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So uh, what are you guys gonna do in 10-20 years when all the PCBs in your old ass cartidges and all the components in your old systems die? One day all of these retro games and systems will be gone and you will be forced to buy repros.

>> No.5891691

>when all the PCBs in your old ass cartridges die
they will quite literally outlive me.

>> No.5891693

Thank god for Retroarch and emulation.

>> No.5891702

I just tried my buddy's sumosys, and I was quite impressed. probably $10,000 of secondary market value in that little device.
I'm currently in the market for a copy of Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen for SNES. At least $200.
sumosys is less than that and includes that game. it's already paid for itself.

>> No.5891703

>>5891683
small scale manufacturing capabilities have caught up to enable amateurs to build hardware specification compliant systems (ie, an FPGA will not reproduce, say, bus noise errors from faultily design, but will perform as the manual says it's intended behavior is)
> fat FPGAs = perfect copy of any chip set
> easy to make custom PCB = motherboards, carts, and controllers
> easy to 3D print or get custom vacuum form molding = console, cart, and controller housings
> high quality printers = boxes, manuals, and cart labels
who cares if old stuff dissolves, we can just make more at this point as hobbyists

>> No.5891704

>>5891683
>in 10-20 years
Add another 0 to that and you'll be closer to reality.

>> No.5891712

just keep making repros, its a bit like organism giving birth so they could survive thousands of years by doing this

>> No.5891724

FPGA replacements for proprietary chips, everything else is replaceable with a modern part. If SNES CPU failures suddenly explode, you might see someone bother to come up with a kit for a FPGA replacement and adapter socket. It's not viable yet, since SNES consoles have gone back below $50 for a working unit.

>> No.5891738

Another day, another zoomer trying to piss off boomers because he's unhappy in his own life.

>> No.5891753

Unless you're storing things in a swamp, the only "pressing" concerns are carts with on board batteries. And they're as likely to just dry up as they are to cause any damage. People act like every cap is gonna go Hiroshima on them. They're not all as bad as the xbox's clock cap. And even those are hilariously over stated considering how many still have to get pulled out by flippers.

>> No.5891817

>>5891683
What are you going to do in 10 years when you're finally old enough to post here? I have consoles older than you. I have CDs older than you. Hell, I probably have consoles older than your parents. protip: if you dispute that last part you're admitting to being literally retarded instead of underage so weigh your options before LARPing.

>> No.5891974

>>5891683
I don't even use my physical stuff now because it's easier to just take out a laptop and emulate than it is to dig out old shit and hook it up with RF quality video when I could have crisp pixels and use any controller I want and not be limited to old controllers that my hands can't go back to now.

>> No.5891979

>RF quality video
It's almost composite level quality now they've stopped broadcasting on those frequencies. Was playing SNES over RF the other day, fucking zero RF interference. Picture looked surprisingly good.

>> No.5892092

>>5891683
I'll seal them in acrylic cases and sell them to idiots.

>> No.5892094

>>5891817
Do you have video games from the 1960s?

>> No.5892112

>>5891683
If my mega drive ever craps itself I have my analogue mega sg, so meh.

>> No.5892139

>>5892094
Do you have the inclination to LARP about being 18+? Remember. To do that is to admit that you're a shitposting brain damaged adult with the mind of a child.

>> No.5892270

>>5892139
>LARP
YOU STUPID FAGGOT
LARP STANDS FOR LIVE ACTION ROLE PLAY
YOU CANT “LARP” ON THE INTERNET YOU FUCKING CUNT YOU CAN ONLY RP

>> No.5892508

>>5892139
I'm not that child, I'm just curious if you do.

>> No.5892515

>no-intro collection

>> No.5892524

>>5891979
Really? That's pretty cool.

>> No.5892536
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>>5891683
I dunno. I guess the same as whatever you'll do when the solar EMP bricks your emulation machine.

>> No.5893210

>>5892270
not sure of trolling or just very stupid

>>5892508
The oldest I have are from the early 70's

>> No.5893268

>>5892536
this, we could get hit by a random stray flare literally any moment, OP just don’t worry about stuff you have no control over

>> No.5894702

>>5893268
But you're still retarded if you collect anything that will stop functioning eventually

>> No.5894707

>>5893210
>not sure of trolling or just very stupid
Well, they’re not wrong. You can’t LARP on an online forum. You’re probably the stupid one desu.

>> No.5894725

>>5894702
>retarded if you collect anything that will stop functioning
>nothing lasts forever
>hence collecting is retarded
i'm ok with this

>> No.5894883

>>5894707
>Well, they're not not me. I'm proving you can LARP on "an online forum"

>> No.5894887

>>5891979
It more depends on the cable quality.

>> No.5894891

>>5891693
Based

>> No.5894893

>>5894883
Still not using LARP correctly.

>> No.5894904

>>5891683
I'm already in the process of selling everything. I played the originals in their time, and experienced the real thing. Needing anything beyond flash carts, and emulation is autism.

