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5881603 No.5881603 [Reply] [Original]

>abandon the completely original and unique aesthetic of SMB2-NES in favor of the exact same art style as the "facelift" of SMB1
Fucking barf.

>> No.5881606

it just werks

>> No.5881607

>>5881606
It's asinine dogshit holocaust farts. I hate All Stars so fucking much. Fuck All Stars all day. It is memes. It is reddit. Imagine just drawing on top of SMB3 in MS Paint and calling the result 16 bit. They are retarded.

>> No.5881618

he he, just what i needed!

>> No.5881635

Stop hemorrhaging you goddamn woman. Soul is just buzzword for petty bullshit.

>> No.5881642
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5881642

SMB2 looks fucking trash anyway
>take everything from SMB and add superfluous faces and texture

>> No.5881665
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>> No.5881676

>>5881603
It's a children's game.

>> No.5881681

>>5881607
you're getting lazy

>> No.5881685

>>5881665
All Stars caves are better. I never understood those in SMB3, I always thought it was in space or something.

>> No.5881691
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5881691

look what they did to 5-1

>> No.5881693

>>5881676
All games are for either children or manchildren.

>> No.5881695

>>5881693
only sith deal in absolutes

>> No.5881708

Honest question; are all the Super Mario All-stars hate threads that get posted here a meme?

>> No.5881723

>>5881708
yes, All Stars is an amazing collection of games

>> No.5881726

>>5881708
Yeah same guy posting them. He's been at it for years.

>> No.5881745

>>5881708
Yeah, some of the changes aren't the best but overall solid remakes and a good alternative to the originals.

>> No.5881769

>>5881695
That's an absolute

>> No.5881773

>>5881603
>trees without faces
why even live

>> No.5881776
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5881776

>>5881769

>> No.5881779

>>5881603
They should have given ALL the games on All Stars the same character sprites and tilesets to give them a cohesive look.

>> No.5881847

I'm playing through SMB2J and wow this game is piss. I'm glad they brought over a superior sequel to NA.

>> No.5881856

>>5881607
All Stars looks better over all though.

>> No.5881858

>>5881665
>>5881691
The lego bricks are out of place and look worse. The others are all as good or better than the original.

>> No.5881882

>>5881847
>they brought over a superior sequel to NA.
Wrong.

>> No.5881883

>>5881603
As always, you're not wrong, but I'm tired of seeing this same thing spammed over and over for years. I know it's you doing it, just stop.

>> No.5881897

>>5881603
SMB2 on NES is ugly, though. Way too many busy textures, especially the ground. The simple aesthetic of SMB1 is infinitely better than anything in SMB2. I'm not terribly fond of the All Stars look for SMB1 and 2, either, though.

>> No.5881901

>>5881882
Donkey Kong Picnic is better than the real Mario games.

>> No.5881903

>>5881691
>look what they did to 5-1
They improved it in every way.

>> No.5881939

>>5881603
why does all-stars trigger people? do people really get upset when people prefer a prettier version of a game?

>> No.5881947

>>5881939
Just one guy really. But that's autism for you.

>> No.5881949

>>5881939
It's not prettier though.It looks like one of those amateur flash games or something built in a game maker program. Although it's really not that big of an issue and people can play whatever version they like.

>> No.5881965

>>5881949
I agree with that guy that it's prettier, but agree with you people should just play whatever version they like best.

>> No.5881971

>>5881949
>It looks like one of those amateur flash games or something built in a game maker program.
That's only because you've seen so many of these fanmade games using ripped assets when you were younger that you subconsciously associate these graphics with them rather than their original source. There is nothing wrong with All-Stars, it's actually prettier and objectively more detailed than Super Mario World.

>> No.5882002

>>5881939
These is a slight change in the physics between SMB3 on the different versions that’s annoying to me, but I don’t really care about the graphical changes

>> No.5882004

All Stars has better style than SMW, let alone the NES shit whose color palette doesn't make sense.

