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Billy Mitchell is suing Guinness World Records. hilarious.

>Competitive video gamer Billy Mitchell is threatening "legal recourse" against Guinness World Records and the Twin Galaxies scoreboard if they don't retract "defamatory statements" against him and reinstate his expunged video game high score world records within the next two weeks.
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>At the time, Mitchell said he planned to provide witnesses and documents that would "show that everything was done professionally, according to the rules." Mitchell has now attempted to do just that, sending Twin Galaxies a 156-page document dump outlining his disputes through a collection of screenshots, witness statements, and "technical evidence."

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/09/former-donkey-kong-champ-threatens-to-sue-guinness-over-record-removal

here's billy's evidence (pdf):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BMbW-_fSwCFQ1Kzl59pj7TnoQiuAdgcJ/view

>> No.5879431

So fucking pathetic watching a grown man pride himself on a Donkey Kong score.

>> No.5879438

>>5879429

Don't make him prove it a THIRD time ffs.

>> No.5879439

>>5879431
No it's not.

But it is pathetic to pride himself on a FAKE Donkey Kong score.

>> No.5879442

Maybe if he's freaking out this much, he's actually innocent of being cheating son of a bitch.

>> No.5879447

>>5879442
nice try Billy

>> No.5879519
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5879519

Holy crap, the hot-sauce jingo midget needs more attention.

>> No.5879629

>>5879429
Is this really all this man has to live for? Maybe he should just end it.

>> No.5879724

>>5879629
>Is this really all this man has to live for?
yes. he's that sad.
>Maybe he should just end it.
would be for the best.

>> No.5879741

>>5879442
Or maybe he's just a dumb con artist that's trying to keep a grift going long past the point that makes objective sense to an outside observer

>> No.5879745

>>5879429
Yeah, I'm thinking he's back.

>> No.5879759

>>5879741
The thing is he actually is THAT good (or close to it) and he fucked up his rep for nothing and everything he tries to do to fix it makes him look shadier and pisses off more people who used to actually like him, including some of his formerly closest friends... and that's a good thing! Desperate Alcoholic Billy is my favorite variant so far. The most electrifying man in competitive video game entertainment, since they finally put Kuroda away for rape.

>> No.5879814

>>5879439
fake or not what the hell is billy even doing?

last time i checked he hasn't been in the top of the leaderboard for donkey kong long time.

>> No.5879838

>>5879814
Before the controversy he would make a lot of money going around conventions, giving talks, being featured as a guest, sponsorships, etc.

It's likely he's lost most of that now. I could be completely wrong though and this may be 100% an ego thing for him.

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>>5879429

>> No.5879846

Billy, just take the L.

>> No.5879851

>>5879838
There might be a case to be made for that but I find it hard to believe many people are paying him to appear at cons or give talks. Talks for what? Most people probably never even heard of him until the King of Kong movie which portrayed him as kind of a dick anyway. Either way it's probably more to do with his dumb hot sauce and restaurant since why would you buy HIS hot sauce over the literal 5,000 other kinds on the market if not because of him? There's certainly a brand name recognition factor but I'm also sure he is desperately trying to cling on to what little fame he had from 70s because being just "restaurant owner" isn't very glamorous and he likes the attention.

>> No.5879952

>>5879838
>giving talks
on what?

>> No.5880051

how did they prove he didnt get his high score?

>> No.5880148

>>5879429
Based billy, hope he tears them a new one.

>> No.5880150

>>5880051
afaik, and I may be wrong, but it was proven he played on MAME but submitted it as if he was playing on a real cabinet which is deceitful and against the rules. MAME runs have their own categories, which being so high up in the hierarchy of Twin Galaxies he would know, but still tried to pull the wool over everyone's eyes.

>> No.5880175

>>5880150
he not only used MAME but reloaded his state about a trillion times and edited that out of the video

>> No.5880179 [DELETED] 

the same fags that believe billy "cheated" are the same fags that think trump didn't legitimately win the presidential election

>> No.5880270

>>5879952
running a business

>> No.5880307

>>5879851
>>5879952
OK maybe "talks" was pushing it but he definitely would make the rounds and be paid to show up to convention and sign shit. As far as I can tell he still goes to conventions, but I can't imagine he gets invited as much as he used to now.

>> No.5880331

Tbh billy Mitchell is a really good arcade player I mean the man can and has gotten a perfect score on Pac-Man LIVE it takes a special like of technical skill and talent to do something like that. Dunno if he’s cheated or not but it’s kind of sad to see people throw the guy under the bus with that idiot who lied about his dragster score.

