Classic Pokemon thread

[Anonymous No.5916689]

Gen I and II a best

[Anonymous No.5916691]

Ampharos

[Anonymous No.5916694]

>>5916689
I like the new gens, but I miss the larger dungeons from the older ones. I also like how Gens I and II let you do some gyms out of order and explore fairly early on.

[Anonymous No.5916701]

>>5916689
Gen 2 games improved upon gen 1 with QoL changes and whatnot, but there is no reason for there to be more than 151 pokemon. Gen 2 is shit.

[Anonymous No.5916703]

Yes, I sure do love those Game Boy regions

[Anonymous No.5916715]

>>5916703

[Anonymous No.5916721]

>>5916689
I loved the slightly more mysterious/darker tone of Gen II. Your rival being an actually bad guy, the Ruins of Alph, Team Rocket searching in vain for their lost leader, the final boss being some spooky guy on a mountain who won't even talk to you... it's a shame that sort of stuff is mostly gone from the franchise now, especially after Gen IV.

[Anonymous No.5916738]

>>5916721
I also miss that. The Game Boy sound and graphics added to it too. Some of the music is pretty eerie or melancholy sounding.

[Anonymous No.5916753]

>>5916721
Gen 1 and 2 lore is way more interesting and mysterious in general, but they abandoned the original idea of the Pokemon world just being alternate-history Earth where pokemon appeared and changed the course of history. Since then it's been sterilized to hell and back and nothing is really thought-provoking in the lore any more. It's sad.

[Anonymous No.5916770]

>>5916753
>Pokemon world just being alternate-history Earth
wat

[Anonymous No.5916771]

>>5916770
There's more references to real Earth things at least.

[Anonymous No.5916772]

my current silver team

[Anonymous No.5916773]

>>5916771
Also, Mew found in South America, Lt. Surge being "The Lightning American," and Indian elephants.

[Anonymous No.5916778]

>>5916773
Kanto is the name of a real region in Japan as well.

[Anonymous No.5916794]

>>5916770
There's early anime art showing that regular animals still existed at some point. The original idea seemed to be that pokemon appeared on Earth in recent history (with some ancient, extinct pokemon being discovered later on as well) and replaced regular animals slowly over time. Nowadays the lore is just that pokemon have always existed and there have never been regular animals, which is much more sterile and boring lore.

[Anonymous No.5916798]

>>5916689
Something was lost after it moved to GBA. There's something so simple and comfortable about the original graphics.

[Anonymous No.5916803]

The Stadium games are mandatory if you're planning to replay gen 1 and 2.
They're a great addition, both for managing items/mons while you're playing the GB game, and as post-game stuff by doing the cups.

[Anonymous No.5916805]

>>5916773
That's just Guile

[Anonymous No.5916810]

Fun way to play the games if you're wanting to kill some time is to load a rom through a randomizer, choose whatever settings you want, and go from there. I like to stick with one of the 3 random starters and only use that throughout the entire game. The ample customization makes it pretty fun to dick around with and use the turbo button to go through random battles.

[Anonymous No.5916824]

>>5916772
Absolutely horrific.

[Anonymous No.5916836]

>>5916824
:((

[Anonymous No.5916838]

>>5916794
Arcanine
>A Pokémon that has been admired since the past for its beauty. It runs agilely as if on wings.

Ninetales
>According to an enduring legend, 9 noble saints were united and reincarnated as this Pokémon

The state of the world in Gen 1 has always been really contradictory, these were 2 randomly picked entries, I am sure there is more, but the "pokemon are a just recent discovery" timeline is people manually picking lore about the original games that fits their vision

[Anonymous No.5916860]

>>5916838
i'm sure that zubat and pidgey were recently discovered

[Anonymous No.5916861]

>>5916838
Legends don't deconfirm recency. Ho-Oh and Lugia were at the towers and they burned down around 1850, which is both recent and enough time for legends to confirm. It's also possible specific Legendaries like Ho-oh and Lugia were around before most other Pokemon, or the Pokemon appeared after the myths.

[Anonymous No.5916862]

Test

[Anonymous No.5916869]

>>5916794
Pokemon was just supposed to be a kaiju series, except they were small instead of big so humans could tame them. That's why they liked fighting. It was always implied they were alien too.

[Anonymous No.5916876]

Lapras
>A Pokémon that has been overhunted almost to extinction. It can ferry people across the water.

Gyarados
>Brutally vicious and enormously destructive. Known for totally destroying cities in ancient times.

>>5916860
possible, as I said early gens were very contradictory

Ninetales again
>Very smart and very vengeful. Grabbing one of its many tails could result in a 1000-year curse.

