Bullshit in games

[Anonymous No.5994695]

This is fucking bullshit, as if you were supposed to know to do this despite never picking up ice ever before

[Anonymous No.5994713]

Forgot which Zelda game it was but I was stuck like an idiot for a good while because between all of the Zelda games it was the only one where you didn't need a bracelet or such to pick up rocks, it was just a default ability. Zelda is so lazy with it "puzzles" that it conditioned me to wait until I get the exact item to solve the "puzzle" that was built around it.

[Anonymous No.5994729]

>>5994695
I figured it out just fine when I was 9, so I don't get your issue.

[Anonymous No.5994757]

>>5994729
Not everyone has autism anon

[Anonymous No.5994761]

>>5994695

[Anonymous No.5994767]

>>5994695

Link just needed to eat that croissant first to give him the strength.

[Anonymous No.5994793]

I can't get into the first dungeon in Minish Cap.
There's a puddle.
Help.

[Anonymous No.5994806]

[Anonymous No.5994824]

>>5994695
>how the fuck was i supposed to know
>eternal summer 2019 edition

[Anonymous No.5994825]

>>5994806

[Anonymous No.5994828]

>>5994695

Bait, the owl right there next to them tells you that you need to use the crystals

[Anonymous No.5994831]

>>5994695
>as if you were supposed to know
you never were, retard.

>>5994793
you need the magic dust that shrinks you to gnome size. Then the puddle becomes a water temple-like level.

[Anonymous No.5994832]

>>5994767
epic joke mr boomer

[Anonymous No.5994838]

>>5994828
The hint is that you need to use ice, not that you need to use the power bracelet

A useful hint might have been "strength is the key"

Fucking had me thinking I needed to find an ice rod or some shit

[Anonymous No.5994857]

>>5994838

>Need to use the ice
>There is Ice right fucking there
>Durr I probably need a magical ice rod

[Anonymous No.5994859]

>>5994806
>>5994825
This is one of my favorite puzzles in the series.

[Anonymous No.5994861]

>>5994825
>99% of the map doesn't have fairies.

[Anonymous No.5994932]

>>5994861
All the Fairy Fountains have fairies, except that one.

[Anonymous No.5995036]

It just kind of has that look of something you can interact with

[Anonymous No.5995061]

>>5994757
It's truly sad that OP has autism but you don't have to be so blunt about it

[Anonymous No.5995141]

>>5994713
I remember that, I got stuck on the exact same part. I'd never picked up any rocks and saw in a walkthrough that you needed to pick one up, then spent hours trying to figure out how to get the bracelet which I didn't need.

[Anonymous No.5995439]

>>5994729
I guess all of my friends at the time were autistic too. Good to know.

[Anonymous No.5995457]

>>5994713
>Zelda is so lazy with it "puzzles" that it conditioned me to wait until I get the exact item to solve the "puzzle" that was built around it.
that's on you fucking twit

[Anonymous No.5995458]

>>5994757
>Not everyone has autism anon
figure out how to work around it then ya freak

[Anonymous No.5995475]

>>5994695
why would there be a stairwell leading to an object the game wouldn't let you use? it's not too much to expect you to think to pick it up, especially when the whole goal of that dungeon is to cool down the lower floor

i just love these weekly 'anon with major brain damage cries that the oracle games don't handhold enough' threads

[Anonymous No.5995481]

>>5995439
And I responded to myself instead. Bravo, me.

[Anonymous No.5995482]

>>5994838
no excuse, retard. the game literally GIVES you ice right there in the same room and you need the power bracelet to pick up anything in the oracle zelda games so it's a no-brainer to think to use it. dicking around looking for another item for no reason is on you, not the game

[Anonymous No.5995484]

>>5994838
>alternate reality where the hint is "strength is the key"
>op makes thread crying about how he doesn't know what to do with the ice he just picked up
retards will be retards no matter what

[Anonymous No.5995493]

>>5994695
>zelda ((("""""pUzZl3S"""")))

[Anonymous No.5995495]

>>5994695
if they ever remake OoA then Rolling Ridge should be completely cut or revamped. it's a fucking nightmare to play that area.

[Anonymous No.5995541]

>>5994695
those "step on each tile only once" rooms in Oracle of Ages. Even the fucking guide didn't help you.

