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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>5929352

Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~


Doom, Quake, Duke, Marathon, or Thief:
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
More /vr/ shooters
Doom Shovelware

Doom RPG series

Launchers for Build Engine games



Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/








>> No.5937008

=== ONGOING ===

/vr/ Heretic Mapping Project
-Currently looking for mappers, testers, and anyone else who can help.
-Project Discord server: https://discord.gg/BBPnHM8

=== NEWS ===

[10-8] Bury My Heart Knee Deep finished.

[10-8] Doom Eternal delayed until March 20, 2020

[10-2] Bobby Prince suing Greasy Bastard over unpaid royalties from DN3D World Tour

[10-1] Some new Hexen maps

[9-30] Kaiser developing a ROTT source port

[9-29] AMC TC v3.6 released, supports OpenGL

[9-29] DBP17 mapping to start next month, with an Aliens or horror theme

[9-29] Yet another beta release for Colorful Hell

[9-27] Night Time Terror, 6 map demo

[9-27] Doom Delta v2.2 preview

[9-26] Masters of Doom television series casts Carmack and Romero

[9-26] Bloodicide, 8 levels for GZDoom has updated

[9-23] Gameplay mod Supercharge released

=== PREVIOUS ===


== PROTIP ==

To submit news, please reply and anchor it to this post.

>> No.5937016
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>> No.5937032

>Doom Eternal delayed until March 20, 2020

Are you fucking shitting me?


>> No.5937036

>get on the Doom General for the first time today
>first thing I see is that Doom Eternal has been delayed


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why yes I only play brutal doom how could you tell

>> No.5937039
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What the FUCK were they thinking?

>> No.5937045

Because making games takes time, you mook.

>> No.5937046

I don't know. I can defend a lot of things in the expansions but not that shit. Or the earthquakes. Looks pretty neat, though.

>> No.5937048

You need to be 18 to post here, please take your memes back to where you came from.

>> No.5937062
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So this is the most underrated FPS, right?

>> No.5937073

what is a non-cringe spanish translation for "rip and tear"?
I don't know if it is already in the game, I play in English

>> No.5937078

el rippo y tearo

>> No.5937080

that sounds italian

>> No.5937090


>> No.5937094

"rip and tear" translate to "rasgar y rasgar"

>> No.5937095
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c'mon now

>> No.5937104
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>> No.5937115

not enough microtransactions

>> No.5937120

>bottom right
Fixing that would not have been hard

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>> No.5937129

because it's a dumpster fire they need to salvage double quick
just a guess

>> No.5937147

Nah. They want more hype and time to turn fans into advertisers.

>> No.5937157

What is that? A Block of shit?

>> No.5937163


Rocks but they might as well be blocks of shit as you have to go past them

>> No.5937179

I played Doom last year.
I played Doom this year.
I'm going to play Doom next year.
I've been doing this for 24 years. What the fuck is wrong with me?

>> No.5937180

DoE was such a fucking slog to get through. Janky level design, cheap traps and the fucking earthquakes. Also horrible new enemies, and guns that you'd never use.

>> No.5937212

some people play it for the mods
some people play it for the almost refined gameplay and action
some people just wanna watch the world burn and run brutal doom over zandronum

>> No.5937243

Considering we still haven't seen mp gameplay, or console gameplay, and one mp mode and console port are delayed indefinitely, kind of sounds like they're having difficulty with the mp, ports, or both.

>> No.5937287
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>play through all of Duke Nukem, enjoy it
>play The Birth expansion, REALLY enjoy it
>it ends on this screen
I'm fucking dying
I'm losing my shit

>> No.5937297

Just go for Manhattan Project

>> No.5937306

now play world tour
or shadow warrior

>> No.5937313
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genesis doomer here

no new features this time, but I made a few changes for a pretty significant performance increase

- copy framebuffer in 3 frames instead of 4 (should reduce input latency, might be possible to do it in 2 frames)
- remove a pointless waitForVsync() call (this alone gave me ~12ms)
- added a vertex cache, to avoid re-transforming vertexes that are used more than once in a map (this saved another 8ms)

this puts me above 10fps in filled mode in the first room, and not far from 10fps in the flashing room.

The actual transformation code can still probably be optimized though, as is the line tracing (which calculates the top and bottom y positions along the lengths of walls), and I'll probably need to rewrite these in assembly to scale to more complex geometry.

>> No.5937314

Is there anything special to World Tour besides the fifth episode? Is the fifth episode playable in EDuke32?
I'm probably going to play Shadow Warrior next. What's the difference between Classic Complete and Classic Redux (they were both in the OP MEGA folder)?

>> No.5937320

why does there have to be anything special to itt beyond being made by the original level designers? and no.
classic complete is just the original exe with dosbox, classic redux is a sourceport. its pretty decent, better than dosbox for sure.

>> No.5937321

Redux is a "remaster" if the game and is essentially the best way to play SW.
WT cannot be played with EDuke32. It includes some new graphical stuff that make the game look better.
Unfortunately it doesn't include the expansions.

>> No.5937343

What kind of fucked up middle finger does Romero have

>> No.5937348

I wish I liked Sandy's maps more considering how many he made but they just seem to lack the same spark as many of the other maps.

>> No.5937350

Gimme the cool bugs

>> No.5937365

i just got done banging some chick who i met at the bar after i told her i was a quake tourneyfag and made fun of her bf for playing league of legends

>> No.5937374

She used to go to /arena/, right?

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>> No.5937376

I heard one of the tricks these kind of games used was utilise background layers for mono-colored walls/floors without having to re-draw them every time.
If you don't use i, maybe implement some sort of "fake contrast" (as Doom does) to give walls that are at different angles slightly differnt level of brightness make geometry actually visible.

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>> No.5937404 [DELETED] 

Does Shadow Warrior Classic Redux have a weird bug that makes it impossible to see where landmines are?

Personally, I have both Redux and Shadow Warrior Classic Complete installed. They're both fucking fine. Only complaint about Complete is having to rebind the keys via a setup program instead of being able to do it in-game.

>> No.5937405

Doesn't Shadow Warrior Classic Redux have a weird bug that makes it impossible to see where landmines are?

Personally, I have both Redux and Shadow Warrior Classic Complete installed. They're both fucking fine. Only complaint about Complete is having to rebind the keys via a setup program instead of being able to do it in-game.

>> No.5937409

Yes it does and it's beyond annoying but it can be fixed

>> No.5937416

IIRC that's a booger

>> No.5937417

I just pushed through.

I don't agree with any of that, except the earthquakes, that was annoying.

>> No.5937425

I like both expansion but if I had to choose, Scourge of Armagon is so much better.

>> No.5937426

>Doom II 25th anniversary
>Romero announces new episode

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>> No.5937483

How do you fix it?

>> No.5937489

sp_face wall texture but with rage comic faces

>> No.5937505

I played both and didn't like either of them, mouse aiming is complete shit and no amount of tinkering fixes it.

>> No.5937507


Guy using Doom music in his clickbait vids.


>> No.5937530

Only the Switch port is being held off past March 20. That port is being outsourced anyway.

>> No.5937551

Scourge Of Armagon was great, though it starts pretty slow, some of the base levels felt awfully tedious, it wasn't until after the portal that it got really fun.
I really liked the alternate ammo in Dissolution Of Eternity, at least the lava nails, because they make the Super Nailgun even more of a monster, particularly with Quad Damage, doing 8 times the damage as normal, and this matters with the meaner enemy encounters.

>> No.5937553
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Anyone playing with Legion of Bones? What ideas you got for what could be the Cyberdemon replacement?

>> No.5937563

A cyberdemon skeleton

>> No.5937569

That'd be cool as hell.

>> No.5937570

icon of sin, but mashed into the shape of a cyberdemon

>> No.5937574

>Launches spawn cubes instead of rockets
I don't know if I like this idea.

>> No.5937578

Picks up and throws monsters at you like projeciles

>> No.5937592

This is probably a stupid question but with Bethesda bringing Doom 64 to multiple platforms back for sale now, does that jeopardize Doom 64 EX in any way? I figured not since Bethesda is still selling Doom Classic Complete on other platforms too.

>> No.5937593

big revenant that shoots homing revenants that can only do the punch

>> No.5937594

A giant revenant that has cybernetic legs.

>> No.5937597

The same guy is working on both 64 EX and the commercial release, so it might.

>> No.5937634

that fuck Kaiser couldn't even fix his Blood bootleg
>abloo hoo hoo Atari cut funding and has final say
listen, fuckface, you had 2 drunk russians have a go at it before you, GDX in 2017 and nblood in 2019
if you did your job instead of being fellated by zdoom forums, you would've known the pitfalls of remaking the fucking game just by talking to m210 and nuke.YKT
so your fucking blood bootleg wouldn't be released ina broken state to beigin with, and wouldn't be ridiculed like BloodCM before it

fucking Kaiser I swear

>> No.5937640

But we have seen multiplayer gameplay.

>> No.5937645

The difference being that Atari can actually find and hold Kaiser responsible, while they can't hope to do all that much about some Russians.

>> No.5937657

bloodGDX was dogshit on first release
nblood is arguably far from done even now
through hard work and dedication, as well as slavic technosorcery bloodGDX is now the most feature complete and most accurate port
even GNU + Linux approved, although judging by the number of contribs to nblood's git, nobody gives a fuck about free as in take a dump in my source

along comes Kaiser teasing blood EX since before bloodGDX was a thing, slurps semen for 5 years, then shits the bed
what a guy

>> No.5937673

Link? I've only seen trailers that could have been staged.

>> No.5937684

What he's getting at is the Russian guys can do whatever they want and they can't be touched.
If Kaiser does anymore work he could get into some legal hot water and damage his career.

>> No.5937687

>Is there anything special to World Tour besides the fifth episode?
Nice lighting effects, mostly. The audio and mouse control are fucked, though.
>Is the fifth episode playable in EDuke32?
sort of, see this: https://forums.duke4.net/topic/8966-world-tour-eduke32-compatibility-stopgap/

>> No.5937694

what I'm getting at is by TALKING to the russian guys, who fucking know the game's fucking CODE, and how to make a passable port, Kaiser wouldn't need to do any extra work

>> No.5937697

and while I'm on teh subject nice lighting effects from BloodCM wouldn't go amiss on BloodGDX's openGL renderer
but I'm guessing those are baked into the maps and not the renderer

>> No.5937701

You know how the enemies respawn as undead versions after a few seconds in this mod? Make the Cyberdemon's respawn instant. You kill the cybie, he explodes and >>5937563 appears out of the explosion. Make him look like a half Terminator, half bone or something.