>> No.5882012

>>5881882
Why? Better setting, enemies and stages.
SMB2J is just an attempt to make as many abject obstacles and stupid situations with the SMB1 setting and assets.

>> No.5882015
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>>5881949
>It's not prettier though.
But it is. The nes version looks unironically like terrible compared to all-stars.
>>5882002
I know theres a change in physics and this is most likely due to a change in resolution for each console.
>>5882004
Everyone knows SMW looks like plastic crap with all sorts of different styles mixed in. Its one of the many reasons its garbage.

>> No.5882017

>>5882004
>>5882015
I like the look of SMW a lot, I just don't like playing it.

>> No.5882060

>>5881607
>. Imagine just drawing on top of SMB3 in MS Paint and calling the result 16 bit.
But the whole idea was to have the exact same game, albeit with a facelift. Alright, I get that they altered the physics on SMB1 and 2 but they shouldn't have done that - the whole idea was to have the gameplay completely unaltered.

Plus it was 16-bit in the sense that it was running on 16-bit architecture.

>> No.5882076

>>5881603
>completely original and unique aesthetic of SMB2-NES
kek I'm no fan of all-stars but that's a stretch

>> No.5882298

>>5881665
Well quit bitching and make a ROM hack that looks better then. Let's see what YOU can do.

>> No.5882308

>>5881603

probably done to reduce cartridge space.

>> No.5882315

>>5881903
It takes place in Giant Dildo Land, that's not better

>> No.5882323

>7-4
Fuck that shit. You know which one.

Also, I'm playing the snes remake and Luigi can jump higher, is this feature in the original?

>> No.5882326

>>5882323
>Also, I'm playing the snes remake
STOP IMMEDIATELY

>> No.5882328

>>5881603
Reusing straight smb1 AS tiles is fine enough to work but it could have been changed to match what they did with 2 fds.

>> No.5882329

>>5881607
>Imagine just drawing on top of SMB3 in MS Paint and calling the result 16 bit

that's what is done though

>> No.5882332

>>5882298
people couldn't be bothered to because laziness and/or lack of skill so they resort to bitching than doing something worthwhile

>> No.5882339

>>5882315
it's a winter wonderland with colorful mountains. putting your mind literally in a gutter can't be healthy anon

>> No.5882348

>>5881603
>All Stars Autist complains about improved visuals and says they're bad.
>never once has ever mentioned the only thing in All Stars that is a true downgrade: the MUSIC
All those fucking muffled steel drums and horn sounds. It's so bad.

>> No.5882486

>>5881603
>completely original and unique

>> No.5882496
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>>5881685
I assumed they were meant to be mineral deposits sparkling in a dark cave.

>> No.5882524

>>5881603
Either you need a graphics hack for the SNES game, you you need savefile hacks for each of the NES games.

>> No.5882526

>>5881847
Wrong

If you actually play the game and work through it you'll realize it's a very intelligent and well thought out expansion of smb1. Smb1 is just tutorial levels for smb2

>> No.5882527

>>5881603
The remake doesn't remove the original from existence, fucko. Now you can play official, polished versions in both SMB2 and SMW graphics and physics. Were you not as irrecoverably dumb as you are, you would've recognized that having more options is always better than having fewer options (unless you have a mental illness, of course).

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>>5881607
.

>> No.5882560

>>5881603
SMB 2 All Stars is the best looking game on All Stars tho

>> No.5882561

>>5881665
legos>tetris blocks
based nintendo

>> No.5882563

>>5881691
>he doesnt like happy clouds
cringe and not-BobRosspilled

>> No.5882612

>>5881603
There is a compromise.
https://anonfile.com/C6d3I25cn8/Super_Mario_All-Stars_NES_emu_v10-15-17_zip

>> No.5882639

>>5882315
We get it, you're pretending you're not a faggot

>> No.5882641

>>5882496
But what about the blue ground? Don't tell me you didn't think that was moon rock.