[Anonymous No.5995560]

>>5995541
>stepping on all the tiles so they turn a different color is just such a baffling, complicated concept
it's fucking q-bert. now i know why characters like fi exist in later zelda games. because every other person who plays zelda will immediately collapse to the floor and shit themselves if the game makes them use their higher brain functions for a moment

[Anonymous No.5995574]

>>5995560
I was 8 and i couldn't find the right path. Regardless of how easy or hard it is, the guide shouldn't just say "yeah when you do it you'll get a thing"

[Anonymous No.5995576]

>>5995493
It's hilarious that the game puzzled OP and he decided to take a swing at it

[Anonymous No.5995597]

>>5995541
Because they aren’t hard like at all, just don’t be a retard

[Anonymous No.5995619]

>>5995597
>"i can't fathom someone having trouble on anything in a game when they were younger"
yes and i'm sure you did everything perfectly forever

[Anonymous No.5995630]

>>5994695
You throw ice at the miniboss that you need to beat to get to this room. There's an owl statue before the miniboss room that tells you this.

t. just played this two days ago

[Anonymous No.5995636]

>>5995619
I don't pretend to be perfect. But I also don't make threads to brag about what a little moron I was.

[Anonymous No.5995729]

>>5994695
>despite never picking up ice ever before
normally i would ignore retarded threads like this but this really blows my mind
like you literally think there should be a 'picking up ice' tutorial or that you should be pre-warned about everything in the game before you encounter it
zoomer retard

[Anonymous No.5995739]

>>5994695

[Anonymous No.5995758]

>>5995739

[Anonymous No.5995775]

>>5995457
Fuck you, it's on Zelda. They make the rocks that you're supposed to pick up look exactly like the rocks that you need the bracelet to pick up in other games, then expect you to pick it up on your own to solve the puzzle.

[Anonymous No.5995798]

>>5994695
> having problems in a zelda game
> don't ever talk to me or my son ever again.jpg

[Anonymous No.5995813]

Probably the most obtuse puzzle in the series.
You're supposed to retrieve an orb from a dungeon. Picking up the orb shuts off all exits and prevents you from teleporting out.

You have to give the orb to one of your hirelings and dismiss the hireling. Then you rehire the hireling back in town and the orb will still be there in his inventory.

This is the actual solution to the puzzle, and it's part of the main quest.

[Anonymous No.5995818]

>>5994695
The final level in pic related.

You have to build a bridge across a stretch of water by pushing some blocks into it. Fair enough, you've done that a bunch of times before. But a bunch of the blocks have fires under them, so that when you push them, you die. There is no way to know in advance which ones have fires, nor means of protecting yourself form them. It's just a massive trial and error "puzzle".

[Anonymous No.5995819]

>>5995813
Did they even attempt to explain that in the lore?

[Anonymous No.5995823]

>>5994695
You know how sometimes in RPGs you're just supposed to talk to every npc (and there's only a couple dozen, tops) to get the hint for your next macguffin? This is kind of like that.
>See the thing you were told about.
>push button
>push other button
>keep trying different combinations and equipment configurations until something happens.
>if nothing happens, return to exploring.exe

pic related is obligatory for actual vidya bullshit.

[Anonymous No.5995831]

>>5995819
The hint book tells you the solution, but never mentions *how* or *why* it works. The puzzle really comes down to abusing a game mechanic.

[Anonymous No.5995921]

>>5994713
>>5995775
which zelda game are you even talking about? certainly not either of the oracle ones. you need the power bracelet to pick up anything in those

[Anonymous No.5995928]

>>5995630
the weird cropping on the image tells me that op just pulled it from a youtube thumbnail or something and picked a random aspect of it to pretend to be confused about

[Anonymous No.5995945]

>>5995775
you're so god damn retarded

[Anonymous No.5995948]

WHY DON"T PUZZLES COME PRESOLVED: the thread

[Anonymous No.5996143]

>>5995813

That makes no sense. If the orb does that then the hireling then should be trapped in the dungeon forever. Because of that it is legit to not find that "solution".

[Anonymous No.5996207]

>>5995948
>tfw people actually sell completed jigsaw puzzles for millennials to lazy and retarded to do it themselves

[Anonymous No.5996582]

In RPGs, mazes with looping passages and hidden pit traps

[Anonymous No.5996597]

>>5995823
>there are a total of 5 buttons you can press in this game
>people still couldn't figure out which one to press

[Anonymous No.5996609]

>>5995493
What games legit have more clever puzzles than Zelda though? I genuinely can't think of much which consistently have better thought out and creative uses for your abilities, and seeing these brainlets call the original LoZ a *bullshit guide seller* just shows how low IQ people who think they're hot shit are.

La Mulana is pretty much the only thing I can think of that's the equivalent of Zelda, but more hardcore puzzle wise.