>> No.5880353

>>5880331
It's painfully obvious he didn't "cheat" in the traditional sense of the word, he just submitted a score from a cab running on mame as if it were an original PCB. I fully understand that emulation is never perfect and it shouldn't be considered for a score on the arcade leaderboard, but all the attacks, smears, intentional disinfo, and the completely over the top response from Twin Galaxies themselves has just been pathetic.

>> No.5880358

>>5880353
This. People also forget he scored over a million, 4 times lives on twitch, like a month after his scores were pulled.

People hate his persona, and rope him in with todd rogers instead of just recognizing they fell for a gimmick.

>> No.5880367

>>5879429
He'll fight
And he'll win!

>> No.5880368

>>5880358
They didn't "forget", they conveniently ignored it because they're scumbags desperate for drama even if it means perpetuating a lie.

>> No.5880391

>>5879439
Holy fuck yes it is, it's absolutely humiliating.

>> No.5880395

Mitchell did nothing wrong.

>> No.5880396

>>5880353
Nah he had obscenely good luck denouncing a edited/splitted run. Danky Kang gives you random points and he so happens to roll the maximum value every time, what a coincidence.

>> No.5880397

>>5880396
He already beat the score on a legit PCB, but okay.

>> No.5880404

>>5880397
Remember, werster, holds several number ones on speedrun.com and has admitted to cheating several times.

But that's okay because we all like werster.

>> No.5880405

>>5880397
the fact that he didn't need to cheat just makes it funnier

>>5880391
git gud

>> No.5880409

>>5879519
Don't puss out, show them torn up with a timestamp. We know you just sat them there and will hang them up again after the tumblr tier photo shoot.

>> No.5880453

Is being contrarian and saying that Billy didn't lie some hot new zoomer meme?

>> No.5880457 [DELETED] 

>>5880453
Shut the fuck up faggot, people are waking up and realizing Billy did nothing wrong and it was all a bad meme campaign.

>> No.5880471

>>5880457
seething Billy
next time try use a newer version of MAME and splice your videos better ;)

>> No.5880487

>>5879741
>grift
Spoken like a true (((outside observer)))

>> No.5880489

>>5879439
Both are super pathetic, so much so it barely makes a difference which it is.

>> No.5880537

>>5880404
The difference with Werster is that a) he admitted to it and apologized, and b) he was nine fucking years old at the time. I'm no fan of Werster but the situation is completely different.

>> No.5880667

Billy had it coming.Act like a douchebag, get treated like a douchebag. I don't feel bad for him at all even if he didn't cheat.

>> No.5880721
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5880721

>>5879429
lol what a clown

>> No.5880743

Why does anyone care in any way at all? Bragging or holding a "world record" in a video game is the gayest shit you could ever do. Like it's not even an accomplishment of any kind.

>> No.5880749

>>5880743
Back to your RPG friendship simulators, tranny.

Competitive gaming is best gaming.

>> No.5880754

>>5880743
That's kind of the whole point. Billy is married, owns his own restaurant, markets his own brand of hot sauces, has many fans around the world, and yet still somehow all that success is not enough. It's so fascinating to see all the lengths he'll go to just to have this one record that no one else on Earth gives a shit about. It's really sad, but at the same time it's like a car wreck, you can't look away.

>> No.5880759

>>5879952
konkey dongs.

>> No.5880760

>>5880749
>competitive gaming
Having fun with your children's toys there pal?
Scoring some BIG numbers? Get a trophy?
Can you tell me all about the latest "e-sports?"

>>5880754
It's fucking pathetic is what it is. The dude probably has autism.

>> No.5880768

>>5879431
That's more important than whatever it is you're doing.

>> No.5880769

>>5880754
At least part of it is because he markets his hot sauce as "Video Game Champion Billy Mitchell's Hot Sauce". His video game scores are his claim to fame.

>> No.5880774

>>5880769
i heard it's not even good hot sauce.

>> No.5880775

Billy NEVER credit fed.

>These people come up to me, tell me about their high scores. I ask them, "So how much money did it cost you?"

>They watch me play. Ask me, "wow, you're really still on your first quarter?" No. I'm on my first man.

>> No.5880782

>>5880760
I mean, you seem to have autism too so I don't see where you are going with that.

>> No.5880783

>>5880769
He could still be a champion even if he's not the current champion. Or he could market it as the champion of PacMan, he needs to let the DK thing go, he's obsessed with it.