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>> No.5937743

looks good

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>> No.5937764

Should i play beautiful doom or smooth doom?

>> No.5937771

either is good. if you want basically authentic vanilla with just a spitshine, smooth doom is your answer. if you don't mind a bit of fundamental differences like some extra firing modes and special gore effects and that sort of thing then beautiful doom is hard to beat. i have a soft spot for bdoom myself.

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>> No.5937812

current smooth doom has removed monster variants for imps and former humans
it's upsetting to me

>> No.5937815

any way to see all of these without mingling with the normies on twatter?

>> No.5937853

why is bunny hopping way easier and faster in ezquake and quakeworld compared to quakespasm?
t. zoomer

>> No.5937859

with the original quake physics, you count as touching the ground for a single frame between jumps; with quakeworld physics, you don't

>> No.5937860

Usermade wads for Doom are hopelessly bad, so I doubt I will ever touch some again unless there is something really interesting in their presentation.

I will only play wads by competent professionals like Romero or the Nerve people, because they know their stuff.

>> No.5937872

cool blog

>> No.5937886

why are so many top doom speedrunners/mappers nordic people?

>> No.5937891

Most fan megawads far outdo the originals, especially Doom 2 which is hated around here for the most part.

>> No.5937917

First trick in not sure about, might need the background plane for the sky.
Second trick I should be able to do

>> No.5937929

Laundry day

>> No.5937953

He can't do that though, because he literally did not have access to the source code, Fresh Supply is what it is because it's an approximate recreation on a new engine with none of the original code.

Looking at BloogGDX and NBlood, those are based on the code from the leaked Alpha of Blood, this allows them to actually do a sort of sourceport for real, working from what that code already did.
The reason Kaiser isn't doing this is because it would be illegal, he wouldn't be allowed to use that code, and Atari most likely forbade him to do so in the contract as a way to protect themselves from possible consequences, and of course, they only were given so much time and so much money to work on.

Yes, Fresh Supply ultimately isn't that good, but it's not because of laziness or ineptitude on Nightdive's part, it's the circumstances of intellectual properties.
It would be unauthorized use of illegally obtained code, and a probable breach of contract, something the Russian enthusiasts doing it for free wouldn't have to care about.

>> No.5937956

Speaking of Blood.
I would like to replay it,should I stick with Nblood or switch to BloodGDX?

>> No.5937984

Only thing I liked about fresh supply is the guns updating at 60fps. And its close enough.

But no way its blood. GDX is great I really dont think the color takes much of a hit.

>> No.5938032

As shit as Sigil is, I'd like to see him try something new for Doom 2.

>> No.5938054

This question gets asked here a lot and the answer is always GDX

>> No.5938058

can post later

>> No.5938063

NBlood is the most accurate and good-looking one. Even more so than Fresh Supply.

>> No.5938067

>NBlood is the most accurate
only in visual department

>> No.5938076
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>valve fixed an oversight that flipped the MP5's accuracy values in singleplayer and multiplayer
>the MP5 has been an inaccurate bullethose on accident
>21 years

>> No.5938082

does it break old mods?

>> No.5938083

Perhaps it was correct in the WON version which is why some people remembered enemies having less health. Maybe the health values have always been the same and the mp5 just wasn't broken in that build.

>> No.5938084

Idk what you mean

>> No.5938086

No, this is a game change and not an engine change, but old mods will most certainly inherit this oversight since they're built on the public SDK which was uploaded in 2013 and not changed since.
Not sure if that's true, there's no way that any porting process would've caused that error.
The engine and game didn't see any drastic changes from the shift away from WON.

>> No.5938089

What happens if you go out of bounds?

>> No.5938092

It divides (you) by zero.

>> No.5938103
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Can someone share a Heretic 2 version that works properly on modern systems? Saves keep breaking on mine, no matter how many patches installed.
Game's a bit wonky but really fun, even when replaying first levels for the 100th time lol.

>> No.5938106

I thought it was intentional. It really turned me off from using that weapon, and I just stuck with the Glock.

>> No.5938113

The old-games version worked just fine for me on Win 10 with included 1.06 patch and a modern OpenGL dll

>> No.5938124

Same kinda hall of mirrors effect like doom.

>> No.5938151

Genuine question, but what didn't you like about Sigil?

>> No.5938159
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What are some good wads for Legion Of Bones? Preferably something with backtracking

>> No.5938165

He actually said, that if Sigil is received well, he will do a wad for Doom 2 next.

>> No.5938169

The level architecture in general. It's only hallways, corridors, tight ledges and cramped rooms in general. There's no big, creative rooms with a gameplay area that isn't only 64px wide. That is why I find it uninspired and cheap. It's boring.

The difficulty is what got the most complaints from the public... I personally didn't find it too difficult -- certainly not more than Plutonia (which is my favorite iwad), different from Pluto, Sigil it's just a slog, which gives an illusion of harsh difficulty. Filled with bullet sponges, forcing the player to shotgun them most of the time. Yes, sometimes you can use rockets to take Barons and Cacos down faster, BUT the rooms are so small that most of the time you either can't aim or are going to suffer damage from your own rockets.

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Do we have an ETA on the next episode of Hell Forged? That's a fun wad but the bosses were kind of pussy tier.

>> No.5938180

Show me?

>> No.5938182

Google "shadow warrior mineless", some hero made versions of the maps with the mines removed.

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>> No.5938184

really fucking cool game.

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>> No.5938195

When I get home from work, sure

>> No.5938205

Both GDX and nBlood run faster and better than Fresh Supply, so there's kinda no point since that port was dead in the water.

They should've made it a few years earlier.

>> No.5938247

hey, is there a monsters only version for Smooth Doom? Really want to play it with weapon mods

>> No.5938261

Some userwads are shittier than the worst Doom II and TNT maps, others are orders of magnitude better than the originals.
Well, Sigil without the "made by John Romero" label is a mediocre episode replacement for Ultimate Doom, it only stands out because of its eye shooting gimmick, and music, it doesn't even look professional by userwad standards.

>> No.5938280

> the Russian guys can do whatever they want and they can't be touched
Which is honestly hilarious, given that M210 has his contact info and basic description of who he is on his site

>> No.5938282

Down With the Sickness but it's Woo HUH HUH HUH HUH instead

>> No.5938289

Has anyone from the quake HUH pack made any follow up maps?

>> No.5938347

still working on mine, I got a lil' too ambitious for my own good.

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>> No.5938412

Why does every twitter video start off with some awful compression before eventually fixing itself?

>> No.5938415

Because twitter is a shit platform and its owners are shit human beings.

>> No.5938419

>i only know the popular ones, what do you mean someone like onemandoom reviews unpopular ones

>> No.5938421

Seems to work so far, saves load just fine. Guess something was wrong with game files on ancient CD of mine. Thanks!

>> No.5938424

>Most fan megawads far outdo the originals, especially Doom 2 which is hated around here for the most part.
Some people would argue that there's a few more good levels than awful ones.

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I require a bit of assistance. I had recently invested in an old computer from the late 90's so I could play games from that era as well as some games from the early 2000's. It was a bit of a bumpy ride at first but things seem aight so far.

I installed Quake 2 recently. I did the Maximum install (400mb). For some reason the music is not playing and I do not know why. I installed it correctly and the CD is in the CD drive, also the CD music option is turned on in the options menu.

Computer Stats:
IBM Aptiva E series 585
Windows 98
Direct X 7
Intel Pentium III (500MHz)
256mb of RAM
Nvidia Geforce 2 MX/MX 400 (32mb memory)
Sound Blaster Audigy

Also, I don't know if this was common back then but this computer came with both a DVD Drive and a CD Drive. I have tried putting the Quake II CD in both drives but I got the same result.

>> No.5938449


Did you enable CD music from the settings?

>> No.5938451

You have to make sure the music is the right file type i believe. Quake never likes to play music

>> No.5938465

Does anyone here consider Final Doom as canon or part of the main series?

>> No.5938480

I consider Doom + E4 + Doom 2 their own canon, and Final Doom is two different campaigns, which are different, but could both happen after Doom 2, in either order. Campaigns like Sigil and No Rest For The Living can fit in at any of the points they're intended to, as optional diversions or bridging gaps between parts.

Ultimately I think of most wads as taking place at any of those points, the long Doom 2 megawads usually after Doom 2 or after Final Doom.
Canon and Doom isn't a concept I put too much weight on most of the time though, mostly I'm just in it for the action and the adventure.

>> No.5938513

Not only that but they compress images as well,worse than Tumblr even.
That's bullshit

>> No.5938520

are there any wads or mods based on legends of the hidden temple, even if it's just using the giant head as a wall texture?

>> No.5938524

I might be able to 110% guarantee you that you're missing the CD audio cable that plugs in from the disc drive directly into your sound card. There's a four pin cable that connects the two because the stream comes from the drive directly. If your drives have that cable connection on their backside, you need that cable.

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shit doesn't even load for me half the time.
perfectly fine thumbnail, click it and all i get is a black screen.

>> No.5938530

Doom Eternal releases in the first quarter of next year
That's enough time for modders to make mods out of it and we wait throughout the year which mod gets a mention in the Cacowards

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Speaking of Twitter,good fucking luck finding someone who tweets something related or funny about the posts under Doom Official profile; it's either some shit meme or "Doomguy in Smash when?".

>> No.5938543

it's tiring but, anon, we've already talked so much about how twitter/reddit doom fans are lame
at least eternal's delay means they got more than enough time to play the games and prepare for eternal
specially posers and e-celebs that pretend to like the games
you're probably thinking of midnight but i was thinking more of the feel guy and some other dudes who had a history of "hot takes" about video games on twitter and mocking kotaku

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>> No.5938551

Oh yeah,sorry.
But I hope so.
I mean by the time March finally comes we could complete All official classic Doom wads twice.
Hell,even the new releases will keep us busy.
You mean MrFeelsWildRide,right?That guy is alright,it's the people who follow him who are just.....uuuuhg

>> No.5938560

Can anyone explain to me why a 25 year old game, Doom, the enemies will chase you down. Will move from room to room once they notice you. Will come after you aggressively while a new game in Ion Fury the enemies stand in place like fucking retards?

