What /vr/ thinks about Daggerfall Unity?

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What /vr/ thinks about Daggerfall Unity? Anonymous Thu Sep 5 09:39:19 2019 No.5861856 [Reply] [Original]

>Good or bad?

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>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 5 09:49:58 2019 No.5861867 It's great I play it in retro mode with the quest pack mod. Next update will bring back the OG hud.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 5 10:03:10 2019 No.5861886 >>5861867 Official website: https://www.dfworkshop.net/

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 5 10:14:55 2019 No.5861903 >>5861886 Ted Peterson is actually writing some books to be used ingame in DF Unity.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 5 15:16:12 2019 No.5862404 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOoDVN-r_sA

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 5 15:26:48 2019 No.5862428 >>5862404 There any rape mods yet? I can't be properly immersed in an Elder Scrolls game without my rape mods.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 5 15:35:13 2019 No.5862447 >>5861903 is that the dude responsible for all the batshit lore in morrowind or am I misremembering things?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 5 15:39:35 2019 No.5862465 >>5862404 all of this really highlights what modern technical magic can bring to retro gaming

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 5 15:41:03 2019 No.5862468 >>5862447 You're thinking of Michael Kirkbride

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 5 16:52:48 2019 No.5862631 >>5862404 Thank you so much bro, it was exactly the kind of answer I was searchig for.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 5 16:59:05 2019 No.5862643 a game where the same journey between two places can be completely different each time you travel cause its randomly generated is fucking shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 5 17:20:45 2019 No.5862696 >>5862643 I thought it was set in stone (though the world was randomly generated).

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 5 17:32:56 2019 No.5862727 >>5862696 thats what I mean the towns are in the same spot but next time you go to one city from another there may be a big fucking swamp in your way, way to just kill any immersion I had bethesda

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 5 17:45:20 2019 No.5862748 >>5862727 Bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 5 21:28:01 2019 No.5863165 >>5862428 Someone is working on a prostitution mod actually. and it was planned in the game from the start

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 5 21:30:25 2019 No.5863169 >>5862447 No he's responsible for the pocket guide of the empire and stuff like the vampire clans, daedric gods, the usurper lore.

Anonymous Fri Sep 6 04:40:00 2019 No.5863643

>>5862696

It is, the guy doesn't know what he's talking about. World in Daggerfall was procedurally generated once (is not being generated every time you start the game or anything) and it is the same for every player. Only quests and some of npcs are random.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 13:46:41 2019 No.5864324 When are they fixing the transparency for ghosts and wraiths? They're not very intimidating when you can't see their red eyes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 14:01:40 2019 No.5864354 >>5863643 >some of the NPCs Most of them (being general citizen filler of course)

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 14:29:38 2019 No.5864446 File: 129 KB, 300x300, 1452161125531.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5862428 >>5863165 >dude porn mods in my d&d fantasy life simulator lmao

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 14:33:45 2019 No.5864459 >>5864446 nothing wrong with a bit of tiddy in your sword and sorcery game

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 11:20:10 2019 No.5866207 https://www.dfworkshop.net/september-builds-0-10-6/ New build for DF Unity

Anonymous Sat Sep 7 18:58:36 2019 No.5866860

>>5863169
To be clear Ted Peterson did the 3E pocket guide for Oblivion in 2006. The original Pocket Guide in 1998 was Kirkbride, which is probably who >>5862447 was thinking of.
Nevertheless Ted Peterson is the best possible person you could have do this because he's the guy who wrote most of Daggerfall's books and quests to begin with, and a ton of other books in Morrowind and Oblivion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 19:07:35 2019 No.5866874 >>5864446 Todd said he still has the porn scenes that got cut from Daggerfall. If anything that feature should be considered a restoration.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 06:18:20 2019 No.5867810 >>5864446 well you can have in real life right,so it would be even more immersive

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 17:38:52 2019 No.5868795 File: 2.90 MB, 640x480, Expand scrolls.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5867810 Immersion is important

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 17:45:46 2019 No.5868813 >>5868795 What I love so much about those dungeon is that they feel like a survival horror game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 17:50:38 2019 No.5868817 >>5861903 Any relation to Sandy Peterson of Doom and DnD?

Anonymous Sun Sep 8 18:46:41 2019 No.5868949

>>5868817
No, but here's an interesting bit of info from Julian LeFay.

>I might have mentioned the following in the interview, not sure and I didn't watch it, but it bears repeating. I was on a panel (at GDC many years ago) on role-playing games along with Sandy Petersen (Chaosium, Microprose, id Software, Ensemble) and he said something very interesting, that "the best computer role-playing game you'll ever play is about as good as the worst pen-and-paper RPG session." The reverse of that was the definition of what Daggerfall aimed to accomplish, well, maybe not quite that extreme, but at least bring the two to an even plane.

Anonymous Sun Sep 8 18:56:59 2019 No.5868983

>>5868949
Dwarf Fortress and SS13 have helped level that playing field by quite a lot, especially since SS13 is text-based in terms of feedback and talking to other players.
The stuff that come out of both are just as insane as the average /tg/ story thread (e.g. The Robutticists)

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 19:00:48 2019 No.5868995 >>5868813 i love how they're absurdly gigantic labyrinths impossible to navigate the first time you explore them

Anonymous Sun Sep 8 19:04:21 2019 No.5869007

>>5868983
I cut it off but he also said this:
>With that in mind, I think that Daggerfall moved well along in trying to achieve that goal, but still fell well short of getting there. As a stepping stone on that path, however, it showed that that goal is achievable and, frankly, I'm surprised that no one has tried moving the bar in all the years that have passed. So many things that could be done with proper knowledge of various techniques, unknown to me at that time, now so familiar: finite automata, CFG, machine learning, feature detection, and many many others. Obviously, I haven't played any games that try to accomplish what Daggerfall did. They might be out there but I don't know of any. That being said, I have played some truly excellent CRPGs, my favorite being Witcher III, which was a fantastic game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 21:26:38 2019 No.5869326 To this very day, Daggerfal still have the biggest map in video game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 21:30:09 2019 No.5869337 >>5869326 if only that meant something

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 21:38:21 2019 No.5869356 Even if the content and quality is not relevant for today standards, I do think is a nice exploit, especially for such an old game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 00:29:13 2019 No.5869702 >>5869326 Procedural space sims had trillions of planets in a couple of kB. It’s very easy to go larger than daggerfall