>>5880774
Most hot sauce is just water, vinegar, and spices and is pretty shit. I see no reason his would be very special.

>> No.5880786

Billy Mitchell is just a clown at this point

>> No.5880804

>>5880775
Except to get that good he must have spend $100,000. It's cheaper in the long run to credit feed rather than start all over after every death. You waste more money in the long run doing that because you delay seeing the later, harder parts of the game so when you do get to them you die immediately anyway.

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>>5880804
>It's cheaper in the long run to credit feed rather than start all over after every death.
Wow, you are retarded. How about you work on your fundamentals so each credit lasts longer? Your scores will never approach Japanese levels, turbonerd.

>> No.5880860

if there's no Billy Mitchell, there's no playstation, there's no nintendo.

>> No.5881032

>>5880804
>It's cheaper in the long run to credit feed rather than start all over after every death.
Yeah, but it's not nearly as fun.

>> No.5881043

>>5879429
Who the fuck cares? E-celeb nonsense belongs in >>>/v/ or >>>/b/.

>> No.5881068

>>5881032
Then why does everyone do it?

>> No.5881070

>>5881043
He's not an E-celeb, retard.

>> No.5881084

>>5881068
What kind of reasoning is that?

>> No.5881107

>>5881084
It means you might have a weird definition of fun.

>> No.5881134

>>5881107
If you took the 1ccpill, you'd find my way is a lot more enjoyable. Rushing to the end of the game shoving in coins doesn't test your ability at the game, it's just a pointless waste of time, removing any and all challenge from the game itself. Sure, the process of gitting gud might seem like a chore to some, but when you're gud playing the game is on a whole new level of enjoyment that credit-feeders will never understand or relate to.

>> No.5881212

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI6Zf_XPFdA

>> No.5881441

>>5880331
That's the thing. I have no doubt he's perfectly capable of getting the scores he claims as he's obviously done it before. He still got caught being a lazy cunt and should just take his stupid slap on the wrist and wait the punishment out. I don't even think what he did was cheating (if still an invalid attempt) and I doubt it's really going to hurt his fucking hot sauce sales. It's not like the Kong HS hasn't constantly been trading hands over the years since the film anyway.

>> No.5881497
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5881497

Billy sets a "perfect Pac-man" score one 5+1 settings, which at that time, were NOT the TG settings for the game. The TG of that time, changed the settings from 3+1 to 5+1 and allowed Billy to self proclaim to be the Video Game Player of the Century.

Even if another player had beaten Billy to the perfect 5+1, would TG have changed the track rules for them? If they were going to change it at all, it should have been announced on the web site, so every player had an opportunity to do it. Not just Billy.

>> No.5881540

>>5879952
How to set up retroarch

>> No.5881626

He's a lolcow. He's one of those specific people that will rather get shot in the head than admit to be wrong.

>> No.5881649

>>5881497
>The TG of that time, changed the settings from 3+1 to 5+1
unbelievable. it was fucking rare to see any arcade machine that was 5+1 and they used that in a competition? what a bunch of cunts.

>> No.5881812

>>5880775
>Ask me, "wow, you're really still on your first quarter?" No. I'm on my first man.
Shouldn't that be, "YES. I'm on my first, man"?

>> No.5881816

It's been like 8 years but the last time I ate at Rickey's the waitress started talking to us about some real UFO shit. Lights in the skies. They're not coming, they're already here

>> No.5881848

>>5880489
Why?

>> No.5881849

>>5879952
Years ago we got him for a con as a guest. Mainly because he would draw in normies to give us entry fees. Had a list of demands and we did them since he was getting hundreds of ticket sales for us.

His entire panel was talking about how he was him and you could be you, but you are not him. Signed autographs and shit and that was it. He had a booth where he sat there looking artistically depressed and near senile.

Anyone was better. We have had Charles Martinet, David Hayter, AVGN, Daniel Pesina, John Parrish, etc. That were in their own league.

Even low tier nobodies like Patricia Summersett and Erica Luttrell were 10x more active and interesting to be around. (also nice bodies to look at lol)

>> No.5881871

>>5881849
I mean, it's only to be expected that someone literally autistic enough to be that good at vidya would be a little lacking on the social skills front

>> No.5882206

>>5881497
So even in the 80s Twin Galaxies was breaking their own rules to let Billy win? Unbelievable he's had them in his pocket for so long.

