/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.5907710]

Since the NES couldn't output RGB until years later when it was modded, was the original composite purple sky the developers true intention all along?

[Anonymous No.5907713]

>>5907710
Goddamnit man. What the fuck are you doing?

[Anonymous No.5907715]

>>5907710
Please stop.

[Anonymous No.5907717]

It's a purple sky because it took place near sunset. You can see the full day-night cycle on display here. Obviously this was intentional.

[Anonymous No.5907746]

This is a troll post obviously, but I know the correct answer:
"Unlike consoles like the SNES, which natively generate the image in pure RGB, the Famicom normally generates and outputs an encoded NTSC video signal, which must then be decoded by the TV's built-in NTSC decoder. This means the resulting color palette often varies depending on the display's decoder. This is why NES games appear to have different colors on different TV sets."

http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Famicom_Color_Palette

So depending on the model of TV, the colors may be different.

[Anonymous No.5907752]

>>5907710
i make the dookie in your mouth now. *drops shorts and empties anal cavity down your throat*

[Anonymous No.5907772]

>>5907710
Neither of those are purple

[Anonymous No.5907793]

>>5907772
*stabs you in the face*
Left is more purplish than right.

[Anonymous No.5907795]

>>5907710
Mario maker switch has the color sky says that true color.

[Anonymous No.5907803]

>>5907717
we've reached peak autism.

[Anonymous No.5907970]

>>5907793
In the most vaguest sense of purple... maybe? But I think it's far more likely that you're color blind.

[Anonymous No.5908054]

>>5907793
Still blue.

[Anonymous No.5908113]

>>5907710
>original composite
wew lad

[Anonymous No.5908564]

It's Yotsuba B.

[Anonymous No.5908856]

>>5907746
>This means the resulting color palette often varies depending on the display's decoder.
NEVER
THE
SAME
COLOR

[Anonymous No.5908880]

>>5908856
Retard.

[Anonymous No.5908882]

>>5908564
Based

[Anonymous No.5908962]

>>5907746
Sick of explaining this to retards like you in every thread. It doesn’t matter what your specific set displays the color as. You can change the sky to green if you want. It doesn’t change the fact that NTSC is a specific standard for color, and when set correctly, a set will display the sky as more purple than blue.

[Anonymous No.5909016]

>>5908962
This. If you display some SMPTE color bars and properly calibrate the color/brightness/etc, SMB is going to have a slight purplish hue

[Software and so on No.5909028]

"Purple" is a subjective color. Depending on the display, the smb sky color can wander fairly deep into the indigo range but it is never violet, not even on a "standard" ntsc display (which it was neither designed or played on)

[Anonymous No.5909381]

>>5907710
It's periwinkle.

[Anonymous No.5909384]

>>5909028
Can you read?
>>5908962

[Anonymous No.5909394]

>>5907710
Famicom was RF only until the Famicom AV(their revision like our toploader). The games were made for RF.

[Software and so on No.5909619]

>>5909384
Can you? "Purplish blue" is blue. You seem to be thinking of "bluish purple" not that either of those are actual colors. Furthermore, ntsc is a standard that literally was not followed since the 1950s and a standard that does not include the non-specific color "purple". If you consider indigo to be purple then you might have a justification for your opinion but most people consider it to be blue. If you show the color to a random assortment of people with no comparison, the majority of them will tell you it's blue - even in the technically official ntsc palette.

[Anonymous No.5909640]

>>5909619
I think you might literally be retarded.

[Anonymous No.5909718]

>>5909028
>"Purple" is a subjective color
>can be precisely described as a combination of two very narrow parts of the EM spectrum
Sounds like you might be retarded kiddo

[Anonymous No.5909739]

>>5908564
Anon...

[Anonymous No.5909742]

>>5909739
tomorrow master race

[Anonymous No.5909757]

>>5908962
>>5909016
>If you display some SMPTE color bars and properly calibrate the color/brightness/etc
No one did that then, (especially not 9 year-olds playing video games lmao) and only bearded autists who scream "RETARD" at people on 4chan do this now.
The NES color palette looked different depending on what TV you were using, and no matter how very big mad that makes your fat unwashed asses, it's still a fact.

[Anonymous No.5909761]

>>5909742
Don't want html on 4chin. It's just waterfox using the system theme.

[Anonymous No.5909816]

>>5909757
Doesn’t fucking matter and it doesn’t change the facts. Nice moving goalposts, but wrong is wrong. Whether you turn the color all the way off to black and white, or all the way up to over saturate them, it’s wrong.

