New Shmup General

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New Shmup General Anonymous Thu Oct 24 21:12:38 2019 No.5970242 [Reply] [Original]

Cont'd from >>5939528 since it's on autosage

Wot ya playin?

For me, its the slowdown-heavy PS1 port of G.Darius

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 21:23:04 2019 No.5970261 Gradius V using PCSX2 in HD resolution. Looks amazing and is one of the best horizontal shmups ever made. >G.Darius Have you tried the PC version? https://www.myabandonware.com/game/g-darius-cjj

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 21:25:16 2019 No.5970270 Ikaruga. Haven't played it in a decade or more and felt like going back to try it again. Enjoying myself so far.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 23:11:31 2019 No.5970417 >>5970261 >Gradius V using PCSX2 in HD resolution. Cool, what weapons loadout do you go with, and how far can you get on one credit?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 23:40:20 2019 No.5970461 >>5970242 >For me, its the slowdown-heavy PS1 port of G.Darius Why is Taito Legends 2 not considered the definitive version of G-Darius by now? It's incredible playing that game at a blazing 60FPS!

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 00:07:10 2019 No.5970493 >>5970261 Gradius V was only fun when I cheated a first playthrough just so I could unlock the hidden flamethrower shot type, like why is that shit even locked to begin with

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 00:40:30 2019 No.5970560 >>5970493 Because it came out in an era where game length was the only thing that mattered to reviewers, so even arcade-style games were filled with tedious unlockables.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 01:09:00 2019 No.5970579 File: 214 KB, 1280x720, jojo_ripple.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5970493 The flamethower was cool, but for me, it's gotta be Ripple.

Anonymous Fri Oct 25 08:38:27 2019 No.5971006
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Playing some really fun retro shmup while listening to our friend Mark talk about game journos and youtubers making low quality gaming content.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnB-w2uF50g

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 08:45:02 2019 No.5971015 >>5971006 I can't ever get past 3 stage of dodonpachi daioujou I can almost beat daifukkatsu (not retro) but I get filtered at last section with drones circling and shooting beams and bullets

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 08:45:23 2019 No.5971016 Is there a shmup that isnt meant for mentally ill trannies?

Anonymous Fri Oct 25 08:55:41 2019 No.5971037

>>5971015
make mental notes about the difficult sections where you die often.
then save state practice those trouble parts.
then do stage 3 or whatever from start to finish, eventually it'll click.
if it's still too tough then maybe your routes are not optimal so look at a survival/1cc run of it (ignore the scoring runs since they'll do chaining and riskier maneuvers)

>>	Anonymons Fri Oct 25 10:29:26 2019 No.5971135 File: 41 KB, 450x337, parodius6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5971016 Parodius

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 11:14:04 2019 No.5971183 desu non-retro STGs are really good these days Blue Revolver, Zero Ranger, Graze Counter etc.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 11:34:14 2019 No.5971220 File: 81 KB, 640x626, 8181_front.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any good? I've enjoyed the other PS1 shmups like G-Darius, Einhander, R-Type Delta (and R-Types) and Gradius Gaiden.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 11:38:28 2019 No.5971226 >>5971016 Dilate

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 12:13:02 2019 No.5971295 File: 99 KB, 624x492, try again.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >14.4 million >new PB >die at last boss with 2 bombs in stock If it's not a clear it doesn't count imo.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 12:26:49 2019 No.5971314 >>5971295 14.8mill actually*

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 12:37:59 2019 No.5971329 >>5971220 Average imo graphics are quite bad. Thunder Force VI on PS2 is better. TF 3 and 4 are still king.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 12:52:57 2019 No.5971354 >>5971220 Yeah, it's better than all those games you listed besides Gradius Gaiden, although you should play it on Saturn where it's a tad harder and still retains all the graphical effects that had to be cut in order to run on the PSX.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 15:59:51 2019 No.5971596 Should I still use Shmupmameui_v42 which is based on an ancient version of MAME but has a few edits to run a few games a bit more accurately, or is regular MAME finally settled on?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 16:11:57 2019 No.5971613 >>5970242 Einhänder

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 16:58:35 2019 No.5971687 >>5971596 install groovymame

>>	Anonymons Fri Oct 25 17:14:38 2019 No.5971704 >>5971613 square should stick to overcomplicated RPGs

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 22:48:04 2019 No.5972178 File: 43 KB, 352x312, tomoko_meh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5971704 >JRPGs >overcomplicated