The AI is absolutely atrocious in IF and wouldn't be acceptable in 1996 nevermind 2019. Duke Nukems enemies come after you even.

>> No.5938563

It's a build engine tech demo

>> No.5938589

i wonder what happened to bratwurst and shadowlink's samsara enemy addon

>> No.5938592

Build Engine enemies in 80% of the games tend to be pretty fucking retarded and Ion Fury is no exception. Think about how often enemies in DN3D just dick around in a corner and maybe progress two feet towards you if they feel like it.
Ion Fury does feel a little bit worse than most of them in that regard though.

>> No.5938612

Smooth doom vs Colorful hell vs Hideous Destructor. Hmmm...

>> No.5938640

*Doomslayer in Smash when

>> No.5938652
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>Everyone else:Why is Doom Eternal taking so long?
>Me:Why Quake Soundtrack on vinyl isn't out yet?!

>> No.5938665

it exists but it's vaporware

>> No.5938673

That's why I said it.
It says "coming soon" but how long is this "soon"?

>> No.5938683

C'mon, Trent!

>> No.5938687

never. it's been 2 years since it's been announced and there hasn't been a damn thing. trent probably lost the tapes and is too proud to get it off the website

>> No.5938739
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>> No.5938741
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>> No.5938746

Am I missing something, or can you not apply floor textures to walls and vice versa when using Boom format in GZDoombuilder?

>> No.5938750

>this skin isn’t available in Quake Champions anymore
It still hurts.

>> No.5938751

Doom format has flats for ceilings and floors, and Boom still goes by this rule, GzDoom will let you use whatever texture or flat as you see fit.

>> No.5938753


Mods that don't use any custom client/server code are BROKEN :(

>> No.5938758
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What are some good HL1 and maybe HL2 maps/mods that are more combat-oriented?

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>and maybe HL2

>> No.5938779
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Destripar y desgarrar.

>> No.5938781


Try C.A.G.E.D. on steam, it's a small mappack that is full of action scenes (it starts with a very annoying stealth section tho, but it gets really good later on)

>> No.5938791

How hard is Half-Life mapping?

>> No.5938794
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The HUH mapping project looks like it was made by 12 year olds in their day off. God dammit anons, I expected better from you.
"Beginner" is no excuse.

>> No.5938798

2 or 3 of the maps were decent

>> No.5938802

It's a mixed bag of mostly noobs. Play through the rest of them, there's actually some good ones in there.

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Okay, I got way too used to doing that when making my previous map in UDMF format. I'm using the Boom format for my current map to see what it's like. Here's the start of the starting area.

>> No.5938834

Tried it a while ago, was pretty good. What else is there?

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>> No.5938916

It's supposed to sound awkward, Doomguy is high off his ass on a berserk pack
Beats paying for the same braindead cover shooter every year. At least Doom gives you variety. Even the cover-shooter mods like MSX are more interesting when combined with map design that makes you think about how to approach encounters.

>> No.5938921

Nice, look at that frame buffer go.

>> No.5938939

If we're to be frank the bar for entry wasn't high to begin with. The project leader was just encouraging people to map for Quake at all, even as a novice.

>> No.5938960

Goddamn I just found latailor today.

>> No.5939010

When can we get a /vr/ Quake jam focused on making high quality maps?

>> No.5939013

You could but it would need to be a few months long so people can actually learn the tools and not be rushed to put out anything.

>> No.5939020
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Few months? I learned how to properly use the tools in TrenchBroom in two days with only a few hours. It's stupidly easy to use.
Especially if the aim is to make maps like the original Id maps, if the layout is planned it'd take only a week at maximum to make each.

>> No.5939025

HL2SMOD is fun as hell even if its completely broken in terms of balance

>> No.5939040

QUMP was three years ago.

>> No.5939052
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Never knew romero was an actor as well

>> No.5939108
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Atari would still have to report him to local authorities to take legal action... At which point our police will shrug and go "we don't have time for this petty bullshit lol. We have more important things to care about". And nothing would be done about him.

Has to do smth with the fact that during the Soviet era sharing culture and art objects like books and movies was encouraged. So copyright law as west knows it didn't really exist here until late 90's.

GDX has classic software renderer now, though it's times slower than polymost, it will provide completely vanilla colors and lighting.

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for comparison

>> No.5939257

Icon of Sin fight where his head floats and attacks on its own like a giant lost soul
Before that he is just a bigger Baron/Cybie whose head leaves the body in a later phase

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>> No.5939304

Metadoom v6 when?

>> No.5939313

Using the tools can take a few hours to get a grip of.

Actually knowing how to design a good map? That would take months.

>> No.5939326

what is this?

>> No.5939365

aren't you going overboard with that?
you still need to put some sort of ai
what about the sound?

>> No.5939370

what's this?

>> No.5939376

works on my machine™

>> No.5939381
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Now if you are playing Doom for the first time with brutal doom, you will never in a trillion years experience Doom, you'll think you have experienced it, but you will be cheated.
It's a-such a sadness that you think you've played doom, on a fucking brutal doom...get real!

>> No.5939384

Preaching to the choir, anon.

>> No.5939390

a secret ive been leaked
someone might recognize it

>> No.5939413

you've been played

>> No.5939505

E2M2 still is the best official map ever of doom.

>> No.5939506

Nothing,you just enjoying playing a good game

>> No.5939619

DId that ZDoom mapping project with fueling a car ever went anywhere?

>> No.5939624


>> No.5939630

What do you mean?
I just recorded this video to show someone in the thread what happens if you go out of bounds.

I still want to add at least a couple more small optimizations, then experiment with textures.

I might add enemies and AI at some point in the middle of that, but it's not my highest priority

>> No.5939639

Last I heard Terminus was making the project private, but that was a long time ago and he's slowed down a bit with his ZDoom stuff. Could be canned for all I know.

>> No.5939641


>> No.5939668

>What do you mean?
that you are expending all your processing power into the graphics department leaving no room for ai or audio

>> No.5939669

Yeah, this had me thinking too. What would the enemies be? Just pixel cutouts to save on rendering?

>> No.5939671


>> No.5939675

>Are you fucking shitting me?

invasion mode (which they did NOT mention ONCE at e3 or quakecon despite being revealed last year) is now being advertised as coming in an update post-release. i can guess that the multiplayer modes are buggier than they were hoping and they simply cannot pass testing / certification in time.

>> No.5939681

because videos autoplay and the first few seconds are heavily compressed because most people scroll right by without watching anyway

>> No.5939686

>As shit as Sigil is
Shit taste confirmed. Now go back to play Sunlust.

>> No.5939689

That's awful. It does it even when I replay the video too.

>> No.5939691

Game has had virtually zero advertising aside from DC this year and that also got swept under the rug. probably has to do with their choice.

>> No.5939696

>Game has had virtually zero advertising
That's every Bethesda property these days.

>> No.5939730

>got into playing Doom through Brudal Düm videos a year or so ago
>played through vanilla gz D1 and 2 first to get a lay of the land and to check out how it is before mods. (also didn't know that Crispy and Chocolate Doom existed at the time)

I think I left all the controls default (horizontal mouse look only, no jump) and just went through everything and had a blast.
Then I put up BD, also had fun, but eventually got tired of switching through a million weapons in a single slot, so now I'm just at Beautiful Doom and Hideous Destructor for extra pretty and screaming at the BFG to warm up faster because goddamnit the cyberdemon is right fucking there and not aware of me yet.

>> No.5939735
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We usually have wads or map packs that start great but progressively get worse.
But how about those that do the opposite?
Start weak or alright but they keep getting better?
Any examples?

>> No.5939736

Uncanny valley

>> No.5939737
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As I always said,Quake Champions had potential but the worst part is seeing these models going to waste.
They're better than most multiplayer FPSs nowadays.
The amount of details and variety is incredible but no one will care because is dead.

>> No.5939760

let people enjoy what they want.

>> No.5939761

happy time circus 2
nova 2

>> No.5939762

Look at it like this. How many multiplayer shooters have survived over the last 5-10 years?

>> No.5939763

Do you mean 2d sprites?
Yeah, of course

>> No.5939774

I don't know. How would sprites look and run?

>> No.5939780

Only TF2,even that is debatable because is mainly done by the community.
Oh well,at least is not like Overwatch which did a 180 and became an absolute joke.

>> No.5939782

They don't have to have a million frames or anything, or be huge.

>> No.5939787

I agree with each one of them except Unloved.
It starts strong but then becomes a slaughterfest.
Not even a fun one.

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What am I missing?
Also, do you guys know any wads with unorthodox and unique architecture, like Null Space Junior or Impossible?

>> No.5939884

D4T Death Foretold

>> No.5939886

>Also, do you guys know any wads with unorthodox and unique architecture, like Null Space Junior or Impossible?

Kama Sutra MAP30

>> No.5939914

is this real?
what mod?

>> No.5939929
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Why do the zombies in Quake keep saying 'yom!'

>> No.5939934

they see you as a delicious treat and are saying "yum!"

>> No.5939954

I'm getting getting shitty FPS running gameplay/monster mods on GZDoom.
What setting should I mess with to get a better performance?

>> No.5939956

Some thoughts and very optimistic numbers.
Drawing the screen takes around 33ms right now. Floors, which are say 25% of the screen take 8ms, and walls take the remaining 25ms.
Floors can be optimized to use much more efficient horizontal drawing, which I estimate will cut their drawing cost in half.
Flat color sprites will probably not look very good, so I’ll most likely wait until I implement texturing to add them.
Texturing can be done optimally with about 4 more cycles per pixel (drawing is currently 12 cycles per pixel, so a 33% increase).

floors (8ms) + flat color walls (25ms) = 33ms

with floor optimization and texturing

floors (4ms) + textured walls (33ms) = 37ms

so, very optimistically, an increase of 4-5ms to do texturing.

