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5869357 No.5869357 [Reply] [Original]

I like Breath of Fire.

>> No.5869359

4 was worst. 3 and DQ best

>> No.5869363
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5869363

I do too… mostly.

>> No.5869368

>>5869363
Dragon Quarter is a bad Breath of Fire game but a 10/10 survival horror RPG

>> No.5869389

>>5869363
Dragon Quarter is a great game, stop treating it as a BOF game and treat it as it's own separate thing.

>> No.5869423

>>5869359
3rd is the best in my eyes too because of the dragons system and it got a playable world map. The only downside of this game is that end that felt so rushed, without that it could have been a more memorable game.

I did not liked as much the 4th, yeah it might be better animated but ffs what it’s so much japanized, it just doesn’t feels right to me. Also they fucked up the dragon’s system so hard.

>> No.5869450

>>5869368
>>5869389
When I first started posting that image several years ago, replies were fans of 2 who were mad I gave their game a *slightly less* positive review than 1 & 3. Now I don't hear a peep about 2 and it's the Dragon Quarter Defense Force which comes out in a swarm every time.

>> No.5869453

>>5869423
Fishing was also better in 3, the music was better, and for the most part the whole game didn't feel padded out for time. After maybe two hours into 4 it starts to feel tedious and predictable.

>> No.5869497

>>5869450
Well if you must know thinking II is worse than I is a bad opinion and you should feel bad.

>> No.5869507

>>5869450
It's because your whole image is shit, no one in their right mind would put 4 above 3, or 1 above 2. The low rating for DQ is just the most egregious part of it.

>> No.5869523
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>>5869507
>no one in their right mind would put 4 above 3

fight me faget

>> No.5869527

>>5869507
4's the better game tho

>> No.5869536
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>>5869423
The dragon gene system in III is overrated as fuck. In BoF you only ever use your dragon form for bosses since regular enemies are always too weak to ever justify it. When boss battles do occur you'll never be encouraged to experiment with your genes, when in a boss battle you'll always just go for whatever genes you feel are strongest. Meanwhile BoFIV's combat system allows you to experiment at all times with the combo system. Even thought the dragon transformation is much simpler you have more potential to goof around with it and the dragon skills you learn later on.
>>5869453
III feels way more cliche I feel. Not to say cliche equals bad automatically but III's plot doesn't really do much for me, it's a simple but inoffensive plot. IV's plot feels like it took real risks. Aspects like Cray, a party member, considering selling you out, Fou-Lu being a well developed morally grey antihero or antagonist, and the fact that Yuna is never killed or truly punished were all really great plot points that drew me into the world much more then the average jrpg. IV's general mix of western and eastern culture made it really interesting to me, compared to most jrpgs which seem to focus on one of those concepts I feel.

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>>5869536
Every BoF game has a ridiculous amount of suffering

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>>5869543
They do, I just feel IV's suffering adds the most to its narrative. not to say III or the other's are a walk in the park but with IV scenes like Yuna sacrificing Mami to fire the canon and kill Fou Lu hit me hard. Even though I never would agree with Fou Lu I understood his motivations, he didn't just feel like some edgelord honestly.

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>>5869549
Why does Scias have a longsword in his art when he's totally a samurai?

>> No.5869568

>>5869536
I agree 3 is more cliche for sure both in themes and plot, but I just remember getting annoyed by 4 for constantly giving you an objective, then placing pointless time filling tasks back to back in your way to make completing the original objective take way too long. Also fishing spots were less common. I really like fishing.

>> No.5869609

I tried to play 4 three times and gave up bored each time. I played through 3 twice. I can't tell you why I like it better, but it's better.

>> No.5869650

>>5869536
Only 1 form in BOF4 and you summon awful 3D dragons in annoying cutscenes, sorry it’s not only simpler, it’s also not fun and not cool. Ryu felt so much empowered in BOF3.

And I admit you a thing, at the end of the game you start to face creatures that are really too much stronger compared to the whole game and fights were starting to last forever I tried to avoid battles to finally reach Fou Lu and didn’t managed to kill him every time I tried because I didn’t level up enough. I never finished the game and never saw the end because that last section of the game totally removed my will to watch it.
I’m always sad when I think about it but the last part of the game felt so boring.

>> No.5869713

>>5869650
Back to /V/ you go

>> No.5869868

>>5869368
>Dragon Quarter is a bad [Bad JRPG]
Seems about right.

>> No.5869870

>>5869507
>This is what an atrophied nostalgia brain thinks

>> No.5869878
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>>5869568
>I just remember getting annoyed by 4 for constantly giving you an objective
Which was the fix the series needed. At least having natural seeming event triggers that actually respond when you interact with them.

Also being one of the most gorgeous games of its era doesn't hurt either.

>> No.5870058

>>5869507
>>5869523
4 is way better than 3. Only nostalgia fags disagree

>> No.5870134

>>5869878
The objectives aren’t the issue, it’s that the game will toss a pointless tedious task in your way that stops you from completing the objectives.
Like the orphanage thing where you just had to get some information, but then the orphans wanted to play hide and seek, but then when you found all of them you have to go get one more orphan who went into a dungeon. It’s like that for every objective and it’s tedious.