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:26:57 2019 No.5870024 >>5869702 I think even non procedural space games are technically larger than Daggerfall. Its basically cheating.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:35:34 2019 No.5870029 File: 842 KB, 1440x1003, 9-1566491525-1340790075.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Soul\|Soulless

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:55:37 2019 No.5870046 >>5870029 Why?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 09:19:51 2019 No.5870238 >>5870029 Fortunately that's from a mod, so it's nothing mandatory.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 09:22:26 2019 No.5870243 >>5870238 Can you toggle mods at your convenience in Daggerfall Unity?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 09:55:29 2019 No.5870286 >>5870243 Not in realtime, but you can disable mods in your load order at startup.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 09:58:54 2019 No.5870294 >>5870286 According to you, what are the real problems of Daggerfall?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 10:01:07 2019 No.5870295 Was anything released similar to Daggerfall at the time of Daggerfall? I just can't into Daggerfall.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 10:05:38 2019 No.5870298 >>5870294 the entire game

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 10:15:05 2019 No.5870312 Haters out

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 10:17:40 2019 No.5870315 >>5870312 daggerfall is a fundamentally flawed game.

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 10:25:24 2019 No.5870321

What I like about Daggerfall:

>Dungeon that have a survival horror feeling
>The sprite are very cool (the bow sprite so cool)
>The nudity and sexy pixelated women
>The horse and the cart to carry all your junks from Dungeon

What I don't like:
>The game lack of good quests
>Small variety of NPC
>Need to modernize some Inventory managment, menus, etc

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 10:28:21 2019 No.5870330 >>5870321 >muh tiddies the average daggerfall player, everyone

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 10:37:52 2019 No.5870346 You really have a feeling od old School DD in Daggerfall that I don't find anywhere else.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 10:48:38 2019 No.5870359 https://www.nexusmods.com/daggerfallunity/mods/15

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 10:50:30 2019 No.5870363 >>5870312 don't reply to retards/children anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 11:05:06 2019 No.5870376 >>5870359 >https://www.nexusmods.com/daggerfallunity/mods/15 Nice mod but break realism, especially beacause you can buy it and not winning it after a long hard quest.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 11:10:38 2019 No.5870383 >>5870376 Redguard had airships.

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 11:26:28 2019 No.5870410

>>5870294
I liked it a lot at the time and still find it charming. The main problem has always been that the modular dungeon sections become highly repetitive over time. In general a little more story in the sandbox would've been nice.

I still consider it one of the 'comfiest' games ever made though. I'm keeping an eye on the unity project because there are a few simple mods (use of slightly higher res sprites that were included with the game but not used, persistent dungeon states, birds) that add nice details without ruining the vanilla experience.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 12:16:50 2019 No.5870512 >>5870410 I agree, it is a very comfy game.

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 12:55:39 2019 No.5870584

>>5870294
Dungeons get very messy and samey, and the fact that they're randomly made (except main quest dungeons) means that finding quest items becomes more of a matter of luck, as there's no obvious "this is the end of the dungeon, here's the item you need"
Also the only way to find dungeons is either through random quests or wandering the absolutely barren overworld. Some mods are trying to make overworld travel a little more interesting but I haven't tried any.
I still like it though, even if it's a bit frustrating to actually play

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 13:35:08 2019 No.5870647

>>5870584
That's not how it works. The quest item locations will always be in the same location. What they did was design each block by hand, adding things like teleporters, secret walls, etc, then added connection points so that they could be pieced together.

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 13:35:24 2019 No.5870650

>>5870584
>and the fact that they're randomly made (except main quest dungeons) means that finding quest items becomes more of a matter of luck
Once you've played enough dungeons you start noticing that dungeons follow a set number of patterns. This is good and bad, on the good side you can indeed eventually learn where the quest items spawn and in some of them they're even placed at the end of some obvious challenge or puzzle, like the rooms underneath the hollow pyramid or the red brick loop with the trap door.

The bad side of course is that this means they get even more repetitive than if they were truly randomly generated as in a roguelike. Rather than random maze of rooms and hallways DF dungeons are more like a handful (at most) of random sub-dungeons plopped next to each other edge-to-edge, and once you are familiar with those dungeons you know all the "random" dungeons in the game more or less.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 15:48:43 2019 No.5870882 >>5870295 >*scratches head >>5870363

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 16:40:38 2019 No.5871026 File: 420 KB, 1920x1080, unknown.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's your favorite province? For me, It's the Alik'r Desert.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 16:46:17 2019 No.5871047 >>5871026 dude that's comfy

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 16:51:32 2019 No.5871059 >>5861856 That archer, it's so cool

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 17:00:49 2019 No.5871086 File: 509 KB, 1920x1080, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5871047 the whole game is

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 17:04:21 2019 No.5871101 >>5871086 I bet that town square has mosquitoes

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 17:57:08 2019 No.5871271 >>5871101 even worse, it has ghosts

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 22:00:31 2019 No.5871675 File: 319 KB, 1920x1080, unknown.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5871086

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 22:18:34 2019 No.5871716 File: 1007 KB, 960x540, king of worms.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 22:23:51 2019 No.5871726 >using a spyware engine Unfortunate. No sane person should ever use Unity for development; it not only spies on them but the people who play the game you make as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 22:25:31 2019 No.5871731 >>5871726 and you managed to gleam that by looking at their source code i'm sure

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 22:25:43 2019 No.5871732 >>5871726 I was going to play a unity made game yesterday and wondered why my antivirus quarantined the file. Thanks for the head up anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 22:31:41 2019 No.5871748 >>5871731 Read their license agreement, dumbfuck. They SPECIFICALLY state that if you use their software or run a game with their engine, they can and will collect personal data from you and send it to Unity. Holy fuck, you kids are dense.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 22:36:10 2019 No.5871760 >>5871748 oh noes muh game data feel free to fork daggerxl since you're some sort of tech expert then

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 22:38:53 2019 No.5871768

>>5871760
I cannot underfuckingstand how the living hell people are so fucking ignorant and don't give a living shit about all the fucking spyware shit that's going on all around them. You people use shitty spyware programs, you fucking use a fucking spyware OS, you use FUCKING PHONES THAT LITERALLY TRACK YOU EVERYWHERE YOU GO, and this doesn't concern you a fucking bit, probably because you believe in the fallacy of "nothing to hide" (go search that and read how fucking wrong you are).
This is goddamn insane. Insane. Modern society has really screwed everything over.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 22:41:04 2019 No.5871773 >>5871271 I thought you said worse evil spirits will be the new pet rocks >>5871726 >>5871748 it's not such a bad thing

