/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.589812]

okay guys, ITT we're going to discuss underrated ps1 games

the battle system is interesting in this game but i like it, i really like some of the cutscenes that even kick the shit out of most ps2 grafix... the soundtrack to this game i actually like better than ffvii but that's my opinion... all in all i think this game deserves more credit than it's gotten[\spoiler]

>also dem waifus

[Anonymous No.589827]

>>589812

That game isn't really underrated.

If anything, it's a bit overrated.

[Anonymous No.589834]

>>589827
do explain

[Anonymous No.589838]

>>589834
everyone and their uncle praises the game

[Anonymous No.589851]

>>589838
usually that means the game was good

[Anonymous No.589853]

>>589838

that's because it's good

[Anonymous No.589858]

>>589851

It is good, but it's not underrated.

[Anonymous No.589862]

>>589851
doesn't make it underrated

[Anonymous No.589871]

Please do not misuse the spoiler function

[Anonymous No.589884]

LoD is honestly a terrible game and I will never understand how it got such a large fan following.

[Anonymous No.589891]

I never beat LoD and I feel bad about it. I love the fuck out of it, but I could never beat the Grand Jewel.

Anyone got any tips for it? I might go back and try to beat it.

[Anonymous No.589905]

>>589884
who was in your party anon?
>>589891
then go to /v/ and complain about it

[Anonymous No.589924]

>>589884

'hey an RPG that isn't final fantasy for once!'

The game rolled around at the right time for it, really.

[Anonymous No.589937]

>>589924
what about star ocean an dragon quest?

[Anonymous No.589938]

>>589905
It's been a long time since I last played it, but I'm sure Rose and Kongol were in my party. Can't remember who I had as my 4th. I think it was haschel.

I knew you weren't supposed to use your Dragoon because of the Block Staff, but it kept whooping my ass with that one light spell it had.

[Anonymous No.589950]

>>589938

LoD only had three person parties.

[Anonymous No.589962]

>>589950
That goes to show how long it's been since I've played it.

It was just Kongol and Rose then.

[Anonymous No.589973]

>>589938
kongol would've been awesome
>if he didn't suck so bad

i've found dedicating dart to white maging is helpful... but meru and haschel would've been better... much faster team

kongol slows your whole party down

[Anonymous No.589985]

>>589973
I just figured he had the most health and did really good damage at the time.

I really had Dart and Kongol as my main damage team and used Rose as a back up, since she did decent damage herself.

[Anonymous No.590007]

>>589985
you still should have someone white mage

>miranda just sucks ass

>i would coincidentally suck her ass as well

[Anonymous No.590024]

>>590007
Yea, I aways figured Miranda fucking sucked, but it's not really possible to have a dedicated white mage against the Grand Jewel since magic is only accessible in Dragoon form and the Grand Jewel stops the Dragoon form after the first turn.

[Anonymous No.590030]

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation/the-legend-of-dragoon
>74/100

it's an average JRPG. Interestingly, its userscore is very high. I attribute this to zero hype - only someone who didn't have exposure to the genre would enjoy it.

everyone in this thread who likes this game is just under the effect of nostalgia. Search your heart. You know it to be true.

[Anonymous No.590042]

>>590024
>overpowered healing items
that's what i meant by white mage

[Anonymous No.590058]

>>590030
i bought the game for 6 dollars on psn and i'm still blown away

[Anonymous No.590052]

>>590042
Oh, well that's what I meant by having Rose as back up. Having her focus on healing and support items, while attacking when she's got a free turn to.

[Anonymous No.590061]

>>590030
Hey, dickweed, nobody cares what you believe is the cause for the love. If you don't like it, leave the thread.

[Anonymous No.590125]

>>590061
well said anon

[Anonymous No.590187]

>>589973
>Kongol too slow

Why didn't you give him the Bandit Boots? Or is it the Bandit Ring? Something like that. There's an item you can get towards the end of the game, Bandit Somethingorother, that males in your party can wear to dramatically increase their speed. It's the male equivalent to the Dancer's Boots.

My party was usually Dart, Kongol, and Meru. Give Meru the Dancer's Boots and she will get 2.5 or 3 turns for every 1 most other characters get, it's silly.

[Anonymous No.590209]

>>589834
The battle system is fun and everything, but the plot lacks so much.

Anyway contributing to the topic, Team Buddies. So much goddamn fun and no one ever talks about it.

[Anonymous No.590224]

>>589812
I do love the game, but goddamn, the voics acting sometimes....

[Anonymous No.590228]

>>589812
I do love the game, but goddamn, the voice acting sometimes....

[Anonymous No.590235]

>>589812
>Underrated
>Had a Greatest Hits release

[Anonymous No.590250]

>>590228
>Voice acting

There were like 5 or 6 voiced cutscenes and that's it.

[Anonymous No.590280]

>>590250
Yes, and the voice acting got pretty bad in them. Namely Rose... Sounded like she had never spoken english a day in her life before in some parts.

[Anonymous No.590420]

>>590030
>Metacritic
Even though I agree that the game is just alright.

[Anonymous No.590440]

>>590420
>I don't know what an aggregator is

have fun with that anon

[Anonymous No.590456]

>>590440
The problem is it is getting the aggregate score from many, many terrible review sites.

[Anonymous No.590459]

>>590440
>An aggregator of reviews is somehow relevant when the reviews themselves aren't

[Anonymous No.590486]

>>590456
As opposed to good review sites? Admit it, you'd just cherry-pick whichever site that best supported your view of the game.

