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5974429 No.5974429 [Reply] [Original]

Games do not become retro after a certain amount of time like the zoomers seem to think. What determines if a game is retro or not is how the game plays and feels, and unfortunately 6th gen games do not play and feel like <= 5th gen games.

>> No.5974431

So all that makes 6th gen not retro is your feels.

>> No.5974436

>>5974429
Retro is anything before ps1

>> No.5974440

Muh feelings boyos

>> No.5974451

>>5974431
Apparently, let's ignore that kids will likely have nostalgia for current gen, or that some people have a shit ton of nostalgia for PS1/N64/Saturn/DOS or whatever, oh no, just because they aren't exactly like the games of previous gens they don't count.

Heck, i think the PS1 IS older than the SNES was when i got into retro gaming and some people still have trouble accepting it as retro, let alone anything after 2000, i have met college graduates that grew up with the PS2 or a GBA, but i doubt those will be considered retro to most retro gamers anytime soon.

>> No.5974453

Ok so then Fight N Rage = retro, Metal Gear Solid = not retro
Sounds fine to me

>> No.5974471

>>5974429
5th gen games do not play like 3rd gen games, and therefore are not retro

>> No.5974473

>>5974471
true
polygons are not retro

>> No.5974474

>>5974429
Sneed.

>> No.5974525

>>5974429
6th Gen games kind of DO play and feel like 5th Gen games though...

>> No.5974527

>>5974429
Retro just means archaic and old.
6th gen games still feel modern enough to not be retro for now,
But 5th gen games are definitely retro.

>> No.5974530

>>5974429
Delete this thread and come back when you're sober.

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>>5974429
The word retro doesn't mean what you think it does. Complaining about others while you sound like a retarded ESL student throwing buzzwords around is some weak shit.

>> No.5974546

>>5974535
What buzzwords?

>> No.5974550

>>5974429
Exactly, completely right. Note that most people still posting in these threads are zoomers coming across the concept for the first time, the vast majority of people are tired of talking about this shit trying to argue with morons but agree with you 100%.

>> No.5974558

>>5974527
Perhaps because your frame of reference for 'modern' is still 2008 Xbox 360 Halo 3. Actual modern today games are Fortnite and Rocket League. Halo 3 is old. PS2 is retro.

Even the way people perceive these games is warped, with trailers, images, and game covers sticking in people's minds. Something like Halo 3 conveys a message of modern and recent, but if you actually go and play the game itself, on an actual console, or any other 360 and PS3 game, you will realise you're playing a decade-old game on more than decade-old hardware. PS2 in comparison to a modern 2019 game looks ancient, played on actual hardware 480i and all.

>> No.5974561

>>5974546
Zoomer, but you're also using retro as if it were a buzzword because you don't know what it means.

>> No.5974563

>>5974429
Just wait another 5 years or so and there can be a "Classics" board where people can discuss generation 6 and I guess the few games worth mentioning generation 7.

>> No.5974651

>>5974563
>ANOTHER vidya board
>there just aren't enough!

>> No.5974669

>>5974429
>muh special board for muh special games from muh special childhood

>> No.5974748

>>5974651
Well /v/ doesn't really count as a video game board at this point, It's more of entertainment video game news with some game discussion and playing hidden in the weeds. /vg/ is getting close to being half the generals being about some gacha games with some of them being zombie generals like KS general, and /vp/ is just a containment board. I think if /v/ was better and people were actually more interested in playing and discussing games than shitposting about whatever offends them or whatever they want to fail then /vr/ wouldn't have so much pressure to have Gamecube threads and such.

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5974752

Can’t wait to start making Halo, NBA 2011, and Call of Duty threads! Tick tock it’s almost retro!

>> No.5974765

>>5974429
>GBA games doesn't play like retro games

>> No.5974776

>>5974429
your feelings are irrelevant to the truth, retro is a word which means

retro
adjective
uk
/ˈret.rəʊ/ us
/-roʊ/
similar to styles, fashions, etc. from the past

yesterday is even the past...

on this board what is "retro" is an arbitrary decision made by the people who run the board, if you don't like it gtfo.

>> No.5974783

>>5974429
Wrong. WRONG. They become "retro" once they're "classic" which is twenty (20) years time.

>> No.5974786

>>5974431
>So all that makes 6th gen not retro is your feels.
no, it just isn't
it never will be

>> No.5974787

I think this worry over PS2, XBox and GameCube threads comes from an entry-level understanding of sixth gen games, one that's limited to the extremely popular stuff like Call of Duty, Halo, etc. People seem to forget that these consoles were among the last times developers would still take risks on weird ideas and experimental gameplay concepts. Some examples that come to mind are
>Katamari Damacy
>Killer 7
>Amplitude
>Jet Set Radio (the original and Future)
>Chulip
>Magic Pengel and its sequel Graffiti Kingdom
>Stretch Panic
>Cubivore
>Chibi-Robo
>Probably a whole bunch of other stuff I'm forgetting

>> No.5974791

>>5974776
/thread

this is the only place I am aware of where 6th gen isn’t retro but then again this is the autismo asylum that is 4chins

>> No.5974792

>>5974651
people on this site play video games more than they watch movies, listen to music or read books so it makes sense they'd have the most boards

>> No.5974796

>>5974787
yep, everyone says they like ps1 and Saturn because of all the weird experimental games but the ps2 was also a goldmine of weird experimental games, that tradition continued into gen 6. Hell even gen 7 with games like mirrors edge. I mean a first person parkour game? Nobody has done it since.

>> No.5974803

>>5974651
blame pokemon and smash and fgo fags for that. /vp/ is because pokemon autismos are basically just bronies, so bad they needed their very own containment board. And /vg/ because without it /v/ would be 99% smash meta threads and mobage gacha threads.

Which now that I am thinking of it /v/ is already loaded with those threads anyway so having alternate boards didn’t do anything to solve the problem. And whenever I ask why they don’t go back to their containment boards they always say because they are too toxic and unpleasant to use.

Fucking lol smash and mobage gacha fags are so bad they don’t even want to be around eachother kek.

>> No.5974807

>>5974748
yep, /v/ has just become a vidya waifu board and e celeb gossip and yeong yeah and jim sterling community forum.

>> No.5974814

>>5974429
>unfortunately 6th gen games do not play and feel like <= 5th gen games.
>ff7/8/9 compared to ff10/10-2/12
yup, checks out
>mgs1 compared to mgs2/3
yup, checks out
>oot/mm compared to ww/tp
yup, checks out
>re1/2/3 compared to re4/cvx
yup, checks out
The divide between retro and non-retro is determined by the difference between 5th and 6th gen games.

>> No.5974816

>>5974807
That's why I came here in the first place. /v/ is /b/ (and so is /pol/) while /vr/ is the real /v/.

>> No.5974819

>>5974453
Vr autists ruined

>> No.5974821

>>5974803
>And whenever I ask why they don’t go back to their containment boards they always say because they are too toxic and unpleasant to use
Why do people do this. Like, did you notice how the point at which /vr/ started going downhill pretty much aligns with the arrival of all of the 6th gen shills? Are they too obtuse to even understand that they're just as cancerous?

>> No.5974824

>>5974821
This board went to shit after people got tired of discussing the same 5 topics. Now it's mostly insecure autists having dick measuring contests

>> No.5974827

If game is 10 years old its retro
deal with it kids

>> No.5974836

>>5974827
>If game is 20 years old its retro
>deal with it kids
ftfy

>> No.5974840

>>5974787
/v/ technically encompasses all video games ever made and look at that place. Whether there are experimental gems doesn't change that if this board opened up to 6th gen, it would fill with a deluge of bait threads about the entry level games. Ready for "baby's first FPS" Halo threads on /vr/? Yeah no, fuck that. The quality of this board has already fallen some increments ever since more pot-kettle-black zoomer flaggers have piled in and incidentally more and more people have been trolling about the 6th gen. We don't need to invite these already awful posters to do the kind of posting they're biding their time to do.

>> No.5974843

>>5974840
>The quality of this board has already fallen some increments
>some
Boy I sure loved forced unfunny SOUL memes and rehashed arguments about why [16 bit system you grew up with] was better than [16 bit system your friends grew up with]
>>5974836
>20 years old its retro
Awesome, look forward to posting about PS2 next year.

