RECLAIM THE LORDS HOLY LAND FROM THY FOUL DEMONS

[Anonymous No.5867539]

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>5861667

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom, Quake, Duke, Marathon, or Thief:
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=17fEEr969NzxgqPBVl0M0stXZxTjegRbZ


Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4

Launchers for Build Engine games
http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
https://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

[Anonymous No.5867543]

=== ONGOING ===

/vr/ Heretic Mapping Project
-Currently looking for mappers, testers, and anyone else who can help.
-Project Discord server: https://discord.gg/BBPnHM8

H.U.H. - /vr/ Quake Mapping Project
-Current release, final unless bugs are spotted
-https://mega.nz/#!znJVlAiJ!CfsIcjb1Z_hDcesCaUKOkCcRJlgUhLmf49T6RVYCbUU

=== NEWS ===

[9-5] Could You Would You in a Box released
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yh5xig7vrvobnqh/Could%20You%20Would%20You%20In%20A%20Box.zip?dl=1

[9-3] Doom4 Vanilla updated to 1.1, MS-DOS version released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/108725-doom-4-vanilla-new-v11-ms-dos-edition/

[9-1] Colorful Hell update
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&p=1117225#p1117225

[9-1] Doom 4 Vanilla released.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/108725-doom-4-vanilla-dehacked-project/

[9-1] OTEX, a resource of textures and flats released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103426-otex-texture-set-%E2%80%93-update-version-10-released/

[9-1] Fraggle's 'Miniwad' released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/108721-miniwadwad-a-minimalist-iwad

[8-29] Joe Rogan interviews John Carmack
https://youtu.be/udlMSe5-zP8

[8-27] Anon releases his unfinished project, free for cannibalizing
https://gofile.io/?c=7iv0Zp

[8-26] Ion Fury devs claim upcoming patch is not censoring content
https://steamcommunity.com/games/562860/announcements/detail/1616150570017627014

[8-25] Final Doomer 3.1 releases with Hellbound, Alien Vendetta, and Whitemare-themed weapon sets
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=55061

[8-23] Paradise v2 final version out
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/106058-paradise-v2-final-version-8222019/

[8-23] Doom Mobile RPG page taken down, reuploaded to Mega
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4

=== PREVIOUS ===

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== PROTIP ==

To submit news, please reply and anchor it to this post.

[Anonymous No.5867546]

doom 64 feels like i'm playing a creepypasta version of doom

[Anonymous No.5867551]

cant wait for sicko mode season doom 64 in november

[Anonymous No.5867583]

Tips on beating the final boss in Ion Fury? That shit seems nearly impossible.

[Anonymous No.5867585]

>>5867583
Drop bombs, kill everything, repeat. Stay away from the laser spinner.

[Anonymous No.5867589]

>>5867583
Prioritize the everything but the boss, hitscanners will fuck you like no other, don't be afraid to rely on RNGesus.

[Anonymous No.5867595]

>>5867546
why so?

[Anonymous No.5867596]

>>5867583
Do it for Shelly

[Anonymous No.5867610]

>>5867595
enemy models and environments are familiar but "not quite right", sound design is especially disturbing and the soundtrack is constantly suspenseful with no breaks

[Anonymous No.5867643]

I just played Daytime Drama, an I don’t understand what just happened.

[Anonymous No.5867687]

Doom is christian

[Anonymous No.5867694]

If anybody's itching for Shadow Warrior, I must recommend the usermap "City Life". The opening garage segment goes on a bit long but it opens up to a really cool city level. Even has a mad car speeding around to keep you on your toes.

[Anonymous No.5867709]

>>5867694
No

[Anonymous No.5867713]

>>5867687
he gun' forgive da shit out 'o dem demons

[Anonymous No.5867716]

>>5867709
well fuck you too

[Anonymous No.5867718]

Quick, load up a wad in Freedoom and post the results!

[Anonymous No.5867720]

>>5867718
For comparison

[Anonymous No.5867735]

>>5867713
Hallelujah

[Anonymous No.5867737]

>/vr/ Heretic mapping project

Well this won't work. I bet it's 1000x harder to make a map than Trenchbroom.

[Anonymous No.5867762]

>>5867737
It's just Doom mapping, my dude.

[Anonymous No.5867781]

>>5867737
Hm, for me Doom engine mapping is much easier than any 3D mapping. And this is supported by the fact that there's way more Doom mods than Quake mods.

[Anonymous No.5867782]

>>5867762
And is that easier or harder than Quake?

[Anonymous No.5867785]

>>5867782
a million times easier.

[Anonymous No.5867790]

>>5867583
DDoS Resetera.
Shouldn't be too hard

[Anonymous No.5867801]

what are the best lighting/aesthetic mods for doom?

[Anonymous No.5867802]

You can do fun stuff with the reload cancel exploit in Ion Fury.

[Anonymous No.5867803]

>>5867709

[Anonymous No.5867807]

Check out this pic taken of John Romero killing me. You can see the blood red death screen shining on my dumb face

[Anonymous No.5867828]

>>5867807
I don't think Romero needs more of an inflated ego

[Anonymous No.5867864]

do I prefer red hair Joanna Dark or brunette Joanna Dark?

[Anonymous No.5867876]

>>5867864
Neither, you prefer me. Now kiss me.

[Anonymous No.5867889]

I JUST WANT TO SAY

I LIKE DOOM 2!

[Anonymous No.5867901]

>>5867889
I just wish it had episodes.

[Anonymous No.5867930]

>>5867546
its fucking scary

[Anonymous No.5867932]

>>5867930
dont stick your dick in scary

[Anonymous No.5867947]

I CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY DOOM 64 AFTER I FINISH DOOM 2

[Anonymous No.5867987]

>>5867947
Me too but I have Sigil to do first and it's kinda bullshit

[Anonymous No.5867992]

>>5867737
this guy can't be serious

[Anonymous No.5868009]

I only just now found out that Unreal and Unreal Tournament aren't the same game.

[Anonymous No.5868017]

>>5868009
We've been talking about them for quite some time, anon
>>5866026
>>5866024
>>5867109

You should play both.

It's sad however that there never was a seqquel to OG Unreal.

[Anonymous No.5868028]

>>5868009
Are you too young? It's quite sad everybody forgot about Unreal 1. It was amazing. Great levels and it kinda shared the light with HL.

Music is great and with the minimalist story makes the game flow really well. Quite an impressive game in its day and I think even today.

[Anonymous No.5868048]

The basic aliens in Duke 3D will never not be satisfying to shoot. Their death sounds are so simple but just perfect.

[Anonymous No.5868067]

>>5868048
That's how I feel about every enemy in Doom

[Anonymous No.5868068]

>>5868017
Is it really worth playing today? Unreal 1 I mean, because what's the point of playing UT solo? I'm sure some people still play it online but I would just get destroyed.

>>5868028
No I'm a fresh boomer. It's just that I never had any interests in multiplayer FPS and thought Unreal was just a multiplayer exclusive series unlike Quake and Doom who feature SP mainly (fuck Q3 and QC)

[Anonymous No.5868073]

>>5867737
Basic Doom engine mapping is EZ/PZ, my dude.

[Anonymous No.5868075]

>>5868068
>Is it really worth playing today?


Genuine yes. Forget about UT. Unreal 1 was clearly a demo for the engine, but has really great levels weapons, and like I said last thread its sort of a midi opera fps, the music really pulls you along.

Now wonder some people like it much more over HL. It's a very heavy metal amgazine short story feel, with multiple fantasy sci fi elements throw in just because.

[Anonymous No.5868079]

>>5868068
>>5868075
Unreal 1 is an atmospheric journey across an alien world, with unique mix of medieval, arcane and alien-high-tech environments.
It is absultely fantastic in the first half, but the latter third runs out of steam if you play whole game at once.

I suggest playing it in bursts 3-4 levels at a time.

[Anonymous No.5868083]

>>5867709
NGR (You)

[Anonymous No.5868085]

Why is the gap between difficulty levels so drastic in Blood? I feel the game is a cakewalk in Lightly Broiled yet I cannot hope to finish a level without savescumming like a madman while playing in Well Done

[Anonymous No.5868108]

>>5867901
But it does have episodes. They just never bothered with a menu for them.

[Anonymous No.5868124]

>>5867807
Does he still trashtalk like in the old days?

[Anonymous No.5868138]

>>5868085
Because it was made by brilliant imbeciles.
Monolith.

[Anonymous No.5868139]

>>5868085
Play with custom difficulty on one of the ports. Monster numbers of Extra Crispy with more reasonable health and reaction times.

[Anonymous No.5868165]

>>5866408
>Is there a way to make Doom automap to fill the "occupied space" with a single color like Marathon does it?
Late, but zdoom's can fill it with floor textures like build games.

[Anonymous No.5868195]

>>5868165
I know that. However I want it to fill it with solid color instead of texture

[Anonymous No.5868197]

>>5868124
He was pretty nice. But when he would dominate people he would start giggling and then the crowd would laugh.

[Anonymous No.5868214]

>>5868139
Extra Crispy wasn't balanced for single player at all, I would not use those monster numbers even with different scaling otherwise.

[Anonymous No.5868271]

Is there any chance they still have the Doom64 source code and could make an official PC release?

[Anonymous No.5868278]

>Blood 2 was made entirely in 11 months and that includes the planning portion
>at the same time the team was split between that and Shogo
What a shitshow

[Anonymous No.5868283]

>>5868271
It's coming to PC in an official release, but it's going to be the same as the shitch footage we saw. No idea if that uses the source code or not, but I assume it does.

[Anonymous No.5868286]

>>5868283
https://gematsu.com/2019/08/doom-64-rated-in-australia

[Anonymous No.5868292]

>>5868283
Nightdive is handling it, so it will just be a retail version of Doom 64 EX.

[Anonymous No.5868297]

>>5867807
>>5868124
>>5868197
I'm curious - how come he "has still got it" for Doom Deathmatch, but whenever he's recorded playing Doom singleplayer he seems rather sluggish?

The time he played E4M2 comes to mind, the one that Civvie showed in his video. Where he says "Not even real! Seriously? What is happening!" at the Barons of Hell part near the plasma rifle.

[Anonymous No.5868301]

>>5868297
Maybe because he only plays single player maps.

[Anonymous No.5868305]

>>5868301
???
So?

Why would he play sluggishly in old-man mode in singleplayer, and then turn into some beast in multiplayer?

[Anonymous No.5868309]

>>5868305
Nobody else plays those, so he has an edge there.

[Anonymous No.5868314]

>>5868214
>Extra Crispy wasn't balanced for single player at all
What?

[Anonymous No.5868317]

>>5868314
Extra Crispy is the difficulty meant for co-op. Well Done is the hardest difficulty meant for single player.

[Anonymous No.5868350]

>>5868314
Highest difficulty was balanced under the assumption that you're playing it in co-op multiplayer, they set that difficulty up under the expectation that you would only be able to play it with help.

[Anonymous No.5868357]

>>5868314
Read The Fucking Manual

[Anonymous No.5868359]

>>5868357
What does Extra Crispy do to the difficulty exactly?
t. platelet

[Anonymous No.5868363]

Does the Extra Crispy mod make Blood II: The Chosen good?