Covering up let’s say 15% of the screen with sprites knocks it up by 6-7ms to 43-44ms (128x144 screen, 15% is 2700 pixels, at 12 cycles per pixel).
That’s a lot of time, an increase of 10ms over the current build, but I think it’s worth losing 1fps for textures and enemies. There will probably also be cases where a sprite isn’t clipped by geometry and I can use the genesis’s hardware sprites.

>> No.5939958

This much milliseconds to draw that?


>> No.5939971

Simple math.
6.76MHz. 12 cycles a pixel. Framebuffer is 256x144 pixels but it's drawn a byte at a time, and each byte contains two pixels.

Horizontal drawing is much faster (3-4 cycles per pixel depending on what tricks you use), but it only works if you don't want texturing.

>> No.5939980

What mods are you playing and on what maps?

>> No.5939990

Right now, Eviternity with DAKKA and Legion of Bones.

>> No.5940001

Eviternity is dense as fuck in linedefs, my man, that's a lot of checks active actors have to be constantly making

>> No.5940003

based cheekyposter

>> No.5940018

Well, fuck. So, what do I do?
Accept my dropped frames? Stop playing Eviternity? Get a new PC? Commit sudoku?

>> No.5940024

Have you played it without any mods, just Eviternity? If it's still laggy then there's probably not much else you can do besides getting a better computer.

>> No.5940037

Plat it on PrBoom+

>> No.5940118
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MFW I finally commit sudoku

>> No.5940157

So whats the consensus on Hedon?

>> No.5940163

>finally got around to playing DOOM
>tfw finished E1 for the first time

>> No.5940167

WTF was wrong with John's Hand?

>> No.5940168

If I could get it to run I'd tell you.

>> No.5940196

John suffered from Sector Syndrome you insensitive fuck

>> No.5940214

What kind of framerate are you typically getting? During slowdown?

Truth is that GzDoom doesn't run Eviternity too well even without gameplay mods, it's an inherent bottleneck in how the software is structured.

>> No.5940220

It's pretty good. E2 is my favorite episode.

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>Get the reference of the comic
>Thought it was cringeworthy but innocent because it came from a kid years ago
>Later I find out that the author when he made that and more of it wasn't a kid at all but 20 years old

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>Fight against a custom monster pack
>Colourful Hell
>Enemies can be tough as hell
>Playing with Vanilla weapons
>Fight against a dark enemy
>Has so much fucking health
>Throw everything I have
>Still nothing
>Find myself with barely any ammo
>Try to run away
>Kills me with a bullshit attack

I didn't play Colorful Hell without a slightly more powerful than usual weapon set since.

>> No.5940241

>playing op monster mod
>with vanilla weapons

>> No.5940249

I know, I wanted to see how far I could go with them.
With Doom 2,about Map 8.
Then I gave up.

>> No.5940254

Good wad, not worth buying

>> No.5940291

What if he spawned virtual copies of himself based off his D2RPG cameo?
Icon of Sin as a giant enemy is one of those "unbroken curse" projects, isn't it?

>> No.5940293
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>What if he spawned virtual copies of himself based off his D2RPG cameo?
And i meant copies of his guy, VIOS.
Or rather "spitirual" instead of "virtual".

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VIOS always gave me the impression of "what if Shodan from System Shock was in Doom?"

>> No.5940303

I once imagined Doomguy in a scenario like I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream where he faces AM.
That one part in the pc game adaption where the brain has glass shards and shit kind of reminds me of Doom's weird fleshy-techy Hell.

>> No.5940306

AM was straight up diabolical,I loved that game and the novel.

Come to think of it who would win between AM and Shodan?

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>> No.5940335

blease play doom 2, doom 2 is BEST, only 20 minutes

>> No.5940364
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Is there a program that will merge together a bunch of WADs containing multiple maps into a combined map pack? I want to make an Oblige survival with 100 maps all in a single WAD file, but I don't even know if that's doable.

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noticed this doom snowboard has a possibly unique illustration
was this piece of doom artwork used anywhere?
inb4 this is fanart they accidently used

>> No.5940517

Anyone given Bury My Heart Knee Deep a shot yet?

>> No.5940575

Back in the day, we thought it couldn't ever look any better

>> No.5940605

Thank you Junpei!

>> No.5940615

Man, Back to Saturn X's second episode is such a step down from the first. It's not bad by any means, but it's nowhere at Ep1's level.

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been taking cracks at it with hideous destructor
pretty good stuff

>> No.5940649

more HD webms!

>> No.5940657

> 30 seconds to move about 128 map units
why he so slow at crawling

>> No.5940658

why can hideous destructroid crawl

>> No.5940663

i sleep now

because that's playing dead, not actual crawling

>> No.5940748

It's weird what you find when you start looking through doomseeker servers

>> No.5940783

BloodGDX is not based on alpha code, it's 100% v1.21 one unit whole blood code. Where did he get that?
By looking at the alpha code then tweaking it so it works like v1.00 then v1.21

so blood alpha was only used as an annotation to get the idea how all this shit is supposed to work

>> No.5940802

>GDX has classic software renderer now, though it's times slower than polymost, it will provide completely vanilla colors and lighting.
it's really wonky at the moment, and performs much worse than nblood (based java VM)
like seriously, 3-4 times slower than nblood

nblood doesn't have 99.9% DOS accuracy of bloodGDX. Any demos using proper freelook like with BMOUSE.EXE desync pretty quick.
it also doesn't have custom difficulty which both fresh supply and GDX have

and as a final note nblood is worse for user content, because you have to replace your blood.ini each time you load a user made episode
BloodGDX just has custom content option you point to whichever folder you've installed it in and it just works right from the game

nblood is only better for the software renderer which is inburdened by jawa and therefore will never ever lag or stutter unlike GDX

>> No.5940817

t. Kaiser

>> No.5940861


>> No.5940873
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I like this one.

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Here's your reminder. Play Dark Forces. The DOS version is easy to get running, and can be configured to use WASD with ease, and the Mac port is technically better in the rendering department, because it can run at a higher res, but you need a PPC mac and or emulator to even think of getting it running. This is the Mac port.

>> No.5940942

And who the fuck is that particular outfit supposed to be

>> No.5940952

no way fag

>> No.5941012

wheres the shadow warrior equivalent of Eduke32, GZdoom or Nblood?

>> No.5941013

Is Tricks & Traps anyone else's most hated map? It feels awful since the previous maps were great to me.
I can stomach Doom 1's later levels, and the city maps, but this map completely ruins any enjoyment I may have.

>> No.5941021
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On the bright side, it might not go to a complete waste. Bethesda is going to reuse the same Doomguy model from Champions as a skin for Eternal, so maybe there’s still a chance they could reuse some of the other stuff for a future Quake game.

>> No.5941027

Those better be unlockable, and not paid. Because god damn do I love the old helmet design.

>> No.5941042

From what I understand, you just need to buy the game and link it to that Slayers’ Club thing they have going on to get the associated skin and title. I wish they used Doom 3 Marine as a skin though. It would’ve gone perfect, since they’re bringing back the 3rd person cutscenes from Doom 3.

>> No.5941045

>you just need to buy the game and link it to that Slayers’ Club
Oh, that's fine. And I agree, doom3guy is cool.
It would be hilarious to see him being the over-the-top character this time around.

>> No.5941063

I hope so because stuff like this is fun, even if occasionally innacurate but still

>> No.5941068


Shocked there's never been an original doom artbook. That is, the original Adrian Carmack drawings, images of the puppets, etc.

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>> No.5941084

You're probably too young to appreciate Sandy's genius. You'll get it one day.

>> No.5941097

Is any of it well perserved and easy to find?

>> No.5941119
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i don't get the whole hype behind these new DooM games
i mean sure it's not hot garbage but they're fundamentally different
the first two games were about going through levels and fighting demons along the way
where as the 2016 feels like a watered down Serious Sam,you enter a room and demons spawn frequently and superflous rpg and upgrade elements,the sections where you gotta stand and listen to some robofag are obnoxious and kill the pace as well

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>> No.5941126

Gameplay mods inspiration?

>> No.5941159

I like nudoom's level structure better.

>> No.5941214
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caco love

>> No.5941238


I think your hud is sick anon

>> No.5941245

Because Eternal looks to be a step up from 2016 in every way.

>> No.5941251
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Get fucked loser
t. Pain Elemental

>> No.5941254

I hope they have the Arena skin as well

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>> No.5941264

In my headcanon, that hand belongs to the icon of Sin.

>> No.5941265

I'm going to be real miffed if the red classic skin is locked behind a console port of BFG edition, when I already own that on Steam.

>> No.5941278

If they are bringing QC stuff might as well take the costumization system too like additional stuff to arms, legs and shit

>> No.5941325

I'm honestly shocked by the amount of people in these threads who defend NuDoom. It's basically just Brutal Halo more than it is a proper Doom game. I know that Doom 3 was also radically different from the original games, but it also felt closer to John Romero's original survival horror concepts.

>> No.5941337

So nothing is a "proper Doom" if it's not based on Romero's ideas, even though he's not at ID anymore? That's just bullshit
Cmon. Being mad that a modern shooter play like Halo is like being mad that Duke 3D play like Doom. Some games are just that influential.

>> No.5941348

I didn't say that it has to be based on his ideas, just that Doom 3 was still closer to the original concept of Doom. My main problem with how nuDoom plays is how sluggish the movement is. Also the ugly as hell art style that looks like a cross between Warcraft and Warframe doesn't do it any favors.

>> No.5941363

Bait harder.

>> No.5941369

tricks and traps is nowhere near doom2's worst map
it's an OK map nothing special

>> No.5941373


>> No.5941374

I loved the artstyle honestly. Yeah it's sluggish for sure though and it's a big problem. Hopefully Eternal will be faster, at least it has dashes.
The biggest problem I have with nuDoom are the glory kills, I still can't quite accept that shit

>> No.5941380

I hated the art style and its getting even worse now. But it could be worse. Honestly I dont see incredible hype. Much of it is brand and creators pushing it.

Its certainly a better normie fps game than fucking mind dumbing boring Halo ever was. Or another military shooter.