[Anonymous No.5996632]

any time this shit happens, just look up a walkthrough on gamefaqs and skip to where you are in the game. this has been possible since retro times
alternatively you can now look up a longplay on youtube
It'll take a couple minutes and then you can go back to playing without really spoiling anything if you stop using it

[Anonymous No.5996648]

>>5996597
>d-pad
>a button
Do you even think before you post, you dumb bitch.

[Anonymous No.5996663]

>>5996648
up, down, left, right, jump = 5

[Anonymous No.5996674]

>>5996648
consider suicide

[Anonymous No.5996745]

>>5996648
Jokes on you. I'm emulating on a phone with a touch screen.

[Anonymous No.5996889]

>>5996632
Yeah obviously but that kind of dampers the experience so you try to avoid it if possible until you've had the last straw

[Anonymous No.5996923]

>>5994695
whats really bullshit is the fucking Goron dance in oracle of ages. you have to beat it to advance in the game, but its timing based so on emulators in nearly impossible to do

[Anonymous No.5996929]

>>5996923
And that's a problem...how, exactly? The game was designed to be played on a Game Boy Color. That's your own fault, so blame yourself, not the game.

[Anonymous No.5996932]

>>5996929
Its just a unique problem I havent seen in any other game from that era. so basically I cant play that zelda anymore. seasons is still fine

[Anonymous No.5997084]

>>5995574
Some guides were really shitty back then, especially Prima (who is the only still around afaik). My Prima Super Mario 64 guide had made-up names for every level, as if they didn't even play the game or something.

[Anonymous No.5997202]

How was I supposed to know the fire would kill me? Fucking bullshit cheating ass game is what this is. You don't just introduce a new idea without telling the player first what it's all about.

[Anonymous No.5997216]

>>5997202
stupid slut playing on a wii....lol. zoom zoom

[Anonymous No.5997220]

>>5997202
This is like making fun of a little leaguer when you're in the MLB. No shit she sucks, she probably never touched a controller in her life before.

[Anonymous No.5997302]

>>5996932
You can massively cheese it by slowing down and using savestates on your everyday emulator

[Anonymous No.5997382]

>>5996932>>5996923
git gud

[Anonymous No.5997598]

>>5997220
5 year old kids playing this for the first time in 1986 could tell fire is harmful.

[Anonymous No.5997607]

>>5997202
This just looks like a delayed reaction.

[Anonymous No.5997718]

>>5996663
>>5996674
It's a pad, not a button. It isn't called the D-buttons is it? Please turn on your fucking brain.

[Anonymous No.5997735]

>>5994695
>pixel smoothing filter

[Anonymous No.5997742]

>>5997718
>d buttons

[Anonymous No.5997750]

>>5997742
We discuss retro games here sir, not abominations from the future.

[Anonymous No.5997752]

>>5997750
You can play retro games on said abomination.

[Anonymous No.5997756]

>>5997718
backpedaling
up button.. down button...

[Anonymous No.5997818]

>>5997220
>this is like when you have to say "hot hot" when you hand an adult a plate of hot food
FTFY

[Anonymous No.5998007]

>>5997818
More like waitress says "hot hot" and the idiot customer grabs it anyway and still burns themselves

[Anonymous No.5998220]

>>5994695
Getting a Hitmontop in Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal

[Anonymous No.5998419]

>>5995813
Worst part of that puzzle is the game expects you to use hirelings enough to know you can put shit in their inventory and dismiss, and it will still be there the next time you see them. Outside of making the Class quests a bit easier on yourself, there isn't much reason to use hirelings since they cost money you could use to level up instead. Still love M&M2.

>>5996582
>In RPGs, mazes with looping passages
I'm glad I had the subscription to NP when I played Dragon Warrior 2, otherwise I would have probably never gotten out of the cave to Rhone. Probably wouldn't have had the crests either.

Usually every graphical adventure game has a few absolute bullshit puzzles. One I remember stopping me cold as a kid was in Police Quest's VGA remake. At one point you end up stopping some guy on the road, and the car comes back as stolen. So you call for backup. All just following procedure, right? Well, once backup arrives and takes up position and aims at the driver, you need to get out of the car and then aim at the driver and order him out of the car. So you open the door and get out of your car. The driver hops out and shoots you dead, then gets shot by your backup. You try to order him out while still in the car, the game doesn't let you. You shoot the driver, you lose the game. Apparently the trick is to use your gun on your own door, which is how you tell the game you want to use your door as cover. The game doesn't tell you this, and you never do it prior or after.