[Anonymous No.5868390]

>>5867801
I combined Lights subdued and dark doom lite

[Anonymous No.5868391]

>>5867828
> t. ion storm investor

[Anonymous No.5868394]

>>5867876
based cacochad

[Anonymous No.5868416]

>>5868359
More enemies, more aggressive enemies, instant reaction time for hitscanners.

[Anonymous No.5868423]

so Im planning to make a shopkeeper in LTG at some point whom will exchange goods and maybe services for stuff like the fibers and such to let player get stuff like weapons in map packs that are very stingy about giving SSG slot guns for exsample

I dunno if I managed to give her a good enough "ara ara" feel tho

[Anonymous No.5868425]

>>5868423
what is ltg

[Anonymous No.5868430]

>>5868425
La Tailor Girl

[Anonymous No.5868435]

>>5868423
She’s got a good Ara Ara vibe.

[Anonymous No.5868438]

>>5868423
what kind of services

[Anonymous No.5868440]

>>5868438
she'll suck your penis if you know what I mean.

[Anonymous No.5868441]

>>5868440
but the protag is a girl

[Anonymous No.5868446]

>>5868441
You mean girls don't have penises?

[Anonymous No.5868447]

>>5868441
>implying some girls don't have penises
wow racist and sexist much?

[Anonymous No.5868450]

>>5868446
>>5868447
this isnt hedon dummies

[Anonymous No.5868452]

>>5868423
I want to cuddle her and lay my head on her soft pillows

[Anonymous No.5868457]

why are quakefags so elitist and autistic?
>>>/v/477199478

[Anonymous No.5868463]

>>5868457
but he's right. For the record I like HL and probably would enjoy still enjoy CE.

[Anonymous No.5868475]

>>5868423
STONKING
GREAT
TITS

[Anonymous No.5868479]

>>5868463
hl has fast movement.
nice try alf.

[Anonymous No.5868483]

>>5868479
It does, but he still listed it as a game that turned classic style FPS out of favor (which is true).

[Anonymous No.5868502]

>>5868483
why are you replying to alf

[Anonymous No.5868503]

quakecucks deflecting again.

[Anonymous No.5868523]

>>5868503
ALF pls.
Go back to bash on HL.

[Anonymous No.5868535]

[Anonymous No.5868540]

>>5868457
>>5868463
>>5868479
>>5868483
>>5868502
>>5868503
>>5868523
FUCK OFF AND DIE

[Anonymous No.5868548]

>>5868502
I don't know who alf is, I only started coming here like a week or 3 ago

[Anonymous No.5868619]

>>5867694
The map was so good. It's such a shame there are so few usermaps for me to get my Shadow Warrior fix off of. This map isn't the most intricate or interactive but it has enough fun enough combat to make up for that.

[Anonymous No.5868626]

>>5868085
Why? Because video games.

[Anonymous No.5868628]

>>5868195
Sounds like code you'd need to punch in yourself.

[Anonymous No.5868640]

Did someone say Alf

[Anonymous No.5868646]

Get off the bandwagon if you don't know what's what

[Anonymous No.5868658]

>>5868646
The Doom bandwagon?

[Anonymous No.5868659]

>>5868646
>>5868658
Do modern bandwagons exist? Have you ever seen a band perform from a wagon?

[Anonymous No.5868661]

>tfw no lil cacodemon buddy

[Anonymous No.5868662]

>>5868661
>tfw no pain elemental buddy

[Anonymous No.5868663]

>>5868646
Don't you mean "Bang Dagon"?

[Anonymous No.5868665]

what kind of snacks do cacodemons and pain-elementals like?

[Anonymous No.5868669]

>>5868665
cookies and meatballs

[Anonymous No.5868670]

>>5868665
Matches and boo boos

[Anonymous No.5868707]

>>5867583
Remember those obnoxious, hilariously strong fiend-like motherfuckers? Those are your final boss.

[Anonymous No.5868742]

Has anyone made a retro FPS roguelike yet? If not, what Doom mods can I run to get close?

[Anonymous No.5868747]

>>5868742
>retro FPS roguelike
you mean rogueliTe
rogueliKe is specifically turn based, grid-bound RPG.

Anyway, the principles of both work against each other, as you can see in STRAFE which turn out awful. The agressive playstyle demonstrated in the trailers would lead to your death due to roguelite mechanics.
They just don't mix.
The closest thing is Ziggurat or Undead Redneck but those arent very oldschool.

[Anonymous No.5868748]

>>5867539
The symbol you see at the begnning of nuDoom just might be one of the glyphs used by the mystical "angel" people that were overtly shown for a short time in the first D:E trailer that came after the teaser. D:E &nuDOOM=/=OG Doom 1,2 and 64. It might very well be an alternate timeline with similarities and references to the originals here and there, sure. I'd like to see what ships those inner rim "angel" beings have

[Anonymous No.5868752]

>>5868747
quit being transgender for vidya
>pedantic
>semantic
we're really looking for da procedural generation

[Anonymous No.5868758]

>>5868752
>>5868747
Fucking cut it out you two with your shoehorning of issues such as this.

[Anonymous No.5868762]

>>5868742
Nightmare Reaper might be for you.

[Anonymous No.5868763]

>>5868762
it isnt out yet
als it looks like another wolf-tier low-effort "we wanna do pixels" indieshit

[Anonymous No.5868764]

>>5868742
You can sort of simulate the roguelite experience with Oblige (and Obaddon) combined with something like DRLA.

[Anonymous No.5868771]

>>5868763
I got more of a Rise of the Triad vibe.

[Anonymous No.5868781]

>>5868764
>>5868742
Oh, instead of DRLA you can go with my personal favorite combo probably because I'm too brainlet for DRLA - Legendoom + Colorful Hell.

[Anonymous No.5868786]

>>5867539
I hope the 2001 build of DNF isn't lost.

[Anonymous No.5868794]

>>5867596
that is one odd looking nose

[Anonymous No.5868804]

>>5868423
Didn't knew about this. I guess after Hdoom we will eventually get full porn games in gzDoom.

[Anonymous No.5868812]

>>5868747
>roguelite
stop pushing this nondescript meme genre
it will never be a real genre just like you will never be a real woman

[Anonymous No.5868821]

>>5868812
kek but also true.

[Anonymous No.5868824]

>>5868812
Roguelite is what everyone calls it as a compromise, because roguelike it is definitely not.
There's a strict definition of what is a roguelike and what is not. Main statements of that definition is : a) turn based, b) on a grid, c) permadeath.
The only thing that has in common with roguelites is level generation and that's it, especially since most of such games allow some sort of meta-progression between that essentially allows one to grind their way up the challenge, which goes against everything actual roguelikes stand for.
Therefore separate definitions.

I guess you are one of those imbeciles who would bundle different games like Diablo, Rune, Golden Axe, Devil may Cry and Dark Souls under the same banner of "hack and slash", because "that's descriptive duh".

[Anonymous No.5868825]

>>5868824
Golden Axe and DMC are both beat em ups...

[Anonymous No.5868827]

>>5868742
There's some. I think that procedural generation is really, REALLY difficult to apply to a first person shooter, and have it come out well.
Like, I would say that unless someone comes up with a novel approach to it, I would say it's simply not viable for FPS.

[Anonymous No.5868838]

>>5868804
I'm actually kinda surprised no one has tried to give Mike12 a run for his money by making an actual porn game in GZDoom.

[Anonymous No.5868842]

>>5868825
>golden axe
>basic non-linkable combos, very few special moves, 1 spell, very simplistic combat like all beatemups
>linear gameplay from one stage to the next
>DMC
>loads of attacks and combos with different that flow into each other
>non-linear areas to explore and backtrack to

They are different enough to have their own genres. Both of them are action games, but after all you wouldn't bundle Dirtbike Rally and Formula 1 games under same banner even though they are both technically "racing"
That's what we have subgenres for.


>>5868827
I think it comes down to the fact that it is much easier to generate a room with tiles for a top-down/isometric game, while 3D games have to use larger, and thus very easily recogniseable prefabs, that stick out like a sore thumb when they get repeated, while tiles are much easier to recombine into new configurations.

[Anonymous No.5868847]

>>5868842
ffs i need more sleep lol

[Anonymous No.5868849]

>>5868842
They're both beat em up, but I agree they should have their own sub-genre (or sub-sub-genre if you're starting with action).

[Anonymous No.5868854]

>>5868849
"Character action" is as stupid as "metroidvania" and "roguelite"
but we don't have anything better (yet).

I bet somewhere down the line when videogames become officially recognised as art, we will be getting propper academic definitions.
In a 100 years or so lol.

[Anonymous No.5868859]

>>5868854
I like my super special snowflake subgenres of arcade-style beat em up and console-style beat em up.

[Anonymous No.5868864]

>>5867539
>>5867543
ZeroMaster just completed MAP07 of Plutonia on UV Pacifist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MnFyHjgJgk

>Decino: "Impossible."
>ZeroMaster: "Hold my beer."
He didn't even use TAS, the absolute fucking legend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlCfkKZC874

[Anonymous No.5868868]

>>5868842
>while 3D games have to use larger, and thus very easily recogniseable prefabs, that stick out like a sore thumb when they get repeated
For an example of just how *atrocious* this can get, check out Shadow Warrior 2, it's like there's only five or six actual levels in the entire game, and it's made worse by the gameplay being dumbed down by several magnitudes.

The more I play FPS with procgen, the more I get convinced they're not meant for each other. I'm welcome to see someone prove me wrong though.

[Anonymous No.5868872]

Is there any interest in the Doom community to scan and preserve Doom related magazines, mooks, strategy guides, etc?

I checked and basically nothing is scanned.

>durr why would you scan those I already know how to play doom?

It's about preserving texts and gaming history. Plus they're fun to read even for games you know front to back. Plus they sometimes have developer interviews, artwork, and exclusive content.

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/List_of_books#Strategy

[Anonymous No.5868875]

>>5868838
One day.

[Anonymous No.5868878]

>>5868868
SW 2 is especially lazy example.
However the prefabs for the outdoor village locations can get quite good in those rare times the level generator gets truck by a flash of brilliance.
I remember when it generated a fuckhuge 4-story temple with caverns that was really fun to explore. That never happened again.

>I'm welcome to see someone prove me wrong though
Obhack and Obaddon can get quite good results if you configure them right. They also havve fuckton of prefabs and ways to actually procedurally generate parts of the landscape for real, that modern games can't have due to them not being BSP.

[Anonymous No.5868879]

>>5868864
what the fuck

[Anonymous No.5868880]

>>5868838
Good porn games these days expected to have customability that can't be achieved in GZD.

[Anonymous No.5868883]

>>5868880
> customability that can't be achieved in GZD
explain

[Anonymous No.5868887]

>>5868781
But DRLA is brainlet friendly for the most part. You can get so OP at times that you just start breezing through maps with no problems whatsoever. And then the ultra hyper deathmurder monsters show up and put you back in your place.

[Anonymous No.5868889]

>>5868838
HStrife

[Anonymous No.5868892]

>>5868883
Check out character creator of Custom Maid 3D.
Or any modern ILLUSION game.
You can create pretty much any animu character in these thanks to ability to completely customise every aspect of appearance and extremely high modularity (esp. with slider mods)

[Anonymous No.5868907]

>>5868864
Some extremely fancy RNG manipulation or just 500000000000 retries to get it right. DAMN.