>>5916861
none of these are particularly "legendary", is just pokedex entries mentioning how they were known in the past

[Anonymous No.5916884]

>>5916876
i was being sarcastic, considering pidgey is literally their pidgeon which can be found anywhere in the sky and zubats infest every cave.

[Anonymous No.5916901]

>>5916876
>A Pokémon that has been overhunted almost to extinction.
It's not impossible for a recent (last 50 years or so) population explosion and overhunting to go hand in hand.

>Known for totally destroying cities in ancient times.
Could have been that gyarados was around in ancient times, but it wasn't until modern times that we identified exactly what it was and could study it. This is no different than if, say, we captured a sasquatch today and proved its existence for sure. We'd still call sasquatch a recent discovery even though all kinds of stories of encountering them have been around for ages, because only now did we PROVE they exist and STUDY them. Ancient stories and modern discoveries can go hand in hand.

>Grabbing one of its many tails could result in a 1000-year curse.
Come on now, someone didn't have to experience a 1000-year curse to spread the idea that a 1000-year curse could be caused. It's not as though this myth's existence means that Ninetales had to have been around for over 1000 years to date.

[Anonymous No.5916964]

soul

[Anonymous No.5916979]

>>5916794
>that idea they had for a movie where they discover a real t-rex and it comes back to life and ash has to stop it
>the movie would've also explored the question of what happened to real animals

[Anonymous No.5917021]

>>5916689
Going for night walks around towns in gen 2 was so comfortable, you could almost feel the cool night air and light breeze.

[Anonymous No.5917024]

>>5917021
and listening to some pokemon radio, the devs really knew what they were doing, they made a world you wanted to stay in.

[Anonymous No.5917041]

>>5917021
Especially since it was synched to real world time. I think it was 6 PM it would change day to night so I remember after school trying to get a little bit in while there was still daylight and then most of my adventuring was done at night after dinner. Was so cool how time affected things and was handled in Gold.

[Anonymous No.5917190]

I love these games so much, specially gold and silver. Every playthrough I go on I try to use pokemon I have never used like Stantler or Girafarig to test their power and it's very fun.

Also

>not nicknaming every pokemon you catch

[Anonymous No.5917193]

>>5916794
Why is she so perfect bros?

[Anonymous No.5917204]

>>5917193

I wish there was more art of grown up Misty from gen 2

[Anonymous No.5917268]

>>5916869
>so humans could fit them into balls that can into their pockets
ftfy

[Anonymous No.5917410]

I've played through Gen 1 a couple times in the last year or so, these are the teams I used for them. Honestly I don't think the Generation 1 games are anywhere near the best but they do have this charm to them that I don't think has been replicated since.

[Anonymous No.5917476]

>>5916772
>actually using legendaries in your team
Shit taste.

[Anonymous No.5917551]

>>5917410
Why did you keep tackle on Venusaur and Poison Sting on Nidoqueen?

[Anonymous No.5917560]

>>5916689
i just finished pokemon crystal clear
anyone knows similar rom's ?

[Anonymous No.5917562]

>>5917021
>>5917024
THIS. Man, I loved the nights in Gold and Silver. In fact the main reason I wanted the game was because it had day/night cycles. At 7 that was a huge thing for me. It was so comfy going for night walks.

Even better for me was the mornings. As an adult a few years back getting up and playing Crystal on emulator would be the first thing I did. I loved mornings. It was so bright and colorful. Imo the next best thing they could have done would have been to add in seasons changing, but I guess there were too many limitations. Gen II is definitely the most innovative of Pokémon games.

[Anonymous No.5917578]

>>5917551
For tackle I just don't think there was a move I had to replace it, I wasn't using item dupes for that run. I might have found a TM i glossed over but I don't remember.

For Nidoqueen I'm fairly certain that's literally the best STAB move it gets.

[Anonymous No.5917584]

>>5917560
Pokemon Roaming Red is basically a Gen 1 version of Crystal Clear without OC's in it.

[Anonymous No.5917591]

Pokemon was my life as a kid, or during a certain part of me being a kid

G2 let me down because I realized what it was going to become, it was just gonna become another Mario/Zelda esque Nintendo franchise where the same shit is rehashed with no story or lore being expanded upon

[Anonymous No.5917673]

>>5916701
This is ridiculous. Nobody would argue that "there is no reason to have more demons in Shin Megami Tensei" or "more enemies in Dragon Quest". Kids were super excited about all the new Pokemon back in the day.

[Anonymous No.5917682]

>>5916721
Actually Gen V had one of the darkest plots, and one of the best. Gen V is my favourite, but before that Gen II was my favourite.
Gen II does have a lot going for it though, but it was an imperfect game in a lot of ways. Crystal did make a lot of improvements though.