>> No.5870246

>>5870058
BoFIII had a better setting, BoFIV is more character drama which not everyone likes
Shouting "nostalgia" doesn't invalidate anything.

>> No.5870254

>>5870058
As someone that recently played through the series as a first timer I have controversial hot opinions

2 > 3 > 4 > 1

>> No.5870386

BoF 1, 2 and 3 were all part of a single narrative. BoF 4 was the franchise's answer to Final Fantasy and the first entry in the series where none of the titles were tied together. You can directly blame BoF 4 for the travesties that were BoF 5 and 6.

As far as I'm concerned, the series ended with BoF 3.

>> No.5870390

>>5870386
BoFIII doesn't make any sense as a sequel to I because Tyr/Myria's character is completely different, and Deis/Bleu wasn't her sister in I

>> No.5870609

I miss Kattfag

>> No.5870627

>>5870390
Deis is never explicitly named as her sister until the climax of BoF 3, explaining why this powerful immortal creature that has appeared in all three games is assisting the Dragon Clan against Myria.

>> No.5870716

>>5870609
but for real tho
is it furry if you fuck her bottom half?

>> No.5870769

>>5869543
>That feeling of crushing despair

>> No.5870773

>>5869567
Because he's always drunk, so he just grabbed whatever sword was lying around when he posed for that pic.

>> No.5870780
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>>5870716
Yes. 50% is still full-blown furry.

>> No.5870809

>>5869565
[Spoiler] >not siding with fou lou for that kino as hell final boss where you get to team up with the final boss and fight your own party from the wrong side of the field too. Name another jrpg where you get to agree with the enemy, side with them in the final battle, go to their side of the field, and play the enemy against ai controlling your team. And each member of your team has different ai. The worst was ershin who no matter what refuses to attack. [/spoiler]

>> No.5870813

>>5870809
Shit how do you blacktext nowadays?

>> No.5870815

>>5870813
lowercase the S in spoiler. Also if you intend to have the entire thing covered anyway then you don't need to bother with the /spoiler tag.

>> No.5870846

>>5870815
Ah shit fuck phones i never used to have this problem. But god damn chinkmoot put weird ass virus injecting shit in the css so now a fucking app is the only way to safely browse. I mean i used to use the noscript and tampermonkey and ublock and all that but after it broke for all those anons that one time and people got infected before rhey realized it broke no way im trusting that shit again

>> No.5870914

>>5870386
5 was a great game. you need to git gud

>> No.5870929

>>5870773
what are some games with drunk samurai

>> No.5871025

>>5870134
that's called mini-games

>> No.5871064
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>>5870929

>> No.5871091

>>5869363
>Not liking Kino Quarter
Another pleb filtered

>> No.5871159

>>5871091
Another series killed prematurely for the sake of "kino."

>> No.5871405
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. . .

>> No.5871489

Why was Myria evil again

>> No.5871491
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>>5871489
I haven't played in so long, what was this scene all about?

>> No.5871510

>>5871489
She wasn't wrong, she was a based and redpilled ecofascist

>> No.5871540

>>5871489
If you played the game, you wouldn't ask dumb questions like this.

>> No.5871545

Why are JRPG fans such cunts?

>> No.5871564

>>5871489
She wasn't. The dragons had a history of fucking up the world iirc and she was pre-emptively trying to contain them from doing it again. She was just an over-protective mother exerting too much control over the people of the world, not a real villain.

>> No.5871657

>>5871564
Unless she was the same Myria as in BoFI in which case she had gone insane from previous Ryus kicking her shit in too many times

>> No.5871984

>>5871489
Not really evil. She had a going bet with her older sister on the worthiness of the Dragons and the humans.

>> No.5872209

I'm trying to play 4 on the win 7 but i do get a white screen everytime

>> No.5873272

>>5872209
That means you got the good ending

>> No.5873521

>>5871984
I got in bed with your mom

>> No.5873580

Are there any actual reasons to play bof1? I gave it a try ages and ages ago but hated how primitive it was. If it's not actually worth playing, are there at least any cool things about it? I can fully recognize now that bof2 isn't actually a good game, but I still feel like there's a ton of cool ideas and good things in it.

>> No.5874085

>>5873580
The plot's not bad, but as a game it's sort of a lame DQ clone that requires a guide to get anywhere. The neatest thing about it is that it lets party members who aren't Ryu fuse, which should have been used in later games.

>> No.5874139

>>5873580
If you do try it, I'd actually recommend the GBA version which has a buffed EXP gain rate. That or find a patch of the SNES version which does the same thing.

>> No.5874151

>>5874139
have fun at the gay bar

>> No.5874159

>>5874151
Let's start a war - start a nuclear war!

>> No.5874189

>>5873580
>Are there any actual reasons to play bof1?

Not really, since the game is mediocre at best.

>> No.5874217
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anyone know what settings to use to fix bof4 in retroarch - beetleHW?

