/CRT/ thread - Hoarder edition

[Anonymous No.5960031]

Previous thread: >>5933613
>Try to keep things /vr/ related: Focus should be on 5th Gen (+Dreamcast) games on back. Slight off topic is fine so long as it's related to CRTs, such as later 16:9 models, HD models, etc. Systems with backwards compatibility are also safe territory, as are re-releases on newer hardware. PC CRTs are also welcome and appreciated.
>Produce OC! Bust out your camera and take photos of your CRTs displaying all sorts of games, featuring all sorts of tubes, using all sorts of signals. Getting good shots can be hard, but if you take enough, at least a few will turn out alright. Tips'n'Tricks™ coming soon.
>Try and give as much information as possible when asking for info on a specific set, or troubleshooting an issue to expedite and help you may receive. As always, Google is your friend and we are your friends with benefits. Older archived threads aren't a bad place to look either; Seriously, there's literally 6 years of backlog at this point.
>Share appreciation for other's choice of technology and personal philosophy of gaming. Always remember to show courtesy in your discussion and moderate yourselves first.

Limited discussion of video processing and scaling devices is alright, but remember to keep the focus on CRTs and CRT accessories.

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[Anonymous No.5960041]

why cant I find these in my area anymore

[Anonymous No.5960043]

Never fall for the scart meme!

[Anonymous No.5960046]

>>5960041
Because I bought (or was given) them all six years ago MUAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.5960059]

Damn it feels good to play as the devs intended.

[Anonymous No.5960083]

>>5960041
hoarders

[Anonymous No.5960098]

>>5960041
>>5960083
Death to tubes

[Anonymous No.5960109]

don't fall for the PVMeme, instead get comfy 25" slot mask tv or 14" trinnie

[Anonymous No.5960206]

>>5960109
I approve of this message
t. 28-inch slotmask

[Anonymous No.5960221]

I got a 100hz CRT TV boys,picking it up tomorrow.

Did I fuck up? I've heard from a friend that 100hz CRT's can give you input lag, is that true?

It's a Loewe btw.

[Anonymous No.5960256]

>>5960221
It will have input lag but usually not a huge amount. It might not properly handle 240p/288p sources. The 100Hz will make motion less clear for 50/60FPS games. On the plus side it won't have the 15kHz whine and they're often better build quality.

[Anonymous No.5960383]

>>5960221
>>5960256
100Hz sets will display 240p properly. Maybe not the late widescreen ones, but most will. 100Hz sets, especially Sonys, are higher quality since they were more desired back then due to no flicker nor whine.

[Anonymous No.5960516]

>>5960221
Yea theres gonna be input lag, but if you mainly wanna play 6th gen plus it's not the end of the world.

I wanna do this to whoever autist is complaining about HDCRTs in this thread. If you know WHY they're not meant for 240p signals then go ahead, enjoy yourself.

[Anonymous No.5960518]

>>5960041
hoarders (me)

buy my PC CRTs that I put on craigslist anon

[Anonymous No.5960521]

What is the ultimate crt?

[Anonymous No.5960524]

>>5960521
KV-1210U

[Anonymous No.5960792]

>>5960521
The short answer is whatever CRT you have and love.
The long answer is GDM-FW900 and it's rebrands, which is still one hell of a PC monitor to this day.

[Anonymous No.5960806]

>You can't get CRTs for free anymo-

[Anonymous No.5960817]

>>5960383
some of the real late ones that tried to do more than just doubling the field did break 240p

[Anonymous No.5960820]

>>5960521
KV-2011CR

[Anonymous No.5960862]

>>5960806
In the third hole shithole i live homeless people destroy the fucking thing to remove the copper inside

[Anonymous No.5960894]

>>5960109

[Anonymous No.5960979]

Love a good composite picture.

[Anonymous No.5961117]

>>5960862
Niggers and other brownskins do this in Paris too. You essentially have an hour between the time it is put on the street and some subhuman stumbles upon it, even less on weekends because bands of dindus teens looking for shit to vandalize will destroy it.

[Anonymous No.5961119]

Triniton senpai clocking in

[Anonymous No.5961130]

>>5961119
>all-Sony wanker
We laughed at them then and I laugh at you now

>left speaker to the right of display
Oh Lord, my sides are working on the Sabbath

[Anonymous No.5961146]

>>5961117
how do the niggers not get killed by the supercharged caps?

[Anonymous No.5961268]

>>5961146
supercharged caps are a meme anon are you stupid

[Anonymous No.5961285]

>>5961146
Most of them are just slicing the power cord off.

I've passed up 6 decent tvs in 2 weeks because I'm tired of either finding a matching part or rigging a new line.

[Anonymous No.5961297]

>>5961285
rigging a power cord is dumb easy anon, afraid of a little solder work?

[Anonymous No.5961334]

>>5961297
If I wanted busy work I'd attend high school with you

[Anonymous No.5961353]

How do you get comfy with your CRTs? Been thinking, what's the minimum size to enjoy old games? Is 14" enough?

[Anonymous No.5961358]

>>5961353
>Is 14" enough?
Heck yea I use a 13" CRT all the time, but go to a 32" when I want it to feel kino.

[Anonymous No.5961379]

>>5961353
Also this is the infamous Goldenye game running on that same TV. It feels really blurry but more important than that any tips to beat this $%# level without Natalia killing my attempts?

[Anonymous No.5961387]

>>5961379
>any tips to beat this $%# level without Natalia killing my attempts?
Patience.

[Anonymous No.5961401]

>>5961387
Teach me senpai, how did you get good at Goldeneye. It's one of those games that I just can't wrap my head around. What controller style do you use?

[Anonymous No.5961407]

>>5961401
By playing the fuck out of it on N64, but for Wii I used a GameCube controller with 1.1 Honey as my controller style with auto-aim off and sight off screen.
I find that auto-aim and the sight tend to distract and take a bit more time, so I got good at that exact setting. Good luck, Agent Anon.

[Anonymous No.5961424]

>>5961353
You get comfy when you find one that works for what you want. I think most people would be good with a 19-24 inch PC monitor +OSSC (or similar) and a 27-34 inch consumer set. One for solo and one for 'playing with the bros'

However even as much as I like CRT. Most of the time we end up playing on my OLED or projector when in a large group.

[Anonymous No.5961559]

>>5961401
C buttons to strafe and analog stick to look. 1.2 Solitaire. Same profile as Turok,

[Anonymous No.5961579]

can anyone ID this crt?

[Anonymous No.5961584]

>>5961424
you would need a 36 or 40 inch crt to be able to entertain a group and even then, its still barely adequate

[Anonymous No.5961589]

>>5961579
Looks like a Trinitron.

[Anonymous No.5961606]

>>5960031

[Anonymous No.5961625]

>>5961589
what model though?

[Anonymous No.5961628]

>>5961625
Sony

[Anonymous No.5961631]

>>5961628
not brand, anon

[Anonymous No.5961635]

>>5961631
WWF

[Anonymous No.5961647]

>>5961635
bret screwed bret

[Anonymous No.5961648]

>>5961635
k, I am bored.

Probably a 2950 or 2730. Since Sony didn't release many 27 and 29 units that had the trinitron logo without the RGB colors, it should be easy to find out. Even easier if you can guarantee it is the 29 which it looks like it with the Sony logo covered up.

[Anonymous No.5961707]

This is how you still find deals

[Anonymous No.5961806]

Anyone recognize this model? Seller says it's 38".

[Anonymous No.5961825]

>>5961806
Those style Mitsubishi's are quality tubes with s-vid max

[Anonymous No.5961839]

>>5961353
viewing distance
viewing distance
viewing distance

[Anonymous No.5961850]

>>5961825
Know of any model numbers I could look up? Curious if it can be RGB-modded.

[Anonymous No.5961861]

>>5961806
40707?


I have one very similar

[Anonymous No.5961869]

>>5961850
try these:

40707

40507

[Anonymous No.5961971]

>>5961861
>>5961869
Thanks, that helped. I was able to find a service manual that looks like a match, but unfortunately the datasheet for the jungle IC is kind of unhelpful and doesn't specify anything about the RGB input waveform. Might be possible, but I'll probably pass on it.

[Anonymous No.5961989]

Anyone with some decent technical knowledge...is the kHz rating of a given monitor specific to the physical tube that is inside of that monitor?
Where I'm going with this is could you take the physical CRT out of, say, a 31kHz PC monitor, hook it into the electronics assembles of something 15kHz, and actually get scan on it? If it *doesn't* work, what is the worst that can happen, damage to the electron guns or something? I really want to understand better how the frequency of the electronics relates to the physical assembly of the cathode tube itself, but haven't been able to find much info and haven't been brave enough to just *try it* and see what happens.

[Anonymous No.5961992]

>>5961606
That looks so nice

[Anonymous No.5962037]

>>5961971
if you have the space its worth it for the awesome size alone, even with composite its damn good. ill find a pic of mine

[Anonymous No.5962041]

Picked up that zenith from last thread, I'll post some pics and rgb trials as I go

[Anonymous No.5962064]

>>5962037
>>5961971

[Anonymous No.5962078]

8 pallets of unopened zeniths, the ones from schools might go up for auction soon, or get e wasted, ill update tomorrow

[Anonymous No.5962103]

>>5962064
Looks nice, anon. If I had a bigger place I might grab it, but there are a couple of other sets on the local Craigslist that I've got my eye on as well, so hopefully someone else can give it a good home.

[Anonymous No.5962105]

>>5960516
I'm only looking to play my Dreamcast really so it works out I guess.

[Anonymous No.5962125]

>>5962041
A question though, do you think maybe this is the Japanese Da-15 rgb like on a pc-98? Or I think one of the megaviews had an rgb connector with this terminal? Was there a da-15 rgb standard?

[Anonymous No.5962142]

>>5962125
dat corrosion

[Anonymous No.5962148]

>>5961387
>emu on Wii
How does it run? Injected or are you using Not64 or something?

[Anonymous No.5962156]

>>5962148
Yeah, it's Not64 and it has some slowdown in some stages,(part of the opening) others are nearly flawless, it's pretty good and the slowdown that's experienced occasionally can be "ran away from". Even the real cart would slow down if enough stuff were happening at once, but it's enjoyable. It's not the jankfest that Shadows of the Empire is. Music is great.

[Anonymous No.5962168]

>>5961579

[Anonymous No.5962175]

>>5962125
Unlikely, given that Zenith was a US brand and the PC-98 scans at 24 kHz anyway. Back then monitors used all sorts of weird connectors, and you often had to buy cables specific to your computer and monitor combination. Based on what incomplete schematics I found and my semi-educated guesses, I would start at connector E on the main board and work your way back to the RGB connector with a multimeter.

[Anonymous No.5962193]

>>5962175
Do you think it would be quicker to use one of these and try random combinations of green/green ground, red/red ground etc or could I damage it if I accidentally link a 5v power pin or something

[Anonymous No.5962203]

>>5962125
>Was there a da-15 rgb standard?
Apple used DA-15 for Apple //gs RGB and also for color Macs using higher horizontal scan rates generally comparable to VGA starting with the Mac II.

