/CRT/ Thread - Royal Womanizer Edition

[Anonymous No.6017510]

Previous thread: >>5986805
>Try to keep things /vr/ related: Focus should be on 5th Gen (+Dreamcast) games on back. Slight off topic is fine so long as it's related to CRTs, such as later 16:9 models, HD models, etc. Systems with backwards compatibility are also safe territory, as are re-releases on newer hardware. PC CRTs are also welcome and appreciated.
>Produce OC! Bust out your camera and take photos of your CRTs displaying all sorts of games, featuring all sorts of tubes, using all sorts of signals. Getting good shots can be hard, but if you take enough, at least a few will turn out alright. Tips'n'Tricks™ coming soon™.
>Try and give as much information as possible when asking for info on a specific set, or troubleshooting an issue to expedite and help you may receive. As always, Google is your friend and we are your friends with benefits. Older archived threads aren't a bad place to look either; Seriously, there's literally 6 years of backlog at this point.
>Share appreciation for other's choice of technology and personal philosophy of gaming. Always remember to show courtesy in your discussion and moderate yourselves first.

Limited discussion of video processing and scaling devices is alright, but remember to keep the focus on CRTs and CRT accessories.

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Some anon asked what CRT pic related was before the last thread 404'd. It's a PVM 20M4U.

[Anonymous No.6017535]

1st for jvc a best

[Anonymous No.6017541]

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/ele/d/richmond-working-condition-sansui-crt/7021061026.html

the best part is, someone will pay 90 bucks for this in bc

[Anonymous No.6017542]

2nd for OLED master race.

[Anonymous No.6017768]

what tube, OP?

[Anonymous No.6017775]

>>6017768
I mentioned it at the end. PVM 20M4U.

[Anonymous No.6017786]

>>6017775
Lookin good. when you'd get it? you using it for any 480i stuff? 480i looks amazing on pvm, imo. but not really retro.

[Anonymous No.6017807]

>>6017786
Got it at least 7 or 8 years ago now. 480i can certainly be retro, I recently played Chrono Cross which uses 480i for all the menus and status screens, as well as FMVs. The character models looks great at that res and were honestly giving N64 a run for its money at that point.

Also recently finished Skies of Arcadia for the umpteenth time. One of my favorite games of all time, and the graphics hold up really well. Definitely some of my favorite 3D of its era.

[Anonymous No.6017829]

>>6017807
Had to play this game in S-video because it's one of like 5 games in the entire Dreamcast library that only outputs at 31khz in VGA/RGB mode. Almost decided to play it on my computer monitor instead, but meh, I'm lazy. S-video is pretty slick, anyway.

[Anonymous No.6017834]

>>6017829
This game was such a delight. Great sound design, too.

[Anonymous No.6017838]

>>6017834

[Anonymous No.6017839]

>>6017838
Dreamcast had great lighting effects.

[Anonymous No.6017841]

>>6017829
Is there a widescreen mode/hack for it?

[Anonymous No.6017847]

>>6017841
I've definitely seen widescreen, 1080p screenshots of the game floating around, so there would have to be. I've also seen a texture pack that replaces the on-screen 2D overlays like the compass and spirit guage and stuff with HD versions.

[Anonymous No.6017864]

>>6017847
I also use it to watch VHS tapes, which are 480i, obviously.

[Anonymous No.6017875]

>>6017864
Also found a Roku stick with analog output, made for older TVs. It's only composite video, but watching HD avi files looks pretty great, regardless. Plus it's the only Roku with a 4:3 display option.

[Anonymous No.6017931]

>>6017875
PS3>Roku

[Anonymous No.6017962]

>>6017847
sick. when I get a dreamcast, will hook that shizz up to my widescreen. though i'm sure it looks better in 4:3 since hacks usually fuck with the game visuals somehow.

[Anonymous No.6018106]

>>6017931
Probably, but I don't have the room. And my dedication to using my CRT as a streaming/multimedia device is merely out of novelty. And because it actually looks pretty good. I watch a load of VHS tapes, though, nothing better to end a night of gaming.

>>6017962
Oh, I'm not so sure about getting widescreen out of an actual Dreamcast. What's wrong with 4:3?

[Anonymous No.6018110]

Mexican sony

[Anonymous No.6018151]

>>6018110

[Anonymous No.6018227]

Been about a week and a bit with this thing, I still need to track down a remote to get into the service menu but I've chilled out re: some geometry problems it has because they don't often affect the actual game and they're easy to forget about when you're actually playing stuff. Next priority is getting something comfy to sit in and then I'm really in business

[Anonymous No.6018278]

>>6018227
love sony's custom stands
hope you don't leave your consoles on the floor

[Anonymous No.6018315]

>>6018278

thanks bro

I'm pretty glad I found one with the stand, it really feels like a proper unit without being excessively large, plus not having to worry if something is going to be able to support or get scratched by the TV

I need to get off my ass and get some windex to it and get rid of a bunch of dust inside of it from it's previous basement dwelling, the system is probably better off not circulating in what's inside there for the time being

[Anonymous No.6018373]

>>6018278
They are pretty damn nice. I've been trying to track down a stand for my FV310 for a while now and while I've seen 2 pop up they were both trashed. At this point I'd be willing to take a FV300 or FS320 with the stand and then just dump the TV in a ditch somewhere.

[Anonymous No.6019281]

So I'm trying to hook up my Genesis to my Sanyo tv, but I can't get it to work. Tried the channel inputs and I'm pretty sure I have the component cables correctly hooked up

[Anonymous No.6019292]

>>6018227
WOAH

wait one GOSH DARN second

Did YOU get BAMBOOZLED into buying THAT model of CRT Television?

What a fool you are everybody knows that THIS mode is much superior, how did you not know that? What a fool

[Anonymous No.6019334]

>>6019292
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting. Faggot.

[Anonymous No.6019457]

hehe

[Anonymous No.6019483]

>>6019334
Fuck it, watch me get banned but not the guys that go around calling people niggers and Jews. God forbid I upset the. CRT autists

[Anonymous No.6019485]

>>6019334
That said it’s a really nice setup though. I wish I had a stand for mine, it would tie things together really nicely

[Anonymous No.6019651]

>>6017775
Super mr_plopsy

[Anonymous No.6019728]

>>6019292

Huh?

I got it for free

[Anonymous No.6019751]

I am now determined to get an SED or FED display. I've proven myself able to do such impossible things before, and I'm sure there's gotta be a number of them just sitting in some warehouse somewhere. iirc cannon got really close to market of commercial monitors, and perhaps I'm mistaken but they were selling them for the broadcasting scene. Maybe the don't have them anymore, but if they did sell to pros in the states then there's gotta be a chance to get my hands on one. Cold calling is my initial attempt, but if any other anons have any ideas on how to get one I'm all ears. Cannon is the place to start I guess.

[Anonymous No.6019764]

>>6019483
Stop acting like a jew, you fucking nigger.

[Anonymous No.6019871]

>>6019751
>they were selling them for the broadcasting scene
nope, they never made it to final production at all. there's only prototypes and demo models. and of those there was probably only a couple dozen.

[Anonymous No.6019915]

>>6019871
I can't seem to find solid information on that. Are you really sure?

[Anonymous No.6019919]

>>6019915
I'm fairly certain, yes. Last year I spent a lot of time researching SED/FED development and the timeline of it. Even by the time they were demo'ing them at conventions the factory yields were still pathetic and I don't recall ever coming across anything saying that they were being sold. The closest to that was mention of prospective markets in the medical field.

