/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5943505]

Don't mind me just posting the best build engine game

[Anonymous No.5943641]

No doubt about it.

[Anonymous No.5944015]

You're not wrong.
It's not perfect, but unless you really like duke nukem, Blood is better. Blood at least waited before it pulled out the flying enemies that can go transparent.

[Anonymous No.5944071]

>>5943505
I've tried playing it more than a few times and honestly, Blood just sucks.

[Anonymous No.5944309]

>>5943505
Blood is fucking shit. Mediocre level design, mostly bad weapons, and annoying enemies. Protag isn't as funny as Douk or shadow warrior guy either.

[Anonymous No.5944359]

>>5944309
>Protag isn't as funny as Douk or shadow warrior guy either.
While your post is just baiting for (You)s this is actually a valid complaint. Caleb has a good voice actor but all of his dialogue is just "totally epic references brooooo". Dick Kickem suffers a similar thing but to a much, much, much lesser extent. Lo Wang is all original and amusing but Shadow Warrior is the worst Build game by far.

[Anonymous No.5945043]

>>5944015
What do you mean?
DN3D let you go an entire episode before they brought them out.

[Anonymous No.5945045]

/vr/ blood mappack when

[Anonymous No.5945074]

>best build engine game
eh
it's like saying "the fastest snail in the race"
Like the other thread said, build engine games mostly sold themselves on humor and shock value

[Anonymous No.5945086]

>>5945074
this. Doom is the only fps worth your time.

[Anonymous No.5945104]

>>5945086
-Doom 2
-Daggerfall
-Quake (and 3 dont @me)
and most importantly
-ultima underworld is a lot of fun :D

also System Shock, but that doesnt count because I was only able to into it with the Steam version that makes it easy for WASD zoomers

[Anonymous No.5945167]

Do any of you play on extra crispy? I played fresh supply a couple of time on well done (first time ever playing blood) and it just kept kicking my ass. Kinda wish there was a difficulty between them. do i just git gud? aslo fuck jannies and nigs

[Anonymous No.5945186]

>>5945167
Extra Crispy is supposed to be played in coop.
Stop falling for the "hardest possible difficulty or bust" meme.

[Anonymous No.5945250]

>>5945074
except blood is actually fun

>>5945186
don;t worry it will kick your ass in co-op as well, unless you're somehow manage to play it on a LAN

[Anonymous No.5945296]

>>5945045
if it's anything like the one for quake, hopefully never

[Anonymous No.5945312]

>>5945074
Doom and especially Quake sold themselves on their tech rather than the game itself.

>>5945086
Blood and Douk play a hundred times better than Doom no matter how many mods you stuff in them.

>>5945104
Doom 2 is worse than Doom 1 and what you mean is WADS, not the absolute shit pile that basegame Doom 2 is.
>Quake
>all weapons feel terrible to use
>all enemies barring the Shambler are forgettable
>every map is brown

[Anonymous No.5945323]

>>5945312
>Doom and especially Quake sold themselves on their tech
You're saying this like it's a bad thing. There's advancements in the underlying technology, rather than just relying on adding more blood(heh) and fart jokes to the presentation.

[Anonymous No.5945359]

>>5945323
My point is that whilst Doom is still good on its own if we disregard the tech breakthrough, Quake isn't, its a complete whatever of a game built around a revolutionary new engine. Douk and Blood feel and play much better.

[Anonymous No.5945379]

>>5943505
Hell yeah. I think Duke3d edges out Blood in the end but what a good fucking time for FPS games.

[Anonymous No.5945381]

>>5945312
Fiends are the most memorable Quake enemies imo. Zombies are memorable too. But I agree otherwise.

[Anonymous No.5945389]

>>5945379
every weapon except the shrinker duke has, blood does better
every endlessly repeated pig cop and enforcer is replaced by the bane of casuls the hitscan cultist who are actually fun to fight and have much much better sound design

(some of) Lee Jackson's music is the only place Douk edges out slightly, Blood's CD audio is pretty damn good even if there's only 8 tracks and 6 of them are repeated infinitely

[Anonymous No.5945394]

>>5944359
Douk steals Roddy Piper's and other pro wrestling lines
Calbe steals army of darkness and the crow lines, except with better delivery than the originals

[Anonymous No.5945432]

>>5945312
>Doom 2 is garbage
You're the same faggot that says Quake 2 is garbage despite Doom 2 and Quake 2 having user content that far outstripped the retail package. Quake 2 multiplayer was leagues better than Quake 1's and you saw a ton of user shit make its way into Quake 3.

[Anonymous No.5945434]

>>5945394
Lo Wang had the best lines, fight me.

[Anonymous No.5945438]

>>5945389
Fighting cultists aren't fun. They're incredibly unfun to fight, period.

[Anonymous No.5945448]

>>5945438
they're fun to fight because their AI is semi-intelligent, ducking to avoid a shotgun blast, strafing to avoid machine gun fire, throwing bundles of TNT semi-randomly but at times so successfully to give the impression of intelligence
they're fucking dangerous and if you don't reduce them to thin red paste as soon as you see them, they're gonna do the same to you

some mad lad on the dev team also made up an entire fake language for them, and they have great voice lines and especially the screaming

2 pallete swaps of the same robed guy (or 4 in plasma pak and death wish) are a better enemy than anything in duke 3D, fucking fight me

[Anonymous No.5945452]

>>5945434
Lo Wang was stealing Big Trouble in Little China lines (great film, go watch it) and spouting complete nonsense
I quote him occasionally, especially paraphrasing the "ancient chinese secret"

[Anonymous No.5945457]

>>5945452
Caleb stole more Big Trouble lines
>son of a bitch must pay
I honestly can't remember any Big Trouble lines in Shadow Warrior.

