymous No.6027601]

>>6027596
Yeah.

High on youth and imagination.

[Anonymous No.6027623]

>>6026067
Corvus with a Quartz Flask or Mystic Urn
One of the heroes of Hexen with a Quartz Flask or Krater of Might

[Anonymous No.6027627]

>>6027453
>Was supposed to release finished 3 months ago
Why make up things to be mad about? This isn't /v/.

[Anonymous No.6027637]

>>6027582
>>6027563
well I haven't played the game yet, but looking at that youtube video, I'm really digging the varied environments, nasty enemies, and the mixture of organic and runic weaponry. it's not like amid evil where everything is too shiny for its own good, or dusk which, uh... kinda looks like complete shit. you can see the influences, but I really do think it's got something good going here.
the weapons look fun to use, and it's quake engine, so the movement is guaranteed to be fun. I still really want to play this.

[Anonymous No.6027639]

>>6027543
Dusk, Ion Maiden, and Amid Evil are all fantastic.

[Anonymous No.6027673]

Wake me when Wrath gets cracked

[Anonymous No.6027679]

why are all the modern retro-inspired fps games that inorganically try to be something they're not so soulless?

[Anonymous No.6027680]

>>6024825
*sidesteps slightly*

[Anonymous No.6027693]

>>6026118
>>6026127
Seconding Kyle Katarn & Malcolm.

[Anonymous No.6027735]

>>6027673
It's on GOG.

[Anonymous No.6027739]

>>6027735
Shouldn't take long for someone to upload it then.

[Anonymous No.6027740]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZdE7JJox-U
So the gimmick to this map is there are 12 switches you have to press to build some stairs. It looks like the stairs build themselves starting at the top no matter what order the switches are pressed. How does this work in Boom?

[Anonymous No.6027741]

>>6026127
>Outlaws
>Dark Forces
based

[Anonymous No.6027749]

>>6027740
Forgot to clarify: the steps don't build themselves once you press all 12 switches. Each switch raises 1 step, but it always starts from the top step then progresses down to the bottom step no matter what order you pressed the switches in.

[Anonymous No.6027750]

>>6027749
oh, then that's easy
there's a special that lets you lower a sector by the shortest texture on one of its sides (I forget how it picks)
do that to lower barricades blocking a voodoo doll on a conveyor belt, and you've got the effect

[Anonymous No.6027753]

>>6027750
I'm afraid I don't quite get it yet. I'm sure it's simple but I can't picture in my head how it works. Mind explaining in a bit more detail?

[Anonymous No.6027756]

>>6027314
you don't "dodge" hitscan, it either hits you or not and it can be literally the frame you notice an enemy in build engine games. you just try to kill the enemy before they notice you or go into hiding till you can get a good shot but if the come out of a wall close by or something, you're pretty much guaranteed to get hit. crouching helps somewhat from what I've seen but not 100%.

[Anonymous No.6027761]

>>6027416
"The industry". I guess a random guy making his first game with the help of modders is "the industry".

[Anonymous No.6027773]

>>6027753
okay so I looked it up, and the line special finds the shortest lower texture found on any line of the sector, and lowers the floor by that amount
so you have a scrolling sector set up like the pic here, and every switch lowers each of those barricades by their shortest lower texture, which let's say is 32 units tall on all of them
so each switch lowers all the barricades by 32 units, the scrolling floor carries the voodoo doll to the right, and they cross lines raising each stair along the way (marked by those red lines)

the stairs themselves would probably just be a "raise to highest neighboring floor", with some joined sector trickery used to set the target height

[Anonymous No.6027775]

>>6027637
There I agree with you, dusk enemies are too low poly, Wrath looks better in that regard.

[Anonymous No.6027785]

>>6027773
Okay I think I got it now. When you say "shortest lower texture" does that mean the actual wall texture? Like it's using the dimensions of the texture to determine how much the sector moves?