>> No.5941383

>I'm honestly shocked by the amount of people in these threads who defend NuDoom.
I've stopped being shocked by 4chan's shit taste long before moot was a cowboy

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To add I feel like game development the west has a terrible artistic problem.
Maybe its a sign of shit starting to root who knows.

I have sometimes wondered if its a disconnected between high fidelity graphix and artists being separated from the process. Coupled with teh fact game development in 2019 is fucking hell.

For example you see that indie game valfaris? Sort of a duke nukem 2d game? There and in other small experiments you see what shit could be.
Valfaris looks interesting in a Druillet way and visually metal as fuck that is what doom I think was all about. endrant

>> No.5941404

Yeah, there's people who don't like Doom 4 even, weird people.

>> No.5941423

I do wish the runspeed was a little higher, but overall NuDoom was nice and fast paced to me.

also if you're not playing with the blood-fueled and in-flight mobility runes you're playing it wrong

>> No.5941431

I can't make out shit in that game.

>> No.5941436

>John Romero's survival horror concepts

>> No.5941437

thats even further away from the concept of doom artwise than nudoom is

>> No.5941438

I don't know man, I think it's definitely the best looking AAA western game both technically and creatively, and Eternal is even better save for the garish HUD which was made on purpose and will be customizable anyway. And while some mechanics are very questionable, I feel like nuDoom still has great gameplay and most of it's gamedesign decisions are sound.

>disconnected between high fidelity graphix and artists being separated from the process
Just one look at the concept arts shows you this is wrong for the most part

>> No.5941439

what's there to like, honestly, besides the gore?
painkiller did it 12 years before it and did it better

>> No.5941448

>what is there to like about the game? surely it can't be the gameplay

>> No.5941457

I am not saying that particular style should be Doom.

I just dont like the art then.

>> No.5941486

gameplay could've been good if it weren't an inferior painkiller clone with even worse level design lmao
also I hated painkiller's tarot challenges back in the day and hated nudoom's less obnoxious version thereof

>> No.5941496

Nah, zooming around the environments with a gauss shot, reload cancelling and hot swapping between mods when I need to in addition to the glory kill speed boost rune feels very good. In regards to level design I absolutely agree the game could've benefited from more open ended sections and that's the one thing holding the game back from full realization. They had a good kickstart with Foundry and Argent Facility and then everything else was just on railtracks.

>> No.5941515

wtf are you talking about. tricks and traps is a work of genius.

>> No.5941550
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>this shit is real
>this is a thing that exists

>> No.5941562

>twin stick

>> No.5941564

excuse me?

>> No.5941568

What is this?

>> No.5941569

It's a real poster for a real game that have you playing a demon that kills marines
It's on Steam
And this is the image they use for Steam header

>> No.5941720

is prodeus early access worth 20 bucks

>> No.5941721

someone made a hellboy game?

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>> No.5941745

It's not retro, that's for sure.

>> No.5941746

>what's there to like, honestly, besides the gore?
most ideas that inspired the gameplay mods for og doom, meaning people like a lot of the material but still see issues with the base game, hence they put it in old doom
some people might as well be more excited for d4t: eternal edition and meta doom version 6 instead of eternal itself
honestly, doom 3 and 2016 might as well be extreme opposites of each other fixated on two different halfs of doom that, when combined, could have made it more "doom" and look further into the original games
besides the fact that romero isn't the only doom creator, his level design ideas (along with others like peterson's or mcgee's) and how levels in doom worked is something i don't see either 3 or 2016 carry over, probably because levels are now "locations" and not just "levels"
it's one of the reasons why doom keeps getting maps and not just because it's easier than working on a gameplay changing mod

>> No.5941752

The horror angle of 3 and trying to be System Shock is cool if well done. That was a terrible era to do it however. An era where consoles had 500megs shit even less of ram.

A horror survival Doom where you are just a guy against hell would be great, could even have a little bit of quake in it with eldritch horror.

>> No.5941758

Doom 2 Redux or Doom 2 Reloaded?

>> No.5941759

It’s definitely possible.

>> No.5941762

doom 2 redux's had its barrels o fun almost killing my computer

>> No.5941765

Doom 2 Redloaded

>> No.5941768

Stop ducking, Ranger. You can't do that!

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>> No.5941797

You're not a revenant

>> No.5941805

Doom 4 has wayyy better combat, aesthetics, and music than Painkiller.

>> No.5941812

Sandy is a shitty level designer.

I really hate that map. I got so angry when I first played it I took my time to post in this thread on how much I hated it.

>> No.5941818

wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong

>> No.5941829

Painkiller's music is the most generic, shitty DUDE SO KICKASS rock schlock ever. The other points are arguable but come on dude.

>> No.5941836

d44m's music is also painfully generic garbage

>> No.5941845

Not him but 2016's highs are higher than PK, at least in the OST department.

>> No.5941850

Now you're looking to retaliate.

>> No.5941867

painkiller's best music is the ambient stuff

>> No.5941870

Nah, if anything it's one of the best maps in Doom 2.

Painkiller doesn't look like anything special to me desu

>> No.5941881

>Painkiller doesn't look like anything special to me desu
try playing it, fagazoid

>> No.5941883

Name one good game with similar music

>> No.5941887

I want the 2016 doomslayer getup tbqh

>> No.5942038
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>that HUD

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strong caco

>> No.5942074

It’s possible.

>> No.5942076

do doomrpg a better hud then lads

>> No.5942123

What the hell is this? Doom jrpg?

>> No.5942126

ITT people don't know what the RPG mod is

>> No.5942156
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>let's play the third party Duke expansions
>Duke It Out in D.C. came out first so I should play it first
>Smithsonian Terror

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>> No.5942164

doomrpg+doomrla sumwunn edition
who the fuck needs borderlands.

>> No.5942196

I like new doom's faster, and more challenging gameplay. It hits the right spot for me that most shooters can't.

>Dead Space is a dead series
It hurts

>> No.5942205

pleb filter map

>> No.5942220

The Dead Space weapons in Doom would be great. Just imagine the Force Gun turning every thing it blasts into paste.

>> No.5942230

Now that's just criminal

>> No.5942234

Thanks, that sounds fun actually

>> No.5942236

This is why the Red Cross trademarked the red cross.

>> No.5942239

I know. Isn’t it beautiful?

>> No.5942245
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it looks so fuckin bad. the gameplay kinda looks like it's mean to harp on diablo but then they're lampooning doom and duke nukem so idk what the fuck they are trying to do

>> No.5942247

Killer Instinct (2013)

>> No.5942260

Wolfenstein The New Order
aka the good one

>> No.5942263
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I've looked up the trailer:
>Hell on Earth as usual
>A My Little Pony in a nazi uniform
>Demon girls with dildos weapons
>Peter Griffin
>Straight up ripped off the Preator Armor
>Keanu Reeves cameo
>A real streamer and a youtuber as fat guys
>Feminine Adolf Hitler

This feels like Internet the game but it feels like they want to get sued so badly for that Doomslayer armor

>> No.5942297

>something so small that barely anyone knows about it
>get sued

>> No.5942337

The level design in this first quake expansion is trash. Way too many environmental hazards.

>> No.5942339 [DELETED] 

which wad is this?

>> No.5942352

that marine on the right is looking THICC

>> No.5942358

I prefer Jedi Knight.

>> No.5942362

when i think of there being a doom game based around the entire franchise, i try to see the glory kills as a later upgrade that not only fit with the new games being recent but also the progress of doomguy going from ordinary marine to a stronger demon killer
i think minidoom 2 had a later upgrade that was a kill-for-health ability

>> No.5942367

Just deal with it, it gets better.

>> No.5942369

I finished the second episode.

>> No.5942374

Now that's its Spookstober, anyone have a good list of horror themed WADS, whether they be standard Doom gameplay or heavily modified/total conversions?

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>> No.5942495

the zdoom spooktober community project is a pretty good one

>> No.5942505
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Why does Doomguy wear flesh colored gloves?

>> No.5942546

What's the best way to play Shadow Warrior?
And how its difficulty levels are compared to other Build Engine games?

>> No.5942584

cool but Fake genesis cant' Do 3D

>> No.5942596

This was always weird to me.

When I was a kid I just thought he had extra skin for some reason.

>> No.5942618

/vr/ half-life mapping collab when?

>> No.5942631

/vr/ Build Engine map pack when

>> No.5942638

I don’t know? He also definitely had black gloves on the cover art.

>> No.5942640

the Heretic project is still ongoing.
an Ion Fury project would certainly be something. Ogay bottles everywhere.

>> No.5942643

Yeah, I'm actually really excited to see what it's like when it is released, because I very much enjoyed 300 Minutes of /vr/ for Doom.
But I've been on a Build Engine binge lately, and would like to see what people can make for it.

>> No.5942648

/vr/edneck /vr/ampage map pack when?

>> No.5942654

please, any other build engine game than that
even tek war

>> No.5942661

I mean its fucking great. I may love Doom, but older I get the more appreciation I get for Duke3d and Thief. Love how they approached maps design in duke and build engine games.

Played recently bullestorm with the duke add on. Man he really needed a decent game. He will never get it.

>> No.5942662

just pray that Randy gets on coke again, loses all his money, sells the Duke Nukem IP, it gets picked up by a AA developer, who makes a beautiful Duke Nukem 4, using an updated Build Engine that is based on eduke32 so they also give the improvements back to the community.

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>> No.5942665

Nah its dead. I just glad we get shit like Alien Armageddon.

>> No.5942670

I mean, yeah, but it's fun to pretend.

>> No.5942692

Extremely high quality of life and good life/work balance means they have lots of time to do as they please.

>> No.5942768

why ya gotta make fun a' the man's hand foreskin, huh?!

>> No.5942784
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He left his other chainsaw gloves at home

>> No.5942786

>spaghetti nerd arm

>> No.5942790

Definitely an odd design choice. What kept them from going with the black gloves like on the box art? Did they just happen to have a set of gardening gloves handy or whatever?

>> No.5942804

They'd be more gray than black. https://zdoom.org/wiki/Palette

>> No.5942815

Something closer to the pistol couldn't have been too hard to get.

>> No.5942836

That might be the reason in the first place, they didn't want the hands to blend in with the pistol/shotgun

>> No.5942898

Duke Nukem 3D is more fun than Blood.