[Anonymous No.6019929]

>>6019919
Goddamn it! I'm still cold calling them to see if by sheer luck they still have to demo models.

[Anonymous No.6019931]

>>6019929
Good luck, but I think you're chasing a pipe dream, anon.

[Anonymous No.6019945]

It works!

Now...about plugging in a console...I need a controller to put it to input
Universal remote? How would I know if one is compatible? Same company (RCA)?

[Anonymous No.6019948]

...Anonymous
11/18/19(Mon)19:04:08 No.6019945
It works!

Now...about plugging in a console...I need a controller to put it to input
Universal remote? How would I know if one is compatible? Same company (RCA)?

[Anonymous No.6019954]

>>6019948
yes usually remotes from the same company work on all their TVs. You can use 30 year old sony remotes on 2019 sony TVs.

[Anonymous No.6019970]

>>6019954
Word

It’s going to be a bitch getting this thing in the house, luckily I have a ramp into the house from the garage and a jawn to roll it in, and the room it’s going in is like 10 feet from the garage door. But the hard part is getting the beast on top this solid oak dresser. I’m gonna take off the bottom piece that swivels the tv to lighten/shorten the tv too.

First thing I’m playing is shin megami tensei on the snes. I bet it’s going to look a lot better than the small ass tv I have now

[Anonymous No.6019992]

>>6019970
Some of those colortraks have RGB inputs too.

[Anonymous No.6019995]

>>6019992
No, they do not. They used a scart socket for stuff but RGB was not one of them.

[Anonymous No.6020003]

>>6019995
It's not the sets with an EIA Multiport, They have 4 RCA for RGBS.

[Anonymous No.6020005]

>>6020003
I've never seen nor heard anything about this before. Got pics or a model number?
>>6020000
wonder what it was

[Anonymous No.6020007]

>>6018227
Lookin good
I spy P3F back there, I wish I had an FV310 to play P3F on

[Anonymous No.6020008]

>>6020005
Afraid not, but the sync port is not labeled sync. Someone showed my their own photos of their own set. The RCA ports are all yellow but designate RGB and use a different name for sync.

[Anonymous No.6020013]

>>6020008
Well if you can come across those pics that would be very interesting to see.

[Anonymous No.6020030]

>>6019948

Weird choice

Does it even have composite in?

[Anonymous No.6020032]

14M2U

[Anonymous No.6020064]

>>6018110
>>6018227
>>6019457
The audio has been cucked.
>>6017875
Amp but no speakers visible. Audiocucked until proven otherwise.

[Anonymous No.6020101]

>>6020064

Gay

[Anonymous No.6020131]

Do not reply to him. Pay no attention and he'll probably just get bored.

[Anonymous No.6020136]

>>6020064
Absolutely based.

[Anonymous No.6020295]

What can you guys tell me about all this?

[Anonymous No.6020307]

>>6020295
Looks like the back of a TV.

[Anonymous No.6020325]

>>6020307
It’s the back of
>>6019948
What’s the two small holes “screen” and “focus” for? And all the stuff by the plug

[Anonymous No.6020336]

>>6020325
Screen is your g2 voltage. It basically sets the lower level of the black point, but it's a bit more complicated than that. Focus is for setting the focus of the electron gun, this generally needs to be tweaked for older sets. The stuff by the plug is for adjusting the gain and bias, which is the individual levels of the guns at the black point and white point. The other two are horizontal and vertical hold, this is adjusted if your image is off center or vertically rolling. Hope that helps, someone else will chime in if I'm mistaken on any of this.

[Anonymous No.6020347]

>>6020336
Thanks man I appreciate it

[Anonymous No.6020390]

>>6020005
>>/vr/thread/6016260#p6020000

[Anonymous No.6020438]

>>6020390
what a waste lol

[Anonymous No.6020648]

>>6018227
Oof the button to pixel lag is 31ms on those Sony WEGA TVs, you can measure it yourself and check.

[Anonymous No.6020658]

>>6020648
I forgot to add, this is if run ahead is removing all frames of lag. Original hardware button to pixel lag (25ms+) is not included in the 31ms.

[Anonymous No.6020720]

>>6020648

Lol...

[Anonymous No.6020732]

>>6020648

Honestly man go ahead and try to hate on my free TV but like at least be able to identify that its not an HD set, dumbass

[Anonymous No.6020753]

>>6020007
Thx anon. Its nice. I felt like it might be the kind of game that would be good on a flat panel since its not really about fast reflexes, has lots of static dialog screens etc but when I tried it thru an OSSC I wasnt feeling it even though the interlace is less visible that way. 480p via gsm breaks the frame limiter too so thats out

I've never played a persona game before, very pleasantly surprised by how much im liking it. My idea is to play 3 and 4 over the long winter months to come

[Anonymous No.6021027]

>>6017510
Hi /CRT/ I recently found a Samsung 955DF for pretty cheap. How good of a CRT is it? Is it worth getting?

[Anonymous No.6021028]

>>6020648

[Anonymous No.6021038]

>>6018227
Replace your slim PS2 with a phat PS2

[Anonymous No.6021110]

>>6020753
>480p via gsm breaks the frame limiter too so thats out
there's a ps2rd code for the game that fixes this if you look around.

[Anonymous No.6021323]

>>6019948
This was the exact model TV my parents had from like 1991 until 2007 when we bought them a flat screen. I was visiting her a few weeks ago and she still had the receipt from Sears, where she bought it.

[Anonymous No.6021354]

>>6020648
I'm really curious why you think this?

[Anonymous No.6021392]

>>6020064
>Audiocucked until proven otherwise.
He’s posted his setup before on here and on reddit. He’s got speakers out of the frame. Stop shitting up this thread, you troll. Everybody has better audio then you anyway, you’re in no position to smack talk. Now shoo.

[Anonymous No.6021403]

>>6020658
>Original hardware button to pixel lag (25ms+) is not included in the 31ms
Why are you lying? There’s only a handful of poorly programmed games with this level of baked in lag. Sadly SMW is one of them, but it’s still way under 1f/16ms of latency.

[Anonymous No.6021442]

>>6021027
I owned the same model for a while and it's mediocre specs wise while being kind of shit tube wise. The dynaflat tubes that samsung made are some of the worst flat pc monitors you'll find. They've got a terrible lens effect towards the corners where it's extremely evident that the inside of the tube is curved. If it's cheap then I wouldn't let me scathing review discourage you, go try it out especially if you don't already have a PC monitor. Just remember that they're generally a lot better than that.

[Anonymous No.6021546]

>>6021442
Thanks it was just 2 hours away and was 50$ the other option was this thing for 25$

Although I found a Sony Trinitron PVM-1342Q 13" for 130$ is that good?

[Anonymous No.6021548]

>>6021546
Oops forgot the picture and the Sony apparently has screen wobble with VHS movies? Is that easily fixed?

[Grÿmoda No.6021569]

>>6021403
Why are you lying? One frame of lag by itself on a SNES is around 16ms and SMW has 3 or 4.

[Anonymous No.6021573]

>>6017510
Is the Sony KD32FS170 any good? Apparently I can get one for free if I can lift it up some stairs

[Anonymous No.6021673]

>>6021569
I stand corrected, SMW has two frames of baked in latency, but it sure feels very responsive, much more so then emulating it. Doesn’t change the fact you were being disingenuous with the generalization that real hardware has that much lag. Like alread said, only a handful of games have that much baked in lag. SMW was an extremely rushed game, quite possibly the shortest development time for a main Mario game at less than 12 months. And despite that fact it’s, imo, the best Mario game Nintendo ever made. 2 frames of built in latency or not.