[Anonymous No.6027790]

>>6027756
Hitscan isn't inherently brutal in the Build engine. It's not like the Doom engine, where games using it were built upon the foundation of a finished game; Build is just the necessities to build a 2.5D game. So every game made with it had very different code. You can dodge the hitscan of Enforcers and Pig Cops in Duke Nukem.

[Anonymous No.6027794]

>>6027785
yeah, it checks the height of the texture
so if you've got a square sector, it'll check the lower texture on the front side of all four lines, and if there's a back side, it'll check those four lower textures too
there's a hangup here in that "no texture" is just texture index 0, which AASTINKY/AASHITTY occupy, so any sides with a blank lower texture will use that texture's height. so because of that, you'll want to texture every lower sidedef to avoid weirdness, even if the lower texture won't ever be seen.

[Anonymous No.6027796]

>>6027794
Thank you for explaining all this!

[Anonymous No.6027802]

>>6025253
I empathize with you anon, its very rough. Its a different time. You get good envetually.
I actually think designers thought about that and started giving fucking tons of napalm in later episodes.

You CANT be passive in blood, although you can mobile cautious for lack of a better term.

[Anonymous No.6027817]

HUH

[Anonymous No.6027829]

>>6027817
ADMIN ABUSE ADMIN ABUSE

[Anonymous No.6027838]

>>6027817
AMAZING

[Anonymous No.6027839]

https://www.mediafire.com/file/8wjgc5ysa8jlbme/setup_wrath_aeon_of_ruin_ea_1.0.0_%2834117%29.exe/file

it's here lads

[Anonymous No.6027842]

>>6027839
Cute dolphin porn.

[Anonymous No.6027845]

>>6026067
>>6027693
>>6026127
We want Kyle Katarn because FUKC star wars

>>6026117
they added nu-wang by mistake

[Anonymous No.6027846]

>>6027839
thanks for the dolphin fix doc

[Anonymous No.6027848]

>>6027842
>>6027846

Cant believe people still talk about dolphin porn thread, I was in the original one. Man Its 2019 and Illusion is still trash.

>>6027817
Very nice.

[Anonymous No.6027870]

>>6027848
>Cant believe people still talk about dolphin porn thread, I was in the original one
got an archive link? I thought stalker general on /vg/ was the orginial but there's gotta be older bamboozles

[Anonymous No.6027875]

>>6026627
>That bottom right caco.

DO-THE-LALALALALALALAAAAaaaa.

[Anonymous No.6027883]

6027408

Yeah it totally sucks, sure is awesome dabbing on those idiots, please tell me your username so i can upboat you!

you will die, alone, poor, diseased and unloved...

[Anonymous No.6027887]

>>6027870
No.

The original thread was actually about a crap forgotten and abandoned porn game made on an 3d engine for dentists, these guys were pioneers in the scamming now in patreon now that I think of it, with half finished porn games.

Everybody was waiting for either a demo or the full release dont remember and some anon dropped the dolphin porn and everything went to shit.

[Anonymous No.6027889]

>>6027883
incredible cope

[Anonymous No.6027912]

>>6027839
My nigger. Thanks a lot.
based

[Anonymous No.6027929]

>>6027839
so fucking based thank you

[Marisa Kirisame !!FrQCaIaTfJw No.6027930]

>>6027817
YEET

[Anonymous No.6027952]

>>6027930
secure tripcodes are for jerks

[Anonymous No.6027954]

>>6027839
gotta say it is not very good, in the vein of dusk

[Anonymous No.6027960]

>>6027930
Why doesn't the actor get a blockingline pointer if I mash it up against one single sided linedef? :(
I can't grind monsters down like this.

[Anonymous No.6027969]

>>6027870
That was the COC leak wasn't it?

