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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>5852238

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom, Quake, Duke, Marathon, or Thief:
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0 [Embed]

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=17fEEr969NzxgqPBVl0M0stXZxTjegRbZ


Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4

Launchers for Build Engine games
http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
https://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

>> No.5856728

=== ONGOING ===

/vr/ Heretic Mapping Project
-Currently looking for mappers, testers, and anyone else who can help.
-Project Discord server: https://discord.gg/BBPnHM8

H.U.H. - /vr/ Quake Mapping Project
-Current release, final unless bugs are spotted
-https://mega.nz/#!znJVlAiJ!CfsIcjb1Z_hDcesCaUKOkCcRJlgUhLmf49T6RVYCbUU

=== NEWS ===

[9-1] Colorful Hell update
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&p=1117225#p1117225

[9-1] Doom 4 Vanilla released.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/108725-doom-4-vanilla-dehacked-project/

[9-1] OTEX, a resource of textures and flats released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103426-otex-texture-set-%E2%80%93-update-version-10-released/

[9-1] Fraggle's 'Miniwad' released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/108721-miniwadwad-a-minimalist-iwad

[8-29] Joe Rogan interviews John Carmack
https://youtu.be/udlMSe5-zP8 [Embed]

[8-27] Anon releases his unfinished project, free for cannibalizing
https://gofile.io/?c=7iv0Zp

[8-26] Ion Fury devs claim upcoming patch is not censoring content
https://steamcommunity.com/games/562860/announcements/detail/1616150570017627014

[8-25] Final Doomer 3.1 releases with Hellbound, Alien Vendetta, and Whitemare-themed weapon sets
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=55061

[8-23] Paradise v2 final version out
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/106058-paradise-v2-final-version-8222019/

[8-23] Doom Mobile RPG page taken down, reuploaded to Mega
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4

[8-22] James and ClintLGR made an Chex AVGN video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg0y9i5E7nY [Embed]

[8-22] Anon uploads obscure retro FPS'
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac

[8-21] SM200 for Quake released, mixed themes
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61762

=== PREVIOUS ===

https://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

== PROTIP ==

To submit news, please reply and anchor it to this post.

>> No.5856732
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5856732

First for E3M2

>> No.5856735

>>5856732
Bad map
Neat image

>> No.5856737

>>5856727
Third for goddamn D4V is fucking fun.

>> No.5856741
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5856741

10/10 game

>> No.5856742

>>5856741
What's up, Shelly? You're looking a bit crunched.

>> No.5856749
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5856749

Fuck the Tomes of Power and fuck the Sidhe.

>> No.5856752 [SPOILER] 
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>>>/v/476480482
Eternal leaks. Would be cool if real.

>> No.5856754 [SPOILER] 
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>>5856741
I'm losing my mind over these graphics.

>> No.5856779

>>5856754
>not "Im at a loss for words"

>> No.5856786

>>5856749
based and serpentpilled

>> No.5856797
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5856797

I thought this was a nifty comparison between vanilla and D4V.

This is the Spider Mastermind encounter of Map05 in Plutonia

(1/2)

>> No.5856801
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>>5856797
This is the same encounter with D4V.

(2/2)

>> No.5856813

>>5856749
Get fucked, D'Sparil. You’re nothing but a teleporting coward.

>> No.5856815

>>5856801
I like how the chaingunners in D4V function differently, but still make you never want to be in an open area with them.

>> No.5856816

>>5856815
>>5856797
>>5856737
It that some iteration of D4T or what? How many D4*s are they going to make?

>> No.5856817

>>5856801
Hey there, Olivia.

>> No.5856823

>>5856749
No, fuck you Serpenthead.

>> No.5856825

>>5856816
It's Doom 4 Vanilla. It's a 100% DEHacked project. It's vanilla gameplay, with Doom 4 assets, enemies, attacks, etc, but limited to vanilla's capabilities.

The only thing it has in common with D4T is that they share some sprites/assets.

>> No.5856837
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5856837

I love the design of this map (E4M5). I think it has a subtly abstract design with its platforms.

>> No.5856841

>>5856823
Hey buddy, I think you've got the wrong level. The Dome Of Dsparil is 2 blocks down.

>> No.5856846

>>5856749
What the fuck is he casting?

>> No.5856850

>>5856837
It’s a fun map. It’s also made by Tim Willits and his sister, Theresa Chasar.

>> No.5856852 [DELETED] 
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5856852

name a more kino map

>> No.5856856

>>5856852
Please turn off texture filtering. Thank you for your time.

>> No.5856857
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>> No.5856858
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5856858

Repostan but does anyone have the TNT version of this?

>> No.5856863

>>5856858
I have a hard time imagining a TNT version, since it is so forgettable by comparison to Plutonia

>> No.5856867

>>5856863
I remember the animated tapes texture

>> No.5856873

>>5856857
What about Paladin, Crusader, Assassin, Necromancer, and Demoness from Hexen 2?

>> No.5856876
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>>5856863
reminder that TNT is superior to plutonia

>> No.5856893

>>5856876
Not only is it better, but it has better music.

>> No.5856907

>>5856876
Please turn off texture filtering. Thank you for your time.

>> No.5856916

>>5856893
Not with plutmidi :^)

>> No.5856921

>>5856876
>the snorefest is better than the engaging one

>> No.5856929

>>5856907
....why do you think modern resolution is "texture filtering"?

>> No.5856930

>>5856929
Oh gosh please tell me you're trolling

>> No.5856935

Why did American love square boxy levels so much

>> No.5856945

>>5856930
please tell me YOU are trolling...do you think 1920 x 1080 res is automaticlaly "texture filtering"?

>> No.5856950
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>>5856945
Please compare your above screenshot with this one I just took.

>> No.5856983

Is there anywhere to get the Redbook audio for Blood?

The soundtrack that comes with the .gog release can be renamed and converted, but it feels a bit off for some reason.

Also, nBlood or BloodGDX? I've been using nBlood more and it feels fine, but I'm sure there's a ton of tiny inaccuracies, and it's been like 10 years since I've played the original so I couldn't tell.

>> No.5857026

I just noticed a fun little quirk with D4V.

One of the new baron of hell attacks is a splash damage attack, which I guess the game interprets as a barrel explosion. This means that if you have two barons close together, they are likely to end up in-fighting because they'll harm each other with their splash attack.

>> No.5857036

>>5857026
Splash damage isn't marked as being from specific projectiles IIRC, so any splash damage can damage any actors that aren't specifically immune to it like Cyberdemons are.

>> No.5857038

If somebody combined Hellforged's enemy reskins with the OTEX texture pack, you'd have a new Freedoom except with art BETTER than the original Doom.

>> No.5857051
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5857051

>AVGN is way more /ourguy/ than GmanLives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg0y9i5E7nY

>> No.5857052

>>5856858
Try some google-fu with the archived threads.

>> No.5857068

>>5856837
Level geometry is Theresa Chasar's, texturing, as well as monster and item placements are Tim's.

>> No.5857070

>>5856728
Doom 4 Vanilla has been updated to 1.1, and MS-DOS version is now available

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/108725-doom-4-vanilla-new-v11-ms-dos-edition/

>> No.5857072

>>5857068
Tim Willits', that is.

Two other collaborations of theirs are ATTACK.WAD and CANYON.WAD from Master Levels. Before that, those two made a userlevel wad, called Raven. All the maps, except 7, 9 and 10 are Willits', the three mentioned are Chasar's.

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>> No.5857130
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>>5857128

>> No.5857137

Is it recommended to use GZDoom to play Doom 4 Vanilla?

>> No.5857142

>>5857137
Use Doom Retro.

>> No.5857165

>>5857142
Why? I've never seen anyone recommend that before. D4V even comes bundled with Chocolate Doom and Crispy Doom.

>> No.5857187

>>5857165
Some people like Doom Retro. It's a decent port.

>> No.5857214
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5857214

What settings do you need to enable/disable to make gzdoom look like dos doom?

>> No.5857224

>>5857214
set texture filtering to point

>> No.5857227

>>5857223
I Didn't realise there was a new thread.

>> No.5857232 [DELETED] 

>>5856752
Link? Or more pictures?

>> No.5857245

>that Eternal leak thread saying that Chaingunners are back and Crash is now a thicc muscley latina
God please

>> No.5857251

>>5856801
>>5856797
You are using GZDoom vanilla essence mod arent you

>> No.5857267

>>5857245
Isn't crash a quake 3 skin? What is it doing in Doom?

>> No.5857292

>>5857267
Crash was the female counterpart to Doom.

>> No.5857295

>>5857051
I like that he actually played it vanilla.

>> No.5857296

>>5857292
I'm guessing this is a multiplayer thing or something because I've never come across anything like that.