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 22:42:01 2019 No.5871775 >>5871768 lol tell me more about how you live off the grid while posting on 4chan

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 22:44:07 2019 No.5871783 >>5871768 Bill Burr is that you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 01:05:38 2019 No.5872018 >>5870330 >the average elder scrolls player ftfy

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 01:46:31 2019 No.5872107 >>5871775 is that guy joking

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 01:53:11 2019 No.5872114 >>5861856 Love it. Daggerfall unity is fucking awesome.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 01:56:00 2019 No.5872119 >>5862727 I thought once terrain was randomly generated it stays that way in like a cache.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 01:59:18 2019 No.5872124 >>5868983 Ss13 is fucking great.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 02:01:27 2019 No.5872127 >>5868995 Some of the craziest dungeon crawls ive ever done were in daggerfall.

Anonymous Tue Sep 10 02:02:03 2019 No.5872130

>>5861856
Can someone give me the run down on where to get this, where to get the mods, any info I need to get it all set up right?

>Just google it!

I'm always wary of mods / total conversions / etc because half the time the documentation is so shitty and the files you need are all over the place and it can be a pain in the ass just to find what you need to get it running. Very rarely is there a competent readme file or guide. It's why I'm so hesitant to try anything like this despite how cool it looks. Many times in the past I've spent hours trying to get some fan project or mod to work and a lot of the time it never does.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 02:02:37 2019 No.5872131 >>5869326 Elite frontier is extremely larger than daggerfall.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 02:04:29 2019 No.5872136 >>5872119 Terrain isn't randomly generated. >>5872130 Google daggerfall unity and follow the install guide there. I use Warm Ashes and Quest Pack 1.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 04:00:01 2019 No.5872259 >>5871748 If you use a firewall that requires your manual approval for connections, this sort of stuff isn't much of a concern. I'll just deny it, and I'm sure the game will still run.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 04:06:54 2019 No.5872268 >>5872119 Everybody misunderstands the way daggerfall works. All the terrain is the same for every player. The landmass wasn't placed it was generated from parameters in order to be as big as it is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 15:17:36 2019 No.5873252 >Can someone explain clearly how Daggerfall terrains and dungeons works? >Everything it's procedural?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 15:20:54 2019 No.5873260 >>5873252 https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Dungeons

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 05:28:22 2019 No.5874609 it is too tempting, I am going to ^play DAggerfall Unity. >Your best mods pealse

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 10:04:21 2019 No.5874804 >>5870294 bugged dungeons game gets repetitive and you realize there's not a lot going on after 15-20h of gameplay

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 10:05:56 2019 No.5874807 >>5871768 I cannot understand how /g/ fags are so retarded they actually think every closed source thing is some big NSA conspiracy. Just run wireshark on your network card: WOW THERE'S FUCKING NOTHING!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 10:12:17 2019 No.5874819 >>5866874 >Believing Toddler Coward's sweet little lies. >Fleetwood-Mac.mp3

Anonymous Wed Sep 11 10:22:49 2019 No.5874830

>>5871768
Lol at everyone raging at you for stating truths and understanding the importance of privacy and freedom. I guess they are young and are naive about this things. They can't possibly imagine slipping into some controlled state in which all your movements are recorded. Suddenly then they wont like it and cry out when they were the cause of it.

It's like all the idiots who said only conspiracy nuts believe tv's with built in cameras were spying on you or google products recording your voice and it turns out it was all true.

I have a separate pc for gaming, not connected to the net or anything.

I also use Tails OS online.

My business is my business.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 12:11:41 2019 No.5875012 >>5874804 the dungeons work fine (except for one specific block piece which is somewhat rare and should hopefully be getting fixed soon), the bugginess comes from the quest system which is getting worked on in DF Unity

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 12:15:38 2019 No.5875023 >>5874609 https://forums.dfworkshop.net/viewtopic.php?t=1087 https://forums.dfworkshop.net/viewtopic.php?t=924

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 12:19:20 2019 No.5875027 >>5874807 Just because I'm paranoid doesnt mean I'm wrong. https://www.networkworld.com/article/3099092/the-cia-nsa-and-pokmon-go.html

Anonymous Wed Sep 11 12:44:50 2019 No.5875069

>>5875012
Block W-18 right? It's used in 127 dungeons across 31 (of 44) regions including 8 in Daggerfall, 1 in Sentinel, and 7 in Wayrest so you are likely to run into it once or twice in a playthrough unless you skip most dungeon quests. Though even when you end up in one of the broken dungeons there's still a chance your quest item spawns in the accessible part so it might not break your quest every time.
So yeah you'll probably run into broken quests more often than broken dungeons. But the fact that you can run into either is disheartening and discourages rigorous play when you can't even be sure that it's possible to succeed.

Speaking of the broken quests, for anyone looking to get into the game: make sure you grab the DaggerfallSetup installer just like you would have before DFU came around. Then point DFU to that install. You want all the quest fixes it includes since there were still a lot of bugged quests even in the fully patched version of the vanilla game. If you just install regular ol' Daggerfall from Bethesda or GOG or whatever you won't have the fixes even if you're using DFU.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 14:06:14 2019 No.5875225 >>5868949 >"the best computer role-playing game you'll ever play is about as good as the worst pen-and-paper RPG session." Fa/tg/uy here, this is absolute bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 14:32:43 2019 No.5875296 >>5875225 that quote predates critical role and other modern pnp faggotry

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 14:38:58 2019 No.5875315 >>5875296 >muh cwiticul wole Know what's older than that? "No game is better than a bad game"

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 14:41:50 2019 No.5875324 >>5875296 There is a lot of possibilities for absolutely nightmare shit table top rpg. The best solution is to leave.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 16:00:43 2019 No.5875462 >>5874830 Hi anon, what's is your privacy setup please?

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>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 22:50:44 2019 No.5876357 >>5874830 >I am a pedophile Oh, okay then anon.

