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*IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING EVERYONE BELIEVE CRTS LOOKED LIKE SHIT*

>> No.5895220

>>5895207
I exclusively play with those because that's how everyone played. If I wanted everything to look "good" I'll just play in an emulator. In fact I had played my genesis with the coaxial not even plugged in but dangling behind the TV for weeks and I'll do it again.

>> No.5895223

nah, composite on a crt still looks so much better than RGB upscaled to a flat screen

>> No.5895231

>>5895207
> I HAVE NO IDEA HOW CONSOLES OR COMPUTERS WORK SO I'LL JUST BLAME A STANDARD INSTEAD!
good fucking grief, no wonder nobody bothers to visit this board much any more when this level of intellectual retardation is here.

>> No.5895250

>>5895231
Your "standard" gives an objectively worse picture quality than what CRT TVs are actually capable of displaying

>> No.5895263

>>5895207
composite doesn't even look that bad on a regular CRT most of the time. It just really looks like ass on a digital display where it's blown up and stretched, not to mention the input lag and mishandling of 240p as 480i with tons of artifacts.

Obviously s-video/component/RGB are better, but still.

>> No.5895275

Pan and scan video transfers of things shot on film are way more responsible for that

>> No.5895276
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>>5895275
>tfw watching standard def content with hardcoded letterboxing so when it's on a widescreen display you get both vertical and horizontal blackbars

fuck every cunt who programmed a movie or video game to do this

>> No.5895286
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5895286

>tfw you had a early s-video TV in 1991 yet didn't even understand what it was and only got a s-video cable in 2008 to plug your older consoles on your ancient shitty capture card (pictured)

>> No.5895289

>>5895276
It's less annoying with a tv with good blacks, but all of those old tricks really are terrible. The only mild saving grace is that stereo sound was almost universal by the time home video was available.

>> No.5895295
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5895295

>>5895276
>watching an old show on tv on a CRT
>channel hardcodes black bars on the sides for wide screens
>CRT adds black bars to the top and bottom too

>> No.5895297

>>5895223
This.
Actually, if OP would have been alive back in the day, he'd know composite was a huge upgrade from RF, which is what actually looked bad due to ghosting and other artifacts. Composite looked consistent, no weird shadowing or ghosting.
Also nobody believes CRTs looked like shit, there's a reason why people who are into retro video games want one.
The main complaints about CRTs is "muh space" and "muh too expensive" for a few hundreds, if that (but they don't hesitate to pay thousands for some 4K TV)

>> No.5895305

>>5895297
Europe had RGB, while americucks had to deal with composhite.

>> No.5895309

>>5895297
Even the main reason RF looked bad was how much interference was around comparatively. Between the change from analog to digital broadcast, major changes in how much shielding goes into modern wiring, and how many electronics just don't produce as much these days, you can get a pretty good picture if you're not in a city or near a train station or something.

>> No.5895316

>>5895250
Remember when video games were for playing?

>> No.5895334

>>5895305
we had s-video and component as well. The only console where it's a massive issue is Genesis where the only thing better than its awful composite is RGB.

>> No.5895351

>>5895305
yeah but you guys had 50hz.
Forget about the west anyway, what did Japan use?

>> No.5895352
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5895352

>>5895207
Unimaginable luxury, as a kid I played spectrum / SMS / MD through RF (on a small cheap TV that I don't think even had inputs for anything else) and so did everyone else I knew. Having a "high quality" picture back then meant you'd managed to get it to be in colour and not ghosting or shimmering too badly.

>> No.5895562

>>5895295
A CRT by itself can't add black bars top/bottom, that's your source device.

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5895602

I was lucky.
A local Hollywood Video had an anime section and put the Project A-Ko series in there.
It's full of great late-80s fanservice.

>> No.5895620

>>5895250
>Your "standard" gives an objectively worse picture quality than what CRT TVs are actually capable of displaying
And?

>> No.5895626

>>5895207
CRTs are not coming back. I have a FV300 CRT and used a PS3 on it. My HX850 LCD is superior in almost every way. PQ for sure.

