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6005218 No.6005218 [Reply] [Original]

Just ordered one of these bad bois for some retro gaymen. They’re much faster than a raspi, cheaper and have far more apps available. They also play android games ofc and have Plex/Netflix/Hulu/Disney. The one pictured here plays up to Dreamcast/Saturn fine. It’s not far from a Shield performance wise. And they’re $32 on AliExpress right now. Just thought I’d say something before someone wastes money on a Pi when devices like this or a used PC are cheaply and readily available that are built for this purpose. Oh yeah, it has 240p output that isn’t noisy as fuck too.

>> No.6005242

Sounds like you're trying to convince yourself that you didn't burn money away like a good goy.

>> No.6005247

>>6005242
This is my second one of these boxes. Last time I posted something about it it seemed like most people didn’t even know this was an option. It’s a lot better for playing games. Something the raspi just isn’t really well suited for

>> No.6005341
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6005341

>240p output
>hdmi output only
So what, I gotta buy a converter? What about controllers?
Why the hell would I do this when moddable wiis exist?

>> No.6005559

>>6005341
It’s like you didn’t even read the post or actually lookup the product, Wii can’t play N64 and up. Android boxes can. It outputs composite or component in addition to HDMI. All of these boxes do

>> No.6005575

>>6005341

Where does the controller go?

>> No.6005595

>>6005218
k

>> No.6005638

>>6005341
Just use any usb controller you seething fucking tard

>> No.6005683

>>6005218
>They’re much faster than a raspi
How many emulators have been optimized for the Vontar Android 9.0 Global version's hardware? None? You mean when you run real benchmarks in side emulators it's going to have worse performance even though it technically has faster hardware and you just cucked yourself? Oof.

>> No.6005690

That's fucking cheap. Is it stable enough for longer emulation sessions, and is it powerful enough for CRT filters?
Post an update when you've tested it, please.

>> No.6005694

>>6005341
>when moddable wiis exist?
He doesn't know. Wii output is bugged and slightly stretched.

>> No.6005712

>>6005690
I have one already, I’ve never turned it off. It just stays on plugged in downstairs and is usually used for Plex. But it works fine for however long you want to play it for. I ordered another one to put in another bedroom for netflix and stuff. I prefer it to a Roku and when my son and his friends all want to play Minecraft we have a ton of devices that are up for that.

>>6005683
It runs the emulators far better and is technically much faster with a similar power consumption. The raspberry pi is not designed for gaming and it’s stupid people buy it as an emulation device. It’s poorly suited to the task. Look up any AMLogic s905x2 videos and you can easily verify it’s performance. The same board with different memory configurations is used in many devices. This thing is not a unique device by any means, just a generic android box for gaming and as a media device.

>> No.6005715

>>6005690
And filters work fine on it. Don’t buy the very cheapest one though! Make sure you buy one with DDR3 memory or better. Poor memory speed can really cripple these devices. The T95Q is inexpensive, has solid heat spreaders applied and quality memory. So it’s a good all around package

>> No.6005726

>>6005712
Lol it looks like it doesn't even have bluetooth...
How are you going to use bluetooth controllers?

>> No.6005761

>>6005726
I won’t? If you want Bluetooth I guess you could plugin a Bluetooth adapter. Android has pretty solid driver support for generic BT adapters. I just use these RF wireless afterglow PS3 controllers I have though. Wired PS2 controllers work fine too.

>> No.6005772

>>6005761
Damn, that sucks.

>> No.6005806

>>6005772
I don’t really know why you’d want to use Bluetooth controllers anon. If you’re that hard up for Bluetooth controllers you can just buy the version with Bluetooth or buy a $1 adapter and plug it in.

>> No.6005825

>>6005806
How about Composite output? Can I use that box with a CRT or do I need an adapter for that too? Or are you an underage LCD user?

>> No.6006083

>>6005825
Did you not read the OP? It supports component and composite out at 240p.

>> No.6006095

Enjoy your 1000 ms + of input lag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qIj_Ooq85Q

>> No.6006123

Will this play my H.265 videos from my usb?

>> No.6006126

>>6006095
If that’s what you think anon. I’m neither using a shitty controller or Bluetooth however and my latency is very good as a result.
>>6006123
Yes, it decodes 4K fullspeed which is really nice for such an inexpensive device. My Roku ultra has trouble keeping up with a lot of 4K rips so I bought this to try it out and it works fantastic. Hence why I’m buying a second one. The UI also controls well with a direct input game pad.

>> No.6006129

>>6005218
>They’re much faster than a raspi,
Not for emulation. They may be good devices for playing video but they're suicide for emulation and you are rightly getting crucified.

I have a question - do they have hardware-dedicated video-decoding? If not they're pieces of shit that will slowdown and have massive problems with multiple recordings in HD or picture in picture.

>> No.6006131

>>6006129
Yes they do. And I can’t play Dreamcast on my raspi. But it runs fine on this so I don’t know where you get that from. Raspberry Pis are not made for emulation or even gaming. What’s happening is people are commenting that haven’t even used these types of devices and being idiots

>> No.6006142

>>6006123
It plays rainbows can't you see

>> No.6006143

>>6005218
I found a similar box that runs an allwinner cpu and a mali t720 gpu. Wouldn't that be a better buy?