>> No.5882712

>>5881607
It's like puking on a pile of shit, what were they thinking?!

>> No.5882714

>>5881665
>original NES cave music
>dope-ass beat, iconic bassline

>All-Stars cave music
>sounds like an episode of Seinfeld

>> No.5882728

>>5881607
You are sounding 4chan to me. Is that what you want, to be another drone?

>> No.5882770

>>5882298
im already a gamedev making my own games. also why make a rom hack when i can just play the original

>> No.5882819

>>5881607
This guy FUCKS

>> No.5882946

>>5881603
The only thing wrong with the All Stars version is that there's not enough steel drum.

>> No.5883148

>>5881947
It might be just one guy, but he does make some valid points. The Lost Levels one though might be the least persuasive image I've seen yet.

>> No.5883172

>>5882348
God, you're right. I had forgotten how horrid it was, as a kid I always played it with other music on instead and now I remember why. Good lord it's bad.

>> No.5883213 [DELETED] 

>>5882714
post butthole

>> No.5883363

>>5882714
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1XUqy5Pf3Q
holy shit, i feel bad for people who grew up with all stars

>> No.5883378

I like both but I would like to see what a more faithful 16 bit conversion of the games would look like


alternatively, an all stars 8 bit demake

>> No.5883401
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>>5883363
I for one enjoy the RUN DMC drum machine sound and soulful SNES reverb.
Friendly reminder that Koji Kondo personally remastered all of the music for Super Mario All-Stars, creating a soundtrack that was more in-line with his original vision and was not hampered by the NES sound chip limitations.

Shitting on the All-Stars soundtrack is like shitting directly into the mouth of Koji Kondo. For shame.

>> No.5883407

>>5883401
koji konda has some great songs, but also a ton of missteps along the way

>> No.5883409
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5883409

>>5882714
>>sounds like an episode of Seinfeld
This is a perfect description.

>> No.5883410

>>5883401
>Friendly reminder that Koji Kondo personally remastered all of the music for Super Mario All-Stars, creating a soundtrack that was more in-line with his original vision and was not hampered by the NES sound chip limitations.
Sounds like his original vision was shit and the limitations of the NES sound chip focused his effort and helped him refine it into something more elegant than he originally envisioned.

>> No.5883446

>>5882526
>stupid "do it in the right order or else it goes on forever" sections
>trite leaps of faith and springs with broken physics
>"mystery" invisible block sections that aren't enough to be a real challenge, just a nuisance
>backwards warps (that trick you exactly once)
It ranges from benign challenge to practical-joke grade tests. It's about as well thought out as a whoopee cushion. Good riddance.

>> No.5883450

>>5883410
Seethe aural retard

>> No.5883492

>>5883450
>allstars fag calling others retard

>> No.5884056

Honestly all this fuzz about All-Stars made me check out the collection and was quite pleasantly surprised. Solid remakes full of SOUL. Can't say the same about most modern remakes.

>> No.5884082

>>5884056
nice try shill, nobody likes those garbage physics and trash music, stop trying to trick people into getting AIDS

>> No.5884087

>>5884082
don't play it anon, I don't care. They have SOUL, and you don't.

>> No.5884102

I don't like the way Super Mario World looks. Especially Mario's sprites.

>> No.5884121

>>5884102
okay

>> No.5884207

>>5884082
All Stars is pretty soulful, it just has bad music.

>> No.5884232
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5884232

>>5881776
>unironic impact font meme in 2019

>> No.5884303

>>5881708
I can't really speak for anyone else, but I definitely think they're solid remakes. That said, the All Stars versions are definitely aesthetically inferior to the originals, although SMB3 is the only hill that I'm really willing to die on there. It had a cool pop art look to it that you didn't really see in other platformers, and changing it to these generic plains and caves really didn't do it any favors. I also think that a lot of the ground textures were a bit messy. Overall, there's nothing I'd really say is "wrong" with it, it's just bland.