[Anonymous No.6027995]

>>6027465
It's called buying a MIDI keyboard

[Anonymous No.6028012]

>>6027969
ayy

[Anonymous No.6028060]

>>6027790
well I haven't played Duke in ages but I know about the 1-frame hits in SW and Blood pretty well, my ass is still sore.

[Anonymous No.6028065]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8eJDA6sXQI

[Anonymous No.6028072]

Wow. Some of you are too fucking cynical for your own good. Wrath is fucking EXCELLENT. This is easily better than Ion Fury or Dusk (which I also like). The visuals are fucking beautiful but still look old-school, every weapon is useful & satisfying, the levels are MASSIVE, and it's just fucking fun to play. The gameplay is classic shit, but unlike Quake you've got usable inventory items and alt-fires. Also unlike Quake the enemies are greater in number but easier to kill. I swear, if a retro-style game is TOO retro you people complain that it's uncreative, but if it's not retro ENOUGH then you complain it's poser shit.
I'm not kidding about the levels' size btw. There's only 2 levels in this early access release, but it took me like an hour just to finish one. The design was mostly linear, but was still fun to explore and progress through.
If you're at all decent at old-school shooters you're gonna want hard mode, medium is easy.

[Anonymous No.6028079]

>>6028072
I dont see cynicism, just people that know what to expect. And it played out as they saw it.

>The design was mostly linear

You said it yourself.

[Anonymous No.6028096]

Why hasn't there been as much effort with Shadow Warrior source ports as Duke 3D? Was it just less popular?

[Anonymous No.6028098]

>>6028072
It looks cool yeah.
Wish it was more Hexen and less Quake. It's still boring.

>>6028096
I always felt Shadow Warrior is the less fluid and fun to play of the build trio. Not by much, but hey it has nukes.

[Anonymous No.6028105]

>>6027839
I finished the snow level. I can appreciate the level design, but enemies are pretty boring and it bothers me how you can't queue a weapon switch while the shotgun is reloading.
There's too many Soul Tethers; I was maxed out on them for most of my ~hour playing on hard.
You can't rebind weapon keys and the fov doesn't go above 100 because ???.

[Anonymous No.6028120]

>>6028105
Yes. At least the enemy models are not as shit as dusk.

[Anonymous No.6028125]

>>6028105
>There's too many Soul Tethers; I was maxed out on them for most of my ~hour playing on hard.
The soul tether system seems pretty unnecessary since there's more than enough per level for a reasonable amount of saves, so you might as well just have regular quicksaves. If people abuse quicksaves, that should be their choice.
>You can't rebind weapon keys and the fov doesn't go above 100 because ???.
You can rebind weapon keys, its right there in the controls menu. FOV you can increase arbitrarily with the console. But to open the console you need to bind a key to it in the cfg file.

[Anonymous No.6028129]

Doom Eternal just came out and it looks freaking epic!!!!

[Anonymous No.6028137]

>>6028125
They aren't even used up when you do die, they're always there. I was watching a stream earlier and noticed there were a ton of tethers, but I figured that was just because he was playing on normal. I expected hard to severely limit the amount of tethers you get to actually make it challenging. I don't think I should ever have a full inventory of them.
>You can rebind weapon keys
I would click it, press a button, then the menu would close without making any changes. Maybe that's something I need to change in a config file as well.

[Anonymous No.6028142]

>>6028125
I love the melee weapon makes me imagine you could now actually do a melee focused game like this,unlike shitty amid evil.

Also the alt for the shotgun is really fucking crap.

As with Ion Fury, it looks pretty.

[Anonymous No.6028143]

>>6028129
>he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.6028171]

>>6027817
now implement prop flying

[Anonymous No.6028185]

>>6028171
Fun idea. Tried, but the straightforward method didn't work. Will require hacks

[Anonymous No.6028194]

When will this board admit that half life is garbage and inferior to other retro fps?

[Anonymous No.6028206]

>>6028194
When you take your medication and report back to your probation officer.