[Anonymous No.5917691]

>>5916794
>The original idea seemed to be that pokemon appeared on Earth in recent history (with some ancient, extinct pokemon being discovered later on as well) and replaced regular animals slowly over time
Headcanon only, just because some people thought this because some art included animals doesn't mean it was ever part of the original intent of the creators. There is no evidence that pokemon are new, or that they all came from space (there are specific pokemon that are supposed to have come from space, but that never implied all of them did) and there's absolutely nothing to suggest that pokemon replaced real animals over time. Pokedex entries that refer to animals are basically just random afterthoughts that were tacked on at the end of production.

[Anonymous No.5917694]

>>5917691
>Yes there's all this evidence that this was the intention, but it doesn't count
The 3rd movie was going to be about where Pokemon came from and what happened to real animals and shit.

[Anonymous No.5917696]

>>5917190
My nicknaming nigger
I've played so much Pokemon now though that some nicknames are starting to be pretty lame.
>Gary the Gyarados
>Sheldon the Shuckle
>Typhoid the Typhlosion
Such is life I guess

[Anonymous No.5917705]

>>5917694
>There's all this evidence, but it doesn't count
No, that's not what I said, nor is it the case. You can't cherry pick a few random pokedex entries, and combine them with references to real life locations and make the assumption that this is what the devs were going for. It's headcanon, it's never been stated by any of the developers that this is the case, it's literally autistic to believe that. You probably also think there's "evidence" to support the fucking Pokemon war ledd*t tier theory

[Anonymous No.5917716]

Gamefreak needs to nut up and make a huge 2d Pokemon from thr ground up without the old cartridge size limitations

[Anonymous No.5917717]

>>5917705
>You can't cherry pick a few random pokedex entries, and combine them with references to real life locations and make the assumption that this is what the devs were going for. It's headcanon
>Stuff that's in the game is headcanon
Are you delusional? That's literally what's there in the game.

[Anonymous No.5917727]

>>5916703
that isn't even half of the full region

[Anonymous No.5917737]

>>5917717
Some pokedex entries occasionally refer to real world animals and real world locations, they do not refer to pokemon being new or recent, they do not refer to pokemon replacing animals, those are the pieces that are headcanon, that you consider to be "evidence" that the story is that Pokemon were space aliens that landed on earth and replaced real animals.

[Anonymous No.5917803]

>>5917190
>>5917696
>nicknaming pokemon
Confirmed for being "that" kid, and very likely still "that" guy.

[Anonymous No.5917818]

>>5917803
>not nicknaming Pokemon, being threatened by those who do
Guaranteed to have been a boring kid, and still a boring guy to this day b

[Anonymous No.5917885]

>>5917476
>not using the cover legendary on your in-game team
eat shit, virgin

[Anonymous No.5917981]

>>5916689

[Anonymous No.5917993]

>>5917818
Confirmed for "that" guy. Be less weird.

[Anonymous No.5918004]

>>5916703
Hoenn looks nice in 8-bit, where's the rest?

[Anonymous No.5918021]

>>5917737
Did you ignore the part about the original concept of the third Pokemon movie being about the origins of pokemon and what happened to regular animals? Obviously that all got chucked out for gen 3 and onward, but to deny the groundwork was ever there is pretty disingenuous.

[Anonymous No.5918042]

>>5916689
I played Gold back in 2002 But now I I have access to crystal, should i just play that instead of G/S?

[Anonymous No.5918043]

>>5916689
One thing I miss about the GBC games that isn't inherent to the hardware (Though it's helped by it) is how the series in Generation 2 felt like a weird Japanese thing. I mean, it's still quite obvious the games are made in Japan but Generation 2 and to a lesser extent 1 really felt like something made in Japan and localized, rather than made from the start with the awareness it would also arrive on western shores.

[Anonymous No.5918046]

>>5916771
Rip Columbia

[Anonymous No.5918060]

>>5916794
>>5917691
This is true for the anime only, because that's what Shudo imagined the pokemon lore to be. I seem to remember that pokémon being entities like ''angels'' that appeared lately on Earth was clearly stated in one of the Takeshi Shudo's novelization of the anime, but for sure that was NEVER explicitly said in the show, only implied if anything.
Tajiri had a different view on the lore, though. So the above idea was never canonic to the games, and even for the anime that lore was retconned long ago.
Animals, while appearing clearly in the anime due to what I've said, were sometimes referred in the games as well despite the fact they weren't supposed to if - as I said - the lore of RGB was never meant to be like the anime's one.
This leave room for debate
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Animals_in_the_Pok%C3%A9mon_world

[Anonymous No.5918121]

>>>/vp/

[Anonymous No.5918169]

>>5916721
Remember all the bullshit people used to make up about Gen I in particular? About how the S.S. Anne would actually return if left your game running for a year and you could find Mew under the truck? About how navigating pic related in a very specific manner would allow you to enter the cave, where you would find a pokeball containing Pikablu? About how naming your rival after a character on the TV show would allow you to catch Gen 2 pokemon in the Cerulean Cave?

