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TRANSLATIONS THREAD Anonymous Sun Sep 22 10:57:16 2019 No.5899375 [Reply] [Original]

One of the guys from 46okumen group is working on translating Tokyo Twilight Busters, Blade of Darkness and Last Armageddon: https://twitter.com/hallwaytaupe

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 22 10:57:46 2019 No.5899376 File: 31 KB, 640x400, 1544566839041.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 22 13:21:48 2019 No.5899656 >>5899375 k

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 22 14:31:35 2019 No.5899796 More made up garbage?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 22 14:48:00 2019 No.5899842 Based retro translators, can't wait to play Tokyo Twilight Buster!

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 22 14:49:20 2019 No.5899851 >>5899842 Why wait when you can make up your own translation right now?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 22 14:51:56 2019 No.5899863 >>5899851 We're getting more great translations, and there's nothing you can do, silly schizo weeb.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 22 15:16:53 2019 No.5899932 >>5899375 If that screenshot in the OP is representative of what the end product will have, I'm not holding my breath. It's not wrong per se but the tone is way off. (I say this as someone who has gone through the opening of that game several times.)

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 22 15:17:58 2019 No.5899934 >>5899796 This thread isn't about you I'm afraid

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 22 15:20:48 2019 No.5899936 >>5899934 All PC98 translation examined so far have turned out to be rewritten machine translations. Why should this one be different?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 22 15:24:28 2019 No.5899941 >>5899936 I'm pretty sure Tuned Heart wasn't. It had errors, sure, but it was not machine translated. The discussion in the last thread cut off though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 22 15:29:47 2019 No.5899954 >>5899941 Errors that are easily explained with machine translation and complete lack of Japanese knowledge. Pretty much every current translator uses MTL, the main difference is whether you understand when and where it gets things wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 22 15:33:21 2019 No.5899967 >>5899954 It had way too much right to be dismissed as machine translation. But it seems your mind is made up already.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 22 15:35:23 2019 No.5899971 >>5899967 Machine translation does get things right occasionally. Which line is improperly translated by Google but correct in the translation?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 22 15:35:44 2019 No.5899973 >>5899967 Don't bother with this retard, he pops up in every translation thread and shits MACHINE TRANSLATION in every post. I think he's just upset games are translated.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 22 16:48:53 2019 No.5900134 >>5899973 so was that true or not with the other PC98 dude? the one with a patreon? 46 Okumen is legit though, they did EVO and Metal Jacket

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 22 16:53:33 2019 No.5900149 >>5900134 I honestly have zero idea. As far as I can tell, Retronomicon's translations made sense story-wise, it's all that matters to me. But maybe he changed the tone of some lines or something for the better, like WD.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 22 17:14:37 2019 No.5900201 >>5899936 It isn't any more made up than what some professional companies translate but I don't see them getting HUURR MUCHINE TRANSLATUTION.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 22 17:23:19 2019 No.5900217 >>5899375 >is working Gideon Zhi also "worked on" a few very anticipated translation and we all know how that ended.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 22 18:01:46 2019 No.5900291 >>5900217 Let's not speak about this crybaby cuck. >>5900201 It's a meme, some people are actually bothered that games get translated.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 22 18:05:38 2019 No.5900301 File: 48 KB, 640x399, 1559553961982.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5900217 I don't know this lore, mind giving a quick rundown?

Anonymous Sun Sep 22 21:31:52 2019 No.5900781

>>5900291
There are so many people on this site in general that get extremely butthurt when anything they like gets translated because they're gatekeeping faggots. They don't want to feel like they wasted hundreds of hours of their lives learning a language just to consume obscure games/manga/light novels earlier than most people.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 22 22:36:16 2019 No.5900895 >>5899375 Which of the 3 games is this screen from?

Anonymous Sun Sep 22 22:38:32 2019 No.5900905

>>5900781
>They don't want to feel like they wasted hundreds of hours of their lives learning a language just to consume obscure games/manga/light novels earlier than most people.

that would be pretty retarded of them considering that learning jap is worth it for the porn alone

Anonymous Sun Sep 22 22:39:32 2019 No.5900909

>>5900201
Nah, you wind up getting overtly literal translations with the machine translation, whereas real companies have (sometimes) people that can actually understand Japanese, at least conversationally; translate it correctly with our equivalent of the nuances

