Only retarded zoomers like this shitty game and think it's better than the original. As garbage as Bioshock.

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Anonymous Mon Sep 30 15:25:23 2019 No.5918404 [DELETED]

Only retarded zoomers like this shitty game and think it's better than the original.
As garbage as Bioshock.

Anonymous Mon Sep 30 15:49:31 2019 No.5918441
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>>5918404
I like SS1 just fine but frankly anybody who claims to not regard 2 as a massive improvement in every single respect over the original is either retarded or just being a dishonestly contrarian faggot. Piss of either way TIA.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 30 15:52:43 2019 No.5918449 SS1 is pretty mediocre. Ultima Underworld is better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 30 15:59:07 2019 No.5918461 >>5918449 >>5918441 kys ss2 zoomers.

Anonymous Mon Sep 30 16:04:54 2019 No.5918473

>>5918404
SS2 adds a lot of new features, while still keeping most of SS1's. It also has a UI and controls that aren't a bizarre mess. It's a straight up upgrade in a lot of ways. I also think SHODAN is at her best in the second game. SS1 is still great though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 30 16:06:13 2019 No.5918478 >>5918473 >>5918449 >>5918441 see >>5918147 >>5918457

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 30 16:07:32 2019 No.5918483 Could anyone explain to me how exactly SS1 is the better game? Give me a serious answer, not "lmao zoomer".

Anonymous Mon Sep 30 16:12:42 2019 No.5918492
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>>5918473
It brought back UU's magic system as psionics, has much better AI, and is far more systemic with you being able to do things like hitting a metal pipe to lure a hybrid around a corner, crushing a maintenance droid by dropping an elevator on it in cargo bay, or setting yourself on fire to avoid damage from explosions and incendiary monkeys. Systemically, SS2 blows the first game out of the water and all arguments in favor of SS1 are things like "the laser rapier was stronger" or "the mazes were bigger".

Anonymous Mon Sep 30 16:25:43 2019 No.5918516

>>5918483
The maps are much bigger and more fun to explore. For example, all your buffs will reset on every map change, so you need to rebuff all the time, especially running speed. Even more so when you have to backtrack. For a psy character this is especially annoying. And the other classes are boring, why would you play them?

Also the simmy feel of body kinematics is great. Leaning especially feels strangely satisfying and realistic. but also the way you bump off walls when you run/jump into them.

The music, too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz1wlcZnhv8

I also really dig the graphics. Looks kinda futuristic and modern at this point, especially with the banding-free OpenGL renderer.

Anonymous Mon Sep 30 16:27:40 2019 No.5918525

>>5918492
SS2 also has a much better story and more interesting enemies. SS2's enemies have a lot more personality and have some pretty great lines. Mainly the mind controlled zombie dudes and the protocol droids. The research mechanic is also great. Being able to research dead enemies so you can do more damage to them and get a little bio for them is awesome.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 30 16:34:31 2019 No.5918538 >>5918516 Those are some valid points, but SS2 just has so many improvements over SS1 it isn't enough for me to say SS1 really is better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 30 17:22:57 2019 No.5918623 >>5918404 Prey 2017 is the best Shock game there is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 30 19:41:48 2019 No.5918876 >>5918492 >has much better AI Barely any of the enemies can deal with the high level tactic of 'walking backwards'

Anonymous Mon Sep 30 20:49:25 2019 No.5919032

>>5918525
>pretentious meta narrative ending with the characters acting like one-dimensional retards
>SS2 also has a much better story
Pick one
>SS2's enemies have a lot more personality and have some pretty great lines.
>endless respawning spiders, monkeys, turrets, and zombies that just repeat the same stock variation of KILL ME and JOIN US
No

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 30 21:03:01 2019 No.5919069 >>5918876 as opposed to system shock 1 where they stand in a narrow corridor hitscanning or move forwards towards the player in a straight line

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 30 21:08:19 2019 No.5919076 >>5919032 >>5918147 cope schizo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 1 12:00:46 2019 No.5920412 >when /v/ runs out of platforms to war over, so turns to starting bitchfests over games in a series Stop feeding the retards people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 1 23:45:49 2019 No.5921789 >>5918404 Nah

Anonymous Tue Oct 1 23:50:03 2019 No.5921802

>>5918492
Psi blows. Those fuckers will insta hitscan you or toss grenades at you before you can let off a single fireball or whatever. I also hate that the fan patch also further nerfs the shit out of psi by making dumb changes like localized pyro no longer protecting you from explosions.

