eight bits is all the world will ever need

[Anonymous No.6018501]

What is your favourite 8-bit computer?
..and why is it the Commodore 64 - one of the best selling home computers of all time?
> apple, atari & spectrum fanbois eternally btfo

[Anonymous No.6018542]

Because the Commodore had great hardware, extremely competitive pricing, and unlike fucking Atari they did not hide crucial design details, specifications, and schematics from third parties. Also great for the time sound chip.

[Anonymous No.6018570]

C64 was maybe the first computer I ever saw with my own eyes. It was being deprecated at my elementary school (I grew up poor, in a poor neighborhood, but the schools had a shit ton of funding) and I remember the teachers saying something along the lines of "only one teacher here actually knows how to use this anyway" and they let the kids screw around on it that day before it was trashed.
It was only later that I realized that the computer that so interested me back then was a C64. I saw one in a photo, noticed the funky keycap legends, and was like "A ha! I remember that!"

[Anonymous No.6018572]

I don't get Spectrum fans, the fraphics are too fucking ugly, the music is screeching earrape and the gameplay is fucking trash. Give me a C64 anyday

[Anonymous No.6018672]

>>6018501
>ITT: a console warrior zoomer shitposts about computers more than twice his age

[Anonymous No.6018674]

>>6018672
reality: 40yo boomer. been using it since 1986. zoomers cannot comprehend these times or how good the 64 was.

[Anonymous No.6018686]

>>6018674
I'm 18 and I wrote >>6018542, how close do I "comprehend it" boomer?

[Anonymous No.6018804]

I love my Atari 800XL. Logging into a BBS or using it as a UNIX terminal is a blast, and the game library is quite good as well.

[Anonymous No.6018853]

Computers had a really good rep before the internet became a thing. It was the machine for "studying", unlike those godless consoles and satanic television. It was a common gift from overprotective parents to ensure their kids would get to an Ivy league uni and "become someone in life".

Commodore capitalized on this on their ads, and it worked absurdly well. So well that it was a factor on the 1983 crash of (console) games.

But the thing with the Commodore is that it was primarily for games. It was even sold at toy stores alongside consoles and board games instead of specialized electronic stores. Theoretically, being a computer, it COULD be used for work, but in practice, the reality was very different.

Businesses that wanted to save money by equipping their offices with Commodores would soon realize they made a terrible mistake. For work, there was only one choice, the IBM PC. Expensive, ostensibly a "serious" machine NOT for fun and games, and with a "that's dad's computer, don't touch it, kids" message.

[Anonymous No.6019706]

>>6018501
The MSX2

[Anonymous No.6019717]

>>6018572
i am a speccy fan simply because the 48K and 128K+2 were my first home computers

loved bomb jack and escape form pulsar 7

[Anonymous No.6019827]

>>6018672
>reality: 12yo LARPer

[Anonymous No.6021678]

>>6018501
>8bit
never owned a computer, but I did have a NES. I had windows 3.1 for a 16-bit computer. Used to play duke nukem and colonization and commander keen. It was fucking awesome.

[Anonymous No.6021705]

>>6018572
On a general note, games made for computers often were made for the Spectrum in mind and were better in gameplay (eg. Target Renegade) and the C64 was better for arcade ports (eg. Out Run).
Of course there are exceptions for both cases. Also, color clash is fucking kino, C64 sprites often don't have outlines and makes the whole thing look messy.

[Anonymous No.6021776]

>>6018501
>What is your favourite 8-bit computer?
Amstrad CPC 464

I also have a ZX-Spectrum but for some reason the Amstrad always had my heart.

[Anonymous No.6022138]

>>6018501
8-bit guy is designing a new 8-bit computer called the Commander x16

[Anonymous No.6022170]

Video of the prototype board 8-bit guy is designing for a 8-bit computer.

It's basically a more powerful vic-20 that can be coded in c64 style basic.