>> No.5857301

>>5857267
Crash and Phobos are yeah but they're pretty much girl Doom Guy and black Doom Guy do it makes sense they're just other UAC marines

>> No.5857308

>>5857296
Have you not played Quake 3?

>> No.5857309

>>5857308
I have, I thought you were talking about Doom.

>> No.5857313
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>>5857309

>> No.5857314
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>>5857313

>> No.5857316

>>5857245
>Crash is now a thicc muscley latina
I'm sorry, what?

>> No.5857317

>>5856752
I know it's fun to git hype and have something to look forward to, but this stuff about no "always run" mode because of stamina limit to the "sprint" just sounds awful. This is on top of all the recent footage looking terrible and the lore stuff sounding lame af.

>> No.5857325

>>5857316
>The DLC packs will be about Phobos and Crash, each taking place during the Demonic invansion of Earth. Phobos is still a white dude and Crash is a “hot big chested latina that will probably piss a lot of people off”
But they also say Phobos is white so maybe they're full of shit

>> No.5857327

>>5857245
>>5857316
>>5856752
obvious fake is obvious

>> No.5857328
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>>5857325
Sounds like anon making shit up to me. i hope to god it is

>> No.5857342

>>5857317
That was most likely someone else, the OP had stopped posting a while back. The lore sounds fine though. I blame the bad footage on consoles. The game is virtually unchanged from its first reveal, they just held back on showing off a lot.

>> No.5857350

some of the master levels for doom 2 wads, like mephisto and blacktwr, just take me to the normal entryway level, while others work. has anyone else ever had this problem? these are the official wads from steam too

>> No.5857351

>>5856735
E3M2 is objectively fun.

>> No.5857354

>>5856837
Fuck this map, bring down the entire episode all by itself

>> No.5857358

>>5857350
oh, hm i figured out that they replace a different map in doom 2 iwad. some of them replace map 01 while others map 05 or something. weird how they did that

>> No.5857360

>>5857327
he had proof though

>> No.5857363

>>5857360
I'm waiting for this...

>> No.5857376

>>5857360
where

>> No.5857381

Are there any tutorials about how to make a 3D model weapon in a format GZDoom supports (Q3 for example)?

>> No.5857387

>leaker didn't use a trip
Fucking idiots. Nobody is gonna bother with a leak thread without a trip, half the answers were probably LARPers

>> No.5857393

>>5857363
>>5857376
Not him, but.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/476452369/#476492597
There were pictures. Also the OP is a doomworld user who was behind the d2016 mp alpha datamining.

>> No.5857403

>>5856876
I think TNT is pretty good, but I'm not sure it's better than Plutonia.

>> No.5857405

I am unable to download PRBoom+ 2.5.1.4 from their official website. An error shows up regardless of what mirror I use. Is it an issue on my end?

>> No.5857406

>>5856732
this map always gives me a weird feeling of anxiety.

>> No.5857407
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5857407

Okay, which one of you guys posted this on /co/?

>> No.5857424
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5857424

It's E2M2 for me. Beautiful level aesthetically and layout-wise.

>> No.5857426

why does everyone hate doom 2? i think its maps have a certain appealing vibe that the first game didnt have. a more open feel

>> No.5857428

>>5857424
it still confuses me

>> No.5857429

why does everyone make assumptions about what everyone likes or hates?

>> No.5857430

>>5857426
I just haven't played it yet. I'm going through Heretic currently.

>> No.5857435

>>5857429
It's an accurate assumption, though.

>> No.5857460

>>5856876
I do think thats one of the best maps from TNT. But I prefer Plutonia.

>> No.5857475

How do I disable mouse movement in PRBoom? I cannot unbind it from "move forward" and it's not even bound to "move backward", but it still works like that.

>> No.5857476

>>5857475
Should be a dedicated key to enable or disable. Try M?

>> No.5857478

>>5857387
The real OP would get mad (and get a trip) if he saw someone pretending to be him though.

>> No.5857480

>>5857476
No, nothing like that.

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>>5856732

>> No.5857485

>>5857480
Iunno bud, unplug your mouse?

>> No.5857486

>>5856797
What's the HUD mod you're using?

>> No.5857487

>>5857485
But I still want to use the horizontal mouselook.

>> No.5857494

>>5857487
Options > General > Mouse > Enable Mouslook

>> No.5857498
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>>5857487
>>5857475
So you dont want to actually disable mouse movement.
You want no vertical movement.
You want picrelated

>> No.5857507

>>5857498
Thank you, that did it. I feel ashamed that I didn't think of it myself.

>> No.5857510

>>5857351
Boy I sure love dealing with ten billion lost souls without any ammo.

>> No.5857530

>>5856935
His maps also generally lacked height variation compared to everyone else.

>> No.5857537
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>> No.5857541

>>5857482
I was hoping someone would post that in response.

>> No.5857542

A while back I was at a flea market and someone was selling a huge box of old PC disks, and one of them was labeled "1600 maps for Heretic". I skipped on that one to get other stuff, but In hindsight, I wish I had gone and bought the whole box.

>> No.5857548

>>5857542
For historical reasons or what? For just gameplay value alone, those shovelware discs usually were filled with just random crap, you'd be lucky to find a couple of decent maps out of 1600 .wad files.

>> No.5857562

>>5857426
I actually like most of Doom 2. But I do think Sandy Petersen made a few too many maps.
Excluding anything Tom Hall related, and Dead Simple (While Petersen came up with the concept, the final design is by American McGee), he fully made 11 maps in Doom 1, and 14 in Doom 2.

>> No.5857563

>>5857548
Is there any ObHack (or similar expanded Oblige) version that works with Heretic?
People aresaying that obHack maps are actually decent right now, but I don't seem to find a Heretic-compatible version.

>> No.5857567

>>5857563
There's very few versions of Oblige that are flat out compatible with Heretic, you'd probably have to manually edit the maps to be compatible.

>> No.5857571

>>5857537
Jesus what port is this?

>> No.5857583

>>5857571
Apple IIGS

>> No.5857584

>>5856727
How do I fix this fucking "movement" in gzdoom? Christ. Its like every floor is coated with gallons of semen.

>> No.5857585

>>5856741
loss?

>> No.5857586
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>>5857537

>> No.5857592

>>5857426
>contrarians on 4chan
>everyone

>> No.5857597

Parthoris - Heretic and Heretic 2
Cronos - Hexen
Thyrion - Hexen 2

>> No.5857602

>>5857584
Its more like controlling the giant balling ball with shotgun on it

>> No.5857604

>>5857585
ya did it champ

>> No.5857631

>>5857128

Any bimbo mods for Shelly yet?

>> No.5857642

>>5857584
>>5857602
Man, it seems like everyone notices things that are "off" with the different ports and here I am being clueless about it

>GZDoom has slidey movement
>PRBoom+ has weird mouse response
>CrispyDoom is perfect (apparently) but does not support Boom format

Are there any patches that fix GZD or PRB+?

>> No.5857652

>>5857642
The "weird movement" is just your perception of exactly same kind of movement at different framerates. The movement code is exactly the same, aside from GZDoom adding customability instead of rigid hardcoding.

In any case, there was a mod for GZ that allows you to customise the movement in whatever way you want.

>> No.5857658

>>5857313
She's hot.

>> No.5857662

>>5857631
any goth mods?

>> No.5857665

>>5857662
That would be fine as well.

>> No.5857693

>>5857251
Yes, why

>>5857486
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=63863

>> No.5857696

>>5856876
TNT shit map list:
>Metal
>Wormhole
>Dead Zone
>Crater
>Processing Area
>Stronghold
>Ballistyx
>Habitat
>Administration Center
>Central Processing
>Shipping/Respawning
>Mount Pain
>Mill

Plutonia shit map list:
>Slayer

>> No.5857714

>>5857631
>>5857662
>goth bimbo mod
yes

>> No.5857723

>>5857714
Problem never ever. isn't it really time consuming to make new sprites and animations?

>> No.5857739

>>5857696
True but I would argue that TNTs best maps are better than anything in Plutonia. Stuff like Styx and Pharoah are exquisite

>> No.5857742

Is Sunlust the best wad ever made?

>> No.5857753

>>5857742
No.
Bloodstain is.

>> No.5857757

>>5857753
I think you meant to say Going Down. That's okay everyone makes mistakes.

>> No.5857759

>>5857757
Not Eviternity?

>> No.5857765

Did The Castle release the non Brutal version of his map?

>> No.5857773

>>5857759
No, Ancient Aliens

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>>5857696
>Wormhole
>Dead Zone
>Central Processing
>Shipping/Respawning
>Mill
>bad

>> No.5857832

>>5857381
ANYONE?

>> No.5857848

>>5857773
Agreed. Ancient Aliens is top of the shelf stuff.

>> No.5857853

>>5857773
>>5857848
I love those predator type looking enemies, they are really fun to fight.