[Anonymous No.6021694]

>>6021573
Yes, HD CRTs provide that beautiful lack of scanlines and shitty up and downscaling that brainlets like yourself enjoy.

[Anonymous No.6021707]

>>6021573
A 32FS170 would be as good as any other standard definition wega but what you have in that picture is not an FS170. It's not even an NTSC set, that's a PAL TV in the picture.
>>6021546
Screen wobble with VHS could just be an issue with the VCR, hard to say if it's an issue with the PVM itself or not without testing another source. As for that NEC, which one is it? The FE772 is a mediocre 17" and the FE992 is a mediocre 19", but I'd take either over the Samsung especially at that price.
>>6021694
The FS170 isn't HD and neither is the set in that picture. The widescreen set in that picture is probably 100hz.

[Anonymous No.6021724]

>>6021323
What do you think of it? Is it a good find?
Picture/sound ok?

[Anonymous No.6021735]

>>6021707
What do you think about this monitor? Is it worth getting?

https://www.cnet.com/products/viewsonic-g220f-crt-monitor-21/

[Anonymous No.6021752]

>>6021735
If it's in good condition then absolutely. 110khz is when monitors start getting good, you can push some nice refresh rates with that and it's a bigger monitor. I had a 21" curved viewsonic that was 110khz for a while and I really enjoyed it. Dot masks are the og look for PC games imo.

[Anonymous No.6021775]

>>6021673
>I stand corrected
Exactly, you stupid fucking brainlet.
>it sure feels very responsive, much more so then emulating it
It doesn't matter how you "feel" because with run ahead, scientific measurements prove you to be factually wrong.
>only a handful of games have that much baked in lag
Completely wrong. Name one SNES game with less than two frames of lag.

[Anonymous No.6021815]

>petty insults
Why don’t you waddle on over to the emulation general in /vg/ where you belong?

[Anonymous No.6021892]

>>6021724
Honestly can't say. I know the sound was pretty good. By the end of its life, the tube was beat, and the only other set in the house I had to compare it to was my Mitsubishi which pretty much made it look like garbage, despite being older. That RCA was in the living room though and my mom stayed home a lot, so that fucker was on like 24/7.

[Anonymous No.6021903]

>>6021892
pic related is a tiny, shitty polaroid of my old Mitsubishi. It's definitely still tucked away in my mom's attic. I should go dig it out, this fuckin' thing was GOAT. Used it from 87 to 2009 for just about everything.

[Anonymous No.6021909]

>>6021038

What for?

[Anonymous No.6021915]

>>6021903

Looks like an old pic of chris chan's room

[Anonymous No.6021928]

>>6021915
in my defense, I was literally like 9 years old at the time.

[Anonymous No.6022053]

>>6021707
it's the 17inch one brand new in the box so would that be better then the samsung?

[Anonymous No.6022108]

>>6022053
If it's brand new in box then yes, go get it. Even if it were used it would be better cause it uses an NF Diamondtron tube which is leagues better than the shitty Dynaflat tubes Samsung made.

[Anonymous No.6022113]

>>6022108
sweet thanks! I'm seeing if he can hold it until I get back home. Thank you so much man I wasn't able to afford PVMs and stuff so hopefully this works out

[Anonymous No.6022180]

>>6017510
Are Dell E771a any good for retro gaming?

[Anonymous No.6022332]

[Anonymous No.6022401]

>>6021903
>Jessie and James on top of your TV/monitor
are you me

[Anonymous No.6022425]

>>6022332
dat ass tho

[Anonymous No.6022427]

>>6020064
Yep, definitely just have an amp with no speakers connected to it.

Thanks for coming out faggot.

[Anonymous No.6022435]

>>6022427
no salt.

only titties

[Anonymous No.6022451]

>>6022425
i wouldnt hesitate to come either

[Anonymous No.6022454]

>>6022451
lol i knew that was coming

[Anonymous No.6022574]

>>6019915
Also, researched SED/FED quite heavily in the last 2 yeats. What >>6019919 says is true. Fom what I remember they weren't even able to start mass manufacturing of FEDs/SEDs. FED/SED monitors and TVs were never even sold. The few demo models there are should be nearly impossible to get.

[Anonymous No.6022580]

>>6022427
You're welcome. Still audiocucked pending approval.

[Anonymous No.6023074]

>>6017510
Are these any good for Retro gaming? How do they compare to that Samsung that guy was talking about?

[Anonymous No.6023130]

commodore 1084s

[Anonymous No.6023136]

Great little crt. Running groovymame

[Anonymous No.6023137]

>>6019970
Just set the dresser on top of the tv, it’s probably lighter.

[Anonymous No.6023336]

>>6022574
man... I just want to see one in person...

[Anonymous No.6023528]

>>6023130
Been wanting one of these to go with my 128 for a while. Is it outputting RGBI in that pic?

[Anonymous No.6023541]

>>6023528
It's clearly displaying more than 16 colors, so obviously not.

[Anonymous No.6023701]

>>6023074
It's just a bog standard CRT monitor. It's not going to be mindblowing but you can still do 240p with it with some basic config

[Anonymous No.6023721]

>>6023074
it would be pretty authentic since it's a pretty average crt by late 90s or early 2000's standards. wont have much in the way of osd controls probably but it'll look fine at the resolutions it can sync to.

[Anonymous No.6023970]

>>6023528
It's analogue rgb through a 6 pin din

[Anonymous No.6024258]

Does anyone have an idea why a monitor would start whining at certain resolutions? I had my monitor at 1600x1200 and 60hz for months with no issue. suddenly it seems to dislike it but stops whining at lower resolutions.

[Anonymous No.6024357]

ITT

[Anonymous No.6024448]

guess what monitor is

[Anonymous No.6024452]

>>6024357
That guy looks like he's having fun.

[Anonymous No.6024459]

>>6024448
LCD with scanline filter.

[Anonymous No.6024814]

>>6019751
Why would you want a fixed resolution panel?

[Anonymous No.6024824]

>>6024814
I just really want something that's better than lcd and does 1080p and up. And hdmi. Unfortunately I don't know of a flatpanel general thread. Plus I really want to know what they look like. they seem awesome.

[Anonymous No.6024853]

>>6024824
Then just get an OLED. A dead plasma competitor is not your saviour.

[Anonymous No.6025010]

>>6024824
Look for a late generation kuro from pioneer. They made 1080p models and they're the closest you'll get. much nicer motion clarity than lcd or oled.

[Anonymous No.6025123]

Is there any inherent advantage to later model flat trinitrons over something like the XBR48?

A good condition curved trinitron with component in seems based af cause you'd get the sharpness without the waviness and etc that flat tubes usually have. There's a massive 36ish XBR48 up for free in my area with a sony stand, if I didn't /just/ get a FV310 I'd be all over it. I still want it I just don't think I could deal with people's reactions to having a 2nd, even bigger and heavier autismo grandpa TV

[Anonymous No.6025195]

>>6025010
As an owner of two KRP-500s, this.

They can be found dirt cheap too and are built to last.

[Anonymous No.6025279]

>>6019751
You are absolutely off the charts with autism. Also, please fuck off as this has absolutely nothing to do with retro games. CRTs are already tangentially related at best.