[Anonymous No.5962207]

>>5962193
Yeah, I would definitely advise against that. Could easily damage either the source or the monitor if you get it wrong.

[Anonymous No.5962587]

Got this bad boy to replace my old one. Where are my big tube bros at?

[Anonymous No.5962595]

>>5962193

[Anonymous No.5962662]

Found a 32' trinitron for $20 but it has considerable shadows. Is there a sane way to reduce/eliminate them?

[Anonymous No.5962751]

>>5960031
I'm quite picky with what I get, this isn't all the ones I have, just one ones at home.

[Anonymous No.5962762]

>>5961579
>>5961648
OP here.

Yeah, pretty sure it's a PVM-2950.

[Anonymous No.5962767]

>>5962751
>picky
What, you only go for extremely shitty silver ones?

[Anonymous No.5962846]

>>5962662
Are you a giant

[Anonymous No.5962941]

>>5960521
>What is the ultimate crt?
No so thing, but Mitsubishi Megaview and NEC XM/XP/XV series gets pretty close if you’re prioritizing /vr/ stuff.

[Anonymous No.5962978]

>>5962941
>>What is the ultimate crt?
One without shadow masking.

[Anonymous No.5963527]

>>5962587
JVC gang

[Anonymous No.5963546]

>>5960806
>see Trinitrons being given away at least once a week in my city
>can never get them because they require a buddy to help lift
>tfw no friends

[Anonymous No.5963547]

>>5962193
Why are women so stupid?

[Anonymous No.5963565]

Is there anything that can be done about distortions on a consumer TV when areas are brighter than other areas?

[Anonymous No.5963575]

>>5963565
Not without opening the case in which case I please don't if you don't know what you're doing as an unplugged CRT will deliver 50,000 volts and end you if you touch them near or on the anode cap.

[Anonymous No.5963587]

>>5963565
Or, more likely, use a magnet to even it out. Really.

[Anonymous No.5963598]

This isnt even all of them

[Anonymous No.5963645]

Is it even worth getting non Wega Trinitrons?

[Anonymous No.5963652]

>>5963598
Audiocucked.

[Anonymous No.5963696]

>>5963645
That is a Trinitron Wega. Pretty sure it's a KVFV300 or 310.

[Anonymous No.5963703]

[Anonymous No.5963707]

>>5962193
It's possible you could damage it, but rather unlikely.
At least get a voltmeter. Oscilloscope preferred. Ground to the shell of the connector, do a continuity test to see what pin is ground.
Then with your ground secured start probing the pins for voltage. When you find your 5v/whatever, mark that one as one to NOT plug into your tv. Check all the pins, don't assume only one power wire.
Then it should be safe to do what you were suggesting to figure out the signals.

You can skip the continuity between ground pin and shell thing, if you follow the traces on the PCB and visually see where they connect.

[Anonymous No.5963709]

>>5961353
I prefer my 14 to my 20 at the distance i play.

[Anonymous No.5963723]

>>5963703
>finding that purple Cover materia in the garden
Damn its such a great game.

[Anonymous No.5963737]

>>5963723
The music at the house is so damn fitting.
I've been listening to it for the last 25 minutes or so and i'm not getting annoyed yet.

[Anonymous No.5963780]

>>5963707
Thanks for that info

Here's a preliminary test of the tv with the composite. It looks exactly like an arcade monitor, gorgeous

[Anonymous No.5963789]

>>5963780

[Anonymous No.5963794]

>>5963789

[Anonymous No.5963803]

>>5963794

[Anonymous No.5963823]

>>5963803

[Anonymous No.5963865]

>>5963780
That is pretty nice looking for composite, in the arcade sense. Usually an arcade monitor would look blurry because it wasn't in great shape though.
Of course they were usually consumer TV tubes with special inputs, so that can't have helped.

Anyway I'd say you found a pretty good condition consumer set, at least where it counts. Colors might be a little different than what I like from my NES, but it's close and the clarity/dot pitch is quite good in that satisfyingly retro sense.
Reminds me a little of my Apple monitor, but this looks slightly clearer than my monitor and is also larger.

Have you considered getting red automotive paint, black paint, and potentially some glass/well polished acrylic? I think that might make a nice looking pseudo-Sharp X1 screen if you painted it.

Or you could just paint it black or something.

[Anonymous No.5963926]

>>5960041
If you're willing to deal with cranky boomers Facebook marketplace is a surprisingly good source for CRTs

[Anonymous No.5963942]

>>5962587
>that
>big

[Anonymous No.5963964]

>>5963865
I will paint it to cover up the scratches to the wood, not sure the color. I'm excited to see how sharp rgb can get

[Anonymous No.5964002]

>>5963964
I honestly had no idea that was wood from the photo.
>I'm excited to see how sharp rgb can get
You'll like it.
Composite is fine for NES in my opinion though. I know RGB looks nicer, but since the hardware doesn't make RGB I'm happy to use that as an excuse to stick with composite. It does have quite sharp composite video due to some trickery with the subcarrier waveform.

[Anonymous No.5964014]

>>5963942
It's 36 inches. I've been gaming on a 32 for a while. Gotta get use to this one

[Anonymous No.5964020]

>>5963527
First time on a JVC set. Liking it so far although this is some color bleed so I have to mess around with the settings. Also I noticed a crackling sound on one of the speakers.

[Anonymous No.5964040]

Really dumb question, does anyone know if a Sony KV-27FS210 will output 240p? Found conflicting info online.

[Anonymous No.5964065]

>>5963942
I have never found a 32 or larger with good geometry. I have found a few 27 and one 29 though. Flat or chunk tubes, always have just enough issues where service menu isn't enough.

[Anonymous No.5964094]

whats the best type of CRTV to play NES on?

[Anonymous No.5964103]

>>5964094
It's CRT TV, anon. CRT=cathode ray tube. And the answer, if you want the classic games to look as they were intended, is to play on a regular CRT TV of almost any brand, but I recommend Magnavox for late '90s and early 2000s. OTHERWISE, if you fall for "shadow masking" you'll end up with a look similar to modern LCD with undesirable results.
tl;dr look for a consumer grade CRT TV of circa 1995-2000 if you can. The later will usually have S-Video, RGB, composite, component, and RF inputs too.

[Anonymous No.5964107]

>>5964094
>CRTV
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.5964119]

>>5964094
P.S. The high-pitched sound you hear after turning on the heavy ass CRT TeleVision is normal and will both largely subside or your ears will get used to it, or not. I find that in most sets, the sounds decreases so as not to heard during normal operation or even goes away.

[Anonymous No.5964127]

>>5964094
P.S. The high-pitched sound you hear after turning on the heavy ass CRT TeleVision is normal and will both largely subside or your ears will get used to it, or not. I find that in most sets, the sounds decreases so as not to be heard during normal operation or even goes away.

[Anonymous No.5964256]

[Anonymous No.5964593]

>>5964040
It will if you send it 240p in, it's a regular SD set.

[Anonymous No.5964669]

>>5964040
Please go back to Fortnite.

[Anonymous No.5964680]

>>5964127
I had one where the sound was way too loud that it gave me a headache. Only CRT to ever do that to me. It's a shame though because it was my favourite one.

[Anonymous No.5964682]

>>5964593
Thanks, cnet was trying to tell me it's 1080i but they can be full of shit

>>5964669
Go touch the inside of your TV faggot

[Anonymous No.5964686]

Anyone here s video master race?

Currently have a Mitsubishi with s video out as the best option so I use that for basically everything but I'm considering a component flat Panasonic crt but component cables are damn expensive and it don't see many s video and component comparisons online to see if it'd be worth.

[Anonymous No.5964742]

>>5964682
You might literally be retarded. Either way you do need to be 18 to post here so please leave immediately.

[Anonymous No.5964759]

>>5964686
Composite is superior.

[Anonymous No.5964765]

>spends $200 dollars on a pvmeme
>uses built in mono speaker for audio

[Anonymous No.5964974]

>>5964765
literally no one does this.
Also 200 for a PVmeme is sadly lowball in today's market. I see retards getting into bidding wars and spending like 350+ on a fucking 13" pvm.

And then there's the people who actually buy those 8" monitors. I'll never be able to understand that.

[Anonymous No.5964980]

lil somethin i'm working on

[Anonymous No.5964981]

>>5964256
What game

[Anonymous No.5964992]

>>5964981
Holy Striker for the Super Famicom, known in the US as Firestriker.

[Anonymous No.5964995]

>>5964992
Any good?

[Anonymous No.5965031]

>>5964974
*chuckles* No one?

[Anonymous No.5965034]

>>5965031

[Anonymous No.5965139]

>>5961119
>fellow all-Sony wanker
Well met, my dude. I didn't really start out going all-Sony on purpose, most of this shit was just super cheap and in real good shape.

[Anonymous No.5965154]

help

[Anonymous No.5965279]

Last month I picked up for free a Sony Wega someone brought to the States from Japan. It's model number is KV-29DS1. Whats cool about this tv is that it takes component video through a D-terminal connector (component cable with a weird japan vga looking connector) and rgb! Sony made a special cable to hook ps1 and ps2 rgb straight to these Wega sets but the Japanese figured out you can make a jp21 breakout cable pretty easily. This picture and sound on this set is fucking great. Best picture I've seen on a consumer set desu.

[Anonymous No.5965282]

a pic of it from the back

[Anonymous No.5965286]

and a shitty pic of it in action. looks tons better in person

[Anonymous No.5965294]

>>5960521
Eizo F980

[Anonymous No.5965318]

>>5965279
Someone brought a fucking 29 inch television overseas to America

[Anonymous No.5965324]

>>5965154
There is no help for a PVMeme audiocuck.

[Anonymous No.5965327]

>>5965318
Ya hahah! I'm fucking happy they did though.

[Anonymous No.5965332]

>>5965327
I wonder what the shipping is. I’ve tried to import a set a few times but anything over 30kg I’ve been quoted to range wildly from $300-$10000.

[Anonymous No.5965341]

>>5965332
The guy lived in a very expensive area of Ann Arbor MI in a big expensive looking house. So who knows.

[Anonymous No.5965528]

>>5965327
looks like shit, lol

[Anonymous No.5965721]

>>5965031
never forget

[Anonymous No.5965735]

>>5965279
>>5965282
Wow, that's way cool. I've heard of those before, but only in passing. I'd love to see some more pictures of it, if you got em.

[Anonymous No.5965736]

>>5965286
I can tell it looks lovely in person. Good find, anon.

[Anonymous No.5965760]

>>5965279
yo thats fucking cool

[Anonymous No.5965820]

>>5960031
How much you figure a PVM like that costs lmao

[Anonymous No.5965982]

>>5964974
5 pvmemes >>5965154 and nary an external speaker in sight...yeah, I’m thinking that’s audiocucked.

[Anonymous No.5966005]

This is your fault, /vr/

https://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/Sony-Trinitron-Retro-Gamer-TV-27_34709236.lite

>common consumer Trinitron
>$500.....