>> No.5895645

>>5895316
>you shouln't care about the VIDEO part of VIDEO GAMES

>>5895351
everything we had, except that instead of scart they have a different pinout called pin21

>>5895620
he means that you like to put vaseline on your eyes

>>5895334
But how many of them accepted it? There's more consoles with scart options than either s-video or component.

>>5895263
being stretched and blown up wouldn't matter if composite wasn't so blurry on non-CRT tvs

>>5895220
It's not like you have to do a lot to get a clearer signal

>>5895231
How is he wrong?

>> No.5895653

>>5895207
It's weird, I didn't actually end up using composite much as a kid. I basically went straight from RF to S-Video, then later component.

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5895663

was composite better than the RF switch?

>> No.5895672
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>>5895207
This is RF i think it looks good

>> No.5895675

>>5895672
>earthbound
show off

>> No.5895687

>>5895663
Obviously, yeah.

>> No.5895697

RF Switch < Composite < S-Video < Component < HDMI

RGB is a meme that need not apply

>> No.5895702

>>5895675
Its a 5$ bootleg

>> No.5895703

>>5895672
looks like shit

>> No.5895705

>>5895697
HDMI output for SD signal?

>> No.5895745

>>5895645
>But how many of them accepted it? There's more consoles with scart options than either s-video or component.
only problem console is genesis in that regard. At least of consoles that matter. Everything else could do s-video or component. Or lacked those but also lacked RGB as well, like NES.

>> No.5895760

>>5895697
component is/same as rgb

>> No.5895764

>>5895705
Most consoles have boards available that digitize the signal and usually upscale to 720 or 1080. Dreamcast and N64 seem to be the most popular.

>> No.5895798

>>5895764
>upscaling SD
Uh, no, I don't think that counts.
HDMI should be separated into a different tier. It's not good for SD signal. Just as SD output isn't good for HD signal.

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>> No.5896085

>>5895207
The thing responsible for making "everyone" believe CRTs looked like shit is the zoomer

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>>5895220
>and I'll do it again.
MAD LAD. Make sure to keep the sharpness low (40% or lower) and also picture and brightness low too - lower picture all the way then bring up just to the point where you start to see pixel bloom in white colors. This maximizes the cozy softness of composite (or rf) w/ great scanlines.

>>5895309
True facts. Even better if you plug a shielded rca cable into the console then use a rca to f-type adapter to hook into tv.

>>5895672
looking_good.jpg
Pic related is rf too. Fite me zoomnerds

>>5895821
Rad. Is this from robot jox?

>> No.5896475

>>5896470
>>5895220
Meant to say sharpness at half (50%) or lower but depends on the crt make/model.

>> No.5896505

>>5895672
That’s pretty good for RF

>> No.5896717
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5896717

>s-video

>> No.5896786

>>5896470
>Is this from robot jox?
Yup!

>> No.5896850

>>5896470
Tomorrow is going to be a Happy Monday ;)

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5896854

>falls out of the socket

>> No.5896904

>>5896854
Don't pull the cable you colossal retard

>> No.5896949

>>5896854
that has literally never happened to me even once

>> No.5896973

>>5896854
don't use broken/shoddy scart cables

>> No.5897293

>>5895798
>It's not good for SD signal.
says who?

>> No.5897693

>>5896854
If anything it's the exact opposite problem for me. Every time I unplug scart cables it feels like I'm going to fucking break something.

I really do hate the design, but it's the standard and it provides an easy place to store components, so oh well.

>> No.5897854

>>5895207
>tfw had svideo
feels good, man
even as a kid, I knew there was better than shitty-ass composite

>> No.5898086

>>5897293
Common sense.

>> No.5898121
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5898121

>>5896786
Been meaning to watch this again. BRB watching this.

>> No.5898425

>>5895207
>not because of how much fucking space they took up
Okay

>> No.5898551

>>5898121
>Cybernator
Well, so much for me completing nofap

>> No.5899572

>>5898086
so source: your ass.

>> No.5899574

>>5895207
I always thought CRT stands for Crimson, Red, WhiTe to match the cables? Doesn't it?

>> No.5899582

>>5899574
>Crimson, Red, WhiTe to match the cables?
>red red white

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5899590

>>5895276
Fucking Season 1 and 2 of Metalocalypse.