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5926606 No.5926606 [Reply] [Original]

Games with soul vs the soulless remixes of them

>> No.5926617

>>5926606
Did you know?: Gunpei Yokoi pushed for the inclusion of hardware-based SOUL support on the Game Boy even if it increased costs significantly

>> No.5926619

The pallette of the left is too white and not green enough. Tune your settings if you're using RetroArch.

>> No.5926621

>>5926619
OG Game Boy screen is the polar opposite of soul.
The Pocket’s screen? Now THAT is soul.

>> No.5926725

I'm gonna be the one to say it; a game isn't devoid of soul if it's remade, it's the game not the graphics that're soulful.

>> No.5926727
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5926727

>>5926606

>> No.5926742

>>5926606
You're soulless. Nintendo wanted to bring a beloved game to a new generation of kids in an accessible manner and you just want to swing your dick around and spout nonsense about how "new bad hurhurhur" . Nintendo have made a faithful remake with some pretty good Qol improvements. The original is easily over a decade old now, what do you even have to be mad about?

>> No.5926747

>>5926742
The fluctuating framerate. Dunno why they didn’t just cap it at 30.

>> No.5926754

>>5926727
game?

>> No.5926783

>>5926742
Its absurd price tag.

>> No.5926805

>>5926783
How so?

>> No.5926810

>>5926754
I believe that's Yu-No

>> No.5926836

>>5926606
The remake has really charming graphics and I don't doubt it's a good game, but the SOUL it's in the original. A really limited hardware being used wisely is one of the greatest things old gaming had.
Nowadays, with almost unlimited power, it's more difficult to see things like that.

>> No.5926843

>>5926836
>A really limited hardware being used wisely is one of the greatest things old gaming had.
the Switch literally chugs to keep up sometimes lol
>Nowadays, with almost unlimited power, it's more difficult to see things like that.
are you on crack?

>> No.5926853

>>5926621
OG game boy green DMG screen is peak SOUL, though.
>>5926619
That's the default Super Game Boy palette for Link's Awakening and has a high concentration of SOUL, however, OP's screenshots are stretched and in the incorrect ratio, which takes a considerable amount of SOUL back.

>> No.5926889

>>5926843
>are you on crack?
Can you see nowadays companies like Capcom ,Sega or Nintendo working with hardwares that can only show a couple of colors, have 8-bits sound, low memory, etc? Back then, arcades were the big thing, but consoles or portable devices were really limited, so companies had to learn to adapt to those huge limitations and be creative. That's why you can see a lot of posts in forums about "games that pushed the hardware to the max" always refereing to retrogames, or at least to consoles until PS3 came.

>> No.5926891

>>5926889
if they knew more they'd be able to give modern examples

>> No.5926914

>>5926606
Soul is a dumb meaningless buzzword, no matter how much you newfags keep spamming it. Keep trying to fit in by saying DURR NEW GAME WORSE THAN OLD GAME DURRR! though.

>> No.5926917 [DELETED] 

>>5926606

>>5926870

>> No.5926919 [DELETED] 

>>5926917
whoops, meant to link >>5926902

>> No.5926929

>>5926914
>>5926902
>but the key part of the design is their attack animation. in the original when a dino spots you, he has to flick his guns up into the air and catch them, because being a t-rex his arms are too short and stubby to actually draw his weapons. it's such a charming, humourous little detail and the fact that the remake completely ruined it shows the lack of care they applied to redesigning these games
like a lot of other stuff on 4chan, soul and soullessness is being ruined by those who don't give a fuck
then people like you fail to understand the true meaning behind the usage of the term

>> No.5926930

Soul is when your imagination can participate in how the game would look in real life. Soulless means what you see is what you get, possibly breaking immersion.

>> No.5926938 [DELETED] 

>>5926929
I don't give a fuck what you think 'soul' means or doesn't mean
the fact remains reignited is a thoughtless remake

>> No.5926939

>muh soul muh soulless
Reminder to hide all reddit threads

>> No.5926942

>>5926929
>then people like you fail to understand the true meaning behind the usage of the term
Actually I do understand what you're talking about and that's that you're spouting bullshit while you think you have something to say. You say yourself that the terms are meaningless so stop using them if you want anyone that isn't underage, retarded or drunk to take you seriously.

>> No.5926965

>>5926942
excuse me but are you legitimately retarded?
>>5926938
but that's the thing about what you said, you could say the remake is soulless

>> No.5926970 [DELETED] 

>>5926965
>you could say the remake is soulless
I guess I could. I didn't, but I could. I'm not entirely sure what you're arguing here.

>> No.5926971

>>5926810
No I don't, that's why I was asking.

>> No.5926972

>>5926606
Can you turn off the tilt shift effect in the remake?