[Anonymous No.6028248]

[Anonymous No.6028286]

AHHHH WHY IS HALF-LIFE'S HARD DIFFICULTY SUCH A CUNT
WHY DOES A MARINE TAKE 4 SHOTGUN SHELLS FROM EXTREMELY CLOSE RANGE
I WANT OFF BLACK MESA WILD RAIL

[Anonymous No.6028295]

>>6028129
I'm playing sad ukelele, don't remind me.

[Anonymous No.6028296]

>>6027930
kys yourself tripfaggot

[Anonymous No.6028307]

>>6028248
based

[Anonymous No.6028308]

>>6028129
I'm disappointed most that they didn't do anything today. No trailer, no screenshots, not even a short 2-second gif that they do every once in a while. The last post was 2 days ago.

[Anonymous No.6028309]

>>6028296
that tripfag makes neat mods, kill yourself

[Anonymous No.6028336]

>>6028072
Yup, shills are here

[Anonymous No.6028339]

What are some good B-tier megawads? I've been playing through ULTIMA2b.wad, (not sure what the actual name of the mod is) and I'm really enjoying it.

[Anonymous No.6028346]

>>6028336
You ever entertain the thought that he doesn't have the same standards as you?

[Anonymous No.6028347]

>>6028346
I never said anything about standard. His post reads like someone at a marketing department trying to sell something on the first day of their internship

[Anonymous No.6028374]

>>6027478
Better than we got with Ion Fury's early access.

[Anonymous No.6028375]

>>6027538
What the fuck do you want, dude?

[Anonymous No.6028378]

>>6028374
>my unfinished game is better than your unfinished game
Is this what zoomers argue over now?

[Anonymous No.6028391]

>>6027817

I desperately want to map for a system shock doom mod

[Anonymous No.6028440]

>>6028347
I guess I'm not as cynical as you.

[Anonymous No.6028443]

Wrath is good, movement is a bit different than quake but that's ok

[Anonymous No.6028541]

>>6027582
Because those games where the first of the genre and were able to do themes not done before.

It's 25+ years later and everything been fucking done already

[Anonymous No.6028590]

>>6020940
You are blessed poster here.

[Anonymous No.6028592]

>>6028541
>It's 25+ years later and everything been fucking done already

I mean, it really hasn't. But it's consistantly proven to be a very popular type of setting.

[Anonymous No.6028661]

>>6028590

[Anonymous No.6028662]

>>6028661
sauce on the at invasion mod

[Anonymous No.6028663]

>>6028662
https://unreal.shaungoeppinger.com/blood-monsters-v1/
Search around the site and you'll find plenty more than that.
If you want any of them to work though, you'll need either Satore Monster Pack
https://unreal.shaungoeppinger.com/install-satore-monster-pack-v120-custom-monsters/

or InvasionPro. Personally I like this one better.
https://unreal.shaungoeppinger.com/invasionpro-v1_7/

[Anonymous No.6028738]

>>6025758
>VR headset prices hiked
>just when I wanted to get a headset

[Anonymous No.6028834]

>>6027586
>>6027592
>>6027639
Ion Maiden is boring. 2/3 of the enemy roster is functionally the same, weapons aside from bowling bomb are completely uninspired, and even BBomb is unoriginal since it's from previous Bombshell title.
Levels too feel samy due to number of reasons.
It's all competently done, but it's boring.

For all its faults Dusk has SOME imagination put into it.

And I like Amid Evil the most out of all 3.

[Anonymous No.6028839]

>>6027817
Now make them take damage when you bash them against walls/floor/ceiling.
And the altfire that shakes them for you.

Then we make a first/third person Mischief Makers remake

[Anonymous No.6028928]

>>6027453
>JMAA
lol

[Anonymous No.6028943]

>>6027817
Any mods with this kind of deadzone aiming?

[Anonymous No.6028950]

>>6028391
I'd be happy to assist with any systems you'd need.