>> No.5857859

>>5857696
System Control is one of the dankest openers though. So compact and tricky.

>> No.5857864

>>5857696
>Metal
>Habitat
>Mount Pain
Only actually bad maps on your list. Also you forgot Baron's Den.

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5857881

What are your favorite maps from Plutonia?

As in, the ones you thought had the most fun gameplay. Not necessarily the hardest or the prettiest, just the ones that you enjoyed playing the most.

>> No.5857890

Is there a lore reason why enemies in doom fight each other

>> No.5857891

>>5857881
I've always been a huge fan of Speed.

>> No.5857894

>>5857881
I love slaughter maps, so I thought go 2 it was great

>> No.5857897

>>5857890
Who
the
fuck
cares
about
lore
in
Doom
jesus
christ
you
goddamn
zoomer

Make up your own reason. Chaotic evil. They hate each other. Whatever.

>> No.5857917

>>5857890
its because they're bascially just aminals

>> No.5857926

>>5857890
they are demons
they dont need a reason

>> No.5857928

>>5857890
I'd rather ask why so many demons just stay quiet and hidden until some wall suddenly open nears you.
Actually, is there any mod that activate every monsters on a map right from the start?

>> No.5857931

>>5857245
>latina
dropped

>> No.5857934

>>5857890
I don't remember who mentioned it, but demons are only loosely cooperating with one another, and aren't above fucking each other up if they get hit with friendly fire.

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>> No.5857947

>read the supposed leak on Doom Eternal's story/gameplay
>Its fucking retarded
>third person cutscenes too
Part of me was hoping this was going to be good somehow. For fucks sake.

>> No.5857951

>>5857928
I always found that funny.
>Demons just standing facing the monster closet door, all refusing to make eye contact or be the first to make a sound
>for hours and hours and hours

>> No.5857968

>>5857947
nigger we've seen plenty of TPS cutscenes already, they looks great.
>caring about the story

>> No.5857971

>>5857947
If we can skip them, I don' t care.

>> No.5857974

Anyone else think doom the way id did feels nothing like the original at all. It feels so much mazier

>> No.5857981

>>5857974
ultimate doom the way id did is alot better

>> No.5857987

>>5857968
can you skip cutscenes? The first-person "look at this helmet" and "look at this gun" moments in Doom 2016 were pretty stupid shit.

>> No.5857989

>>5857631
so literally just a bombshell mod?

>> No.5857993

>>5857548
for that but also to get a shitton of random games for a few cents a piece. I cherrypicked what I wanted but there was other stuff I would have liked maybe, looking back on it. Doesn't matter that much though.

>> No.5857997

>>5857987
Add?

>> No.5858000
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>>5857989
Sure.
I actually like her cyberpunkish looks more from that shitty game. Could still be a thicc brunette instead of just a blonde bimbo.

>>5857947
Told you, it's going to warcraft that shit up.

>> No.5858006

>>5858000
>tfw no amputee robo-arm gf

>> No.5858007

>>5857941
>cultists don't start shooting immediately after spotting you
>only brown robed cultists around
>none of them tried to throw TNT
this is on a low skill level, isn't it

>> No.5858008

>>5857429
poor social skills

>> No.5858009

>>5857947
>none gameplay elements ruin the game
Oh fuck off
Also don't quote that "sprint" stuff, that was clearly somebody who wasn't OP and we would have seen it by now

>> No.5858010

>>5858006
>she uses her robot arm to jerk you off at a super fast inhuman speed
>you bust a fat nut as a result, she continues to mock you for nutting so fast

>> No.5858013

>>5857947
>third person cutscenes
and that's how we know this is fake

>> No.5858015

>>5857051
Holy fuck he's gotten old.

>> No.5858017

>>5858013
We've already seen TP cutscenes tho
I don't mind if the skins are cool enough and it's all in-engine, the credit scene in '16 was great

>> No.5858021

>>5857739
Shitposting aside, i also appreciate the atmospheric level design from some TNT tech base maps, such as Storage Facility, Stronghold, Power Control and Processing Area. As much as i like Plutonia, it would've been better if it had atmospheric maps, Compound, Bunker and The Sewers are good, they are probably the only levels that somewhat resemble tech bases and an actual sewer, but their design is shit in comparison to the best TNT has to offer.
>>5857806
>Central Processing
You like that shithole map? The only good trait that map has is the music, the rest is shit, specially that crappy puke green and grey midtexture.
>>5857859
Agreed
>>5857864
Well, the later half of the wad is pretty forgettable.
>>5857881
Cyberden

>> No.5858023

>>5858017
>We've already seen TP cutscenes tho
where? did I miss some big reveal or something?

>> No.5858034

>>5858015
his first videos were in 2004 m8, that's 15 years ago now. Youtube-obsessed zombies are younger than his videos.

>> No.5858040

>>5857890
They’re demons. They’re evil.

>> No.5858047

>>5858023
Yes. The gameplay trailers have third person cutscenes.

>> No.5858057

>>5858047
where?

>> No.5858067

>>5858057
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=doom+eternal+trailer

>> No.5858071

>>5858057
How hard is it for you to type Doom Eternal gameplay?

>> No.5858083

Is Alien Vendetta better with pistol start or not?

>> No.5858085

>>5856863
>we have
>TNT
>TNT
>TNT
>TNT
>TNT
>and wormhole

>> No.5858086

>>5858083
Every single WAD is better with pistol start.

>> No.5858104

>>5857696
>Dead Zone
That's one of the best fucking maps in the set, yet you don't list stinkers like Baron's Den, or lackluster ones like Last Call?

>> No.5858113

>>5858067
>>5858071
That's why I ask. The oly thing close to 3d person cutscene is when he enters a fortress after getting shot through BFG10k and that's just environmental exposition so it doesen't really count.
Is there anything else or is that what you yapping about?

>> No.5858123

>>5858086
I thought everyone started each MAP with a pistol. That’s what I always do, I assumed that’s what they are designed for

>> No.5858128

>>5857890
Combination of lack of intelligence and discipline, probably 'clan' feuds going back (and they're just barely keeping it together as is under the invasion), and maybe just problem controlling rage and sadistic opportunism.
Probably varies and depends on the type of demon.

They're all fucking afraid of the arch-vile though, they won't hit him back NO MATTER WHAT, even a cyberdemon won't. The demons all probably know something about them that we don't, that they're of some particularly powerful and influential heritage or something, so even if they're canonically very simple minded, almost childlike in mentality, you just don't fuck with them if you know what's good for you.

>> No.5858129

>>5858007
Seems mid difficulty.

Higher is not really different, you just have to crouch more. And peak around corners instead of going in. Blood is hit scan hell but separates men from children.

>> No.5858142

I love it when a baron turns around just to kill that one imp who scratched him before resuming the fight with you.

>> No.5858145

>>5858142
>hang on a sec human, I need to slap a bitch

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Next OP image

>> No.5858151

>>5856863
>what is the truck and egypt?

>> No.5858161

>>5858123
Literally how? When you play Doom normally it's never pistol start

>> No.5858162

>>5857947
What a drama queen, lol

>> No.5858165

>>5857997
What?

>> No.5858172

>>5858148
did you fucking resize a thumbnail? why is the quality on this so shitty.

>> No.5858175

>>5858172
Probably saved on mobile.
Most sites shit on the resolution when you open them up on mobile, despite mobile screens being more than a high enough res. It's a bandwidth thing, and the phones don't seem to give a shit when they're connected to a wifi network or not because no one knows how to actually make anything worth a shit.

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>>5858148
>>5858172
>>5858175

>> No.5858192

>>5858161
I just use idclev to select the maps separately

>> No.5858196

Pharaoh would be cooler if, at the end, instead of just waking up a bunch of shotgun guys it was a full on hellish slaughter

>> No.5858197

>>5858179
A bow can make just about anything cute.

>> No.5858218

>>5857426
all the additions besides the maps are objective kino, and most of the maps are decent to great, it's just there's a few segments where it feels like a slog due to a few crappy ones

>> No.5858225

>>5858197
Even The Mother of a Thousand Young?

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>>5858197

>> No.5858241

>>5858162
Could you at least pretend to be over 18?

>> No.5858246

D4V need a monster only mod

>> No.5858247

>>5858241
Does that mean blowing shit out of proportion?

>> No.5858248

>>5858123
I've always wanted to do this, but so far only bothered trying 300mins this way. It makes discovering a new weapon so satisfying, but I like playing megawads as continuous journeys.

>> No.5858251

>>5858247
I'm not even that guy.

>> No.5858262

>>5858251
Congratulations.

>> No.5858274

>>5858262
Why are you like this?