>> No.5974850

>>5974843
Not him but I've thought we should move to game age of 18 or 20 years instead of console release for a long time. It would keep things old but also allow for new topics to come up which I think this place sorely needs.

>> No.5974856

>>5974843
>Awesome, look forward to posting about PS2 next year.
You can.

>> No.5974862
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5974862

For me, we should do away with the "retro" moniker and just devote this board to pre-HD/digital videogaming. In effect being a board dedicated to games that ran on hardware with analogue video output since that is what most threads are about. We should be renamed "Analogue Video Gaming" and use the board abbreviation /anal/

>> No.5974864

honestly 6th gen should just get a general. Kind of like how the automotive board has a motorcycle general because motorcycles don’t warrant their own board but car fags are too ocd and autistic to ignore or just filter motorcycle threads so instead they just made a general and made everyone happy.

Making a general really would shut everyone the hell up, it already proved to work on automotive.

>> No.5974867

>>5974862
6th gen isn’t hd
>inb4 muh component
480p isn’t hd

>> No.5974868

>>5974862
No, this place is already too obsessed with displays and doesn't talk nearly enough about actual games. I think all the CRT threads should be shifted to /g/ where they belong.

>> No.5974869

>>5974864
If we do something that sensible how the FUCK are we going to keep arguing about it

>> No.5974874

>>5974864
It wouldn't shut anyone up since the general would be a beacon for the trolls and it would end up as an endless clusterfuck.

>> No.5974883

>>5974874
what exactly would cause trolls to rally there? also this board is already a clusterfuck so would there really be a difference?

>> No.5974885

>>5974868
People do things that you suggest, then people wonder why places like this become tumbleweed towns. CRT threads are based and very appropriate to classic gaming itself for the non-delay alone.

>> No.5974886

>>5974874
trolls are too busy making 16 bit console war threads and shitting up OoT and DKC threads to bother

>> No.5974889

>>5974883
They hate anything past 5th gen with a passion and will do or say anything to derail any kind of conversation. They're obsessed with this board being their secret club and see even acknowledging that hood games exist after 5th gen is seen as a personal attack. Is this your first day on /vr/? They already whine about it constantly, a general would give them fits.

>> No.5974890

>>5974864
Wouldn't work. The Doom general is already a zoomerfest and they can't be arsed to stay in their fucking contention thread. Plus that wouldn't solve anything either
>"Why can't we discuss 6th gen outside of our general, I mean it's already 35678905 years old"

>> No.5974894

>>5974885
Well I think we should move to allowing any game either 18 or 20 years old as up for discussion in addition to moving technology hardware threads to the board actually dedicated to that.

>> No.5974895

>>5974429
>Feels
I feel like your opinion is wrong therefore you should leave the thread.

>> No.5974896

>>5974890
I don’t see any doom threads outside of doom general.

>> No.5974898

>>5974885
There's absolutely nothing wrong with having a slow board as long as it stays on point. In fact, that's way better than giving easy access to a shitload of new people and watch them ruin a place you used to care about.

>> No.5974902

>>5974896
also forgot to add I don’t see anyone complaining about not being able to crt post outside of gen so your concern is already proven unwarranted

>> No.5974904

>>5974898
>muh sekret club stay out zoomers!

>> No.5974906

>>5974894
I'd be for that. That's very reasonable. Can we just allow stuff from 19 years ago already at least (to any mod reading)? waiting a year is so stupid at this point.

>> No.5974912

>>5974896
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/5966874/#5966874
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/5956694/#5956694
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/5953763/#5953763
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/5950683/#5950683
And so on.

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>>5974898
>Noooo, no new people in my elite clubhouse!
>This is my board and new people will take it away from me!

>> No.5974917

>>5974898
You got a point, but this place needs some new life or people will troll more out of boredom. The other anon's suggestion was fine, but if it were up to me, I'd keep the CRT threads here and allow stuff from 19 and 18 years ago.
Another idea: posts per poster could be limited per day. It would make people think twice before wasting their posts.

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5974920

>>5974904
>>5974916
Yes. You fucking will. Keep proving me right with your zoomie memes.

>> No.5974924

>>5974898
MUH SEEKRET CLUB

>> No.5974928

man all the crusty angry old dusty farts on this board are pathetic and hilarious, go back to sm64 posting and shut up you geezers

>> No.5974931

>>5974916
>>5974904
>>5974924
>>5974928
quality posts, we're really missing out by not allowing 6th gen

>> No.5974934

>>5974916
But you're all here now and the place isn't ruined. Not talking about Gamecube is retarded. Life is short.

>> No.5974937

>>5974934
>and the place isn't ruined
uh...

>> No.5974939
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5974939

>>5974906
Personally I think 20 is a good amount of time, but 18 has a nice synchronicity with the rules. Once the game would be old enough to post here, it can be talked about.

For one the console rule just doesn't make sense. We can talk about Dreamcast games that are pretty much the same as their PS2 counterparts because of when the system came out, but not a GBA game released a year or more earlier.

And second as mentioned it would both keep all discussion to old games but also allow for regular new things that can be discussed. Regardless of how you feel about what should be considered retro I think we can all agree that this place has grown both stale and more vitriolic. I would also hope we're all on the same page that what we really want is more discussion about old games.

>> No.5974940

I think what is happening is the the majority of shitposters on /v/ are frustrated 6th Gen posters. So allowing 6th gen will actually cut down on shitposts.

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5974947

>>5974939
>Personally I think 20 is a good amount of time, but 18 has a nice synchronicity with the rules. Once the game would be old enough to post here, it can be talked about.
Agreed on both counts. Let's just allow 6th gen, damn.

>And second as mentioned it would both keep all discussion to old games but also allow for regular new things that can be discussed. Regardless of how you feel about what should be considered retro I think we can all agree that this place has grown both stale and more vitriolic
You are a correct person, anon.

>> No.5974962

>>5974937
This is truly one of the better boards in that it adheres to the rules and it's rare that heinously illegal shit gets posted and if it does it's gone quickly along with the faggot who posted it.

>> No.5974969

>>5974962
Careful, that's meta-discussion. You could find yourself 1 day banned for breaking even that rule here.

>> No.5974970
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5974970

Pic related is another reason why it's dumb to disallow 6th generation systems and games.

>> No.5974972

>>5974969
Calling out bans can result in a ban.
Also, systems like Gamecube can be exclusively classic "retro" game machines if so desired, like the pic above illustrates.

>> No.5974976

>>5974969
It's so fun reporting things and watching them get deleted.

>> No.5974979

>>5974970
Compilations and remakes are allowed. You found this board yesterday or something?

>> No.5974989
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5974989

>>5974979
If a half measure on a 6th gen is allowed, then why not allow pic related?
Game carefully chosen because it has 3 classic emulations inside of it, but its Rebel Strike gameplay is also classic now, is my point. 19, 20 years-who cares?

>> No.5974992

>>5974972
So can a nintendo switch, but I wouldn't call it retro.

>> No.5974996

>>5974752
nobody would talk about these games even if they were allowed here

>> No.5974997
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5974997

>>5974989
I don't own the cart and don't emulate so when I want to get down with some excitebike I play it in Animal Crossing. Does that count?

>> No.5975003

>>5974997
I would say it counts, but that is emulation. Still looking for an easy way to unlock all those games; and I have no interest in playing the actual game, I just think it's cool that it's essentially a greatest hits emulation disc.

>> No.5975005

>>5974997
And that is such a comfy scene. Thanks for posting it.

>> No.5975008

all thic crying over allowing games from 2000 onward when posting about gbc games has been allowed since /vr/'s inception

>> No.5975014

I would argue 5th gen. 5th gen was the beginning of "3d and fuck gameplay" and "style over substance" bullshit that continued on past that.
/vr/ should be pre-5th gen / pre-1995 games only. Period.

>> No.5975015

>>5974992
You can in 17 years and some change.

>> No.5975018

>>5975014
>like half of the gameboy's most popular games shouldn't be allowed cause some retard thinks mario 64 is style over substance

>> No.5975021

>>5975014
I don't entirely agree, but you got a point in that it was the generation that felt and looked dramatically different than the previous generations, e.g., Castlevania SotN threads always look out of place. Not the best example, but I couldn't think of a good 3D example.