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 23:10:06 2019 No.5972204 >>5971613 Awesome game, I need to come back to it sometime.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 23:12:19 2019 No.5972208 File: 61 KB, 1000x800, thumb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5971295 >>5971314 >If it's not a clear it doesn't count imo. I understand the disappointment, but it still counts. Congrats anon, that's a nice score.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 05:10:19 2019 No.5972604 File: 8 KB, 250x202, Apocalypse.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5971220 If you like run and guns this game is great. Very arcade-shump like.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 07:12:14 2019 No.5972684 Does tate change the resolution of a game?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 08:23:34 2019 No.5972739 >>5972684 tate rotates the screen usually to eliminate black bars on the sides of shmups and provide optimal screen space for vertical shmups. Only useful if you can physically flip your monitor / tv onto its side.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 11:18:01 2019 No.5972934 >>5972684 Tate means 縦.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 11:21:46 2019 No.5972939 >>5972604 Run and guns aren't shmups, they are a sub genre of platformers

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 11:31:15 2019 No.5972956 File: 144 KB, 1000x953, pquq9vrwc8s31.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5972208 Contra 3 had nice controls scheme

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 11:43:32 2019 No.5972976 File: 54 KB, 480x360, turtle.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5972956 Yeah, Contra 3 was a nice game all around.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:14:28 2019 No.5973005 >>5972976 aside from being too easy, those top-down stages, and being the start of "boss rush-y" contra in lieu of strong level designs

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:33:24 2019 No.5973028 >>5973005 Valid complaints. I don't mind boss rush and I'm ok with easier games sometimes. I could do without the top-down stages though. I don't hate them, but after you've done them a couple times they aren't that interesting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:46:55 2019 No.5973043 >>5972939 No they arent, they are a sub genre of shmups that sometimes have platformer elements. Since the beginning there were top down run n guns with 0 platforming

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 27 00:17:38 2019 No.5974079 File: 4 KB, 350x240, image.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone like Compile here? Got a 1cc in this tonight.

Anonymous Sun Oct 27 04:53:58 2019 No.5974335

>>5974079
Try destroying the weapon carrier in the prologue without hitting anything and using only your sub weapon. Its a guaranteed Lander. I think you can do it for 7 times. Of course the real problem is dodging those enemies without shooting them.
Just for fun, the FC ship shoots with near zero delay if you max out its Red Lander bonus.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 27 15:25:14 2019 No.5975201 Is mega man a shmup-former?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 27 16:28:57 2019 No.5975341 Anyone else experience loads of frame drops with Shienryu in mednafen? No other game I've tried with that emulator has this issue and it's not even that intense of a game graphically.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 27 17:27:34 2019 No.5975429 Wait, did sunsoft make the original fantasyzone?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 27 17:48:15 2019 No.5975470 >>5975429 Nah, just the console versions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 28 00:23:44 2019 No.5976130 >>5971006 His eyes look manic

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 28 00:52:47 2019 No.5976165 WIGGLE SPRITE DODGE DOTS! WIGGLE SPRITE DODGE DOTS!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 28 00:54:47 2019 No.5976168 >>5976165 you forgot "shoot"

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 28 01:22:12 2019 No.5976198 File: 17 KB, 320x224, image.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how tf do you deal damage to this boss?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 28 01:32:33 2019 No.5976210 File: 103 KB, 1200x1200, Chip-Chipperson.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Shmup thread more like schmuck thread. CCCCCCCCCCCCCRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 28 02:13:04 2019 No.5976258 File: 17 KB, 480x360, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the best 16-bit home shmup?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 28 15:39:08 2019 No.5977143 File: 19 KB, 320x224, image.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >experience system >storyfaggotry >moeshit is this when shumps died

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 28 15:53:34 2019 No.5977160 >>5976165 You have to dodge enemies sometimes too, dumbass.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 28 23:11:55 2019 No.5977929 only have 3 shmups einhander, strikers 1945, darius gaiden im thinking about getting one of the r-types for the snes, is super r-type any good, or is shelling out the money for r-type 3 worth it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 28 23:55:38 2019 No.5977998 >>5977929 Super R-Type sucks, avoid it. R-Type III is good, although the first stage drags on too long. If you want a top tier SNES shmup though, you should get Biometal.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 29 00:03:22 2019 No.5978008 >>5977143 Fuck progress. I want my games to be as stale as my love life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 29 00:25:00 2019 No.5978048 >>5974079 compile games are way too fucking long