>> No.5858281

this is going to end in fucking isn't it

>> No.5858315

The new Doom universe made me think old school doom has a better story or at least a better take on Hell
>hell is visually more interesting because of the abstract/variety, even with no actual landmarks like giant skulls but at least it wasn't just floating rock stuff most of the time
>actual and/or a bit more references to religious/mythical stuff, even if it's just level names or basic stuff like crosses (it was a mix of actual hell and its own thing, really)
>believable biodiversity with different species and blood colors, since if a demon in new doom doesn't have chiton/shell details, then it's human related somehow
>only former humans are not from hell
>able to corrupt and consume other worlds
>hell creates and births its own kind, instead of needing outside factions (uac, heaven), making them their own strong entity
>most of the good stuff in new doom that makes hell cool originates from the older games
>even doom 3 kept some of this stuff
>hell is still the main villain
>even doom 3's implication of aliens was that they got fucked by demons too (like us) so the same could have applied to heaven
Do we need to rehire Sandy Peterson?
Feels like adding world building to Doom only makes the setting lamer and limits some stuff
Maybe focus more on creating new whacky designs like a tank demon with a rocket launcher for a head
Leave actual proper lore to Fallout, despite what Todd tells you

>> No.5858319

>>5858315
There was supposed to be a ton of lore for the doom, wasn't it

And why do you think Sandy would improve stuff? He's a Cthulhuhead, do you really believe Doom needs more Lovecraftian shit in it?

>> No.5858321

Finally finished Thy Flesh Consumed on UV, and so it's the first time I completed Doom. I really liked it. I think this episode was much better than Inferno.
I think I'll do a no save UV fast playthrough, then finally start Doom 2.

>> No.5858323

>>5858319
I meant that he knew demons were just cartoons and you shoot them
New Doom doesn't even have an upside down cross because it just turns them into made up symbols
At least there's pentagrams
It just feels "safe", compared to a game inspired by heavy/trash metal and D&D stuff

>> No.5858336

>>5858315
well it's still better than the movie lore

>> No.5858346

>>5858179
Yes

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>> No.5858363

>>5858315
>tank demon
But we literally got that, it's the Doom Hunter

>> No.5858367

>>5858363
I meant like tank wheels, like the Sabaoth
Was just trying to come up with an example

>> No.5858368

>>5858358
i wonder how low its actual polycount

and can it be ported to GZDoom

>> No.5858369

The Doom pistol sucks compared to all the other weapons. If you were a Doom developer would you have done anything to change it or just left it as it is?

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>>5858367
*distant sound of tank threats*

>> No.5858375

>>5858369
Make it shoot a little faster and make it use its own separate ammo pool.

>> No.5858381

>>5858358
well each tooth is at least 6-9 tris.
if i had to guess its somewhere around 1000 tris, what with the ridges and tongues.
God tier texturing

>> No.5858382

Anyone know if D4V is Doom compatabil?

>> No.5858385

>>5858369
add a futuristic mag-pistol that deals 15+(1d3*5) damage, uses two bullets per shot, and doesn't have a 4 tic delay between clicking and firing
when you find it, you throw the old pistol away

>> No.5858387

>>5858381
It almost looks like a sprite. I really want to see it in motion.

>> No.5858389

>>5858369
Let it fire a little bit faster when tapping the fire button. I wouldn't want to change it a ton, I think the rest of Doom's weapons are delicately balanced.

>> No.5858395

>>5858385
addendum: add a map flag to enable pistol-starting with the mag-pistol, so you could do a thing where you find it early on in one map and start every other map with it

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>>5858368
actually, looking at this image I'd say it's higher. That's at least 12 tris per tongue segment (probably 14) 9 per tooth, and that puts it as something like 700 for just those 2 aspects alone. The rest is pretty detailed too. Those ridges are probably 20 tris per ridge at least (can't see without a turnaround), and assuming it goes round to the other side that's 40 per. so that's another 160
860 + everything else.
Looking at maybe 1200+
Anyways. I wanna see a wireframe and a count to see how close I am...

>> No.5858415

>>5858404
>>5858358
NOT RETRO

>> No.5858418

>>5858415
quake engine tho

>> No.5858423

>>5858418
NOT RETRO, SAME AS WITH IF. GO TO /V/.

>> No.5858425

>>5858415
Wrong, faggot

>> No.5858434

>>5858404
Damn that's cool looking. Giving me some real D64 Pain Elemental vibes.

>> No.5858435

>>5858425
TO /V/

>> No.5858439

>>5858434
I assume that's...bad?! Because Doom 64 had terrible art direction.

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>>5858435
So Arcane Dimensions is not retro? Is the thing that makes it not retro is the fact it's a standalone being sold for money?

>> No.5858450

>>5858435
>>5858415
you are obviously not retro yourself
go back to /v/

>> No.5858452

>>5856837
This map has alternate paths you can choose too. Cool as fuck.

>> No.5858453

>>5858423
>SAME AS WITH IF
Literally retro.

>> No.5858457

>>5858439
Its in-game sprite is pretty ugly, but I like its weird two mouthed design and sweet mullet.

>> No.5858463

Is Call of Duty retro since it runs on the quake 3 engine?

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Should this work in latest Doom Retro? NRFTL doesn't appear for me, Sigil does though.

>> No.5858469

>>5858323
The problem is Doom had already got a ton of shit from right wing Christian types when it came out for its mere portrayal of violence/Hell. A huge chunk of those people think Mormonism is a heretical cult so they wouldn't have listened to a damn thing Peterson would have said.

>> No.5858487

>>5858468
DoomRetro is a worthless port anyway so who cares

>> No.5858505

>>5858463
hurr

>> No.5858510

>>5858463
Is Scythe not retro since it came out in 2003?

>> No.5858513

What's the best doom 4 style mod? There are so many.
And would D4V count as vanilla?

>> No.5858514

>>5858439
thanks for your hot take

>> No.5858524

>>5858514
You are welcome anon

>> No.5858525

>>5858487
>I don't care therefore everyone else should too

>> No.5858526

>>5858463
Yes.
And Medal of Honor too since it came out on PSX first

>> No.5858528

>>5858525
why would you

>> No.5858529

>>5858513
D4T crucible slayer edition

>> No.5858539

>>5858529
Thanks

>> No.5858547

>>5858315
>Feels like adding world building to Doom only makes the setting lamer
100% this.

>> No.5858550

>>5858319
>There was supposed to be a ton of lore for the doom, wasn't it
There was, and it probably would've been cringey imo, but Carmack told Tom Hall to fuck off with his dweeby bible and that was that.

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>>5858321
Good job anon! I just beat Doom 2 for the first time a few days ago, planning to go back to Doom 1 soonish. I actually did finish that one before unlike 2, but it's been a long time.

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>>5858550

>> No.5858576

>>5858528
Why not?

>> No.5858581

>>5858319
Yes. Doesn't have to go full Quake, just add some touches here and there.

>> No.5858590

>>5858315
I kind of agree on a lot of this.
I don't think some worldbuilding for Doom is inherently bad, but I dislike the whole "all .wads are canon to classic Doom and all of classic Doom is canon to the new Doom", and the stuff with heaven just feels bleh.

Doom 3 actually did a lot of things better in terms of worldbuilding IMO.

>> No.5858596

>>5858590
>but I dislike the whole "all .wads are canon to classic Doom and all of classic Doom is canon to the new Doom",
How so?

>> No.5858601

>>5858590
Doom 3 did nothing.

>> No.5858603

>>5858601
(And That's a Good Thing)

>> No.5858607

>>5858590

>Doom 3 actually did a lot of things better in terms of worldbuilding IMO.

Not really. Doom 3's world building was as stale as the rest of the game. Literally all of the audio logs were "Dude I was down in maintenance and I heard a spooky noise! Btw the ammo cabinet code is #####."

>> No.5858608

>>5858590
I actually quite dig that approach. The cyclical "hero of time" approach to doomguy is sensible and the fact that he would go on a tirade against the demons is plausible. Doom 64's ending kinda let the fact that he's willing to remain in hell to kill the shit out of them already.

>> No.5858613

>>5858590
I like how they handled aliens in Doom so i feel like Heaven could have gotten the same way
>there is a heaven in doom but even they couldn't get away from hell's evil shit
>also, the levels mirror some of inferno's textures and props, so they have their own fireblu too
>maybe they even have a special weapon that you can use to wreck hell

>> No.5858615

>>5858596
I just never felt that Doom 4 fit in any well with the style and aesthetic of classic Doom. I liked Doom 4 quite a lot, but I think the new series should stand on its own merit and carve out its own canon.

>>5858601
It does small things, logs and e-mails tell you about the workplaces and the people there, and there's things hinting at the outside world back on earth, even if little.

>> No.5858616

>>5858608
Same, it's much more interesting than "IT'S LITERALLY ALL THE SAME DUDE!!"