I get these weird lines through the sprites. it just makes things look ugly

>> No.5874781

>>5871545
passion

>> No.5875084

BOF I is a grindy, generic, by-the-numbers SNES RPG. Avoid.
BOF II is improved but only up to the level of Earthbound, not the SNES's greats like FFVI or Star Ocean.
BOF III on the PSX is good but the cover art is Americanized and your guy's hairstyle looks like coiled poop for the whole game.
BOF IV is a true PSX classic, easily beating out lesser games like FF9 and Wild Arms.
BOF V on PSdouble is the zenith of the series with astounding music and kino environments. Only flaw is the small # of party members available.
BOF VI is a mobile game. Japan should be atomic bombed again. Clearly the magic radiation has worn off by now.

>> No.5876193
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>>5875084
>the cover art is Americanized

This one? I'd have preferred the Conan redraws the SNES games had.

>> No.5876195
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Imagine if DIC had made a Captain N style cartoon series about Breath Of Fire based on this artstyle. It would be fucking awesome.

>> No.5876287
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>>5876195
Seems to me we had pretty much exactly that with Conan the Adventurer

>> No.5876354
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>>5875084
No don't avoid Breath of Fire 1; it sets the stage for the series. It's nowhere near as 'grindy' as the second game, which the biggest chore to play in the series. The first game had good structure, the second was a mess.

>> No.5876358

>>5876193
That cover is solid.

>> No.5877285

>>5876354
The second was ambitious.

>> No.5877354

BoF1 actually let you switch characters during battle which is pretty nice
I find it less tedious than 2
3 and 4 are still my favourites

>> No.5877459

>>5869363
What's up with Squaresoft publishing the first one anyway?

>> No.5877731
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>>5871489
Myria's always been about controlling the world but throughout history, she's been stopped by the Dragon Clan. BoF2 reveals that the more prayers a divine being receives, the stronger it becomes. Before the first game she opposes Ladon, the Dragon God, and tried to weaken the Dragon Clan by promising wishes and causing a schism between them, forming the Light and Dark Dragon Clans. She gets stomped by proto-Ryu before BoF1 and imprisoned.

The events of BoF1 happen and the Dark Dragons manage to unleash her, but she only enjoys her freedom for about fifteen seconds before Ryu and company show up and shut her down, "killing" her for centuries.

In BoF2 she's still reforming and so her son, xxDEATH_Evan666xx forms a false religion and also opposes Ryu and company. He also gets defeated, but it lays some of the groundwork for how religion works in the universe.

In BoF3 there's a huge timeskip. Myria came back, once again attacked the Dragon Clans, only no deals with them this time, she created a magic race of Dragonslayers dedicated to genociding them, and won the war. Most of the other deities in the franchise, Ladon, Deis, Yggdrassil are defeated to the point that they have almost no followers, and enter torpor. Myria becomes the sole religion in the world.

>> No.5877736
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>>5877731
I just realized Myria's true form is half snake from the waist down like Deis / Bleu.

>> No.5878054

>>5877731
Forgot to mention that the dark and light dragon clans were reunited into one clan to fight against Myria and her brood
>>5877736
They're the same race of Endless if BoF4 is part of the same continuum

>> No.5878057

I'd totally plow a snake lady

>> No.5878092

>>5877731
Almost pre-historical setting game with proto-Ryu storyline WHEN?

>> No.5878097

>>5878092
>bof5
>sets up all the hi technology we see in myria etc towers. Deep wells on the surface go down to the subsurface hi tech world.

>> No.5878190

>>5878054
>>5878097
4,5 and 6 are not part of the trilogy canon.

>> No.5878248

>>5874217
Ewww why yuh emulating poorfag?

>> No.5878367
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So..

would Breath of Fire even exist if Thundercats didn't happen?

>> No.5878378

>>5873580
It's somewhat Metroid-esque with its character abilities connected to backtracking. Though in reality the main emotion the game will spawn in you will be frustration related to said backtracking. It's pretty dull otherwise.

>> No.5878396

>>5878367
Katfag wouldn't exist and that's a net positive.

>> No.5878789

>>5878396
But neither would Katt

>> No.5878867

>>5877736
Deis is her older sister.

>> No.5878912

>>5878789
Sounds amazing. Why do we have to live in this shitty, Katt-laden timeline?

>> No.5879041

>>5869713
At least i’ve finished BoF 2,3 and 5(which is by far the hardest). Not my fault if BoF4 did not motivate me enough to end it bro. You don’t have to act rude.

>>5870254
I won’t lie i appreciate BoF2 a lot too. This game could have been perfect if only the fusion system would have been done better. It’s probably my favorite game after BoF3 in the whole serie.
Also BoF2 has the best Nina.

>> No.5879627

>>5879041
>BoF2 has the best Nina.

Good taste

>> No.5880170

Man, 1 and 2 are super over rated. 3 and 4 are amazingly, Dragon Quarter is cool in its own way

>> No.5881184

>>5880170
>1 and 2 are super over rated

Definitely not by this board

>> No.5881225 [DELETED] 

>>5875084
I'm starting to think it's impossible for fans of Dragon Quarter to think it's impossible to describe their game without using the word "kino"

>> No.5881263

>>5876287
Conan never turned into a dragon, which would have made that show even better, but you're honestly not wrong either...

