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5963837 No.5963837 [Reply] [Original]

Bad / Mediocre Games with SOUL

>> No.5963838

Kirby 64 was good though.

>> No.5963840

There's no such thing as a bad Kirby game.

>> No.5963842

the Kirbycucks will be here any minute now sorry OP

>> No.5963845

>>5963842
Why are you being like that?

>> No.5963847
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dk64

>> No.5963848

Back in my day Kirby games were for girls, or faggots.

>> No.5963851

>>5963847
>this game has soul because of a soda tie-in

>> No.5963852

>>5963848
Guess that explains Op

>> No.5963912

>>5963837
Kirby 64 was just so fucking slow.

>> No.5963993
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>>5963837
The marketing for this game was unironically the most SOULful part. Too bad most of its website was never archived and is lost forever. (RIP Dancing Kirby emails)

>> No.5963994

>>5963848
"back in your day" you mean 2010?

>> No.5964009
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>>5963837
Games where you collect hidden gems are peak soul

>> No.5964023
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>>5964009
This game is full of soul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJr4O2BWstY

>> No.5964081

>>5964023
Charles Deenen is underrated
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vml4Ahk6uB0

>> No.5964095

FACT: all kirby games suck, except the golf one and Air Ride.

I have played all of them. They all are bland as fuck. The only reason to play kirby games is for the music and charm of the character's designs, gameplay wise they suck.

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>>5963837
Kirby's Dreamland 3 is this foe me. It's absolutely gorgeous but I dont really like the gameplay.

>> No.5964249

>>5964206
You got it. It was just made to exploit Super Star's legacy, and because HAL is generally still a bunch of lazy shits with little creativity.

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>>5964206
yea that game was a soulful borefest .

at least kirby 64 lets you mix powers

>> No.5964725

>>5964249
Fuck super star its mini games and short adhd levels for babbies.

>> No.5964728

>>5963837
Definitely a step back from Super Star in terms of visuals and gameplay. I got it on release and was pretty disappointed with it overall.

>> No.5964732
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>>5963837

>> No.5964735

>>5964725
>and short adhd levels for babbies.
Yet Great Cave Offense is one longest continuous levels separated into mulitple paths with hidden secrets almost like a Metroid game. It's almost like you're complaining about a game that you know nothing about.

>> No.5964737

>>5963848
>back in anons day girls were into vore

>> No.5964905

The power mixing mechanic is still awesome

>> No.5965467

>>5963837
Getting ready for hate here...
Gauntlet Legends/Dark Legacy

>> No.5965840

>>5964732
>Pictures you can hear

>> No.5965851

>>5964095
>all kirby games suck
thats kind of the point, newfag

>> No.5965949

>>5964095
I only played Superstar, but I expected to get bored with it and ended up loving the actual gameplay, all the different movesets depending on what powerup you get, etc.
It was very easy but the arena mode was actually a neat challenge (actually had to resort to cheesing with plasma tbdesu)

>> No.5965976

>>5964905
It would be far more awesome if not for the goddamn walls that can only be broken with a specific mix of powers.

>> No.5966031

The Gex series

>> No.5966036

>>5964905
>they bring it back in Squeak Squad
>it's fucking useless and nearly impossible to actually combine abilities outside of specific cases
why

>> No.5966056
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I don't care what anyone says, this thing was kino. Also that hexagonal eye thing. Some of the best bosses in kirby period

>> No.5967121

>>5966031
Always enjoyed Gex
Not groundbreaking, but consistently fun

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>>5963837
A majority of n64 titles recieved poor reviews and are constantly called mediocre. I personally love "mediocre" because they usually have redeeming qualities. Yoshi Story and Bomberman Hero come to mind. I love games were you collect fruits, gems and find hidden bonus secrets.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Fv-2XIhmxPE

>> No.5967260

>>5963848
Better get your skirt out of the closet then nancy

>> No.5967261

>>5967232
people love both those games you fucking idiot

>> No.5967273

>>5967261
yoshi story is objectively bad
bomberman hero is mediocre, especially compared to bomberman 64

>> No.5967287

Electrobrain's Vortex for snes

>> No.5967524

>>5965851
underrated

>> No.5967531

>>5967273
>yoshi story is objectively bad
It's an OK game. Would probably be held in higher regard as a 5th gen 2D game if it wasn't a sequel to Yoshi's Island, which it couldn't live up to.

>> No.5967623

>>5963845
not hugged enough

>> No.5967710

>>5967273
>>5967531
I like the music and the visuals. Levels aren't great but they're kind of fun if you turn your brain off

>> No.5967894

>>5967710
how do i turn my brain off?

>> No.5967916

>>5963837
Back in the day I guess I kinda enjoyed Kirby 64, but going back to it as an adult, I have a greater appreciation for the slight use of that New Age feel that they snuck into it.