Anonymous Thu Sep 12 06:21:10 2019 No.5877048

>>5873252
Who are you quoting, newfag retard?
>>5861856
Daggerfall in its current state is shit because it has a ton of problems and bugs. Sadly, it won't get any better because all the mods are gonna be about porn instead of game fixes.
Albion came out at around the same time and is better in almost every way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 10:05:08 2019 No.5877334 >>5877048 albion is trash bro

Anonymous Thu Sep 12 14:08:33 2019 No.5877786

>>5874830
>Patriot act
>All modern CPU's have built in backdoors
>Thinks a couple gimmicks is going to prevent big daddy total information awareness from knowing him better than he knows himself

Best way to have "privacy and freedom" is to understand you have no expectation of either and to not indulge in behavior that would make you a target to begin with

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 14:40:28 2019 No.5877832 >>5877786 Haha, remember when people said you were just being paranoid, then IME was published along with the NSA toolset? And now everyone forgot about that too? Good times.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 15:13:48 2019 No.5877875 >>5877334 Fuck you asshole

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 15:31:24 2019 No.5877903 >>5866874 >muh porn the average daggerfall player everyone

Anonymous Thu Sep 12 15:49:59 2019 No.5877939

>>5877048
>>5877875
Most mods are game fixes like having random encounters in taverns or outside of fortresses or the quest pack that triples the amount of quests in the game so you don't have to do/keep rejecting mummy wrappings quests. If you're a massive faggot you can even make the dungeons smaller but at that point why are you playing Daggerfall.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 15:51:15 2019 No.5877942 >>5877939 Fuck you asshole

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 15:52:04 2019 No.5877945 File: 1.07 MB, 1920x1080, 1568317924866.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5877942

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 18:18:01 2019 No.5878216 >>5871726 Oh no they gonna find my trans porn and memes

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 18:27:23 2019 No.5878232 >>5878216 What could people want to get away with that they don't feel safe with gubmin watching? Do you live in communist china? lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 20:26:54 2019 No.5878473 >>5878216 >I get off from being exposed - the post Don't project your shitty kink on all of us, exhibitionist tranny.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 20:39:30 2019 No.5878493 File: 509 KB, 1920x1080, ultima.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is Ultima Underworld II superior to daggerfall?

>>	Princess Sevenleaf !IT2uZpX.Ic Thu Sep 12 20:47:56 2019 No.5878507 >>5878473 >exhibitionist tranny Hey, keep me out of this! :s

Anonymous Thu Sep 12 20:51:40 2019 No.5878510

Guys, I feel two camps are fighting:

>I don't care, I have nothing to hide
>Quick let's wrap our heads with aluminum

I think the second team it's right. Would you accept someone on your living room watching you silently/24h? We live under the exact same situation, expect that only the guy in your living room is invisible but still here.

I wonder if Microsoft Word send your texts to Microsoft or if Photoshop makes screenshots of your viewport and send it to Adobe.

All Intel's processors have a backdoor chip made from Israel. It's not some conspiracy theory it is well known.

AMD same thing but with Chinese (at least we can choose from who we would be fucked).

I have some questions about how to set a total privacy/security and anonimate environment.

>Some anon here would follow me if I open a thread on /pol/?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 20:58:01 2019 No.5878518 >>5878493 very different games despite both being first person

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 21:02:38 2019 No.5878527 >>5878518 But overall, superior, yeah?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 21:05:09 2019 No.5878529 >>5878527 i prefer daggerfall's scope but ultima underworld handles simulation better

Anonymous Thu Sep 12 21:09:54 2019 No.5878536

>dungeons are too fucking massive and cryptic >a single fetch quest can take 5 hours for little reward
>some quests are literally impossible because of bugs
>game frequently crashes
>virtually nothing is hand-crafted and the game feels like every city, dungeon and landscape is the same
>the world is massive but there is no point of not fast travelling everyehere because you get no reward for exploring
It sucks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 22:34:20 2019 No.5878728 >>5878536 this

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 23:07:33 2019 No.5878809 >>5870294 Quests don't work. Dungeons are fun at first but once you realize they are all cobbled together pieces of shit the novelty wears off. World is huge but empty. NPCs are dull. Most skills are useless.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 02:22:08 2019 No.5879208 >>5878510 Conspiracy theorists prefer tin foil to aluminum because tin foil reflects radiation much better. Just letting you know.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 15:58:06 2019 No.5880289 >>5878536 wayrest, daggerfall, and sentinel all feel very distinct

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 14:57:51 2019 No.5882492 Beep

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 17:32:00 2019 No.5882773 Ja, very gud

Anonymous Sat Sep 14 19:40:16 2019 No.5883103

>>5878510
(1) AMD chips aren't made in China.
(2) It's clear that our information is being captured. It isn't clear that it's actively monitored. It also isn't clear how to avoid it, short of not having a cell phone and not using the Internet, and staying away from modern devices. What can we do?

I use open source stuff when available, keep amazon echo/google home/apple home/etc out of my house, host my own files locally, and encrypt my traffic as a default, but at a certain point we also just need to live our lives.

At some point maybe I'll be able to afford a plot of land in some out of the way place where I can build a cabin and live off-grid, but until then, what do I do beyond what I'm doing? And even when I do get there, I'm still going to want to use the Internet.

The NSA already won. Unless something takes out their massive data collection facilities in utah which are all more secure than nuclear powerplants, I don't know that anything will ever change.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 15 00:04:52 2019 No.5883513 >>5861856 I haven't checked up on this in a long time. Does it fix the bugs and what not of the original game? What mods are best for balance etc?

Anonymous Sun Sep 15 01:13:59 2019 No.5883624

>>5861856
I spent the day playing the basic DaggerfallSetup + Daggerfall Unity with all the fixes/community patches enabled.

I like it. I do understand why some people wouldn't dig this. The smallest town in ES:II Daggerfall is larger than the largest city in ES:V Skyrim. But of course, most towns seem the same. There are only so many character models. Only so much dialogue.

But I don't know. The world of Skyrim felt so small to me. They say that in game Skyrim translates to 14 square miles. Daggerfall is 62,324 square miles.

So there's this problem where Skyrim is too small. But Daggerfall is too big and samey. I don't know what would be a good balance.

I'm really enjoying Unity Daggerfall though. I might have to turn on the "mouse click to attack" setting though... Having to swoosh my mouse around is very cumbersome and I can't seem to get good at it...