The commander x-16 should be easy to make games for.

https://youtu.be/sg-6Cjzzg8s

[Anonymous No.6022219]

Someone is allready coding flappy Bird for the commander x-16

https://youtu.be/edLBOZEZv0A

[Anonymous No.6022305]

>>6022170
>45 mins of cringe

>reddit spaced cringe

>it's basically retarded cringe

>i couldn't make a game in super mario maker

>heres that 45 mins of cringe

Cringe

>>6022219
>Someone is already cringing

>epic fail cringe

More than one "Someone" is cringing

[Anonymous No.6022318]

>>6022305
Anon, go fuck yourself

[Anonymous No.6022347]

>>6022305
You do realize him going backwards with computers will pull technology forward and some great 8bit games and experiences might happen.

I'm planning on designing some games for it if it has the Yamaha sound chip plus the Sid sound chips.

[Anonymous No.6022423]

>>6022305
I can't tell if you reddit spaced to point out his reddit spacing, but you sound like a retard anyway.

[Anonymous No.6022430]

>>6018501
well OP , many reasons.
based 6502, SID & VIC
the colour pallet
the music, hubbard, daglish etc
massive library of games and software
nostalgia
last ninja
Zzap64!
Only problem with 64 is that it lacks 80 column mode.

[Anonymous No.6022550]

>>6021705
At least they were colored correctly, unlike your crappy platform that looked like some kid doodles on MS paint

[Anonymous No.6022630]

>>6022347
I do realize you are a LARPing fuckwit what will never make anything. Except your parents disappointed.
>I'm planning on
lololol

>>6022423
>i can't tell if i'm retarded or if i'm retarded

[Anonymous No.6022831]

C64 for lack of any alternatives

>Spectrum

Games had interesting ideas but are too slow and janky to be enjoyable

>Amstrad

Je ne parle pas français

>Atari 8 bit

Star Raiders was cool I guess

[Anonymous No.6022854]

>>6022138
I want to see what can be done with an 8-bit computer that has 4GB of RAM.

[Anonymous No.6022858]

>>6022430
>Only problem with 64 is that it lacks 80 column mode.
That's what the 128 is for.

[Anonymous No.6022880]

>>6022831
>let

>me

>fail

>again

>mission

>accomplished

[Anonymous No.6022920]

a more obscure one

[Anonymous No.6022928]

why does the c64 have like 50 thousand fucking games for it? i don't even know which are good or not.

[Anonymous No.6022930]

>>6022920
There's nothing obscure about the CoCo.

[Anonymous No.6023002]

ITT: /v/ zoomers shitposting about something they never experienced

[Anonymous No.6023128]

>>6022928
Because it was a fucking awesome system?
If only there was some sort of system that zoomlets could use to search for information. I say this unironically because obviously the myriad of search engines we have are incapable of doing it.

>>6023002
So just like every other thread since many summers ago

[Anonymous No.6023524]

Bump

[Anonymous No.6023760]

what did the record button on the C64 cassette player actually do? did it somehow 'record' the code you wrote on the BASIC to the cassette (that would come out as that scratching sound when played back on an audio cassette player?) upon some specific command?

[Anonymous No.6023790]

>>6018501
Unironically the Commodore 64. Mainly for the Music and the Aesthetic.

That's what I had growing up. I really enjoy the Atari 8-bit computers, but nothing beats the C64.

[Anonymous No.6023846]

>>6022347
PICO 8 PICO 8 PICO 8
https://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.php

[Anonymous No.6023858]

>>6023846
Not real hardware.

[Anonymous No.6023880]

>>6023846
Not 8-bit

[Anonymous No.6023918]

>>6023760
It did exactly that, if you didn't have a floppy drive then you used tape cassette to back up your work via the record button, though you won't hear all the high-pitched tones of the data as the official C64 cassette player had an internal analogue/digital converter, if you used a generic tape player then you'd hear the analogue signal as X was being loaded etc

[Anonymous No.6024427]

>>6023760
Jesus. Please be trolling

[Anonymous No.6024568]

>>6023846
Pico 8 seems fun but it's not real hardware.

We are trying to design for a system with a processor made for basic programming but runs more modern basically a super commodore 64.