>obo

Yeah, how's $20 sound? No? OK, my best offer is now you pay me $5 to pick it up. I really hope nobody is /that/ retarded but a zoomer might think they found a rare gem

[Anonymous No.5966114]

>>5965982
I'm assuming those aren't in use, just being stored. Doesn't look like a living room setup.

[Anonymous No.5966116]

>>5966005
The best is how you now see people trying to sell their 32-36" TVs for a pretty penny. Nigger, nobody is going to pay YOU to haul off your heavy garbage for you.

[Anonymous No.5966184]

How good are the Memorex brand of CRT tv? I recently found one, a portable 9 inch with a dvd player built-in.

[Anonymous No.5966190]

>>5965820
well those kinds are usually sold for cheap because the redditors don't know about hantarex et al

[Anonymous No.5966194]

>>5966116
>>5966005
Good to see people on /vr/ admitting CRTs are garbage no one wants. Took long enough.

[Anonymous No.5966420]

should I buy lads

[Anonymous No.5966427]

>>5966420
Lad no, playing on a flatpanel would be better. Unless you can get a nice little 80s PC monitor with composite input or a PVM a modern tv is better.

[Anonymous No.5966765]

So this is what a black screen on my Zenith Space Command from 1989 looks like. Now I know I'm dealing with a simple RF only signal here, but I know that it didn't used to look THIS bad just months ago, and I've owned this tv for about 2 years now and I've gotten some use out of it. But it's really affecting my enjoyment when playing my NES or watching tapes there's just a layer of fine static over the image, making it look worse than RF already does by default.
Is there anything I can do to adjust the image, outside of sending it to a local repair shop?

[Anonymous No.5966770]

>>5966765
here's what it looks like with a tape with a black screen

[Anonymous No.5966771]

>>5966765
>>5966770
and here's what black looks like with an NES game

[Anonymous No.5966782]

Alright /vr/, I think I want to take the pvm/bvm pill. I know pvm/bvm were made to withstand heavier usage and I know it depends a lot on the condition of the monitor, but how long can I expect one of these to last? I wouldn't be able to service it myself and there's no way I'm gonna pay Savon Pat $400+shipping to have it serviced.

Been eyeing a few monitors, but I think I want a PVM-20M4U.

[Anonymous No.5966795]

>>5966765
>>5966770
>>5966771
And here's a picture from about a year ago when it looked better.

So needless to say, my poor Zenith isn't doing too hot recently, and I love the little guy, more so than my beefy PVM 2530 even. So any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

[Anonymous No.5966797]

>>5966795
shit forgot the pic lol

[Anonymous No.5966906]

>>5966795
Sounds like the tuner is drifting.

[Anonymous No.5967037]

What are your guys thoughts on this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6B4t5fCEbQ

[Anonymous No.5967046]

>>5966906
But I don't have a tuner.

[Anonymous No.5967049]

Got myself a 28" B&O MX 7000, gonna enjoy myself with some SNES and PS1 JRPGs.

[Anonymous No.5967058]

>>5967046
the part of the TV that demodulates the RF

[Anonymous No.5967101]

>>5966797
Damn dude she's a beauty.

[Anonymous No.5967113]

What are the best ways to hook up emulators to a pvm?

[Anonymous No.5967118]

>>5967113
crt emudriver and a d-sub-to-bnc breakout cable

[Anonymous No.5967207]

Does anyone have any recommendations for bnc to Phoenix adapter? The cable I have is male bnc so I need Phoenix plugs with female bnc jacks on the back.

[Anonymous No.5967229]

>>5967118
Does emu let you output composite sync over one cable or do you also need a sync combiner

[Anonymous No.5967237]

>>5967207
what are you using that uses screw terminals for video?

>>5967229
you can set it to output csync and just use four BNCs

[Anonymous No.5967240]

>>5967237
The screw terminals are for audio. I made my own cable out of a pre-made bnc cable and used the bnc connectors for the audio instead of switching them over to rca

[Anonymous No.5967246]

>>5967240
strange, but alright. If that's the case you'll need some BNC cables with female ends, then cut and strip the wire and screw them into the phoenix adapters. Really would've just made more sense to go with RCA for audio.

Alternatively use BNC-RCA adapters and then you can use stripped female RCA cables for the phoenix adapters, which would be a lot easier to get a hold of.

[Anonymous No.5967296]

Everyone sound off with their favorite tvl count for 240p is. Personally I think 600tvl is the perfect balance of scanlines and blurred 'pixels'

[Anonymous No.5967314]

>>5967037
Oh-sillah-scope NOT AH-sillah-scope
To long and drawn out. And full of bullshit, i.e., the video does not take into account that some humans can perceive lag when others cannot, yes, even in milliseconds.
Hal-not Hall Laboratory, Inc.
Read-alarm dryness...such boredom.
All of it can be simplified to say:
>Shit's out of sync, bra because the game was 'tarded to begin with and LCDs are 'tarded too. And shit is still slower than using a CRT."

Hated the video, it felt like punishment, but it is highly informative, so plus one there.
One final thought on Melee players and this issue specifically: I don't believe for a second that any of you can perceive the times you claim. Sure, you see the results, and yes, you ingeniously expressed the math, but no, there is no way most of you are quick-draws, who are fast enough to detect your silly 16.67ms madness, or less.

tl;dr get a CRT, stop being a fag, and git gud

[Anonymous No.5967327]

*too long
Your work in fixing the problem is appreciated, but I refuse to believe that modern players will ever take advantage of those removed latencies. Old school players, maybe, but not you guys. Nope. Especially when you're talking about a chunky button-masher like Melee anyway. lol

[Anonymous No.5967329]

>>5967314
>Oh-sillah-scope NOT AH-sillah-scope
you can pronounce it either way.
cf. "oscillate"

[Anonymous No.5967335]

>>5967329
If you say "tray-zure" instead of "treh-zure", you're pretentious. Like Americans who say "miss-aisle" instead of "miss-uhl". However, if you're on the other side of the pond, you get a pass.

[Anonymous No.5967337]

>>5967335
/əˈsJl.J.skəʊp/, /ˈɒˌsJl.J.skəʊp/

[Anonymous No.5967343]

>>5967337
That means nothing to me. May as well be hieroglyphics, although some of those aren't really a mystery anymore.

[Anonymous No.5967436]

>>5960043
Lmao assblasted non euros who have to actually look and spend money to get rgb
Get fucked fags

[Anonymous No.5967439]

>>5967436
Oh no I'll just have to pick up a mod or start an emulator. FUCK!

[Anonymous No.5967480]

>>5967296
1000TVL

[Anonymous No.5967486]

>>5967296
>>5967480
450 is good for me

Saturn RGB on KX-14CP1

[Anonymous No.5967537]

>>5967439
show us your modded collection

[Anonymous No.5967542]

>>5967436
and you have to actually look and spend money in order to get games that run at proper speed and aspect ratio

[Anonymous No.5967559]

>>5967439
>Having to mod
>>5967542
>What is eBay
Lmao burger niggers

[Anonymous No.5967565]

>>5967439
>Emulating
Pukin'

[Anonymous No.5967585]

>>5967559
>what is ebay
something where you have to spend extra money because all the stuff you actually used growing up is useless without replacing the hardware with imports and/or modding

[Anonymous No.5967652]

Anyone have experience with a Fw900 Trinitron?

[Anonymous No.5967782]

>>5967652
this is a no-meme-zone, friend

[Anonymous No.5967923]

>>5967652
Congratulations on spending several hundred dollars on a monitor because a pudgy youtuber told you to.

[Anonymous No.5967942]

>>5967923
>several hundred
probably more like several thousand at this point. I don't even want to know how much people are paying for FW900s now when even standard off the shelf gateway monitors are being sold for like 200

[Anonymous No.5968050]

>>5967486
>Anything before 540

[Anonymous No.5968058]

>>5967652
Some.

[Anonymous No.5968064]

>>5967113
Get a Wii

[Anonymous No.5968067]

>>5968050
My first professional monitor was a 500tvl with svideo only. I thought it looked great. The one I currently use the most is 560tvl with rgb and it looks much better but I think it might be because it's much fucking brighter. The 600tvl with rgb isnt as punchy. The 750tvl jvc with a scart card is fucking great, but only 16" so not very practical

[Anonymous No.5968082]

>>5968067
I heard JVC's advertised line counts are bullshit and they use a metric that's not industry-standard TVL count.

[Anonymous No.5968107]

>>5967113
Pvm is for fucking faggots and cumguzzlers. ZOOM ZOOM

[Anonymous No.5968248]

halp

[Anonymous No.5968251]

>>5968248
Change Capacitors

[Anonymous No.5968254]

>>5968248
Run a magnet from the center out to even out the electrons.

[Anonymous No.5968256]

>>5968251
"replace ur capacitors" is the /vr/ equivalent of jackasses thinking "LMAO UPDATE UR DRIVERS" is the best response for literally every software issue

[Anonymous No.5968265]

>>5968248
See if your set has a degauss button on it or on the remote. If that doesn't clear it up, you might need to buy an external degaussing coil and use that.

[Anonymous No.5968531]

The NTSC generator has been working out nicely, really showing the adjustment issues and convergence problems but fucking Philips decided to lock out any horizontal and pincushion settings from the service menu on this tv. All I got is vertical adjustments. Fuck

[Anonymous No.5969184]

I live in Japan and just bought a PVM. Is there much difference between using s video and BNC cables? The BNC cables seem to cost more than the PVM itself here.

[Anonymous No.5969257]

So, extron crosspoint switchers only take csync or will they take cvsb?

[Anonymous No.5969262]

>>5969257
git crt asap

[Anonymous No.5969319]

>>5969184
>Is there much difference between using s video and BNC cables?
Yes, in the same way that there's a large difference between making a mortgage payment and going to a cheese-and-wine party, they're not even in the same category.

BNC cables are a type of coaxial cable, and can carry whatever signal you put through them, including S video. Did you mean RGBS when you said BNC cables?

[Anonymous No.5969330]

>>5969319
I meant buying a scart to BNC adapter plus new scart cables instead of just buying a 400 yen SFC S video cable.

[Anonymous No.5969342]

>>5969262
You're getting two different video signals. The scart/ bnc cables you're talking about are presumably pushing rgb. Rgb will give you a higher quality image over svideo but it's not a huge jump. But what's the point of having a broadcast monitor if you're not going use rgb? No need for the extra cables and extra cost, just buy an rgb breakout bnc cable.

[Anonymous No.5969347]

>>5969342
Woops, meant for
>>5969330

[Anonymous No.5969363]

>>5969262
>>5969342
>>5969347
My signals are in your head, man!

[Anonymous No.5969426]

If your set has a high contrast mode, do you use it?

[Anonymous No.5969429]

>>5969426
No, especially on a CRT because it'll make burn-ins happen and sooner. On the older ones contrast tended to be another brightness setting.

[Anonymous No.5969430]

>>5969426
I don't have a mode but I crank the contrast up when using svideo because it's the only way it looks okay. I crank the Luma up too. Otherwise it all looks grey or dull

[Anonymous No.5969496]

>>5969257
Crosspoints all require csync as far as I know.

[Anonymous No.5969594]

>>5969496
Thanks, I guess I'll know for sure later tonight.