It took me a few hours just to get past the first dungeon. The game manual specifically states that it wishes you wouldn't save every 5 seconds because some of the magic of the game is lost. How could you NOT save every 5 seconds in this game? I have to save after every single monster fight in this game. It's so easy to die. My guy has already died a hundred times probably.

The dungeons are gigantic. Claustrophobic. I get worried I won't be able to find my way out. The 3D map helps a lot but it can be a bit cumbersome to use.

Overall I'm very glad I checked this out. I'm really liking it and I think Unity breathes life back into this game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 15 02:18:26 2019 No.5883694 >>5883624 Something I'm confused by. Did Dagerfall originally have rolling hills and stuff like that? Or is that a Unity addition? In original Daggerfall was the entirety of the map flat?

Anonymous Sun Sep 15 02:24:14 2019 No.5883697

>>5883694
Rolling hills is a Unity addition. Vanilla Daggerfall was pretty flat, but it wasn't totally so; the terrain did vary in height according to a global heightmap and a noise filter, but it was much more subtle than how Unity does it and didn't look so good with high view distances.
There were some fun anomalies in vanilla though if you go looking for them like there's a big gash on the far east side of the Wrothgarian Mountains and a "mountain" (sudden steep incline in elevation) in... I forget the exact location but think it was somewhere between Tigonus and Sentinel.

Anonymous Sun Sep 15 02:26:25 2019 No.5883698

>>5883103
you just go on a list and be monitored by drone and satellite, stop being such a recluse
>>5883624
>Skyrim translates to 14 square miles. Daggerfall is 62,324 square miles
Yeah but which one feels better? Do they evoke different feelings?
>>It took me a few hours just to get past the first dungeon.
Surely not where you started, where the game began? It's a twenty-thirty minute challenge lol.
>>The game manual specifically states that it wishes you wouldn't save every 5 seconds because some of the magic of the game is lost. How could you NOT save every 5 seconds in this game?
Overkill, save scumming does remove the tension that oldschool dungeon crawlers evoke. Maybe save every 30 minutes to an hour?
>>5883694
Everything is flat in OG, did unity really liven up the landscape? hell yea

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 15 11:41:06 2019 No.5884197 >>5883624 learn to mark areas you haven't explored on the map you can also change the pivot point on the map for rotating

Anonymous Sun Sep 15 11:50:34 2019 No.5884215

>>5883624
Get the quest pack off the website and warm ashes. Talking to NPCs is strictly for getting information/directions and all meaningful dialogue will be in the text boxes with yellow font. Join the mages guild to make your own spells and later on enchanting.

Anonymous Sun Sep 15 13:23:37 2019 No.5884330

>>5883698
>Surely not where you started, where the game began? It's a twenty-thirty minute challenge lol.

My issue was I didn't know how the character creation worked and how the game is balanced.

I didn't realize you HAVE to start the game with a weapon you are proficient with.

So I'd start out with the sword you get in the beginning, but I wasn't proficient with it, couldn't hit anything, died.

Eventually I realized that you can use those 15 questions they ask you to start out with a good weapon. Finally I started out with a weapon I had expertise in and then it wasn't too bad. I still died a lot though.

I mean jesus. Those little flying gargoyle goblin things can one shot you with their fireball.

>Maybe save every 30 minutes?

I would be replaying the same 30 minutes over and over again. Sometimes I'm fighting skeletons and I don't even get hit. Other times I can't hit the skeleton at all and they kill me in 3 hits. Game is brutal.

Anonymous Sun Sep 15 13:29:55 2019 No.5884340

>>5884330
Generally you want to crank up your strength and speed at the beginning of character creation for faster and harder hitting swings. Also crank up your HP on level up since it's not D&D and 8HP on level up is shit. Learn to use the advantages and disadvantages to make a strong but interesting character as well.

Anonymous Sun Sep 15 15:24:47 2019 No.5884553

>>5884340
Some of the interesting advantages/disadvantages aren't well explained.

I was playing an Argonian. I figured giving him the ability to regenerate health in light would make sense for a lizard. But what counts as light? Do they mean SUNLIGHT? Cause it didn't work in lit rooms. Would "regenerate health in darkness" work inside buildings, even though there's artificial light? Does "regenerate health in light" only work in sunlight, and "regenerate health in darkness" only work in pitch blackness?

Anonymous Sun Sep 15 16:00:49 2019 No.5884623

>>5884553
Yes, they meant sunlight while darkness will pretty much apply to all dungeons as far as I know. You can apply this to enchantments as well to make specific dungeon crawling gear with major bonuses that disintegrate when worn outside. The UESP wiki should help you out just keep in mind the bugs and exploits were fixed in Unity and dodging no longer decreases your chance to hit.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:ClassMaker

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 00:06:22 2019 No.5885515

>>5884553
Light means "outside during day", darkness means everywhere else.
You typically spend 90% of your game time and 99.9% of your combat time in what the game considers "Darkness".
Even the brightest environment in the entire game, that huge lava room with the Blind God in the final dungeon, is in darkness as far as game mechanics go.

Also "in holy places" just means in Temples and it's basically free points for disadvantages and enchanting. Always enchant everything to damage you and deteriorate in holy places if you want to maximize their usefulness. If you're fast you won't even need to unequip them when you enter because it takes a while to start and time is paused in dialogue. The only time you'd ever need to spend more than a few seconds in a Temple is if you're using a trainer in one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 00:46:50 2019 No.5885565 >>5883624 Did you try the mods that add more variety to townsfolk and encounters?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 11:48:23 2019 No.5886329 >>5877334 It's better than Daggerfall in every way. A ton of games are better. Daggerfall is a piece of shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 16:46:50 2019 No.5886823 >>5861856 I'm not a fan of the graphical changes but it'll eventually be my preferred way of playing Daggerfall.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 17:01:25 2019 No.5886846 File: 1.20 MB, 3840x2160, EDRjWcSXoAAU6sb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5886823 Old HUD soon friend.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 17:17:30 2019 No.5886864 >>5877048 >it's this faggot again who claims all daggerfall mods are going to be porn despite the fact that there are already several quest and gameplay enhancing mods and 0 (ZERO) lewd mods

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 17:20:28 2019 No.5886869 >>5886864 >0 lewd mods What a failure of an elder scrolls game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 17:25:00 2019 No.5886880 >>5886869 why would a game loaded with nude babes need lewd mods?