I'm only into emulation for mame

[Anonymous No.6026148]

I want to love the Spectrum, but I feel like you absolutely had to be in Britain in the 80s to enjoy it, because the games can't stand alone and need the context of that "scene".

[Anonymous No.6026203]

>>6022305
What is it with children and the word cringe these days? Its totally meaningless at this point

[Anonymous No.6027063]

>>6026203
Children post cringe and adults call them on it. It's not that had to understand. Maybe it'll make sense when you grow up.

[Anonymous No.6028368]

I posted about the upcoming commanderx16

If it doesn't have the Yamaha sound chip it probably won't do well

[Anonymous No.6028392]

>>6018501
I just bought one, what else do I need for it? Casette drive and a 154 floppy drive?

How do you load programs on a C64? I was too young for C64 in North America, I just missed out on the pre-DOS era

[Anonymous No.6028394]

>>6026203

They don't realize that because everything is luke-warm these days is because people cringe at people with a passion for anything.

Everything has been devalued and here we are.

[Anonymous No.6028397]

>>6028394

>They don't realize that * everything is luke-warm these days

Soz, typed that while gf was getting angry at a video game.

[Anonymous No.6028532]

>>6018804
Filthy Commies will never understand this

[Anonymous No.6028535]

>>6023760
If this isn't proof enough of an in/v/asion...

[Anonymous No.6028548]

>>6019706
Correct.

[Anonymous No.6028581]

>>6022854
Considering it couldn't physically address all that ram, I guess not very much.

[Anonymous No.6030146]

>>6028581
>being his retarded

[Anonymous No.6030190]

>>6018804
this

[Anonymous No.6030735]

>>6028392
If you have absolutely nothing you could try an SD2IEC or a Pi1541

[Anonymous No.6030763]

>>6018674
>reality: 40yo boomer.

If you are 40 years old, then you are gen X at best, and the boomers would be your parents.

[Anonymous No.6030803]

C64 is objectively best, but they're all garbage compared to 8-bit consoles.

[Anonymous No.6030808]

>>6030763
This boomer meme has gotten out of hand

[Anonymous No.6030815]

Got all this for $225, how'd I do?

[Anonymous No.6031002]

>>6030815
could you not find a more yellowed unit? It looks like it was stored in a toilet for the past 30 years.

[Anonymous No.6031009]

>>6031002
It's really easy to brighten yellowed plastic and I've had great success in the past

[Anonymous No.6031837]

>>6022928
>why does the c64 have like 50 thousand fucking games for it? i don't even know which are good or not.
cause it was a computer and anyone could make games for it even though 60% of its games and 90% of Euro games were complete garbage.

[Anonymous No.6031848]

>>6030803
>C64 is objectively best, but they're all garbage compared to 8-bit consoles.

Yeah I'm sure an Atari 2600 is really better than a C64.

[Anonymous No.6031871]

Did the C128 have all that much support?'

It reminds me of the Apple II GS, a system that had a lot of potential that very few developers actually tried to exploit.

[Anonymous No.6031892]

>>6031871
>Did the C128 have all that much support?

Sotware for it was nearly all applications/utilities.

[Anonymous No.6032497]

>>6031871
maybe because it was terribly overpriced...

[Anonymous No.6032541]

>>6031871
The only thing it had potential to do was be an underpowered outdated turd. And it exceeded it's potential.

[Anonymous No.6032750]

>>6018501
The C64. Venerable. It's what I had and I loved it. I am still saddened by its loss.

[Anonymous No.6032990]

>>6031871
>>6031892
The C128 was a stupid design. The backwards compatibility came from simply including the C64 chipset almost stock. They didn't improve the C64's abilities at all. The C128 side of the machine was lacking any decent graphical abilities, and even the ones it did have were implemented in a really stupid way. The end result is that it was only good for business tasks. For games you were using the same VIC-II and SID as you always had, and because of timing incompatibility you couldn't even run the CPU at the full speed, instead still in a C64 compatible mode. You could bank switch the additional RAM I suppose. Basically it was no improvement at all at the things the C64 was good at.