>> No.5942928

Shadow Warrior is more fun than both.

>> No.5942952
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Funny how for Quake, few user mapsets have managed to surpass the quality of the original Id maps

>> No.5942956

i feel like quake usermaps are better on average than doom usermaps. there are tons that surpass the originals.

>> No.5942962

and all of id's quake maps surpass id's doom maps

>> No.5942967

From my experience, most of them are unreplayable trash, and as linear as Half-Life, and it's the worst when they have player conserve ammo as the imposed "challenge". Most notably the speedmap jams. Soulless.

Quake usermaps are usually better because they require more knowledge to be made, and the dedicated community of mappers is signifcantly smaller than Doom's. Doom mapping is literally just drawing lines, which anyone can do with minimal effort.

The few I've seen surpass the quality of the originals are AD maps (most of which are actually too big to be replayable imo) and known classics like the Marcher Fortress.

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>things dukeposters wish were true but aren't

that's just pure contrarianism

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sounds like a (You) problem :^)

>> No.5942980

If youre playing speedmaps of course theyre not gonna be the best. Do you play Doom speedmaps? I dont, theyre not worth the time. Check out a real map:
nu-/v/ is 2 blocks down buddy
SW's gameplay actually feels more similar to Blood than Duke 3D to me, very fast-paced and dangerous. Excellent game, at least on par with Blood.

>> No.5942981

You probably haven't played very many.

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As do I.

>> No.5942994
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>update smooth doom™ for the first time since 2016
>monster variants have been removed
>duke style explosions have been removed
>customisation options truncated
>complete doom 64 arsenal added this time with gameplay effects
on the bright side
>a million bugs fixed
here's a quick question for all you skiddie types who make wacky zscript wads, smooth doom is just using DECORATE, right? Can it even be proted to a source port that doesn't suck like GLBoom?

>> No.5942998

Racism can never be allowed, anon.
Don't worry, I also disqualify Redneck Rampage.

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Already played that map. Great. One of only a handful. Also, fuck off with your 'hurr don't use le bad /v/ words' faggotry.
Speedmaps could be good, if they cared about making good maps. But you're right, they're not worth the time when it comes to the Doom community.
When I'm bored of playing the og maps, I usually pick a buncha maps to try on Quaddicted. 99% which I will never play again.
Many of the more recent ones are just good visuals that remind the player of AD, but offer nothing else of value. "X new maps from Y different mappers about blah blah blah" and no no sense of continuity, progression or originality.

I must say the MachineGames expansion is actually great.

>> No.5943017

>+1 Health pill morphs into a Major Biomechanoid

>> No.5943024

>Racism can never be allowed, anon.
eat shit and die

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I see you're a man of culture as well

>> No.5943065

That's not just a red cross, it's an INVERTED red cross!

>> No.5943072

>Can it even be proted to a source port that doesn't suck like GLBoom?
No you can't port it without forking GLBoom. In doom, actor logic and actor animation are completely tied to each other, so to add more frames you have to mess with the actors themselves. I.e scripting, gameplay modding.

>> No.5943085

how can we make Zdoom less shit then
is there a specific version that doesn't have all the bloat and also runs smooth doom

>> No.5943120

GZDoom works really well for me. The bloat has been getting reduced a lot, but some of it is absolutely necessary for a mod like Smooth Doom to even be a possibility in the first place. Much of the stupid stuff however are very old poor design decisions that have to be left in place or behind compatibility flags because old mods would break, and you know how people react to such changes (even if they'd make the engine faster and better).

>> No.5943145

>wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong
yes, i agree. your opinion is wrong :)

i have played it, fagzoid, its serious sam for edgelords

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So there's a PSX Doom project where they port every damn missing level to the original PSX version.

I'm persoinally gonig to play the whole thing when it's done via emulation with both PGXP and CPU OC to get stable 30fps.

There's some talk of remaking all the levels in the D64 engine next.

>> No.5943227

Have completed:
alien vendetta
going down
adventures of square

is it all downhill from here, or is there something to top these?

>> No.5943232

What's racist about RR?

>> No.5943254
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I've compiled nBlood from latest source because BloodGDX's software renderer is way too slow on my machine
spoiler: it's still a glitchfest

Download 64 bit wangblows version:
wasn't so much a pain in the cunning linguals so to speak, but more hoops than necessary for sure

>> No.5943289

>Doom mapping is literally just drawing lines, which anyone can do with minimal effort.
oh for sure man

>> No.5943307

*running kleer sounds*

>> No.5943313

but then they'd be just as if not more prominent in many other known games, not just doom.

>> No.5943314

>Doom mapping is literally just drawing lines, which anyone can do with minimal effort.
Is this bait? Genuinely can't tell.

>> No.5943316
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Changed out some gun sounds and altered the revolver. It now only shoots ratshot (i.e small shotgun shells) and ramjet boosted slugs (works like railgun). Grapeshot for the 50mm GL not pictured.

Refactored some HUD code too. Colors for buttons in the screens are now constants, so it's easy to change them all at once.

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>> No.5943340

I never actually finished Final Doom after all these years. Guess I should go ahead and do that?

>> No.5943341

rednecks are to white people what hood thugs are to black people

>> No.5943350

first of all you did not succumb to a fatal effluent overdose, as was my recommendation
second of all according to the twised logic of your peers, you cannot be racist against white people

>> No.5943362

>Doom mapping is literary just drawing lines, wich anyone can do with minimal effort.
That's Wolfenstein 3D mapping.

>> No.5943386

There is still many more wads and megawads to play before going downhill. You should also try these;
Ancient Aliens
Doom II Reloaded
Plutonia Revisited
Plutonia 2
Hell Revealed 2
TNT Revilution
Deus Vult I and II

>> No.5943452

At least do Plutonia.

>> No.5943465
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>I must say the MachineGames expansion is actually great.

>> No.5943467

DOPA is fucking great, though. Enjoy being a walking meme, i guess.

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>> No.5943498

not that anon but it's subpar by user map standards
doesn't fit in with the original levels either because it's been designed by people making games for ADD millennials for a living and it shows

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>> No.5943517

>it's been designed by people making games for ADD millennials for a living and it shows
the fuck are you on about? the worst thing you could say about it is that DOPA is average by quake standards

you'll find a lot of people in these threads are "walking memes" as you so put it

>> No.5943528

the simplistic layouts of the levels themselves and laughably poorly hidden secrets
if you're for some reason clueless as to who made it you'll walk away with a strange feeling it's been made by professional level designers in [current year -3]

>> No.5943546

Doom 1 but in the Bikini Bottom.

>> No.5943587
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idk what you're talking about, I compiled it a few days ago and it's fine

>> No.5943590

Does Jino ever come on here anymore? I remember talking to him about DAKKA a few years ago. Seemed like a really cool dude.

>> No.5943591

damn bro, epic synecdoche

>> No.5943619

Is there a recent full rip of the idgames/dw archive? The only one I can find is pre 2016. I just want to sort through everything locally.

>> No.5943623

He does but is as secretive as ever

>> No.5943653 [DELETED] 

Can we all agree that Half life is a bad game and it doesn't belong on this board?

>> No.5943761 [DELETED] 

can we all agree about hl1 being bad?

>> No.5943763

hoping it gets the consolation prize treatment

>> No.5943773

What do you mean?
It's just math and drawing pixels

>> No.5943793

Who's telling the truth here? I haven't touched nBlood in awhile.

>> No.5943821 [DELETED] 

half life is garbage.

>> No.5943825

Well we both used different compilers on different operating systems, so there could be bugs on one and not the other.
Perhaps, we are all telling the truth.

>> No.5943904

Eternal doom megawad is way comfier

>> No.5943923

Eternal Doom is shit
Requiem still reigns supreme

>> No.5943925

>I haven't touched nBlood in awhile.
neither has nuke.YKT, oh snap
bugs I've noticed:
deaf fanatics and sometimes blind cultists
various collision bugs mainly involving doors
disappearing and reappearing red spiders
rats dying from being stepped on ???
bloated butchers being stuck on decorations (used to happen in old bloodGDX)
bloated butchers playing the voodoo doll death animation when hit with dynamite while on fire
enemies clipping through door closing animation
various room over room splash damage and AI bugs (this often happens in DOS too)
room over room sound code being fucked (rarely happens in DOS)

I very much doubt that has any effect on anything, nblood just needs about 12 more months in the oven at current rate
bloodGDX wasn't built in a day neither

>> No.5943942 [DELETED] 

Learn to use your brain and interpret text.
It was a response to why of anon's affirmation that "Quake usermaps are better on average than Doom usermaps".

>> No.5943949

Rats being stepped on is a feature.

>> No.5943963
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Learn to use your brain and interpret text.
It was a response to why of anon's affirmation that "Quake usermaps are better on average than Doom usermaps".
If you can't figure out why Doom modding is more accessible than Quake modding to people with no knowledge of level design, you're probably lacking half of your brain.

>> No.5943984

meant for >>5943362
not 5943350

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>> No.5943990

yeah, you're right
I almost never see that happen because the hitbox is so fiddly

>> No.5944008

I have DAKKA, Combined Arms and Lt.Typhon

>> No.5944048

Ultra Crispy

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>> No.5944054


You need to load it with Doom 2's PWAD

>> No.5944060

what's that?

>> No.5944064

I'd love to play this with Hideous Destructor desu. Perfect desolate atmosphere for scared shitless breaching and clearing.

>> No.5944073

Something i can't see happening in Doom modding is "coloring" parts of floor textures with other textures, because when i think of the Cybermancubus from 2016 in a mod, i feel like he'd get more justice with circles or liquid drops based off the green acid floor texture on a wood or other type of floor, instead of green clouds like in D4T.
May also be why some mods go for exploding slime ball.

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>TFW I'm still waiting for either Disney or a former Lucasarts employee to leak the full source code to the Jedi Engine.

>> No.5944075

What do I do when the palette.lmp file won't load? Do I need to download another Pak0.pak? Also, how the hell do I quickly and cleanly make things like arches, sphere-ish objects, and proper pyramids? I wanted to make an old nomadic camp floating in space based on some imagery from Destiny's concept art that's been invaded by monsters and shit but Trenchbroom's brush tools are too difficult for me to figure out, especially with the aforementioned palette.lmp thing.