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 29 00:31:50 2019 No.5978058 File: 24 KB, 204x188, cave.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5977143 autism

Anonymous Tue Oct 29 00:52:04 2019 No.5978078

>>5970261
G.Darius PC has a few weird quirks; it's one of those games that requires the disk in order to play music, and for whatever reason is capped at 50(!) FPS. Since it was ported from the PS1, the bosses 'run' at a lower framerate than the rest of the game and it seems to have kept the signature texture wobbling. It's also locked to 640x480, but can be up-resed with DGVoodoo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 29 01:30:06 2019 No.5978141 >>5978008 Falseflagging jarpig detected.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 29 01:31:40 2019 No.5978143 >>5977143 Power Up/Down is a standard system in shooters.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 29 01:34:31 2019 No.5978146 >>5978143 Gaining XP from killing enemies is not.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 29 01:50:49 2019 No.5978154 >>5978146 Nothing wrong with it. It's another way to represent power ups.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 29 12:00:01 2019 No.5978705 >>5977998 >Biometal Eww Gradius III is the best shmup despite the slowdown but there is a patch now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 29 17:27:36 2019 No.5979246 >>5978154 Still stinks of RPG. Just use a traditional power-up system.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 29 20:28:56 2019 No.5979550 >>5978078 Interesting. How is Darius Gaiden PC version'?

Anonymous Tue Oct 29 23:35:11 2019 No.5979778
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>>5979550
I actually don't know. Apparently it's a 2D game so it won't benefit much from upscaling, and I imagine it's also one of those "CD is used for music" games. Also I believe it's possible to make G Darius, and other "CD for music" games, work without the CD by using the _inmm.dll method. This is taken by Puzzle Bobble but I imagine it would work the same for other games; what makes it hard for G Darius is that you need the physical version to use this, and it appears to be a fairly rare game.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 30 12:52:28 2019 No.5980556 >>5980513 kek based

Anonymous Wed Oct 30 14:53:52 2019 No.5980771

>>5970242
Im playing zero ranger as my first shmup. Level 2-2 is kicking my ass. I know I could just muscle through it with the ten lives I have at this point but it seems to be cheating if I dont do it in one or two tries? Idk. This is a very weird genre for me to be getting into. Any reccomendations for beginner shmups similar to ZR?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 30 15:52:01 2019 No.5980945 >>5980771 Crimzon clover world ignition on novice mode.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 31 12:39:27 2019 No.5982595 >>5980513 Redpill me on cave

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 31 13:19:06 2019 No.5982645 >>5982595 some mobile dev, dunno why they keep getting brought up here

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 31 14:06:06 2019 No.5982696 >>5982595 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbts2qTrbAg

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 31 14:09:38 2019 No.5982707 >>5980771 What weapons do you like the most in ZR

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 31 14:11:05 2019 No.5982710 What are some good shmups for beginners (SNES/Genesis/PC Engine/PSX)?

Anonymous Thu Oct 31 14:28:29 2019 No.5982727

>>5982710
Thunderforce 3/4 and Gradius Gaiden. Get a Saturn, it's got Hyper Duel. It's a great starting point, should be quite tough but reasonable and satisfying for a beginner. Plays well, looks and sounds great, has simple scoring that's easy to get into and where you can get big puntos without dedicating your life to one game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 31 14:33:56 2019 No.5982737 >>5977998 I enjoyed Super R-Type. I mean, its not great or anything but saying it sucks seems a little strong.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 31 14:35:10 2019 No.5982742 >>5982645 Yeah nah.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 31 15:51:50 2019 No.5982890 >>5982710 The "beginner shmup" is a meme. Start with a difficult one, learn it and you'll be better off than playing boring old babby shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 31 16:02:06 2019 No.5982903 >>5982890 Get a job

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 31 16:17:42 2019 No.5982937 File: 89 KB, 898x1123, 14243.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Alright I know this is /vr/ and all, but any must have Japanese import shmups like Shikhondo for a physicalfag like me?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 31 16:27:53 2019 No.5982951 >>5982903 I have one, but thanks for your concern. Do you have an actual argument though?