[Anonymous No.6033419]

>>6032990
>and because of timing incompatibility you couldn't even run the CPU at the full speed

Unless you do a l33t hax0r trick where you switch the CPU to 2Mhz during the vertical retrace.

[Anonymous No.6033432]

I like the C128 but most of its features benefit applications rather than games.

[Anonymous No.6033724]

>>6032990
>The C128 was a stupid design
>because it was designed for business tasks
>The end result is that it was only good for business tasks
>Except all those C64 games
The zoomer brain truly is proof of unintelligent design

[Anonymous No.6033923]

>>6030815
imagine wasting your NEET bucks on this yellowed pile of garbage

[Anonymous No.6033961]

>>6033923
The C64 came out of the box brown kiddo. But yeah, that shit's filthy and until recently you could have dug that out of a dumpster for free any day of the week.

[Anonymous No.6034013]

>>6033961
>kiddo
W E W L A D, i'm old enough to have bought one at sears when they were still relevant

[Anonymous No.6034020]

>>6018501
>best selling home computers of all time
By kamikaze'ing the computer industry with no survivors.

[Anonymous No.6034053]

>>6034020
reminds me of a jack tramiel anecdote, commodore was offering a $100 voucher if you traded in your old computer for a new c64, at that time you could buy a timex sinclair 1000 new in the box for $50, people were buying them en masse only to get $50 off a new c64, apparently commodore had a warehouse full of new in the box timex computers.

[Anonymous No.6034219]

>>6034053
At the time I just thought it was part of the 80s crash which unless you were a retailer it just meant every department store had a huge bin of c64 games out in front for dirt cheap but people were selling the shits still in box out of the trunks of their cars.

I think everybody but the manu made money off of them.

I just wish I kept mine. I've watched every game compilation video I can find and still haven't found the one game I loved on it. Must've been the godamn dark ages for game journalism.

[Anonymous No.6035193]

Good thing about home computers: Unlike consoles, anyone can make games for them.

Bad thing about home computers: Unlike consoles, anyone can make games for them.

[Anonymous No.6035249]

>>6018804
>and the game library is quite good as well.
Too bad it pretty much ends in 1985.

[Anonymous No.6035827]

>>6034013
Sure you are kiddo

[Anonymous No.6036271]

>>6034013
>>6033961
>>6033923
What are you people bitching about exactly? All that junk needs is a through scrubbing down with alcohol and some retrobrite.

[Anonymous No.6036273]

>>6035193
This really dependent on the home console, just look at the 2600.

[Anonymous No.6036396]

>>6036271
>What are you people bitching about exactly?
That it's in shitty condition and filthy? If that wasn't clear you should lurk moar until your English skills improve.

[Anonymous No.6036667]

>>6036396
>That it's in shitty condition and filthy?
And what part of "it's easily cleaned up" do you not seem to understand?

[Anonymous No.6036939]

>>6035827
Faggot. That's MT-32 on its side guy.

[Anonymous No.6037108]

>>6018570
Which country do you live in? If it's Asia they'll just throw away shit like that simply because they think it's "obsolete."
Of course it wouldn't be painful if someone would be able to read its manual and tinker around with the machine.
In the Philippines I have this friend who once threw away his VHS tapes because he perceives them as "useless." I never talked to him ever again.

[Anonymous No.6037109]

>>6036939
based.

[Anonymous No.6037113]

>>6018853
>and you gotta buy DOS for Dummies if you want to get started with DOS

[Anonymous No.6037115]

>>6018672
>>6019827
>I can personally sense he's just an autistic guy who browses Wikipedia a fucking lot and is very fascinated with obsolete technology as much as y'all guys are.

[Anonymous No.6037409]

>>6036939
>putting my ebay find on its side makes me old
But of course it does kiddo

[Anonymous No.6037457]

>>6018501
Necromancer.
I'd kill for a 16-bit Remake.

[Anonymous No.6037573]

>>6030815
Your goingbto need to retrobrite that c64

[Anonymous No.6037645]

>>6036667
The part where it hasn't been cleaned because it's so easy to clean? Clean it up and show us the end result with no scratches, stains, etc. Then we'll talk champ.