[Anonymous No.6025335]

>>6025123
Dude, all of this shit is 20+ years old at this point. There is no "inherent advantage" to any CRT, other than how much or how little abuse it has seen. You have to test stuff in person. It is like the single most important rule to buying CRTs. Literally the ONE rule. Even stuff that should be better on paper might actually suck a a ball and a half because of how fucking rek't it is. Even if that XBR48 was touted as a better TV by the pope himself, it's up to YOU to go take a look at it and see if it actually is, because you don't know what kind of shit that fucker has seen. Could have been owned by a blue-haired old lady who kept it on 24/7 to keep the oppressive, deafening silence from claiming her will to live. You never know. Unless you don't actually love your current TV for some reason, I wouldn't stress over it.
>I just don't think I could deal with people's reactions to having a 2nd, even bigger and heavier autismo grandpa TV
Don't worry, son. Someday you'll grow up and stop caring what other people think.

[Anonymous No.6025763]

>>6025335

Aight thanks dawg

Lol

[Anonymous No.6025793]

noob question: can I play dreamcast on a 240p pvm via s-video? what about scart? I don't wanna burn the pvm.

[Anonymous No.6025802]

>>6025793

Yes and yes if you can get it connected that way. don't think of it as a "240p" pvm, think of it as a 15khz one, that will make your perception of monitors in general more accurate and easier to know what will display what

[Anonymous No.6026207]

>>6023130
what game is this? I recognise some of the mechs from capcom's cyberbots..

[Anonymous No.6026216]

>>6026207
Armored Warriors. You could have just googled the names at the top like I just did.

[Anonymous No.6026281]

>>6026216
well thanks anyway

[Anonymous No.6028081]

hi i am a seller on ebay of retro CRTs and i have an announcement to make, ahem

FUCK GAMERS
FUCK GAMING,,
AND FUCK YOU

[Anonymous No.6028201]

>>6017535
I just got babbys first professional monitor at an auction for stupid cheap today. I knew it was HD SDI but for $25 I couldnt go wrong. I had read about the clone RGB cards earlier in week so it seemed worth it.

Manufacture date Dec 2007. I never even knew they made these in the PS3 era.

[Anonymous No.6028204]

>>6028201
7100 hours of runtime if I am reading that right.

[Anonymous No.6028217]

>>6028201
Also ordered a cheap HDMI to SDI adapter on amazon just so I can test it.

If there are no issues I'll order the cercuit boards and parts and make the RGB card. For now it is useless as is.

[Anonymous No.6028259]

>>6028217
Lazy through-hole board looks good for the IF-C01COMG RGB card. Minimum order is 3 boards and the components are cheap, so maybe I'll make a dedicated SCART, and another RCA component card. Would be nice to have a spare in case I fuck up too.

[Anonymous No.6028271]

>>6028259
if you don't feel like making the board there's this seller who makes them. he just started selling them with custom backplates too.

[Anonymous No.6028272]

>>6028259
https://www.ebay.com/sch/linuxbot3000/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=

forgot the link lol

[Anonymous No.6028293]

Is scart, svideo etc. worth it if I’m happy with composite? My CRT won’t take anything else, sadly.

[Anonymous No.6028301]

>>6028293
I would say s-video is at least worth trying out. You can probably find a small crt with s-video relatively easily if you just look often enough.

[Anonymous No.6028312]

>>6028293
After experiencing RGB I find it hard to go back to anything else, but S-Video isn't bad as an intermediate step.

[Anonymous No.6028384]

>>6028272
Nice thank you, that looks like a huge time saver!

[Anonymous No.6028760]

>>6028293

If you're happy with it, great. However, idk where you live but it seems like in most cities it's really easy right now to find CRT's with Component for cheap to free and it's a gigantic step up from composite.

Semi related, do any anons know if those HD Memevision component cables actually deliver a better picture than something like, say... my cheapo MadCatz multi-system component cable I have from back in the day? I'm thinking no since it's already sharp af and has great colors, no noise etc that I can really see

[Anonymous No.6029182]

>>6028217
>Also ordered a cheap HDMI to SDI adapter on amazon just so I can test it.
Holy fuck, lesson learned. "Cheap HDMI adapter" arrived this morning, and it is on its way back to amazon.
>HDMI 1.3 or older

Good thing the proper RGB card is coming.

[Anonymous No.6029229]

>>6028760
The multi-system cables are absolute garbage, so there probably would be a noticeable difference on a good monitor. Maybe not on a consumer TV though. The difference would be in color accuracy/saturation and potentially some ghosting.

[Anonymous No.6029237]

>>6028760
Expensive meme video cables is an audiophile thing for the most part. We saw it back when DVD was new.
>monster brand component cables with gold plated connectors for $149 with special meme sheath
>"I can feel the warmth and crispness that you just don't get with other cables. Other plebs cant tell but I have a gift for this kind of thing"
It is a type of mental illness and companies with good marketing (monster and HD retrovision) are there to exploit it.

If you look back at the arcades in the 80s and 90s they completely outclassed anything you could get in the home. If you crack open an arcade machine you will see they use absolute vanilla wires coming off their JAMMA harness. These are your color channels, your audio, your power, everything just bound together with cable ties and it works perfectly fine. There is nothing exotic at work here.

Component is more or less in the same boat, it really hard to fuck up, even for the Chinese. Some multi-system ones do manage to fuck this up though.

Now SCART? That actually needs shielded cables or you get buzzing and interference between your audio and video, especially with a lot of white backgroudns or white text on display. Cheaper cables are fine as long as they are shielded, but the aliexpress specials are to be avoided.

tl;dr

Always avoid the most expensive and the least expensive options when buying cables for anything. The moderately priced middle of the road options will never let you down.

[Anonymous No.6029317]

>>6029237
I wouldn't really put HD Retrovision in the same category as Monster. $30 for their non-transcoding cables for PS2/Wii isn't too unreasonable for proper 75 ohm coax. That's about the same as a used OEM cable these days.

[Anonymous No.6030080]

My neighbor across the street was throwing out a 32 inch jvc d series tv and I just picked it up. Not even sure if I can use it though because it will replace my s video only Mitsubishi 24 inch and I'm not sure 32 inches will even fit on the desk I was using. Might have to rearrange the entire room or put it right on the floor and sit like a little kid

Such is the crt life guys.

Will send pics when I get the wii to stop displaying only greens and purples on it

[Anonymous No.6030181]

>>6030080
This is nice. Holy fuck was it heavy tho

[Anonymous No.6030198]

>>6030181
>>6030080
Guys what is my cheapest option for component out for various consoles? I already have s video cables for basically everything but I want to upgrade without spending too terribly much. Is it worth it to buy a shinybow rgb to component covverter and just buy rgb cables for everything?

[Anonymous No.6030262]

https://twitter.com/crt_bot

made a twitter bot, lots of images are from vr some reddit and some OC. if you want to add images DM it or if you like CRTs throw it a follow.

[Anonymous No.6030269]

>>6030198
After my Ikegami PVM shit the bed, I bought the RGB2Comp so I could use my RGB cables on my component consumer CRT. I suggest doing this. I made my own cables.

[Anonymous No.6030597]

>>6019931
Well... It's not nothing...

Gonna go out and pick up a free Electrohome Marquee 8000 (I think that was the number, not 100% sure.) At least that can run 1080p, just in a different way I suppose. Not that I'm giving up on harassing Cannon.

[Anonymous No.6030606]

>>6028081
Oh hi ye onlye shoppe

[Anonymous No.6030625]

Any recommendations for good S-Video switchers? I've picked up 2 different ones from Goodwill for cheap but neither seem to work with the S-Video cable for my SNES/N64.
For reference, I have one of those cheaper cables that also has composite.