>> No.5968041

>>5964905
I much preferred how powerups had actual move sets in Super Star. Also it was more visually appealing how Kirby took on a costume of the enemy he swallowed. Power combination was a let down in terms of moveset and look of Kirby.
Also sucked it was two player, had fun exploring great cave offense and milky way wishes with a friend back then

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Plok

>> No.5968152

>>5963840
you clearly stopped playing Kirby games about 15 years ago

>> No.5968185

>>5967710
yea, sounds like u agree it;s mediocre with soul

>> No.5968258

>>5967916
>slight use of that New Age feel
Haven’t played it in years, could you explain anon?

>> No.5968627

>>5963837
Is this as boring as Kirby's Dreamland 3? I heard it is by the same director so I'm wary

>> No.5968648

>>5968258
>crystals
>checkerboards
>surreal naturalism
>ominous, but not explicitly threatening environments
Yep, I'm thinking it has just a touch of that New Age aesthetic.

>> No.5968758

>>5968627
It's a much better game than KDL3 and powers are actually useful, but for a Kirby game it winds up as just "Pretty all right". It's stupidly short so you could knock it out pretty fast if you wanted to give it a shot, the only tricky part are the collectibles that require a specific ability combination for. It's worth playing just for the ability combination mechanic being pretty fun.

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>>5963837
>Vampires don't have reflections
>They can bite you and turn you into a vampire
>They crawl on walls and act creepy

Castlevania 64 had SOUL, I'd even say it was decent considering some of the intuitive level design but then I remember the camera and the pain in the ass hedge maze

>> No.5968764

>>5963847
love that ad

>> No.5969075

>spend time and effort designing all the different powerups and their synergies
>never make use of them in any meaningful and leave this great mechanic unexploited

It's like they didn't understand the core mechanics of the game.

Once you've seen all the different synergies, there is no reason to not grab the fireball synergy and blast through the level holding left + B

Let's face it, kirby games are aimed at children.
K64 had great music though.

>> No.5969168

>>5967287
I usually don't comment on a game's framerate but Vortex is one of the only games where I think it's the most important reason why the game sucks. No matter how fast you're trying to be, you can NEVER be fast enough to change forms in time when you try to beat the first boss. They tried so hard with the music, the transformations and the whole "DUUDE IT'S 3D ON THE SNEEEESSS!" schtick but the low dipping framerate makes it close to unplayable. Seriously, I don't think it was more than 5 FPS at any time. Even Perfect Dark or Banjo-Tooie had a better performance and yes those are on a next gen console but that's all the more reason why they should've waited with games like Vortex until 3D became more stable on consoles.

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>>5963993
>>5969075
They saved all the soulful fan drawings kids sent in.
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nk4j/gallery/gallery.html

>> No.5969201

>>5963840
Star Allies wasn't bad, but it wasn't as good as it should have been.

>> No.5969224

>>5968152
This, sadly. Just lock yourself in a time capsule after Squeak Squad because it only gets worse from there

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>>5969193
CUTE

>> No.5969858

>>5969193
Looks like shit

>> No.5970234

>>5968152
>>5969201
I actually felt Triple Deluxe was the best Kirby game since Super Star. If you feel the newer games just don't hold the same magic as the retro era games, fine. But still, that just means they're not as good in the end, but that doesn't translate to 'bad'. I've played every Kirby game except for that Wii U one, and never once have I gone, "I don't like this."

>> No.5970251

>>5969075
>Let's face it, kirby games are aimed at children.
No shit. The entire reason this game used the D-pad was because small children had a harder time reaching the analog. Sakurai SAID this. It's also the reason Air Ride uses such a simple control scheme. But, contrary to what the average gatekeeping turbonerd would have you believe, "easy" or "simple" does not mean "bad." Nor does it confer a lack of one's appreciation for harder games, either.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw6eytT4TsY&t=40s

>> No.5970293

>>5970234
Triple Deluxe was pretty decent and a solid game but god damn, Robobot was incredible and dethroned Super Star as my favorite Kirby despite having tons of nostalgia for it. Star Allies was a letdown like that other anon noted though.

To keep this post /vr/ related, I'll also note that Kirby used to be more hit and miss, with the Sakurai directed games (Which is the direction spirit they've kept in recent times) being way better than the other offerings. The spinoffs have always somehow been consistently good however.

>> No.5971193

>>5963847
It’s like he’s starting directly into my soul. “Buy Dr. Pepper. Do it.” Lord, its unsettling.

>> No.5971313

>>5970251
>"easy" or "simple" does not mean "bad."

I disagree: "Easy" does means bad. "Simple" doesn't.

See, a game that it's easy, it's easy because only 2 reasons: It was made easy on purpose (games aimed at children for example) or because the developers didn't fully exploited the core mechanics of the game, either because they didn't understood their own creation, or simply because they didn't care (bad developers)

Either way, an easy game is a game that doesn't reach a high level of execution on it's gameplay nor does shows a good understanding of the mechanics, and that makes it bad. A bad game can have awesome music, awesome art, awesome presentation, but if the gameplay is bland, the game is bad.

Now, a simple game can be a game like SSB Melee which it's an easy to play game but the core gameplay can get really deep when a competent player grabs the controller. TF2 also comes to mind.

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>>5963837
Everything Kirby is in is SOULful.