Anonymous Tue Oct 1 23:55:57 2019 No.5921813

>>5919032
>>5918478
SS2 ending is shit, everyone agrees on that. It wasnt the intended original ending.
>“Due to miscommunications or differing ideas, a different cinematic video was created from the one that I originally scripted,” says Levine. “It had this elaborate sequence where Shodan would attempt to kill you in a double-cross, as this ‘cyber stinger’ that was in view provided tension of your impending doom.” Upon getting his hands on the video for the ending sequence, Levine didn’t see anything that he wrote in the script. “We didn’t have much to work with. It was like when you look in the cupboard and you’re trying to make soup, and you have a bag of salt and couple of pinto beans.” Working with fixed assets can be extremely challenging especially with limited time and resources as well as fighting the technology back then. Levine remembers, “We had to write to the assets we had at that point, and all we could do was edit it. We completely ran out of time and that cut scene wasn’t the right ending for the game.”

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 00:06:07 2019 No.5921826 SS2babies can't bring up good arguments. Sad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 02:58:13 2019 No.5921982 >>5921826 *SS1babies Sorry for the typo

Anonymous Wed Oct 2 05:45:38 2019 No.5922162

>>5921802
>I also hate that the fan patch also further nerfs the shit out of psi by making dumb changes like localized pyro no longer protecting you from explosions.
The only thing SCP has changed in this regard is removing immunity from exploding protocol droids, which makes sense given that vanilla's Localized Pyro didn't offer immunity to explosions from other mechs, rockets, slug-turrets, and grenades (except incendiary).

Anonymous Wed Oct 2 09:24:18 2019 No.5922429

>>5918441
SS2 added a lot of unnecessary shit that just made things more complicated to make them complicated. You telling me if I fire a gun more than a few times it's going to break? Research was tedious having to deal with all the chemicals. Enemy spawns would happen in rooms you had just cleared once you moved to the next room, so you get attacked from behind from somewhere you thought was safe. Tying all the weapons to different skills for reasons. If I can pull the trigger on one gun, I can pull the trigger on literally any gun. The game also had a bland pallet and smudgy filtered graphics.

Anonymous Wed Oct 2 09:34:56 2019 No.5922443

>>5922429
Much of the "unnecessary shit" were present on UU, and removed from SS1, then put back in SS2.

>You telling me if I fire a gun more than a few times it's going to break? Research was tedious having to deal with all the chemicals.
Yes, you need to have an IQ of over 90 to see the appeal.

>Enemy spawns would happen in rooms you had just cleared once you moved to the next room, so you get attacked from behind from somewhere you thought was safe.
This is whole fucking point of the game, you retarded zoomer. You're not supposed to feel "safe" on any point of the game, nor to be taking a nice stroll around the station, but rather, to be in a constant state of danger and tension. That's what makes the atmosphere of the game. Don't like it? Go play walking simulators, that might be more up to your alley.

>Tying all the weapons to different skills for reasons. If I can pull the trigger on one gun, I can pull the trigger on literally any gun.
As said, there's a minimum IQ requirement to play.

>The game also had a bland pallet and smudgy filtered graphics.
They were amazing for the time, zoomer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 11:03:47 2019 No.5922563 >>5918404 fuck system shock 1/2 and Bioshock play quake you niggers

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 11:09:45 2019 No.5922576 >>5918404 i have the big box version, didnt even bother to open that shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 11:15:40 2019 No.5922589 >>5918404 Did anyone actually make anything for SS1 since the Enhanced Edition added native mod support or is there just no interest at all?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 14:56:47 2019 No.5923018 >>5918404 It is much better than the original though, SS1 was a nice experiment, but it isn't even nearly as good as Ultima Underworld, SS2 or Arx Fatalis.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 19:13:26 2019 No.5923519 >>5922429 >The game also had a bland pallet and smudgy filtered graphics. Objectively wrong. I bet youre a queer and played it with the shitty HD model and texturre mods

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 2 19:35:04 2019 No.5923553 is metroid prime 3 an immersive sim?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 05:14:42 2019 No.5924453 >>5922576 glad you wasted your money faggot

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 09:37:15 2019 No.5924695 >>5922443 >>5923519 I love how when people can't actually give a rebuttal to an argument, they just resort to shit flinging. Me: 2 You fags: 0 Come at me with an actual counter argument or I'll obtain more points.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 09:52:10 2019 No.5924719 >>5922443 >>5923519 Dark Engine visuals were considered mediocre even at release, zoomers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 09:53:46 2019 No.5924720 >>5923018 >It is much worse than the original though Sure is. >UU, SS2, Arx Aka games SS1 made better by carving out the bloat.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 09:54:48 2019 No.5924724 >>5923553 For casuals yes. Also >imemesive sim Kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 10:22:35 2019 No.5924773 >>5924695 >Literally give a real argument >Counters with "it's not an argument"!!!! More proof that zoomers are scum