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 23 01:10:13 2019 No.5901116 >>5900201 What professional companies translate PC98 games?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 23 01:23:08 2019 No.5901127 >>5900134 >46 Okumen is legit though, they did EVO and Metal Jacket That doesn't prove anything. Nebulous did a lot of games and turned out to be the same bullshit as Retronomonicon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 23 02:11:21 2019 No.5901185 >>5901116 Megatech did. Knights of Xentar. Cobra Mission. And a few others.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 23 02:54:47 2019 No.5901227 >>5901185 Their translations have some questionable editing and they made dubious gameplay changes but they didn't use machine translations back in the 90s.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 23 04:42:13 2019 No.5901364 >last armageddon yes please

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 23 04:50:05 2019 No.5901375 >>5900895 How lazy can one person be

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 23 08:29:47 2019 No.5901609 >>5900905 Then you realize how stupid live action Jap porn dialog is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 23 09:11:49 2019 No.5901664 >>5901127 proof? >>5901227 megatech did make shit up like the females berating the MC for being stinky, having a tiny dick and being impotent when none of those were present in the original >>5901609 no thanks, I'm happy with dumb 2D dialog

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 23 09:17:51 2019 No.5901671 >>5901664 Yeah, can't say I'm fond of Knights of Xentar either. The translator just decided to inject a huge amount of lowbrow humour in the script. Well, that's very much on par for American porn...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 23 11:56:20 2019 No.5901952 File: 27 KB, 480x360, racing-lagoon-03.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] When are we getting a Racing Lagoon translation?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 23 11:58:21 2019 No.5901956 >>5900301 Just check his Twitter feed then look at his list of stalled projects, you'll understand his "work ethic" real quick.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 23 12:09:21 2019 No.5901979 >>5901956 Thanks. I expected something spicier

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 23 12:24:54 2019 No.5902012 >>5901979 AFAICT the 46okumen guy this thread is about is only working on the technical side, and he has three different translators he's enlisted, one for each project. So any and all progress depends on the translators.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 23 12:25:56 2019 No.5902014 >>5902012 Or rather, sort of enlisted. The tweets don't sound too reassuring.

Anonymous Mon Sep 23 12:31:45 2019 No.5902020
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>>5902012
What I mean is, that's just standard fare. Not only is it completely expected for these projects to drag on for years, most of these dinguses are just working on them on their spare time and they have actual day jobs. They're done when they're done, I have zero expectations of these things actually coming out, they don't owe me anything, I can only be thankful if someone decides to shit out a release on my plate. Except if it's like a patreon thing or something, then there is reason for his patrons to get upset if the guy is not deliveran.

Anonymous Mon Sep 23 12:39:15 2019 No.5902029

The 46okumen guy is legit, he did EVO and Rusty and other games.
He has work ethic.
In fact, his groups produced machine translation patches before of his projects, but only to convince new translators they can do the technical insertion, and refused to publish those versions before all text is redone.

The machine translation guy is the patreon faggot, "owning the weebs" and hiding behind "it's just a liberal translation that's why it's so shit" and in the end go "so what? sue me loser" The translations are unhelpful and buggy.

Someone here on /vr/ is real, real salty that machine translation releases are hated and stanned for them quite a bit, then is trying to smear all legitimate translation groups ("see? machine translation too! they are all the same! patreon faggot isn't so bad! I just want games!")

Tokyo Twilight Busters in English in good hands rather than the patreon hack (confirmed to lurk here) is to be celebrated.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 23 12:52:06 2019 No.5902052 >>5902029 For the reasons I stated in >>5899932 , I worry that it may not be in good hands. It's too valuable a game to be left to an incapable translator.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 23 13:01:50 2019 No.5902070 The guy is doing possessioner too.https://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=27891.0

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 23 13:58:58 2019 No.5902162 >>5902052 I guess >>5899973 is right >muh nihonese game can't be translated

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 23 14:36:20 2019 No.5902213 >>5901671 >>5901664 Have you actually played DK3? Because I have.

Anonymous Mon Sep 23 15:07:59 2019 No.5902303

>>5902213
No, not played, but I watched a playthrough of it for the PC Engine. Since it was PCE, it was stripped of adult content and all the lampshading the game did about that was hilarious. And the sound acting too.

Long, long ago I played Xentar but it didn't hit for me and the impression that I was left with was "the game that spoofs fairy tales".
I didn't get very far, obviously.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 23 15:17:22 2019 No.5902318 >>5902162 Of course it can be translated. Just be a good translator. If you aren't one yet, I hope you're honing your skills by doing a B-grade game instead. Tokyo Twilight Busters is challenging. All visual novels are.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 24 13:20:03 2019 No.5904427 >>5900895 Tokyo Twilight Busters

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