>> No.5881289

>>5876354
Wouldn't be bad if only the fucking marbles worked properly

>> No.5881359
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Curious, literally just finished BoF I on the Switch. I really liked it, I think it was a very solid RPG. I loved the characters and the fusion thing. My only complain was the later part of the game, of those 28 hours the last 9 were simply walking from point A to point B to face a boss. Some of the later quest were fucking pointless, they simply slow you down, specially because they don't even let you figure things out, they straight up tell you were you have to go.

I give it a solid 7/10, will definitely try the other games on the series. I played it on the Switch when it was released alongside the other SNES games because I remember having play it on an emulator back then but never even get to the first boss, so I gave it a go.

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>>5877731
>>5877736
>>5878054
>>5878190

>BoF4 isn't canon

Seems pretty convenient to me that a Scientist War Criminal, who formerly worked for an oppressive regime that used pain-fueled bio weapons on several enemy cities, would happen upon the means to create godlike beings and then later on there would be a godlike being trying to impose an oppressive regime onto the world at large in a different game.

It just seems funny to me that a guy who made a fake Snake Lady God would survive through the end of his game and then declare he can make as many fake Snake Lady Gods as he needs, and then in another title of the same game that there would happen to be a fake Snake Lady God.

Its almost like some sort of thing that implies something else, like as if these two things were tethered together in an incredibly subtle way.

But gee, just can't seem to put my finger on it.

>> No.5881489

>>5876193
Must have been a rush to get out of the office that day
>"We need to make you the cover for the US release of Breath of Fire III"
>loads Fireball.clipart
>"done"
>"Dude it's a a fantasy RPG"
>"JEEZ fine"
>adds sword.clipart and the text "The classic role playing game"
>"Box art's done let's get a beer already"

>> No.5881887

>>5878054
>>5878190
I call bullshit.

Can't speak for V and VI but Yuna was still trying to build gods, even after the events of BoF IV and that game establishes what happened to all the Endless becoming mortal and being able to have descendants. It seems pretty obvious that IV is a prequel to the events of the series at large.

Given what Nina's sister ended up as and that pic of Myria there, I'd say Yuna succeeded in ruining shit for everyone, yet again.

Fucking asshole.

>> No.5882802

>>5881474
deepest lore

how is the manga btw

>> No.5882951

And Breath of Fire likes you too

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>>5882802
It butchers Ryu's glorious full frontal

>> No.5883674

>>5877459
Capcom's USA team had no interest in translating and publishing an RPG, so they tapped Squaresoft of America to do the heavy lifting.

>> No.5883679

>>5883674
Makes sense. What made Capcom change their mind for 2?

>> No.5883695

>>5871489
The Japanese manual for the first game had a massive lore dump in it.
There was a translation for it on Dragontear . net, but that place is gone for good, so I guess it's all just lost forever?

>> No.5883702

>>5873580
It's mechanically more solid than BoF2, with less completely useless options in combat. Having spells always do set amounts of damage opens up the tactical landscape in a weird way, having consumables that give guaranteed critical gives you options in resource management that aren't straight forward, and having items that cast spells gives everyone something to do in every combat, instead of relegating characters to complete pointlessness because they need to conserve MP or the enemy is strong against physical attacks.

It also gives you a good feel for the villains, which is something they obviously cribbed from Square, despite the very strong DQ feel for the overall design of the game. Plus, Inafune did the initial character designs, so the art can be really charming and nostalgic even if you never played it before.

>> No.5883708

>>5883679
The moderate success of BoF in the west, coupled with pressure from the Japanese HQ to not hand money to a competitor, I think.

>> No.5883976

>>5871510
Yes. You see what happens in BoF5 when the're no ecofash mommy to guide the people.

>> No.5884264

>>5881474
>>5881887
But that makes Myria being Deis/Bleu's sister a plot hole. Just accept that all the games are standalone, bro.

>> No.5884278

>>5870846
Based schizo poster

>> No.5884290

>>5875084
Boiling down a game based on its cover art and characters hair design. Huh I'm thinking this is austistic

>> No.5884994

>>5883702
Not that anon but the bit about 1 being more mechanically solid than 2 is why I've put off trying 2 for so long. Is it worth it? I've heard the story is surprisingly good with the new translation that actually let's you understand what's going on but everything about the gameplay sounds like a chore. I'm a story guy so if it's not too bad I could probably deal with it, but even I have limits when putting up with something that's just not very fun.

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>>5883702
>Plus, Inafune did the initial character designs

he sure did

>> No.5885020

>>5885018
SOUL

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For me, it's BoF1 Nina

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>>5885030

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>>5885032

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>>5885030
2 > 1 > 4 > 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dragon Quarter

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>>5885036

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>>5885041
>keep moving descendants, clones and derivatives
>this is Original Nina's neighborhood

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>>5885051
I can play that game if you really want.

>> No.5885154

>>5885043
>swings a rapier like an axe
>race mixes and causes her tribe to lose the power to fly

Dumbest Nina

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>>5885154
Let's not be so quick to chatise her, pretty sure they all wanted the Dragon
Nina the 1st is the only one confirmed to get it though.