>> No.5926985

This soul/soulless shit needs to stop along with based/cringe. And get rid of kino while we're at it.

>> No.5926987 [DELETED] 

>>5926985
You're right, thiSneeds to stop.

>> No.5926992

>>5926987
You can get rid of that one too. It's just as retarded.

>> No.5926998 [DELETED] 

>>5926992
This.

>> No.5927025

>>5926606
I love the look of the remake so much but from what I understand it's pretty much the same game and I'm not a huge Zelda fan so I'm not sure if it's worth playing.

>> No.5927032

>>5926998>>5926992>>5926987>>5926985
we can get rid of you

>> No.5927046

>>5926985
It's just idiot kids who don't know how to articulate a thought without leaning on buzzwords as a crutch. It's handy when they use words like that because you can easily disregard everything else they say.

>> No.5927056 [DELETED] 

>>5927032
epic

>> No.5927057

>>5926606
I personally see SOUL SOUL

>> No.5927106

>>5927046
you're supposed to press people for information not be clueless, read into what people mean to convey, not project and assume
>meaningless
>buzz words

>> No.5927121

>>5927106
No. If someone uses an empty buzzword instead of articulating a real thought it's not on me to try and wrestle something more intelligible out of them. To me it's just a sign they're not intelligent enough to bother having a conversation with.

>> No.5927124

>>5927121
buzz words convey a lot of info to those who understand them
you know why memes are powerful?

>> No.5927125

>>5926606
So what your screenshot is saying is that this a blues guitar situation in which selling your soul lets you make a better product.

>> No.5927134

>>5926621
No

>> No.5927157

>>5927124
Well I still consider them very weak compared to speaking meaningfully with one's own words. Even knowing what the word is meant to convey I find it a childish way of trying to express a thought. It's why they're useful for weeding out people I don't deem worth exchanging ideas with.

>> No.5927363

>>5926606
This remake really shows how lazy Nintendo has gotten. Just look at the dog in the pics. They couldn't even get that right. It was originally a German Shepherd and they turned it into a fox. They don't even know their own material.

>> No.5927387

>>5927106
>you're supposed to press people
Fuck no, you aren't. Being able to say what you mean is a basic function of a brain that's higher than adolescent age. You really think it's normal to need your hand held to lead you into what YOU'RE trying to say? I hope you know members of your generation are dragging down the standards of "mental retard" because we need workers.

>> No.5927404

>>5927157
then this whole website 'is cancer'

>> No.5927406

>>5927387
being able to refrain from over indulgence is another basic function of a brain
if you can convey all you're wanting with very few words you opt for that to save energy
if your understandings upset me I call you stupid

>> No.5927412

>>5926606
that blur really bothers me

>> No.5927480

>>5926742
>Nintendo wanted to bring a beloved game to a new generation of kids in an accessible manner
Did the original game stop existing?

>> No.5927513

>>5927412
The worst part is you can't even turn it off.

>> No.5927517

>>5926727
This shitty new design over time sure shows

>> No.5927537

>>5927480
No, but kids stopped finding spending more time swapping items than playing acceptable. Technology has progressed, why not older games along with it?

>> No.5927550

>>5927404
Nah, not everyone is quite as worthless as you.

>> No.5927565 [DELETED] 

>>5927404
And?

>> No.5927567

>>5927550
says the fuck nugget who doesn't understand that a conversation or proper dialogue has reciprocation to unveil more and more
instead opts for one liners and simple dissertations for information
fuck off cancer
you fucking suck

>> No.5927691

>>5927537
Because the more you change the game, the less it is that game. If the original was so beloved for what it was, remaking it with a completely different look and feel and then expecting it to be beloved just the same because it has the same name makes no sense.

>> No.5927702

>>5927537
if they fucking cared they'd let you hold more than two fucking items, go on and spend 60

>> No.5927773
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5927773

>>5926621
You guys are cute

>> No.5927808

>>5927567
I understand just fine how conversations work, and that's why I see no point in trying to have one with someone who uses pointless buzzwords instead of starting off with something meaningful. How unsurprising that you also throw "cancer" around so much and get angry at the notion of having to put effort into articulating yourself.

>> No.5927812

>>5927808
I'm tired of this shitty board. vr isn't so bad but v

>> No.5927846

>>5927812
That's why I work to make it better by insisting people properly express their ideas instead of just using lazy buzzwords.

>> No.5927849

>>5926727

Japan literally cannot design women anymore. Moe shit has infected everything. The woman on the left looks 30-ish, while on the right looks like a teen with big tits. Note the far narrower shoulders and other features that point to being physically immature.

>> No.5927881

>>5926805
$60 for a lazy remake billed as the same game yet made by people who have nothing to do with the original developers or the ideas behind its development.