[Anonymous No.5969894]

>>5969430
That's not normal, you should look for a way to render that workaround unnecessary

[Anonymous No.5969919]

>>5969894
Sorry, I meant chroma. The contrast does essentially work as anothet brightness adjustment as far as o can tell though

[Anonymous No.5969932]

>>5969919
Usually brightness is an offset, contrast is gain.

[Anonymous No.5970150]

>>5969426
I set the brightness/contrast using a pluge

[Anonymous No.5970376]

Could someone help me identify this monitor? It's a pc monitor and I think I can make out an "NEC" on the top left corner, but even that I'm unsure of. Looks on the bigger side in this picture, but I'm starting to think that it's just an illusion.

[Anonymous No.5970385]

>>5970376
Looks like an AOC computer monitor. This 7F-SLK seems like a match: https://www.amazon.com/AOC-7F-SLK-Monitor-Silver-Charcoal/dp/B00006BALU

[Anonymous No.5970392]

>>5970385
Thanks anon, I never would have been able to find that.
Damn shame though. Looks like it's no better than my Sony CPD-200sf. It's in northern mass fb market place. Free if anybody else wants it.

[Anonymous No.5970452]

Should I be concerned about setting an extron crosspoint directly on top of my monitor? It doesn't get hot, but it's definitely warm.

Also, can confirm it's csync only. I guess most of you knew that already but might as well follow up. Does component without a hitch too. Now i just need to rework my cable to do csync instead of cvbs.

[Anonymous No.5970454]

>>5969932
Brightness is black point, contrast is white point.

[Anonymous No.5970456]

>>5969430
You’re the imbecile that gets impressed when he sees all the TVs in Best Buy set to torch mode.

[Anonymous No.5970541]

Just gonna put it out there. I doubt anyone is near me but I figure I'd give my fellow autists a shot.

I have a 1994 Sony XBR 27" CRT. Has composite and S-video. Nothing wrong with it short of the menu text that bounce (old caps is my guess) once an image appears on the screen the bounce stops, no shimmering that I can spot or abnormal vertical movement.

Does have the remote and the original manual. It's basically flawless. I'm offering it up for FREE. I got it free and I'm passing it on.

If you live in Wisconsin and near the Green Bay area, get at me and we'll set up something. I can deliver it for decent coffee.

If you're asking why I'm letting it go, it's because I found a Toshiva 27AF43 that I'm pleased with.

[Anonymous No.5970562]

>>5970541
>menu text that bounce...once an image appears on the screen the bounce stops
Perhaps not normal on your TV but normal on lots of others. I wouldn't think anything of it if I saw it for the first time on just about any display.

[Anonymous No.5970606]

>>5963926
>implying that anon is not a cranky boomer

[Anonymous No.5971137]

Just a generic Toshiba CRT, but I'm pretty happy I can get 240p component to it out of just a 970GTX and a cheapo $15 HDMI adapter.

[Anonymous No.5971201]

>>5971137
And best of all, it looks like shit.

[Anonymous No.5971212]

>>5971201
It perfectly replicates playing the game from outside your house, looking through a window screen though.

[Anonymous No.5971216]

>>5970562
It never bothered me but I wanted to be upfront with a potential pickup.

The toshiba fell into my hands and I had a Retrovision genesis cable that wasn’t being utilized with the Sony. Worked out perfect for me.

I just want to pass on this great set so someone else could enjoy that CRT glow

[Anonymous No.5971221]

>>5971201
You’re right, needs a good old objectively how the devs intended composite cable.

[Anonymous No.5971225]

>>5971137
Looks nice.
>>5971201
dial 8

[Anonymous No.5971339]

I'm looking to hook a modern PC up to a 1024x768 VGA monitor, to play build engine games and quake

Is this a feasible setup, what would I need and are there any hang ups I should be aware of? I figured it would be a lot easier to run these games through newer engines on modern hardware than to build a retro pc specifically to play them but there could be something obvious I'm missing

[Anonymous No.5971356]

>>5962587
Anon fix your fucking lower pin cushion settings jesus fuck

[Anonymous No.5971460]

>>5960031
I have 5 CRT:s. Three of them are rather average and two good ones. Sony Trinitron model kv-14lt1e and Finnish 32 inches TV by "Asa Radio Oy" from late late 1970s. I gained both for free from my Fathers old friend who just said to me "No return policy".

[Anonymous No.5971471]

>>5962587
>>5963527
Reporting in.

[Anonymous No.5971476]

>>5971460
unsubscribe

[Anonymous No.5971491]

Are pvm/bvm the only CRT with RGB input?

[Anonymous No.5971497]

>>5971491
No, not at all

[Anonymous No.5971506]

>>5971491
Read the sticky.

[Anonymous No.5971507]

>>5971491
Most CRTs made after 2000 have RGB.

[Anonymous No.5971519]

>>5971507
That's not even slightly true

[Anonymous No.5971525]

>>5967240
You need to finish making the cable and put the correct ends on it then.

[Anonymous No.5971560]

>>5971519
What said that? Whatever said that zoomed by at such an insane speed that I couldn't make it out.

[Anonymous No.5971580]

>>5971525
It doesn't even seem to matter. I have plenty of bnc to rca adapters plus it's going to go into captive screw terminals anyway, not rca jacks.

[Anonymous No.5971750]

>>5965318
>>5965318
The guy that gave me this 36" said he shipped it to Saudi Arabia when he had to move there then shipped it back when he moved back to the states.

[Anonymous No.5971806]

>>5971750
Beautiful and glasspilled.

[Anonymous No.5971809]

>>5971750
that's a huge ass tv

[Anonymous No.5972034]

>>5971506
>sticky

[Anonymous No.5972051]

Where the hell can I find extron captive screws audio terminals, pic related? I have plenty of the green guys on the left with various terminals but they don't seem to fit. They're ever so slightly off.

[Anonymous No.5972056]

>>5972051
Oh wait, I didn't even look at the picture closely. I have green guys but actually styled like the rest of them.

[Anonymous No.5972641]

>>5971750
best game, best display, but turn the camera flash off ree

[Anonymous No.5972659]

>>5971491
every even the cheapest european tv made in early 90's and onward had RGB

[Anonymous No.5972718]

>>5971339
Just get a decent converter like a Tendak, I'm using a generic one and setting the resolution to 1024x768 or 1600x1200 fucks with the wi-fi so I usually settle for 800x600@120Hz or 1280x1024@75Hz

[Anonymous No.5973127]

>>5971750
What a pity it is to be audiocucked.

[Anonymous No.5973130]

It's really sad that these shit crt threads have become a constant here in vr. Every single one of you is a fucking zoomer dipshit. Maybe 1% of us boomers give a fuck about some $30 dollar crt that we have already previously thrown into the garbage. Fuck all of you brokeass losers. Go play some PS4.

[Anonymous No.5973138]

>>5973130
Yikes, cringe, bluepilled, and slightly oof.

[Anonymous No.5973145]

I once abandoned my perfectly good 32" Trinitron because I was moving and nearly died carrying it down a flight of stairs, then accidentally dropped the corner on the ground outside. So I got fed up, assumed it would no longer work after that, and took it to a recycling center. I regret it deeply but having moved a couple times since then, I can't imagine having to haul that thing around. Now I'm in the market for a 27" and I'm realizing how lucky I was to even get that free 32" in the first place because there's nothing around me anymore.

[Anonymous No.5973186]

>>5973130
rent free

[Anonymous No.5973191]

>>5973145
What a fucking weak body lmao

[Anonymous No.5973196]

>>5973145
cool

[Anonymous No.5973201]

>>5963803
Is this the zenith last thread trying to figure out if it could do RGB?

[Anonymous No.5973262]

>>5973191
oh yeah I have absolutely no muscle mass, ultimate skinnyfat

>>5973196
thanks.

[Anonymous No.5973272]

>>5973127
to be fair, CRTs tend to have fairly decent built-in speakers simply because there's enough room for them. It's not like with flat-panels where a separate sound solution is basically required because otherwise you're relying on itty bitty shitty speakers.

[Anonymous No.5973426]

>>5973191
t. guy who has never owned one CRT much less one that weighs probably 250lbs and is awkward to handle.

[Anonymous No.5973453]

>>5971471
What game is that?

[Anonymous No.5973518]

>>5973453
Looks like Ninja Gaiden III.

[Anonymous No.5973578]

>>5973426
Not everybody is fat and weak

[Anonymous No.5973583]

>>5973578
Their weight isn't evenly distributed, Biff.

[Anonymous No.5973594]

>>5973583
As with most things

[Anonymous No.5973626]

Just got a 14n6u at the flea market for $10. Will report back once I get it home.

[Anonymous No.5973671]

Hey groovy dudes. Got a 5" JVC Tm-22EG for my desk at my flat, 'cos I have no room for any of my larger sets.
Running emulators via a Wii through composite and it's odd, the colours are pretty nice and obviously the motion is excellent but it has an odd problem with bloom, wherein if the contrast is turned up too high the images distort at the corners and it overscans quite hard. As a result it then fails to resolve the full resolution as you can see here. Limiting brightness and or/contrast can solve this, but does anyone know why this might be happening?

[Anonymous No.5973685]

If I bought a 20L5 and took a shit right on top of it would yall appreciate a picture?

[Anonymous No.5973687]

>>5973685
Definitely. I might frame it, honestly.

[Anonymous No.5973986]

I might be retarded. This came up for free locally so I figured I couldn't not get it. It is going to need geometry tweaks but also.. it might just be too goddamn big. My room is upstairs and it's not getting there with one person. Smh. KV-32FV310

[Anonymous No.5973991]

>>5973986

It's undeniably nice, but to be honest, my OSSC with a cheapo TCL 4 series is... not that far off. Yes, even for 480i stuff. Idk. Might need to see if there's any local diehards who want it more.

[Anonymous No.5974013]

>>5973986
27" is my upper limit for carrying alone, stairs or no. Also, Sonys are heavier than other TVs of the same screen size.

[Anonymous No.5974102]

>>5973272
The average TV does not have “decent” built in speakers by a long shot

[Anonymous No.5974442]

>>5960098
This but to the Internet imagined as an object

[Anonymous No.5974448]

>>5968254
Oh hush, give the zoomer a break

[Anonymous No.5974510]

>>5973986
Jesus anon, call a friend up, offer them a pizza or some shit

[Anonymous No.5974581]

>>5973986
What this guy said >>5974510, that's a chad among consumer sets and is definitely worth keeping.

[Anonymous No.5974598]

>>5968248

Has anyone on here tried this ghetto method?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHak3xx37Vs

[Anonymous No.5974601]

>>5973201
Yes

[Anonymous No.5974645]

>>5973986

It's not the end-all be-all of sets, stop listening to people jack it off like their angry step-father about bend them over the counter. That said, it has the original stand, and it's free, as the owner of the 27" variant also acquired for free, absolutely go for it if you can. It IS a nice set, there are just many others that compare to it easily imo. TLDR don't spend an arm and a leg just to get a meme set that uses a tube present in literally 5+ other models of Wegas.