[Anonymous No.5945458]

>>5945457
Caleb is stealing Kurt Russel's lines
Wang is NAMED after the real protagonist of the film
Pretty sure a few of Victor Wong's lines made it into SW

[Anonymous No.5945460]

>>5945457
>>5945458
Lo Wang says "It's all in the reflexes" and that's it as far as I know. Which is a Kurt Russel line, same as "son of a bitch must pay".

[Anonymous No.5945464]

>>5945458
Also, Lo Wang is not Dennis Dun's character. He plays Wang Chi. James Hong plays Lo Pan.

[Anonymous No.5945472]

>>5945460
Caleb also uses the reflexes line, at least it's in the game files

>>5945464
you got a character named Wang and a character named Lo Pan, put them together and you get Lo Wang

[Anonymous No.5945474]

>>5945472
That's a reference and not a "line".
>>5945452

[Anonymous No.5945481]

>>5945474
I'm not as familiar with shadow warrior, sorry
Lo Wang has a few good lines but the rest are just nonsensical or just terrible jokes

[Anonymous No.5945482]

>>5945481
>i'm not familiar with shadow warrrior
>few good lines rest are terrible
Maybe play the game instead of watching an e-shill bitch about racism.

[Anonymous No.5945484]

>>5945482
I had to look up a list of quotes
>play the game
I would if Redux didn't suck
played the DOS version wayback when windows had native DOS support

[Anonymous No.5945486]

>>5945432
Im not because i've never played Quake 2 so I cannot be a judge on it.
Doom 2 basegame is bad. The fan wads and Plutonia are great but that isn't credit that the basegame deserves.

[Anonymous No.5945489]

>>5945486
>>5945432
>quetoo better than QW
lol

[Anonymous No.5945490]

>>5945489
Quake Wars? Nigga that came out in 07

[Anonymous No.5945496]

>>5945490
quakeWORLD you underage b&

[Anonymous No.5945503]

>>5945496
Quake2 multiplayer was better and had better mods.
>underage b&
Projecting projections. No one alive and playing games at the time thinks Quake was better than Quake 2.

[Anonymous No.5945510]

>>5945503
>Projecting projections. No one alive and playing games at the time thinks Quake was better than Quake 2.
that's why quakeworld has more players today than quake 3, forget 2

[Anonymous No.5945525]

>>5945510
It has more players because it's a handful of people playing deathmatch. Quake 2 and Quake 3 were both better multiplayer, there are just other games to play now that do what they did better. No one gives a shit about deathmatch anymore, which is why all the games hyping up deathmatch fail spectacularly.

[Anonymous No.5945583]

>>5945438
MODERN ARTS AND FEARBOOKS

[Anonymous No.5945637]

>>5945525
sorry sonny old jim, current battle royal fad is pure FFA deathmatch

Q2 added CTF which was already modded for QW, Q3 added fuck all unless you count team arena

[Anonymous No.5945647]

>>5945637
>quake 2 only added CTF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4D3jwSYpEc

[Anonymous No.5945667]

>>5945647
yes it only added CTF, you fuckwit

[Anonymous No.5945678]

>>5945667
Also added 64 player servers, bigger maps, more gameplay modes, more skins, lewd skins, better everything.
>>5945503
>mods
I can always tell when a faggot kid who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground shits on Quake 2 because they don't know shit about shit about the modding scene surrounding Quake 2 and how, with mods, 2 blew 1 completely away.

[Anonymous No.5945704]

>>5945104
>WASD zoomers
wat
Do you move with the arrow keys or something, you hipster faggot?

[Anonymous No.5945776]

>blood thread
>quake autists arguing

[Anonymous No.5945784]

>>5945678
>because they don't know shit about shit about
lol. nice going retard
>>5945776
it was never a blood thread to begin with. every FPS thread is about quake, and it will always be that way

[Anonymous No.5945794]

>>5945704
>he doesn't know
bruh

or you can move with the mouse of course

[Anonymous No.5945836]

>>5945794
>SXZC
Ah, so you're purposefully trying to be an unique snowflake by choosing an old fashioned control scheme instead of a perfected one.
>you can also move with the mouse
top kek

[Anonymous No.5945850]

>>5945836
just go play DOS SShock without the mouse look mod and send me a post card, faglord
not even the fag you're having a faggy argument with, faggot
you may call nme factfag, and here's a fact for you: you're a faggot from a long line of faggots, your father was a faggot, as was his father before him

[Anonymous No.5945940]

>>5945704
no, you fucking retard
Do you have any reading comprehension at all?
Go fucking read it again, I aint gonna explain it to you.

[Anonymous No.5945951]

>>5945940
Sneed.

[Anonymous No.5945958]

like every shitty 2d fps, play the first episode and be done with it

[Anonymous No.5945967]

>>5945958
but the best blood episode is the 3rd one though

[Anonymous No.5945984]

>>5945967
That's not how you spell 2nd

[Anonymous No.5946002]

>>5943505
These boomer shooters have aged like milk. Go play something actually fun like Halo.

[Anonymous No.5946005]

>>5945967
mebbe, mebbe
HOWEVER

E3M6 Monster Bait

[Anonymous No.5947458]

>>5943505
Wha- You shoot the corpse to get that secret holy hell. Stuck on getting %100 for that level