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Anonymous Fri May 3 22:07:42 2013 No.602008 [Reply] [Original]

So I just found out that a couple months ago the creator of The Neverhood has decided to make a "spiritual successor" - and not a direct sequel due to licensing issues with EA - with two colleagues from both Neverhood and Earthworm Jim and with the original musician, and will take it to Kickstarter.

For some reason /vr/ thinks my post with the address is spam - search it, there's tons of links to the subject.

It's a cynical, cruel and terrible time we live in, when the actual creator of your childhood's favorite game has declared that, with no ties to publishers, he's making another game of that kind, and you're relieved to learn THAT HE WON'T TOUCH THE ORIGINAL. I should be disappointed to hear that I won't get the Neverhood 2 (Skullmonkeys doesn't count), not relieved that he can't possibly violate it's corpse like others have done to theirs! also the horrible realization that EA has rights to the Neverhood franchise please don't tell them please don't I'm begging you keep this to yourself please

Your opinions on this?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 3 22:09:12 2013 No.602020 >>602008 Just to add, he asks the game's fans ON FACEBOOK of all fucking places to give him suggestions to the game; I don't have the nerve to read through them. facebook,com/TheNeverhoodGame/posts/10151796057989466

>>	Anonymous Fri May 3 22:11:12 2013 No.602026 >>602008 Oh, so that's how to bypass the filters. Here: polygon,com/2013/3/13/4101426/the-neverhoods-spiritual-successor-is-in-the-works

>>	Anonymous Fri May 3 22:12:43 2013 No.602029 >>602008 >The original musician Nice, I never even touched the game, but the soundtrack is too much fun to listen to.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 3 22:13:43 2013 No.602034 File: 32 KB, 1028x643, 1362855972261.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm just glad we're getting something new related to The Neverhood >>602029 Do it right now

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Anonymous Fri May 3 22:15:43 2013 No.602046

>>602029

Terry Tailor, if memory serves.
Some time ago he was near bankruptcy and he and his family almost lost their home and he had medical bills to pay, and his fans donated him enough money to make it through. I still listen to the OST from time to time, it has some great pieces.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 3 22:18:42 2013 No.602062 This is one of those games that I keep putting off playing. It looks so wonderful.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 3 22:25:13 2013 No.602094 >>602034 ...how

>>	Anonymous Fri May 3 22:28:12 2013 No.602114 >>602062 Don't. I never met or spoken to someone who finished the game who didn't love it. It's a masterpiece.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 00:13:44 2013 No.602537 >>602094 By buying, installing and playing it! Downloading is an option too, and last time I ran it there were little-to-no glitching and whatnot with Win7.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 06:20:32 2013 No.603884 >>602537 Download and install. Run in compatibility mode to Win95. BAM! Done.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 06:22:32 2013 No.603893 File: 105 KB, 540x432, beans beans.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I loved Skull Monkeys. Still haven't played Neverhood, though. Would love to see more of the same though.

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Anonymous Sat May 4 06:26:32 2013 No.603901

>>603893
>I loved Skull Monkeys. Still haven't played Neverhood, though.

They're not even the same type of game. Reading through comments on news sites regarding this I realize just how many of them never even HEARD of the original Neverhood and only played Skullmonkeys. Fucking console peasants that don't also play PC, they're the reason PC players get bad console ports and all major publishers design games tailored to console controllers and hardware.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 06:30:32 2013 No.603909 File: 117 KB, 353x438, 1240370798712.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>602008 >It's a cynical, cruel and terrible time we live in

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 06:35:32 2013 No.603916 >>603901 Pretty sure Neverhood is a platformer too 0/10

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 06:36:32 2013 No.603920 FUCK YEAH NEVERHOOD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TsXa7ci7Ig

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 06:36:32 2013 No.603921 >>603916 -20/10

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 06:37:32 2013 No.603923 >>602046 >almost lost their home and he had medical bills to pay >America

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 06:37:32 2013 No.603927 File: 975 KB, 256x192, 1366468141069.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>603916

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 06:39:32 2013 No.603932 File: 8 KB, 250x250, 1314920562600.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>603916

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 06:41:32 2013 No.603936 Who are those colleagues?

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Anonymous Sat May 4 06:43:32 2013 No.603945

>>603936
Ed Schofield and Mike Dietz, both worked with him on Earthworm Jim and The Neverhood. And Terry fucking Taylor. Like, the guy that came up with the Sound Effects Number 32 track for the underwater radio station:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7euOoTnfync<wbr>

>>	script writer kibe Sat May 4 06:45:32 2013 No.603948 File: 53 KB, 493x500, 196804_41814_front.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >never got to play The Neverhood >never got to play Skull Monkeys >grew up playing Boom Bots instead Life is a cruel bitch sometimes

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 06:51:32 2013 No.603968 >>603948 Why haven't you played The Neverhood yet? Do it now!