>> No.5944081

You can actually sort of do it with flatsprites and the correct render style, the issue is they act like flat sheets rather than decals so they'll hang over stairs and ledges.

>> No.5944083
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doom's linedefs are harder to work with than quake's brushes

>> No.5944089

Yeah, that's usually a problem with the pak0. Replace it.

Absolutely watch dumptruck_ds' tutorials on Youtube, you'll learn how to make all that stuff in a single day.
There's also a manual for TrenchBroom which you can open with F1.

>> No.5944101

Each has advantages and disadvantages. In Doom it's quicker to just make rooms in general. But the annoying thing is that when detailing, all your sectors start criss-crossing together and it becomes progressively harder to change things because of how interlinked everything is. Especially if you're making detailed sector lighting.

>> No.5944107
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That's the whole fucking point: it's harder to make a good Doom map than to make a good Quake map -- however Doom modding is more popular and accessible than Quake modding by miles.

>> No.5944113
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Okay so I got a new pak0.pak and instead of saying "error loading palette.lmp" it just now says "loading palette.lmp" and I still have no textures.

I broke it, didn't I?

>> No.5944117

and just to clarify:

What's accessible about Doom modding:
- You literally just draw lines.
- Tools are far easier to use.

What's difficult about Doom modding:
- Making an interesting level in a '2.5D' plane (I know it's a colloquial term)
- Making use of advanced features and polishing your levels
- Learning every helpful feature -- I've made a ton of Doom maps but I'm still learning new stuff about the engine and the editor with each new map.

>> No.5944121

Quake does not come with the texture wad, the textures are instead baked into every map. So Trenchbroom can not fetch them automatically. You need to find (on google) "Quake101.wad" which contains all of Quake's textures, and add it manually.

>> No.5944124

Ah shite, that's what I was missing. Thanks!

>> No.5944125

You need to download the Quake textures to use them. Don't worry anon I gotchu.
To put them in TrenchBroom you need to go to Face, and on the bottom there should be a 'Texture Collections' option. Click 'show' and use the + to add the wad. Have it set as 'Absolute'

>> No.5944131


Yeah but trenchbroom is a really nice piece of software, I wish Thief dromed was like it.

I fucking have dromed.

>> No.5944132


>> No.5944139 [DELETED] 

half life and cs are objectively bad game design.

>> No.5944143

Whenever someone mentions thief I feel guilty I haven't finished it. It was a couple of OS installs ago and I never got past Thieves Guild.

Loved the feel of the game though. The setting is fucking fantastic.

>> No.5944146

Out of curiousity, I want to do moving level geometry similar to how in DmC, as you approach certain points, the geometry will reshape itself into something else.

Is this possible? I picture a world floating in space with rocks that, as you move around, will reform into runic symbols and the like.

>> No.5944148
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>no Kira Morgan’s or Crash’s stand alone mod
>they’re not so recognizable characters
>“lol wat if ddomguy wasss a girl hahahahahaha”
I know, she’s from Quake 3 and the other is from a mobile game, but come on!

>> No.5944158

Perhaps to some extent. Quake lacks rotation, so you'd have to use only up/down/left/right movement. And there's no real-time lighting, so the brushes will remain lit like they are at the start of the level.

>> No.5944201

of all the things new doom took from quake, she should have been one of them
that and phobos and maybe the jesus references
at least crash has porn, unlike kira

>> No.5944208

You know that shit hole half finished mission should not even be there. Install it again and just use shift control alt end to skip it.

Its a blemish on an other wise masterpiece in level design.

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>> No.5944235

you aren't a real doom modder if the map01 backyard doesn't feel like home to you

>> No.5944251

Yeah, I'll get around to it some day. To busy with modding and work and whatever atm to actually play games

>> No.5944253

I wish i could play it fresh all over again 100 times.

>> No.5944258

I remember the sword being questionably useful but the flashbombs being extremely good and worth spending all extra cash on. Is this correct?

>> No.5944263

Once you get good at the game, the sword is actually useful. If nothing else to bash zombies or monsters, I never cared about stealthing those unless they were too many.

But yeah the most powerful tool in Garret are either gas arrows or flashbombs. Fire arrows are meh People sometimes dont know flashbombs do extra damage to undead and haunts. And can kill make them explode.

I rarely use them. I try to ghost and blackjack humans as little as possible most of the time.

The most useful shit to me is moss and rope. Water arrows depends on the situation.

>> No.5944267

Anyone got a good creepy/eerie midi I could use for my next doom map?

>> No.5944312

the infight mosh pit is the one feature doom will never be topped in

>> No.5944368 [DELETED] 

prove him wrong>>5944139

>> No.5944372 [DELETED] 

you smell

>> No.5944375 [DELETED] 

Heh, thanks for supporting me anon but I've changed my ways. I discovered I love gargling cum and pushing my poop back inside with the aid of my fingers every waking moment, so I have no need to trashtalk HL and CS any longer

>> No.5944380

Its common knowledge to ignore the anti-hl autist. Report and don't respond.

>> No.5944387

Are there any other notable wads that are visually appealing like Eviternity?

>> No.5944396

>visible face
close but i hate it

>> No.5944398

>If you can't figure out why Doom modding is more accessible than Quake modding to people with no knowledge of level design, you're probably lacking half of your brain.
Except the quote was "Doom mapping is literally just drawing lines, which anyone can do with minimal effort.". Don't try to twist things. Not only is it wrong since you have to worry about things like textures and scripts, but it's also saying it's easier.

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>> No.5944458


>> No.5944489
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Out of all lewd images of Crash available online you had to pick a drawing from that poser from Twitter?
Come on, anon.

>> No.5944497
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>Playing Quake 1.5
>Have fun with the weapons
>Fight against new enemies
>they kinda break the balance but it's all good
>Get to Episode 2
>They butcher the balance and makes it almost unplayable

I know you can deactivate them but damn E2M3 is so incredibly hard with them.

>> No.5944498

Remake of Fortress of Dr. Radiaki on Harvester engine fucking WHEN?!

>> No.5944502
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That's a fucking massacre, I love it

>> No.5944505

>Hexen got ported to not only the PS1, but also the Sega Saturn and N64
>Heretic, Despite being released a year earlier, got NO CONSOLE ports.

>> No.5944510

>Hexen on PS1
I thought you were making this up but it's real, holy cow.
But yeah I guess that they weren't that satisfied with the first Heretic so they decided to disregard it all together(I like Heretic more btw)
In fact Heretic 2 is a different game in terms of gameplay

>> No.5944543

You already made this same post like a week ago.
Hexen's PS1 port would be okay if it weren't for one fatal flaw - the enemies have no rotations. So it looks like they're constantly moonwalking or strafing.

>> No.5944552
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>no rotations
Why? Isn't the PS1 capable of that? I mean yeah a downgrade is expected but this is just odd

>> No.5944561

Well Doom and Powerslave on PS1 had sprites with rotations so it must've just been an issue with the port team's skill or budget.

>> No.5944564

Not that anon its capable. As usual with consoles its memory limitations.

Reminder the dark years from 2004 to 2014 consoles had zero fucking ram. even recently as much as a whooping 512 megs.

>> No.5944569

Still to add. Hexen was decent on ps1 with pretty good framerate actually.

But I was already playing it on pc back then. Good times when I discovered those including powerslave in the saturn.

>> No.5944584

how does one become a secondary for doom?
that's like tetris for fps
everyone should have touched it at least once

>> No.5944606
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Still working on my third map.

>> No.5944635


>> No.5944653
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Continued work on my second map. I still need to find an eerie midi for it, anyone got some suggestions?

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>> No.5944665

I need this.

>> No.5944721
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Are there any megawads designed around playing pacifist? That is to say the levels are explicitly made for pacifist, possibly with a dehacked or more modern gameplay patch to remove your ability to harm enemies altogether?

>> No.5944738

I guess maybe Arch-Vile Jump? In that your objective is to use their hellfire attacks to propel you past obstacles to proceed, and you're not supposed to kill them.

>> No.5944741
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Not him but
>get lambda
>"hmm what if I played this with the quake movement mod? it usually doesnt work with other mods"
>try out lambda by itself
>load up quake movement mod
>it shows the menu for the different modes of movement
>choose q1 movement
>mfw playing with hl1 weaps without sucky damage values and bhopping around and going fast

this is sex

>> No.5944747

> gc
> tasteful
lmaoing at your life

>> No.5944754

What's Lambda like? Does it have actual spritework or is it just hideous model rips?

>> No.5944758

Neither. It's the actual 3D models from HL animated in engine.

>> No.5944763

They're actual 3d models. They're pixellated as hell if you don't have filters on, but you could probably make them look closer to their original counterparts if you did. The only downside is, well, >using filters. They look nice either way tho to be desu.

Also I would recommend the quake movement mod, but I can't for the life of me remember the link for the GItHub page. Someone here probably has it, but it's super underrated, even if it doesn't work with some mods for some reason.

>> No.5944816

pro "Life's a Beach" when civvie

>> No.5944818

When it stops being cold out.

>> No.5944827

pro heretic when civvie

>> No.5944839

Thanks, that should keep me busy for a while.

>> No.5944841

came here to download the WADs again, obligatory bumb

>> No.5944849

The token is appreciated but the thread's at bump limit.

>> No.5944856

Which movement mod did you use? Are there any other good ones too?

>> No.5944858

Try Ancient Aliens

>> No.5944860
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>> No.5944868

Thank you. I really love the colors from what I saw.

>> No.5944893

Didn’t he already skip to Heretic 2?

>> No.5944901

He did a Heretic 2 video, yeah, but has only done Doom, Doom 2, Plutonia, and Sigil for the Doom engine.

>> No.5944915

what am i looking at

>> No.5944920

the void looking at you

>> No.5944935

Is there a known method for kiting or stun locking Mancubi? Or is strafing and keeping distance the only optimal way?
Map makers seem to love putting them in fairly closed in areas.

>> No.5944941

Stunlocking a mancubus isn't hard, just use a plasma rifle. Chaingun is also somewhat reliable if you're holding the fire and not tap-firing, though it's not 100%.