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 17:31:15 2019 No.5886891

>>5883698
>>Skyrim translates to 14 square miles. Daggerfall is 62,324 square miles
>Yeah but which one feels better? Do they evoke different feelings?
To me the world in Daggerfall feels really magical because it's so real. When I explore in Skyrim I'm so aware that every centimetre of the world has been assembled by a dev team and honestly it doesn't feel realistic at all. Everything is so bunched together and exaggerated. The towns are way too manufactured in appearance and minuscule in size.. The mountains look enormous and pointy but are only like 100-200m high. The whole thing looks and feels like a Bob Ross painting, it's all just too perfect. In Daggerfall the world is barren, hostile, bleak, and the geography feels exactly like the real world, except with centaurs and shit. It feels more realistic that towns are a bunch of normal-looking houses and normal people just living their lives, rather than some exciting drama waiting for you to come along happening round every corner. Especially with the tedious travel mod, traversing the world feels like a real adventure through the genuine unknown - and it is unknown, because the chances are if you go to a random spot in the middle of the wilderness, nobody who has ever played the game, even the devs, have ever been there before.

Having said all that, the reason I stopped playing after a few weeks is just due to the lack of variation in quests and dungeons. Daggerfall is ultimately a dungeon crawler and some mods making the dungeons feel more real and logical, and maybe a bit smaller, wouldn't go amiss.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 17:33:53 2019 No.5886895 >>5886869 >he hasn't basked in the horny presence of /ourgoddess/ dibella unenlightened newfags

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 17:37:35 2019 No.5886897 >>5877048 Albion is some retarded top down and first person hybrid with awful combat and Wolfenstein 3d tier level design. I'm not sure what the relation is when Ultima Underworld and Lands of Lore 2 exist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 19:24:12 2019 No.5887131 >>5886895 >cursor is now in grab mode

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 19:39:42 2019 No.5887163 >>5878507 You're a man, get over it.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 23:49:15 2019 No.5887601
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>>5861856
Guys. I can't do it. The dungeons. Are too. Fucking. Big. And with no rhyme or reason.

I've spent like 5 hours in this dungeon so far. I'm supposed to be ascertain the state of some bitch who may or may not be insane. Where is she? I've killed hundreds of her big titty goon rangers. There are like 50 levers. I've pulled all of them. I don't even know what they do.

This isn't fun for me. I can zoom in on that 3D map all I want. Figuring where I've been, where I need to go, how all these myriad passageways are connected, is mind boggling.

There's so much verticality to this dungeon I feel like I'm playing some levels of Descent coded by a drug addict.

I don't know how you guys can think this fun. It hurts my brain.

And why is half the map see through and ghosty? This makes it even harder to puzzle through the 3D map.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 00:37:45 2019 No.5887660

>>5887601
lol filthy casual can't spend 5 hours in a massive dungeon for a fetch quest
Just kidding. It's awful. It's like they were more concerned with how big their algorithms could make every single dungeon that they forgot to see if that was really fun or not.
Most of the time there's some easily missable hidden switch deep in the dungeon that reveals a new area that you need to go to. Rarely, the quest generation bugs out and the person is actually unreachable, in some room that is not connected to the dungeon in any way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 01:31:13 2019 No.5887721 >>5887601 Try this setting: https://forums.dfworkshop.net/viewtopic.php?t=1689

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 01:31:51 2019 No.5887723 >>5887601 i see a bunch of unexplored doors

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 01:34:31 2019 No.5887726 >>5887723 also use right and left mouse button and set pivot points the see through is on anything above you it's really not that hard to navigate dungeons in daggerfall

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 01:41:41 2019 No.5887737

>>5887660
>>5887721
>>5887723
Ok, I finally found the old bag. Verified she's still alive. Carefully made my way out of the dungeon. Went back to Daggerfall. Talked to the princess. She gives me a tower shield I can't even use because I specialized in blunt weapons and all blunt weapons seem to be two handed.

WELP. I mean, I think I could get used to the size of the dungeons. I made it through this one. For the most part.

But the thing is, there isn't a huge reason to explore every single room or anything like that. My inventory filled up with valuable shit almost instantly. I started throwing away stuff that was worth 100 gold and less just so I could keep picking up gold and other valuable stuff. Eventually I stopped picking up things all together.

In all of that I got a warhammer that was slightly better than what I had, better chest armor, and a slightly better helmet, plus a butt ton of gold.

Is there anywhere I can store all my books and stuff like that? I've got all these books and I think that's neat so I want to keep them, but they're taking up too much space in my inventory. I know I can buy a house, but can I store shit there? How does that work?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 02:02:06 2019 No.5887769 >>5887737 Get a cart ASAP. You access it by clicking on the dungeon door.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 02:11:43 2019 No.5887778 >>5887769 Where do I get a cart?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 02:16:37 2019 No.5887782 >>5887778 Most towns have a shop selling one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 02:17:29 2019 No.5887783 >>5887778 Almost any general store.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 06:34:23 2019 No.5888038 >>5887601 >>5887737 nice reddit spacing faggot

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 07:04:58 2019 No.5888072

>>5887601
>>5887737
>too retarded to deal with a static dungeon
>too gay to buy a cart
Check the wiki next time, retard. Or, better yet, play a game that sucks less ass alltogether.
>>5886897
Albion is great, you just have shit taste which is probably a reason why you enjoy Daggerfall.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 07:55:12 2019 No.5888141

>>5887601
>>5887737
For what it's worth that's actually one of the largest dungeons in the game as it's a main quest dungeon. Most of the random dungeons are a third that size. If you paid close attention to her ramblings you might have learned the secret to bypassing it entirely for later quests involving her.
Don't get me wrong they're still huge and still mostly consist of bland 3D mazes regardless of size (with a few standout modules to be found) but at least know they're not all to that level. Plus even some of the bigger main quest dungeons actually have some cool designs in them that make them more fun to explore despite being larger.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:11:10 2019 No.5888418 >>5888141 shut up

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:26:02 2019 No.5888438 File: 193 KB, 643x1205, shut up.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5888418 based

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:30:00 2019 No.5888445 >>5864446 >being an obvious prudish newfag Top cuck

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:33:36 2019 No.5888456 File: 68 KB, 572x799, 1996 - A Message to Bethesda.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5864446 You and her would get along just well.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:40:15 2019 No.5888468

>>5888141
>there's a secret to opening the magically held door that I was supposed to deduce from her insane ramblings

>I can't even click on her to hear her insane ramblings again, I had to deduce it the first time

Well shit. This is an unwelcome development.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:44:11 2019 No.5888480

>>5888468
After you complete the main quest she outright tells you the password in case you hadn't figured it out from that first one. Though at that point there's no need for it and it's basically only useful for letting you skip the dungeon in future playthroughs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 15:18:59 2019 No.5888807 >>5888468 If I remember correctly, DF unity has an extra notes section that writes this stuff down so you can check back on it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 16:10:09 2019 No.5888901 >>5888807 There's a page in my log that shows all the dialogue text I've seen. However it gets erased every time you exit the game.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 16:44:10 2019 No.5888949

So all of a sudden I'm handed like 5 letters in rapid succession.