[Anonymous No.5974697]

>>5974448
...that's exactly what I was doing by telling them how to fix it.

[Anonymous No.5974745]

>>5974601
happy birthday anon

[Anonymous No.5974887]

Does anybody have a recommendation for a good VGA cable? Whatever one I have seems like it might be introducing some ghosting on my monitor.

[Anonymous No.5974892]

>>5974887
>good
>VGA cable
lol

[Anonymous No.5974913]

>>5974892
?

[Anonymous No.5974921]

>>5974913
They're all shitty, just get a new one.

[Anonymous No.5975009]

>>5974913
It's the hot new zoomer meme, they think build quality is a concept only invented sometime in the past 2 years or so.

[Anonymous No.5975010]

>>5975009
No, man, VGA cables have always been dodgy.

[Anonymous No.5975112]

What's the best 20-25" Trinitron model? I'm too poor to afford a BVM/PVM.

[Anonymous No.5975120]

>>5975112
anyone you can get your hands on

[Anonymous No.5975123]

>>5975112
>>5975120
Another falls to the shadowmask meme.

[Anonymous No.5975126]

>>5975123
there is nothing wrong with owning a shadowmask

[Anonymous No.5975127]

>>5975123
What's the different between Shadowmask and Aperture Grille?

[Anonymous No.5975143]

>>5975127
Basically both are different technologies to achieve the same effect. Shadowmask doesn't misfire so many electrons, while AG simply cannot send the electrons to the wrong color. Technically AG is better, more exact, if you like that sort of thing. Personally, regular CRTs and their wasted electrons actually make the classics look at they're supposed to.

[Anonymous No.5975146]

Daily reminder that WEGAs are garbage and the Toshiba AF series blows them out of the water in nearly every manner

Also a reminder that flat tubes will never be as good as curved and D-Series are superior to both

[Anonymous No.5975153]

https://youtu.be/9LWlluqqu-E?t=15

[Anonymous No.5975162]

>>5974645
>don't spend an arm and a leg just to get a meme set that uses a tube present in literally 5+ other models of Wegas.
I agree that it's not the be-all-end-all, but it's not the tube of the FV310 that makes it special, it's the high-voltage regulator that it's equipped with, which reduces blooming and makes scanlines slightly more pronounced, which some people like. AFAIK, this was the only consumer set that Sony put that circuitry in, and that feature was otherwise exclusive to their professional monitors.
I agree with you that anon shouldn't spend an arm and a leg to move it, but there's no reason that it should cost anything to move it. Reach out to friends or neighbors, say thanks with food and hospitality.

[Anonymous No.5975165]

>>5975010
Maybe all the ones you've ever used. I won't dispute your experiences, but I will dispute the breadth of that experience if this is the conclusion you've reached.

[Anonymous No.5975170]

>>5975165
Probably, my luck ebbs and flows with electronic stuff.

[Anonymous No.5975189]

Crt question here, I picked up a new one that I found at a thrift store and it has this weird thing where if nothing is being displayed the screen is green. I've looked around and can't seem to find anything on this but I'm assuming it's some kind of power saving feature so that you know when the TV's on (it's also a lot less green than it looks in the photo to the naked eye). There's absolutely no issues when it's supposed to be displaying something, either way does anyone else have one that does this? And/or do you know for sure why it does this?

[Anonymous No.5975198]

>>5975189
They just do that and you might have a setting to turn that off. One of my CRTs turns blue when nothing is happening.

[Anonymous No.5975214]

>>5975198
I mean I appreciate the feature to be honest, I left my last set on overnight a couple times. I just wanted to make sure there was nothing wrong with it and I was having a hard time finding anything about it, thank you

[Anonymous No.5975225]

>>5975162

Honestly, if I can hire a pro for $100ish, I might go for it. Basically, I live in a house that's 100 years old+ and the stairwell, while it will accomodate it width wise, has a lot of woodwork that CANNOT get damaged or scuffed up by amateurs who are prone to having something like this slip out of their hands, it's already gotten a couple chips on the case from that on the way into the house. My best free or free ish idea is

>acquire dolly
>position set face down on said dolly
>secure with straps
>slowly roll up stairs with 2 people

Really though, the big thing is, I need to be pretty sure that once it's up here, I'm not gonna want it to leave for a long time, and that's something that I don't have a lot of certainty about.

[Anonymous No.5975238]

>>5975198
>>5975214
Panasonic loved to do this with their VCRs, the colored (blue in their case) screen would mask snow on non-tuned channels or shaky/noisy video from poorly tracked videocassettes. I never saw a Toshiba TV automatically go green though, and I've owned several with the same exterior appearance as the one in the pic.

[Anonymous No.5975263]

>>5975225
Do you HAVE to put it upstairs?
I think the dolly idea could be a pretty solid bet, but if you go for the dolly idea, just make absolutely sure that you pad the glass extremely well. Use a very soft, clean blanket against the screen, and pillows between the blanket and the metal bars of the dolly. You might even find a piece of particle board to put between the dolly and the pillows so that the weight is distributed across a greater area.

[Anonymous No.5975376]

>>5975225
Ouch, hardwood stairs rarely take to dollys well. If you do this, be sure to use a runner rug that's wide enough to accommodate the wheels and sleds on the back of the dolly without being slippery or in the way of the person(s) pulling(/pushing) it up. If that provides inadequate protection for your stairs, I'd recommend an outdoor winch & pulley system to hoist it through a window or balcony door. Metal or concrete outdoor stairs though, no problem, just wrap the TV well and truck that thing right up.

If the stairs are carpeted though, just one person can push even a 36" up by himself without a dolly or any lifting. I've done this two different ways, both times using blankets and cardboard to protect the TV and make it easy to slide up the soft steps.

>>5975263
All good advice, weight distribution and protection are key. Use very dense pillows though, because a lot of regular old sleeping pillows condense down to almost nothing under heavy weight, and make sure the pillows don't affect the evenness of the weight distribution or make things so bouncy that any restraints come loose.

[Anonymous No.5975651]

>>5975263
>>5975376

Thank you, kind anons. The stairs do actually have runner carpeting. I might be overthinking the whole thing, but I basically just need to be as sure as possible that it's a task that can be completed with zero fuckups, as the consequences of such are not nearly worth having a bitchin' tube in my room.

And yes, unfortunately this house isn't mine and I live in it with other people who don't share my appreciation of vintage display technology so it's not gonna be able to live downstairs. Also, I don't really want to be gaming in a common space anyways because then I'm that weird roommate who's hanging out by himself at 1am in the living room playing playstation/watching shit all the time. My room is big enough to easily accomodate this set without having it dominate the room so it could be a pretty badass thing to have once I get over this hurdle.

Thanks for the tips, really.

[Anonymous No.5975780]

https://www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/comments/dnyyiw/crt_switchres_fried_my_pvm_help/

[Anonymous No.5975789]

>>5975127
aperture grille = brighter
shadow mask = sharper
slot mask = neither

[Anonymous No.5975850]

>>5975780
lol

[Anonymous No.5976562]

>>5975780
I don't really understand, what the hell was he trying to do?

[Anonymous No.5976702]

Do I need to worry about balanced/unbalanced audio when wiring my consoles? Does any console output balanced audio?

[Anonymous No.5976720]

>>5976702
No. Do you even know what balanced audio is?

[Anonymous No.5976740]

>>5976720
Roughly, sure. I just wanted to double check. I made my console av cables, so I know each console is only outputting to two conductors, a signal wire and a ground, and not the three that would be needed for a balanced signal. But I've heard talk about 1st gen playstations having really good sound quality and though that might be what was meant.
Plus, I have a couple of studio monitors I could put a balanced signal into so I figures I should check.

[Anonymous No.5976741]

>>5976740
*two conductors per left/right channel.

[Anonymous No.5976805]

>>5976740
Nah RCA isn't really capable of transferring balanced audio, not that it would matter unless your run is especially long or anything.

[Anonymous No.5976812]

>>5976805
Cool, thanks. I think the longest I'm going is 10' to one of the monitors.

[Anonymous No.5976821]

>>5964974
>there's the people who actually buy those 8" monitors
I'd buy one for shits, if it was for like 40 bucks or less, but only because I already have a 20" I got for free and it might be fun having a small PVM to daisy chain to, or maybe make a secondary setup with just an NES or SNES in another room or something. Sadly, so many people fell for the PVMeme that even the 5 to 8 inch units are climing in price.

[Anonymous No.5976831]

>>5976821
I've been considering picking up some 10" monitors. I know an old guy sitting in stacks of them. He offered me some at $20 for 1 or $10 apiece if I took 3 or more. I was picking up 3 20" from him when he made the offer so I wasn't really interested. Now I kind of want to go back and pick up a few. It might be funny to have a small monitor in literally every room.

[Anonymous No.5977097]

https://www.retrorgb.com/carby-component-cables.html
>Gamecube finally gets a new component cable
>$90

[Anonymous No.5977106]

>>5977097
I'm sort of amazed it's that cheap. Having a connector like that manufactured is expensive as hell for low volumes.

[Anonymous No.5977131]

>>5977097
>cost more than a pvm and extron crosspoint combined
Fuck that

[Anonymous No.5977267]

What do yall prefer, Composite for proper dither patterns or s-video/component/RGB for a higher quality signal? Do you have preferences based on the system?

[Anonymous No.5977276]

>>5977267
I prefer RGB across the board. I grew up playing on RF, though, so whatever.

[Anonymous No.5977283]

>>5977267
RGB 95% of the time, RF when I'm feeling especially nostalgic. Nothing in between if I can help it.

[Anonymous No.5977287]

>>5977267
VGA
RGBHV

[Anonymous No.5977309]

Does anyone have any tips for connecting a dreamcast to multiple monitors? Most of the monitors only do 240p/480i but one of them is a pc monitor thatll do 480p. The pc monitor has rgbhv bnc connectors on the back, so I could use that but as far as I know that would limit the monitor to 480i. Is that right or can I output the 31khz signal from the dreamcast av connector in to the monitor with rgbhv and get 480p? What complicates things is that I'd like to go in to different monitors, which I have a crosspoint for. The crosspoint has rgbhv connectors but the monitors will only take rgbs. I see that some people make cables with switches installed to go between 15khz and 31khz signals which I could install in a cable but that wouldn't help me go in to the rgbhv monitor as it won't take the pure sync.
Any tips?

[Anonymous No.5977369]

>>5977097
how much of that price is gouging and how much is actually from the parts

[Anonymous No.5977374]

>>5977369
It uses an fpga which isn't exactly cheap, but I mean they obviously leave themselves room for profit considering the time they took to engineer it. You're not upset McDonald's charges you a dollar for a drink when it only cost them a small fraction for the syrup do you?

[Anonymous No.5977381]

>>5977374
I understand all that. I was genuinely curious what tech was inside the cable. So it's an FPGA serving as a DAC?

[Anonymous No.5977382]

>>5977374
>You're not upset McDonald's charges you a dollar for a drink when it only cost them a small fraction for the syrup do you?
Well, yeah, if you’re not an idiot. Just because millions of people doesn’t make it gouging.