Anonymous Thu Oct 31 18:17:21 2019 No.5983129

>>5982951
Boring babby shit won't be boring nor easy for a beginner, and its better to 1. build a fundamental skillset and set of habits 2. understand what you are getting into because shmups offer a very specific gameplay style thats not for everybody 3. get some reward for commitment instead of hunderds of hrs of frustration then burnout. Its retarded go jump into DOJ WL or Futari before you even know what streaming is, unless you love the games, and its beyond retarded to copy high level scoring routes when you can't even survive.

Anonymous Thu Oct 31 18:29:43 2019 No.5983143

>>5982890
I disagree. For example, shoot em ups that use a weapon progression system and restart you without any pity powerups (like the original arcade version of Gradius or Darius) tend not to be good beginner games, because of how easily beginners can be caught in borderline unwinnable scenarios. Neither of those games are THAT difficult, but they're demoralizing as shit.

Anonymous Thu Oct 31 19:12:00 2019 No.5983198
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This game is hard as balls. Doesn't matter that you can take more than one hit because you're at such a disadvantage with one head that you might as well just start over anyway.
Sometimes the powerups immediately disappear off the sides of the screens when you shoot those bubble things. What kind of bullshit is that?
I'll never take rapid fire for granted again after how much my wrists hurt from mashing the button.
Also is there diagonal movement? Because the arcade machine didn't register it.

Anonymous Thu Oct 31 19:17:27 2019 No.5983212
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The first half of X-com:enforcer plays like an unrealized third person shmup. With some fairly minor changes it could be a great game. Funny thing is i don't know if anyone on the dev team realizes it.(certainly doesn't seem like it, looking at the game design choices)

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 31 20:04:07 2019 No.5983268 Is shmupmame 4.2 worth using? It's been 6 years since it was released. I'd probably have to use an older romset for it and I don't even play on high enough level to feel the 1 frame input lag.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 31 23:31:37 2019 No.5983591 >>5976168 Oh sorry. WIGGLE WIGGLE SHOOT WIGGLE SHOOT SHOOT DODGE WIGGLE WIGGLE!

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 31 23:58:25 2019 No.5983616 >>5983591 i know right, should have more interesting gameplay like moving an arrow up and down on a menu and selecting attack over and over

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 1 01:53:02 2019 No.5983703 I've started Dangun Feveron, it's fun but letting one cyborg slip never fails to be annoying when it happens.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 1 02:13:52 2019 No.5983719 File: 59 KB, 420x420, tetran_clock.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4jpELbk3YU GradiusTime

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 1 17:43:46 2019 No.5984939 ^

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 1 18:23:07 2019 No.5984996 What's the best subweapon to take in Zanac? I'm leaning towards 3, the balls that orbit your ship.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 1 20:01:49 2019 No.5985142 >>5982595 its what touhou pedos gravitate to after they got bored of 2hu shite (jaimers, banamatic, etc)

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 2 00:45:26 2019 No.5985545 how do i get into shmups anons? what are some must-play games for someone wanting to try it out?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 2 02:36:39 2019 No.5985696 File: 285 KB, 1068x561, plato-on-jrpg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5985545 Start with the Grads.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 2 03:12:31 2019 No.5985746 File: 43 KB, 300x303, imf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Playing pic related. The pce port is very very good !

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 2 04:47:28 2019 No.5985857 File: 2.20 MB, 250x336, 1572684448651.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this game is sick

Anonymous Sat Nov 2 04:54:50 2019 No.5985867
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>>5985545
Batsugun or Batsugun special ver (excellent for all skill levels, from newb to elite [start with Type B ship])
Mushihimesama [original-mode]
sengoku ace
dodonpachi
Castle shikigami 2
Darius Gaiden
Gradius Gaiden
Einhander

*** shmup-likes ***
Legend of Hero Tonma
Metal Slug 1
Mystic Warriors (JP version)
Ninja Commando
Sunset Riders

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 2 04:59:49 2019 No.5985874 File: 1.16 MB, 250x336, rf2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5985857

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 2 13:14:32 2019 No.5986508 >>5985545 pick stuff at random in mame and stick with something you enjoy playing

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 2 17:13:03 2019 No.5986972 File: 9 KB, 288x224, image.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Play Cumpile

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 3 01:47:33 2019 No.5988143 PLEASE CONTINUE