[Anonymous No.6030626]

>>6030597
While that projector is nice I'm not sure it'll give you a nice 1080p image. It can certainly sync to it, but the tubes might not be sharp enough for it. Hopefully the tubes are in good condition, let us know how it looks when you get it. Also, check out Curt Palme's website if you haven't already, it's a treasure trove of information on CRT projectors.

[Anonymous No.6030630]

>>6030625
Forgot to mention, on one switcher, the image gets output as black and white.
On the other, I get no image at all. Leads me to believe it may be a sync issue since S-video standard is sync-on-luma and the S-video game cables that also have composite output use sync-on-composite.
Anything I should be looking for or would I have to throw a sync-stripper into my setup somewhere?

[Anonymous No.6030640]

>>6030626
I'll certainly do that. Crt projectors arent given away for free often so I thought I'd get it as my 'in' for the scene. I only know it was in the 8000 series, it may have been 8500 even. Not a 9000 unfortunately, but I doubt it would be free if it were. Supposedly the green board has an issue, wouldn't be too surprised if it's something like caps or convergence, but I'll figure it out.
Shame it aint just within that range of decent 1080p, but beggars can't be choosers you know?

[Anonymous No.6030948]

Anyone know much about these? It's for sale for $15 but theres not a model number posted with it. All I know is that it's a 27in Samsung.

My current 19in Emerson is one of those flat front "HD" CRTs and its starting to get bleed when it's on. Like, when you first turn it on, it's fine, but after about 30 minutes of play, blue blotches begin to form in the top right and bottom left of the screen. I need to replace it.

Anyway, any help is appreciated bros.

[Anonymous No.6030994]

>>6030948
Looks like a either a TXJ or TXK 2766, either way you're only getting 2 composite inputs and a coaxial RF connector.
If it's a TXJ it weighs about 78 lbs, if it's a TXK it's around 89 lbs.
If you're fine with just composite video then go for it I guess, but if I were you, getting a TV in that size category, I would try and find something with component and s-video input too, just so you have all your bases covered.

[Anonymous No.6031052]

>>6030948
>one of those flat front "HD" CRTs
I'm curious what you mean by this. They never made HDCRTs that small and I don't Emerson ever made any HDCRTs period.

[Anonymous No.6031132]

>>6031052
My bad. I just sorta half glanced at the corner of my TV and only saw the "DTV" part - I assumed it was an H because well, duh, why would you specify it was an SDTV? seemed silly to me. So that's on me.

[Anonymous No.6031135]

>>6031132
But the screen doesnt curve out, its flat and and flush.

[Anonymous No.6031238]

>>6031135
Most CRTs in the 2000's were flat. Doesn't really mean anything other than that it's flat. Don't believe the "lightguns don't work on flat crts" bs either, it's not true at all.

[Anonymous No.6031350]

>>6031238
True story. I had a Panasonic Quintrix 32" 100htz in 2000-2005 and my Dreamcast guns worked flawlessly.

[Anonymous No.6031531]

Here's a fun fact.
I was searching through some of my old stuff and found family VHS. Luckily I had bough a working VHS playter some time ago, so I tried hooking it up to a modern LCD. Now, this tapes are pretty old as you would imagine, so they're somewhat damaged by time and nature.
To my surprise the tapes where completely unwatchable on the LCD even though we heard sound. So I tried hooking it up to my CRT TV and, lo and behold, we could actually watch and navigate the tape. I found the recording of my parent's wedding and played it for them, we had a pretty good time.
I'm guessing the problem here lies with the fact the tape is somewhat damaged and the VHS played is contantly switching between no video signal and 480i, making it completely unwatchable because it can't switch fast enough or process the distortion properly, even if that sound weird.
So yeah, we had a fun family moment all thanks to CRTs. Pretty cool.
/blog

[Anonymous No.6031542]

>>6022332
I have that same CRT. The VHS player doesn't work. I might post a picture later.

[Anonymous No.6031563]

>>6030948

I wouldn't pay, unless you really want it for some reason. If you live in any kind of populated area I'm sure a Sony or something nicer will pop up, quite possibly for free, before long. Anything without at least S-Video is a waste of time imo

[Anonymous No.6031860]

>>6031350
100hz is just frame doubling so light guns will work with them, just unreliably since every second frame is slightly delayed.

[Anonymous No.6032046]

is there an upscaler like an ossc that has vga out, for when I want to use my pc crt? Is it easier to just use a hdmi to vga converter in line with the ossc?

[Anonymous No.6032051]

>>6032046
just use a tendak or hdfury, they're cheap.

[Anonymous No.6032185]

[Anonymous No.6032192]

>>6032185

[Anonymous No.6032197]

>>6032192
Woolsey was a treasure, I don't give a fuck how much the weebs hate him.

[Anonymous No.6032325]

This is the result of countless hours of autistic yolk adjustments and menu fuckery. I think this is the best I can get it. How does it look?

[Anonymous No.6032336]

>>6032325

Better than mine

[Anonymous No.6032341]

>>6032325
Fine. I've been using my CRT since I bought it in 2005 and I only noticed that it doesn't have straight lines when I played Final Fantasy 3 last year and the bar that divides the party from the rest of the playfield was wobbly.

[Anonymous No.6032359]

>>6019457
I have the same Startech capture card. Fucking thing blue screens my pc often.

[Anonymous No.6032393]

>>6031132
For a very short time there were S, E and HDTV CRTs. I have an EDTV LCD. It's basically perfect for PS2/XBOX/Wii games and nothing else

[Anonymous No.6032439]

>>6032341
Yeah. Mine isn't too bad overall, but I'm playing FFVI right now and it really forces me to notice I've got some wonky bits around the edges because of how all the gameplay has a black frame around it. It's not so bad, though, and the rest looks decent, especially when scrolling, which is what I care more about.

[Anonymous No.6032612]

>>6031132
The SDTV logo = ATSC tuner.

[Anonymous No.6032647]

Does anyone know uf this Orion C1001SLTX supports RGB through scart? (It does have a scart port but I'm not sure)

[Anonymous No.6032660]

>>6032647
check the port and see if there's a symbol with a line of three dots in a square. that should mean rgb, if it's a triangle then it's composite.

[Anonymous No.6032661]

>>6032647
oh, and another thing. It's not worth £129.99 so I hope you plan to haggle that down to like £10.

[Anonymous No.6032813]

>>6032325
It looks like your time would be better spent actually playing games and not chasing squares.

[Anonymous No.6032965]

>>6032813
It's not my fault, once my eyes spot an inconsistency they're forever glued to it and I just csnt ignore it. It's not just CRTs I have this problem with

[Anonymous No.6033081]

I've got a 14m2u that I'd like to connect to my pc specifically for watching some older shows. Already got a wii for games.

What's the best way to do this?

I've only got a single displayport that I can output from.

[Anonymous No.6033164]

>>6031531
It probably had more to do with the tracking and the VCR itself. The sync signal can fluctuate or drop out a lot, especially on old or damaged tapes and equipment. Analog displays have no trouble with this, but digital stuff will cop an attitude and drop the video signal entirely.

[Anonymous No.6033175]

>>6033081
Use a PS3 for playing videos at 480i

[Anonymous No.6033182]

>>6033175
Any suggested homebrew video players for a ps3?

I've already got webman on mine for ps1 games. A while back I tried streaming some things to my ps3 but I never found a way to change either audio or subtitle tracks.

[Anonymous No.6033186]

Has anyone tried those new RGB2COMP converters?

[Anonymous No.6033812]

Rescued this guy from the curb yesterday, did I do good?