>> No.5975034

>>5975018
Gameboy is 4th gen and all 4th gen is allowed, just like now post-1999 games from 5th gen is allowed, dumbshit.
And Mario 64 is shit. It's forced 3d on a genre that is terrible with it (bad controls, horrible camera). Get over it, kid, your childhood games were shit. It'd be like me being under some sort of delusion that Atari 2600's ET was a fucking great game.

>> No.5975036

>>5974868
Nah, crt is directly related to retro gaming, thus it is appropriate for thus board. By your logic, all video game threads should go to /g/ as well

>> No.5975039

>>5975034
>comparing Mario 64 to E.T. on memetari 2600

>> No.5975043

>>5975034
All that text just to say that you never got all 120 stars. tssk tssk

>> No.5975046

>>5975034
>a critically acclaimed masterpiece is the same as a game that was universally panned to the point where a massive grave was made in the desert for it
just making an analogy doesn't automatically make you right, dipshit. /vr/ shouldn't be based around what games you personally think are shit or not

>> No.5975048
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5975048

>>5975039
Yeah, because they were both shit. Get over it, Dumbest Generation, your Greatest Game Ever is garbage that was only "successful" because of aggressive Nintendo marketing and paid off reviewers.
Enjoy a real review of Mario 64.

>> No.5975049

>>5974429
I 100% agree with this methodology, but I have to note that the transition between clunky "retro" games to smoother "modern" games happened midway through the sixth generation at different paces for different genres. Early generation games like Code Veronica or Medal of Honor Frontline feel like they fall in a transitionary area between the two.

>> No.5975051

>>5975043
I bet you never beat E.T., either, but being "good" at a bad game doesn't make the game good, it just makes you a stubborn idiot.

>> No.5975054

>>5974429
Games do not become retro after a certain amount of time like the zoomers seem to think. What determines if a game is retro or not is how the game plays and feels, and unfortunately 5th gen games do not play and feel like <= 4th gen games.

>> No.5975057

>>5974920
Keep posting this anon, one day it may be true!

>> No.5975060

>>5975051
>I bet you never beat E.T
You are correct because it is a cash-grabbing buggy piece of shit.
>>5975048
>Mario 64
>shit
le good zoomer troll

>> No.5975063

>>5975054
>Games do not become retro after a certain amount of time
Yes they do, and I'm old enough to be a zoomies's father.

>> No.5975067

>>5974429
>The PlayStation 2 will not be retro in 2049 because anon says so

>> No.5975068

>>5974997
Animal Crossing is technically /vr/, since the Gamecube game is just an enhanced port of an N64 game.

>> No.5975073

>>5974752
>Year 2037
>Be me
>37 years old
>"Man they don't make video games like they used to, Black Ops 1 sure was kino.

>> No.5975082

>>5975068
Did the N64 version have the NES/Famicom games?

>> No.5975083 [DELETED] 

>>5975073
Yeah but the # game in 2037 will be Happy Fun Poop Time 5.

>> No.5975085

>>5975073
Yeah but the #1 game in 2037 will be Happy Fun Poop Time 5.

>> No.5975091

>>5975082
No and the N64 isn't stronk nuff to play NES games. It can do ZX Spectrum games though, e.g., inside the Goldeneye cartridge, but was only playable in testing stages.

>> No.5975095

I get this kind of thought, it's just annoying to not really have a good place to talk about PS2 / Gamecube / Dreamcast. here it's fucking outlawed and /v/ is too focussed on fortnite or dark souls or whatever just came out. I propose a new board for 6th gen

>> No.5975097

>>5975048
>literally just bad at mario

i dont even have the nostalgia for it, i played it for the first time this year and it controls so much better than most 3d games. it's just too precise for nu-fag gamers

>> No.5975102

>>5975091
A better example is probably Donkey Kong 64, where the ZX Spectrum version of Jetpac was mandatory to finish the game.

>> No.5975105

>>5975102
That's fair, and that's got to be a one-shot, I mean, I can't think of any other games besides DK64 that require the player to play an emulation as part of the regular game.

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5975194

>Deus Ex, Diablo 2 and Baldur's Gate 2 were all released in 2000, but are ok to be discussed on /vr/ for some reason
REALLY MAKES YOU THINK

>> No.5975232

>>5975194
>platforms launched in 1999 and earlier

>> No.5975242
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5975242

>>5975232
>All personal computer games are retro

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>>5975242
The platform in question in Windows 9X. The rules here don't care at all when a game was made or released, just what platform it runs on.

>> No.5975298

it's funny to me

that everyone screeching about 6th gen being retro

they don't understand what makes a retro game retro

their ignorance would fundamentally ruin what is a wonderful board

they'd bring their /v/ culture (which is just a variation of /b/)

and we just don't want that

we don't want you

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>>5975298
great

paragraphing

everything

>> No.5975423

>>5975298
Okay so what, in your personal opinion, makes a game "retro"?

>> No.5975537

>>5974429
We call them "Retro+", because there is obviously specific feel they have

>> No.5975543

>>5975298
>we
Same way SNES fags took over title of retro even though it belonged to Atari 2600 and Arcade games only.

>> No.5975550

There is a definite change around the turn of the millenium from arcade-descended, gameplay-focused games to cinematic, narrative experiences.

>> No.5975557

That is all true, but in a practical sense, most of us are here to relive the games from our childhood.

>> No.5975567

>>5975091
Was probably more to do with the data limitation of the cartridge. There's a NES emulator for the PS1 fyi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uafVkxAZ1g

>> No.5975569

>>5974473
Star fox is not retro by your reasoning.

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5975572

>>5975557
Absolutely false.

>> No.5975616

>>5974429
Fuck off

>> No.5975628

I don't really care for this debate, all I know is that allowing 6th gen means having Melee threads, and I don't want to have Melee threads.

>> No.5975648

>>5975423
it obviously has to be in the style of games from the bygone age of prior to 1999

>> No.5975656
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I LOVED my Dreamcast when I was like, 12, and even I have trouble considering it retro at times. So I guess what I'm saying is we all have different cutoffs but time keeps on ticking, eventually new shit gets old. It's not a big deal.

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>>5974429
guess this is retro then

>> No.5975661

>>5975657
It's not

>> No.5975726

Every other retro game forum I have ever been a part of has evolved with time. /vr/ is literally the only place I've seen like this.
/vr/ is peak retro as it will forever be stuck in the past, unable to change. It will always fully represent the most autistic aspects of the concept of retro gaming.

Remember the first few weeks, first few months of this place? Fuck that shit was comfy.
is OG /vr/ board culture retro yet? Could we have a retro /vr/ board, where we go back to liking games and not being dick obsessed over a newer yet somehow less autistic generation?
/rvr/ when?

>> No.5975930

>>5975298
shit poem

>> No.5975931

>>5975726
For the first few days, 5th generation wasn't even allowed. Then Dreamcast didn't get added for months.

>> No.5975937

>>5975726
We can't because some faggot zoomer would show up and I can't handle that. Now everyone agree with me about Sonic and Knuckles and Breath of Fire 2 before I have a fit!

>> No.5976067

>>5974429
The problem is that this isn't a retro board, it's just named retro vidya.

>> No.5976089

>>5976067
Yeah if it were a retro board we'd be talking about Cave Story and Shovel Knight

>> No.5976098

Ultimately the term "retro" is too broad a stroke to aptly describe paradigms in gaming. Consider the following:

Golden Age: 1st Gen to 3rd Gen
SIlver Age: 4th Gen to 5th Gen
Bronze Age: 6th Gen
Iron Age: 7th Gen

>> No.5976107

>>5974429
Yes they do become retro. They don't become an earlier generation, but by any dictionary's definition of retro, they become retro. Pick another fucking word or phrasr so we don't need these pointless threads.

>> No.5976115

Easier solution :
Rename /vr/ from "Retro Games" to "99 and under gaming", so we can stop arguing about definitions and 6th gen fags can fuck off.

>> No.5976126

Games after Gen 1 aren't retro.

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>>5976089
Cave Story is awesome; I don't think /vr/ would deny that.