[Anonymous No.5977406]

>>5977381
The digital video stream is encrypted, and the FPGA is there to decrypt it. And I mentioned it before, but a connector like that is extremely expensive to make. The price could probably be cut by $15-20 if they'd gone with a 3D-printed connector instead.

[Anonymous No.5977431]

>>5960109
>>5964765
>>5964974
>And then there's the people who actually buy those 8" monitors. I'll never be able to understand that.
Hi.
I need advice. I know this thread is kinda old but hopefully you see this.
I saw this PVM (yes, only 8 inches, roughly 8x8x20, yes, 20 inches deep) for sale. Long story short I can get it for $25. It's listed for much more but the guy just needs it gone and accepted an offer for $25.
He has no way of testing video. I realized I have nothing that uses BNC connectors. What do I do?
Buy and bring a BNC to VGA adapter and try to use it with a PC as a test? Bring BNC to RCA and just hook it up with composite just for test (obviously if I bought it I would not be using composite, but I am an amerimutt and have nothing that outputs native RGB)?
And assuming the video does work and doesn't come out black and white or fucked up somehow, assuming I do buy it, what then?
The only consoles I have that might output RGB (after being modded, which is a whole different ballgame and waste of money/time) are the SNES and N64 which I already have S-Video for, and the Genesis which I already have composite for, which is admittedly garbage, but some games with the dithering look better with composite (see the classic sonic waterfalls / pipes on chemical plant zone examples, earthworm jim loading screens / ground, etc...)

So I'm kind of at an impasse. On the one hand I should buy it just to list it on Ebay for $100 + shipping, but I don't want to do that.
I already have VGA for my dreamcast. My Gamecube can use the N64 S-Video but I just use a modded Wii with component. What is the point of BNC connectors / RGB for me?
Can't get it from a NES.
I don't mean to sound like a negative jerk but I really don't know if I see the point. S-Video was already a huge jump in sharpness and color bleed for the N64 and only cost me about $3.50 - I'm not sure I want to take on the modding project for what seems to be a very small gain, especially on an 8 inch PVM.

[Anonymous No.5977434]

>>5973453
End of ninja gaiden 2.

[Anonymous No.5977436]

>>5971750
>comfy train simulator game
Nice.
Where are your speakers though?

[Anonymous No.5977438]

>>5977431
This is your brain on the meme.

[Anonymous No.5977464]

>>5974645
>>5973986
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjkQlR53u04
It's very good, very very good.
Not the greatest but fantastic still.
>>5974581
Agreed.

[Anonymous No.5977509]

>>5977431
Jesus christ, what are you even worried about, that an okay not particulalry good deal might get past you? Buying it and relisting it for more on ebay or CL is only going to fuck you in the end as it drives prices up for everyone, not just the retard that buys it from you.
its a novelty size of a novelty item. if you have any interest, just buy it and put it somewhere dumb as a gag.
if you already have svideo stuff, test with that ,you mong. that way you can verify that the monitor works. its not that complicated

[Anonymous No.5977537]

>>5977431

Bro

Just buy it or don't its $25 and as you've demonstrated, if you dont like it, some other idiot will be along to take it off your hands quick for EPIC 8 inch wide scanlines

[Anonymous No.5977651]

>>5977431
its going to bother you until you get it so you might as well, i fell for the meme myself a few years back and was in an almost identical situation. if you want my real advice though? find yourself a big consumer crt with a component port, you'll be way happier

[Anonymous No.5977713]

Does anyone have experience with Sanyo TVs and how they compare with others?

[Anonymous No.5977886]

>>5973127
>>5960862
Turtle Beach Headphones

[Anonymous No.5978221]

>>5977537
>EPIC 8 inch wide scanlines
It doesn't even have a scanline pattern, I watched a couple videos about it, it's got like a weird dot/star pattern.

[Anonymous No.5978224]

>>5977713
The only Sanyo I have is not a CRT but I actually like it a lot and have never had a problem with it.
>>5960979
oxymoron lol

[Anonymous No.5978251]

>>5977713
I have a Sears-branded Sanyo TV/RGBI monitor. It's not amazing, but it's okay.

[Anonymous No.5978323]

>convinced VGA CRT monitor is dead
>no amount of troubleshooting acknowledges input, using a Dreamcast to test
>give up, dumpster it
>pull Dell 2001FP out of storage as it scales 640x480 well
>no input
>multiple retries
>apparently this DC's video out jack is suddenly very touchy
>are you fucking shitting me
I did try a Pi with various output combinations as well but I can't help but wonder now. Still can't help but laugh about it

[Anonymous No.5978369]

>further testing reveals the PI SD card also failed
wellshit.jpg

[Anonymous No.5978371]

>>5978251
looks amazing to me
i have a sears LXI tape deck that is mediocre as fuck but your monitor looks nice

[Anonymous No.5978459]

>>5977309
Pls help

[Anonymous No.5978732]

>>5977309
>>5978459
People make Dreamcast AV boxes for this exact purpose. There are a number of different kinds with different features made by Berharbros, there's an official one made by Sega back in the day, I think there are others, too. Shop around and find the one right for you.

[Anonymous No.5978759]

>>5978459
are you tryin to dual screen it or what?

[Anonymous No.5978790]

>>5978759
Yes, potentially. I'd like the option to and since I'm currently setting up my crosspoint, I figure I should work all this out now.
I guess the real issue is that one monitor needs rgbhv while rest don't. So even if I use one of these boxes I've seen, im not sure it helps combine the sync to the monitors that don't need the h and v separately.
Hell, even if I'm not dual screening I'm not sure how I switch between monitors using only one cable.

[Anonymous No.5978876]

How much are RGB to YPbPr converters?

[Anonymous No.5978878]

>>5978371
It's not great for 80-column text, but it is legible at least. I suppose that's mostly due to it being a color monitor from the mid-'80s, though.

[Anonymous No.5978885]

>>5978876
~40-50 bucks

[Anonymous No.5978896]

>>5978876
$60 for a good one that doesn't require manual calibration.
https://www.retrotink.com/product-page/rgb2comp
Out of stock right now, but the guy said they should be back in stock in a few weeks.

[Anonymous No.5979190]

>>5977431
just fucking buy it you little pisspants, its 25 bucks and will hardly take up any space

[Anonymous No.5979328]

Guys, I'm using a R5 230 with a VGA to RGB (5 BNC) for connecting with my PVM and using retroarch. On windows I do this by using the csync option on VMMaker. My question is, how do I do the same on Linux?

[Anonymous No.5979768]

>>5979328
put csync at the end of the modeline instead of -hsync -vsync

[Anonymous No.5979771]

sharp cz-603d in 15khz mode

[Anonymous No.5979863]

>>5960031
I get a kind of blurred "copied" image on my monitor CRT, how could i fix this? its an ADI G1000 Microscan

[Anonymous No.5979884]

>>5960031
I know this isn't entirely retro but is playing something like the SNES Classic on a CRT using a converter feasible? Does it introduce input delay or is it fine?

[Anonymous No.5979973]

>>5979884
I'm sure it is considering Phonedork played BotW on his BVM

[Anonymous No.5980007]

>>5979884
Probably but why would you want to? A Wii works fine if you want to emulate snes games

[Anonymous No.5980085]

>>5980007
I enjoy the novelty of the SNES Classic and it's normie homescreen menu.

[Anonymous No.5980117]

>>5979884
It's 16:9 only

[Anonymous No.5980171]

Do anons have any experience with HDMI-composite adapters? I have a SNES mini because I grew up with SEGA stuff until the N64, was wondering if the HDMI to Composite will display decently (for composite) on my Trinitron, or if it is kinda shit (like Composite to HDMI inevitably ends up).

[Anonymous No.5980235]

>>5980171
would probably be 480i and look like shit at best

[Anonymous No.5980239]

>>5980235
Unfortunate, guess I will just borrow the SNES that the brother in law has.

[Anonymous No.5980558]

>>5979884
Possible but not really easy to get good results, simple solution is get a wii, does all the SD output types including proper 240p (and 288p) support, you can even use the SNES Classic's controllers, they plug into a wiimote.

[Anonymous No.5980648]

Are Kantanka CRTs any good? Thinking of picking one up.

[Anonymous No.5980662]

I have a JVC AV-36D501 and the screen looks like it's shifted to the right. Am I able to fix this in its service menu? Does anyone know how to access it?

[Anonymous No.5980663]

>>5980648
>made in Ghana
Do it and report back

[Anonymous No.5980665]

>>5980648
I've never even heard of that brand before. An African CRT? Didn't think Africans were even capable of creating things.

[Anonymous No.5980668]

>>5980662
Not the same model, but try:
>Press SLEEP TIMER key and, while the indication of "SLEEP TIMER 0 MIN." is being displayed, press DISPLAY key and VIDEO STATUS
key on the remote control unit simultaneously to enter the SERVICE MENU

[Anonymous No.5980683]

>>5980665
I don't think they were mass produced. Seems to be a "prototype" consisting of probably Chinese off-the-shelf parts. That particular model is the "Clapping TV". You can turn it on and off, change channels and adjust volume all by clapping.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aftk_bpRu0c

[Anonymous No.5980687]

>>5980683
that would be the most irritating TV of all-time

[Anonymous No.5980708]

>>5980687
Perhaps you'd prefer this breath operated model?
>Aside the proven durability of the TELEVISION, it has an in-built equalizer. On the flip side, Apostle Safo based the ideology and craft of making the TELEVISION on the story of creation. According to the book of Genesis, God breathed into man and he became a living soul. To activate or switch on Apostle Safo’s TELEVISION, all one needs to do is to breathe or blow air into it. Amazing, isn’t it? Upon switching on, the brand name “KANTANKA” is boldly displayed for the consumer to acknowledge its African roots.

>The TELEVISION also has good lighting system and high picture quality for optimum consumer enjoyment. It does not cease to amaze since it has innovative features to establish a cordial relationship with every customer. For instance, most TELEVISIONs are usually switched off by pressing either a button on the remote or on the TELEVISION set. After watching the Kantanka TELEVISIONs, all a consumer has to do is wave “bye-bye” at the machine and it goes off. It is not magic but the power of technology, made possible by Apostle Dr. Safo’s genius.

[Anonymous No.5981068]

What should I be looking for if i want to watch SD anime on a CRT? The wii unfortunetly framedrops.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32960646521.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.59e45d39gf7JXU&algo_pvid=44ca4f60-9ce4-4e89-aaa4-784bd20921c4&algo_expid=44ca4f60-9ce4-4e89-aaa4-784bd20921c4-4&btsid=d8ddb393-fb3d-4d52-84dd-9244064af492&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2,searchweb201603_55

[Anonymous No.5981095]

>>5981068
Ps3 + universal media server

[Anonymous No.5981175]

>>5980708
I want to send my greetings to Apostle Dr. Safo in recognition of his genius and accept his offer to transmit the majority of his inheritance to America using my bank account, assuming of course that I will be allowed to keep a large portion of the funds legitimately, per the Apostle's gracious and cordial assurances.