I can’t seem to get to the video input, so I’m looking into a universal remote. Also it seems to have an auto timeout if it doesnt detect an input after a couple minutes, or it’s fucked and shuts off for no reason.

[Anonymous No.6033854]

>>6018110
I have a very similar looking Sony CRT

[Anonymous No.6033860]

>>6033812
damn dude, that's my childhood bedroom tv. I distinctly remember those buttons and the emerson logo. Thanks for bringing my memory back to that shitfest of a period...

[Anonymous No.6033982]

>>6033186

[Anonymous No.6033990]

Hi guys. I was wondering if you could help with an issue I have with my CRT TV, in case you happen to have heard of this or seen it before.

It is a TV/VCR combo by LXI. I got it from a friend who took good care of it and it worked perfectly and even played VHS tapes just fine until...I put in this one vhs tape, a brand new retail one, and now it turns off a few seconds after I turn it on without fail, as shown in the webm clip.

I don't do this in the clip, but of course I tried to press eject before and during the few seconds it's on and the eject button does not register. The eject button works fine because I was able to eject tapes before this one, but essentially it doesn't have a chance to register the function before it turns off, or the limbo state the tape has given the TV doesn't allow the function to work otherwise.

I looked up the issue a lot, and basically because the parts for the TV and the VCR use the same power source, the VCR gets overwhelmed from the VHS tape for whatever reason, either because it's stuck or because it's at the end, and so it shuts off instantly, preventing me from even just using it as a TV (which is all I really want it for anyway) and just as importantly I of course do not have a chance to eject the tape to solve the issue. A subtle issue because technically the TV itself works fine, but there may not be a work around without opening the thing up which takes serious knowledge and safety protocol.

One poster said to leave it unplugged for a week so the fuse could recharge, which I tried and it may have kept it going for a bit more than 6 seconds, but still it shuts off and I can't eject the tape.

I thought to pry the tape out of course, but according to one forum post I read the TV would still be in its confused mode, so really the only way would be to properly eject the tape which of course I can't do.

PS: The tape is Nosferatu, the silent German Dracula horror film from 1922. Based cursed VHS tape ruining my CRT TV.

[Anonymous No.6034006]

>>6033812
That one sucks

[Anonymous No.6034129]

>>6032660
>>6032661
Ok. Was looking for a 10 inch -or under tv with scart. But locally I almost always find 14 or higher

[Anonymous No.6034132]

>>6034129
See if you can find a PVM-8044 or 8045 for a decent price. You'll need a scart to bnc breakout cable but it's a good option for a small rgb display. Assuming you can find one for a good price.

[Anonymous No.6034176]

>>6034132
Im not going to take some overpriced meme monitor. Besides I asked for scart. Not BNC

[Anonymous No.6034191]

>>6034176
Well you were looking at a tiny TV that was selling for over a hundred pounds, you could find an 8" PVM for less than that. Scart and BNC are electrically the same signal anyways.

[Anonymous No.6034424]

Does anyone have any broksonic crts? Are they garbage?

[Anonymous No.6035525]

>>6017510
Max comfy

[Anonymous No.6035783]

I want to get my PVM-20M4U (about 20 inches deep) off my desk and onto a low height a tv cabinet so I can lie on the floor and play. Any good suggestions for furniture? searching for new tv stands thick enough is a pain and craigslist has surprisingly been no help on the used/free department

[Anonymous No.6035790]

>>6035783
get a solid wood end table, they're tanks and they're short

[Anonymous No.6035795]

>>6035790
thanks bro, god fucking dammit tho I have to sift through all the antiques

[Anonymous No.6035819]

>>6035783
Here's my setup and it works great

[Anonymous No.6035829]

>>6035819
hmm, the space I want to put it in is about 43 inches wide so I think an end table would work better. looks neat though

[Anonymous No.6035865]

https://youtu.be/bhhH_0NUeLM

/vr/, especially /crt/ being called out by Nick Mullen

[Anonymous No.6035935]

>>6035790
bit of vertical bowing on the left side there, does that end table have a service menu? might be able to fix it if it does.

[Anonymous No.6035974]

>>6035865

As a cum town listener who owns a CRT, I honestly think its hilarious and true re: pvmemers and collectards

But I did get triggered by his authoritative stating that theres "no chance" stuff looks better via rgb lol

[Anonymous No.6035990]

>>6035865
>throw away "outdated technology"
>can never play hotd2 properly ever again
there also is still no good solution for playing interlaced content or 5th gen games that switch resolution mid-game on digital displays, though I hear that Ultra HDMI N64 mod fixes that problem for the N64 at least.

[Anonymous No.6036000]

>>6035974
just recently got into Cum Town and just got to this episode and had to post it.

FYI, High Society Radio is much more /vr/ friendly. Chris Stanley has a Dreamcast, and Chris Faga keeps a crt specifically to play House Of The Dead. they also had planned to do a Marvel Vs Capcom tournament in the studio

[Anonymous No.6036003]

>>6035990

OSSC. Like, not even trying to shill, I was just honestly surprised how similar it is for 480i when I recently got a CRT. I switched to the CRT because it still wipes the floor with my LCD for motion, blacks, colors, has good speakers in it, etc.

Resolution switching not being smooth is a meme and totally dependent on your set. A TCL 4 series will even do it instantly

[Anonymous No.6036007]

>>6035865
As someone who's listened to way too fucking much of that podcast, Nick has gone on record that he's an emulatorfag who did nothing but play SNES games on his laptop while working at a call center.
>>6035974
>But I did get triggered by his authoritative stating that theres "no chance" stuff looks better via rgb lol
99% of everyone in the US who's played /vr/ stuff probably doesn't know what that is. I'd even go as far as to say that a similar statistic could applied to S-Video as well.

[Anonymous No.6036015]

>>6035974
>>6036000
>>6036007
>listening to podcasts
I know this isn't /v/ but if it was I'd post everybody's favorite wojak edit

>>6036003
>I switched to the CRT because it still wipes the floor with my LCD for motion, blacks, colors
This is another thing, not even plasma TVs ever got as good blacks. OLED is pretty close though from what little I've seen on my dad's TV.
>Resolution switching not being smooth is a meme and totally dependent on your set. A TCL 4 series will even do it instantly
I know its an edge case, but Killer Instinct and RE2 on N64 switch resolution midgame. Wouldn't any TV still black out for a bit, even if it's instantly? I hear that the OSSC still takes about 1 second to resync, but I hear the Retrotink2x does it in less than 1 second. Been thinking of getting one of those just as a backup if my PVM dies and they get too expensive to replace.

[Anonymous No.6036019]

>>6036015

I haven't tried it with anything like that, just the usual PSX stuff that has 480i start screens and menus, so it's not an issue there, but my TV has never flashed a "no signal" screen at me and it's not at all high end

[Anonymous No.6036023]

>>6036003
This. Anyone who complains about the OSSC's bob deinterlacing has clearly never actually used a CRT, because it looks fucking identical, especially with alternating scanlines. I use mine with a CRT PC monitor and it's great.

>>6036015
The OSSC resyncs instantaneously. Any delay you experience is purely due to your display being slow.

[Anonymous No.6036024]

>>6036019
and you're using a TCL series 4? if so, does that TV handle 960p well too?

[Anonymous No.6036025]

>>6036023
wow, could have sworn it took about a second to resync. definitely kind of want to get one now.

[Anonymous No.6036031]

I'm looking for some Christmas games that aren't excessive like Frosty the Snowman, or The Grinch Stole Christmas.