>Hey I'm a servant of the emperor, meet me at this town 10 days away.
>Hey, why haven't you met me at this tavern?
>Where are you, if you don't show up I'm going to assume you're an enemy of the emperor.
>Alright. You're an enemy of the emperor!!!

Like all one after the other within 5 minutes of each other.

I'm guessing this is a plot device? Like I'm being set up? Or is this one of those renowned Daggerfall glitches?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 16:47:36 2019 No.5888952 >>5888949 Sounds like you haven't done anything that would trigger couriers handing you letters in the past 10 in game days, so this quest is bust.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 17:05:25 2019 No.5888983

>>5888952
I was on the other side of the world stuck in some crazy old bitches underground big titty magician dungeon on a mission from the Princess of Daggerfall. I guess the couriers didn't have the balls to find me in there. And now I'm on the Emperor's shit list? Fuckin' A.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 18:30:42 2019 No.5889109 >>5888949 That's the only timed quest in the game. Did you fast travel across the world in the slowest way possible?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 18:31:43 2019 No.5889115 >>5889109 Required timed quest*

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 19:37:53 2019 No.5889224 >>5888456 what a dumb cunt

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 19:47:17 2019 No.5889245 >>5888456 Why didn't Bethesda go on to model wobbling cocks and the like? They could have been the big kahuna and paved the way for successful adult only games. pffft.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 20:01:59 2019 No.5889267 does daggerfall unity fix any glitches in the original? i'd like to play daggerfall but back when i tried it on dos i remember falling through the floor often also im not a fan of graphical changes in general but widescreen is nice

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 20:20:41 2019 No.5889305 >>5889267 >does daggerfall unity fix any glitches in the original? Yes it's far more stable than the original and fixes a lot of broken stats.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 20:21:53 2019 No.5889308 >>5888456 >>5889245 To be fair, there are no dicks in this game. Men are Barbie dolls. it does seem kinda like a double standard

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 20:24:01 2019 No.5889315 File: 422 KB, 1920x1080, unknown.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5889308 There are no pussies either except people that can't handle the dungeons

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 20:59:05 2019 No.5889372 https://youtu.be/13pDkmNqcSo

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 21:04:39 2019 No.5889389 >>5889315 >>5889308 it seems weird to sexualize tits

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 21:05:07 2019 No.5889390 >>5889389 #FreeTheNipple

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 21:07:44 2019 No.5889396 >>5889372 a cool mod would be to place torches yourself, you could mark in real time what you've explored so far, and it's realistic isn't it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 21:09:22 2019 No.5889404 >>5889396 DF Unity already lets you do that by enabling the setting to equip torches and candles and lowering natural dungeon lighting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 21:26:03 2019 No.5889438 >>5889305 thanks I got it running quickly did the original have hills though? iirc it was just flat terrain?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 21:38:25 2019 No.5889460 >>5889438 i think it did have heightmaps but they were broken (lol) there were mountains for sure

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 00:21:32 2019 No.5889730 >>5889438 Terrain was bumpy in the original. Daggerfall's engine was fully 3D, so it wasn't completely flat like in Arena. But it was way more flat at large scales than DFU's terrain is.

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 05:48:22 2019 No.5890097

I don't get it.

am i too old?
I installed everything and as soon i start a new game i am not in a dungon, just in the open wild.
Everyone i talk to is hating me.
I go to the king in daggerfall and he gives me random quests, where is the story? Only that one little snippet:
>oh you have to go to daggerfall
>your ship broke
>you wake up in a dungon
no i'm not in a dungon.
So i go to the king and he gives me random quests, overall the quests are always
>go to point X do Y
and when i go to town X or residence Y it always seems the wrong city and everybody i talk to hates me!?
I run around a few days without getting the quest done aaaaaannnd it's over. Back to the king, another quest
>you have 2 days
i fast travel
this will take more than 3 days
wtf

are you fucking kidding me?
Where is the story?
Where is the mainquest?
Why is everybody so shit?
Why do i not start in a dungon?
Why does the king talk about Yemoton when the city name is clearly Yemoten!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 06:14:57 2019 No.5890141 >>5890097 I think that the main quest is delivered to you by mail after you've been exploring a while.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 06:20:17 2019 No.5890154 >>5890141 oh, i thought i had to go to the king. That letter looked like some extra quest from a mod pack. ok.... But why did i not start in a dungon?

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 06:30:43 2019 No.5890172

>>5890097
There is a main story. The main quest is delivered piecemeal in the form of letters from the various influences of the Bay.
You'll get a couple quests for the three main kingdoms and once you do them it all starts coming together in the second half.

>Everyone i talk to is hating me.
Did you give yourself 'bad reactions from peasants/commoners' in character creation? That's why everyone hates you. Eventually with enough personality and reputation (from doing lots of random quests) you can counteract that. In the meantime just get used to talking to a bunch of NPCs until you find one willing to give you directions.
There's no speech checks or anything that matter in quests like the later TES games so you won't be missing out on anything just by being disliked; it just takes a little longer to get the information you need.

More importantly than all of that, you definitely should have started in a dungeon called Privateer's Hold. Well not a literal castle dungeon but it's a cave that you have to escape from to get to the open world with any new character. Something went wrong if you just started out in the wilderness. Are you using mods?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 06:31:22 2019 No.5890174 >>5890154 it might be an option you ticked while installing the game

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 06:40:08 2019 No.5890189

>>5890172
>More importantly than all of that, you definitely should have started in a dungeon called Privateer's Hold. Well not a literal castle dungeon but it's a cave that you have to escape from to get to the open world with any new character. Something went wrong if you just started out in the wilderness. Are you using mods?
yeah i know, i clearly remember to start in a dungon where i had to escape from. I just unsitalled everything and made a clean install again. Going to test it again now with a new char.