>> No.5894913

If this stuff is stored properly it will likely outlive me and my children.

>> No.5896135

>>5894893
u mad summer?

>> No.5896250

I'm going to upload my own consciousness along with all my games into a supercomputer and live forever playing them in a simulated reality.

Or, maybe I already did it, and you're all just the NPCs in my retro heaven.

>> No.5896385

>>5896250
Welcome to 4chan!

>> No.5896682

>>5896250
literally sounds like NPC dialogue from a game targeted at tweens

>> No.5896698

>>5896682
No, it literally sounds like a line from Ready Player One.
AKA, dialogue from a book targeted at men acting like tweens.

>> No.5898607

So why does that particular part of the case turn brown and not the rest?

>> No.5898612

Start jacking off more I guess.

>> No.5898613

>>5898607
that particular part had the faulty fire retardant which causes the yellowing why the other doesn't.

>> No.5898615
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>>5891683
Nothing. No sweat, bro

>> No.5899012

SHCRABBLE ROCK
SHCRABBLE ROCK

>> No.5899024

My mega drive has been holdung up quite nicely so far.
Only had to re-solder a loose power jack.
Caps still look good.
Also my PS1 needed a new spindle.
Pretty sure my consoles will outlive me.

>> No.5899032

>So uh, what are you guys gonna do in 10-20 years when all the PCBs in your old ass cartidges and all the components in your old systems die? One day all of these retro games and systems will be gone and you will be forced to buy repros.
You just pulled 10-20 years from your ASS HOLE, you fucking scumbag. Disc rot will happen in 0-20 years, not PCBS - and you obviously don't even have a clue what a PCB is.

About quarter of a century ago my mom asked the girl at the store how long the cartridges would last and she said the games last forever. She was proven right - well, depending on how autistic you want to be about "forever". There is no physical or chemical reason why they would disintegrate at any rate that will be significant in our lifetime. They will quite literally outlive us all.

>> No.5899801

>>5899032
>They will quite literally outlive us all
I think you might be underestimating exactly how underage OP is

>> No.5899803

>>5898615
kek

>> No.5900293

>>5891683
I start shootin real folks. I need my fix.

>> No.5900360

>>5900293
Violent video games don't cause violence, the lack of violent video games does.

>> No.5900376

1. You can't "larp" on the internet, it's not live action
and
2. -
>>5899032
>There is no physical or chemical reason why they would disintegrate at any rate that will be significant in our lifetime
Electrical components face wear and tear from electrons, especially components that face wide swings on power. Most home game consoles are made with moderately cheap components, but are also built to resist the antics of "dumb fucking kids". There's really no way to know how long those cheap ICs will hold out. Such finely manufactured components are always prone toward damage. Powering them on and off a lot will of course greatly cut down lifespan.

Don't assume your consoles will survive. Have an extra one of each in case one dies. And that should easily cover you, as long as you can also replace caps(which can chemically fail).

>> No.5900419

>>5891704
>010-020 years

>> No.5900426

>>5900419
The snes specifically has a shitty processor that tends to die.

Almost everything else either doesnt go bad or can be trivially replaced. People fix 60 70 80 year old electronics all the time.

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>>5900376

>> No.5901336

>>5892139
Who hurt you anon.

>> No.5901357
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>>5901336
>people laugh at the stupid things i do because someone hurt them

>> No.5901358
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5901358

Atari 2600, NES, SNES and GameBoy have been emulated to essential perfection. Outside of edge cases, GBA, SEGA Master System and Genesis are perfect as well. PS1 and DS are mostly solid. PS2, Gamecube, Wii and N64 have flaws but are always getting better. I don't see the problem.

>> No.5901407

>>5891683
>So uh, what are you guys gonna do in 10-20 years when all the PCBs in your old ass cartidges
Cartridge ROMs are just storage containers for data.

>> No.5901409

>>5900426
>The snes specifically has a shitty processor that tends to die.
But that's only on the first revision ones?

>> No.5901494

>>5901409
yes, and it's a rare issue even there

>> No.5901496

>>5901358
>Atari 2600, NES, SNES and GameBoy have been emulated to essential perfection.
nope

>> No.5901510

In fact IC failures in SHVC SNESes seem unnervingly frequent. But you can avoid it by purchasing a later model; the design of the case will give away what PCB revision it is.

>> No.5901515

>>5891683
this image is turning me on. tan lines are my fetish

>> No.5901607

>>5891979
Actually I was forced to play my Dreamcast over RF for part of last week. Looked...normal?

>> No.5901749

>>5901357
Are you okay?

>> No.5901756

>>5896698
>Ready Player One
>A book marketed toward men
Not sure if you've ever entered a bookstore, but that's not a book that is in adult fiction.

>> No.5901759

I'm just going to ask here, because who gives a shit.
The romhacks for NES games that change the mappers from CNROM, or MMCx to a greater number MMCx, do they perform faster overall, or what is the desired result of these hacks?
t. brainlet