>> No.5882212

>>5881849
> Had a list of demands and we did them

I'm curious what kind of crazy shit he wanted. Do you remember?

>> No.5882221

>>5880175
Is there actual proof of that or what? I don't follow this stuff.

>> No.5882245

>>5882212
Seconding this, let's hear those spicy kill screen demands.

>> No.5882291

>>5882221
there's at least one visible splice in the tape

>> No.5882321 [DELETED] 

>>5881812
"I'm on my first man" meaning on the first live of the quarter. you get three lives at the beginning.

>> No.5882325

>>5881812
"I'm on my first man" meaning on the first life of the quarter. you get three lives at the beginning.

>> No.5882370

>>5882325
"I'm on my first man" meaning you've only sucked one dick so far, but you intend to suck more.

>> No.5882810

This whole cheating scandal completely changes the context of the AVGN Transformers video, the hot sauce didn't have the power after all, the ability to beat Famicom Transformers was in him all along

>> No.5882837

>>5882810
He still cheated by using the continue code, so in reality the sauce turned him into a cheater, just like its maker.

>> No.5882843

>>5882837
Oh god...Oh god, it's contagious!

>> No.5883054

>>5880721
The whole evidence package is a fucking mess. I couldn't get past the first few pages

>> No.5883242

As said before, is really sad looking at this trainwreck, the guy has legit mad skills but he shitted hard, fuking rekt his credibility doing a stupid thing he had no need to do...

>> No.5883387

>>5880270
>inherits a sports bar from his daddy
>fails to grow the business
yeah, sounds like someone I'd pay to tell me now to run a business

>> No.5883462
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5883462

I remember the Adam Sandler movie Pixels having a Billy Mitchell stand in portrayed by Peter Dinklage, who was later revealed to be a cheater. Did this come out before or after the cheating allegations were made public?

>> No.5883468

>>5883462
That movie's hella old. The cheating allegations were from last year iirc, or maybe just slightly the end of 2017.

>> No.5883471

>>5883468
So did Pixels predict this? It's so odd to have a character obviously modeled after Mitchell and then this character was portrayed as a cheater, and years later the real Billy Mitchell was revealed to be a cheater.

>> No.5883474

>>5883471
It was well known before all the twin galaxies shit. People have known for a long ass time

>> No.5884375

>>5883474
That "Walter" clown who was supposed to be the "referee" at twin galaxies used to say he was like a father to a lot of those guys, like Mitchell, at one point he used to even greenlight Billy Mitchell's scores before being given any proof because he was considered so "trusted" LOL. It was turning into a bit like American Psycho with how no matter how much clear proof was against him he still wasn't even suspected and Walter had to be practically physically forced to take his scores down.

>> No.5884392

>>5884375
Walter Day stepped down ages ago. It's now run by Jace Hall, but it still took a monumental effort to convince him to remove Billy's scores since he was such a sacred cow for TG. Same with Todd Rogers. It's pretty comical how corrupt that whole organization was and still is.

>> No.5884418

>>5884375
There was probably some weird emotional shit going on between them. Walter views them as his kids but is afraid to punish them for fear they'll dislike him and he'll lose them so he just lets them get away with murder. A lot of real parents are like that too, too scared to put their foot down.

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5884485

>>5883474
Exactly. Regular Show had an episode shitting on him in 2011.

>> No.5884535

>>5882837
my fucking sides

>> No.5884651

>>5884485
Im an idiot, I forgot that was the OP image. He tried to sue them too.

>> No.5885350

He's just playing up his villain persona, just like in the movie. He doesn't actually intend to sue, it's just for publicity. Once enough eyes are on him he'll do a live stage show and crush the record and get back into Guiness.

>> No.5885360

>>5885350
His time passed to much chili sauce.

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5885407

Dwayne Richard contacted Guinness World Records about removing Billy's "perfect" Pac-Man score

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ5XCD57MwI

>> No.5885412

>>5885407
>spell his name wrong
>fix it with a pen whose color doesn't even match

You know this is kind of an important letter, you'd think they could just retype it. It's not even that long.

>> No.5885437

Shouting and pitifully trying to intimidate others is the only thing he knows.

>> No.5885442

>>5885407
>"the hot sauce isn't even good"

OH SHIT SHOTS FIRED

>> No.5885445

>>5885412
Games in 82 weren't seen as important.

>> No.5885751

>>5880768
Hey Bill, hope everything works out ok for you

>> No.5886189

>>5882325
You retard

>> No.5886191

>>5883462
If you watched this garbage movie you are a legit fag

>> No.5886236

>>5879814
>fake or not what the hell is billy even doing?
Running a successful hot sauce company. Making more money than you.

