/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5952958]

What are good shmups for a noob to start out with that aren’t punishingly hard.

[Anonymous No.5952963]

>>5952958
doodoopoopy

[Anonymous No.5952969]

gradius 3

[Anonymous No.5952976]

Einhander. I suck at shmups, but I can still beat that game.

[Anonymous No.5952990]

Emulate them all and stick to what you liked the most

[Anonymous No.5952994]

>>5952969
lel
Lifeforce for NES.

[Anonymous No.5953256]

>>5952958
Tyrian 2000

awesome story, tons of humor, incredible music, epic customization.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4brdwe3UIM

[Anonymous No.5953314]

Border Down with an arcade stick.

[Anonymous No.5953321]

Non-sarcastic answer: Fire Shark.

The weapons are very op.

[Anonymous No.5953332]

>>5952958
Gun-Nac

[Anonymous No.5953415]

>>5952958
Einhander

Parodius

Fire shark

Strikers 1945 II on anything below normal (it has a monkey difficulty lol)

[Anonymous No.5953417]

>>5953415
Forgot to say that Einhander JP has some menus stylistically in english and features a 'free' difficulty where you have infinite tries.

[Anonymous No.5953448]

>>5952958
Harmful Park
Ikaruga
Gradius 3
Viewpoint
Mars Matrix

All of these games are fairly easy, very enjoyable and just flat out fun. Viewpoint is the hardest of the bunch but is a really one of a kind game.

[Anonymous No.5953714]

>>5952958
Google "Japanese shmup difficulty list."
Pick something under 13 rated. The higher the number the harder.

[Anonymous No.5953742]

>people always saying how r-type is the most beginner friendly
>mfw usually dont get further than first level while I have no problem with other shmups

[Anonymous No.5953756]

>>5953742
Who says this? R-Type isn't very beginner friendly, it has brutal checkpoint recovery and very strict memorization based gameplay, particularly in the latter half. You really can't die from the 4th stage onwards, the last 3 checkpoints of the game are practically unrecoverable. It's not that hard overall, but it's a rough starting point for sure. Gradius Gaiden is a much better pick

[Anonymous No.5953778]

>>5952976
Me too, but that's because you're given 9 continues with like 3 stocks each

[Anonymous No.5954002]

>>5952958
G-DARIUS!!

Download for windows
(Works on win 10)

https://www.myabandonware.com/game/g-darius-cjj

Also has a Playstation port.

[Anonymous No.5954079]

>>5953256
I second this. Works great on Dosbox and is free afaik.

Another Dosbox option is Raptor: Call of Shadows.

[Anonymous No.5954160]

>>5952958
thunder force 3

[Anonymous No.5954161]

>>5953756
I fucking hate it when shmups pull that bullshit. Another one that takes this to the extreme is Hellfire on Genesis. You lose all your weapon and speed upgrades when you die, and it uses a checkpoint system. So if you die you start off weak and slow as shit at a checkpoint right before a difficult situation/boss and you just end up dying over and over until you run out of lives because you can never ever recover back to decent speed/power.

[Anonymous No.5954436]

>>5952958
the one on the nokia 3300's

[Anonymous No.5954446]

>>5954161
It can be an annoyance and is fairly common in older shmups, though as long as the checkpoints are balanced and not insane like late checkpoints in R-Type recoveries can be really exciting. But yes half the time you're better off just restarting the game and going for a no death run than bashing your head trying to recover in some brutal spots

[Anonymous No.5954851]

>>5952958
Define "punishingly hard". If you feel you should be entitled to beating a game after x amount of tries then every shmup worth playing would be punishingly hard.

I've 1CC'd a fair number of shmups in my days, R-Type included, and all my faves are games I've never beaten.

[Anonymous No.5954890]

>>5953448
Mars Matrix is probably NOT a game to recommend to somebody fresh into shmups as a whole. It's a good pick for someone generally but not intensively versed in the genre, though, for adapting to thread-the-needle style gameplay.