[Anonymous No.5868906]

>>5868748
if connecting nudoom and old doom makes no sense, that's another reason to mix timelines because lore isn't an aspect of doom and the new lore isn't even that interesting
it's doom, worry about the background and story of fallout instead

[Anonymous No.5868937]

Sigil is cool but I'm getting stuck literally every 5 minutes

[Anonymous No.5868969]

[Anonymous No.5868980]

>>5868742
I had a survival Dakka server running obaddon maps, you die you lose.

[Anonymous No.5868985]

>>5868969
Did Dakka get monsters or is that a separate monster mod?

[Anonymous No.5868998]

>>5868878
>>5868868
>prefabs
Warframe uses procedural for the maps, it cobbles stuff from prefabs but you can barely notice they are procedural, and through the years the generated levels became quite good IMO, makes grinding more interesting.
Oblige with Obaddon comes pretty close to that if you hit the sweet spot with the many options it gives you.

[Anonymous No.5869002]

>>5868985
That's Dark Doom Creatures, with the addon it gives you dozens extra creatures, it's one of my favorites monster mods.

[Anonymous No.5869031]

>>5867539
I put the GAME.CON file into the DukeGDX folder of M210 projects for BuildGDX, but it still won't run Duke3D; the crash screen says something about a GRP file not found.

[Anonymous No.5869035]

>>5867539
Retcon DNF 2011!

[Anonymous No.5869053]

>that difficulty spike in episode 4 in Heretic

[Anonymous No.5869054]

>>5868998
>but you can barely notice they are procedural
You pretty damn well can.
Especially when the game decides to string 3 identical rooms together in exact same way. There's absolutely no variation in the looks of the rooms with same geometry, so rooms with identical layouts will look exactly the same, and there aren't that many layouts to go around.

When design council actually mattered anything I was pushing for the idea of inside-room variantions for the decorations, that would make rooms not to look so much alike, but apparently that "required to much effort that'd be better put elsewhere".
In the end, the repetitive samy environments tayed, even with addition of new tilesets, that part of the game hasn't improved much.

Even stuff like Immortal Redneck has more variation n its rooms.

For the record - I play WF on and off since it was released, and have 4k+ hours total. It is fun to play in short bursts, but gets boring rather quickly, especially during content draught or when DE introduces way too much grind (like 2% drop from monster that spawns 3% of the time)

[Anonymous No.5869060]

What is your favorite brutal mod?

[Anonymous No.5869069]

>>5869060
The vanilla one

[Anonymous No.5869070]

>>5869060
Project B

[Anonymous No.5869074]

>>5869060
>What is your favorite brutal mod?

Delete.exe

[Anonymous No.5869076]

>>5868878
I got that one a dozen times. It was exciting the first time, surprising the second time, and then I eventually got it many more times and then it was boring.

For me, whenever it used a level chunk (imagine something the size of a few city blocks which are randomly angled together) it had used before, like a city level, everything would be on the same spot, ever street and alley, every house, every chest would be where it always was, every enemy spawn point would be the same, and that's not going into how every time there was a fuckup in the level generation, such as a chest stuck in a wall and being unreachable, or a broken invisible boundary cutting right through the edge of the map, with enemies stuck on the other side, and if you managed to climb over you were stuck and fucked.
These errors always came up again and again, they weren't a glitch in the procedural generation, it was errors in how the chunks were made in the first place, and since there's only a few of those chunks, it would repeatedly place those over and over, and repeatedly put in the same errors over and over.

[Marisa Kirisame !!FrQCaIaTfJw No.5869107]

>>5868017
>a sequel to OG Unreal
At some point early in development the plan for the sequel was to have Prisoner 849 fly the mothership back to the Skaarj homeworld and some shit would happen. Conflict among the Skaarj, Mercs starting a full-scale war against them, Nali rebellions...
They also thought of making it like Strife, with towns with merchants and shit. I really can't make sense of much of this because Tim wrote the notes in a sort of "stream of consciousness" way.

[Anonymous No.5869128]

>>5869060
Brutality is the only one I like.
Unless Quake 1.5 counts

[Anonymous No.5869129]

>>5869031
copy the .grp files from your original install

[Anonymous No.5869157]

why do you people hate cs so much?
it was a good mod/game.

[Anonymous No.5869164]

>>5869157
for making sure to take out any element of traditional FPS skill out of the game

[Anonymous No.5869167]

>>5869164
kys.

[Anonymous No.5869169]

Why is Romero's idea of difficulty just making you spend 40 seconds shotgunning a couple barons/cacos.

Like goddang if you wanted to test my patience, you definitely succeeded there, John.

[Anonymous No.5869171]

>>5869164
so you never played it.

[Anonymous No.5869178]

i know the wolfensteingoodies site has pdf's of 1/2/final manuals but what about actual scans of the manuals themselves?
because the pdf's have this weird pistol icon i'm not sure if it showed up on the actual manuals

[Anonymous No.5869182]

>>5869178
>(((WulfinSCHTEIN)))
Sorry, don't know why I posted this, I just read your post and thought it was funny

[Anonymous No.5869195]

>>5869171
>>5869167
I played it quite a lot back in the days, in the form of CS 1.4-1.6.
Even won a couple of local tournaments when gaming LAN-cafes were still a thing.

[Anonymous No.5869205]

>>5869195
nice lie

[Anonymous No.5869213]

>>5869169
how come doom's difficulty boils down to fill room with enemies, hide the health and ammo

[Anonymous No.5869225]

quakecucks...

[Anonymous No.5869237]

>>5869213
That's every shooter.

[Anonymous No.5869254]

>>5869237
Except Doom 16

[Anonymous No.5869256]

>>5869237
maybe doomclones but there's several other fps that don't bother hurling massive forces at you and drip feeding powerups

[Anonymous No.5869258]

>>5868619
do one

[Anonymous No.5869267]

>>5868068
>because what's the point of playing UT solo?
it has bots
it's fun
it has a gorillion custom maps

[Anonymous No.5869304]

>>5869256
>and drip feeding powerups

Found the guy who can't find secrets.

[Anonymous No.5869305]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMekeLAQBHE

[Anonymous No.5869310]

>>5868864
The absolute madman.

>>5868907
No TAS here, the man is just that good.
Probably took a couple of hours though.

[Anonymous No.5869313]

>>5869305
Carnevil recorded that sound himself, didn't he? Wonder when it was first added to ST.

[Anonymous No.5869342]

>>5869304
don't rub it in now!

[Anonymous No.5869465]

>>5868872

Lack of replies indicates: no.

Just wanna point out that the Devil May Cry Fanbase has you guys beat by a long shot. They scan everything.

https://originaldmc.github.io/DivinityStatue/Downloads.html

[Anonymous No.5869491]

I love pizza

[Anonymous No.5869560]

>>5869491
reported to FBI

[Anonymous No.5869562]

>>5869465
Ok?
You speak as if there is some sort of feud or competition between fanbases of different games. That's weird.
If you want to scan stuff, feel free

[Anonymous No.5869606]

is this one of the best maps ever?

[Anonymous No.5869610]

>>5869169
Romero's levels actually tend to have a much more brisk, popcorn feel than most wads.

[Anonymous No.5869613]

>>5869491
I love doritos

[Anonymous No.5869614]

>>5869606
this and e4m2 are unironically my favourite doom 1 maps

[Anonymous No.5869623]

>>5869225
post forum screenshots related to quakecucks

[Anonymous No.5869685]

Something feels a bit funny about this one Hexen sprite, I can't put my finger on why

[Anonymous No.5869686]

>>5869685
Hexen had the best sprites of the doom engine games.

[Anonymous No.5869687]

>>5869685
I'd make an attempt to explain what's wrong, but I'm no expert on this so trying to do so would be too cocky of me.

[Anonymous No.5869697]

>>5869164
???

[Anonymous No.5869704]

>>5869614
Both are definitely top tier for me too.

[Anonymous No.5869724]

>>5869310
I mean it IS possible to figure out the RNG table in a small map like that. I like to think that he's that kind of good.

[Anonymous No.5869769]

>alright, I've played enough DOOM
>time to play some motherfucking Douk
>get fucking destroyed multiple times in the first level
Is "Come Get Some" not the recommended first-play difficulty?

[Anonymous No.5869771]

>>5869769
Build games are a very very different beast to idtech1 games

If you play them like Doom, you're in for a bad time

[Anonymous No.5869780]

>>5869254
Doom 16 has no difficulty
It also cant more than 12 mobs

[Anonymous No.5869783]

>>5869769
Not the same play style. Gonna have to figure it out.

[Anonymous No.5869798]

>>5869783
>>5869771
Right, I should have figured.
I've been stuck on Level 1 for an hour just because I can't find these last two goddamn secrets. I realized I had a jetpack and thought "oh there's something up here" and there was but somehow that's not one of the secrets.

[Anonymous No.5869808]

>>5869798
Going for 100% secrets might just drive you mad. Some of them are just ???

[Anonymous No.5869810]

>>5869685
You pig!

[Anonymous No.5869816]

>>5869780
>no difficulty
what?

[Anonymous No.5869830]

>>5869816
It's easy.
I beat it on ultranightmare and I struggle heavily on many modern Doom wads.

[Anonymous No.5869846]

>>5868786
It's Opposing Force meets Turok 2 anyway.

[Anonymous No.5869848]

how can i get doom 64 retribution to look closer to the original game? this shit looks way too bright

[Anonymous No.5869854]

>>5869830
one exception doesn't become the norm, just in case. high difficulty levels in 2016 are still punishing. not to mention this very faint scent of bullshit your post gives off.

[Anonymous No.5869860]

>>5869830
You expect anyone to believe this?

[Anonymous No.5869862]

>>5869848
Try this. https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=57247

[Anonymous No.5869883]

Caligari's a cool guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUtt3UMveIE

[Anonymous No.5869920]

Technical question: What does the A- prefix means in the doomsday/jdoom type of texture packs? For what it is used?
Like A-Texture.png instead of just Texture.png

[Anonymous No.5869926]

>>5869883
feels like tarkov
I'll try these mods later

[Anonymous No.5869935]

>>5869883
>using a console controller

[Anonymous No.5869945]

>>5869920
Alpha?

[Anonymous No.5869986]

I'm two days late to screenshot saturday but I don't give a shit.

[Anonymous No.5869995]

>>5869986
How would you do an animated intro?
Make it with sprites on black background?

[Anonymous No.5869998]

>>5869995
within the doom engine itself? Probably make a map and then play all of the stuff I need within it, I had help for the current title screen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb-DsKpt5vY

[Anonymous No.5870154]

>>5869848
sector light modes

[Anonymous No.5870157]

[Anonymous No.5870183]

how the fuck do I use Doom4Vanilla with GZDoom? Dragging the folder or WAD onto the GZDoom.exe only lets me play DOOM2

[Anonymous No.5870186]

>>5870183
copy doom.wad into your gzdoom folder?

[Anonymous No.5870189]

>>5868872
>Is there any interest in the Doom community to scan and preserve Doom related magazines, mooks, strategy guides, etc?

if you want to scan then scan them, faggot. stop mewling for attention

[Anonymous No.5870197]

How do you make it so that when a sector raises/lowers it changes it's floor texture to match the floor texture it moved to? Say you have a pillar in a pit of lava. The lava at some point would raise to the height of the pillar and change to the pillar's floor texture.