>>590459
>the reviews themselves are available through the site, and you can see who gave what when, and for what reason, as far as "professional" reviewers are concerned. Unfortunately, the user reviews don't contain many critical thinkers, so have fun taking those chuckledicks at face value.

[Anonymous No.590504]

>>590486
>Chuckledicks
>Not Chucklefucks

Come on man, Chuckledicks doesn't even sound right.

[Anonymous No.590710]

>>589891
Don't turn Dragoon.

Use all your Bombs/Throwables

Be at a decent level (don't run from every fight in the game, you pussy.)

It's strong against Dragoon attacks, Dragoon magic and Magic attacks. Hit it hard, hit it often. Keep everyone healed etc. Shouldn't be too hard.

[Anonymous No.591048]

>>590042
Oh wow. I was not aware this was an option.

[Tarzandan No.591060]

>>589891
Albert using Twister Glaive + highest damaging addition + Power up + Speed up = dead Grand Jewel

>>590007
>>590024
>Shana/Miranda sucks
>Has the second highest base speed, highest base magic attack and defense therefore can do the most damage in the game and take the least amount of magic damage from NA version of LoD which has overpowered magic damage.

Pick one.

[Anonymous No.591101]

>>589812
This game is shit. Its always been shit.

http://web.archive.org/web/20041212062022/http://www.workingdesigns.com/rpg_critic/PlayStation/legend_of_dragoon.htm

[Anonymous No.591136]

It's pretty good. I don't understand why anyone would dislike it. In terms of story it's the same goofy japanese fantasy as all jrpgs at the time, the graphics and music are just about on par with FF and the combat system is way more engaging than anything square came up with before Vagrant Story.

[Anonymous No.591171]

Wait, LoD is a good game but it's shit next to Parasite Eve, and if LoD is obscure or whatever, PE is forgotten for sure.

[Anonymous No.591179]

>>591171
But parasite eve had horrible combat and half empty, boring areas to explore. First disk was stingy with the story too. There's not much to it other than the atmosphere. It's probably one of the worst square games on the psx.

[Anonymous No.591182]

>>591179

Don't you talk shit about my waifu like that

[Anonymous No.591196]

>>589884
I think it has to do with it being the only JRPG outside FF games most people played

Fuck I have a copy that has been sitting on my PC for 5 years now, I like the game

But fuck its awful, I'd rather replay thousand arms. The dragoon system was kind of cool and the plot was decent but jesus that combat


Although its been years, I should replay it so I can call it awful as an informed adult

[Anonymous No.591197]

>>591179
First disc was stingy with story? What in the fuck are you talking about?

First half you are set up as cop, you are as a viewer told that your muggafin genes set up the meetings and conflict, you have special powers, someone else has special powers, you have to deal with continuing a job despite that, as well as helping your partner as he is repeatedly found helpless where you can otherwise go fine. This reverses the roles since he is put outfront as the protector while you likely were a competent but less rough around the edges officer.

This only goes up to the 3rd area: The police office event.

These are some of the weakest shots at the game I've ever seen, and I've been discussing its merits and drawbacks since release.

[Anonymous No.591204]

>>591179
>PE combat horrible
Nostalgia is making you think LoD is better? Get bent dude, PE combat has yet to be properly approximated and was fucking intense when the other things out had your heroes and enemies in a nice clean line waiting turns.

>half empty areas
This was true of LoD too, but at least the "empty" areas of PE had loot and random encounters. LoD was just this mostly linear setup with very little of interest outside of the direct story.

[Anonymous No.591221]

>>591197
>>591204
Let's face it, compared to other square games, or even jrpgs in general at the time, the story was extremely slow. And there wasn't really any justification for it to be like that since the combat was so simple and repetitive. I mean, at least LoD threw in that one dungeon where you can sneak around enemies and that boss that forces you to complete your combos every time so you don't get counter-attacked.

[Anonymous No.591238]

>>591221
Stop comparing shit to LoD, in this thread alone it's been posted something that outright shows it for what it is. A clone of FF7/8 smashed together with a shitty combat GIMMICk not even a change, but a gimmick.

[Anonymous No.591241]

>>591221
I don't even know why you created this thread if to bash every suggestion brought up. GB2/v/ because this isn't the attitude we want here buddy. Discussion, friends, and info. Not negativity and respect my nostalgia or get fucked.

[Anonymous No.591260]

>>591238
It's a gimmick that has a decent ammount of variety and makes the combat infnitely more engaging than traditional turn based combat. I don't see how this is a negative. And yeah it's a clone of FF in a way, but FF isn't really known for it's originality and the psx games were fairly similar to each other.
>>591241
I'm not sure if this is a troll, but /v/s problem aren't negative opinions, it's the fact that they don't talk about games.

[Anonymous No.591263]

>>591238
Woah, he isn't even the one who started with the LoD/PE comparisons.

[Anonymous No.591276]

monkeeeeeeeeeey

[Anonymous No.591721]

>>589834
Well for one every person on the planet says it is underrated just like Earthbound. Not only that Legend of Dragoon did not do much. The game was pretty bland aside from the combat system which even then was a little above average.

[Anonymous No.591730]

>>591179
I am gonna ruff you up boy.

[Anonymous No.591762]

>>589812
Letend of the Dragoon is probably THE worst first-party Sony game ever, period. And it's one of the worst talked-about PSOne JRPGs.

Even when people are saying "remember LotD? now that was a shitty game", they're OVERrating it by remembering it at all.

[Tarzandan No.593018]

>>589884
>>590030
>>591101
>>591221
>>591762
Looks like someone has their ass handed to them in a bowl and spoon fed by Doel/Lenus/Grand Jewel