Though I vaguely recall the 4th preferred hers barbed.

>> No.5885331

>>5869368
Where's the horror?

>> No.5885365

>>5885309
That was a bad translation, in Japanese Nina loves Cray as a brother.

>> No.5885394

>>5885365
Considering how much incest hentai Japan cranks out, "loving as a brother" can still mean getting the barbed D.

>> No.5886130

>>5885041
>4 > 2 > 3 > DQ > 1

>> No.5886172

>>5869357
>>5869363

is this an RPG? Can i start on 3 or do I have to know about 1-2

>> No.5886180

>>5886172
3 and 4 are the essentials, 1 and 2 are if you become a diehard fan

>> No.5886223

>>5886130
How can you prefer Dragon Quarter's emaciated, scurvy-riddled, flea-infested twig over any one of those other healthy girls?

>> No.5886274

>>5885041
Trash taste.
DQ > 3 > 4 > 2 > 1
Burn = 6

>> No.5886291

>>5886180

ok but do i need 1 and 2 story

>> No.5886337

>>5886274
see >>5886223

>> No.5886667

This thread has been making want to replay either 3 or 4. Which one? I like 4 more, but it's been longer since I've last played 3.

>> No.5886745

>>5886291
No (thank god)

>> No.5887453

>>5884264
So Yuna got his hands on Deis or based Myria off of her as a twisted mockery of the one deity who keeps sticking around, more or less compared to the other Endless.

>> No.5887464
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5887464

That guy looks kinda familiar...

>> No.5887487

>>5887453
Why is myria a fuckin AI in bof3?

>> No.5887489

>>5887487
Wait what?

>> No.5887503

>>5887489
It's a big techno palace holding back the desert in bof3 yeah? She looked like a holographic projection thing as I recall

>> No.5887876

>>5887487
She was always some sort of "lost technology" "sufficiently advanced" weapon. That's incredibly obvious from BoF1, where there were multiple dungeons/locations associated with some sort of advanced, lost super magi-tech race.

>> No.5887903

>>5887876
But deis and dragonsoul people seem to be genuinely magical as fuck up to nearly godly. Ryuu, fou lunch, the dragons in bof4 dont seem to be sufficiently advanced tech. They just plain ol magic.

In 1 2 3 it seems clear it's at least partially sufficiently advanced tech. 5 seems the most genuinely advances tech, and even they are recovering from an apocalypse, so they might have been higher before and created myria ai to restore the surface and then forgot about it or myria never gave them the all clear because humans would just ruin the surface again

>> No.5887990
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>>5884264
>Myria/Deis sister plothole
>Games are standalone

The referenced sisterhood could simply be a cute way of calling each other partial/damaged Gods, and your second statement is incorrect because of a certain mural in BoF3 depicting BoF1.

The problem with Yuna's survival, and his god creating science, is that it serves as a possible explanation for absolutely everything in the games and it becomes almost too convenient. Why wonder about the nature of the setting when Yuna and his fucking Circus Magic created the technological marvel above the great desert where Myria resides, why wonder about the nature of man and demon when Yuna's wizard surgery can make you into a were-tiger or a dragon man, why wonder about Myria's divinity and her praying to God when the Yorae Dragon's great great great great great great grandson just slapped her shit with Super Dragon Saiyan Spirit Strikes? It then just erases all the possible mystery from the series while also being a bit of a boring dead end since we don't really understand anything about Yuna's motivations aside from being a wily mad scientist type.

The lack of the player's knowledge about Yuna's agency is the real problem about the Myria theory- there's no real way to know how far he actually succeeded in his lifetime, what he was even ever going to accomplish with a God and what he could even do if he bothered to make one. Elina is fucking bedridden and the other two gods that came his way he didn't even bother to ask them for anything. The hell would he ever get out of Myria? There's also no reason to not just assume that Yuna went on to create one of the artificial dragons from Dragon Quarter. The Endless were Dragons, why wouldn't a pseudo-endless be anything besides a Dragon? Even if it is a metaphor for nuclear war.

tl;dr Yuna creating Myria makes sense but its also pretty dumb

>> No.5888259

>>5887990
The weretiger really is a plot hole though, they just straight up forgot to finish the arc.

>> No.5889151
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5889151

If Breath of Fire IV is a prequel, who's the talking dragon statue nigga

>> No.5889178

>>5885041
BoF2 Nina is perfection
>classy Jet Black Wings
>that dress
>them legs

>> No.5889258
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>>5888259
There's a lot of Myria fuckery making demons and dragon-dudes and a lot of super science fuckery making mutants and giant brain dudes so its hard to parse out who has a natural transformation and who is just some sort of Frankenstein zombie/demon.

>>5889151
Ladon, the revered talking dragon statue nigga, is thought to be BoF4's Ryu after living out his mortal life and possibly creating the Brood by fucking Nina erry day. It could also be a redeemed Fou-lu who shed his old identity after Ryu ousted him and all Endless from the world.
There's really no proof or connection aside from 4Ryu already being a dragon god but if you think 4 is a prequel then its another one of those things that just makes sense.