[Anonymous No.6037652]

>>6037645
Nice job revealing you have literally no experience with vintage hardware. Some baking soda, 90% alcohol, and retrobrite and it'll look good as new. People like you who judge shit on the spot are why perfectly good and salvageable vintage hardware is thrown in the dumpster.

[Anonymous No.6037825]

>>6037652
Nice job projecting kiddo

[Anonymous No.6037835]

>>6037825
???????????????

[Anonymous No.6038151]

>>6032541
But the GS had a lot of cards that made the system run faster, use PC programs, use SCSi and IDE hard drives, etc. If yony Apple provided more support for it and Jobs didn't sabatoge it with it's shitty clock speed.......

[Anonymous No.6038213]

>>6038151
It did. If you upgraded it instead of buying a new car it could do most as much as the competition could out of the box.

[Anonymous No.6039910]

Zoomer here. If I get a floppy disk reader, will it be able to write floppys as well? I got some c64 programs I want to write to a floppy, but I got the files on my computer. I'm thinking of just buying a floppy reader and was wondering if I'd be able to just write the programs to that floppy, and have the c64 floppy reader read them just fine.

[Anonymous No.6039952]

>>6038151
>and Jobs didn't sabatoge it with it's shitty clock speed
Did he? I can't find a good date on when IIGS development started, but it seems to be around the time he was ousted from Apple.

[Anonymous No.6040098]

>>6039910
Short answer no.
Long answer, it's entirely possible but trying to get cheap PC USB floppy controllers to write the crazy disk formats used by old computers requires specialised programs that may or may not work on modern windows let alone your chosen floppy drive.
Much easier to get a Gotek and put them on a USB stick. Doesn't have that floppy grinding charm, but you'll have more fun overall.

[Anonymous No.6040160]

>>6038213
Too bad it had a tenth of the software the Amiga and ST had.

[Anonymous No.6040179]

>>6034013
That image is extremely beautiful sir.

[Anonymous No.6040303]

>>6040098
But doesn't the C64 use weird ass ports? The situation is this, I've written some cool software that I've tested using an emulator. My friend's got a C64, and I'd like to show him what I've written on that machine when I go home for Christmas.

There's already software to write .d64 files to floppys, so that's no issue.

[Anonymous No.6040340]

>>6040303
Sorry, not a Gotek. I was thinking Amiga for some reason.
I have one of these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqmDuLxtYAk

SD2IEC

Reads D64 images off an SDcard and connects to the disk drive serial port. The only snagging issue is that it uses the tape port for power so you can't have a datasette connected simultaneously.

So long as you can create a .d64 or a .PRG you'll be able to use your code on a real machine.

[Anonymous No.6040348]

>>6040303
I should also add that it's not the software that's the problem, it's the drive controllers. Original PC floppy controllers by design can't write esoteric disk formats and USB ones aren't any better. What we used to have to do is buy specialist ones that could write anything. I looked for a drive for my PC that could write Amiga compatible ones not so long ago and I only got suggestions for long discontinued stuff or chinese models that probably don't even use the same internals.

[Anonymous No.6040535]

>>6040098
>Long answer, I don't know what I'm talking about

[Anonymous No.6040696]

>>6040179
based

[Anonymous No.6040698]

>>6018501
MSX

[Anonymous No.6040707]

>>6035249
not true, there are so many new indie titles for the atari xl/xe it's hard to keep track. most of them are from europe however so you need a PAL machine and 128k or more of ram.

[Anonymous No.6040716]

>>6040707
https://youtu.be/eqYI73h2MPI?t=36

[Anonymous No.6040720]

>>6040707
https://youtu.be/eVBenUTZDeg?t=66

[Anonymous No.6042131]

>>6040340
these things aren't very good. they're fine for single files and stuff using kernal file loading routines, but any software that needs a real disk drive for their own custom loaders will just fail because they expect real / emulated 1541 drive.

[Anonymous No.6042137]

>>6040716
> those colours
> that terrible music
this disturbs me greatly.

[Anonymous No.6042138]

>>6040720
this looks and sounds pretty good. i like it.