>> No.5858618

one day until hunter is confirmed, arenabros

>> No.5858620

>>5858615
Well, D4 is slated to be part of a different universe supposedly. I find most of their aesthetic choices to make sense within that universe.

Eternal is going to flesh the world out a fair bit more, so that's that.

>> No.5858624

>>5858590
>all .wads are canon to classic Doom
I think the idea here is more about the vague intrepertation of how deep hell is, in terms of places and creatures
You have a series of textures and items to make a lot of levels with and a diverse selection of demons that come off as different species
the visual variety + lack of story makes is as IF the hundred megawads and realm667 monsters COULD exist in Doom, but aren't canon
It's more about the "maybe" part of it
It raises both Hell's power level and versatility, even if not literally

>> No.5858625

>>5858608
>>5858616
Zoomers back to /v/

>> No.5858626

>>5858552
>beat Doom 2 for the first time a few days ago
Well, congrats.
>old enough to remember buying the Game Gear as my first console
>still took me this long to beat Doom.
I was really disappointed at myself for this.
Still need to finish all official wads, then Doom 3, then properly finish Doom 4, all before Eternal.

>> No.5858632

>>5858607
That's most of it, but there's a little bit of other stuff too, the alien excavation things, the demons they kept in test tubes, etc.
I'm more saying that some of the stuff they do for Doom 4's lore doesn't feel much better.

>>5858616
I just prefer the idea that OG Doomguy was just a human being who simply happened to be the best fighter of the entire species, meanwhile there's clearly something supernatural about Doomslayer, as if he was a demi-god, like Hercules.
Mortal, yet not quite.

Doomguy is born, he grows up, hell happens, he fights and wins, judging by which expansions and pwads you prefer happening, he becomes an advanced veteran who wins against hell many more times. Life goes on, after his passing he's remembered as mankind's greatest hero.
Or something else, maybe you really like the story of a certain pwad where something else happens.

Doomslayer feels much more like a new story entirely.

>>5858624
I just dislike the idea a lot because there's a lot of pwads out there, and they vary a lot, and they clearly have their own canons and stories in mind, I'd hate for them to be just stuffed into another canon all haphazardly.

>> No.5858636

>>5858632
The idea i mentioned is not even much of a story thing, but just the "possible" locations and designs as a whole

>> No.5858639

>>5858529
Do you know how to change the grenade types?
It's a really good mod

>> No.5858642

>>5858632
I still like the idea that he's a hardened tack of a man turned unstoppable force of nature.

>> No.5858646

>>5858639
>Do you know how to change the grenade types?
how, the inventory ones like syphon etc?
i think it does what D4T did which was only carrying one at a time
i wonder if the author thought of an option to carry them all and select which one to choose like an actual inventory

>> No.5858650

>>5858642
I mean that's a working idea, I just think it would be better if they set it up with a separate incarnation rather than implying he's the same guy from the original game.

>> No.5858652

>>5858646
Yeah
Coming from PB I thought this would be a no brainer, but the option to switch nades is nowhere to be found. I guess there's really only one at a time..
Thanks for clearing that up

>> No.5858656

>>5858650
I don't think the concept would work as well without the character. It's just no fun fighting as some unstoppable force who you know nothing or have no attachment to. I would've taken Doom3guy as well but coming full circle to the classic games I can jive with.

It's not like any of this matters either way. You can just chalk everything up to before he became the Slayer in the timeline.

>> No.5858665

>>5858656
>I don't think the concept would work as well without the character
I mean they could do a new one.

>I would've taken Doom3guy as well
There's an idea. They do already crib some of the aesthetics and design sensibilities of Doom 3.

>It's not like any of this matters either way
True.

>> No.5858709

>>5858665
I mean there needed to shine a light on who the Slayer was sooner than later. Like they were gonna board it anyways and I'd rather him be a guy I know than someone else. Let's agree to disagree.

>> No.5858746

>>5856727
I noticed that the first 2 ranged weapons in Quake 1 and 2 are more useful and versatile than the ones for Doom 1 and 2. Quake's shotguns remain useful after the first episode.

>> No.5858757

>>5858746
I felt like the Doom single barrel shotgun stayed more relevant than the Quake 1 and 2 ones honestly, but it's been several years since I played either Quack game.

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5858775

Why exactly did id never make an actual Doom 3 back in the day? Seems weird for a company just pass up money like that.

>> No.5858779

>>5858775
Doom 64

>> No.5858780

>>5858779
>id

>> No.5858783
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5858783

>>5858775
Probably because most of the people who worked on the Doom 3 we got were more focused with making a "NEXXXXT GEN EXPERIENCE" and didn't have as clear of an idea of what Doom is really about as the Doom 2016 team had.

>> No.5858791

>>5858783
Doom 3 was closer to the originals than single-player-arena-jumper was.

>> No.5858792

>>5858775
Too much focus on tech.
D3 is still good. Yeah it was different, deal with it

>> No.5858801

>>5858791
Really? Cus Doom 16 was pretty much just fast action like classic Doom was. Sure it had a different design philosophy in terms of approaching that, but Doom 3 was more or less about being atmospheric.

Even tho you could go fast by strafejumping in it

>> No.5858807

>>5858780
Id might have at least done supervision with Doom 64 during its development I think.

>> No.5858808

>>5858775
maybe they didn't thought the formula needed more, which is why 2 only had one new weapon

>> No.5858829

>>5858801
both go to different paths, honestly
one has the action and the designs, the other has a more hell like hell, marine protag and zombies actually carrying the guns you can carry

>> No.5858841

>>5858746
The gameplay philosophy is a bit different, and I like that.
Doom's Shotguns are more powerhouses because excess pellets will continue through a target that dies, so if you shoot at a group you're likely to consistently get your ammo's worth of each shot.

Quake's Shotguns don't have that, but they have other advantages, the single barrel is your pistol tier weapon, but it's much better than Doom's Pistol, it's got a tight multishot spread and fires pretty fast, making it very reliable at range.
Doom's shotgun actually has pretty good range too, but not as good as Quake's.
Quake's super shotgun doesn't have quite the sheer power, but it's a lot faster than Doom's, which makes it safer to use for fighting things like Fiends, who are very fast and dangerous melee motherfuckers.

>> No.5858858

>>5858513
Not D4D, or at not a present version, maybe a version before they started adding crap like dual wielding and replacing existing features with features scraped from the sequel's trailer.

>> No.5858861

>>5858319
Sandy's done more than just Cthulhu stuff, he's actually a very accomplished /tg/ developer.

>> No.5858865

>>5858757
The Quake 1 single shotty is almost never irrelevant. Aside from the Thunderbolt, it's your only means of hitscan attacks past pissing range as Q1 has no chaingun equivalent. You can lead with nails, but both nailguns eat ammo like candy (especially the SNG) and if you use up all your nails you're putting yourself at a big disadvantage should a Shambler or Vore show up.

>> No.5858875

>>5858791
>reloading
>shotguns as melee weapons
>only 2 enemies at once
>'I shat my pants, where's the nearest bathroom' runspeed
>closer to the originals

>> No.5858883

>>5858861
He is, he's a dyed in the wool OG fa/tg/uy, a nerd who loves fun.
Mind one of his noted accomplishments is that he wrote a Call Of Cthulu pen and paper game before he even joined iD, he's a very big fan of Lovecraft, even if he's done a lot more.

>> No.5858904

>>5858875
>double jumping
>weapon mods
>character upgrades
>arena only combat
>only 7 enemies at once
>anything at all like the original
Ah, someone who started with brootal dewm

>> No.5858915

This board became the biggest heap o shit in the last two years.

>> No.5858935

https://twitter.com/SlappyCromwell/status/1168927905239502850

>> No.5858937

>>5858875
>>5858904
Both of you are misrepresenting each game.

>> No.5858941

>>5858434
>Giving me some real D64 Pain Elemental vibes.
OMG THIS IS FUCKING EPIC HELL YEAH PREORDERED FOR MYSELF AND MY WHOLE FAMILY

>> No.5858948

>>5858941
Can you not make posts like these?

>> No.5858951

>>5856727
That covert art is badass

>> No.5858954
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5858954

>>5858915
A misguided refugee center. It is what it is. But the cool people still lurk around.
They just... lurk. Waiting.

>> No.5858959

>>5858948
Can you not make posts like these?

>> No.5858962

>>5858904
sorry, about 90% of those words missed. you might wanna crawl close before I hit you for 5 dmg

>> No.5858968

>>5858904
All of that sounds more engaging than what Doom 3 amounts to, for one. Even 2016's arena setpieces are more fun to traverse than any good Doom 3 map.

>> No.5858973

>>5858915
Just ignore the the nintenshits and you'll be fine.

>> No.5858974

>>5858973
here we go afriend

>> No.5858978

>>5858954

daww. i'd take all of them home.