>> No.5976260

>>5976107
You need to re-read your dictionary.

>> No.5976383

>>5975285
Rules clearly say that PC games released after 1999 are forbidden.

>> No.5976386

>>5975657
It is.

>> No.5976413

>>5974840
Discussion on /vr/ is repetitive. Castlevania, Doom, Final Fantady, Metroid, etc threads ad nauseam. 6th gen would open the discussion pool a bit more. Unless you’re content with arguing Mario 3/World and circle jerking SOTN forever.

>> No.5976420

>>5975726

I trust those other forums' users. Not 4chan's.

Even if all the actual zoomers integrated into the forum perfectly, there would be at least one shitposter who's salty about the rules change and would make it their life's mission to shit up the board until it's changed back.

>> No.5976498

>>5976420
It sounds like you shouldn't be on 4chan in the first place.

>> No.5976502

>>5976383
Lol. Show me the part that you think says that.

>> No.5976506

>>5974453
OP BTFO, 150 posts in and no response

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>>5974429
"Retro" is a term similar to "antique" and "vintage". The years they represent are,

Retro: Anything that is both discontinued, not supported by the original company, & from a previous generation or fad that went in/out of style at one time. (Ex: your father's original PlayStation)
Estate: Anything previously used. (Ex: Wii U bought at a yardsale)
Vintage: 20 years old (Ex: Final Fantasy VIII)
Antique: 100 years old (Ex: "The Landlord's Game" aka Monopoly [pic])

>> No.5976512

>>5976507
Pick up a dictionary sometime numbnuts.

>> No.5976574

>>5976512
I worked in an antique store for over 30 years, kid.

>> No.5976624

>>5976574
Then you should have gained a basic understanding of the words you just misused.

>> No.5976625

Let's just rip the band aid off: retro games come from a time when they were made with heart and dedication for a niche audience without having to be mainstream, AAA bags of shit.

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>>5976625
The video game industry has always chased popular trends. Those trends just change is all.

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>>5976640
Did Mortal Kombat ever gave any fetish to somebody with all this voring and inflating?

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>>5976760
MK is responsible for so so many fetishes

>> No.5976960

>>5976624
do you feel superior yet? hit them with the definitions again

>> No.5976983

>>5976960
Not him but most people know that the word "retro" can mean a particular time frame. If he worked in the antique business for 30 minutes he would know that.

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>>5974429
The only people whining about wanting 6th gen to be retro are people who don't want to fucking discuss it on /v/ because that board is shit. But of course, if you do bring 6th gen here, all those people who attempted to have 6th gen discussion on /v/ would instead migrate to /vr/ and bring this board down even more.

The Dreamcast was different because the mods fucked up by having contradicting rules (no 6th gen, but 1999 and before is allowed) and had to concede that the Dreamcast was retro. If they said "5th gen and before" we would've never had this mess in the first place.

>> No.5977009

>>5976985
No - 1999 works for PC games, Arcade games and consoles. What they should do is drop generations. Drop this entire verbal diarrhea:

" With the release of the 8th generation of consoles, the Sega Dreamcast will now be considered "retro", though the remainder of the sixth generation (Xbox, PS2, GameCube) will not."

That completely unnecessary line brings drama to it, sometimes less is more.

>> No.5977015

>>5977009
(continued) though to be fair, at least it makes it clear to /v/tards who aren't always the sharpest tools around.

>> No.5977028

>>5976983
I mean it's pointless to argue the meaning of retro on /vr/ board. Discussing old consoles keeps the riffraff out.

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>>5976737
>>5976745
So he's in?

>> No.5977051

6th should be considered retro because it shared more similarity to the gens prior than differences. There were online play since 4th gen. There were 4+ player coop since the 3rd. It was the last gen with plug and play style of operation. It was the last hurrah for arena FPS, on-rails FPS, fighting games, beatemups, top down airship shooters, and RTS. DLC existed but they cost no money and were used as its original intent; as a bonus post game. Nearly all games required physical copy to play. It was the last of an era where both eastern and western devs tried to take something positive from each other as opposed to going their own way, flipping birds. I will be able to load in my copy of -insert any 6th gen game that I own- in 20 years just like I'd be able to with my Mega Drive or PC engine.

To me, the biggest difference between retro console games and modern ones are the forced online and all these fucking installation process. They successfully turned all games into rental services in modern market, and nobody really owns anything.

If you can't see that, your head is stuck up your ass. 6th gen IS retro for anywhere else on the internet but this specific fucking board.

>> No.5977054

>>5977051
it's its own beast
I call it halcyon gaming

>> No.5977270

>>5976413
then leave.

>> No.5977282

>>5974429
By that logic gba should be allowed on here.

>> No.5977285

>>5977051
Xbox live proved that paid for service on consoles was actually profitable, and there is a big shift happening then to the online always (even on PC with Steam and the release of HL2). While /v/ is a shithole and I would like a place I could discuss something like Steambot Chronicles or whatever that couldn't really survive on something fast like /v/, there's no need to sacrifice /vr/ to have just another /v/.

>> No.5977407

>>5974896
dude what, there were 5 active this week not including the general

>> No.5977414

>>5974976
fuck you

>> No.5977440

There's more than one vintage.
A 90's Midway pinball table is retro. A 70's Chicago Coin pinball table is retro.
They are pretty different from one another because they're different vintages.

The same thing is true of video games whether a game is of a particular vintage or a modern retro aping of their style.

>> No.5977446

>>5977414
Why?

>> No.5977591

>>5974429
Exactly right

>> No.5977650

>>5974429
Is the GBA retro and if not, why?

>> No.5977652

>>5977650
it's not retro

>> No.5977721

>>5974429
Dreamcast is 6th gen, also you don't get decide what is and isn't retro when you don't know how to put on underwear.

>> No.5977724

>>5977650
It's not retro because it doesn't fit the deffinition of the word and it's not up for discussion here because it doesn't fall under the rules. Is any part of that confusin

>> No.5978440

>>5977724
>the deffinition of the word and it's not up for discussion
care to extrapolate?

>> No.5978503

>>5977724
>it's not retro because I say so

>> No.5978507

>>5978440
Maybe try reading the whole sentence and it wouldn't be confusing. I'll break it down for your tiny brain. The GBA isn't retro in the literal sense of the word, so it's clearly not retro in that contex. Then even though our rules don't reflect what the word retro means, GBA also doesn't fit so is not up for discussion.

Incidentally the actual deffinition of what "retro" means is also not up for discussion since it's meaning is well defined.

>> No.5978508

>>5978503
I know, understanding words is hard. But here I laid it out so even a blubbering retard like you can understand. >>5978507

>> No.5978512

>>5978507
>it's meaning is well defined
care to extrapolate?

>> No.5978518

>>5978512
See
>>5976745
>>5976737

Or, pick up a fucking dictionary and learn for yourself. What's it like to need every little thing down to deffinitions if simple words spoonfed to you? Can you even dress yourself in the morning?

>> No.5978521

>>5978518
>>5977724
what's a double f deffinition? how is it different from the single f definition one finds in dictionaries?

>> No.5978525

>>5978521
>SPOODFEED ME MORE! ME TOO STUPID TO LEARN ON ME OWN!

You're retarded lol

>> No.5978529

>>5978525
>t. too retarded to explain

>> No.5978537

>>5978529
I'm too lazy to bother paying attention to spelling when replying to someone I think it probably literally retarded. Deepest apologies if that confused your childlike mind even more.

>> No.5978540

>>5978537
just admit that you don't know

>> No.5978545

>>5978540
I literally just explained. So you can't even comprehend a basic sentence then? At least you're consistent.

>> No.5978547

>>5978545
know how to spell
sorry for assuming that you could fill it in yourself

>> No.5978550

>>5978547
So if you understood it was a misspelling, why demand spoonfeeding? Are you purely just trolling at this point?

>> No.5978556

>>5978550
I first followed the principle of charity
wholly misdirected charity, it would turn out
>demand
you might need a dictionary

>> No.5978569

>>5978556
So to recap, you asked me to explain why word retro is well defined. After doing so, you saw there was a spelling error and wanted me then to explain that to you (conveniently ignoring the actual substance of what was being discussed). Then after explaining that I'm not putting a ton of energy into my replies to you your response was "just admit that you don't know" which is enough of a non sequitur I wonder if you are just pretending to be this stupid for trolling purposes. Now you claim you are being charitable lol.