[Anonymous No.5981180]

>>5981068
VCR or laserdisc player

[Anonymous No.5981263]

>>5981068

PS3

[Anonymous No.5981274]

>>5981095
>>5981180
>>5981263
I'll see if thiis shit works for now. Got a thinkpad lying around.

[Anonymous No.5981691]

>>5981068
People are going to bitch about Memeberry but if you're only worried about composite you could use just about any Pi 3/4 with Kodi. You would need a GPIO hat for S-Vid/RGB/Component though.

[Anonymous No.5981779]

>>5981274
>graphoscope
>displayer

[Anonymous No.5981789]

What's a good capture card for taking live screenshots?

I don't care about streaming or video playback, just snapping pictures of curiosities and funny bits inside games.

[Anonymous No.5982025]

>>5981779
>>5981274
>HD playerr

[Anonymous No.5982039]

>have an ADI Microscan G1000
>PC never detects its correct resolution
>create resolutions on CRU
>image is slightly smeared to the right
how can i fix this? is the automatic CRT configuration on CRU not good for me?
or is it just wear and tear of the CRT?
any help is appreciated

[Anonymous No.5982095]

>ctrl-f PVM
>28 results found
how do you guys defend pic related
>>5977431
LMAOing at Your Life

[Anonymous No.5982098]

>>5978876
>>5978885
>>5978896
>>5979328
Pain.
I have a Samtron 17 inch CRT PC monitor with VGA and BNC connectors but if it's $60 just for a fucking cable, screw it.

[Anonymous No.5982140]

>>5982095
That's not a pvm issue, that's deciding to use rgb/component/s video instead of composite. I think for most part the benefit of s-video or better is worth it and it's only worth using composite for games that have heavy use of dithering.

[Anonymous No.5982172]

>>5982098
it's not just a cable though. it's an active colourspace transcoder.
>>5982095
how do you defend your stupidity? pvms take composite and s-video at the very least. they even lack a comb filter too so you'll get a purer, shittier composite signal.

[Anonymous No.5982212]

Had a dream Walmart started stocking CRTs again, except it was more like a massive thrift shop and not a Walmart at all. Sylvania brand.

I've been using a cheap 20" Sylvania from the early 2000s and it's actually decent. Good geometry and decent color. Want to replace it but it's getting harder and harder to find free/cheap high quality CRTs in my area. Getting worried that I'm missing the boat.

[Anonymous No.5982620]

>>5982212
Just become a hoarder

[Anonymous No.5982653]

Finally added some RCA jacks to my Master System today to tap RGB from.
Removed the RF modulator's PCB and used that RCA jack for exposing csync.
Lookin' good. That said, the composite video output on my Master System was already about 50x better than from my genesis (it's an early SMS that uses the Sony V7040 instead of the CXA1145 later ones used), so it was nowhere near as huge a jump as that was on my genesis.

[Anonymous No.5982667]

>>5982095
I don't care. I'd prefer more graphical quality, better colors and no rainbows over the occasional dithering blending

[Anonymous No.5982682]

>>5982653
Mod pic.
All those resistors are because I didn't have a 470 ohm one handy but had a full reel of 330 ohm and 75 ohm ones.
On my fluke meter they came up to 470.2 ohms. Not bad at all.
>>5982095
>how do you defend
By realizing that it's not the end of the universe, that dithering is a thing on most systems and this is just a form of dithering, and by recognizing that the overall improvement justifies noticing >dithering.

[Anonymous No.5982685]

rate my setup

[Anonymous No.5982687]

>>5982685
honestly? I like it.

[Anonymous No.5982691]

>>5982687
Thanks. I need to get a digital antenna, so the rabbit eats aren't just for show. No analogue broadcasts anymore.
Sorry for quality of the pic btw. My phones camera is a shit.

[Anonymous No.5982693]

>>5982685
The aesthetic's on point.
I have some personal objections to the paint color on the SNES, but if your shell was "tanning" unevenly or something I can totally understand it. I've thought about doing something to my SNES myself.

[Anonymous No.5982694]

>>5982691
you watch actual, television on one of these thing? not to be rude but are you from Brazil?

[Anonymous No.5982695]

>>5982682
Why not just use two 330 ohm resistors? Sync is digital, as long as it's between ~300-1000 mVpp it's fine.

[Anonymous No.5982698]

>>5982691
What phone?
If it's android based, try downloading OpenCamera, go to settings -> Photo settings, and try to run on "use camera2 API."
If that works, the next time you launch OpenCamera you should be able to use manual exposure controls.
Works on my Pixel 2 and Nexus 6.

[Anonymous No.5982703]

>>5982698
P.S.
If you do that and your phone supports the Camera2 API (most new ones do) you can also enable shooting with RAW images.

[Anonymous No.5982712]

>>5982693
>if your shell was "tanning" unevenly or something I can totally understand it
it was very yellowed, and cracked in some places. It's my SNES from when I was a kid, so when i went to pick it up from my parents house it was in pretty bad shape. Used some greenstuff to fix the cracks and just rattlecanned it. It turned out pretty decent imo though.
>>5982694
American. I used to watch broadcast tv on a black and white when I was a lad. It's just for novelty now though.
>>5982698
It's a Moto X4. Cheapest of the google phones.
I'll look into it though. I'm not much of a photographer, so I'm probably just doing something wrong. It's very possible the camera is fine and I'm a shit.

[Anonymous No.5982713]

>>5982695
Because I felt like making it exact and had the parts and was curious how close to 470 ohms I could get considering the manufacturing tolerances on ±5% resistors.
Translation: No good reason, just felt like it.

[Anonymous No.5982717]

>>5982712
>It turned out pretty decent imo though.
agreed.
I've spraypainted a couple keyboards, they didn't hold up as well because of my palms constantly resting on them. If I'd used automotive paint or something, part of me thinks it'd have fared better. It initially gave very nice results, though.
The top half of my snes is yellowing, but nowhere near as bad as the launch unit I picked up a while back. The case still isn't too brittle.
I have a U.S. launch revision playstation with a case so brittle that all the screw posts cracked and it's held together entirely with hot glue and prayers. It's my only launch revision unit, though, and it's one of the ones that used VRAM instead of the SGRAM later ones used and it has a vastly different GPU. Some games perform very differently (can be better and/or worse) on early units. Since I try to program for the PSX, it feels like it's important for me to have both kinds.
>Moto X4
Not too bad.
There's a chance it will support manual exposure settings with OpenCamera. Give it a go. Set it to 1/60 of a second (or 1/30 maybe) and 200-400 ISO. Set the color temperature to either "manual" and ~6500°K or to "daylight". Usually those work best for me, although I am using a different camera sensor obviously.

I also use a DSLR sometimes (Nikon D40), but of course that's pretty old and my only lenses aren't good for close-ups.

[Anonymous No.5982731]

>>5982717
I was worried the paint on the cart door would scrape off over time, but it's still unmarred. Cracking plastic cases make me want to mill out aluminum cases and sell them. Maybe in the future...

[Anonymous No.5982750]

>>5982653
Are you legitimately retatded? Master System has rgb out the av out. Fucks sake buy a cable or cable end instead of butchering original hardware.

[Anonymous No.5982753]

>>5982685
TV4ants/10, but cute.

[Anonymous No.5982759]

All PAL Snes consoles can do RGB right? What's the actual best cable for it?

[Anonymous No.5982769]

>PAL
avoid

[Anonymous No.5982772]

>>5982759
https://retro-access.com/collections/super-nintendo/products/pal-snes-csync-bnc-and-rca-cable-pro-coaxial-multicore-for-pvm-monitor

But also this >>5982769

[Anonymous No.5982778]

>>5982769
Avoid what? Getting RGB for it?

[Anonymous No.5982780]

>>5982750
This. If you know how to mod your console, then you have the technical knowhow to make an RGB cable.

[Anonymous No.5982781]

>>5982750
get fucked collectorfag. rca modding consoles is the bees knees and I wish more people would do it.

[Anonymous No.5982782]

>>5982778
Avoid PAL.

[Anonymous No.5982787]

>>5982782
Yes, I would avoid being a yuropoor if I could.

[Anonymous No.5982824]

>>5960031
Just got the s video for my original xbox. My autism is satisfied

[Anonymous No.5983045]

>>5982824
based

[Anonymous No.5983089]

>>5982781
Poor emufag detected. Apparently having your childhood console and calling out retards is collectorfagging. Listen dipshit, a collectorfag would praise destructive mods as it makes theirs more valuable. If your gonna call them out, at least understand their mindset.

[Anonymous No.5983131]

This is Bulgy the Back Pain, our new mascot of CRT threads.

[Anonymous No.5983207]

>>5983131
Lift with your back and don't move your CRT every 10 minutes, then.
>>5983089
>My console is a childhood console that I have strong attachments to
>Therefore, everyone's console is a childhood console with strong attachments
Also, I had a pikachu edition GBA SP when I was around 15, added a headphone jack. No regrets.

[Anonymous No.5983216]

>>5982781
Thanks. Good to know there are some non-hyper-autists here.
>>5982780
Knowledge, yeah. Willingness to buy DIN connectors and the cable parts to make them for each and every console and computer I own, not so much. Adding more outputs is usually simple by comparison, and leaves plenty of room to add any necessary components.
>>5982750
>can't spell 'retarded'
>butchering
Mine already wasn't in perfect cosmetic condition, even as would be seen from the front. So something you can't really see from the front didn't bother me too much.

[Anonymous No.5983221]

>>5983216
P.S.
I wrote this up once before, but my browser crashed. Forgot to mention that if you were to make this externally, you'd need to carry +5V through the cable to buffer the sync signal, quite probably introducing noise into the audio.
Just solves a lot of problems doing it this way.

[Anonymous No.5983226]

>>5983221
Oh, and the other thing:
Removing the RF modulator PCB also reduces noise, and it could make the system run a little bit cooler (though I cannot really verify this, since I don't know how much current it'd draw compared to the 74LS08 I added).

[Anonymous No.5983464]

>>5983089
I'm not a sentimental retard for consumerist crap. There's millions of consoles just like the ones I used as a child.

[Anonymous No.5983546]

>>5982039
Ghosting to the right indicates an impedance mismatch somewhere. Either a shitty cable or worn out circuitry.

[Anonymous No.5983582]

>>5983546
is that fixable without electrocuting myself to death?

[Anonymous No.5983614]

>>5980668
It worked. Messed around with the settings. What do you have for your picture settings?

[Anonymous No.5983880]

>>5981789
Any, really. Dscaler-compatible cards are best for analog video sources so any that still work with it would be my recommendation.

[Anonymous No.5984105]

>>5982685
RCA is one of the few brands I tend to actively talk shit about, but your setup is adorable, so whatevs.

[Anonymous No.5984230]

>>5982685
Teal walls are an immediate -100. Do you live in a slum in India or the Philippines?

-10 for tacky lamps

-10 for shitty SNES paint job

-10 for Fisher Price VHS

-10 for aftermarket youtuber display case for game

-10 for bargain bin Walmart CRT

So all in all, -150.