The one thing I do hate, though, is the sound that enemies make when you jump on them. I dunno if it's just me, but I can't hear it as anything other than the sound of an attack that didn't actually damage the enemy.

>> No.5884410

>>5884102
its a very ugly game
the only nice part is some of the backgrounds

>> No.5884445
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5884445

>>5884087
>>5884056
Based.

>> No.5884449

>>5884445
kino

>> No.5884482

>>5884410
I would describe it as functional.

>> No.5884504

Outdoor levels i like the all-stars. Indoor levels I like the originals.

>> No.5884560
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>>5884449

>> No.5884780

>SMB All-Stars + Brick Fix patch

If you're not playing it like this you might as well go back to 8-bit, you really were getting an inferior product. Not sure how Q&A let that pass.

>> No.5884814

>hit brick
>accelerate 1,000,000 miles upward
Wow what the fuck I'm with All-Stars-kun now

>> No.5884819
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5884819

they completely missed the point

>> No.5884823

>>5881858
>lego bricks
those are n&b blocks

>> No.5884915

>>5881858
It's a internal joke, a shout out to N&B Bricks

>> No.5885404
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5885404

>>5884445
So good. All Stars backgrounds are peak comfy.
I feel bad for anti-allstars guy, his sour grapes are palpable.

>> No.5885518

>>5885404
Allstars-kun probably has accumulated more replies than anyone in the history of this board. So who's laughing now?

>> No.5886204

>>5881776
Please leave fag

>> No.5886420

>>5884232
Fuck off meme lord faggot

>> No.5886456

>>5882770
>im already a gamedev making my own games
Show us your project, anon.

>> No.5886460

>>5883363
You can actually tell it's in 4/4. On the NES it seemed more like an atemporal mess.

>> No.5886462

All I can say is, having played SMB 1-3 on a friend's NES quite exhaustively, Christmas morning 1993 playing my fresh new All Stars cart fucking blew my mind.

The music is good but the graphical reskin is just mint. I remember sliding down the hill on 1-5 and seeing the parallax sky giving way to the cave interior and just knowing that this would be the way the games will be remembered.

>> No.5886506

Anyone else feel like this is a ploy to get people to love All Stars through contrarianism?

>> No.5886534

>>5881603
This is actually a good point unlike most All Stars complaints. All Stars Lost Levels looks the same as Mario 1 when the original game had some unique backgrounds and assets. I feel like since most people played All-Stars they're missing some of the things that made the FDS version different from Mario 1, which is a common criticism of Lost Levels. Super Mario Bros Deluxe has the same problem.

>> No.5886575
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>>5881607
I unironically agree with you. All Stars looks like cheap, sterile bullshit compared to the minimalism of the NES.

>> No.5886591

>>5881607
Wow I didn't know the AVGN posted on /vr/

>> No.5886715

>>5886591
If AVGN was to post on 4chan, this would be his board.

>> No.5886734

Who fucking cares, the original game still exists so if you don't like all stars you can just play the original

>> No.5886736

>>5886462
You are too pure for this world.

>> No.5886754

>>5886575
brain too fat to fit in skull

>> No.5886769
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>>5886754
*too big

>> No.5886832

>>5882714
It sounds like Seinfeld because Koji Kondo recorded all of his SNES music on a Korg M1 workstation keyboard. That's also the source of the Seinfeld bass, the preset on it is literally called "SlapBass". The steel drum sounds are also from that machine.

>> No.5886867

>>5884915
>It's a internal joke, a shout out to N&B Bricks
Exactly, or what I would refer to as "s o u l".
All-Stars haters (is there more than one or is it just the one guy?) are so consumed by mindless rage, they gloss over the wonderful little personal touches Nintendo EAD painstakingly added to All-Stars.

It's just plain sad, really.

>> No.5886870

>>5884823
>>5884915
That is pretty cool then.

>> No.5886893

>>5886832
Was he backed by his musical maestro with fingers like a centipede, Glenn Ponder?