>> No.5978576

>>5978569
did you take time teach yourself what the word demand actually means?

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>>5978576
I know what it means and is appropriate for how you're acting.

Let's get back on topic though. Are you still confused about the word retro? Do you understand yet why the GBA isn't retro by either definition?

>> No.5978590

>>5978584
>[it] is appropriate for how you're acting
wrong
practice a bit more

>> No.5978595

>>5978590
I still think it'ss very appropriate, but I will concede it's misuse.

Back on topic, do you understand the word retro yet? Let's not forget where this all started.

>> No.5978601

>>5978595
why is the word the important part and not the concept? why focus on the signifier and not what it signifies? are you a postmodernist?

>> No.5978605

>>5978601
The definition of the word explains the context. How is this actually confusing for you? It's a simple word and a simple concept. Are you just upset that what it means doesn't apply to the GBA?

>> No.5978606

>>5978605
>The definition of the word explains the context.
care to extrapolate?

>> No.5978610

>>5978606
You honestly need me to explain to you how word deffinitions work?

>> No.5978614

>>5978610
what makes you think that?

>> No.5978620

>>5978614
Because you're still asking me to extrapolate how the definition explains the context when understanding the word should be pretty easy for anyone who isn't genuinely retarded. It's genuinely baffling that you need things like definitions of words laid out for you like this. How do you even function in the world?

>> No.5978623

>>5978620
>This board is for the discussion of classic, or "retro" games. Retro gaming means consoles, computer games, arcade games (including pinball) and any other forms of video games on platforms launched in 1999 and earlier. With the release of the 8th generation of consoles, the Sega Dreamcast will now be considered "retro", though the remainder of the sixth generation (Xbox, PS2, GameCube) will not.
What's the (note: the means only otherwise it's a) context here?

>> No.5978629

>>5974527
no retro actually means something new in the style of something old. Are nes games retro? nope. is shovel knight retro? yes

>> No.5978630

>>5978623
I was talking about the actual definition of the word, not how it's misused here. That doesn't define the word, just the rules of the board. >>5978507
Again how is any of this so confusing that you still need it explained more?

>> No.5978632

>>5978629
See, this guy gets it. It's not like it's a hard concept.

>> No.5978635

>>5978630
>That doesn't define the word, just the rules of the board.
completely unrelated to a pre-existing concept? it could have defined it as a game with a title beginning with p?

>> No.5978638

>>5974814
sarcasm?

>> No.5978643

>>5974989
>then why not allow pic related
cause someone would have the update the rules and no one even remembers this board exists

and it would upset the autists

>> No.5978647

>>5978635
Yes, it certainly could if those were the rules. The name chosen for the board doesn't really matter, it's just a name. What matters is the board rules which are clearly defined.

It so happens that the name chosen for the board relates to something different than the board is set up to discuss but again that doesn't really matter. >>5978629


So yes, the board could be called "retro games" but the rules could say that the board is here only to discuss games starting with the letter "p".

>> No.5978658

>>5977285
>there's no need to sacrifice /vr/ to have just another /v/.
It wouldnt be the xbox talk that would ruin /vr/ it would be the autists shit posting cos xbox talk got let in

>> No.5978661

>>5978647
lucky us that they didn't choose something even more retarded when they chose a completely random arbitrary definition!

>> No.5978675

>>5978661
For sure it would have been more convenient for people like you if it were called "old games" but it doesn't have as catchy a ring to it and whoever chose the name didn't anticipate people as thick headed as you coming here. That's hubris for ya!

>> No.5978680

>>5978675
>I'm a mindreader
cool!

>> No.5978695

>>5978680
Lol 0/10 reading comprehension again. I was explaining how they weren't mind readers and thus overestimated the mental capacity of some of the people who would show up here.

Real talk though, you should put more effort into trying to understand things yourself instead of asking to have everything explained in such excruciating detail. Assuming you're indeed over 18 and not certified mentally disabled, none of this should have been confusing to you. It might be precisely because you don't try to learn on your own that you have such trouble.

>> No.5978701

>>5978695
you're a mindreader who can read the minds of the people who made the board
>they weren't mind readers
>they
I didn't say they and I didn't use plural
-infinity/reading comprehenstion
L O L
O
L

>> No.5978706

>>5978701
I never claimed to be a mind reader though. I simply assume that the people who named the board didn't anticipate it would trigger and upset people like you yo the degree it has. But touche, maybe that was their plan all along.

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>>5974429
This needed a topic.

>> No.5978712

>>5978706
>trigger

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>>5974429
Why not just call old gens classic retro new ones young retro?

>> No.5978718

>>5978712
Yup. Seems like a very appropriate word for how you've been reacting to the dichotomy of the board's name with the deffinition of the word itself.

>> No.5978723

>>5978718
>I'm a mindreader

>> No.5978724

>>5978716
Because that would confuse people like this >>5978512 even more than it does already.

>> No.5978727

>>5978723
Again, no part of that is claiming mind reading. Are you trying to now say you actually did understand this whole time?

>> No.5978731

>>5974429
The word "old" is subjective itself. Some people consider 40 year olds as old, some don't. So having an """"objective"""" and """"undisputed"""" definition of retro, which is very similar to old, is retarded.

>> No.5978739

>>5978727
do you know what trigger means?

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Yup. Seems appropriate to your reaction of having such a hard time understanding what "retro" means lol.

>> No.5978764

>>5978747
>hate
care to citate?

>> No.5978819

>>5974429
Psychonauts is a retro game despite this boards da rules.

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>> No.5978857

PS2 is retro

>> No.5978875

>>5978857
6th gen is retro and 7th gen actually is about to be retro with the next gen being right around the corner and the X360 being F I F T E E N YEARS FUCKING OLD

SKYRIM THREADS ON /VR/ GET FUCKING READY

>> No.5978880

Would anyone here consider a 2003 Nokia brick phone with the antenna and the battery pack that’s basically half the phone be a -retro- phone?

Come on now. You know you would.

>> No.5978883

>>5974429
>retro is an entity outside of the contextual laws of the universe
Back to /x/, /pol/, /church/, etc

>> No.5978887

>>5978875
7th gen isn't retro

>> No.5978909

>>5978887
Did I say it was yet?

>> No.5978913

>>5978764
Nah, I got bored. Where you are on the retard vs asshole scale is kinda irrelevant anyways.

>> No.5978914

>>5978819
How is it retro?

>> No.5978918

>>5978913
>just trust me bruh

>> No.5978924

>>5978918
Trust what?

>> No.5978948

>>5978924
do you know how to read?

>> No.5978971

>>5978948
Try saying something coherent and I'll be happy to read it.

>> No.5978982

>>5978971
go fuck yourself

>> No.5978984

>>5978971
should be enough to understand your own posts to see what we were talking about

>> No.5979004

>>5978984
I know exactly what we were discussing. You really need me to cite where I thought you were coming off as triggered? Lol

>> No.5979010

>>5979004
it is considered good form to offer evidence for one's claims

>> No.5979052

>>5979010
That's nice. So you're not angry, just really stupid? I honestly don't care much one way or the other.

>> No.5979059

>>5979052
>I honestly don't care much
>replies more than 20 times

>> No.5979060

>>5979059
Sorry I tried to help someone stupid understand something I thought was simple. Silly me for not assuming it was just a pissy troll the whole time.

>> No.5979061

>>5976502
Retro gaming means consoles, computer games, arcade games (including pinball) and any other forms of video games on platforms launched in 1999
>computer games

>> No.5979064

>>5978658
>It wouldnt be the xbox talk that would ruin /vr/
the permanent ps2/dc/xbox/gc-shitflinging-contests would.

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Hi, late twenties here
I need a new board and hobby
Do you recommend /vr/?

>> No.5979068

>>5979060
god's little samaritan

>> No.5979069

>>5979061
Exactly. That specifically says computer games on platforms launched prior to 1999 are up for discussion here. By deffinition, any game that runs in Windows 9X fits that bill.