[Anonymous No.5870207]

>>5870189
This

[Anonymous No.5870245]

>>5870183
I recommend using something like ZDL instead of drag and drop.

[Anonymous No.5870258]

>>5870186
Both DOOM and DOOM2 wads are in the GZDoom folder.
>>5870245
Tried this also and when i click launch still only launches DOOM2

[Anonymous No.5870293]

>>5867539
>>5867543
Reminder that the cacowards have nothing to do with skill or doom, it's just a personality contest ran by the corrupt.

[Anonymous No.5870307]

>>5868423
she is cute but she looks a bit too young for a milf

[Anonymous No.5870329]

>>5869862
kys

[Anonymous No.5870337]

>>5867539

[Anonymous No.5870339]

>>5868794
shelly has a cute pug nose and i love her!!

[Anonymous No.5870362]

>>5870157
nice.

[Anonymous No.5870379]

>>5870339
She is fucking useless. What a fucking piece of shit protag.

[Anonymous No.5870387]

>>5867596
>this art
Artist should be sued for not drawing her properly fucking SMASHED DRUNK

[Anonymous No.5870426]

>>5869606
It's definitely one of my favorite iD maps, American McGee is a pretty good level designer.

[Anonymous No.5870428]

>>5869614
>>5869704
Yeah, they're fun as hell, it's like IMMEDIATE hardcore action!

[Anonymous No.5870439]

>>5869846
Which wouldn't be bad actually. Certainly better than the DNF we got.

[Anonymous No.5870456]

Replayed Ultimate Doom, e1m4b, e1m8b, Sigil, Doom2, Final Doom (both Plutonia and TNT), Perdition Gate, Hell to Pay, NRFTL and Master Levels.

From all the above, everything but Romero levels and NRFTL is shit.

[Anonymous No.5870493]

>>5870337
Sauce?

[Anonymous No.5870519]

>>5870493
LupinXKassman's twitter.

[Anonymous No.5870552]

>>5870293
Craving for recognition? Don't let them live rent-free in your mind.

[Anonymous No.5870569]

>>5870329
So you don't like darkdoomz.pk3?
No problem, to each their own.

[Anonymous No.5870575]

>>5870339
pugs are deformed

[Anonymous No.5870604]

Hello fellow /doom/ers.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/0fa092nf9d09uwf/wadget.zip/file
No, this is not dolphin porn; I created a script to Download sum wads in the current dir.
I'm sending it here for testing purposes.
And no, this is not a botnet you /g/entleman.

[Anonymous No.5870612]

>Just remember Marveller stopped making FPS videos at all
Sucks, they were good
Probably better at introducing people to mods than Icarus

[Anonymous No.5870623]

Trailblazer might be my favorite weapons mod of all times. Is there any other weapon mod with about the same power level, i.e. strong but not full on Russian Overkill / Guncaster level of batshit?

[Anonymous No.5870635]

>>5870623
Hmm, maybe Dakka?

[Anonymous No.5870639]

>>5870604
Ecco mod when?

[Anonymous No.5870645]

BASED Tier:
Sandy Peterson
Tom Hall
American McGee

Shit Tier:
Romero

[Anonymous No.5870649]

>>5870604
>No, this is not dolphin porn.
Doubt it.

[Anonymous No.5870726]

>>5870258
>To play other PWADs or other ports, I recommended using this command line:
>[SOURCE-PORT] -file [PWAD] D4V.wad [MAP07fix] -nodeh -deh D4V.deh
wow if only you could read

[Anonymous No.5870804]

>>5870293
>awards handed out by a couple of guys in a niche community about an old game has a bias towards what those couple of guys tend to like
stop
the
fucking
PRESSES

[Anonymous No.5870807]

>>5870623
is that a cyberdemon on mastermind legs

[Anonymous No.5870812]

>>5870623
I wanna play something with Trailblazer, since everyone seems to like it.
What maps / monster mods would recommend to go along with it?

[Anonymous No.5870820]

>>5870804
>You have to be a sockpuppet of these couple of dudes and pamper them endlessly or you will be shafted
stop
the
fucking
PRESSES

[Anonymous No.5870821]

>>5870820
Examples?

[Anonymous No.5870823]

>>5870821
I'm not falling for your bait.

[Anonymous No.5870824]

>>5870812
maps of chaos

[Anonymous No.5870832]

>>5870820
Shafted? The awards mean NOTHING, those guys are only an authority if you choose to think of them as one, there isn't anything to stop you from disregarding them and disagreeing with them.

[Anonymous No.5870839]

I don't even read the cacowards.
Who gives a fuck about receiving a cacoward.
If you're into doing doom stuff for recognition from others, you're doing things wrong. Better put your effort on receiving real profit, not meme profit. Even doing things for fun is more profit that wanting others to praise your skill.
I don't even know the cacoward cabal people and I would not defend them because I couldn't care less. But people loudly complaining that the the cacowards are corrupt sound very much like oversocialized special snowflakes outraged that a fucking "award" is biased, go back to ResetEra for your equality free socialist virtue signaling points, POS.

[Anonymous No.5870842]

Why are people bitching about the cacowards all of suddenly? Aren't they in like 3 months?

[Anonymous No.5870845]

>>5870839
Special snowflakes should do their own thing instead of trying to shame others because "opression".
You don't like an award? Do your own awards shit and stop complaining.
Indie hipster filmakers hated hollywood, so they did their own shit, sundance, so they could be hipster faggots as much as they want, while hollywood keeps being jewish brainwashing pedos.

[Anonymous No.5870849]

>>5870842
Because a nobody is angry somebody else is having an "award" from some boomers. Probably a kid that had no love from his parents.

[Anonymous No.5870854]

>>5870842
>people
>suddenly
it was literally one guy and you're being a passive aggressive dipshit by "asking" without quoting him.
you're still giving him attention, even if you aren't directly replying to him.

[Anonymous No.5870856]

>>5870839
>I don't even read the cacowards
I usually read them to see if there was anything good I missed that year. I mostly just see it as a recommendation by a couple of guys who I sometimes agree with, and sometimes not.

I've found a couple of pretty decent ones over the years that I would otherwise had missed.

[Anonymous No.5870857]

>>5870849
I'd bet is Graf Zahl, still angry that the lilith.pk3 dude got a cuckoward.

[Anonymous No.5870862]

>>5870832
As other anon said, the cacowards live rent free in that guy's mind.

[Anonymous No.5870868]

>>5870845
>Indie hipster filmakers hated hollywood, so they did their own shit, sundance
Which is massively less retarded even if it is hipster shit. The issue here is that every single wing of the Doom community is filled to the brim with elitism and faggotry. It's not even a community really, it's several cliques that all dislike each other but get along for the purpose of lording their perceived status over the random people who just like the fucking game. I would LOVE for there to be other awards given out to content from different people using different judging methods but it's never going to happen. If it did, the drama would be unending until the new guys just got fed up and left.

[Anonymous No.5870874]

>>5870868
>lording their perceived status
There you go, they don't actually mean anything.
Are you always this neurotic?

[Anonymous No.5870880]

>>5870874
I'm not even the guy you think I am. Fuck off faggot.

[Anonymous No.5870885]

>>5870868
So you are "outraged" for such injustice and inequality.
And you want a centralized objective "award" thing that encompass the whole "community".
You certainly sound like a communist SJW POS.
Go make your own "award" and stop complaining because you don't fit on their private clubs.

[Anonymous No.5870886]

Unreal is garbage.

[Anonymous No.5870894]

>>5870874
>Are you always this neurotic?
LOL at his answer:

>>5870880
>I'm not even the guy you think I am. Fuck off faggot.

Yes, he's always this neurotic. I could get insulted by him, but dogs must bark, right?

[Anonymous No.5870895]

>>5870868
Based and REDWALLpilled

[Anonymous No.5870898]

>>5870895

[Anonymous No.5870906]

>>5870898
That thing says "award-winning", you'll trigger cacoward-anon.

[Anonymous No.5870916]

>>5870906
How those mouse furry cartoon secrat cabal awards dare giving them an AWARD! Fucking corrupt personality contests!
I would LOVE for there to be other north-korean animated mouse awards given out to content from different people using different judging methods but it's never going to happen.

[Anonymous No.5870917]

Jesus christ you speds need to calm the fuck down.

[Anonymous No.5870932]

>>5870917
Reminder that speds have nothing to do with skill or doom, it's just a calm down contest ran by the fuck down corrupt.

[Anonymous No.5870946]

>>5870917
>>5870932
>doom community ran by ham-planets
explains a lot

[Anonymous No.5870948]

>>5870946
As spherical as cacos.
Explains a lot.

[Anonymous No.5870958]

>>5870948
As cross-dressing and trans as an archvile.
Explains a lot.

[Anonymous No.5870960]

>cacowards dismissed for the shit it is, as is the cacoward cabal
>Cockaward Defense Force suddenly shows up

[Anonymous No.5870962]

>>5870946
That's why you don't "join" a fandom community.
Enjoy your own thing, share if you want, but you don't try to police or look for validation from others.
This is why these retro fps threads work for me, it's functional anarchy at it's best, even the shitposting here doesn't blooms as much as in other boards.

[Anonymous No.5870965]

>>5870960
Thinking less about the KEK-o-wards would be healthier for you, pal. Cacowards are shit, no doubt. but you're being a paranoid sperg much.

[Anonymous No.5870967]

>autist awards
>trannies
>schizophrenics
is this the d*om community lads?

[Anonymous No.5870968]

>>5870958
It's a white genocide!

[Anonymous No.5870969]

>>5870839
>top left corner
DELETE THIS CURSED IMAGE
the rest are fine though

[Anonymous No.5870971]

>>5870967
Only if you are into being in fandom "communities".
Do you need that validation from others so much?

[Anonymous No.5870972]

>>5870967
It always was

[Anonymous No.5870976]

>>5870969
ikr

[Anonymous No.5870978]

>>5870972
Don't revise history in your favor.

[Anonymous No.5870982]

You're living
You take up space
So you're mass
and you matter

[Anonymous No.5870984]

>>5870978
What favor, idiot, everything had been fucked up since always. You're like those idiots saying /b/ was good once back then.

[Anonymous No.5870987]

>>5870839
MEATWAD GET THE HONEYS G

[Anonymous No.5870989]

>>5870982
You're living
You take up space
So GET OUT OF THE WAY MOM I CAN'T SEE THE TV

[Anonymous No.5870993]

>(((gr*f)))
what the heck is his problem?

[Anonymous No.5870994]

>>5870987
>>>5870839
MEAT.WAD
meat dot wad
Coincidence?
>x-files.mp3

[Anonymous No.5870997]

>>5870993
Autism and a personality disorder from bad genes and bad parenting.

[Anonymous No.5870998]

>>5870823
Ok.

[Anonymous No.5871001]

>>5870993
I don't understand why you're greentexting his name inside parentheses, as if he's jewish or as if that matters to his "NO"s

[Anonymous No.5871003]

>>5870978
>he says while trying to revise history in his cockaward loving favor

[Anonymous No.5871006]

>>5871001
As if Graf is a jannie here, lmao, I'd guess a freudian slip.

