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What do you think about Megaman 7?

>> No.5911615

I like all of it except for the final Wily fight.
Fuck that shit

>> No.5911623

Third best classic series game imo. 1 & 6 are the best, in that order. 1 is the best MM game among all the series, though

>> No.5911624

>>5911612
Easily in Top-5 of the classic Megaman games alongside 6, 5GB, Powered Up and 11.

>> No.5911630

>>5911623
Great taste!
Though I listed PSP remake instead, which simply got more content, original 1 isn't any less brilliant.

>> No.5911635

>>5911623
>>5911624
6 is great. The Rush power-ups added a cool dynamic

>> No.5911636

>>5911612
5 > 2 > 6 > 10 > 4 > 9 > 11 > 7 > 8 > 3

>> No.5911681

>>5911612
Better than any Mega Man since then, but disappointing compared to the NES games or X.

>> No.5911682

>>5911612
i want to like it so much but it always just feels off to me and im not sure why

>> No.5912276
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5912276

One of my favorite games in the series.

>> No.5912321

>>5911682
Cloud Man's stage is comfy as it gets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtqFs2c5OAQ

>> No.5912323

>>5911682
It feels slower and chunkier, especially with X having come out to demonstrate what Mega Man should be like in 16 bits.

>> No.5912325

>>5911612
It's pretty good. Better than anything from the X series, not as good as most of the classic series.

>> No.5912326

>>5911624
>>5911623
6 is the worst of the NES MM games, you homos

>> No.5912327

>>5912326
The best being?

>> No.5912329

>>5912327
2, 4 and 1 are all valid contenders

>> No.5912360

Loved it, mainly the music and aesthetic direction it took

>> No.5912409

I don't get mega man.

>> No.5912435

>>5911612
large sprites, shitty intro, least favorite from nes snes games

>> No.5912597

>>5911612
Classic Megaman games where all good except for 9, 10 and 11, i got bored by those games pretty quickly.

>> No.5912765

>>5911636
5 had cool levels but shit bosses, too easy.

>> No.5912772

>>5911612
Wasn't exactly fond of it.
Reusing 7 and 8's assets to make Rockman & Bass though, I fucking love that game is and one of my top Megaman games

>> No.5912796

>>5912326
That'd be 3 actually. Overrated shit that was. It was the only NES MM I didn't care for.

>> No.5912798

Controls are great, level design is clever with very nice secrets to discover, enemy design is standard Mega Man, and it has some of the best bosses in the main series.
Wily stage is great, and the Wily fight is hard but doable.

>> No.5913376
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5913376

Why did the boxart have Auto fighting if he doesn't do that?

>> No.5913409
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5913409

>>5913376
Because you weren't playing the japanese version.

>> No.5913446 [SPOILER] 
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>>5911612
a mess

has some good ideas, like the art style, but the bigger styles did not fit for the same crammed NES proportions for rooms, making platforming awkward, some ideas like getting items get crippled by needing to finding those special bolts so you can get access to more items.

And finally the untested unpolished Wily bosses who are a pain in the butt, and that shitty horrible Wily capsule, legit nobody tested that part, oh and the off-putting ending, made even worse in localization.

>> No.5913478

>>5913446
No Wily was tested, it was just deliberately bullshit.

>> No.5914185

>>5911682
It's the sprites. When you look at any of the NES games side by side with Megaman 7, both scaled to the same resolution, it's clear that Megaman's sprite takes up way more space in MM7. The game feels more clunky, because his jump height and walk speed aren't scaled up proportionally.....

>> No.5914910

All I want is a sprite hack to make Mega Man look less pissed off.

Someone's already redone the dialogue so that one thing is all I need.

>> No.5915312

>>5911612

The only megaman games worth playing are 2,3,X, and X2

>> No.5915326

>>5911612
Absolute shit. 7, 8 and Forte were a mistake.

>> No.5915327

Worst classic series game by far. Trainwreck.

>> No.5915509

I love it.

The low FOV gets in the way of a first playthrough, but once you get to know the game, it's excellent.

I love all the little secrets the game has, there are plenty. It's amazing all the small touches this game has when you consider it's supposed to have been made in a short time.