[Marisa Kirisame !!FrQCaIaTfJw No.6028962]

>>6027960
BlockingLine is fucking weird, seriously. It has a tendency to either not point to anything or point to a two-sided line that's crossable but not blocking.

[Anonymous No.6028982]

>>6028096
Redux is pretty much good enough

[Anonymous No.6028990]

>>6028839
I would, but I seriously don't know how. There are supposed pointers to "blockingline" and "blockingmobj" for walls and other actors respectively, but there's nothing there even when I'm obviously pushing the monster into something.

>>6028943
I don't know of any full mods with it, but I've seen some pk3's meant as a resource to build one on.

>>6028962
Yeah exactly. The zombies on the map01 stairs get shredded, but I can't do anything to the ones in the corridor unless I use a corner or door.

[Marisa Kirisame !!FrQCaIaTfJw No.6029004]

>>6028990
I say what we need is virtual functions for directly handling collision. We have Touch for other actors, but nothing for hitting walls or planes.

[Anonymous No.6029005]

>>6028990
>I seriously don't know how
Maybe: Constantly check for velocity of the target, and keep record of the 2-3 last ticks
Make target (or holding beam) do the wall checks via short range hitscans/melee attacks/whatever other method, with range dependent on the radius of the held being.
If the hitscan connects that means it hits the wall, check the prior velocity, if was high enough do damage based on velocity.

Sure its cumbersome and inelegant, but should do the job.

[Anonymous No.6029009]

>>6029005
Hm yeah I could use Linetracer. It will fail to detect when only a corner of the held actor is about to collide with something, but it would be better than nothing.

[Anonymous No.6029020]

>>6027451
Game is a glorified quake mod

>Lack of vision
>Gimmicky mechanics
>stages are too big and lack objectivity
>the enemies make no sense
>bland enviroment
>from a game who uses the base quake, the filesize is too big

bland, boring and uninspired. Fanboys, youtubers and ''experts'' killed more one promising project

[Anonymous No.6029052]

>>6029020
>Fanboys, youtubers and ''experts'' killed more one promising project
Sorry bro, you lost me there, I was unaware there was anything to kill to begin with.

[Anonymous No.6029061]

>>6029020
>Gimmicky mechanics
Such as?

[Anonymous No.6029107]

make a new thread you retarded 30yo physically 60yo mentally boomers

[Anonymous No.6029141]

>>6029107
whoever does it, don't fuck up the news post and previous thread link

[Anonymous No.6029146]

>>6020330
Is there a way to see doors in the automap in Blood? Hopefully have key doors marked respectively too?

[Anonymous No.6029148]

just explore you braindead doomer

[Anonymous No.6029184]

>>6027586
Ion Fury feels like an extended shareware to me. Like the devs only took inspiration from LA Meltdown and Enter The Wang, and nothing else from those games.

[Anonymous No.6029191]

>>6028339
Marswar is a really underrated megawad from the 90's. Even get to fight Bill Gates.

[Anonymous No.6029225]

>>6028834
I agree Dusk has some love into it, the music etc, maybe a sequel would improve some stuff. Hence why I am super hyped for gloomwood.
I am gonna fucking become hysterical if a Thief inspired game gets some love.


Personally I think they all stand on the same level but dont go above it. Ion Maiden, I really dislike Amid Evil aesthetics and weapons.

I just wish these retro inspired fps got some ideas on them. The again when 2d retro games started being amde, only after a while you started getting the really good ones.