[Anonymous No.5871007]

>>5870984
oldfag here
/b/ was never good
but it was better.

[Anonymous No.5871013]

>>5871003
ALF, did you stopped hating on HL and changed subjects?
Congratulations! You're improving, man, good work.

[Anonymous No.5871016]

>>5871007
olderfag here
no it wasn't better
it has been always terrible.

[Anonymous No.5871024]

>>5871013
let me tell you something, a little bit of knowledge from an oldfag. you're going to disregard it, so i don't know why i'm telling it to you.
but this meme that you're pushing...you and i both know it's bullshit.

pursuing an imaginary boogeyman is pursuing an imaginary boogeyman, no matter what name you put on it. you can't put a name on anonymous shitposting. it is, by its nature, anonymous.
trying to jump ahead of the game to identify shitposting doesn't do anything. you can try and "read posting styles", but that results in nothing more often than not.
the thing about anonymous is that it's impossible to keep track of the individual people that make us up. the tastes, likes, and dislikes of other people. anonymous is a shapeless changing mass that varies from day to day, both in knowledge and posting style and posting intent. it's easy to say the people who don't like what i like are shitposters, or the people who think differently must be colluding, or something, but 9/10 times it's just nothing. a shadow to jump at.

bloating up the threads with a contest about who can do the coolest dismissive one-liner does nothing but shit things up further. "this is bait" style replies are the same thing, empty space that's essentially self-masturbatory fluff.
do some actual discussion or shut the fuck up. don't blame a boogeyman.
now i know this point is going to completely fly over your head, but i've said my piece and i'm done, so back to playing doom.

[Anonymous No.5871028]

>>5871024
cool pasta

[Anonymous No.5871030]

>>5871007
good at what

[Anonymous No.5871031]

>>5871028
just cause it's a pasta doesn't mean it's wrong

[Anonymous No.5871034]

>>5871024
I'm glad that you're now using copy-pasta, dude, I'm happy for you.
No more half-life related old forum screenshots, that's great! You're doing fine.

[Anonymous No.5871045]

>>5870993
>try to play Doom2
>50fps
Fuck this piece of shit

[Anonymous No.5871050]

>>5871034
Imagine the autist OCD trauma enough to save those screenshots for 2 decades in an old hard drive, and try to win /vr/ over that old argument. Then /vr/ was only concerned about your mental health issues and sincerely hoping for the best to you, helping you to leave your obsession behind making you feel better.

[Anonymous No.5871052]

>>5871031
Stop using non-retro reaction images.

[Anonymous No.5871056]

>>5871050
And guys, that's ALF-Life.

THE END.

[Anonymous No.5871057]

>>5871052
>Half-Life is only retro when it suits my argument!

[Anonymous No.5871060]

>Stop using non-retro reaction images.
>>Stop using non-retro reaction images.
>>>Stop using non-retro reaction images.

[Anonymous No.5871061]

>>5871052
No

[Anonymous No.5871065]

>It's another "everybody who doesn't agree with me is the same boogeyman!" episode.
Get the hell out of here Denton!

[Anonymous No.5871067]

>>5871057
>That's not retro fps related
it's a thread meme here, dude.
Are you that much of a tourist?

[Anonymous No.5871070]

UNREAL SUCKS.

[Anonymous No.5871072]

Why dont the posters who hate the cacowards actually name some wads they think were wrongfully snubbed or something instead of vague bitter whining

[Anonymous No.5871073]

>>5871070
Yes ALF, it does.
>goodvibes.exe

[Anonymous No.5871075]

>>5871072
Because they aren't actually posting in good faith.

[Anonymous No.5871080]

>>5871072
Because that would expose their own taste in wads to anonymous scrutinity , and since they are oversocialized drones who rejoice in the consensus, they will not. A.K.A. hypocrisy.

[Anonymous No.5871081]

>>5871070
unreal tourny doe dat nioce

[Anonymous No.5871082]

>>5871080
>>5871075
or maybe we don't like our superior tastes of piccasso having shit smeared on them like degrassi because the masses have poor tastes.

[Anonymous No.5871083]

>>5871057
Half-Life 2 is never retro. Please read the sticky or you may be reported.

[Anonymous No.5871089]

barrels o' fuck off sandy

[Anonymous No.5871093]

>>5871083
do you need assistance getting whatever crawled up your asshole out

[Anonymous No.5871094]

>>5871089
Why do you hate fun?

[Anonymous No.5871096]

>>5871093
Do you need assistance following board rules?

[Anonymous No.5871102]

>>5871083
>never retro
this is like saying family guy will never be seen as retro

[Anonymous No.5871104]

>>5871083
Wait so does this mean I can report Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal related posts?

[Anonymous No.5871106]

>>5871083
it's literally from 2004 retard, anyone but spergs like you considers that objectively retro

[Anonymous No.5871107]

>>5871096
ohhhh somebody mad
get glad !

[Anonymous No.5871108]

>>5871104
Yes but please don't, we have a good thing going on here

[Anonymous No.5871113]

>>5871108>>5871104
you should only report posts that make your hemorrhoids flare up but if it happens often see your doctor

[Anonymous No.5871116]

>>5871104
If you care about the integrity of this board, yes.
>>5871102
Why are you posting on this board if you've never read the sticky? /vr/'s definition of retro isn't subjective retro like on reddit, it's an objective retro based on a clear, real cutoff that is the same no matter what year it is, thus Half-Life 2 will never, ever be retro. If you don't like it, you're perfectly welcome to discuss the game on >>>/v/.

[Anonymous No.5871120]

>>5871116
yea
that's cool and all
but

[Anonymous No.5871124]

>>5871116
the language suggest they will change it as console generations release and well the next is coming soon

[Anonymous No.5871126]

>>5871016
>olderfag here
I doubt it.
>>5871030
quality, you nut.

[Anonymous No.5871127]

>>5871116
That's super retarded

[Anonymous No.5871129]

>>5871124
Have the rules changed, cuck? Come back when they do, then feel free to discuss texture-filtered games all you want.

[Anonymous No.5871132]

>>5871126
quality
b

[Anonymous No.5871145]

>>5871129
oh fuck you -.-

BTW this finally gets a PC release so hopfully a proper iwad as well

[Anonymous No.5871149]

>>5871145
>that lighting
fucking gross

[Anonymous No.5871151]

>>5871145
DOOM64

[Anonymous No.5871152]

>>5871149
this isnt the PC release this is a random screenshot i found
>>5871151
that hacky at best

[Anonymous No.5871154]

>>5871145
>finally
hasn't Doom64EX been out for years though?

[Anonymous No.5871156]

>>5871152
all dooms are good
1-2016

[Anonymous No.5871160]

>>5871154
its not official though if i buy the PC release i can play it with 0 guilt

[Anonymous No.5871165]

>>5871160
>feeling guilty about pirating an out of print game on a shitty nintendo console
Yeah sounds like the Switch port would be more up your alley anon

[Anonymous No.5871170]

>>5871165
i always feel guilty when i pirate good games

[Anonymous No.5871172]

>>5871145
But there's already one

[Anonymous No.5871180]

>>5871170
But if nobody who is responsible for making it ever sees any of the money what's the point?

[Anonymous No.5871181]

>>5871149
>muh soul

[Anonymous No.5871183]

>>5871129
Today I learned that texture filtering wasn't invented until the year 2000.

[Anonymous No.5871184]

>>5871124
I think a better idea would be to wait until 2025 and then require a game be at least 25 years old or something, no matter the system, that's a long-ass fucking time in terms of videogames. Vidya was colossally different 25 years ago and it will be colossally different in 25 years.

[Anonymous No.5871186]

>>5871156
I like Doom 3.

[Anonymous No.5871190]

>>5871181
it's not about soul, crysis-tier lighting effects just look jarring and shit when the rest of the graphics are clearly old

[Anonymous No.5871192]

>>5871180
mostly my own conscious and well to have easy access to it

[Anonymous No.5871194]

>>5871183
>being this much of a revisionist SJW
You need to go back.

[Anonymous No.5871196]

>>5871194
>what is Goldeneye 64
>what is Half-Life
>what is glQuake
>what is Quake 2
>what is Quake 3
Zoomzoom.

[Anonymous No.5871198]

>>5871116
You're getting older

[Anonymous No.5871201]

>>5871196
>>what is Goldeneye 64
shit
>>what is Half-Life
good
>>what is glQuake
good
>>what is Quake 2
good
>>what is Quake 3
should've had real singleplayer

[Anonymous No.5871204]

>>5871196
>retro
>retro, but not in spirit
>retro
>not retro
>not retro
2.5/5 of this post is not retro. I'm not going to warn you again.

[Anonymous No.5871213]

>>5871201
>quake 2 good

[Anonymous No.5871217]

>>5871204
>>retro, but not in spirit
based and alfpilled.

[Anonymous No.5871218]

>>5871198
Yet Half-Life 2 was still released after 1999 and thus is objectively not retro, strange, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.5871219]

>>5871190
Baked volumetric lights existed in retro times, way before Crysis.

[Anonymous No.5871221]

>>5871204
dude you're so god damn retarded
quake 2 & 3 are retro so stfu you dumb biotch

[Anonymous No.5871224]

>>5871194
Wait you actually believe that?

[Anonymous No.5871229]

>>5870519
wut? It's from Andrea Gori

[Anonymous No.5871234]

>>5871224
Just because it existed doesn't mean it was an accepted part of the retro spirit.
>>5871221
Games directly responsible for CSGO, CoD and its ilk are by definition non retro. Consider reading a book sometime.

[Anonymous No.5871236]

>>5871204
>Quake 2, released in '97 isn't retro
>Quake 3, released in '99 also isn't retro
I'd like to know the mental gymnastics behind such statements.

[Anonymous No.5871237]

>>5871234
Nigger texture filtering is really fucking old.

[Anonymous No.5871238]

>>5871229
Oh. I apparently got their projects mixed up. Whoops.

[Anonymous No.5871239]

>>5870493
What this guy >>5871229 said, it's Batandy doing more Golden Souls three shit
https://twitter.com/batandy_?lang=en

[Anonymous No.5871242]

>>5867718
i dont freedoom

[Anonymous No.5871243]

>>5871234
>Quake 3 is responsible for CoD and CS:GO
You ok bro? Are you having a stroke?

[Anonymous No.5871245]

>>5871234
dude you're so god damn retarded
quake
half-life
counter-strike
retro
by anyone's definition
retrograde as all hell

>>5871186
me2

[Anonymous No.5871246]

doom eternal will be great

[Anonymous No.5871249]

>>5871246

[Anonymous No.5871250]

>>5871213
>quake 2 bad

anything past 2007 is not retro
2007 is the year everything started going to shit.

[Anonymous No.5871251]

>>5871237
>>5871243
>Worthless subjective posts which contribute no arguments
I shouldn't be surprised, after all I am dealing with filterbrains.
>>5871245
Retro in a subjective sense perhaps (i.e., by "release date"), but they are not objectively retro.

[Anonymous No.5871252]

>>5871249
>can i help you frog?

[Anonymous No.5871254]

>>5871243
As retarded as he is, he's technically right seeing as CoD uses a modified Quake 3 engine even to this day, and the source engine is a modified Quake engine.
That being said you really shouldn't engage with him. Do not reply to his post.