>> No.5915514
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5915514

>Roll and Auto can show up randomly instead of Dr. Light when you get a weapon
>they make jokes instead of giving useful info about the weapon

Did they decide to stick to "useful info" only for the western version, or was it just lazyness/low translation budget?

http://www.romhacking.net/?page=translations&action=images&id=1792&imageid=4

>> No.5915615

>>5911612
Best Mega man game imo and 2nd favorite next to Mega man 4 for me

>> No.5915636

>>5915514
In japan is based on those Manzai comedy skits.

>> No.5915638

>>5915312
7's better than X and X2, and 1 and 4 are better than 3

>> No.5915695
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5915695

I never thought the ever so slightly bigger Mega Man sprite made the game worse, or clunky, or anything like that.
Level design seems to go accordingly, I never found myself in a situation like "oh, the sprite is too big, I can't make this jump" or something like that.
In fact, the "sprite is too big" complaint is, to me, something recent, I don't remember it from years back. The usual complaint about VII was basically that it wasn't an X game. People got used to walljumping and sliding was just old news by then.
Of course, the real thinking man appreciates both, classic and X series.

>> No.5915724

>>5915695
>I never found myself in a situation like "oh, the sprite is too big, I can't make this jump" or something like that
same. i'd always heard people saying that it's bad because of the size of the sprite and assumed it was true. after playing it i saw that there's almost no truth to that. i'd rather the sprites were smaller, but mainly for aesthetic reasons; the mechanical improvement would only be slight

>> No.5915756

>>5915695
>>5915724
When people say "big sprite" what they really mean is the low FOV which is a consequence of that.

The low FOV is a problem in quite a few situations where you can't see traps of enemies ahead of you. In some cases some enemies can even shoot at you while you can barely see them on the screen.

It gets better when you know the game. When you know what to expect, it's not a problem at all.

>> No.5915774

>>5915756
I don't recall having that issue either, but I haven't played the game in a while.
Enemies attacking from outside your FOV isn't something inherent to sprite size. There's plenty of games that do it. You can still jump or slide to evade attacks coming at you.

>> No.5917059

>>5915756
Low FOV places constraint on the developers as well. Level design that's fine with higher FOV becomes unfair when you can't see as much of the level, ultimately restricting what the designers will do.

>> No.5917118

>>5915756
>The low FOV is a problem in quite a few situations where you can't see traps of enemies ahead of you.
name 5

>> No.5917417

>>5915695
>springman stage
fuck I forgot how comfy this game can be

>> No.5917429

>>5915756
>The low FOV is a problem
i can't think of any times that it was a problem for me

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>>5911612

Why only 4 stages twice instead of 8 stages at once like in all other games?
What was the point of this gay shit?

>> No.5918278

Why this ga(y)me is so clunky and slow? Megaman X is okay with fast and it's 2 years older

>> No.5918304

>>5918134
Just to piss you off

>> No.5918353

>>5918134
Probably because there are more interconnections between stages. For instance stuff to do in a certain order, using a weapon to affect the environmental in another stage, etc

MM8 has no excuse though.

If you want you can use a password that lets you start with all 8 stages but that means skipping both the intro stage and the museum stage

>> No.5918424

i like the bubbly cutesy music, perks me up sometimes.

>> No.5918523

>>5913376
megaman 8 foreshadow

>> No.5918530

>>5918134
Those 4 robots broke Wily out of prison, and while you were beating those, Wily reprogrammed the other 4 for evil

>> No.5918535

>>5918530
but it's still lame even with plot reasoning

>> No.5918763

>>5911612
It has the best track in all of Megaman.

https://youtu.be/GYqzaCkMFsA

>> No.5918793

>>5918763
https://youtu.be/1T1RZttyMwU
My personal favorite. Although the song is rocking and pumped, it gives me a bit of feels, I don't know why

>> No.5918906

I like Mega Man 7. I like all of the classic Mega Man games. I've spent the past couple years casually playing through the 5 on Game Boy, and this grants me some insight to some of the questions and observations I see in this thread.

>>5918134
>>5918353
Second poster is partially correct; the 4 stages twice is because of the interconnected nature described.