I remember wondering if the Mud Sea was supposed to indicate a post-Myria world where the desert spread into the sea or if it was meant to be a primordial world where the sea hadn't settled just yet. It doesn't help that a lot of Fantasy settings seem to have vague stories of their shit-world being terraformed by some godlike being at some point.

So not sure what to think of 4 as a prequel/sequel. Especially when its main theme is endings and beginnings- maybe its just the end and begin of the next Myria cycle, maybe not

>>5889178
Nina 2 is just for you

>> No.5889746
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>>5889178
>>5889258
has it really gotten to the point where we have to explicitly state that girls not wearing pants is the best

>> No.5889779

>>5889746
Have you seen how gay everything has gotten?
You're lucky people aren't posting Cray Bulge

>> No.5891849

>>5889779
Don't that beat all...

>> No.5891901

>>5870813
ctrl+s

>> No.5892675

Is that bad to think that non of BoF games are really connected together? They are just taking some elements from previous games to put them in the next, that’s all.
It’s like fou-lu it’s the idea of a rival of the hero, a guy who have the same powers and that idea come from teepo from bof3 but the difference is that teepo wasn’t exploited and only appears at the very end.
Sometimes you have also some Easter eggs like a previous hero as an npc character in the next game but it’s never more.

>> No.5892689

>>5892675
Yeah I never saw a connection either, bro. I view them as Final Fantasy games - there's reoccurring elements but none of them are actual sequels to each other.

>> No.5892715

Nina IV a qt

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>>5892675
>>5892689

You can argue this for 4 & 5 but I don't see how you'd argue it for 1, 2 & 3 when they clearly reference each other directly in the main story.

Is generic Doom Demon at the end of 2 some other evil goddess Myria's son?
Is BoF3 Myria, who has a mural of her fighting the BoF1 cast, just some other Myria that tormented some other civilization as an evil goddess?

>> No.5892805

>>5892737
BoF1 Nina is in BoF2

>> No.5893764

Never fails, every BoF thread, the BoF4fags sit there insisting that 4 and 5 are part of the original trilogy even though it's been debunked a million times before.

>> No.5893779

>>5893764
>Debunked a million timrs
go on. Elaborate how they're not connected at all.

You can't you filthy liar

>> No.5893928

>>5893764
Timeline autism is the worst autism, go to a Zelda thread if you want to peddle that shit.

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>>5893764
>>5893928
>Simple point A to point B causality is too complicated!

One of you can be 'Brainlet of Fire 3' and the other can be Chromosome Quarter

>> No.5894003

>>5871405
>Intentionally pull the wrong lever

>> No.5894008
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5894008

>>5869357
You like Breath of fire? Not that there is anything wrong with that

>> No.5894287
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb6PIjrC1ek

>> No.5894340
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5894340

Momo was the first time I really felt the pangs of what I would know as a "the waifu".
>>5887464
Bluray fucking WHEN

>> No.5894718

>>5893779
>prove a negative!
Usually the burden of proof is on the person asserting that there is a connection, but sure, I'll play.

The idea of the connection is that BoF4 takes place BEFORE BoF1. Deis and Ryu continuing to exist and Yuna later summoning Ladon, Myria, Yggdrassil and all the other Endless / Gods.

This doesn't work for multiple reasons. The first of which is that Ryu doesn't exist as a god in any of the first three games. Even if you extrapolate that Ryu becomes Ladon, there's still no explanation for how the Dragon clan came into being. Or how Myria and Deis could be sisters. Even if they suddenly just decide that all Endless are siblings, something not supported by BoF 4, none of the other BoF deities refer to each other as siblings.

Next, Nina from BoF4 can't fly or turn into a bird. In the BoF series, the Wing Clan first lose their ability to turn into birds, then the ability to fly, and finally even glide. The Wing Clan in BoF4 has flight ability commensurate with the Wing Clan between 2 and 3.

Of course, the whole BoF4 prequel theory only works with Yuna. And the developers have outright said that he was supposed to die, but it was cut for time constraints. Clearly, it was never their intent that he be part of the story further.

>> No.5894842

>>5894718
I'm searching for that interview but I can't seem to find it.

I thought I heard, once upon a time, that the guy who stated it wasn't actually one of the story directors and therefore was just trying to appease fans who dislike Yuna. But I've never seen this interview

>> No.5894846

>>5894340
Your waifu has clown feet.

>> No.5894850

>>5894003
lmao

>> No.5894863

>>5869450
it was me the fan of 2 who was mad and i still am

>> No.5894870

>>5894850
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnIy7PeQsIc&t=32m25s

>> No.5894885
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>>5889151
these pics are some of the very first pics i saved from the internet in the early 2000s

>> No.5894901
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5894901

DQ is really a love it or hate it type of game. I personally loved the hell out of it though, despite being so different from previous games.

>> No.5894959

>>5894718
Deis already knows about bof 1-3. She's aware 4 is a different world, that's why she's not snakey.

>> No.5895190

>>5894885
I've never seen this kind of artwork for BoF II. Do you have more?