[Anonymous No.5909940]

>>5909816
>The NES color palette looked different on the various TVs of the time
>Nuh uh, not if you used a calibration pattern to carefully adjust the saturation and tint in accordance with the Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers standards. As a literal child. When you were in 3rd grade.
Who the fuck is moving the goalposts here lmfao? You insufferable CRT fags are so full of yourselves.

[Anonymous No.5909953]

>>5909742
based and future yesterday pilled

[Anonymous No.5909969]

>>5907710
>be 1980s
>TVs got tint knobs and shit
>parents wouldn't buy Nintendo(tm) Super Eye Calibration Kit
>tfw i try to play vidya uncalibrated

[Anonymous No.5909970]

>>5909940
>>5908962 I that a correctly calibrated set will be more purple than blue. Here >>5909028 you claim it’s “subjective” depending on the display, and here >>5909619 you claim NTSC hasn’t been followed since the 50s (????) (literally every CRT followed NTSC specifications, how else would they transmit signals accurately if they didn’t follow its guidelines???) And finally, here, >>5909757 once you’ve realized that nothing you’ve said made any sense, and that your argument is lost, you then misdirect your claims and hope it would go unnoticed, to stating that “no one did that”, as if that negates the fact that it’s nonetheless true. Consider this the final response to you. You are a retard as well as a faggot and you have been owned.

[Anonymous No.5909976]

>>5909940
He’s kinda right tho’. Do you know what this picture is for? Most people used something like this back in the day. It wasn’t rocket science.

[Anonymous No.5910025]

>>5909976
>>5909970
The NES color palette looked different depending on what TV set you were using.

The semantics and goalpost moving and "Why, of course children used test patterns to calibrate their TVs" mental gymnastics is hilarious.
>Consider this the final response to you
make sure to tip your fedora on the way out lmao

[Anonymous No.5910028]

>>5907710
IM GONNA TAKE A GIANT SHIT UP YOUR ASS

[Anonymous No.5910063]

>>5909970
>I have won this Internet argument! Consider yourself owned and good day to you sir!
I can smell the R*ddit from here

[Anonymous No.5910087]

>>5908962
>>5909016
That's not accurate.
You can calibrate two televisions to display a SMPTE pattern as correctly as possible, then throw on SMB1 and they will have different shades of sky. This is why NTSC has the reputation of "Never The Same Color". It's maddening to work with. You can calibrate the primary colors to look right, but shades between them will vary from set to set.

[Anonymous No.5910116]

From a purely coding standpoint did they pick a value that's read as "blue" on the code end?

[Anonymous No.5910118]

>>5910087
You don’t know what you’re talking about.

[Anonymous No.5910121]

>>5910116
No.

[Anonymous No.5910129]

>>5908054
/thread

[Anonymous No.5910136]

>>5907970
You're not wrong, but not for the reason you think.
He's likely a red-green color deficient male individual. That means he sees about 1000 times the hues of blue and yellow, and the inverse for red and green.
About 1 in 20 males have this mutation, because having one in your hunting group meant you spotted more shit to kill, cook, and eat.

[Anonymous No.5910139]

>>5909739
Based and tomorrowpilled.

[Anonymous No.5910186]

>>5909757
by that logic I can say any game assets can be any hue or shade I want because it's always possible to fuck with the brightness, chroma, and phase to get all sorts of weird shit.
If your TV showed a light blue sky, it was miscalibrated, simple as.

[Software and so on No.5910206]

>>5909970
Jesus fucking Christ, this post. You are literally a 21st century digital boy incapable of our just unwilling to grasp that not so very long ago technology was analog. In the 50s, television manufacturers noticed that brighter sets sold better and so they started making them that way which led to deviations in color from the standard. Something as simple as different sized tubes can cause the human eye to perceive color differently.

But here's the real kicker. I guarantee you that many CRTs got their color knob ADJUSTED because they knew damn well that the sky isn't meant to be purple. That's some basic bitch shit.

[Anonymous No.5910253]

>>5910118
No you.

Try the test I just described and see the results for yourself.

[Anonymous No.5910305]

>>5910206
>i fucked with the TV settings to make one color in one game stop triggering my austim and my dad didn't beat the shit out of me
No wonder you turned out to be such a cancerous loser

[Anonymous No.5910330]

>>5909757
It's not about what people did or did not do. It's not about what kids saw. Neither of those things answer the question of what color the sky is supposed to be.

It also doesn't matter how any particular television processed the NES video signal. That would only be in consideration if you were trying to recreate how you or someone else played the game in the past.

The only thing that actually matters to this particular discussion is the developer's intentions. Whether or not many people actually got to see it as intended is irrelevant here. Previous threads here had statements by Miyamoto and some photos of design documents. And that's just about all we have to go on.