[Anonymous No.5918195]

>>5918060
I’ve only seen Tajiri commented about animals, or anyone in the Pokemon series really, comment on it after it was decided to shift the direction

Though also worth noting is Tajiri has also said the manga better captures his vision for the series than the games

[Anonymous No.5918206]

>>5917727
>>5918004
The rest isn't made yet, that's from a ROMhack.

[Anonymous No.5918237]

>>5918121
>implying /vp/ talks about Pokemon and not just jacks off to the waifus

At least we're having a nice on topic discussion of a /vr/ game here. So what if there topic overlaps with another board? Not like every fighting game thread here is sent to /fgg/ on /vg/

[Anonymous No.5918250]

>>5918237
Then change that and make better discussion there. There are Pokemon and General boards for a fucking reason. And don't try and act like it isn't true that the only reason you want this thread is to feel like a big fish in a small pond (while fucking up this board) so you can hang out in your own little slow pokemon thread.

[Anonymous No.5918452]

>>5918169
real niggas stayed up all night on dial-up reading geocities and maxpages websites containing endless fake pokemon secrets
remember pokegods?

[Anonymous No.5918543]

Playing through crystal made me realise even the earlier games had huge flaws. We've never gotten a seriously great pokemon game (so far). Johto's progression felt rushed, it didn't take me significantly longer than other games to get 16 badges even though it should be double the content, and the levels of both wild pokemon and trainers are way below they should be. Add on top of that the lacking movesets for most monsters (it's common to have dual type pokemon that can't learn a single STAB move including via TMs or breeding), and gen 2 still feels underwhelming even though it was a leap forward in some aspects.

[Anonymous No.5918551]

>>5918169
>about how the SS Anne would return
Just deliberately black out after getting cut and the Anne will stay at port. It's possible to do this as many times as you want; the ship will only leave if you exit back onto the dock through the main door.

[Anonymous No.5918584]

Please stop all the soul in this thread is destroying me.
https://youtu.be/olXST6_f_o8

[Anonymous No.5918696]

>>5918584
Fuck you you fucking piece of shit you just fucking made me feel for the first time in years

You motherfucker goddamn why the fuck did you do this to me

You soul motherfucker

[Anonymous No.5919491]

>>5918584
I think I'm fading away. It's been fun anons

[Anonymous No.5919887]

Reminder that they still haven't made a better ghost pokémon since.

[Anonymous No.5919921]

>>5916803
Triple game speed was tits too.

[Anonymous No.5920023]

>>5919921
This, I loved Dodrio mode. The minigames were great too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1XdkHvdn24

[Anonymous No.5920082]

I love Gen 1 and 2

Back when they were trying to be competent rpgs with genuine dungeons, bosses and puzzles

[Anonymous No.5920452]

>>5918237
>implying /vp/ talks about Pokemon and not just jacks off to the waifus
of course, when you rather have good pokemans-threads on other boards.

[Anonymous No.5920458]

>>5920082
They actually did this right up to Gen V, shit didn't really hit the fan until Gen VI. It waxed and waned up to Gen V, but Gen V was great.

[Anonymous No.5920519]

>>5916794
>>5916838
>>5916861
>>5916876
>>5916901
Pokemon had existed for so long that you can find fossils of them

[Anonymous No.5920627]

>>5917981
This is pure genius

[Anonymous No.5920631]

>>5918043
The Japanese feel of videogames started fading during 6th generation and completely diedi with the 7th

[Anonymous No.5920667]

>>5916701
You don't mean that anon. There's at 5 pokemon from Gen 2 that are cool.

[Anonymous No.5920965]

>>5916689
Once lost a friend's Gold version for Gameboy and it still haunts me /vr/.

[Anonymous No.5921626]

>>5917981
Explain

[Anonymous No.5921632]

>>5918551
Or just trade a pokemon with Cut

[Anonymous No.5921640]

>>5916721
>slightly more mysterious/darker tone of Gen II
Honestly, I feel like Gen 2 polished up the visuals and presentation pretty close to what people would call "soulless". Gen 1's music sounded eerie and melancholic, while Gen 2 gave Gen 1 music a "wacky remix" that obliterates the original tone. To use a music analogy, GSC is the Black Album to RBY's And Justice For All.

[Anonymous No.5921698]

>>5920519
>Pokemon had existed for so long that you can find fossils of them
So did dinosaurs but it's not like we always knew about them.