>> No.5858979
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5858979

couldn't solve the 6 panel puzzle in shadow warrior by randomly jumping on them so quit for now

>> No.5858992
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5858992

>There are people out there that think this looks fine
Holy shit dude.

>> No.5858993

>>5858935
I love Q1 but this is delusional.

>> No.5858995

>>5858993
He's right, Quake has lots of color.

>> No.5858997

What difficulty is the first Marathon meant to be played in?

>> No.5858998
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5858998

>>5858935
>Doom
Ugly muddy shit with chunks eye-raping RGB vomit.
>Quake
Ugly muddy brown shit with occasional chunks of orange lava.
>Quake 2
Ugly orange piss.
>Doom 3
Ugly grey shit.
>Nu-Doom
Ugly orange vomit.
>Daikatana
Pleasant-looking game with nice and balanced color palette.

>> No.5859002

>>5858998
based and romeropilled.

>> No.5859006

>>5858998
>>5859002
why is daikatana supposed to be bad, again?

>> No.5859009

>>5859006
Play it without the patch

>> No.5859014

>>5859006
Overhyped, delayed, antagonistic advertising, some particularly questionable design decisions, and lots of bugs.

If you fix it with patches, it's not terrible, but if you promise me kobe beef, building it up and calling me a faggot, and what you give me is a PB&J sandwich (where you accidentally replaced the jam with ketchup), I'm not going to be very impressed, and I'll certainly wonder why there was such a big deal about it.

>> No.5859015

I just got it. Anyone want to play good old death match?

>> No.5859019

>>5858607
I liked how it gives background to things like the UAC, weapons, things happening on mars and many other things.

>> No.5859024

>>5858791
One of the things I loved the most about classic doom is the explorable dungeon-like level design. Neither Doom 3 nor Doom 2016 had this.

>> No.5859028

>>5859014
>antagonistic advertising
Maybe it's because I'm autistic, but I've never understood how anyone could care about this. It just seemed like generic edgy 90's teenage boy marketing to me. The idea that the ad is actually intended to be personal never even crossed my mind.

>> No.5859030

>>5858998
Quake 1 actually had quite a bit of blues in some levels.

>> No.5859042

>>5859028
I don't think it's so much the ad itself as it is the perfect ion storm that gets kicked up when you call everyone a bitch and tell them to hold on tight for the facefucking they're going to get. If you deliver it's one thing, but if the end product is shit, it comes across as incredibly obnoxious and inept.

>> No.5859052

>>5859019
I would've been in on it too, if any of it was remotely interesting. The game just meanders about with nothing.

>> No.5859054

How many girls in the doom community do you know?

>> No.5859056

>>5859054
One

>> No.5859058

>>5859054
Two, maybe three, of the top of my head.
Oh, I guess there was some girl who made a megawad back in the 90s too, don't know if she stuck around any though.

>> No.5859060

Someone want to play? Host a sever.

>> No.5859065

>>5859054
not that I know myself, but "girls"? plenty.
girls? arctangent, mspr and almonds.

>> No.5859069

>>5859065
There are some sexy trannys too

>> No.5859082

What is the file "D4V.deh" that comes with Doom 4 Vanilla? Do I need to for the mod the run?

>> No.5859091

>>5859082
Yes, it has all the behavior changes.

>> No.5859093

>>5859054
Personally? Two, one's me, nobody will know my secret.

>> No.5859096

>>5859093
post .wad

>> No.5859104
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5859104

Anyone want to play some co-op or death match on Doom II? Post sever link!

>> No.5859107

>>5859104
*sever name

>> No.5859108

>>5859091
So just put both that and the wad in the folder I have GZDoom in and everything'll run fine?

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>>5859065
>almonds
Yes, I'm serious.

>> No.5859113

>>5859082
You only need it if you want to play on Vanilla or Chocolate Doom. There's an internal dehacked lump that most source ports will read.

>> No.5859120
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5859120

>>5859112
This is why you don't share shit online.

>> No.5859128

>>5859096
lolno, I go out of my way to post them in a way where they don't get connected to me, it's the only way to get useful fucking feedback.

>> No.5859134

I am new to zandronum, is it okay to proceed without certain files when the warning pops up asking me if I want to?

>> No.5859137

>>5859112
Oof. Royal dick move.

>> No.5859139

>>5858315
Also, the way how demons are handled probably damages the power fantasy aspect of the new games
When you make them feel weaker, less demonic or even less of the main bad guy, the whole Doom Slayer thing might as well be just marketing

>> No.5859142

>>5858369
Many wads out there do minimum things with the pistol like a slightly higher firerate and that seems to work fine. All it needed was a higher firerate and more powerful sound effect for the gunfire.

>> No.5859150

what slaughter wads are mostly based around just circling around huge groups of enemies, trying to get them to fight each other? i know thats considered simple gameplay, but i like it sometimes. most of the famous slaughter wads seem to try to avoid it

>> No.5859157

>>5858369
I think having the berserk pack effect it in some way would be neat. Be it a faster fire rate, higher accuracy, or both. I think it makes sense thematically because it would be affecting your whole starting loadout.

>> No.5859170

>>5859150
nuts

>> No.5859174

how in the FUCK do you beat the final boss of Hellforged

>> No.5859196
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>> No.5859198

>>5859139
The demons are strong, though. Just because a couple stones chant your name doesn't mean you're unkillable.

>> No.5859241

>>5859198
He's pretty fucking squishy TBQFHWU

>> No.5859246
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5859246

MAP28 of Ancient Aliens is kicking my ass. Playing it on UV, saveless, pistol starting.

Aside from gitting gud, anyone got any advice? I've made it to the yellow key, which is about halfway done, but I often get rekt before that.

>> No.5859260

>>5859241
he thicc

>> No.5859263

>>5859112
the fuck did you get that from

>> No.5859269

What the fuck got deleted?

>> No.5859273

>>5858128
Arch-viles heal/resurrect other demons don't they? Why would they attack their healer.

>> No.5859280

>>5859269
Ancient Chinese secret.

>> No.5859283

>>5859273
From the doom fandom wiki:
>Monsters damaged by an arch-vile's attack will never retaliate because there is an exception in the source code that prevents other monsters from targeting them. This does not stop arch-viles themselves from targeting and damaging other monsters, though.

>> No.5859302
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5859302

I like Doom

>> No.5859312
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5859312

>>5856727

Now time to digitize.

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5859314

>>5859312

>> No.5859316

>>5859312
>>5859314
That is fucking sweet.

>> No.5859324

>>5859112
Bullshit, no cute girls can unironically like Doom.
still saved though.

>> No.5859325
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5859325

>>5857537

>> No.5859328

>>5859128
Then do it here, where we're all anonymous... ?

>> No.5859330
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5859330

>>5859312

This is interesting, The Lost Episodes of Doom book is basically a strategy guide that only covers the pwad. It has info on all the monsters, multiplayer tips etc too. My understanding was that it was a story but after checking the wiki it looks like I just extrapolated that from 'details the levels'.

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/The_Lost_Episodes_of_Doom

>> No.5859331

>>5859325
>This is my BJ face

>> No.5859335

>>5859330
>The Lost Episodes of Doom
These things are on archive.org but it's some obnoxious library system.
https://archive.org/details/lostepisodesofdo00mend

Scan all dem shits, anon. Give us some tasty pdfs.

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5859343

>>5859335

will do for sure, I'll chuck em on my Google Drive (already got the shovelware and 'More /vr/ shooters' on there) so it can live in the OP.

For archive.org you can defeat the DRM really easily. I can't remember the name of the application but you just point it to the DRM protected file you check out from archive.org and it spits out a pdf for you. I found it by googling the file extension.

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5859354

>>5859343
I could only find Adobe junk and trial software. Can't say I like those options.

>> No.5859380

>>5859312
is the level pack good?

>> No.5859402

>>5859343
>>5859354
since goofle implemented personalized algorithms everyone gets slightly different result when googling for solutions.

Provide the fucking links damnit, lmgtfy approach does not work and havent been working for a long while now

>> No.5859417

>>5859402
>google

Use Startpage instead, nibbas. It's basically Google search through a proxy, without the personalised bubble.

>> No.5859419

Is there a fork of Quakespasm or something that has uncapped framerate?

Physics still tied to 72 or whatever of course.

>> No.5859434

>>5859419
Anything based on FitzQ or QW will have that 72 frames cap, and even if you uncap it, physics will get a bit wonky.

Darkplaces is only semi-modern thing not based on those.

>> No.5859435

>>5859434
>>5859419
Quakespasm-Spiked unlinked the physics so you can run framerates higher than 72.

>> No.5859442
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5859442

Time to listen to the thing.

>> No.5859519

>>5859442
No.

>> No.5859521
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>> No.5859529
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5859529

>>5859335
>>5859402

https://www.epubsoft.com/how-to-remove-drm-from-adobe.html

First link on DDG

>>5859380

Not really but personally I really like it. If you're into 94 style wads check it out.