>> No.5979071

>>5979068
That's what I get for giving someone the benefit of the doubt I guess, lol.

>> No.5979072

>>5979069
Fucking ESL retard
It's saying
>Consoles released on platforms in 1999
>computer games released in 1999
>arcade games released in 1999
>any other forms of video games on platforms launched in 1999
And I think the ESL mod who wrote this doesn't understand that using the word "in" means only in 1999, not on or before.

>> No.5979074

>>5979071
L O L
A U O
U T U
G D
H

>> No.5979097

>>5979064
I doubt it, seeing as there are already threads just like the one you mentioned, except for 1st gen, 2nd gen, etc

There would be no significant change whatsoever

>> No.5979103

>>5979059
>also replies 20 times

But the first one to make notice of this wins the argument by default.

>> No.5979110

>>5979103
lucky me

>> No.5979124

>>5979072
Nope.

>> No.5979126

>>5979124
Fucking ESL retard

>> No.5979159

>>5979126
Now you're just straight up denying facts you dummy.

>> No.5979192

Is this meta thread still up only because it’s *against* 6th gen?

All the pro 6th gen meta threads get deleted by bitchmade mods

Makes you do a big think.

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>>5979192

>> No.5979196

>>5979193
Still a valid point

>> No.5979239

Sooner or later 6th gen will have to be added. Hell dlc was basically unknown for most of gen 6 and once a game was shipped that was it no patches or nothing similar to gen 5. Kids today would be utterly confused

>> No.5979243

>>5974787
>>5974796
I guarantee you would never see a game like mister mosquito today and that was 6th gen

>> No.5979248

6th gen fans actually have it the worst on 4chan
>can’t go to /vr/ because not retro
>can’t discuss on /v/ because children say the graphics are shit

>> No.5979263

>>5975085
Personally, I think the series went to shit after Happy Fun Poop Time 3

>> No.5979268

>>5979248
that's what it's like to be a minority

>> No.5979546

>>5974436
Not according to the sticky

>> No.5979597

>>5974429
5th gen games have more in common with 6th gen games than 4th gen games though.

>> No.5979610

>>5974429
>What determines if a game is retro or not is how the game plays and feels

I have bad news for you Anon...

>> No.5980439

>>5979610
He's right though.

>> No.5980986

>>5980439
>Retro doesn't mean what it means, it means what I want it to.

>> No.5980993

>>5980986
The definition of retro is very clearly defined at the top of this board.

>> No.5981010

GBA should be welcome here desu. It’s old as dirt and the games are as “retro” as anything in terms of graphics and gameplay.

>> No.5981083

>>5981010
so sixers can point at two examples of why the other consoles need to be accepted too?

>> No.5981114

>>5981010
Second this. The library is kino.

>> No.5981126

>>5974429
I'm not sure. I really wish 6th gen was allowed here, beyond that I don't think I'd consider any other gen "retro" even after X ammount of years

>> No.5981134

>>5981126
>I want to be included in a board that wants not part of me and keeps telling me to fuck off.

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5981142

My two cents:

The pinned post is dated to 2014. I couldn't say when /vr/ specifically splintered out of /v/, but in any case this board has been going for a while with a relatively unbudging definition of retro games. Well, in the space of 5 years, it stands to reason a board that, at the time considered 2000 and the Dreamcast it's cutoff could stand to bump up 5 years and start calling "NOT RETRO" on stuff past 2005 instead of 2000. This would make for more varied discussion by broadening things a little while not suddenly opening the floodgates to all sorts of stuff that doesn't need to be there. I mean come on, compare a cutting edge game from 2005 to what we have now in nearly 2020. I think that would be a decent rule of thumb to follow instead of this perpetual bickering between the gen5 purists and people wanting to talk about clunky early gen6. I sincerely doubt we'll see any change in the ratio of shit threads to gems.

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REFUGEES WELCOME

>> No.5981269

>>5981083
Yea, after 20 years PS2 is gonna be retro af whether you like it or not
>Damn those N64 fags want inclusion under the "retro" flag. 2D or BTFO

>> No.5981272

>>5981142
It's not like /v/ spends lot of time discussing those, so what the hell, just add them.

>> No.5981284

>>5979248
The problem is just that most the video game boards are shit right now on 4chan. They need to split out gacha games onto their own board and probably just get rid of /vg/ entirely. There needs to be a video game news to where 80% of current /v/ could go. Since there are not many current good games to talk about, people could talk about PS2 and shit a lot more easily.

Opening up /vr/ will just turn it into another /v/. Mods need to fix /v/ first then worry about /vr/. It's really simple, too. Just ban all mobile IP ranges and all HTTP requests with a mobile browser header. That would instantly cut down on the majority of shitposting on the site and improve everything drastically since mods could at least enforce bans better and they amount of sockpuppet samefagging would go down. Everyone has a cell phone, but not everyone has a proxy (and they also ban a lot of known proxy IP ranges already).

>> No.5981291

>>5981269
Then those fuxxers won't see the gamecube either

>> No.5981293

I hope that 6th gen games can be discussed someday.
That said mods are doing well, and it feels almost wrong saying that on a 4chan board, but they are effectively keeping this board away from /v/ shit.

>> No.5981327

>>5974970
To be fair, the PS2 had a lot of retro collections as well.

>> No.5981338

>>5978507
GBA should be allowed here because it's basically a portable SNES with a lot of revivals of classic games and classic collections.

THE DS library is at least 75% shovelware.

>> No.5981354

Get Hiro to make /v2k/ and make the Wii U the newest console you're allowed to discuss. Much like the dreamcast, the wii u has more in common with the previous generation of consoles than the new one, not to mention that the 8th gen is the death of the single player game and the birth of these awful trends of lootboxes, microtransactions, and live service "games". 7th gen may have been bad but I'd rather have single player content locked behind dlc than a multiplayer only game (that has an "expiration date" no less, plus no private servers for pc) that not only costs full price but you also have to spend money for a chance of unlocking an advantage.

>> No.5981357

>>5981354
>>5974651

>> No.5981362

>>5981357
how about moderate the /v/ board you fucking weebs

>> No.5981369

>>5981357
So what? There isn't some rule that says there can't be a certain number of boards. Fuck off

>> No.5981401

>>5974803
/vg/ creation predates Smash, FGO, and all that other faggotry it has become now. It was actually around the time of the shazbowl that the split happened. The argument was that generals pretty much took over the board, but to be fair all a general is really is just a saying "let's generally talk about X game, and keep it in the same thread." It didn't have copypasta OP with pastebins , thread counts, and structure they have now at first. Now since you can't just say on /v/ that you want to "generally talk about a video game" in the OP, you have to type some shitposting bait OP instead to get people to talk. Since it's hard to just generally talk about video games and baiting is the best way to get replies, it just encouraged all the sensationalized news posting that /v/ has become.

>> No.5981516

>>5974787
The 7th gen also had some odd titles here and there, but like you said they were more common the previous generation. Games like blue dragon, Infinite undiscovery, Enchanted arms, 3d dot heroes, morphx, cryostasis, disaster day of crisis, and others that I can't remember now felt like holdovers from 6th gen that couldn't be released in time, and like various 6th games, you won't see anything like them in the future. Plus licensed tie ins died with the 7th gen, they're all mobile games now and they're the epitome of soulless, cynical capitalism.

>> No.5981528

>>5981354
/v2k/
>gc, wii and wiiu
>ps2 and ps3
>xbox and x360
>gba, ds and 3ds
>psp and vita
would be a solid board
the only thing would be if /v2k/ would want to add switch/ps4/xbone after the new consoles launch, but that's something they could decide as a community

>> No.5981670

>>5981528
PS4 and bone would be cancer, plus most of their games are already on last gen consoles. We're trying to escape muh wokeness and muh eceleb drama.

>> No.5981681

>>5974786
Because of your feelings.

>> No.5981735

>>5981681
my feelers

>> No.5981746

ITT: New arrivals to /vr/ acclimate to what an asinine mess this board is.

>> No.5981885

>>5974429
Zoomers literally think Minecraft is retro now

>> No.5982228

>>5981210
What is this

>> No.5982239

>>5981885
And they'd be right. Minecraft is very retro.