[Anonymous No.5921953]

>>5916691

[Anonymous No.5922124]

>>5921640
Likewise I felt that gen 5 had a lot mysterious stuff too and people who love the feel of Gen II dont give it enough credit maybe due to nostalgia. There was the Abyssal Ruins, the ruins in the desert with a Native American spin and Sigilyph, the Egyptian ghost that carries the face, the ayylmao guys that live near there and then ruins with Volcanian, the dead king and queen ghost jellyfish, and the meteor impact site of Kyurem. I actually forgot how much great mysterious stuff were in the game until I wrote this.

I think I did like Gen II for that the best because I was a kid and the Unowns were the weirdest fucking shit ever. Plus the games kind of got a bit handholdy on gen5 and the map was pretty linear. It was probably the last good Pokemon for me. I can see how people would dismiss it for the weird mysterious lore and ruins by this point though. But I really enjoyed it.

[Anonymous No.5922528]

>>5916691
>>5921953
Is liking Ampharos a common thing/meme?

[Anonymous No.5922536]

>>5922528
Ampharos is a /vp/ meme. You say "Ampharos" and post that pic.

[Anonymous No.5922542]

>>5922536
Where'd it come from, though? What's the meta?

[Anonymous No.5922543]

>>5922542>>5922536>>5922528>>5921953
so gay

[Anonymous No.5922584]

>>5922528
>>5922536
I'm pretty sure he said that because Crystal doesn't have Mareep.

[Anonymous No.5922612]

>>5918551
oh shit
I feel retarded now.
Years of playing Pokemon and I never realized.

[Anonymous No.5922641]

>>5917993
He cant help that he was the only boy in a large family but also didnt utilize his father as a role model

[Anonymous No.5922708]

I still get this feeling of melancholy when I play through GSC again. But it still has that sense of adventure too. Felt even less hand-hold esque than RBY did.
It truly was an awesome game. Even if the level curve was total shit.
Speaking of shit, Yellow is the worst old game.

[Anonymous No.5922723]

>>5922708
yellow is decent by itself

[Anonymous No.5922727]

>>5922723
The surfing game is nice too.

[Anonymous No.5922892]

Crystal Clear killed regular gen 2 for me. Being able to go anywhere at any time + all the convenience changes(running shoes, etc) are crazy.

[Anonymous No.5923204]

>>5921626
The shrine is actually made out of assets used for building roofs and signposts. There are no unique sprites for the shrine.

[Anonymous No.5923238]

I like the new gens. Gen 5 is my favourite. I still miss the sense of wonder I had with the first two generations, though. Spending hours playing them with a friend and my brother, reading as much as I can about them (and rumours) online and in Nintendo Power.

Nostalgia is one hell of a drug

[Anonymous No.5923241]

>>5923204
Clever asset recycling.

[Anonymous No.5923242]

>>5923204
Wow, so it's nothing.

[Anonymous No.5923251]

>>5923242
It's smart optimizing like that which is why the game could fit so much content.

[Anonymous No.5923258]

>>5923251
Thought they were going with the "get Gamefreak is lazy lmao" deal. It is pretty smart though

[Anonymous No.5923279]

>>5917981
That's the kind of stuff you would need to do if you wanted to make the most out of a Gameboy cartridge, because they really didn't fit all that much.
Playing around with palettes and inverting colors can also be used sometimes for things like that.

[Anonymous No.5923304]

>>5922892
I wish I knew how to romhack because theres a few things about CC that I just hate and ruin the whole thing.

You should give Prism or Red++ a shot if you want more of a Gen 2-ish games.

[Anonymous No.5923438]

>>5923242
It's clever and neat. Don't be so cynical.

[Anonymous No.5923440]

>>5917560
Pokemon Prism isn't open world like Crystal Clear, but it's another Crystal hack that does an excellent job of capturing the feel of the first two generations. It's a bit rough around the edges since it was never *quite* finished (although the story can be played through to completion), but no other hack has done a better job of recapturing the feeling that I got back in the day when I got a new Pokemon game.

>>5917682
Gen 5 might've been the darkest at a glance, but I would argue that the first two generations still take the prize for being just that little bit grittier while still obviously being children's games. It's tough to explain, but the world presented in Gens 1 and 2 just feels more lived-in, and while they never went out of their way to be edgy, they also didn't shy away from some of the darker/seedier aspects of life.

You know, stuff like openly talking about death in the town with a graveyard, the way that poking around in the shady casino reveals criminal ties, or that the big villain plot is basically a Yakuza takeover of a major corporation. It's a bit closer to the idea of "the real world + magical creatures". Gen 5 is only really dark insofar as the villainous team bringing up the question of the ethics of Pokemon battles. The rest of the games' world is more or less in line with the way the Pokemon world has been portrayed since around Gen 3/4.

Not to say Gen 5 wasn't great, though, or at least BW2 were.

[Anonymous No.5923485]

>>5923440
Gen 5 also gave us the best pokéloli.