[Anonymous No.5871257]

>>5871254
john carmack is literally responsible for PC gaming

[Anonymous No.5871258]

>>5871251
No you're fucking retard there were texture filtered games in 94 and possibly even older, it's retro, deal with it or kill yourself

[Anonymous No.5871259]

>>5871243
No, he's this dumb all the time.

[Anonymous No.5871261]

so i take it this retard considers ion fury to be retro?

[Anonymous No.5871267]

>>5871246
yes I agree

>>5871251
You're going to agrue subjectivity and objectivity and your entire basis of your argument is one of your distinct perspective?
>Holy Fuck
We're filter brains? That's us?
>God damn
>>5871254
who cares what engine is what, as long as the damn genre evolves

[Anonymous No.5871274]

>>5871261
As stupid as that argument is, would it be considered retro if it was released as a free standalone thing? Is it being sold for money the deciding factor? Because AMC TC shouldn't be considered retro seeing as it's a huge TC that was made after 2000.
What about something like REKKR? It's a standalone package that's totally compatible with DOS Doom, but it was made after the year 2000, so it shouldn't be retro either, meaning we shouldn't discuss it.

This is stupid.

[Anonymous No.5871284]

>>5871274
Yes, Rekkr is retro. Bombshe- I mean, Ion Maide- ION FURY, SORRY. is Retro.

[Anonymous No.5871317]

can you quakefags stop pretending your game is anything but a tech demo?

[Anonymous No.5871328]

>play Control at 60fps
>yet get 30fps on a slightly modified Doom 2 mapset and a hud.
Thanks Graf

[Anonymous No.5871356]

Where did comfy /doom/ threads go
I want them back

[Anonymous No.5871362]

>>5871356
they died in 07.

[Anonymous No.5871382]

Let's post our WIP screens, surely that will distract from the drama!?

>>5871362
2013 I'd say.

[Anonymous No.5871396]

>>5871382
goodness, those textures clash like mad.
I'd post wip screens but I'm not working on anything anymore, so take a look at the "free for cannibalizing" zip in the OP

[Anonymous No.5871402]

>>5871396
I'm going with a post-UD Episode 2 theme, so the clash is intentional.

[Anonymous No.5871408]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkoTL8tH_90

This looks beautiful.

[Anonymous No.5871412]

>>5871402
Okay, but
>RED floor on comp tower
>RED switch on Comp tower
>out of place GREEN on the steps in the foreground
>blue 'felt' on the Semisteps in the middle looks wrong with that sidetexture
>red and grey smooth flats on riveted metal in the backround
>teleporter on ceiling flipped and landed butter-side up on the floor
>no transitional texture between the red hellish rock and the black rock, which also goes straight to bricks

[Anonymous No.5871421]

alright anons I've always been a doom baby and I'm looking to play through quake, I think I played maybe half of quake 1 back in the day and I'm looking for some input on which ones to play and which ones to maybe skip, I heard some of them aren't super good.
Also interested which source ports to use and some potential mods to try out after I'm done with vanilla stuff, I was recommended arcane dimensions by another anon.

[Anonymous No.5871427]

>>5871356
and the mods let it happen too

[Anonymous No.5871431]

>>5871421
play all of quake 1
play both expansions
play dimensions of the past
then play arcane dimensions

[Anonymous No.5871434]

>playing gayke

[Anonymous No.5871453]

>>5871412
Will definitely fix the GREEN, not sure how that passed by.

Do you mean the felt-on-steps in general or a particular set? Both examples in the screen match, though I can see the merit in changing the bottom-most flat next to the COMP towers and felt tiles. I'm satisfied with the red-metal combo, same with the teleporter since there's a theme of demons fucking up UAC warps and trying to hack on their own.

I'm finishing up RC1 for a release in several hours, so you'll have the chance to look at more of the map later.

[Anonymous No.5871454]

>>5871421
Play Quake on Medium, then play it again on Hard and marvel at how it's even more fun, after you've beat Quake on Hard (which isn't actually too difficult), you should be ready for for the rest.
Then play Dissolution Of Eternity and Scourge Of Armagon (either order), these change up the gameplay some, and raise the stakes some, do them on Medium and you're good.

Then try out Dimensions Of The Past, and finally Arcane Dimensions.
Remember that Shamblers take half damage from explosives, shotguns will not give you overpenetration like in Doom, the base shotgun is actually your pistol tier weapon (and it's actually pretty good as such), and when you find a Quad Damage, haul ass and go look for things to kill.

Make sure you get the music as well.

[Anonymous No.5871469]

>>5871421
>play/skip
They're unrelated enough that it's pretty much down to taste, but 3 is multiplayer only if that bothers you, and 4 is a sequel to 2 so you'd probably only wanna play it if you really liked 2 and even then I've heard it's not great
>source port
Quakespasm is the best if you want easy vanilla-faithfulness, compatibility with modern systems, and largest mod compatibility. The only other source port of note is Darkplaces and that's pretty much dead development-wise and also looks like hot shit in my opinion, but there's a handful of mods that only work on it.
>mods
aside from AD i enjoy A Roman Wilderness of Pain, Rubicon Rumble Pack, Contract Revoked, and Zerstörer.

[Anonymous No.5871472]

>>5871453
Let me just scribble what I mean, then.
See? Collaborating on maps isn't that bad.

[Anonymous No.5871501]

[Anonymous No.5871507]

>>5871421
>>5871454
In Q1 it's also possible to switch difficulty mid-game between episodes, just take the teleport behind your back in the episode selection room in the hub map.
Medium is comparatively boring, Hard is cooler but you need to be already a bit used to the game mechanics first. Stay away from Nightmare for the first playthrough.
If you're going to use QuakeSpasm (which I recommend):
fov <whatever>
gl_texturemode gl_nearest_mipmap_linear
r_viewmodel_quake 1
Also make sure to check out the "So you want to play some..." section in the OP
You're welcome.

[Anonymous No.5871535]

>>5871501
> my beard is full of tiny men
> please
> KILL THEM ALL

[Anonymous No.5871548]

>>5871434
>Implying you even know how to play quake enough to judge.

[Anonymous No.5871551]

>>5871548
game is boring as fuck.

[Anonymous No.5871553]

Why did GZDoom fuck with the font?

Or am I just retarded?

[Anonymous No.5871559]

>>5871551
regards, militaryshit CounterNigger

[Anonymous No.5871561]

>>5871553
I haven't noticed it, do you have texture filtering on?

[Anonymous No.5871592]

>>5871507

dont forget r_scale 2

[Anonymous No.5871598]

How can I make spectres actually hard to see on gzdoom?

[Anonymous No.5871604]

>>5871559
rent free.
quake was and will be a mediocre shooter.
no matter how /v/ shitters love to pretend otherwise.

[Anonymous No.5871623]

>>5871561
>>5871553
look at this shit, what font even is this

[Anonymous No.5871624]

>>5871604
We get it, the shareware episode was too hard for you to beat

[Anonymous No.5871628]

>>5871624
>quake
>hard

[Anonymous No.5871629]

>>5871623
oh, that font
i don't really mind since the regular doom font is kind of hard to read for the amount of smaller text in the options screen

[Anonymous No.5871631]

>>5871628
Lots of things can be hard when you have developmental disabilities anon, but we still love you all the same

[Anonymous No.5871634]

>>5871553
Because Graf is a moron and ruined everything as usual to pursue some insane pet project, in this case ruining the fonts they can be adapted to localizations only one person in the world will play like ancient uigur runic script and martian ringforms.

[Anonymous No.5871636]

>>5871559
based.

[Anonymous No.5871637]

>>5871604
>>5871559
>>5871551
>>5871548
What are good FPS games where you fight monsters and can play co-op?

Games that come to mind for me are

Doom
Halo
Quake (but people say it's boring)
CoD Zombies

Doom unfortunately doesn't really have a fleshed out co-op mode. You can respawn just like in Deathmatch and people can share gun pickups; it's just off.

Halo isn't on PC yet, and has too much weapon spread for my taste, AND only supports 2 players for its best campaigns

Quake is kind of dull and I don't like the guns. I like the quake 3 machine gun but that has no campaign. Is Quake 2 good?

Zombies is fun but has its own problems and limitations.

[Anonymous No.5871641]

>>5870967
That's one of the reasons why I love Doom

[Anonymous No.5871646]

>>5871637
>You can respawn just like in Deathmatch
Is this not how co-op is supposed to work? Or do you want some Mario shit where you have to restart the entire level every time the worst player dies
>Is Quake 2 good?
only one way to find out

[Anonymous No.5871649]

>>5871631
stay mad.

[Anonymous No.5871654]

>>5871636
samefag

[Anonymous No.5871686]

>>5871646
Differences between Halo and Doom:
1. Doom has Quicksaving, Halo has Checkpoints.
2. In Halo, you drop all your weapons and ammo on the ground if you die. In Doom, you don't, they just vanish.
3. In Halo, if everyone dies, you go back to the previous checkpoint. In Doom, if everyone dies, they just respawn.

So as far as progression goes, I think Halo's is much better fleshed out than Doom's.

[Anonymous No.5871689]

>>5871686
Careful, pro-Halo sentiments in /vr/ are not taken kindly

[Anonymous No.5871695]

>>5871686
It sounds like you just want to play Halo then
1 and 2 have been on PC since they were released

[Anonymous No.5871701]

>>5871695
>Gearbox Halo

[Anonymous No.5871704]

>>5871701
>actually caring who did the port when you can just pirate it
then get the master chef collection or whatever you gay nigger

[Anonymous No.5871705]

>>5871686
cont
In Doom Single Player you have to go back to a save when you die. In Doom Co-op you don't; you just respawn. The penalty is (optionally) losing your weapons and ammo. This sucks for two reasons
1. When the game winds your progress back, you have to change your strategy and get good in order to overcome and not have the same thing happen again. If you just respawn into the game with your progress at the same point where you died, there's no incentive to get good, and a death trap or enemy placement isn't the same obstacle it would have been.In Co-op play this means no one needs to communicate, cooperate, or plan or be careful because there is nothing at risk.
2. If you come back with your gear, there's even LESS penalty to dying and no need to be careful or try not to die or cooperate with your friends.
But if you DON'T come back with your gear, that gear is erased from the map. Meaning there is now less ammunition than the developers intended for the fights. This COULD lead to an exciting situation where you have to carefully traverse the map with limited items, except it DOESN'T, because if you die, you just respawn again. Meaning you are just end up attacking the enemy with waves of yourself with the pistol. And then you go and grab more guns, and lose those too and the cycle repeats until you're just stuck in a situation where you're clearly underpowered but it doesn't matter because you can just throw yourself at the situation until the enemies run out.

[Anonymous No.5871706]

Which version of GZDoom has the best performance? I don't care about drama or any of that gay shit, I just want to know what version runs the best.

[Anonymous No.5871710]

>>5871706
i thought that was a lion head by the thumbnail. that would of been funnier.

[Anonymous No.5871712]

>>5871701
was gearbox ever good anyway?

[Anonymous No.5871717]

>>5871712
A lot of people like Opposing Force.