>> No.5982895

>>5981284
>Just ban all mobile IP ranges and all HTTP requests with a mobile browser header
tough luck, now that hiro made a design (p.4chan.org) specifically tailored towards the mobile audience.

>> No.5982906

>>5982239
>Minecraft is very retro.
the absolute state of /vr/

>> No.5982917

>>5982895
I am well aware, but that would be the only solution to know to fix /v/. Since /v/ can't really be fixed without gookmoot losing money, I think it makes sense to keep it as a containment board and make something like /v2k/. But /v2k/ shouldn't be made for another 5 years or so because it could encompass a longer period of time then if it was made right now, and everyone should just suck it up until its actually time.

>> No.5983029

>>5982906
Not "retro" according to this board's rules, it's literally retro.

>> No.5983035

>>5983029
>>5983029
it's literally not retro
it's a blocky sandbox from 2010

>> No.5983049

>>5983035
It's aesthetic is a prime example of the definition of retro. It's literally what a retro game is.

>> No.5983235

>>5983049
it's literally not a retro game dumb nigger

>> No.5983251

>>5983235
By definition it literally is, you uneducated moron. Learn what the words you're using mean before you open your stupid mouth.

>> No.5983283

>>5983251
'touche dimwit

>> No.5983298

>>5983251
It's a blocky game with sharp pixel graphics. I can't think of any game that was so blatantly blocky from before 2000. The textures are more low effort than retro. Everything else about the current game is really not retro.

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>>5983298
Lol you're impossible

>> No.5983370

>>5979065
What experience in games/technology if any do you have? What console to start with will largely depend on if you can work with older sometimes finicky consoles and since games are usually console specific you would need a good game for your skill level. Plus consoles tend to be better at some genres over others so if you have gaming experience you can be directed to a console with the sort of games your into.

>> No.5983371

>>5983298
I can totally see Minecraft being a 90s pc release. It’s retro af in its presentation and vibes. Celeste also. But it isn’t actually retro in the sense of what this board is about.

6th gen should definitely be allowed as of 2020

>> No.5983947

>>5983371
>6th gen should definitely be allowed as of 2020
That's going too far

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>>5983947
I'd prefer we went to age of the game being the factor, but totally fine with letting 6th gen in.

>> No.5984449

>>5984054
A lot of people think that’s going to be a big issue, since yearly sports titles still were being released until 2014 like on the ps2, but realistically no one on 4chan is going to unironically start up a thread on it. All the games we love and associate with 6th gen came out 2000-2007. 2007 might even be a stretch. Most of my 6th gen games are 2002-2005 games.

Who here would be that offended by a Jurassic Park operation genesis thread?

>> No.5984492

>>5974429
You have to provide a valid definition of "retro gaming", then.

>> No.5984498

>>5974429
Retro is anything that doesn't feel like a modern game. I do agree that 6th gen very much resembles modern gen.

>> No.5984505

>>5984449
Well yeah that's why I think age of game being the factor would be better than what system it's on.

>>5984498
Please learn to use a dictionary.

>> No.5984512

>>5974939
Stop being reasonable on my sekrit klub REEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.5984524

>>5984505
Learn what context is, retard.
This board is called "Retro Games", and yet the vast majority of games discussed here are not "retro" going by the dictionary.

>> No.5984526

>>5984505
No one is going to unironically start a fifa 14’ thread.

Dreamcast homebrews aren’t retro but people wouldn’t bat an eye to them here. Same thing about psp and Wii U threads here. Doesn’t bother anyone.

>> No.5984531

>>5984526
>Dreamcast homebrews aren’t retro
yes they are
if they are homebrew on DC
>>5984512
it's not reasonable to think shit becomes retro
retro games were released in a certain time period or for things in a period of time
>>5984498
>Retro is anything that doesn't feel like a modern game.
hard no
>>5984492
>You have to provide a valid definition of "retro gaming", then.
learn to read
>>5984449
>Who here would be that offended by a Jurassic Park operation genesis thread?
post it to /v/
>>5984054
>I'd prefer we went to age of the game being the factor,
it's the system
>>5983371
>I can totally see Minecraft being a 90s pc release. It’s retro af in its presentation and vibes. Celeste also
then you're blinded by nostalgia
>>5983347
>Lol you're impossible

>> No.5984534

>>5984531
A game thought of and created in 2019 formatted to run on a Dreamcast is not retro you are delusional

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>>5984531
I am right though, Minecraft's aesthetic is definitively retro.

>>5984534
It would depend on the design of the game in question, but it would more than likely be retro. Graphically it deffinitely would be at this point. If you think otherwise, it's time to learn the actual deffinitions of words before you use them.

>> No.5984565

>>5984531
>hard no
How so? It is the one that makes the most sense. From the PS2 generation and on, there has been a standarization in how videogames play. The fifth generation introduced 3D games and everything developers learned with the N64, Saturn and PlayStation they have applied to the sixth generation.

A game made for the Dreamcast, today, can no longer be considered retro. It is way too influenced by everything that came later. Even purposely making a shitty game to make it seem "retro" wouldn't make it retro.

>> No.5984575

>>5984565
Because it's not at all what the word actually means.

>> No.5984578

>>5984575
This is the Retro Game board. The definition of "retro" I'm employing is the one that most closely reflects what this board is about: old ass games, and why sixth gen isn't part of it.

>> No.5984589

>>5984560
Therefore, Minecraft is retro

>> No.5984591

>>5984578
You're still wrong even then.

>>5984589
Precisely.

>> No.5984601

>>5984591
Explain why, because "lol you are wrong" isn't an argument.

>> No.5984606

>>5984601>>5984589
>minecraft is retro
the absolute state of zoomers

>> No.5984608

>>5984606
I never said Minecraft is retro. Try again.

>> No.5984613

So we got age of the game/system and gameplay mechanics/game design to make a game retro.

But what about using technological restrictions as a guiding line to define what is retro and what not?
If yes, then no matter how much of a retro feel a modern game has, if it is not possible on retro hardware, then it could not qualify as retro.

There is a minecraft homebrew port for the dreamcast. Is that retro?

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>>5984601
Okay. Since we're talking about the board rules not the meaning of the word I will.
The rules for what fits don't describe anything about how a game looks, plays, what influenced it or what video output they have. All the rules lay out and care about is what system a game is on.

Pier Solar has later influences but can be played on Genesis so it fits the board rules. Dreamcast, being one of the "retro" systems follows the same rules as everything else. Thus any game made for it would be "retro" according to this board's rules. Even if someone made a Dreamcast clone of Fortnight or Flappy Bird, those would be "retro" in the sense that they would be within the rules here.

>> No.5984620

>>5984606
It's aesthetic is unquestionably retro.

>>5984613
>So we got age of the game/system
Yes
>and gameplay mechanics/game design to make a game retro.
No.
>There is a minecraft homebrew port for the dreamcast. Is that retro?
Without question, yes.

>> No.5984621

>>5984618
Exactly. Which is why I argue that the rules are retarded. A game being made for an older (pre-6th gen, Dreamcast being the exception) console does not make it "retro". It makes no sense whatsoever. On the other hand, it makes this arbitrary division between what's "retro" and what isn't absurd.

>> No.5984627

>>5984621
I agree, the rules here are super dumb but they are what they are. New games for old systems being within the rules is one of the reasons I think going by game age would be far better.

>> No.5984740

>>5984531
>ha! i replied to everyone's post! that makes me correct!

>> No.5984758

>>5984740
you're the winner
no one is as dumb as you

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>>5974429
Lazyness and mediocrity has replaced talent. Tradition is a lost art form nobody respects.

>> No.5984778

>>5974558
This is a very good observation and I'm surprised nobody pointed it out.
Marketing warps our perception of everything, including games. Hell, over-the-top commercials were a thing even back during the SNES days.
Games in general have more exposure nowadays because of the internet being more widespread, making it easier to inflate and overhype them.
When you forget about commercials, trailers, reviews, etc., the actual games nowadays do feel dated.
A PS2 game (especially early-mid 6th gen era) played on the original hardware on a CRT looks and feels nothing like a contemporary video game.
Hell, considering /vr/'s CRT fetishism, 6th gen in particular would be fitting, since they were the last console generation where CRTs were the norm.