>>	Sage Sun Nov 3 07:33:35 2019 No.5988505 >>5986972 Nice bait, grabber

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 3 08:08:25 2019 No.5988560 If using savestates is QoL does it mean that getting 1cc with savestates is fine?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 3 09:13:42 2019 No.5988637 >>5988560 ? Its cheating for practice, like how youd use the konami code or warps in Gradius to skip levels but wouldn't do it in a legit run.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 3 09:21:36 2019 No.5988657 >>5988560 as long as you say you attained it with savestates or cheats then it's fine, be transparent. If you say 1cc people assume it's 1cc from start to finish, no assists or savestates.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 3 09:24:08 2019 No.5988660 File: 29 KB, 201x226, 1468332352486.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5988637 Gradius warps aren't legit?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 3 09:35:38 2019 No.5988679 >>5988660 They were put there as a debug feature and kept around to sell magazines, same as Konami code

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 3 12:03:32 2019 No.5988926 >>5985857 taito shmups are made for depressives

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 3 12:26:05 2019 No.5988968 >>5988505 >CONSOLE GAMES BAD >ARCADE GAMES GOOD imagine being this retarded

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 3 12:29:20 2019 No.5988976 >>5988968 Sounds like good tastes to me desu

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 3 12:38:46 2019 No.5988989 >>5988968 Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 3 15:01:43 2019 No.5989214 >>5988657 >be transparent Of course like everyone else on the internet

Anonymous Sun Nov 3 16:00:04 2019 No.5989305

>>5970270
I just finally beat the final stage this weekend and I'm looking to clear it now. It's a cool game but really hard to play for extended periods of time without feeling like you're going nuts. I'm a hair away from the S rank on stage 1 too and just getting the last part right for the 3 mil is also driving me a bit mad. Fun game though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 3 16:53:41 2019 No.5989390 >>5970242 >G.Darius If you google the best shmups for the PSX, this game is always among the best rated. Why tho? Everything is extremely underwhelming IMHO, and I really dislike the graphics.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 3 16:58:01 2019 No.5989392 >>5989390 It has the most soul

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 3 18:46:22 2019 No.5989562 >>5989390 there are only 3 good ps1 shmups: gradius gaiden, einhander, and neo zanac

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 4 06:55:40 2019 No.5990581 File: 3.46 MB, 200x200, 1572608298321.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] you guys ever copy a replay?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 4 08:26:03 2019 No.5990676 >>5990581 I even savestate the shit out of the games. I'm too old to replay games from the beginning to go through the parts I'm already good at.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 4 23:47:23 2019 No.5992321 File: 9 KB, 256x232, Soldier Blade (Japan)-0000.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is he saying "fuck you"?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 5 20:36:38 2019 No.5994032 >>5990581 I like to solve it myself, but like it or not eventually I ended up spoiled

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 5 23:09:41 2019 No.5994258 File: 90 KB, 316x1085, RayStorm_ending.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5988926 some people just like depressing stories in shmups

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 6 09:42:26 2019 No.5994992 >>5970242 Crimzon Clover, mostly

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 6 21:56:38 2019 No.5996140 >>5971183 play devil engine i did the music and i'm proud

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 6 22:03:46 2019 No.5996150 >>5979246 who cares, it's functionally the same

Anonymous Wed Nov 6 22:05:42 2019 No.5996153

>>5980771
don't worry about not using continues, just play through it first then if you're still worried about "cheating" you can do it then. standard practice for learning most shmups is to credit feed through it first to know what you're up against, and zeroranger is really good as just a casual run through type game even if you're not into shmups

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 6 22:06:48 2019 No.5996156 >>5982727 TF4 is not good for beginners, but it's very good

Anonymous Wed Nov 6 23:28:19 2019 No.5996297
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>>5990581
routing is what makes shmups gay and unplayable;
not creating the route initially, but sticking to the same route over and over and grinding it each playthrough, which is what these games demand and require, yikes!

Anonymous Wed Nov 6 23:35:10 2019 No.5996314

>>5996297
>creating the route
Lol, you mean copying another player's route? Because if you actually "create it", it's a process of constant refinement and experimentation, you figure things out as you play and practice, constantly discovering something new and finding more small ways to squeeze out points. And it's never really the same anyway unless you are a robot. That's assuming you are playing a game with deep scoring not move and shoot from the 80's.