[Anonymous No.5871719]

>>5871705
cont
- Quicksaves can be made by the PLAYER with the press of a button in Doom. But in Halo, the game decides when Checkpoints are reached.
- In Halo, the host (or any player, I don't recall) can choose to load the last checkpoint at any time, bringing all players with him.
- In Doom, you cannot load checkpoints during co-op play. I THINK you can save during co-op play, quit, then load that save when starting co-op play, but I'm not entirely sure. I think there's some command that causes everyone to save their game. I've never had anyone to test it with.

>>5871689
Please keep in mind; I'm not talking about the actual mechanics of Halo; I'm talking about how it handles Coop specifically.

>>5871695
Except PC Halo doesn't have co-op. And I'm discussing the differences in the co-op modes of Doom and Halo, and how Halo's is more fleshed out, while Doom's is more like a deathmatch with monsters.

[Anonymous No.5871721]

>>5871719
>PC Halo doesn't have co-op
what about the mister cheef collection version?

[Anonymous No.5871727]

>>5871686
Doom co-op is great when you have lives, or even just one life each. Makes for fun clutch moments when only one person is left alive.
>>5871637
Serious Sam

[Anonymous No.5871736]

>>5871637
>Quake (but people say it's boring)
Who the FUCK says that?

[Anonymous No.5871741]

>>5871736
people with taste.

[Anonymous No.5871742]

>>5871741
*without

[Anonymous No.5871743]

>>5871705
This. Any modern multiplayer port like Zandronum you could set up a survival server with respawning item pickups enabled. The pistol thing doesn't matter as much as you think since virtually EVERY Boom/Vanilla Doom map is designed to be beat with only a pistol. It's a limitation of Doom's map format where you can only work with one at at time.

[Anonymous No.5871772]

>>5871719
>>5871705
In Halo when you die in Co-op:
1. You drop ALL your gear onto the floor
2. When you respawn, you have some base starting gear. Enough to fight with, but nothing cool.
3. You CAN'T RESPAWN UNTIL the remaining players are not "currently in combat" (so until they get to a "stopping point". The game decides what this is)
4. If all players die without respawning, the game loads the last checkpoint for everyone.
-On higher difficulties, it'll do this if just one player dies.
cont

1 and 2 combined mean that dying loses you stuff, but doesn't lose the TEAM stuff. Plus you can go get your shit back.

3 and 4 combined mean that while one player dying doesn't ruin it for everyone (unless Iron is on), it DOES make their lives more difficult, AND it advances them towards losing progress. >>5871646, this is related to what you were talking about with Mario shit.

>>5871727
So everyone starts the level, when you lose your life you are just dead, but if the team or just one guy makes it to the end, everyone comes back next level? That's interesting. That could actually work. That also panders to people who are more into the game, whereas Halo's style is more casual than that. Unfortunately, I'm friends with casuals, but even they might dig the lives system. I'll have to try it out. Serious Sam, too.

>>5871721
Not out yet. And even when it comes out, Halo has shortcomings of its own. After all, I'm in the Doom vr general.

>>5871736
People on here. and me kind of

[Anonymous No.5871776]

>>5871772
>People on here
Fuck you guys, this can't be real.
https://www.strawpoll.me/18618660

[Anonymous No.5871781]

>>5871634
The kraut chicken shit brains wanted its ümläüts.

[Anonymous No.5871782]

>>5871742
I like quake games I like doom games
I hate people who argue them, die pls

[Anonymous No.5871802]

>>5871736
zoomers with ADHD

[Anonymous No.5871806]

>>5871706
The answer depends on your hardware, graf hates amd.
Download them all youeant and test the fps yourself, use vid_fps 1 in console.
I used the legacy branch because it had the 4:3 resolutions i wanted for mi CRT.

[Anonymous No.5871809]

quake sucks.

[Anonymous No.5871816]

>>5871772
Dead players can spectate living ones. Serious Sam has Coin-Op, which is a very similar experience but everyone has a shared lives pool. Killing enemies and getting pickups grant points that can earn extra lives. It might just be a thing for the HD remakes, though.

[Anonymous No.5871825]

>>5871772
cont

So in conclusion, Doom's co-op does not encourage cooperation, strategy, or care.
Add onto this the fact that you can move at 1000 miles an hour and co-op matches end up kind of being a shit show.

So one quick fix to Doom's co-op would be enabling the host to load a quicksave that everyone loads. (This would mean everyone makes a quicksave when the host does and loads that quicksave when the host loads his)
This way the host would control when to savescum. Just like in one player runs.
And when one player dies, have everyone load that save, or the level start (with their guns, don't wanna piss people off TOO much) if there is no save.
But this would lead to Halo Iron esque play where one guy dying makes everyone die, so it would invert and people would be super careful and paranoid, perhaps too much so.

[Anonymous No.5871837]

>>5871776
>https://www.strawpoll.me/18618660
you should have added a 'kind of' option

[Anonymous No.5871840]

Finally managed to pistolstart Sigil MAP05. This level is absolutely miserable to play.

[Anonymous No.5871841]

>>5871837
Quake made a 3D engine for videogames. Alf made a videogame.

[Anonymous No.5871846]

>>5871841
who is alf

[Anonymous No.5871898]

HUH has some fun maps

[Anonymous No.5871928]

so after years of playing with source ports I was messing with dos and just installed doom and holy shit I can't go back to the source ports now

[Anonymous No.5871934]

>>5871928
Ok

[Anonymous No.5871935]

>>5871928
yeah nothing better than having to run novert every time you want to play

[Anonymous No.5871942]

doom 3 is based

[Anonymous No.5871950]

>>5871846
The one with not even half a life.

[Anonymous No.5871952]

>>5871928
>worse framerate
>lower resolution
>worse controls
I mean, you do you, but i dont understand how anyone could prefer dosbox to sourceports beyond nostalgia.

[Anonymous No.5871957]

>>5871952
Imagine it being not even dosbox, what about MS-DOS 6.x, or worst, FreeDOS.

[Anonymous No.5871958]

>>5871952
Well I don't disagree, it is nostalgia (maybe was just looking for an excuse to play Doom again).

It all started when I was looking to finally play Dark Forces to the end

[Anonymous No.5871959]

>>5871950

[Anonymous No.5871961]

>>5871928
Try DOS Boom

[Anonymous No.5871986]

Doom and Quake are shit.

[Anonymous No.5872007]

What did you guys think of E5M5: Abaddon's Void from SIGIL? I'm playing on the 1.1 version of the WAD

I've been having a rough time trying to UV Max it without saves. It's quite resource starving. The fact that there isn't even a chaingun anywhere to be seen, so you end up having to pistol a lot of stuff to save precious shotgun ammo is definitely challenging, but bordering on annoying. I wish the berserk pack came sooner in the level.

[Anonymous No.5872017]

>>5872007
It's disgusting. I barely managed to beat it that way a couple of hours ago. No ammo, no health.

[Anonymous No.5872032]

>>5872007
Dunno. Most of Sigil was pretty forgettable to me.

[Anonymous No.5872040]

>>5872017
For me it basically turned into a game of "stunlock the shotgunners with your pistol and abuse cover, lad. And if you get hit you are better off restarting the map, because Romero's not gonna give you almost any shells or health". The most generous he gets is the rocket launcher secret, but the abundance of lost souls and tight spaces make the use of that very restricted

[Anonymous No.5872045]

>>5871986

half-life is the only good FPS

[Anonymous No.5872046]

>>5872032
Did you savescum

[Anonymous No.5872054]

>>5872046
No.

[Anonymous No.5872057]

>>5872054
Good

[Anonymous No.5872129]

>>5871634
>>5871781
monolingual americlaps pls

[Anonymous No.5872148]

if the dev didnt want you to savescum, they wouldnt have given you a save button

[Anonymous No.5872152]

>>5872148
Can't argue with your logic, friendo

[Anonymous No.5872156]

Lazy troll day, huh?

[Anonymous No.5872163]

>>5870645
Shit tier trolling.

[Anonymous No.5872171]

>>5868363
It does fix some stuff but it isn't enough to make the game bearable.

[Anonymous No.5872172]

>>5872163
>trolling
Nobody's going to be your bitch, Romero.

[Anonymous No.5872173]

>>5868763
>it isnt out yet
yeah it is in early access
>als it looks like another wolf-tier low-effort "we wanna do pixels" indieshit
considering you still play computer games that came out 20+ years ago, maybe you shoudn't be so judgemental about graphical quality

[Anonymous No.5872178]

>>5872007
Alright, I finally did it. Took me a while. Had to play it extra-safe.

[Anonymous No.5872180]

>>5872178
>Brandon's void
>there's no void
fuck off romerog doom

[Anonymous No.5872186]

How exactly is hurt floor damage applied in Doom? I used to think it was purely speed (the less time touching the lava/nukage/blood, the more likely it is you won't get damaged even once), but there have been many occasions now when I could've sworn I was slower than usual and didn't get hit, and other times when I got hit despite going very fast

[Anonymous No.5872191]

>>5872186
it's timed based on weapon sway or SOMETHING bizzare

[Anonymous No.5872206]

>>5872191
>based on weapon sway
you fucking what

>>5872186
floor damage ticks once every second
the timer starts on level start
once it ticks over, players standing on hurtfloors get damaged
standing on hurtfloors between these ticks inflicts no damage

[Anonymous No.5872243]

>>5872206
This constantly fucked me over in Quake since there the first tic of damage always happens the instant you touch the nukage so if you jump in it you will get hurt more frequently.
Serves me right for jumping in Doom I guess

[Anonymous No.5872290]

>>5872180
anon i think you might be dyslexic.

[Anonymous No.5872305]

>>5872129
Im from spain, perra, I'm versed in several languages, graf breaking shit forever is no worth your stupid moonlanguage runes.

[Anonymous No.5872318]

>>5872290
You need to go back to middle school and learn to capitalize.

[Anonymous No.5872319]

What could be the reason for a switch working properly, but not switching to its "on" texture?

[Anonymous No.5872363]

>>5872173
There's a difference between indie dev putting a spin on a tried and tested oldschool formula (Dusk, AE, IF)
And indieshit that is made just because dev lacked talent and decided that making an oldschool game requires less effort, so they end up halfassing every single aspect.
Hand made level design substituted with proc gen? Check.
Textures and prefabs made to lower standard than what it tries to emulate? Check.
Special effects and clutter "just because"? Also check.
And so on.

[Anonymous No.5872368]

>>5872319
Did you put the switch texture as middle?
Did you use custom texture?

[Anonymous No.5872375]

>>5872305
>I'm versed in several languages
Do you speak sense?

[Anonymous No.5872376]

>>5872368
No, it's lower, and also not a custom texture. Thanks, will try to make it a middle one.

[Anonymous No.5872380]

>>5871634
It had to be done because the classic font wouldn't support certain characters, and didn't play well with scaling either.

[Anonymous No.5872384]

>>5872380
that was not a problem for 25+ years of Doom

[Anonymous No.5872419]

>>5872186
Use the wiki. https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Damaging_floor

[Anonymous No.5872429]

There's nothing wrong with savescumming, that's a PC advantage consoles don't have.

[Anonymous No.5872434]

I have to say, MAP09 of Sigil is the best one of the set.

[Anonymous No.5872485]

>>5872429
Nooooo! You'll reach the same ends as me! It invalidates my no-save, fist-start, unbound-strafe-left, slamming-my-dick-in-a-drawer playstyle!