[Anonymous No.5984291]

>>5984230
>Teal walls are an immediate -100.
Seems harsh. It's my kids room, with a sorta jungle theme. I like the walls, but to each their own I guess.
>-10 for tacky lamps
My wife made that for my kid. The other is hers from her childhood.
>-10 for shitty SNES paint job
Fair, but it looks better than the cracked yellow imo.
>-10 for Fisher Price VHS
yah, but it matches the TV. plus when you press play it shows a little animation of a rabbit on a skateboard.
>-10 for aftermarket youtuber display case for game
Fair enough, but it came with the game for pretty much no cost.
>-10 for bargain bin Walmart CRT
Also fair. It was pretty much the cheapest one.
The setup is ostensibly for my kid, but she's shy in age of being able to use it just yet. So I use it to play mostly Yoshi's island atm.

Any suggestions for good VHS tapes for kids? We have the original star wars trilogy and Indiana Jones trilogy atm.

[Anonymous No.5984339]

Does ps2 look better through component or rgb?

[Anonymous No.5984341]

>>5984339
Most people say it's negligible. The difference between component and RGB is going to be completely eclipsed by the amount of wear on your tube, anyway.

[Anonymous No.5984354]

>>5983582
absolutely not. a crt is probably the most dangerous thing in anybodies house.

[Anonymous No.5984373]

>>5984354
Caps are easy to replace tho.

[Anonymous No.5984396]

>>5984373
they can hold thousands of different voltages for years though. cross your soldering iron over the leads and you're dead.

[Anonymous No.5984527]

>>5984354
Nah, microwaves and women are far deadlier.

>>5984396
Anyone who removes a cap without discharging it through a high power resistor first deserves the Darwin award. Power supply caps in CRTs are not to be trifled with though. They're far FAR more dangerous than the anode lead boogeyman everyone shits their pants over.

[Anonymous No.5984687]

>>5984396
If your soldering iron's handle is conductive, you're doing something extraordinarily wrong.

[Anonymous No.5984919]

>>5984527
Yep, discharge and you're pretty good.
Also most good soldering stations have the irons themselves grounded and have well-insulated handles.
>>5984527
>Nah, microwaves and women are far deadlier.
Kek.
>>5981789
>what capture card
Any of them.
Most will interlace though, so if you want to get 60fps/240p out of them you have to do a little shuffling. ffmpeg can make pretty much any capture card's output into 240p.
Since my card captures at 720x480i, this on the ffmpeg command line gets me progressive 60fps video. If yours captures 640x480i, you should use "setdar=4/3" instead.
-vf "setfield=tff,separatefields,scale=720x480:flags=neighbor,setdar=3/2"
My full command line (I run linux, windows users will need to use directshow instead of v4l2; see https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/DirectShow.. Also https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Capture/Webcam for more info on why I did what I did):
fmpeg -y -thread_queue_size 1024 -f v4l2 -i "$VIDEODEVICE" -thread_queue_size 1024 -f alsa -i "$AUDIODEVICE" -vf "setfield=tff,separatefields,scale=720x480:flags=neighbor,setdar=3/2" -vcodec libx264 -crf 19 -acodec libfdk_aac -ab 128k "$OUTFILE"
In my case, the devices are:
VIDEODEVICE=/dev/video0
AUDIODEVICE=hw:2,0 (if you use pulseaudio you will need to use the pulse input instead of alsa)
My card is an old Roxio "Easy VHS to DVD," which uses the same chipset as the Ezcap DC60+ – the Empia EM2861. Under windows, I have used it in WinXP through Windows 8, and it might have drivers for 10. There are linux drivers built into the kernel, so no installation needed there. Mac OS is out of luck. Dual boot linux or run it in a VM.
>>5983582
Yes. Don't listen to other anon, video inputs are usually 1 volt at low current. First just try other cables if yours isn't fixed in place.
Else, try another system's VGA output before trying to replace the old cable.
If you have to you can replace the cable even if it is fixed without hurting yourself, if you only mess w/ the cable.

[Anonymous No.5984930]

>>5984919
composhit capture from ages ago on sega cd

[Anonymous No.5984938]

>>5984527
I just pop my screwdriver on that bad boi with a good ground wire wrapped around it. Sometimes she pops sometimes she dont. In all seriousness though this is a solid solution. Tack a ground cable to a LONG thick plastic handle screwdriver. Plug it up and discharge. It’s what professionals have always done and it makes working on it all perfectly safe

[Anonymous No.5984947]

>>5984930
Older capture of SNES, before i figured out how to get proper 240p out. S-video though. using a shit aftermarket cable.

[Anonymous No.5984950]

>>5984938
I use a binder clip to hold the wire on my screwdriver

[Anonymous No.5984997]

>>5984950
>>5984938
picture of what you are talking about?

[Anonymous No.5985021]

>>5984947
That has the wrong aspect ratio.

[Anonymous No.5985071]

anyone have an explanation for this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/comments/dpwivq/a_friend_of_mine_got_this_sony_kv21fa310_and_the/

[Anonymous No.5985104]

>>5985071
south american monkey doesn't know what moire is I guess.

[Anonymous No.5985124]

>>5985104
:o

[Anonymous No.5985496]

>>5985071
Low TVL screens often have that look.
It's fine.
>>5984997
Sure. It's an old pic though.
>possible malicious code in image file
nigga I am running debian and cropped this picture using gimp
>changed compression setting
>A O Fucking Kay

[Anonymous No.5985497]

>>5985021
>Wrong ratio
>Put pic in gimp
>crop the black padding off
>640x480, 4:3
Wow, look at that, you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.5985503]

>>5982824
You have a slight color purity problem in bottom left corner.

[Anonymous No.5985519]

>>5985496
do you put a resistor on that wire anywhere or just clamp it to the screwdriver and go?

[Anonymous No.5985525]

>>5985519
A resistor would be nice, if you have a really high wattage one just sitting around.
Personally I have done it without a resistor. For the anode at least.

For capacitors you may also be able to get away with a screwdriver, especially if you don't necessarily need to use it as a screwdriver when you're done (it might be weakened, by being repeatedly arc welded to capacitor leads. Or it may be fine, IDK). I'd still recommend a bleeder resistor but it may not be necessary if you're sure it's well insulated.

[Anonymous No.5985528]

>>5985525
>bleeder resistor

pic? never seen one in action

[Anonymous No.5985532]

>>5985528
a bleeder resistor is just a normal resistor, being used as a load so that all the power in a capacitor doesn't get discharged instantly.

They're usually rather large normal resistors, so they can hold up to a lot of heat.

[Anonymous No.5985535]

>>5985532
>>5985528
P.S.
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/138881/how-to-properly-discharge-a-high-voltage-capacitor

[Anonymous No.5985564]

>>5985497
The moon is not a circle, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.5985569]

>>5985564
Friendly reminder the aspect ratio of the SNES is 8:7 anyway, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.5985571]

>>5985564
>ffmpeg -sws_flags neighbor -vf scale=640:480

[Anonymous No.5985573]

>>5985569
Learn the difference between pixel aspect ratio, storage aspect ratio and display aspect ratio, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.5985574]

>>5985573
>>5985571
>ignoring the somewhat intelligent response in favor of the troll

[Anonymous No.5985653]

>>5985564
it's funny how differently this sentence reads when not using the contracted form of is not. it almost seems like you're telling him that the moon is indeed not a circle

[Anonymous No.5985660]

So guys, remember when we talked about CRT's in this thread?

[Anonymous No.5985694]

>>5985660
Been here for like three years and I remember when we talked about a lot of different things. There's been a bunch of a different shifts in general topics but I think the growing interest in the retro gaming hobby has contributed to a downgrade in quality of people in the hobby.

[Anonymous No.5985727]

>>5985694
trinitron?

[Anonymous No.5985730]

>>5985727
yes, a g520 doing 1920x240

[Anonymous No.5985737]

>>5985730
why such a weird res?

[Anonymous No.5985751]

Found a 37 inch JVC with component on a local letgo.
Wish I had a space for it. It's way too fucking big compared to the 20inch Sony I've got now. Nowhere to put it.

[Anonymous No.5985757]

>>5985737
it's some weird shit to do with the non-standard horizontal resolutions used by some consoles and games. it leads to less scaling issues if you do it this way.

[Anonymous No.5985758]

>>5984291
buy my disney collection on ebay

[Anonymous No.5985759]

>>5985737
here's another pic

[Anonymous No.5985775]

>>5985759
>>5985694
this is really cool spacing

[Anonymous No.5985776]

>>5985775
I'm glad you think so. Personally I find it tiresome to look at and it makes my eyes hurt. This pic is the same monitor but using a composite filter. This looks much nicer to me. Normally I just use a wii on an SD TV though.

[Anonymous No.5985849]

240p test suite is pretty cool

[Anonymous No.5986185]

>>5985751
Maybe post a link and someone else might live nearby.

[Anonymous No.5986187]

>>5985758
Post link.
We're actually getting some Disney VHS tapes from my mother in law...

[Anonymous No.5986214]

>>5963696
It's neither of those. The FV series have a front s-video jack.

[Anonymous No.5986215]

>>5985849
Where can I find this, is there a SNES rom version of it that I can load on my Pi

don't laugh at me

[Anonymous No.5986258]

>>5986215
lakka will let you download it and every other console version of it right from the online updater menu

[Anonymous No.5986724]

>>5985776
>makes my eyes hurt
That's why I don't like my 20L5.

[Anonymous No.5986728]

>>5986215
https://sourceforge.net/projects/testsuite240p/files/SNES_SFC/

[Anonymous No.5986739]

I'm looking at a KV13TR24 that I could get tomorrow. Is that size good? 13 inch?

[Anonymous No.5986752]

>>5986739
>KV13TR24
no

[Anonymous No.5986756]

>>5986752
what's the issue? too small? shit connections?

[Anonymous No.5986760]

>>5986756
I have two 13" trintrons and I love them, the only problem with this set is that it appears to be RF only, which looks fine for television is less than desirable for your retro consoles

[Anonymous No.5986764]

>>5986756
>>5986760
wait, I was looking at the wrong thing, looks fine anon, composite looks fine on a set of this size. don't spend more than 10 bucks

[Anonymous No.5986767]

>>5986760
aw fuck. I thought I saw a yellow on there ..
>>5986764
it's 65$...

[Anonymous No.5986789]

>>5965139
Sony audio sucks, though.

[Anonymous No.5986809]

NEW THREAD
>>5986805 N
>>5986805 E
>>5986805 W
NEW THREAD

[Anonymous No.5986832]

>>5983216
Nice work. I went with RGB out on mine, as it already supports it out of the box, but I did do component RCA jacks on my NES, and it's awesome. Pic related.

[Anonymous No.5986846]

>>5983216
Idiots complaining about butchering hardware are thinking about it all wrong. If I never intend to sell a console, then nothing of value is lost to the community, or pool of nice consoles on the market.

I'll mod the system for my own use, and it'll stay in my possession forever.

[Anonymous No.5986886]

>>5986832
Replied in
>>5986879 (on new thread)

[Anonymous No.5986914]

>>5986215
pic was of the snes version

[Anonymous No.5987068]

>>5960041
Where's that? They're all over CL.