Anonymous Wed Nov 6 23:43:11 2019 No.5996323

>>5996314
>it's a process of constant refinement and experimentation
it's not constant in a meaningful way because it plateaus extremely fast--you'll stick to the same route 98% of the time once you get the meat and potatoes figured out, and any 2% "refinements" you make are clogged by diminishing returns.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 6 23:45:32 2019 No.5996328 >>5996314 >constantly discovering something new when did you quit shmups? you got some beer goggles on mate, so dumb

Anonymous Wed Nov 6 23:51:49 2019 No.5996339

>>5996323
Which games have you tried figuring out your own routes in? Players often plateau because they seek out outside assistance and copy the optimized routes of others that were gotten from years of community sharing, or because they settle on a route that they think has just enough risk for them to meet their goal. Figuring out just good routes yourself will take a very long time

Anonymous Wed Nov 6 23:59:46 2019 No.5996353

>>5996339

once you figure out a good route you're supposed to stick to it and play it as you practiced, and each session is a grind session trying to execute the same thing over and over, specially in hard sections of a game, any deviation will result in highly probable death or restarting.

>but minor refinements
those are rare and trivial from a gameplay perspective, even if they impact your score or survival greatly, you're still repeating 99.9% of the same route, despite adding a "dodge to the left and swerve downwards" modification in one battle.
not significant enough to be fun or refreshing, when you are forced to abide to 99% of the route each play through.

Anonymous Thu Nov 7 00:09:52 2019 No.5996371

>>5996353
What games are you talking about? Also, why are you separating route finding from playing? You can and will do both unless you already have a route beforehand from other people's replays. Even then it takes time and playing to figure out what you can borrow and what's too hard at your current level. If you're talking about Dodonpachi that's understandable because the routing there is very strict, but there's loads of games that let you get away with mistakes and recover, even most other Cave games. Some even let you die with only a small score loss that you can make up for later in the game

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 7 00:10:56 2019 No.5996374 >>5996353 So it's like speedrunning where you have to play the games the same way every time?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 7 00:17:58 2019 No.5996382 File: 32 KB, 346x347, laughing_touhous.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >he uses autofire

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 7 08:03:07 2019 No.5996837 >>5996382 >he likes getting RSI

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 7 09:03:02 2019 No.5996928 >>5982595 >/vr/ babby wants some nerd creed >tries dodonpachi game >gets filtered >/vr/ babby claims cave games are garbage and digs up obscure shmups with less than 10 bullets on screen at any time to defend his said nerd creed

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 7 09:27:35 2019 No.5996969 >>5982595 It's the prime target for butthurt Treasurefags after being laughed at for claiming Ikaruga is the best shmup of all time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 7 11:32:49 2019 No.5997198 >>5996382 >mashing buttons is part of the fun >best games in the genre don't have build-in autofire yeah, i'm thinking your clueless about shmups

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 7 11:35:51 2019 No.5997208 >>5980513 you have no score and no clear of any title from those non-cave companies, so stop pretending you fag

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 7 12:11:04 2019 No.5997262 >>5997208 nice projection cuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 7 15:15:35 2019 No.5997519 >>5996140 if youre really the composer, you did a great job dude. hyakutaro would be proud.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 7 18:44:15 2019 No.5997885 Anyone play this game called XADLAK PLUS? It's a Sharp game that got an updated Windows release. Never played anything by this circle, but all the games are 300 yen. https://www.dlsite.com/eng/work/=/product_id/RE073385.html

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 7 18:45:51 2019 No.5997889 I am playing Space Invaders Extreme does it count and do you like that game

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 7 19:18:38 2019 No.5997964 File: 803 KB, 1024x1449, ESP-Ra-De_2019_05-08-19_001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ESP Ra.De is underrated as fuck, the M2 release is going to fix some scoring stuff and hopefully it'll get the attention it deserves.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 7 20:08:08 2019 No.5998046 >>5997964 >the M2 release is going to fix some scoring stuff Source? If they removed the shitty milking the game would be way better that's for sure

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 7 20:09:49 2019 No.5998050 >>5998046 Milking in esprade is fine. Scoring would be too easy without it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 7 22:59:01 2019 No.5998371 >>5998046 Just google it. The director is back and they said they're changing the boss milking. Also adding a fourth playable character.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 8 02:41:05 2019 No.5998742 Anyone know where I can find a working copy of Slordax for DOS? The only downloads I've been able to find dont seem to work in dosbox.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 8 14:22:10 2019 No.5999587 >>5970242 >slowdown-heavy Is it that slow? I never played arcade version because it's too sluggish on mame

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 8 14:29:00 2019 No.5999595 in some games mashing button is fun

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