[Anonymous No.5923493]

>>5918195
The anime nowadays captures the current games better, which is only a sign of how things deteriorated
What's Tajiri even been doing since gen 3, did he just retire?

[Anonymous No.5923517]

>>5916689
Johto mom with literally no lewds.based

[Anonymous No.5923521]

>>5923517
guess I'm drawing tonight

[Anonymous No.5923542]

>>5922542
Ampharos is the poster child of a subset of Pokémon known as "shitmon". It has unimpressive stats, a lackluster move pool, and it just looks weird. I don't think a single NPC trainer in GSC even uses one, it only exists in the lighthouse, and the one there was sick. Because of its shitmon status, it's free of any of the weird autism attached to more powerful or popular Pokémon.

>>5920631
Ironically, Microsoft did more to embrace Japanese games than Sony did. The Xbox and to a lesser extent the 360,
had some weird, quirky games that weren't ashamed of admitting they were Japanese, while Sony decided to coddle western developers, ironic when you consider Sony has the monopoly on Jap games.

[Anonymous No.5923595]

>>5923493
Tajiri only intended for gens 1 and 2 to be made. Nintendo saw $ signs and wanted to keep the series going so they had Masuda take over.

[Anonymous No.5923601]

>>5923595
Sure, that much is clear, but what's Tajiri done since then is what I'm curious about. Masuda took over on Gen 4 IIRC, has Tajiri just been enjoying money and doing nothing and catching bugs, has he been writing books and we just don't know in the west, is there some big line of mobile games directed by him only known in Japan, what? It's odd to me that the creator of the biggest franchise in the world has been a cypher for 15 or so years

[Anonymous No.5923671]

>>5923601
When GameFreak isn't making Pokemon games, they're instead making random ass games for other companies like Tembo for Sega or Giga Wrecker for Rising Star Games. They're still working closely with Nintendo with other titles like HarmoKnight or Little Town Hero, the latter having its music composed by the sans undertale guy.

[Anonymous No.5923693]

>>5923671
I know that, but I'm asking if anyone knows about Satoshi Tajiri in particular
Like, we know what Ken Sugimori's been doing even as he got phased out of art direction in the games, from stuff for Sega to helping in the anime, but Tajiri doesn't seem to have any credits in anything beyond "executive producer" or "original creator of pokemon" since FRLG

[Anonymous No.5923781]

>>5917716
I always wanted Gen III to contineue the trend of having the previous region. Every new game came out and I thought, this is it! Game Freak will make the ultimate Pokemon game where you can travel anywhere you want! But they don't. One step forward, two steps back every single game. A lot of modern stuff can be described this way.

[Anonymous No.5923812]

>>5923781
I imagine a whole bunch of extra regions might have taken up too much space on a GBA cartridge. Mind also they need to spend time developing those regions.

It would be nice to see another two-region game though.

[Anonymous No.5924117]

>>5923440
>Gen 5 is only really dark insofar as the villainous team bringing up the question of the ethics of Pokemon battles.
Which ends up being a giant scam designed to trick Trainers out of their Pokemon through guilt-tripping, so it ultimately falls flat.

[Anonymous No.5924182]

>>5923542
I assumed Ampharos was fairly popular, but maybe not. Electric types have always been my favorite, so I used one as my main Pokemon for most of my first Gold playthrough. I played with a partially translated rom, so I first knew him as Denryu.

[Anonymous No.5924189]

>>5916964
based af

[Anonymous No.5924206]

>>5923542
Thanks bruh. I have no idea why, but he was my "favorite" as a kid, for gen II at least. I don't think I even had one.

>>5924182
My weirdo roommate in college also liked Ampharos

[Anonymous No.5924227]

>>5923781
>>5923812
Given how devoid of content Kanto ended up being in G/S/C, I would rather just have one region that they make big and good than two small regions with almost nothing in them.

[Anonymous No.5924240]

>>5922528
It seems to be the "new" Mudkips or Bidoof.

[Anonymous No.5924253]

>>5924227
Idk if people actually want two regions or if they just want 16 gyms again.
The battle facilities in the post game sort of fills that role, but they're stupid hard.

[Anonymous No.5924267]

>>5924227
Imagine being this much of a crybaby because your sequel didn't include the entire 1st game on it as an extra.

[Anonymous No.5924385]

>>5923485
He had a nice, insightful comment and then you go and tack that garbage onto the end

[Anonymous No.5924474]

>>5924182
I liked Ampharos, but I think it was mostly fueled by jealously since I had Crystal.

[Anonymous No.5924979]

>>5923542
>ampharos
>shitmon

Ampharos was OU in GSC and almost everyone uses it in-game because it's one of the best electric types in those gens. It learns powerful electric moves at low levels and has access to a ton of TMs and coverage moves.