>> No.6006154

>>6006143
The Allwinner H6 has worse performance but as long as the ram is DDR3 or better it should be good. Just don’t get an RK3319 box. The AMLogic S905x2/x3 is the best performing android CPU in a device under $100. Which is what this has. This also has a Mali T720. Like with anything else read what youre getting and pay attention to specs, ram speed can be really crippling in these devices. For example my DDR2 RK3288 box while older still outperforms the newer RK3399 and 3319 boxes because of ram speed alone. It just only outputs 720p and has 2.4ghz WiFi because it’s kind of old.

>> No.6006314

>>6005712
Is it a noisy chink piece of shit or is it completely silent?

>> No.6007834

>>6005218
Why would you want something with a big light-up faggy rainbow? Also the quality of these devices is probably really bad.

>> No.6007878

>>6005683
anyone who actually cares about optimization wouldn't be fretting an android device being inferior to a pi. android emulators are much more optimized. mupen64plus fz runs just fine on the same hardware that would chug running an n64 emulator on a pi
>>6006314
most of them don't even have fans so the latter

>> No.6007963

>>6007878
>anyone who actually cares about optimization wouldn't be fretting an android device being inferior to a pi. android emulators are much more optimized. mupen64plus fz runs just fine on the same hardware that would chug running an n64 emulator on a pi
Now I'm starting to think you're an 11 year old fuckwit whose welfare mom got him one of these devices.

"android emulators are much more optimized"

On what fucking planet are you on that you decided to come out with that? Go back to your Logan Paul videos and piss off.

>> No.6008041

>>6007963
i looked at the quantitative evidence comparing n64 emulation between platforms on equivalent hardware. can you read? are you maybe just upset about the possibility that your pi was a poor investment?

>> No.6008051

>>6008041
ok shithead, you made me look. You made me look up to check if you had said anything like that and turns out you did not.

I was kinda interested at first. But this thread is gives confirmation that only a clueless fool would buy one of these devices.

>> No.6008053

>>6008051
(continue)
for emulation*. I'm sure they perform well at what they were designed for, playing video.

>> No.6008060

>>6008053
I’m not the guy you were replying to or even the Op but you can literally lookup videos of the chipset running Dreamcast and Saturn man. The Pi can’t do that

>> No.6008070

>>6007834
It doesn’t light up, that’s just kind of how Chinese advertising is man. They lie about weird things.

>> No.6008091

>>6005218
Does it keep your carpet clean?

>> No.6008186

>>6008051
i didn't even have to look anything up. i have one of these with weaker hardware and i can run infamously hard-to-run games like paper mario on it just fine. afaik that isn't possible on a pi. as well as what that other anon said about saturn/dreamcast emulation.

>> No.6008207

>>6008186
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdPzE2wDiio&feature=emb_title
I challenge you to show the performance of Dreamcast on that Chinese Andriod piece of shit. But you won't. You're scared of the truth.

>> No.6008241

>>6008207
did you watch the video? both look pretty choppy. and am i scared? you're the one frothing at the mouth over the possibility of someone not using a pi to emulate.

>> No.6008263

>>6008241
Show the performance or you just got BTFO buddy.

>> No.6008345

>>6008263
You have problems dude, I don’t understand why you’re so angry at people not using a Pi to emulate. Even the Pi foundation says it wasn’t designed for gaming and emulation.

>> No.6008364

>>6008263
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6E-CVAdXR0 took me two seconds on google

>> No.6008569

>>6008364
No anon you don’t understand, you were BTFO by the raspi anon. You have to go commit sudoku now

>> No.6008575

>>6008207
At $80 for just the board it’s pretty fucking steep anon. A solid power supply for it is around $15 to $20 and at that price you’re in used desktop territory and more than triple the cost of this. And on top of that it’s still fucking laggy in the video. Did you even watch it? The android fork of libretro is far better developed and has more cores.

>> No.6008580

>>6008364
that's a different and $125 device of course its better you idiot get a real pc for that price you bottom feeding aliexpress scum

>> No.6008590

ITT OP is Hoodwinked into buying a rasbpi even though he hates rasbpi KEKW

>> No.6009137

>>6008580
It’s the same board. All of these devices use the same basic board with varying amounts of ram and storage. That’s the point of these things

>> No.6009418

it's the chinese that make these shill threads right? I mean why else would anyone bother putting this much time and effort into selling this literal garbage.

>> No.6009420

>>6009418
also, I fail to see how a bootleg chinese media player is retro gaming. not a single post here mentions emulator performance, controllers, etc. in summary, op is a fag.

>> No.6009435

>>6009418
He could also be a seller or a useful idiot manipulated by chinks/sellers on another website. There is something about how incoherent and lazy his posts are that makes me think it could be a child or esl.

>> No.6009451

>>6005559
>Wii can’t play N64 and up.
The Wii literally has official N64 emulation in the form of the Virtual Console. How can you say it can't play N64?

>> No.6009459

Social Credit points are a hellova drug.

>> No.6009959

>>6009451
Not him but the VC emulation is bad. And Wii can't even play MAME or PS1 or Saturn or Dreamcast. Wii is useless as a retro gaming machine.

>> No.6011165

>>6009420
You can use any controller. There’s been multiple posts that discuss the performance of this hardware. Can you not look up the Redream compatibility list or something? It doesn’t have issues running things at fullspeed so there’s no need to discuss individual game performance. Just see what games work with your desired emulator.