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 06:55:32 2013 No.603979 Neverhood is my favorite logical adventure game. There, I said it. It may not be the hardest, but it's the best.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 06:58:32 2013 No.603984 >>603979 It's one of the best games ever made, period.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 06:58:32 2013 No.603990 Neverhood is so short and easy and good, everyone should play it. There's no excuse.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 07:08:32 2013 No.604008 >>603945 >Ed Schofield and Mike Dietz Nice. Thanks for the info.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 07:10:32 2013 No.604013 File: 43 KB, 445x320, 1337303236875.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>603990

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 07:19:32 2013 No.604039 File: 4 KB, 129x131, shjit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] some game

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 07:26:32 2013 No.604046 >>604039 >GameSpot

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 07:26:32 2013 No.604048 File: 34 KB, 420x375, faggot1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>604039 >baby's first trolling

>>	None !hr4Cbo/9Bc Sat May 4 13:39:32 2013 No.605372 >>602046 >medical bills Damn 'Murica. Here's Klaymen's Theme to cheer y'all up. >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aRMSqCxk6I

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 15:35:32 2013 No.605960 >>605372 Obligatory cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XZ4dGBMrew

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 16:54:32 2013 No.606534 File: 1.05 MB, 1920x1080, The Neverhood.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>603901 >Trying to turn this into "PC vs Console" Please don't.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 16:58:32 2013 No.606553 >>605372 I used to have this song set up as my alarm on my phone so whenever I heard it I always think of waking up at 5 am getting ready for work. Now i hate it what a horrible thing to do

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 17:00:32 2013 No.606559 >>606553 I had it as a ringtone for a close friend, the opposite happened.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 17:00:32 2013 No.606562 In a sense, Neverhood and EWJ are more /b/ than /vr/, to be honest.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 17:02:32 2013 No.606578 >>606562 But Earthworm Jim is funny, /b/ isn't.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 17:03:32 2013 No.606579 >>603901 I always thought it was because PC gamers were more than willing to buy shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 17:09:32 2013 No.606606 >>606562 That makes no sense whatsoever.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 17:12:32 2013 No.606618 So, what IS your opinion on the spiritual successor to the game, taking suggestions from facebook in our day and age? I get the sense that not many here actually played the Neverhood.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 17:21:32 2013 No.606656 >>606618 I hope they don't listen to the retards too much and are just using it as a way of drumming up interest.

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Anonymous Sat May 4 17:26:32 2013 No.606681

>>606618
It's a great way for them to generate interest and attract new fans. It never ceases to amuse me how afraid fans are of fans and their interaction with the creators. As if the new fans and their suggestions are somehow going to "force" them to fuck it up.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 17:29:32 2013 No.606689 >>606681 Yeah, when has pandering to fans ever backfired?

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Anonymous Sat May 4 17:38:32 2013 No.606732
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>>606681
It has happened before and can happen again.
Of course you'd be cautious if it's something you hold dear could be directly influenced by people who aren't as familiar with it.

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Anonymous Sat May 4 17:54:32 2013 No.606813

>>602020
> It would be very cool if there were RPG elements, like choosing what you want to say and more possibilities what to do in certain situation, more possibilities how to solve a problem. And that your decisions have consequences.
Also, I would be very happy If I was able to create my very own character in the beginning, to be able to adjust his apperiance and name him just like in roleplay-based games
>And please add some vehicles
> Romantic relationship indeed!

Damn you Ondra Shisco Kachel

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Anonymous Sat May 4 18:30:32 2013 No.606997
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>>606813
I dare not look into those comment - are those real? Because if so, I'm going to fucking vomit.

>>606681
You want to know why old fans are cautious whenever new "fans" are coming in? Because more often than not the new fans are younger, from a broader audience and have twisted expectations and assumptions on what video games are and how they should be developed. Think about the new audience Thi4f is addressing and what that does to the game's development and how it harms the series. The reason I'm relieved that it's not a sequel to the Neverhood is because of comments like these >>606813, that would have wanted to make Klayman a female, let Hoborg cover-shoot with Klogg and make Big Robot Bill and Willie gay lovers. These people would have shit all over my beloved childhood memories without even noticing, thinking they're just as entitled to affect the game's developemtn.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 18:32:32 2013 No.607001 File: 31 KB, 405x720, BANANANANANANA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>606689 Like, all the time

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Anonymous Sat May 4 19:44:41 2013 No.607365

>>606689
>>607001
Examples when original creators are involved and making the thing on their own terms?

>>606732
Newsflash: In the unlikely event they'll fuck it up beyond redemption the thing you hold dear won't disappear or be sullied unless you let it get to you that way.

>>606997
>Think about the new audience Thi4f is addressing and what that does to the game's development and how it harms the series.

A tryhard publisher funded shoehorning of a dead franchise into something trying to hook the Assassin's Creed crowd, destined for failure, fan alienation and publisher loss because the idiots ruining things there base everything on snake sales man marketing pile charts and out of context focus group tests that ignore fan input, old and new =/= A small kickstarter project made by the original creators of a franchise trying to recapture the same spirit but not above interacting with fans and more than definitely intelligent enough to separate good, creative ideas from the typical internet insanity.

The reason Thi4f, DMC and the like keep happening is because of the publisher run model which does everything to ignore fans (old and new), and not the other way around.