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 10:59:10 2019 No.5924854 >>5924720 How someone can parrot this trash and accuse others of being zoomers is beyond me. Also stop bumping your own thread you pathetic piece of shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 11:22:48 2019 No.5924894 SS2BABIES MAD.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 11:28:01 2019 No.5924912 Damn, did the anti-Halflifefag move on to shitting on SS2? Guess he was tired no one took his autism seriously.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 12:27:59 2019 No.5925042 >>5922563 fuck idshit play blood you nigger

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 12:37:53 2019 No.5925068 >>5918404 OK

Anonymous Thu Oct 3 13:52:40 2019 No.5925219
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>>5924719
No it wasnt, stop lying zoomer. People complained about Thief not looking as good as other games, but System Shock 2 was considered a major improvement and on par with most major games. Shock 2 arguably looks better than Thief 2.
Everyone thought the ship looked beautiful and was extremely atmospheric. Go look for yourself, search critical reviews or forum posts from 1999-2000 and they gush about how great the game looks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 14:03:29 2019 No.5925229 >>5922563 Boy I do love gray and brown bricks

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 16:57:07 2019 No.5925620 >>5918623 no

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 18:29:55 2019 No.5925862 >>5918623 haha fuck no

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 18:31:01 2019 No.5925868 >>5922563 i fiddle both so what i have won?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 18:44:31 2019 No.5925893 >>5925868 takes a huge shit in your mouth enjoy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 18:56:13 2019 No.5925932 >>5925893 Back to /v/ with you kiddie

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 19:04:30 2019 No.5925952 >>5925932 teleports behind you kicks your knees out knock you to the ground step over you pull my pants down spread my butt cheeks put my asshole directly on your mouth shart like I'm in a mart

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 19:05:19 2019 No.5925956 >>5925952 hot

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 19:44:08 2019 No.5926036 >>5925952 I hate the influx of kiddies from 8 chan

Anonymous Thu Oct 3 20:35:28 2019 No.5926118

>>5922429
>Enemy spawns would happen in rooms you had just cleared once you moved to the next room, so you get attacked from behind from somewhere you thought was safe

are you of the belief that what you just described ISN'T something that happened fucking constantly in ss1

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 21:09:56 2019 No.5926168 I didnt even play the game but holy shit, some people here have problems. Calling someone zoomer about an ancient game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 22:27:48 2019 No.5926269 File: 208 KB, 1200x1200, a1092814965_10.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5926168 >1999 >ancient

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 22:35:00 2019 No.5926274 >>5918404 Zoomers are not playing games like this. This game is not even on their radar.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 05:23:43 2019 No.5926787 >>5925219 >didnt refute this Me: 9999 you: negative infinity forever

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 05:32:19 2019 No.5926794 >>5926269 anything older than 15 years is ancient, grandpa

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 09:30:30 2019 No.5927068 >>5924720 >Aka games SS1 made better by carving out the bloat. UW was before SS1 though

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 11:19:03 2019 No.5927213 Well, I have no horse in this race, but it seems SS3 is far more influenced by SS2 rather than SS1. Turrets, security cameras that actually spot you, wrench...

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 11:47:56 2019 No.5927267 File: 2 KB, 127x127, Phantasy Star IV (4) [!]_008.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5926269 Dont take everything so literal.

Anonymous Fri Oct 4 12:12:05 2019 No.5927327

>>5924773
Every counter you made was zoomer this, low IQ that without actually giving any real counter arguments. My points are now at 3.

>>5926118
I played through the entire original game pre-remaster and never had that problem. When you came back to floors you always had to deal with it but they weren't re-spawing 30 seconds later right behind me.

Anonymous Fri Oct 4 12:12:58 2019 No.5927330

SS1 was vastly more impressive for its time than SS2 was. SS2 didn't really bring anything new to the table, it was just a slightly more polished rehash of, basically, the same game.

Rehash it may be, but it's not a bad game by any means. Oh no, it's still one of the best games of its time, and I would still sooner sink an evening into it than any Bioshock title.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 12:42:15 2019 No.5927380 >>5927330 SS1 is just UUW with guns

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 13:23:55 2019 No.5927450 >>5926794 Same for girls.

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