It may not be good NOW because of power creep but in Gen 2 it was one of the best.

[Anonymous No.5925063]

>>5923693
He’s a rich lazy autist like Toriyama and probably is just enjoying his money

[Anonymous No.5925180]

>>5924385
>>>/facebook/
>>>/twitter/

[Anonymous No.5925276]

>>5924979
Ampharos was UU for most of its life, until they created a new tier, PU, and has been there since. Ampharos is a rather slow electric type, but in gen 2 speed meant little, contrast from gen 1 where speed also dictated crit ratios and later gens when tons of fast Pokémon were being made.

[Anonymous No.5925289]

>>5925276
Games past Gen 2 don't count

[Anonymous No.5925314]

>>5918206
what's it called? Image search gives nothing

[Anonymous No.5925448]

>>5925314
Ancient Ruby. There's an EXTREMELY bare demo of it (doesn't even have one Gym's worth of content) just to drum up mild interest for it, and plans are currently to get a three-Gym demo by the end of the year.
https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=417890
At the moment all Pokémon sprites are done, most trainer sprites are done and all music up to Mauville City has been made, so the primary work left before that demo is mapping, scripting, and porting Gen 3 features to Gen 2 (assuming that gets done; some might get left out due to difficulty). I'm not the guy making the hack though I have contributed some music to it.

[Anonymous No.5925464]

>>5918042
Crystal is better in every way except for certain good Pokémon like the Mareep line being exclusive to Gold and/or Silver.

[Anonymous No.5925468]

>>5922528
There's a guy posting Ampharos in really shitty /v/ threads (mainly wojak threads, though I'm repeating myself). He posts a single picture of Ampharos and it almost always derails the thread. I don't think that's the context of Ampharos here though, because Ampharos is just a qt.

[Anonymous No.5925473]

>>5921640
>Gen 2 gave Gen 1 music a "wacky remix"
I think the intent was that Kanto was new and mysterious in Gen 1, but you're revisiting it in Gen 2 so it's warmer and more comforting now.
Though I feel Gen 2 Johto music > Gen 1 Kanto music > Gen 2 Kanto music in overall quality.

[Anonymous No.5925779]

>>5924117
Honestly, I dunno if I'd go *that* far, if only because N and a lot of the grunts seem to have genuinely bought into it. The game still sort of goes into it, even if it's a pretty surface level discussion of the subject.

What confuses me way more about the game tackling that sort of subject matter is how unnecessary it was. Pokemon as a franchise had gone pretty far out of its way to sidestep the issue and make sure that the kids playing it didn't have to feel bad about making animals fight each other: None of the Pokemon actually die in battle, the lore specifies that Pokemon have an innate drive to fight and get stronger, a Pokemon doesn't obey its trainer if it doesn't want to, and you can instantly heal any of their injuries free of charge at any time. Even as a little babby, I sort of got that GameFreak deliberately crafted things to sweep that issue under the rug.

>>5924267
Kanto in GSC was basically just a glorified boss rush. I love Gen 2 as much as the next guy, but I'd rather have had a more fleshed out Johto. While it isn't as sparse as some people make it out to be, it's pretty obvious that it didn't get as much attention as it otherwise would have.

That said, it's sort of a moot point, because HGSS shows that it's not really an issue with modern technology. But I think I prefer FRLG's approach of just giving you some extra dungeons, high level trainers, and a sort of epilogue for the plot. A slightly more expansive take on the Sevii Islands + a Battle Frontier and Gym Leader/E4 rematches would be my ideal post-game.

[Anonymous No.5926035]

>>5925448
I love these kinds of demakes, I'll definitely keep an eye on it in the future

[Anonymous No.5926417]

>>5925448
Man, looking at this feels oddly right. I played gens 2 and 3 the most. This is like a visual representation of my nostalgia for pokemon.

[Anonymous No.5926496]

>>5925276
This pretty much. Gen 1 meta was dominated by speedy normal and psychics. Gen 2 meta was dominated by slow and bulky mons engaging in stalling wars. Speed meant nothing.

[Anonymous No.5926584]

>>5916772
>AGS001

[Anonymous No.5926587]

>>5917584
The OCs made me drop CC. That shit is stupid.

[Anonymous No.5926590]

>>5917562
> Imo the next best thing they could have done would have been to add in seasons changing, but I guess there were too many limitations. Gen II is definitely the most innovative of Pokémon games.
Zelda Oracle of Ages/Seasons was so much fun like that.

[Anonymous No.5926592]

>>5925448
Amazing sprite work

[Anonymous No.5926615]

>>5923693
He directed Detective Pikachu.

[Anonymous No.5926623]

>>5922528
>>5925468
In short, it's a forced meme used by ab asshurt furry.