>> No.5887293

>>5884823
>>5884915
That is fucking amazing.
These threads are making me love All Stars more and more.

>> No.5887297

>>5881603
I grew up with an NES and a SNES. I prefer the physics of the original Mario, and the art of the All Stars version.
At least for the first two famicon games.

>> No.5887315

>>5883363
Don't feel too bad; most of them deserve it.

>> No.5887316

>>5886867
References are a stand-in for soul to the empty zoomer.

>> No.5887317

>>5887315
Most of us grew up with the NES games and then got All Stars for SNES.
And both versions can be appreciated for their own strengths. Only incel low IQ emulator kids think otherwise.

>> No.5887319

>>5886867
>is there more than one or is it just the one guy?
Pretty sure it's just 1 guy.
Maybe some other people are like "huh, yeah I guess this little nitpick in the original was better" but the one guy who's obsessed about hating it is just 1 guy who's been at it for literal years. He started this on /v/ before /vr/ even existed.

>> No.5887406

>>5887317
>All Stars
>And both versions can be appreciated for their own strengths.
What strengths?

>> No.5887447

>>5887406
I won't belive you honestly think these look bad:
>>5884445
>>5885404
The NES originals also have their own good aesthetic. Both can co-exist. All Stars doesn't look like lazy remakes, they look like cozy 16-bit SOUL.
The only actual criticism I agree with is that they could have made unique assets for Lost Levels, that's an actual flaw. But comparing stuff like the underground space background on NES SMB3 vs the many different backgrounds with parallax and other effects on All Stars? Both are good. If you prefer one over the other it's just subjective.

>> No.5887484

>>5882819
Go back

>> No.5887550

>tfw allstars-kun is literally the only person on this board capable of making a thread that hits the bump limit
How does he do it, bros?

>> No.5887554

>>5887550
Persistence. A lot of it.

>> No.5888232

>>5884915
What are N&B bricks?

>> No.5888236
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5888236

>>5888232
Nintendo's own lego bricks.
They were also referenced on Super Mario Land 2.

>> No.5888242

>>5883401
What a load of bullshit, lol
Soya Oka (Pilotwings, Sim City, Super Mario Kart) is solely responsible for the Super Mario All-Stars soundtrack. Koji Kondo at best approved some of her remixes, but that's it. The man had bigger things to worry about at the time, like Yoshi's Island.

>> No.5888243

Started playing All-Stars because of these threads. In motion the games are gorgeous. SMB1 in particular feels a lot more alive with more than just a clear purple sky occupying the background.

>> No.5888249

All these threads make me think, I'd the all stars are basically a palette swap and a few eyes of the original graphics why hasn't anyone made a graphics hacks for the games that makes it more faithful to the NES while keeping the original aesthetic

>> No.5888274

>>5888249
Because that would be retarded.

>> No.5888296

>>5883401
5 nintendo store points have been deposited to your account.

>> No.5888805
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5888805

>>5888243
>In motion the games are gorgeous
Yep

>> No.5889415

>>5888805
Post more you cum rag.

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>>5881603
Pro Tip: If you don't like it, don't play it.

>> No.5890151

>>5881708
All Stars might be the best remake collection ever made. I understand why people would prefer original over it but I enjoyed them with my SNES. It's actually the first time I ever played fully through those games. Since none of them had saves so you either just used warps to see the end or had to leave it on which my parents would never allow.

Want to play them now just fucking emulate the NES and have fun. But back than the idea of having a complete Super Mario Bro collect on a single cart with "updated" graphics was one of the most mind blowing things ever thought of.

>> No.5890178

>>5890151
I wish Nintendo still did stuff like this.

>> No.5890209

>>5890178
Think the issue is a few things. One is moving from NES look to SNES was a massive leap but moving to say SNES to higher pixel look isn't the same level of increase so doing a updated look would seem kind of pointless. The other is there was enough NES SMB games to allow a collection to happen. Another is Mario games are so simple in a lot of ways that doing All Stars might have just been a simple fun project on the side while working on their other games so it didn't really take as much time nor resources to do.