[Anonymous No.5954938]

Star Soldier: Vanishing Earth for the N64

Very easy going vertical shooter, I remember having a fairly good time as an 11 year old. Enemies take a while to take down because of the game's slow scaling powerups, but their patterns are extremely lenient.

[Anonymous No.5955025]

>>5952958
mushihimesama futari

[Anonymous No.5955031]

>>5952958
arrow flash & aero blasters are doable for those new to the genre

[Anonymous No.5955192]

>>5952958
stick to console shooters

lot of pc engine shooters are on the easy side, especially for a 1cc

some ports on pce are a lot easier too, such as Galaga 88 and Atomic Robo Kid

[Anonymous No.5955203]

Tiger-Heli

[Anonymous No.5957146]

>>5953256
The campaign mode is amazing. All the secret stuff you can find (including secret levels), the incredible ship/weapon customization, the special weapons, the moves you can do with a ship to activate some special ability, the hidden bits of humor scattered throughout the datacubes etc. It's impressively meaty.
Tyrian is probably the only shmup I've ever played that feels like it was made from the ground up to meet the average expectations of PC player audiences, rather than a port for a coin-op timewaster.

[Anonymous No.5958015]

Touhou 8 Imperishable Night has an easy mode where you are not locked out of getting the good ending

[Anonymous No.5958016]

>>5957146
It's all quantity, no quality. Would be surprised if any single player put more than 30 hours into that piece of shit in total desu

[Anonymous No.5958027]

>>5953778
I mean, anon didn't asked for HOW a shmup is hard, he just wants an easy one.

[Anonymous No.5958076]

>>5958016
are we talking about the same game? Tyrian is all quality. I have yet to see any other shmup that has this level of detail in the equipment, plot, ships, locations. everything has a story behind it.

[Anonymous No.5958510]

>>5954851
I think a game that's punishingly hard would be something like Gradius, where one stray bullet can completely fuck your entire run if it hits you after a bad checkpoint.

[Anonymous No.5958618]

>>5958076
It even comes with a free game. Just type 'destruct' in the main menu.

[Anonymous No.5958638]

>>5958076
Equipment's unbalanced wank, ships look ugly and have crap attacks and behaviors, locations are completely uninspired with no interesting landmarks and stock themes, doubt you played the game for more than 20 hours 2bh

[Anonymous No.5958839]

>>5958015
How good is touhou?

[Anonymous No.5958871]

>>5952969
SNES version with the SA-1 patch.

[Anonymous No.5958952]

>>5958871
snes version is too casualised

[Anonymous No.5959065]

>>5958839
All the Touhou games could as well have been churned out by some randomizer script (both gameplay and lore) but autists who only plays bullet hells on keyboard eat that shit up.

[Anonymous No.5959268]

>>5952958
Raiden, all of them. (Top down > side scrolling imo)

[Anonymous No.5959273]

Figured this would be the best thread to ask. Why have Trouble Shooter for Sega Genesis skyrocketed in value? I picked it up for 10 - 15 dollars about 7 years ago, now it's like 60 - 80 dollars depending on condition. Why?

[Anonymous No.5959967]

>>5959273
Demand went up. Maybe someone made it more popular. It happens.

[Anonymous No.5960071]

>>5953756
Well I'm reasonably sure I saw some people here say it.

[Anonymous No.5960114]

>>5960071
>someone on 4chan said it so it must be true
Look, no one would seriously claim a memorizer is beginner friendly, especially not one that relies on a gimmick such as the detachable force pod.

[Anonymous No.5961318]

Pokky and rocky

[Anonymous No.5961336]

[Anonymous No.5961338]

>>5952958
Star Fox

[Anonymous No.5961765]

>>5952958
Try some of the really early shmups. Around the mid 1980s they started designing games to stump the hardcore jap masters of previous shmups, then later games had to be harder than that, and so on.

Don't play touhou unless you like wasting your time getting good at amateur-made jankware.