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 07:30:01 2019 No.5890267

ok, working now, fresh isntaller with all fixes enabled did the job. Also made a new char. and put at least one point of personality. Got the loot from the dungon and run out. Now in Daggerfall, mainquest got normal triggered and town folks are ok~ish.

just one thing, why is my language mixed up with englilsh?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 08:07:17 2019 No.5890321 >>5887601 some people are mentally ill and enjoy wandering through mazes looking for cheese like a rat, guess that isn't you

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 08:08:23 2019 No.5890323 >>5890321 other people just want cheese handed to them in regular intervals

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 08:10:22 2019 No.5890329 >>5890323 >its one of two extremes hurr don't start this shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 08:20:58 2019 No.5890349 >>5890321 It wouldn't be so bad if Daggerfall dungeons weren't so shitty.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 08:43:40 2019 No.5890376 >>5890349 >>5890321 dilate

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 09:00:52 2019 No.5890403 >>5890376 Rent free Play better games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 10:22:58 2019 No.5890528 >>5890349 agree with you old games are overall just shit! the thing is, newer games just better i loved the hell out of ff15 but when i play now ff7 oooooh, no thanks but hey we get ff7 remake whoo hooo

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 10:26:31 2019 No.5890530 >>5890403 how ironic now lmao

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 10:55:00 2019 No.5890562

>>5890530
How is it ironic? Daggerfall is a dogshit game.
>garbage randomly generated dungeons with the same 2-3 enemies and pixel hunts
>giant map you can ignore for the most part because everything looks the same
>huge towns that make you walk for 99% of the time because most of them consist of useless houses
>empty overworld
>quests are for the most part garbage except for like 2 good ones

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 11:03:03 2019 No.5890572
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>>5890349
It's funny because RPG fans back then were saying the same thing, but because it's old now it's flawless and anyone sharing those complaints today must be a kid who hates old games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 11:08:32 2019 No.5890584 >>5861856 Shits good. Classic game with a modern modding community that is starting up. Now that the game is in an alpha state you will see lots of improvements and mods.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 11:17:30 2019 No.5890598 >>5890097 Fix your install or settings.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 11:18:33 2019 No.5890604 >>5890562 why are you here?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 11:19:33 2019 No.5890608 >>5890562 it's one of the few games (perhaps only) that offers you a lifetime of content

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 11:19:35 2019 No.5890609 >>5890572 congrats you found two negative posts on the game nevermind the fact daggerfall did win big awards and was popular on release these two usenet posts prove nobody liked it

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 11:20:26 2019 No.5890610 >>5890604 >OP asks if the game is good or shit >NOOOOO STOP SAYING THAT IT'S SHIT

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 11:24:09 2019 No.5890615 >>5890572 That guy is clearly an idiot if he didn't like Realms of Arkania. If anything this proves Daggerfall was a pleb filter.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 11:27:29 2019 No.5890617 >>5878510 >Would you accept someone on your living room watching you silently/24h? We live under the exact same situation, expect that only the guy in your living room is invisible but still here. G, gg, God????

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 11:45:58 2019 No.5890642
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>>5890609
What do you mean two? That's the first thing I've posted and unless I'm seriously missing something hidden there it's just one post. Looking through the rest of the thread the only other old post I see is >>5888456 which seems to be some proto-SJW just complaining about nudity.

But since you wanted two here's another. Not sure what your overall point is though, nobody said that nobody liked it. Plenty of people liked Daggerfall. Plenty of people hated it too. Suggesting that anyone complaining about the crappy cookie cutter dungeons is simply saying "old bad new good" is what's bullshit since those complaints are as old as the game itself.

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 12:12:21 2019 No.5890698 [SPOILER]

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>>5890642
>which seems to be some proto-SJW just complaining about nudity.
Yes I posted that because I thought it was funny, not as a criticism of the game. I actually like Daggerfall's dungeons myself but I can see why a lot of people wouldn't, at least the non-main quest ones. It could have used a lot more variety for sure and I am at the point where I have memorized most of the possible layouts for the "random" dungeons, but that took me over 70 hours of playtime and before then I greatly enjoyed the fact that I could actually get truly lost in them and had to come prepared for potentially fatal diseases/poisons and not waste too much time resting so I can complete my quests. They serve their purpose well in that regard.
And when you DO get to the main quest dungeons they've got some really memorable stuff. Loved the cool tricks in Direnni Tower, the Castle Daggerfall treasury room, and especially the entire Mantellan Crux which was such a surreal contrast to the rest of the game. I wish they included a few other dungeons like that in other planes, like for the Daedric quests or something. Battlespire's later levels reminded me a lot of it in overall design and ambiance.
So yeah, I get it, not for everyone, but for someone like me there's nothing that can satisfy that itch quite like Daggerfall.

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 17:36:30 2019 No.5891336

I'm getting Giants showing up in cities. They are normal sprites just larger. I have the villagers mod and warm ashes installed. Could not see any documentation on giants in cities. Any ideas?

They are really distracting and rub me the wrong way since I main nords.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 17:52:33 2019 No.5891392 >>5891336 sounds like the villagers mod, when you have giant sprites usually its a load order issue

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 18:15:33 2019 No.5891438 >>5868983 Shame the interfaces are designed by one armed bandits, possibly blind.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 18:29:39 2019 No.5891468 D.R.E.A.M mod eats up a lot! So i went with overall textures Disabled and Models/NPC Disabled Butter Smooth now. Maybe i also shouldn't play at 1080p. Anything else to tweak the hell out of it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 18:51:06 2019 No.5891506 >>5891468 I'd enable click to attack as well as being able to pick guild quests so you can avoid mummy wrappings quests.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 21:48:58 2019 No.5891793 >>5891392 That is what it was. Thanks anon!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 21:53:24 2019 No.5891796 >>5890608 Of boring procedurally generated seamless content

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 05:59:54 2019 No.5892334 bump

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 07:11:45 2019 No.5892414 >>5891796 Procedural is the inevitable future

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 07:52:20 2019 No.5892464 Distant Land Mod is better than Mountan and Hills Mod! Fight me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 12:59:14 2019 No.5893025 File: 27 KB, 720x833, 1528626744099.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5892464

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