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>>5894846
They're much smaller in the final.

>> No.5895328

>>5895190
there wasn't a lot of them and no, i don't have the other ones anymore. the one i posted is probably the best and most famous of these old pics

>>5894901
is manilo/gobi even in it?

>> No.5896191

>>5895328
No, it really shouldn't have been marketed as a BoF game. Change the MC's and girl's names from Ryu and Nina and no one would know it was supposed to be one.

>> No.5896637
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>>5894718
I have never seen such a "Where's Waldo" smorgasbord of incorrect assertions.

You don't understand burden of proof, at all.
You stated the incorrect Theory.
You don't even address the incorrect theory that you asserted with any lore arguments.
You ramble on lore inconsistencies yet the Theory is that the available setting from 4 transforms into 1.

All of your stated Lore reasons are easy to create an explanation for:
>Ryu 4 remains in the mortal world and probably starts a family which results in the Brood existing.
>The Brood then could schism into Light & Dark Clans
>Ryu 4, as an ex-God, calcifies into a dragon statue and becomes Ladon, The only talking spiritual totem in the series.
>Lack of Gods allows Wind Clan to tap into Bird Form? Somehow???
>Deis is a coy slut goddess and calls the only other being in the setting that is like her a "Sister".
>Deis eventually gets a body but the bottom half becomes draconic/snake-like in line with all the other Gods turning into draconic beings

The only thing that you assert that might back up your assertion that they can't possibly be connected is that some guy in an interview said "oh, whoops!". An interview that you can't provide, can't provide the name of the person interviewed or even a direct quote- just that it totally happened and therefore stop thinking, stop finding connections, don't find any wonder or mystery - just stop.

Were you molested while playing BoF4? I feel like your entire line of reasoning comes from some emotional knee-jerk reaction where you have some baggage about anything touching your precious trilogy the same way your uncle touched your precious trilogy.

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>>5893965
>>5894340
>>5895208
she's supposed to be some kind of rabbit person, right?

>> No.5897449

>>5897346
She's a grassrunner, they're dog people, also fox people like Ursula and Yuna.

>> No.5897460

>>5869357
I like taking a huge shit in your moms mouth.

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>>5897449
interdastig

>> No.5897596
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5897596

unbridled furfaggotry

>> No.5898148

>>5897596
I figured most furfaggotry would be bridled. Aren't they into that kind of thing?

>>5897346
>>5897502
Wasn't Momo's Dad and Yuna a mad scientist?
Wtf is wrong with grass runners

>> No.5898157

>>5898148
Grassrunners have high INT and use ranged weapons, Woren have high STR. Until DQ, but Lin's just a cosplayer.

>> No.5898160

>>5898157
She probably just dyed her tail a different color to pretend to be a tough Worren

>> No.5898294

>>5897502
>>5898148

Myria Station explains all this.

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>>5898294
What?
Is there a place in Myria Station that runs WW2 footage of Grassrunner Germany and they all do Nazi Salutes to their genetically superior mad scientist megabrain?

>> No.5898421

>>5898391
No, but it does show that the people or whatever that was up on it where fucking around with DNA on obscene levels.

>> No.5898438
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>>5898421
GRASLÄUFER WIR SIND DIE SUPERIOR-RASSE.
WIR MÜSSEN DEN SAVAGE WARREN LÖSCHEN UND DEN MANILLO ENTFERNEN.

>> No.5898442

>>5898438
That image would be more impressive if I didn't know her hitrate was less than 50%

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>>5898442
Funny, the germans also had a gun with less than a 50% hit rate

>> No.5898504

>>5898438
The tiger cares nothing the plans of the rabbit

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>>5898504
*nervous lettuce chewing noises*

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>>5897596
>240x160
>text box nearly half a screen tall

always easy to pick out the GBA shots, points for patching the color fix

>> No.5898610

Damnit, this thread has me really wanting to replay Breath of Fire III now, which I haven't played in 20 years, but Dragon Quest X is coming out on Friday.

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>>5869357
Important question as I'm playing through Breath of Fire 1, which is the better version for Breath of Fire 2? On the SNES? or the GBA?

>> No.5898951
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>>5898662
SNES version + the Retranslation patch.

vanilla SNES and GBA have the same translation and it's not very good. At best, it's readable. At worst, it makes confusing statements and drops all kinds of detail from the narrative.

>> No.5899116
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5899116

Would you a dark dragon?

>> No.5899197

>>5898662
Well what sounds better to you?
Full aspect ratio and sound quality but a killer grind?
Or a doubled EXP rate, but a cropped screen and shitty sound?

>> No.5899332
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5899332

>>5899116
For me, it's Myrmidon. Really wish you got to transform into this nigga instead of just summoning him for a few seconds.

>> No.5899442

>>5896637
I have never seen a "Autistic Andy has a public meltdown at the Park" smorgasbord of screeching non-points like this.

You don't understand burden of proof, at all. Here, let me educate you. Burden of proof means "the obligation to prove one's assertion." You made a claim that's contradicted by the general consensus. It's your burden to prove that claim. You WANTING it to be true is not evidence. You dropping to ad hominem when challenged is not evidence. Understand? No? Didn't think so.