It was designed in such a way because MM7 brought on Minakuchi Engineering (uncredited) to help out. Their mark is all over some of the level+weapon design (compare to MM IV & V for GB especially) and their interactions and the 4 stages twice structure (something in all GB games for the series).

Additionally, you'll note the FOV people have been talking about looks suspiciously similar to a ratio you'd find on... Game Boy. I'm not going to defend it - that's Minakuchi Engineering chilling in their comfort zone because they only had 3 months to develop the game.

>> No.5918924

It’s my favorite classic Mega Man.

>> No.5918932

i prefer 6 and R&B, still 7 is my third favorite.

>> No.5920460
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5920460

who the fuck thought it's a good idea

>> No.5920462

>>5920460
But it is.

>> No.5920481

>>5920462
>Autistically screeches in your direction.

>> No.5921019

>>5920481
don't ree at me my man, mega man was always about figuring out bosses weaknesses.

>> No.5921035

>>5911615
Wild Coil, then immediately Thunder Bolt. It's actually really simple but still pretty fun. Probably the best fight in the classic series imo

>> No.5921318
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>>5915638
The SNES megamans are the only good megamans.

>> No.5921330

>>5911612
I think it is the linear successor to Megaman 6.

>> No.5922152
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5922152

Was he right all along ?

>> No.5922161

>>5911612

Not as good as Final Fantasy 7

>> No.5922172

>>5922152
No, he was Wiry. Right is the other guy.

>> No.5922187

There was something about Mega Man games that made bosses seem way cooler than other games. The doors, the hallway, the boss' personalities, getting their weapon. The feeling of getting to those doors for the first time compared to finding the boss' weakness and going back to kick their ass. This series is so special

>> No.5922296

>>5921318
the X series isn't close to as good as the NES series

>> No.5922308

>>5922296
First X game is the only good one

>> No.5922409

>>5911612
There's an unconscionable amount of lag between when I start holding the button and when the Mega Buster starts charging. You might as well get the turbo controller and get in the enemy's face.

>> No.5922426

>>5911612
>button mashing + platforming
No thanks, pick one or the other.

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>>5920460
This however, is an excellent idea

>> No.5922494
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5922494

>you can turn this stage into snow theme
>it will show the invisible platforms

>> No.5922501
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5922501

>you can even turn the clouds on the floating platforms into ice, breaking them, and revealing the platform

This game is full of cool little things

>> No.5922553
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5922553

Play 8bitted version instead

>> No.5922557

>>5922553
it's cool but it's inferior in many ways. All the cool little things of the original are just gone. Also the bigger FOV makes the game bland because enemies remain the same so it makes it easier; they shouldn't have been afraid to change enemy placement and number.

The only arguably better thing are the bossfights

>> No.5923376

>>5912409
Da Blue Bomber don't get you anon ..

>> No.5923417

>>5922494
>>5922501
>>5922491
>Legacy Collection STILL has not fixed the mixels

fuck my life.

>> No.5923421

>>5913446
imm gonna bust a nut

>> No.5923486

>>5912796

Being this wrong should be punishable by sterilization

>> No.5923507

>>5921318

There's only one SNES megaman though. Megaman X is a different series and character, faggot

>> No.5923681

>>5911612
I like it somewhat, it's definitely not my favorite in the series. 7's gameplay and controls always felt clunky and awkward, especially if you're marathoning the series and coming straight from the NES games.

>> No.5923683

>>5923507
Rockman and Forte you dumb dumb.

>> No.5923716

>>5923683
Mega Man and Bass was a GBA release and to my knowledge only exists on the SNES as a homebrew.

>> No.5923728

>>5911612
Fantastic game but the screen is too small for the sprite sizes.

>> No.5923735

>>5923716
It was out in Japan then ported to GBA.

>> No.5923736

>>5923735
based, thanks anon.

>> No.5924898
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5924898

>>5923417
legacy collection is missing the most content, even more than the PS2 collection.

>> No.5924931

>>5924898
even the SNES releases are missing content >>5915514

>> No.5924943

>>5924931
Yeah, I actually own the japanese SFC cart, it's the best.

>> No.5926424

>>5923716
You really should play the famicom Rockman and Forte.