>> No.5927887

>>5926853
Good to know about the pallette, since that's basically how it appears on my Wii, too. Last/first time I stuck that game into the SGB, the internal battery ""conveniently"" died, so I never tried it in there again.

>> No.5927996

>>5926606
LA has the best sword swing in the series. Just hope they didn't fuck that up.

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5928051

Not Vidya but this is honestly one of the best examples.

>> No.5928296

>>5928051
they have so much more money now too

>> No.5928424

>>5927849
>japs are pedos in disguise
more news at eleven

>> No.5928464

>>5926606
K you start

>> No.5928468

>>5927849
You know I was wondering why the woman on the left has bigger eyes but the one on the right looks like a girl.

Moeshit is death

>> No.5928598

>>5928051
>Not Vidya
So don't fucking post it.

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>> No.5928973
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>> No.5928994

>>5928969
A perfect example of why it's impossible to take these idiots seriously.

>> No.5929009

>>5928994
because you like ugly hexagonal spiders with stripes and plungers on their feet?
and you prefer an inflatable yoshi with goggles over a mysterious beast?

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>> No.5929061

>>5929040
Did someone hurt your nostalgia for a remake, faggot?

>> No.5929105

>>5929061
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTATk-25sOQ

>> No.5929174
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>> No.5929181
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>> No.5929412

>>5927406
No, you're right. That's why I wouldn't "indulge" someone who doesn't know how to form sentences without a chaperone, into using language like a real person. I get that elucidating is normal but what we're talking about here is these stupid, meaningless meme words. Throwing them around and saying "you're supposed to pay us even more attention to get our real intended meaning out of this buzzwords" is half witted, narcissistic drivel. It's making a lot of assumptions to think what they couldn't even get across right the first time would warrant any more than a sideways glance.

>> No.5929414

>>5929174
OUCH.
Style>Realism

>> No.5929442

>>5926606
Soul: looks like the games I grew up with.
Soulless: doesn't look like the games I grew up with.

>> No.5929446

>>5926727
Holy shit this one is unironically soul vs soulless. Fuck you for making me say it and fuck whoever did this.

>> No.5929459

>>5929181
>Donkey Kong Jr and Yoshi are actually transformed kings of the Mushroom Kingdom

>> No.5929470

>>5929412
>"you're supposed to pay us even more attention to get our real intended meaning out of this buzzwords" is half witted, narcissistic drive
if you're not engaging someone in conversation you might as well just not pay them any attention at all?
why would any normal layman describe in elaborate detail how something seems when they can say either "it's cool" or "it sucks" those are common buzzwords but the point stays the same, when you're dealing with highly subjective and nuanced topics then you have to pay attention to ascertain meaning, like what you're trying to do to me now, or I am trying to do vice versa.

>> No.5929474

>>5929442
The tilt shift and chibi models do look like complete trash man.
Theres no defending links remakening

>> No.5929479

They both look white and green.

>> No.5929495
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5929495

SOUL

>> No.5929497
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5929497

>>5929495
soulless

>> No.5929503
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>>5929495
>>5929497
they really ruined him after adventure

>> No.5929543

>>5929474
>The tilt shift and chibi models do look like complete trash man.
We are talking about different things here: you are talking about whether something looks good or not.

Cae in point:
>>5928969
>>5928973
All look "soulful", but what is actually being argued against is that the remakes look uglier. Something like >>5926727 is the closest example to actual "soul/soulless"... but it would be a lie, because while the latter looks like "generic anime", the former ALSO looks like generic anime, just from a different era. Thus, it also boils down to "old = prettier, new = uglier" which has no bearing in the terms "soul"/"soulless".

>> No.5929596

>>5929543
I'm replying to myself because I know some people will question what I mean by
>generic anime
I know there's more than one style of anime, what I mean is that these previous style that looks so "unique" by comparison wasn't unique at all back in the 80s, you could find it everywhere just like you can find that newer style everywhere as well.

>> No.5929627

>>5926606
Tries to illustrate SOUL with emulator screen shots. Whew lad. Get some real hardware sport, OG Gameboy is $30 for great condition, LA is like $15. For less than the cost of the new COD you can play like a big boy.

>> No.5929657

>>5926606
Anyone who brings up this stupid soul/soulless shit is a disgusting fucking boomer.

>> No.5929662

>>5926727
jap coomshit is now soul?

>> No.5929680

>>5929181
I love the original SMB3 transformed kings, but having SMB2 cameos and even original sprites of DK Jr and Yoshi is pretty damn soulful if you ask me.
As always, it's great that both original SMB3 and All-Stars versions have their differences, so playing both makes it worthwhile, instead of it just being exactly like the NES SMB3 but with more colors.

>> No.5929684

>>5929181
>that Yoshi sprite
Holy shit, it looks almost like the one from Yoshi's Island, and All-Stars was like 2 years earlier.