>> No.5859532

>>5859521
Can you actually export a map into a model with a separate texture map?
Can you export the moving parts (doors/lifts/stairs) as separate models?

>> No.5859539

>>5859532
Maybe? I’m not really sure if it’s possible, but I’d like to see if it is.

>> No.5859546
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5859546

>>5859302
me too

>> No.5859551

>>5859546
Is there a Punisher Doom mod?

>> No.5859570
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5859570

>>5858935
Aw man, ep1's techbases are finally over, can't wait to see others with ancient castles & neterwo...oh

>> No.5859571
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5859571

I remade my map to be Boom-compatible. I have to say that it pains me that I cannot do that fancy dynamic lighting anymore. Boom mapping seems more convoluted, but I probably just have to get used to it.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/thehkdush2jpxsi/DOCKBAY.wad/file

>> No.5859573

Oh shit, D4T se is fucking hard. It's following Doom16's enemy accuracy based on your speed a bit too closely and it doesn't fit with most official wads where you can barely run around due to lack of space

>> No.5859576

>>5859570
Quake is blue+brown+grey+dirt-green+some-times-red.

>> No.5859581

>>5859576
True

>> No.5859583

>>5859442
It's an occulus ad.

>> No.5859586
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5859586

Sigil is fun and Doom 4 Vanilla great.

>> No.5859591

>>5859570
>ep1
>techbases plural
what

>> No.5859592

>>5859576
And purple.

>> No.5859598
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5859598

Thy Flesh Consumed has such a great palette

>> No.5859605

Why the hell I can't load D4V with Doom.wad?

>> No.5859615
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>>5858007
Cultists don't immediately fire at you if you're going fast, instead they'll constantly be realigning their line of sight. That player also has reflective shots so a lot of them were firing and stunning themselves. It's clearly on Well Done skill, load up that section on that difficulty and you'll see the same number and types of enemies there.

>> No.5859616
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5859616

>>5859615

>> No.5859642
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5859642

>ruins your wad

>> No.5859651

>>5859642
Fuck off Joel.

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5859654

>>5859642
>improves your wad

>> No.5859660
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5859660

>>5859642
>>5859654

>> No.5859746

Is hell revealed worth playing?

>> No.5859768

>>5859128
>lol no I'd never risk my community brownie points
Fag

>> No.5859787
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5859787

Which """retro""" fps has the best overall arsenal?

Hardmode: other than Doom 2.

>> No.5859792

>>5859787
Duke and Blood.

>> No.5859797

>>5859108
No, you need to load both together.
On the other hand, modern DeHacked .wads often has the lump embedded in the .wad already to allow modern ports like GzDoom to read them automatically, so might not need to.

>> No.5859808

>>5859787
Unreal/UT.
Can't beat Flak Cannon, ASMD and 6 barrel rocketlauncher with spreadshot, concentrated, grenade and homing capabilities. Razorjack is fun too.

>> No.5859812

>>5859792
The only weapon in the blood arsenal that I actually like is the dynamite.

>> No.5859816

>>5859787
Doom 2, but if we're going by hard mode then probably Duke Nukem 3D. I used to think most of the arsenal was gimmicky, but playing it trhough again has shown me that the only really useless gimmick weapon is the freeze ray. Shrinker turns mini battlelords from a serious threat to an slight annoyance.

>> No.5859819

>>5859808
The dispersion pistol in U, as well as impact hammer in UT were really good too for always-have-them guns.

>> No.5859820

>>5859808
Sniper also felt meaty and powerful.
Also loved the plasma gun secondary shot trick. No other fps did stuff like it.

>> No.5859826

>>5859808
Man I forgot about Unreal, you aren't wrong. too bad the level design isn't that good... Or maybe I would like it more now days.

>> No.5859829

>>5859826
Unreal 1 flows really well and has great levels. It's a midi opera fps, taking in the nice levels and music while shooting stuff.

Or maybe I just played it at the right time in that fucking gold mine age for videogames, going up the spire and to the floating cities was amazing.

>> No.5859840

>>5859820
That was ASMD, not plasma

>> No.5859841

>>5859840
Yeah the blue thing shit.

>> No.5859842

>>5858369
I'd Duke Nukem it a little; double the fire rate, and every 10th shot it pauses for a real quick reload animation, so that you can't quite use it as a reliable machinegun substitute, but you can still do some decent fighting with it if you mind the reloading.
Probably also make use out of the unused recoil frames for a smoother animation.

I probably wouldn't give it its own ammo pool, because that would entail having to do a lot of other changes and rebalancing, and it's better to keep it simple for vanilla Doom.

>> No.5859845

>>5858369
Make it a bit more powerful. Add ability to shoot weak shots when out of ammo.

>> No.5859864

>>5859442
I thought it was very enlightening.

>> No.5859869

>>5859642
G I T
U
D

>> No.5859918

>>5859829
The spire, level design wise, is maybe the worst level. But as an experience it's crazy memorable. Freely exploring this massive tower. Popping your head out occasionally to see how far you've risen to get that "woah" feeling. Then you take that elevator up like 50% of the distance.
Good shit. People aren't impressed by things like that, but it's a sort of architectural trick. The intro to the game is memorable for the same reason. You stick someone in a small area, have them travel through a small porthole, into a massive open environment.

>> No.5859948

>>5859918
It was more like, seeing it in the distance and actually getting there. It was brand new.

>> No.5859953
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5859953

Anyone want to play some Doom II: Hell on Earth on Zandronum? Post sever name.

>> No.5859964

>>5859948
The whole game is just SCALE.
It's pretty great. Even the bad levels are great. Fuckin love that game.

>> No.5859965

>>5857214
Texture filtering, band lighting, palette tonemap mode, download a pixelating shader from ZDoom forums, possibly bump up the gamma because I never knew DOS Doom had a gamma shortcut and was too bright for me.

>> No.5859969

>>5859953
I wanna, set it up. Hurry!

>> No.5859971

>>5859746
It's super hardcore and you shouldn't feel bad if you don't beat it on UV.
There's better maps but it's still one of the harder ones.

>> No.5859975

>>5859969
Can you host the sever? I'm new to this. I want to play 4 player co-op. Maybe we should set up a discord.

>> No.5859992
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5859992

I made a /vr/ sever so we can play Doom and FightCade anytime we want to:

zQ9eN2

>> No.5860003

>>5859953
>>5859975
I can host a server real quick if you want, dunno if I'll join in but I can keep an eye on it and maintain it, do you just want vanilla Doom 2 co-op?

>> No.5860006

>>5860003
Thank you. Yeah, just vanilla Doom 2 co-op. I created a sever so we can talk if you want to join:

zQ9eN2

>> No.5860010

>>5860003
Not the guy you replied to but how exactly do you set up a zandronum server? Their wiki is garbage and doesn't actually say anything on how to set it up.

>> No.5860013

>>5860010
I think on windows you can run the Zandronum exe with a server flag or argument to make it run in server mode. I run mine on a Ubuntu server where I simply use the zandronum-server package.

>> No.5860016

>>5860010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FAJtBqBll4
Try watching this.

>> No.5860019

>>5860013
I would be hosting with linux. Where do you get the zandronum-server package for it, and is there anything else you need to do differently to host on linux?

>> No.5860030

>>5860019
https://wiki.zandronum.com/Install_Zandronum_on_Ubuntu
This should help you get started. Also my server should be live on Doomseeker as "Sumo's Temple of Boomerjuice" with a password of "boomercore" because I first made it ages back before the meme was run into the ground.

>> No.5860042

>>5860030
But hosting on linux is the same, just launch it with the server flag enabled?

>> No.5860054

>>5860042
>>5860030
>>5860019
>>5860016
>>5860013
>>5860010
>>5860006
>>5860003
>>5859992
>>5859975
>>5859969
>>5859953
Why are you guys using Zandronum for vanilla Doom multiplayer

Just use Odamex, that's much easier. There are default servers up and everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijcTx6vBoJw

Their discord is pretty alive too.

>> No.5860056
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5860056

Get in here. The sever is up and running!

>> No.5860059

>>5860054
Ignore the youtube video, my clipboard fugged up. This is the Odamex link.

https://odamex.net/

>> No.5860069

>>5860056
>>5860059
I'm using it mainly because I already had it set up and ready to go on my end and I'm familiar with it. I can do a shitty complex clusterfuck type server too if someone wants that for some reason.

>> No.5860071

>>5860069
>shitty complex clusterfuck type server
pls no

>> No.5860073
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>>5860071
thought not

>> No.5860079

Get in here if you want to play;

zQ9eN2

>> No.5860089

>>5859570
every episode has a techbase first level you fetus

>> No.5860092

>>5859576
Cry harder

>> No.5860101

>>5859787
Goldeneye

>> No.5860108

>>5860101
Goldeneye's arsenal has way too many similar weapons.