[Anonymous No.5872486]

>>5871598
There's an option for different fuzz effects and render styles for them under graphics somewhere.
Truth is though, it's kinda just in the original 320x240 resolution that the fuzz effect makes them really hard to see, they stand out much more at higher resolutions.

[Anonymous No.5872531]

>>5872486
I don't know about that. Depends on brightness and background. This stuff's pretty hard to see some times.

[Anonymous No.5872560]

>>5871776
>wake up
>yes increased dramatically
alright which country can we blame for this?

[Anonymous No.5872593]

>>5872560
>strawtroll
Doesn't really matter.

[Anonymous No.5872631]

>>5872531
What settings are you using there?

[Anonymous No.5872635]

>>5867539
I actually had a dream where part of it involved talk about how Blood 2 could have been good had Warner Bros. not interfered too much. We could have had a good canon sequel to Blood 1997.

[Anonymous No.5872642]

>>5871239
gs3 is cool and all but whatever happened to that vampire game he was making in gzdoom? the demo was fun

[Anonymous No.5872654]

>>5872631
Fuzz, lights set to Doom

[Anonymous No.5872669]

>>5872007
After leaving that first building, I couldn’t figure out how to progress in the level.

[Anonymous No.5872691]

Any good Doom mods that play with player movement and good maps to play them with?

[Anonymous No.5872712]

>>5872691
How extensive is movement customization in GZDoom anyway? I've heard of the one ZScript mod that replicates the movement style of various games including Dusk, but yeah I've always heard shitty things about Doom's player movement code.

[Anonymous No.5872846]

>>5872691
Demonsteele allows you to dash and double jump, scythe 2 is an amazing map to play with it. Play as the chick with the katana, not the robot chick.

[Anonymous No.5872847]

Is there a doom wad that's like Ghoul's Forest?

[Anonymous No.5872852]

>>5872847
Ghoul's Forest 2

[Anonymous No.5872853]

>>5872852
I mean a good one, not that jumpscare piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.5872856]

>>5872691
Hideous Destructor with mod-compatible Ashes map.

[Anonymous No.5872889]

>>5872853
You mean just general Doom horror wads? Like 5to2 or Happy Time Circus?

[Anonymous No.5872891]

>>5872889
My bad, I should've explained.
I meant forest maps. With really dense forest, full of gigantic trees.
I'm fucking sick of "scientific complex #14353" or "habitation block #666", I want some beautiful maps.

[Anonymous No.5873056]

>>5871623
Is there a way to change this back to how it used to look?

[Anonymous No.5873057]

>>5872891
like this?

[Anonymous No.5873060]

>>5872853
Ghoul's forest 3

[Anonymous No.5873073]

>>5872642
he's always made multiple projects at once. for example gs2 and castlevania were being made at the same time.

[Anonymous No.5873093]

Can someone please reupload best 100 wads? Both links are dead

[Anonymous No.5873097]

>>5872384
It was. Readability with certain backgrounds wasn't the best there is and everything was tiny.

[Anonymous No.5873108]

How do I stop GZdoom from putting itself on low cpu priority as soon I alt-tab, utterly ruining performances?
>Graf

[Anonymous No.5873121]

>>5873108
-noidle
Maybe.

[Anonymous No.5873142]

>>5873057
Ooh, yes. That kind of forest that reminds me of Thief's levels with the pagans : weird forests and strange groves.
I miss Ocarina of Time's Forest Temple. That shit was kino.

>>5873060
No, thank you.

[Anonymous No.5873161]

>>5873121
It actually worked. Thank you

[Anonymous No.5873205]

Not very retro, but it's Q3 engine, so...
Where do I get user levels for Jedi Outcast, Jedi Academy and RTCW?
Is there any centralised sites for those?

[Anonymous No.5873210]

>>5872712
you can disable and completely replace the movement code with whatever you like
look up Ijon's quake movement
it's literally Q1 source code ported to GZD
but there are still some physics/collision things not exposed to zscript
even though i've asked about them a year ago

[Anonymous No.5873226]

>>5868842
One is a 3D beat em up, one is a 2D side scroller beat em up.

[Anonymous No.5873236]

>>5873205
gamefront

[Anonymous No.5873253]

Why do they have a strawberry and a meatball in Doom

[Anonymous No.5873258]

So the shopkeeper is gonna have rare chance to pop in with other outfits than her defaults

Thinking she would always offer 4 items, one for ammo, one for health/repair, one for random weapon or if player has all weapons, random cloth, and one for random items all together

only problem is how to make her summonable, carryable item/ability for the players from start? some sort of random decoration replacing spawn for summon?

making shop mechanics is surprisingly haaard

[Anonymous No.5873270]

>>5873142
Also interested in forest themed wads

[Anonymous No.5873280]

>>5873258
*nuts on the counter and cash register*

[Anonymous No.5873287]

>>5873258
Inventory item that summons her once per level, after player kills at least half of the monsters
If kill count is too low she tells you that it's too dangerous in there for her to come out.

[Anonymous No.5873292]

>>5873226
in that case why not call Doom a 3D shoot em up too

[Anonymous No.5873302]

why are plutonia's maps so much better than Doom II's?

[Anonymous No.5873304]

>>5873292
I do

[Anonymous No.5873310]

>can't justify using freelook because Plutonia's maps were clearly designed with the limitation in mind
fuck

[Anonymous No.5873316]

>>5873292
>theres an alternate universe where the term "first person shooter" doesn't exist
>instead they're called "3D Shmups" or "3DS"

[Anonymous No.5873320]

>>5873310
>ever using freelook with vanilla gameplay
I always thought it feels like total shit. You have a monstrous autoaim anyway and there's no localized damage so what's the point? The gameplay just lose it's "magic"
Like I'm on D4V right now and I keep it off. And it feels goood.
To me it was always a feature support made for gameplay mods exclusively and I'm glad even a sourceport like gzdoom start with it disabled by default.

[Anonymous No.5873331]

>>5873292
Because Doom isnt 3D

[Anonymous No.5873335]

>>5873270
>>5873142
Ghoul 4: The Fuckening

[Anonymous No.5873348]

I can't wait for the Doom eternal mods.

[Anonymous No.5873352]

>>5873331
>he believes ecelebs that were proven wrong about everything

[Anonymous No.5873357]

>>5873335

[Anonymous No.5873362]

>>5873357
perfect

[Anonymous No.5873390]

quick rundown on the best way to play Hideous Destructor?

[Anonymous No.5873420]

>>5873205
those are some goodass textures.

[Anonymous No.5873426]

>>5873292
>implying doom 2 on uv isn't considered the first western bullethell

[Anonymous No.5873438]

>>5873352
Can I get a quick rundown?

[Anonymous No.5873440]

>>5868872
Yes, a ton of shit is scanned and archived, look harder dumbass

[Anonymous No.5873447]

>>5873348
Anon I...

[Anonymous No.5873449]

>>5873440
mean but after this passive aggressive reply >>5869465 he kind of deserves it

[Anonymous No.5873452]

>>5873447
did I miss something bad?

[Anonymous No.5873464]

>>5873390
Are you looking for just how to get into it or like, the "optimal" playstyle or something? For the former, I'd say just dive into E1 on HMP. Play the last stable release, not the current master version because bullets are undergoing a major rewrite so damage is all kinds of fucked up.

As far as playstyle goes, "best" would be really hard to define, but speaking as the person who beat Valiant, Going Down, and Alien Vendetta, some things my loadouts always carry are at least one boss killer, one berserk pack, armor, and a medikit. I'd say those are the things you should never leave home without, no matter what else you want to use.

[Anonymous No.5873485]

>>5868892

Just include a sprite editor in your mod

[Anonymous No.5873506]

>original doom soundtrack
>"heaven or hell, let's rock"
>playstation doom soundtrack
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FmWSy1tdV0
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.5873513]

>>5873452
https://www.gameinformer.com/preview/2019/06/14/id-talks-mod-support-integrating-more-traversal-and-the-controversial-neon-ui

Old article from a few months back, but don't worry anon. No mods at launch but it's a long term project that id's considering it.

[Anonymous No.5873518]

>>5873438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb6Eo1D6VW8
literally every singe thing in that video is factually and verifiably wrong
yet retards perpetuate it ad nauseam

[Anonymous No.5873523]

>>5873518
No giving that faggot a view. Retards who feel the need to write their video titles in Caps Lock don't deserve money.

[Anonymous No.5873537]

>>5873518
LMAO about 95% of the comments to the video are about this guy offing himself, the other 5% are about how wrong this video is

[Anonymous No.5873539]

>>5873464
Thanks, also I was wondering which mods are important to get but I'll play around with just the main mod first.

[Anonymous No.5873548]

>>5873539
You definitely want to get a grip of the base game before adding any submods. There's a lot more to learn than most Doom mods. Homely difficulty is also a good choice for getting started. It reduces damage taken to 30% and disables bleeding, but still has UV spawns so it's optimal for learning how to fight with the new weapons and enemies.

[Anonymous No.5873572]

>>5873523
>not using adblock to avoid giving anyone free money

[Anonymous No.5873585]

>>5873572
still gives them views, which will make utub promote it more, thus giving them more money
you want something gone, give it total oblivion

[Anonymous No.5873591]

>>5873513
That just means its never going to fucking happen. "its a long term project" used to be what games always promised about 10 years ago when suddenly there was zero mod support

[Anonymous No.5873592]

Is the best Duke intereaction getting on the scanner printer and Duke scanning his ass?

[Anonymous No.5873595]

>>5873592
wait what

[Anonymous No.5873612]

>>5873592
no, its a triple titslap

[Anonymous No.5873613]

>>5873518
>The Game Theorists
Yikes, you coulda warned me

[Anonymous No.5873615]

>>5873548
Thanks, feel already overwhelming desu, and freelook doesn't even want to work

[Anonymous No.5873618]

>>5873518
>the guy in this video committed suicide
Sad, but understandable considering the shame of being so wrong

[Anonymous No.5873650]

Quake blows

[Anonymous No.5873657]

>>5873650
It blows me.

[Bullpup Hater No.5873793]

>>5873591
Examples of supposed games please.

[Anonymous No.5873812]

>>5873650
but not you

[Anonymous No.5873819]

It was time for me to take up the mantle and make a new thread...
And I fudged it up several times in a row lol
Anyway...

NEW THREAD >>5873814

[Anonymous No.5873820]

>>5873650
It was the best blow of my life.

[Anonymous No.5873879]

>>5873819
I sure as fuck hope I didnt fuck up anything else this time
Where's the usual thread guys?


NEW THREAD >>5873871
NEW THREAD >>5873871
NEW THREAD >>5873871
NEW THREAD >>5873871
NEW THREAD >>5873871
NEW THREAD >>5873871

[Anonymous No.5873930]

>>5873650
...modern FPS games out of the water!

[Anonymous No.5874091]

>>5873253
By Shores of Hell, Doomguy has been killing demons for some long that he starts seeing demons as meatballs and strawberries because he's hungry.

[Anonymous No.5874227]

>>5873618
Or maybe its because he worked with Matpat

[Anonymous No.5874361]

>>5873650
>Quake blows

[Anonymous No.5874376]

>>5874361
Cope.

[Anonymous No.5874378]

>"Cope."

[Anonymous No.5874405]

Quaketrannies...