[Anonymous No.5926624]

>>5926623
*an

[Anonymous No.5926629]

>>5917578
Earthquake

[Anonymous No.5926631]

>>5926584
You can actually play it in sunlight if you turn off the front light. Also GBC/GBA games weren’t color calibrated for backlit screens.

[Anonymous No.5926634]

>>5926623
Are you the guy who keeps making wojak threads on /v/? Because that's the only guy I can see getting mad at Ampharosposter.

[Anonymous No.5926635]

>>5926629
This, Nidoqueen is Poison/Ground. Earthquake is also one of the best moves in the game. It's a shame there weren't better Poison attacks though.

[Anonymous No.5926638]

>>5926631
>playing in the sunlight
GSC looks great even with the AGS101's saturation.

[Anonymous No.5926662]

>>5926638
TAIYOHHHH!!!

[Anonymous No.5926682]

>>5926634
The fact that you're even this versed in /v/ drama and are defending either side of their garbage proves that you need to fucking leave

[Anonymous No.5926691]

>>5918584
I want to go back to before I was sick and in physical pain every day

[Anonymous No.5926730]

>>5926691
Are you dying

[Anonymous No.5928634]

>>5925063
At least Toriyama makes some contributions, such as designing some exclusive characters for DBZ Xenoverse and Fighterz, and the roster of DQ11. Tajiri just vanished.

>>5925448
Looking at this reminds me of how I felt like Gen 3 was a subconscious retread of Gen 1. It's hard to describe just what I mean, but there are a lot of gen 1 "expies" in terms of trainers and pokemon, even the region is laid out in a similar way. Some say that Gen 3 was the "final true Pokemon game," probably because this was Sugimori's last role as lead artist.

[Anonymous No.5928663]

>>5928634
>Looking at this reminds me of how I felt like Gen 3 was a subconscious retread of Gen 1
Probably because since Ruby and Sapphire weren't able to trade with the previous games, they ended up making it a soft reboot of the whole series.

[Anonymous No.5928691]

>>5928634
>I felt like Gen 3 was a subconscious retread of Gen 1
I'm trying to understand what you mean, but I don't see it.

>even the region is laid out in a similar way
Especially this part.

[Anonymous No.5929481]

>>5926629
>>5926635
For the record I meant to type Poison STAB. I did teach it EQ, as it says in the picture.

[Anonymous No.5929486]

>>5923542
> I don't think a single NPC trainer in GSC even uses one
A female trainer on the route from Ecruteak to the MooMoo ranch uses a flaffy which later evolves into an Ampharos if you rematch her enough times. Also, Ampharos is among my most favorite mons.

[Anonymous No.5929498]

>>5923542
>>5929486
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Johto_Route_38#Generation_II_2
And my memory served me well, Route 38 Lass Dana, second and third rematches.

[Anonymous No.5929759]

>>5918021
>Source: Trust me

[Anonymous No.5929785]

>>5929481
Didn't look at the original picture. I assumed that's what you meant though, since you were talking about a poison move.

[Anonymous No.5929798]

>>5929759
Literally just google "pokemon movie t-rex." The information comes straight from the late Takeshi Shudo's blog that fans translated.

Here's an article with sources and links if you're too lazy to google: https://www.pokebeach.com/2016/01/original-script-for-3rd-pokemon-movie-involved-a-t-rex

>The Pokemon world is where real-world animals don’t exist (the few appearances of real world animals in earlier episodes, Shudo says, is due to the animation staff not paying enough attention) so he wanted to have the third movie tackle this question. What happened to all the real world animals? Why are there real trees and flowers but not real animals? What is the difference between plant Pokemon and regular plants?
>The idea was to have the third movie introduce a new type of creature – real world animals – into the world where only humans and Pokemon exist. This would have been done with the discovery of a Tyrannosaurus Rex fossil; not a fossilized Pokemon, mind you, but a real, actual dinosaur fossil.
>The discovery of a Tyrannosaurus Rex fossil was, as you would expect, big news in the Pokemon world. Real world animals used to exist in this world and records (including photographs) of them do exist but there isn’t anyone alive today who actually remembers ever seeing one. A Darwin-type theory of evolution doesn’t really exist, either, and professors who tried to tackle this problem usually tended to stop what they were working on to move to the countryside to try to figure this out. Orchid-Hakase is one such professor.
>Satoshi and his friends, as well as the Rocket trio, would have spent the movie trying to stop this dinosaur fossil’s rampage. The fossil’s rampage would have taken it through the Rocket-Dan’s secret base as well, causing the rest of the organization to get involved as well.

Obviously this ended up being scrapped, but it goes to show that people who worked on Pokemon did used to ask these kinds of questions, but don't any more.