Last year on the December 24, 2018 I randomly decided to play Blue Stinger. A game I had when I was a child but never really got far in. The game takes place on Christmas Eve 2018. It was incredible. I didn't beat it until the next day, but the story also rolled over into Christmas day.

I'd like to find some more games that are Christmasy, but not Christmas. The Die Hard or Gremlins of videogames.

[Anonymous No.6036083]

Hmmmst
Thinking about my options here. I'm this anon
>>6030181
I'm just considering whether it is better for me to stick to my wii component emulation setup, or play with original hardware. The difference is that all my consoles are set with s video except for the nes so I'd have to spend a bunch on either an rgb converter and scart cables, or HD retrovision cables. I could spend no money and keep emulating but I have no good ps1 option for component there, and it isn't the same when I've spent money on everdrives and ways to play on original hardware for the snes, genesis, etc. Anybody else primarily emulate on wii through component?

[Anonymous No.6036109]

>>6036083

Get a PS2 and just play PS1 games via component with that

[Anonymous No.6036121]

>>6036024

the 4 series is probably the default entry level OSSC set because I don't think anything has tested incompatible with it, like, console/mode wise, 16ms input delay, cheap as hell etc. Vid related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWqtc5kR854

[Anonymous No.6036125]

>>6035819
Yeah we made one of those motherfuckers sag with a widescreen Panasonic Tau. They really weren't meant to handle that much weight

[Anonymous No.6036132]

>>6036109
I do have that, but I have my ps1 modchipped and don't own any games for it. A ps2 hard mod is more difficult so I'm not going to attempt that. I have no good solution for the saturn either desu, for those I'm probably going to stick to s video

[Anonymous No.6036139]

>>6036132

Free McBoot is easy, I realize it only provides pretty hacky ways of running PSX stuff but depending on what you want to play, basically like.. Anything that POPStarter will just play, no issues, use that as your first option, particularly if it's a redbook audio title. If POPStarter won't run it and it's a data-only game, just get a copy of THPS2 or Vagrant Story (biggest file size) etc and use PSXLauncher. There's a pretty small list of games that won't be viable with either of those two methods, i've had a lot of success thus far this way.

[Anonymous No.6036140]

>>6036125
>They really weren't meant to handle that much weight
you sure about that?

[Anonymous No.6036605]

>>6036140
Yes, look at your fucking sag in the middle

[Anonymous No.6036621]

>>6036140
Jelly of that multiformat bvm. I should honestly downsize from my giant floor standing passive speakers, switch to full active, wallmount my OLED and put my CRTs on a low table exactly like that. Currently I’ve my two systems completely separate...

[Anonymous No.6036664]

>>6036140
dis nigga poor as shit

[Anonymous No.6036785]

For 3+ TV's, do you like separate setups or all in a row?

[Anonymous No.6036817]

>>6036140
Where can I get that table?

[Anonymous No.6036921]

>>6036817
Ikea

[Anonymous No.6036927]

>>6036817
It's the Ikea lack tv stand. Lack cause like most Ikea stuff it's lacking in quality.

[Anonymous No.6036932]

>>6036921
I’m pretty sure I found the exact model bit it says a maximum load of 30kg... I am considering it because me and you have almost the exactly the same monitors and that table will fit my closet nicely. Bowing aside, is it gonna break? Here is the table I saw on ikea: https://www.ikea.com/ca/en/p/lack-tv-bench-black-brown-20105341/

[Anonymous No.6036992]

>>6036140
I can literally see it bowing, despite your shitty attempt at bracing it. Fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.6037059]

>>6036992
It’s what comes with the stand from ikea

[Anonymous No.6037179]

>>6036932
I'm not the two monitor anon. I'm the single Tau anon. It won't fully give with the braces under it, or at least ours didn't, but it will sure as hell bow more over time. They're just cheap coffee tables. https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/besta-tv-unit-black-brown-70294508/ This would much better handle the weight

[Anonymous No.6037586]

>>6017510
So is this legitimate, or bunk?
https://www.resetera.com/threads/crts-have-8-3ms-of-input-lag-addressing-a-common-misconception-about-display-latency.40628/
I know, I know.
>resetera
But bear with me and give the OP a read. I'm honestly buzzed right now and can't read through the whole thing, but I'm curious about it's legitimacy.

[Anonymous No.6037609]

>>6037586
>So is this legitimate, or bunk?
It's legitimate, but downplays the latency advantages CRTs have over other display technologies.

[Anonymous No.6037630]

>buy a CRT
>works fine for about 6 months
>try to turn it on one day
>screen and audio aren't working at all
>only sign of life is the tick from the power button
Let me guess. It's something stupid I'll have to replace that will cost as much as the TV itself. Fuck this shit.

[Anonymous No.6037637]

>>6037609
>but downplays the latency advantages CRTs have over other display technologies.
You mean semantically, or is there another factor I'm not aware of?
Doesn't this mean having a TV with a very good game mode, or a gaming monitor with less than 10ms of input lag, will get the job done as well as CRTs for games requiring high precision?
I'm simply asking because I want to find something as close to a CRT as I can for my modern consoles with only HDMI output.

[Anonymous No.6037642]

>>6037637
Don't worry about it, any moderately high-end monitor will have literally unnoticeable differences in lag to you. Televisions are different, be careful buying modern televisions, but even then it's mostly disabling video processing shit (enabling 'game mode')

To your question, in such a context, crts and LCDs are very different display technologies and comparing them with one narrow metric is apples and oranges

[Anonymous No.6037643]

>>6037637
>modern consoles
wtf are you doing here

[Anonymous No.6037649]

>>6037586
This doesn't take into account scalers for SD consoles so it's completely fucking pointless for most people to consider. An LCD TV is absolutely going to be laggier than a CRT TV because it has to deinterlace and scale the signal before being displayed. You could use an external scaler like an OSSC which works well but there's other reasons to use a CRT aside from input lag.

[Anonymous No.6037671]

>>6037637
Yes within 2ms of difference not even long time CRT owners can notice a difference. Keep in mind original consoles which you are likely to be using with a CRT have at least 2 frames of lag (more than 25ms) but with emulating you can get lag to be as low as one frame. Kind of cool how this is all still brand new technology getting better every month. The magic of CRTs is being destroyed by the progress of technology right in front of our eyes.

[Anonymous No.6037676]

>>6037642
>crts and LCDs are very different display technologies
No shit, but I'm strictly talking about input lag and nothing else. That's not apples to oranges.

>>6037643
People can play both old and new consoles.

>>6037649
Now this is the actual information I'm wanting to hear more about.

[Anonymous No.6037691]

>>6037179
>https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/besta-tv-unit-black-brown-70294508
too wide. its gotta fit in my closet which can only fit a 58 inch wide table.

[Anonymous No.6037745]

>>6037676
>No shit, but I'm strictly talking about input lag and nothing else. That's not apples to oranges
Retard, the underlying there of your reshitera post of that 'input lag' is ill-defined, and input lag means different things between a scanning electron gun vs a dot matrix, sample and hold display. To compare them directly you have to be way more fucking specific than 'input lag' and I'm not going to spoon-feed you because it's complicated

[Anonymous No.6037767]

>>6037671
>Kind of cool how this is all still brand new technology getting better every month. The magic of CRTs is being destroyed by the progress of technology right in front of our eyes.
The magic of CRTs isn't being destroyed. The advantages of original hardware is. You can emulate on CRTs.

[Anonymous No.6037778]

>>6037671
>Kind of cool how this is all still brand new technology getting better every month. The magic of CRTs is being destroyed by the progress of technology right in front of our eyes.
The magic of CRTs isn't being destroyed. The advantages of original hardware is. You can emulate on CRTs. Also, check these 7s.