Nintendo still does remakes (Link's Awakening is coming out in a few days) but they tend to be standalone since the budgets doesn't really allow for full on remakes of multiple games.

>> No.5890217

>>5881607
imagine getting this assblasted over a videogame

>> No.5890268
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5890268

>>5890151
Hear, hear!

>> No.5891860

>>5883401
Every word of this is bullshit.

>> No.5892795
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>>5889415

>> No.5892802
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>> No.5892952

>>5882060
>Alright, I get that they altered the physics on SMB1 and 2 but they shouldn't have done that - the whole idea was to have the gameplay completely unaltered.
this is completely overblown. It was an accidental bug, that's it. And there are already patches out there to fix it if it bothers you so much.
Like 90% of all stars is copy pasted code redone for the 65c618

>> No.5892971

>>5892952
I was defending the game by saying the entire point was to have the exact same game just with a reskin. I was also covering myself against autists who might go "hurr durr it's not exactly the same because muh blockjumps are different".

>> No.5893765

>>5881607
"drawing on top of SMB3" is actually ideal because it keeps the original style while adding more colors. However, the SMAS version of SMB3 is inferior because of that butt ugly darker palette and unnecessary revisions of backgrounds and such.

>> No.5893772

>>5881603
Thought it looked good when I played it as a kid. It showcased the new system that I got awesomely

>> No.5893773

>>5886832
>Koji Kondo recorded all of his SNES music on a Korg M1 workstation keyboard
You mean someone could "restore" all the Yoshi's Island music with the Korg M1 the same way that one guy is "restoring" the Donkey Kong Country trilogy's music with the original sounds?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIk6YFTzckc

Please god let this happen.

>> No.5893803

>>5893773
That sounds exactly like the cartridge music but with copious amounts of awful background hiss. Audiophiles are so dumb lmao.

>> No.5893814

>>5893803
>can't hear the extra rich detail caused by the lack of SNES compression
I feel so bad for earlets.

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5893941

>>5881618
Underrated he he poster

>> No.5894065

>>5893803
That one isn't very impressive and a terrible example because it's almost exactly the same as the SNES variant.

But then you listen to shit like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyBdid7zOlI and it's mindblowing.

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>>5893773
>>5894065
That's fucking awesome, best post in the thread.

Speaking of which, for such a shitty OP this thread has turned out pretty cool. Good job everyone.

>> No.5894325

>>5893814
This. It's subtle, but there's definitely some extra detail/texture there.

>> No.5894859

This fucking thread will never die, will it? It will be weeks until we can finally be rid of this sick Allstars slander from the mentally ill boomer posting this crap.

I'm sickened and ashamed.

>> No.5894876

>>5894859
The OP is correct, Allstars lost levels looks the same as Mario 1 when the Famicom version had some differences to set it apart from Mario 1. SMB3 is better on the SNES though because of the save feature.

>> No.5895164

>>5894859
>It will be weeks until we can finally be rid of this sick
threads autosage after two weeks.

>> No.5895215

>>5894876
>Allstars lost levels looks the same as Mario 1 when the Famicom version had some differences to set it apart from Mario 1.
The Famicom version of SMB2J looks like fucking garbage. All of the new tiles looked bad compared to SMB1 NES and the extra background elements are something that got backported to SMB1 All Stars, so of course they look the same there.

>> No.5895939

>>5895215
They are much more polished than the SMB1 tiles and it's also the first Mario games to give the background and mushrooms the eyes on them that have since become staples. While All Stars has the clouds with eyes, those trees in the background are missing the eyes and so are mushrooms.

>> No.5896280

>>5895939
The tiles are higher detail but they stand out way too much and clash with all of the other assets as a result so it looks terrible.

>> No.5897075

>>5882770
Applying rom hacks doesn't make you a gamedev, anon.