[Anonymous No.6029238]

thief is absolute shite
the entire series is rendered obsolete by hitman

[Anonymous No.6029243]

>>6029238
You're right

>Sitff animations
>boring enviroments
>dated gameplay

Even Dishonored is more playable

[Anonymous No.6029262]

One time, i had a dream that was like this:
>Map is Dead Simple but with bright blue textures
>It plays like the original but after you kill the Arachnotrons, walls lower to reveal a giant Revenant chasing the player
>The big skelly isn't just a stretched up Revenant, his sprites are detailed and well drawn
>Find a room with some invulsphere and just shoot plasma at him in some balcony like area, until he explodes
>Go to a portal that just opened
>Another copy of Dead Simple but it's brown and orange, as if it was using Quake textures
>There's a bunch of lost souls with different colors
>They try to push me from hitting the switch but i still do it, even with them trying to drag me from it

[Anonymous No.6029275]

>>6029238
>>6029243
Okay.

Hl bashing is not fun anymore?

[Anonymous No.6029278]

>1993
>First 10 levels for free

>2019
>First 2 levels for $20

[Anonymous No.6029314]

>>6029278
It made me so angry when they tried to use Doom's shareware as an excuse for a time-limited one-level demo for Doom 4.

[Anonymous No.6029352]

Well, I've been playing Wrath and I'm sad to say I couldn't be bothered to play more than one level of it.

The game looks great, but its got no personality at all. I can't put my finger on it, but something is horribly, horribly missing.

I played through all of the Arcane Dimensions mod this week, and it was as fresh as fuck. I come to this, and... It feels like it's brought absolutely nothing to table.

I really thought this was gonna be 'the one', but I honestly prefered Ion Fury 10 times over this.

[Anonymous No.6029373]

>>6029020
Literally nothing in this post makes sense. Im admittedly a fan of the game already but I could understand if you had logical criticisms. What the fuck is "objectivity" in level design? Do you speak English natively? And what the fuck do youtubers have to do with this game? How do the enemies not "make sense" in comparison to, say, Quake enemies?

[Anonymous No.6029380]

>if you don't like aeon of reddit you're an esl retard
sasuga

[Anonymous No.6029384]

>>6029352
To me its as bland as Ion Fury.
These retro shooters are made by oatmeal people.

[Anonymous No.6029386]

>>6029380
And he doesn't even know how to reply. Sad!

[Anonymous No.6029391]

>>6029373

I think he means the ass licking gmanlives and civvie do to them.
If you listen to them its like all these retro inspired shooters are absolutely ground breaking masterpieces of vision and imagination.
They are simply not.

[Anonymous No.6029454]

Wrath is as good as I hoped. Really wish the entire game dropped but it's not like I have enough free time to play it all anyway

[Anonymous No.6029459]

>>6029352
To me it looks and feel way better than both quake and especially IF, that piece of fucking shit
Like it's not even a contest honestly. Maybe the monsters could be better if anything.

[Anonymous No.6029460]

>>6029454
good thing you'll need about 4h total to play it once it drops since the release has about 30-60 minutes of playtime

[Anonymous No.6029538]

>>6020330
Doom 2 but as Robocop.

[Anonymous No.6029558]

>>6029538
like doom 2 but robocop replaces doomguy, or the entirety of doom 2s story but instead of demons and the like it's actually just criminals and robocop?
i don't think i can take that many city levels, regardless.

[Anonymous No.6029581]

>>6029538
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=64130

[Anonymous No.6029704]

>>6020330
make a new thread

[Anonymous No.6029756]

What IWAD do I use for most wads? I've been using DOOM2.wad but for older PWADs it acts strange on some maps

[Anonymous No.6029759]

>>6029756
read the readme's, reatard

[Anonymous No.6029770]

>>6029756
You really just need to either read the readme or look up the wad online. Some use Doom 2, some use Ultimate Doom, some are compatible with multiple iwads.

[Anonymous No.6029791]

>>6029770
Compendium doesn't supply the readmes. For the ones I was having trouble with, the wiki says doom 2, and I'm running latest gzdoom, even fucked with compatibility settings, so I give up

[Anonymous No.6029806]

>>6029791
If you're using Compendium, then I would fathom you should only need Doom 2. If you're seeing issues, it might be worth reporting them to Compendium's author. It's possible that it isn't you, but the wad.