>> No.5984787

>>5984758
Says the one calIing games "retro" because of the platform they run on.

>> No.5984801

>>5984787
says the seething faggot trying to cope with the fact his esteemed games aren't retro

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>>5984621
The rules are fine. This is just a bunch of new fags banging on the clubhouse doors crying because they want mom to say it's their turn. This isn't a democracy. Go make your own board somewhere else.

Jesus Christ, why can't you just let people have their own thing.

>> No.5984929

>>5984621
When will you realize that the rules won't change and all you're doing is wasting your time while providing oldfags with entertainment watching you constantly complain?

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curse you ZOOMERS

>> No.5985608

>>5984801
>cope
I doubt that word means what you think it means, kid.

>> No.5985669

>>5985608
stay seething

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>thinking gookmoot will raise the cutoff year
NEVER EVER, perma-seething underage niggers.

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>>5985692

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"Not retro because it didn't happen during my childhood" is not an excuse. As time passes your opinion becomes the minority.

>> No.5985838

>>5985830
opinions=/=rules

>> No.5985842

>>5975073
>2037 /vr/
>you, born 2000
>make post praising BOps
>Pluto in Capricorn young adult responds "kys zoomer"

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>>5981516
>Blue Dragon is different

>> No.5986189

>>5974939
I agree. Defining "retro" as "games that run on systems released before my arbitrary date" is a bad definition, as it includes homebrew titles that, as others ITT pointed out, are inevitably influenced by contemporary culture, therefore not making them truly "retro" in spirit: they don't actually reflect the timeframe they pretend to represent. It's no different than indie PC games which are deliberately made to look "retro" even though, while they may look like it, they feel not retro at all.
Just take Undertale for example: from a purely technical perspective, it could very well run on 4th, or even 3th gen console. Were it a homebrew NES title, it would be considered "retro" according to the previous definition, but it doesn't feel like it at all: shit like lesbian relationships and other inevitable recent cultural influences are simply not present in actual retro games.
Regardless of what zoomers posing as gen X oldfags believe, and regardless of what the rules say, the only definition of "retro games" that truly makes sense is much simpler, and more commonly accepted in most communities: old games, period.
To me, 6th gen definitely does feel retro and I'm all for including it, if not now, in the near future. I'd argue that the 6th generation wasn't much different than the 5th: it felt more like a natural evolution of the latter, without any unexpected development. You still had almost exclusively offline gaming, "insert-disc-and-play" ease, and no YouTube/Twitch faggotry. The 6th generation has a lot more in common with the 5th than most people would like to admit, just like the 5th has more in common with the 6th than kt has with the 4th. It was with the 7th generation that things really did change. But gen 6 mostly "stayed on track". It felt more like a gen 5 with better graphics rather than an entirely different thing just like I see gen 4 with respect to gen 3.
So yes, I believe gen 6 should be considered retro, if not now, in a few years at most.

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>>5974979
>Compilations and remakes are allowed.
Yet every thread I created about Medarot/Medabots GBA games was deleted.

>> No.5986405

>>5986189
>therefore not making them truly "retro" in spirit

This is the problem though. Those games literally are retro. That's what a "retro game" is by definition. But this board is misnamed because the vast majority of the games what we talk about aren't retro, they're old.

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So now that sixth gen is officially retro on /vr/, let's post and talk about our favorite games from that era.

>> No.5986617

>>5986405
No they are not. They have over 20 years more of potential influences and they are made in a widely different setting with widely different goals. They do not represent those actual time periods they claim to represent, at all, they are parroting them. They are literally no different than current indie PC games which try way too hard to be retro with pixel art. The only distinction you are making is the system they run on, which is, may I say, a fairly poor distinction.
The only way for a game to truly represent a certain era is for it to actually be released during that era. No game released nowadays can recreate that, no matter the hardware it runs on.
By accepting these as "retro games" you are effectively polluting actual retro games with alien material, which is what people complaining about gen 6 being considered "retro" do.
Like it or not, gen 6 represents a particular past age, early 2000s, which no other gen does. They may not be a product of your beloved 80s and 90s, but they are still an authentic cultural representation of a past era, which modern homebrew games simply aren't.

>> No.5986685

>>5986339
Because eventually you (and I mean YOU) start posting GBA-remakes/ports of WSC-games, which are against the rules.
>>5483545
>>5568173

Just because games are remakes or ports doesn't make them eligible for /vr/ by default.

>> No.5986707

Will /vr/ always abide by the 99 rule or will it expand after ps5 lands?

>> No.5986731

>>5986585(giganticfaggot)
No

>> No.5986737

Jannies are working overtime it seems. Imagine spending your Saturday deleting posts from a video game imageboard.

>> No.5986745

If it's not arcade action it's not retro, even 80s rpg shit is proto-modern.

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>>5986189
>from a purely technical perspective, it could very well run on 4th, or even 3th gen console

>> No.5986776

>>5974752
Based

>> No.5986782

>>5974752
nope.

>> No.5986806

>>5986737
Jannies delete every pro-6th gen thread but left this one up as a sick joke

>> No.5986835

>>5986806
better have the sixers spam just in one thread than open 20 new threads per day.

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>>5986835

>> No.5986918

>>5986835
based. we also need containment generals for jarpigs and e-celeb faggotry.

>> No.5986926

Would classic car enthusiast forums allow for discussion of somebody's 2001 Honda Civic?

>> No.5986934

>>5974916
>>5974904
>>5974924
Zoom zoom like minecraft, minecraft made in 09, minecraft old and retro! We like minecraft we like minecraft!
>>5986926
Change 01 civic with 90s jdm as a whole and I would say no because 90s jdm fags are often zoomers or dudebros who grew up with fast and furious. This is the same thing with argument with 6th gen games. 6th gen and pre-6th gen gamers are just two very different demographics.

>> No.5986948

>>5986806
It's not a pro-6th gen thread though.

>> No.5986949

>>5974429

Maybe we should have retro tiers. /vr/ being anything from 2000 backwards and /vr2/ anything 15-20 years old. Simply add a new tier every 20 years or so.

>> No.5986962

>>5986949
>anything 15-20 years old. Simply add a new tier every 20 years or so.
/vr/ should really work like that. Then we'd have fresh content to look forward to instead of the board just stagnating.

>> No.5987054

>>5986962
go elsewhere

>> No.5987107

>>5987054
no. we'll shitpost your board constantly until we get our way. and if we don't, oh well, fuck you boomers and your shit board lmaoo

>> No.5987223

>>5987107
go fuck yourself zoomie

>> No.5987324

>>5986934
>minecraft old and retro!

Old and retro don't mean the same thing you mouthbreathing retard.

>> No.5987472

>>5986758
Not that guy, but something like Undertale could run on a SNES, easy.
NES looks like stretching it, but it doesn't sound implausibile.

>> No.5987474

>gatekeepers falseflagging by saying "minecraft is retro"
Not even zoomers are this pathetic holy shit.

>> No.5987523

>>5987472
it can't

>> No.5988661

>>5974429
True

>> No.5988668

>>5987523
Undertale could totally be made to run on a snes.

>> No.5988802

>>5988668
no it can't dumb nigger

>> No.5988816

>>5988802
Granted I haven't played it but from bits I've seen none of it looks that complex. Why couldn't the same game have been made to run on SNES hardware?

>> No.5988817

>>5988816
because of the tech it has under the hood

>> No.5988819

>>5988817
Well obviously the game as is has bloated code and is made to run on new hardware. I'm talking about the same game made for SNES hardware. What does it do that's so complex that the SNES couldn't have handled it?

>> No.5989021

>>5974429
>What determines if a game is retro or not is how the game plays and feels
This means that several retro games come out every week. BRB, making a Shovel Knight thread on /vr/.

>> No.5989480

>>5989021
Dozens of retro games are released every week. This just isn't a board for retro games.

>> No.5989495

>>5989480
it literally is
not for games made in the style of them, but actual LITERAL retro games you seething little bitch

>> No.5989939

you guys aren't actually filled with vitriol over muh word definition, right? you're just playing it up for "fun"?

>> No.5989970

>>5978629
its called retro gaming cause its current to the person playing.