[Anonymous No.6037895]

>>6037671
I can always notice the shitty motion smearing on an LCD. That's not going to change until we get a nicer panel technology. Something which doesn't kill itself like OLED.

[Anonymous No.6037904]

>>6037778
>Also, check these 7s.
Cringe and bluepilled.

[Anonymous No.6037913]

>>6037778
You can also emulate CRTs on LCDs.
>>6037745
Hey stupid, he's obviously talking about lag between input and what appears on screen. Using your own autistic definition doesn't lessen the lag CRTs have between receiving input and displaying it.

[Anonymous No.6037994]

>>6035974

Why are are like half of my posts deleted? I mean, shitposts I can understand but this is a rare thread I actually try to be on topic and pleasant in

[Anonymous No.6038575]

So I recently acquired a Sony Wega KV-30HS420. I'm well aware these are absolute trash garbage for retro gaming but what about for modern games like a Stylish Action, SoulsBorne or HD Res fighting games?

[Anonymous No.6038581]

>>6037895
Keep in mind that a lot of low IQ types, who don't have brains that work fast enough to even follow the action on screen, don't understand that people like CRTs because of the inherent qualities of the display, which includes perfect motion. LCDs are pretty awful for gaming and this is inherent in the technology. They are good at putting an enormous image that doesn't move much up on a wall.

[Anonymous No.6038609]

>>6033182
Just use Plex

[Anonymous No.6038918]

>>6038575
They're good for that stuff but still limited in resolution to 1080i or 720p. Some modern consoles don't output interlaced at all so you're stuck with 720p. I think the PS4 does do interlacing still though. But you'd be better off looking for a super fine pitch model, those are much sharper and nicer.
>>6038609
Plex doesn't support 480i on the PS3. UMS is the best option in this case.

[Anonymous No.6038929]

>>6038581
Try out 120hz before you talk about perfect motion.

[Anonymous No.6038932]

>>6038929
Try out a 1:1 crt vs lcd test with the same refresh rates, then tell me which is better in motion clarity. Even at 120hz you wont be able to perfectly read passing signs in a racing game on an lcd.

[Anonymous No.6038939]

>>6038929
I have a 144hz, dude. If I scroll my browser right now, the text blurs out, as it will on every LCD ever. Likewise for gaming.

[Anonymous No.6038951]

>>6038939
>>6038932
If what you're saying was true it would have been demonstrated using high speed cameras by multiple people over time. Nice try hoardfags.

[Anonymous No.6038987]

>>6038918
>plex doesn't support 480i on ps3
There's a model of Roku called "express" or some shit. It's Walmart exclusive and is specifically designed for old CRTs and has composite output and supports 4:3, 480i. Costs under 40 bucks. Easy as pie and looks pretty good too. Sorry for the sideways pic, I'm mobile and can't be arsed to sort it out.

[Anonymous No.6038990]

>>6038951
Do you own a high refresh rate lcd? If so then copy some text into notepad and move the window across the screen and tell me how readable it is. Even at 60hz you'll lose the ability to track it with your eyes before it becomes unreadable due to the display.

[Anonymous No.6038992]

>>6038987
Okay, there's also the PS3 which the other anon has, which works fine with UMS, and outputs component. Roku's are a waste of money if you already have a PS3.

[Anonymous No.6038997]

>>6038990
Of course he doesn't. You think someone who can't afford a CRT can afford a 120+hz lcd?

[Anonymous No.6039012]

>>6038987
>cant rotate his phone like a civilized human
hmm

[Anonymous No.6039015]

>>6038992
Okay.

[Anonymous No.6039019]

>>6038997
>>6038990
Sorry kiddos I have one of the nicest OLEDs money can buy. Text in motion is very readable.

[Anonymous No.6039095]

microled > crt

[Anonymous No.6039256]

>>6039095
>microled

oy vey, only $250,000 shekels for the cheapest model!

[Anonymous No.6039565]

so apparently newer tvs with component can still run composite properly even if the color coding doesn't immediately reflect that.

in related news, I'm retarded.

[Anonymous No.6039681]

what's the point of s-video cables coming with yellow composite?

[Anonymous No.6039731]

>>6035819
Nice, very clean. Any issues accessing the disc drive on the Saturn?

[Anonymous No.6039738]

>>6039681
Light gun games

[Anonymous No.6039824]

>>6039565
If they're nice they might give you a half yellow half green jack. But having analogue at all is disappearing now.

[Anonymous No.6039865]

>>6039019
OLED is overrated, just get a late model Plasma like a Kuro 500m and enjoy all the benefits for like $200. My friend got a C8 last year and I was unimpressed.

[Anonymous No.6039913]

>>6031542
Ha, neither does mine work, stopped working like 10 years ago

>>6019948
Can’t wait to set the big guy up in my room, the spare AC power cord and the universal remote just came in the mail from the amazon plantation, lugging this beast into the room and setting it atop my dresser is going to be an interesting ordeal. I think I’m going to just have my snes plugged in it and have everything else still go into the smaller more modern tv.

[Anonymous No.6040768]

Just got a PCE lads what am I im for?

[Anonymous No.6040906]

>>6040768
some obscure japanese video games.

[Anonymous No.6041375]

Which HD CRTs are worth checking out? some of the 1080i sets I've seen look amazing. I know they aren't recommended for 240p but I still want one of these babies.

[Anonymous No.6041492]

>>6041375
Since they’ll all be shit, just pick whatever one you want.

[Anonymous No.6041495]

>>6041492
regardless of the overall trend, some brands and specific models must be better than others.

[Anonymous No.6041497]

>>6041495
best ones are the sony models featuring the Super Fine Pitch display

[Anonymous No.6041498]

>>6041495
For the purposes of retro games, they’ll be shit. You won’t be able to discern a difference, just pick any.

[Anonymous No.6041704]

>>6041498
some of us aren't nostalgia ridden autists and we do play modern games

[Anonymous No.6042772]

what's the best crt to watch rwby on

[Anonymous No.6043532]

>>6042772
XBR960

[Anonymous No.6043625]

>>6039012
Not him but my phone's rotate function is completely fucked

[Anonymous No.6043835]

green or da red monochrome for super game boy today

[Anonymous No.6044014]

>>6043835
Default (green)

[Anonymous No.6044224]

What does the indicator/logo of RGB on a tv look like?

[Anonymous No.6044303]

>>6044224
>indicator
Well if it’s got bnc inputs its probably for rgb. In which case you have yourself a pro or presentation monitor

[Anonymous No.6044316]

>>6044303
For scart

[Anonymous No.6044432]

>>6044316
It's a square with 3 horizontal dots iirc

[Anonymous No.6044647]

Does switching to a RGB av modus on a tv make much of a difference when you have the blanking switch turned to RGB on the scart cable?

[Anonymous No.6044931]

>>6044647
some tv have a compensation for RGB right shift in RGB mode.

[Anonymous No.6044932]

>>6017535
I kinda want one, I like their case designs.

[Anonymous No.6045225]

[Anonymous No.6045860]

forget gaming, is there anything more comfortable than watching 90s anime on a CRT television?

[Anonymous No.6046365]

>>6045860
>is there anything more comfortable than watching 90s anime on a CRT television?
Yes: Watching 80's anime on a CRT television.

[Anonymous No.6046950]

>>6045860

[Anonymous No.6047028]

Crts are groovy you dig

[Anonymous No.6047050]

>>6045860
>>6046365
Watching a 60s anime on a toob tv