>Ryu 4 remains in the mortal world and probably starts a family which results in the Brood existing.
So, in your theory, Myria, Deis and Ryu are Endless. Only Ryu can breed, apparently, which stops his children from being Endless because they become the Brood. Except this is contradicted by canon lore. Myria had a child and it was an immortal god too. Please actually play the games next time.
>The only talking spiritual totem in the series.
Incorrect, there's also Yggdrassil.
>Lack of Gods allows Wind Clan to tap into Bird Form? Somehow???
Again, PLEASE PLAY THE GAMES. A theme through the trilogy is that the Wing Clan is losing their powers. Originally they could all turn into enormous birds, and could fly with their natural wings. They begin to lose those powers when the clan started intermingling in BoF1 (as addressed in-game in BoF2 if you'd ever actually play them), first the shapeshift, then flight, then even gliding. By BoF3, most don't even have wings at all. BoF4 Nina is approximately at a stage between BoF2 and 3. How? How is she weaker than BoF1 Nina when the Wing Clan hadn't intermingled yet? There wasn't even a Brood for her to have mated with.
>Deis is a coy slut goddess and calls the only other being in the setting that is like her a "Sister".
Except by your logic, the Brood are brothers and sisters, since they're all Endless. Same with Ladon, Yggdrassil, and YET. Only Deis and Myria are half-serpent women.
[Finale Incoming]

>> No.5899445

>>5899442
[Continued]
>Deis eventually gets a body but the bottom half becomes draconic/snake-like in line with all the other Gods turning into draconic beings
Yeah, nice try. Only Myria and Deis in the entire game share the same form, and they refer to each other as sisters. At no point in any part of the trilogy do they acknowledge a kinship with any other God or the Brood or Ryu.

>The only thing that you assert that might back up your assertion that they can't possibly be connected is that some guy in an interview said "oh, whoops!". An interview that you can't provide, can't provide the name of the person interviewed or even a direct quote- just that it totally happened and therefore stop thinking, stop finding connections, don't find any wonder or mystery - just stop.
Except it's referenced everywhere online and has been for the past twenty years. I know, little zoom-zoom, you can't conceive of a world without internet, but not everything in the late 90's / early 00's, ESPECIALLY in other countries was posted everywhere for everyone to reference. Now, again, burden of proof. If you think all the wikis, gaming sites, and forums are wrong and that YOU ALONE hold the shining truth on the matter, feel free to disprove it. We're all waiting.

All you have so far is a broken thesis that contradicts lore and proves you never actually played the original trilogy.

>Were you molested while playing BoF4?
I was molested by retarded BoF4 players. You lot a worse than Kattfag and bring the series to Sonic levels. It can't just be a good standalone game. You have this autistic need that it be included with the original trilogy, despite the fact it clearly isn't. It's okay that 5 and 6 weren't, but NOT FOUR, NEVER FOUR!!!

>> No.5899589

Just started I, how much grind is needed? I try to base leveling on how much dungeon mobs do, but at least with frog boss it seemed that without herbs to help out I was slightly underleveled.

Seems relatively decent so far even though I just started, menu shows age though.

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>>5899589
Really only at the very beginning do you need to grind a level or two just to survive random encounters (especially when Bulla come in pairs) but very quickly it'll taper off to manageable.

After you wreck the shit out of that earthquake town you'll get the E.Key which you can use as an item in battle to waste mobs quickly since it deals 30 HP damage to all every time. You'll be relying on that for quite a while, especially as Nina.

>> No.5900281

>>5899749
Interesting, I'll grind a tiny bit then play it by ears based on how that item you described fares me. Cheers!

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>>5899442
>"Autistic Andy has a public meltdown at the Park"

I've got to know if this was a reference to something

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Apparently we were this close from having a little Odjn pet riding on our shoulder throughout the game

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I wonder if the villains in 5 were actually intended to be the player characters at first.
I mean they have a full party of different species

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>>5899332
I suppose the combo system in 4 was more important to them than the dragon system. They probably didn't want the massive size of a dragon form to prevent it from being able to combo with the party.

The dragon system itself was pretty wanting and not very inventive when compared with 3. I would have liked to see something a bit more involved, possibly having Ryu enter a Draconic State, the same way he already does, and then somehow moving towards the final form. Maybe by casting that element of magic or performing a combo with it.

For me though: I really like these snake forms. Looks comfy to live in, probably looks cute drinking out a cup.

>> No.5901453

>>5894870
I forgot how much I love 3 I used to do yearly runs of it probably do one soon cause of this thread.
4 fags can get bent. 3 is the superior game.
4 fags are just graphic whores. thats literally the only thing that game has going for it. the ending is such a fucking mess and wasting my time to get there angered me so much I'll never touch that game in my life. on the other hand 3 has great moments great gameplay and an epic ending. just wish my boy teepo got more screen time.

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>>5901453
>just wish my boy teepo got more screen time.

He does. In BoF4

>> No.5901713
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5901713

Best Nina

>> No.5901746

>>5901713
Way better than Threena