>> No.5886243

>>5879851
>Either way it's probably more to do with his dumb hot sauce and restaurant since why would you buy HIS hot sauce over the literal 5,000 other kinds on the market if not because of him?
Except the hot sauce was successful before King of Kong, before which, as you yourself just said, most people had never heard of him. So is business is successful and he's not slapping "BILLY MITCHELL, DONKEY WORLD WORLD RECORD OWNER" on every bottle, gee, that sort of sounds like he doesn't have to milk the record, doesn't it?

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5886252

This shit just gets funnier every day.

>> No.5886353

>>5886243
Buying gamer fuel hot sauce for the novelty of it whether you've heard of the guy or not is one thing. Buying the sauce after it is widely and commonly known he is a cheat and conman is a different matter and most people would not want a sauce with a liar on the label.

>> No.5888132

ITT: Everyones favorite hairspray helmet needs more narcissistic supply.

>> No.5888215

>>5886236
Somebody tell him he can do that without cheating at video games.

He may make more money than me but I doubt he actually enjoys playing classic games as much as I do, this shit is his job, and one he cheats at, to boot.

>> No.5888229

>>5888215
Proof that he played on a MAME machine isn't proof that he cheated. He livestreamed himself getting the score on a legitimate machine shortly after the news broke, at any rate.

>> No.5888395

>Some stupid shit is happening

>> No.5888632

>>5888229
The "cheating" part is he submitted a MAME run where the rules banned emulator runs.
Stupid rule, I know, but that's the way it is.

>> No.5888638

>>5879429
He's amazing, he manages to make himself look like even more of an ass than before.

>> No.5888641

>>5879429
>"defamatory statements"
Have laws against "defamation" ever been used for anything but expressing autistic rage?

>> No.5888657

>>5886236
>successful hot sauce company

That's debatable. He's probably just a hair above breaking even. The kind of warehouse and machinery you'd need to mass produce hot sauce is not cheap to buy or maintain, let alone the staff of employees he'd need to hire to keep it running. I don't know how widespread his sauce distribution network is but I've never seen it on store shelves. What I have seen at any random Safeway is about 50 other perfectly viable hot sauces so it's a very competitive market.

>> No.5888663

Does he seriously believe that he can save his reputation by filing another retarded lawsuit?

>> No.5888668

>>5888641
Have you really so little knowledge and experience of the world? Of course defamation laws are important, there are legitimate defamation cases awarded every day of the week. You can't just slander people, if that were legal there would be chaos.

>> No.5888670

>>5888668
I haven't heard about a single defamation case that wasn't Billy Mitchell-tier autistic screeching.

>> No.5888671

>>5888668
Who is slandering him? There is definitive proof he's a cheat. It's not even up for debate.

>> No.5888674

>>5888668
>You can't just slander people, if that were legal there would be chaos.

Unless it's the president, then apparently no one gives a shit and it's open season 24/7. Trump should be blasting the fuck out of all these shit ass ""news"" sites that keep saying lies about him.

>> No.5888710

>>5888670
You're thinking of celebrity or public figure defamation where the bar is set higher since public figures have an ability to defend themselves. Nonetheless Melania Trump was reported as being a prostitute by the Daily Mail which there was no evidence for or reason to think so. She sued for defamation and settled out of court because they had no proof. You can't call someone a pedophile and rapist and killer and crooked etc. on a public platform and get away with it. Also trash any business you don't like with any lies you want. The laws are getting stricter on Fake News that alarms people and causes chaos and defamation is a subset of fake news.

>>5888671
I'm not for a minute suggesting this case has any merit lol, I don't. I am saying that defamation laws in general are valuable and needed.

>> No.5888721

A better example might be this:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohnsman/2019/09/16/elon-musks-defense-in-pedo-guy-defamation-suit-slur-meant-something-else/

>> No.5888731

Reminder that Guinness World Records is a shitshow of an organization that sells world records to corporations and governments.

>> No.5889393

>>5888710
>You can't call someone a pedophile and rapist and killer and crooked etc. on a public platform and get away with it.

Happens on Twitter every day. The accused usually gets fired from their job because of it too even though there's no proof. If it's someone like a cop or a teacher, bam, instantly fired, can't have them interacting with the public or kids if it's true, which it usually never is, but by the time that's figured out the damage is done.