>> No.5944946

Thanks. I never took notice to the plasma rifle stunlocking consistently, I always figured it was the same as the chaingun.

>> No.5944947

A delayed game is eventually good (usually), but a rushed game is bad forever.

>> No.5944952

>Not "a rushed game is bad eternally"

>> No.5944962

That Miyamoto quote was before the prevalence of Day 1 patches.

>> No.5944965


Found it, actually. It's got Quake 1-Champs movement styles. Someone also did one that's more based on Q3's movement but idk where that is. Also someone did one that recreate's Dusk's movement style as well. I recommend that one as well.

>> No.5944972

Fucking mimics.

>> No.5944976

Was Quake 2 meant to be played with the textures filtered?

>> No.5944978

left right left
you dont even need to be far away

>> No.5944981

There are very few examples of a game being dogshit at launch and then magically getting patched into being good. For every No Man's Sky (which took several years and a ton of man-hours/cost which only happened because the devs cared about their product despite its launch) there are hundreds of games that are shit at launch and then are immediately labeled as lost causes by the publisher. DNF could have been salvaged comparing its release to its DLC expansion, if they sunk more time into it after that, but why would you do that when your game had such a universally-negative reception? You'd be burning money, better to cut your losses.

The main thing to be worried about with Eternal, in my opinion, is just the fact that they might patch in some nasty shit that otherwise wouldn't have been in the game, like microtransactions.

>> No.5944984

Ahh shit. Missed opportunity.
Which are cancer and you know it. Shoulda fixed it before release.

>> No.5944985


>> No.5945037
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this is an idea I'm not going to use in this manner.

>> No.5945052

Don't drown, ditherman!

>> No.5945053

sprite with an offset that puts it below the floor to fake underwater (under ice?) entities?

>> No.5945056
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Oh noes! He's dithering away!

>> No.5945058
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It's a midtexture with a negative offset. Close enough. A sprite would work too.
Goodbye ditherman. We hardly knew ye...

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>> No.5945095
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Lambda should have been quad damage of HL.

>> No.5945098

And Ivan the space biker should have been the protagonist.

>> No.5945160

The midi from map 18 from S.T.R.A.I.N. is pretty eerie. I used it for a map of mine once.

>> No.5945163

That's actually what replaces the quad damage pickup/icon in Deathmatch Classic.

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it's crude and dumb
but it functions

>> No.5945170

[angry clopping noises]

>> No.5945171

i imagine that's what /mlp/ is like now

>> No.5945185

doesn't work with mods because it overrides many PlayerPawn method, which naturally only makes it accessible to player classes that inherit from it
it's not very hard to make most mods compatible with it (drop the zscript in, make the player classes inherit from QuakeAccelPlayer instead of PlayerPawn), but that requires you to edit the mod directly
it was really meant as a modding resource, with the available classes just being there to demo the movement

>> No.5945187

Am I a shitter for liking the pump shotgun more than the SSG?

>> No.5945191

No, the normal shotgun is a perfectly functional and reliable weapon. It's just the SSG is often superior just because it inexplicably fires more pellets when you use it so it's technically more ammo efficient in most scenarios.

>> No.5945195

>you will never have a qt pain elemental waiting for you in your bed
why even live

>> No.5945218

Just imagine the child support you'd have to pay for the infinite lost souls.

>> No.5945223
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Not really. A poser can be someone who doesn't show much interest in the game itself and more on fanarts and crappy trending memes.
Twitter is full of those but it's tiresome and was said to death here.That little shit is possibly underage just to add more fuel to that dumpster fire

Lambda is so great. Opposing Force weapons but as Gordon and the option to choose between Original and HD models? Count me in.
The fact is playable with any monster wad makes it even more awesome.

Don't forget there are plenty of rushed games that turned out to be good, like Crash Twinsanity.Not a masterpiece but good.
In the end i don't care about the cut content as long the game is fun.

About the delayed games don't forget Aliens Colonial Marines. The xenomorph AI was fucked because of one error in the code. It could've easily been patched right away but Greasy Bastard was too busy focusing on Memelands 2.

>> No.5945224
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>Stand directly infront of Pain Elemental
>No more child support

>> No.5945225

pain elementals are for hugs

>> No.5945228

Pain Elemental should fucking die

>> No.5945235


>> No.5945241
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Okay you entitled ass, take this and leave me alone!: https://m.imgur.com/a/4paak

>> No.5945247
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Fine, take this.
Happy now?

>> No.5945248
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Thank you

>> No.5945251


>> No.5945252

What's your opinion on Eternal's art direction?
Do you think they're going a bit too overboard with it?

>> No.5945259
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How do you guys have your DOOM folders setup? I need a clean organized way to do it

>> No.5945265 [DELETED] 

I think you should fuck off to >>>/v/, zoomoid

>> No.5945267

There are things I like: general redesigns and environments which try to replicate the classic style.
Then have minor things I don't like:Doom Hunter and Marauder. Too overdesigned and generally not that interesting.

Overall I enjoy the direction they're taking

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>the leaker that told us about that was debunked by Hugo Martin himself
>not enough support for Quake Champions or another attempt of that (not including those fucking swedes from MachineGames).
Just look at him and tell me if he needs help (because all he knew are already DEAD).

>> No.5945271


>> No.5945274

I put Megawads and map packs in their own section.
For addons aesthetically, like lights, textures and huds.
Music addons
>Gameplay mods
Each one with their own folder
Sometimes per franchise in case it has more mods based on them(ex. Wolfenstein)

>> No.5945275

crash is the only girl that will reply to your chat messages

>> No.5945276

That's bullying.

>> No.5945279

what a slut

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>> No.5945290

Acclaim's marketing team was crazy.

>> No.5945297

Correction: Crash is the only one who will 100% of the time.

>> No.5945302

I'm enjoying them replicating the classic style as well, enemies having their more distinct designs seems like a nice change of pace.
Was there something in particular you felt was overdesigned on the Doom Hunter? I like the cyber-demon aesthetic, so it was nice to see.
Otherwise I agree with the Marauder: The axe looks silly, and the design overall doesn't look demonic enough. I don't know how to feel about the super shotgun

Mine is setup, Audio, Gameplay, Wads, Visual. I denote what the gameplay mod changes in their folder name, weapons, enemies, classes.

Can't get a good discussion on /v/. Besides, it's nice getting opinions and criticism from those who may prefer the older games.

>> No.5945313

I meant both in Q3A and real life

>> No.5945336
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Doom Hunter has too much stuff going on,too overdetailed.
There are pieces that feel slapped in there just for the sake of being there.
About the Marauder, he's like a Fantasy MMO reject, not bad but doesn't feel like a demon either.
Just not memorable.

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Working on aimbot/smartgun mode for the gast gun.

>> No.5945347

And sometimes even disrespectful as well. Like that Shadow Man 2 ad.
"Would you mind if we put this ad of our game on your dear dead one tombstone ?"

>> No.5945351

I see your point now. If it were up to me, I'd remove the chainsaw and shoulder pad, make his gun apart of his arm too. There likely is a point to be made about an enemy having too much of an arsenal.

>> No.5945364

>shhotable switch at the end of a level in Master Levels map

Is this normal? Is that used much in Doom?

>> No.5945365
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Many compared it to the Necron Destroyer from Warhammer. Except the latter feels more simple despite the incredible amount of details.
The Doom Hunter feels like they wanted to give him a big arsenal and clearly wanted to show it off. Like an Apocalypse Tank from Red Alert except it flies.
It just has too many odd design choices that coudl've been better if they were more streamlined.

>> No.5945368

Doom 2 Map18 has one

>> No.5945369

>clearly meant for nothing but battle
>exposed bright red tubes leading to what is presumably its heart
yes perfect

>> No.5945375

It is literally 3d with pixel filter, anon.
It may look impressive at times, but most often it looks.lazy. At least they used lowpoly models.

>> No.5945384
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>Tubes that clearly are connected to the heart
>Unless they're made of some "demonic" material he's fucked
>No protection for the right arm, despite everything else does.
>if you climb on top of it, like Doomslayer does,can't reach you because his arms are busy
>He's pretty slow as well so... Can't shrug him off either
>Unless has a shield but is unlikely

I know I'm nitpicking but this thing doesn't seem functional at all.
Even the Stroggs looked more practical than this

>> No.5945386

i don't like it either
its not a demon
its half a torso and a skull stretched over a big robot

>> No.5945478

Same, they really suck at making new designs.

>> No.5945509

It has a Halo shield, where plasma does more damage against it.
Probably a way to differentiate all of the automatic weapons now that they're no longer hitscan.

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I know, so?

Its still a vibe love, instead of garbage space opera, I appreciate the whole sci fi fantasy high than life thing.

Straight out of heayv metal magazine with wolfships and green computer lady bobbies.

>> No.5945562

Looks like shit. But then again I also felt doom 4 was meh as fuck.

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>> No.5945621

I like that it's attempting to give its take on heaven and the earth setting looks very vibrant but I hope they spice it up with more than just cityscapes.

The redesigns work better than 2016's weaksauce reinterpretations of the monsters, but I'm wondering where they're going with all the gray on the baron of hell. I was also hoping they'd ditch the lame pinky as well but doesn't seem like it. I feel that particular monster exemplifies everything that was wrong with 2016's game sense and art direction. I'm not feeling the archvile either. Hope they keep iterating the green UI to something less shit.

>> No.5945632

I honestly don't care much for Half-Life's original low definition models, so I can't say that's particularly attractive to me.

>> No.5945649

The summoner was pretty good.

>> No.5945661

it looks like the C&C Nod meme Cyborg
someone post it

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>> No.5945672

Hey man, when it's all cold, going on a tropic vacation is just all the more appealing.
More people need to learn about that expansion btw, because it's just so fun.

>> No.5945674
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The summoner was good. It stands out over other designs.
It reminds me of the Angel of Death from Hellboy 2.
Come to think of it,Hugo Martin worked with Guillermo del Toro in terms of designs,so it might be his idea to make it look so similiar.
He even worked for Pacific Rim,in fact Doomslayer looks like a green Gipsy Danger and the Cyberdemon looks like a Kaiju,

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Yeah, is really good.

>> No.5945748

Very nice

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