>> No.5860110

>>5859198
They could be a little bit stronger

>> No.5860115

>>5860092
seathe coope and dilapidate

>> No.5860123

>>5859551
there's like a wad named after punisher but it's otherwise unrelated, even using an image from one of the comics on the title screen

>> No.5860129

>>5857214
Vanilla Essence, software renderer.

>> No.5860130

Wtf how is D4T so fun? I never found the actual D4 this fun.

>> No.5860135

>>5859571
I'm just starting to map and going with Boom was a good choice. It gets me close enough to vanilla-style play and visuals but with extra detail and effects when needed. UDMF gizmos will be less intimidating once I know the simpler formats inside and out.

>> No.5860201
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>>5860135
I went straight into UDMF. Somebody stop me.

>> No.5860220

>>5859571
You can do the lighting effect in Boom, checkout BOOMEDIT.wad for an example although I've never tried it myself.

>> No.5860241

Out of curiosity: is there a reason why Romero designed few levels in doom 2?

>> No.5860242

>>5860241

Split between different projects, Doom 2, Quake, Heretic, just my guess

>> No.5860247

>>5860241
He's a lazy shitlord who never wants to do any work.

>> No.5860253

>>5860241
He was too busy playing deatmatch

>> No.5860258
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>>5860101
nshitty4babbys need to be culled.

>> No.5860261

ah yes, goldeneye, the first fps... innovative gameplay, intuitive controls, beautiful high performance graphics, and fast paced multiplayer... they don't make pc games of this calibre

>> No.5860263

>>5860261
*cracks monster*

>> No.5860267
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5860267

I wonder who could be behind these posts

>> No.5860269

>>5859787
Blood.

>> No.5860270

>>5860267
Half-life unironically has a decent arsenal. Still some dumb gimmick shit in there, though.

>> No.5860272

>>5860270
I wish the SMG had its own ammo pool, didn't have such stupid spread, and did slightly more damage, on top of having an even firerate.
Other than that, it's a workable and useful arsenal, for the most part.

>> No.5860274

>>5860247
Quality over quantity. His levels were the best

>> No.5860275

>>5860270
The only HL weapon I have a problem with is the machine gun, which is such an inaccurate underpowered piece of shit i have to dump 2 magazines into a soldier just to kill him. nowadays i use it strictly as a grenade launcher
i don't get a whole lot of use out of the tau cannon, but i wouldn't say it's bad

>> No.5860283

>>5858404
>1ASS and 3DTrannies

>> No.5860287

>>5860272
>>5860275
The SMG is alright imo if you just accept it as a short or midrange weapon at furthest. The tau cannon is actually pretty good imo even if it is a bit gimmick, the gimmick shit I was talking about are the hivehand, snarks, laser tripmine. The satchel is fine I guess, but I still feel it's kind of unneccesary when you have a regular grenade. Just more shit to bogdown your keyboard imo.

>> No.5860289
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>>5859787
Quake 2.

>> No.5860292
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5860292

The shadow warrior riotgun... now THAT was a shotgun...

>> No.5860302

>>5860287
I mean it's workable, but it's just kind of an unsatisfying weapon outside of its grenade launcher (which is great).
HD pack makes it feel a bit better with nicer sounds and a cooler gun.

The Tau Cannon is actually super useful, I use it as my helicopter buster, and also tankbuster.
Tripmines are kinda situational, I think my opinion of them are colored by Duke Nukem 3D, where they're hard to employ in a worthwhile manner, and like in that game, I kinda use them as a spare demolition charge. Also how I use the satchel charge, only it has a remote so I can get safe without having to play with the dangerous tripmine and its laser.

Hivehand always struck me as very lackluster, and snarks aren't terrible, but they're so weird and situational, I pretty much use them up as soon as I get them to be rid of them.

>> No.5860310

>>5860287
Hivehand is really useful for taking out wild snarks, granted that's not a very common scenario and the only other time I found it useful was later in the game being super low on ammo so I'd just peak around corners to take out smaller enemies with it.
The snarks are hard to use well, but I've found them useful against those spy bitches, same with the laser tripmines cause they run right into them. I actually forgot the satchel existed, I don't think I've ever found a situation where it's better than either a regular grenade or a tripmine

>> No.5860315

>>5860310
>Hivehand is really useful for taking out wild snarks, granted that's not a very common scenario and the only other time I found it useful was later in the game being super low on ammo so I'd just peak around corners to take out smaller enemies with it.
I discovered that the hivehand bees will actually grab the attention of automated turrets, they'll try to shoot at them instead of you.

>The snarks are hard to use well, but I've found them useful against those spy bitches
Huh, that's a good idea, I need to try it sometime.

>> No.5860326

Soldiers - basic glock on a distance (headshots), then magnum and submachine's grenade launcher, then hivehand whenever there is distance.

Ninja sluts - crossbow, then hivehand.

Everything with armor on it (gargantuas, vehicles) - tau.

>> No.5860328

>>5860310
Hivehand also implodes Nihilanth's portals in the final bossfight. It can't destroy the yellow crystals though (maybe in the unguided mode it still can?).

>> No.5860334
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5860334

GET IN HERE:

Also, /vr/ discord sever:


zQ9eN2

>> No.5860348

>>5860289
I'm bitter, man.

>> No.5860374

alright, how many of you have technically completed every map in Ult Doom and Doom 2, but haven't done it in proper order, used gameplay mods even if just enhancers and other factors that purists would cry "not legit, do it right" over

>> No.5860384

>>5860374
I used to be that way with Doom 2, just doing all the maps but in a scattered individual way. I finally did a full playthrough of it a few years back now.

>> No.5860385

>>5860374
Who cares about what random people on the internet think. Why do you seek their validation. Why do you act as if these are some required credentials to be posting here. You could have played them with Brutal Doom in reverse order with texture filtering on and on an Xbox controller. You could have played them when they came out in your old 486. You could have not even played them at all. Who cares.

>> No.5860389

>>5860385
it's just a random question, not asserting whether or not you did it right or didn't

>> No.5860405

How do you create the trick where it looks like monsters rise out of the ground in doom?

>> No.5860409
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>>5860270
Most of the shooting in the game would be vastly better if the damage values of the guns were increased and/or the health of the enemies were decreased. It'd feel less bullet spongy overall, at least in theory. I'm surprised no one's done a mod like this.

>> No.5860413

>>5860405
Don't texture the sides of the hole they rise out of. It'll look like they come out of the ground texture.

This works best on liquid textures and fleshy textures IMO.

>> No.5860417
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>>5860405
do something like this and have the ground rise up when the player crosses a linedef

>> No.5860418

>>5860413
Cool thanks

>> No.5860420

>>5860409
mostly because few realized it happened. the enemy sponginess, or rather the Marine damage/health levels, were inexplicably jacked up at one point years ago in steam updates and never fixed. rather than some overnight "what the fuck", most fans simply never realized it happened somehow and thus always thought some of that shit was just how the game was made.

>> No.5860431

>>5860334
why did you feel the need to create an entirely separate thread for this?

>> No.5860437

>>5860420
Not even that big into HL but if I ever get the chance I should learn how to mod it and crank the values down/up and make it more fun to play. I imagine it wouldn't be *that* hard to figure out.

>> No.5860438

>>5860334
>vanilla
I sleep

>> No.5860443

>>5860437
valve has the client side non engine source on github, so you can just compile a new hl.dll and stick it in the right folder
i've been wanting to make some sort of mod but thus far the most i've done is turn viewrolling back on

>> No.5860445

>>5860417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX3bN5YeiQs

>> No.5860449

>>5860443
I'm really surprised that no one's tried to change the values at this point. Surely people have noticed the sponginess of the shooting at this point to do something about it.

>> No.5860453

>>5860420
valve fucked quite a few things in the steam release, can't remember all of them but there were a few lighting related things, and it used to not render non-power-of-two textures correctly (most notably making the health stations look stretched and blurry) but that got fixed a few months ago in the steam beta, not sure if that update got rolled out to non-beta though
it's nice that they're still slowly working on bugfixes, hopefully it'll eventually be completely on par with the CD version, but with the compatibility of the steam version

>> No.5860461

>>5860374
i first played doom in dosbox with keyboard look
>>5860449
there's a surprisingly low amount of hl1 modding in general, kind of disappointing since it's a good engine and from what i've seen pretty simple to make stuff for in current year

>> No.5860487

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlCfkKZC874

>> No.5860498

thoughts on a new wad/mod host for retro shooters?

>> No.5860501

>>5860498
Aren't there ones already?

>> No.5860502

>>5860498
Always good to have more backups.

>> No.5860504

>>5860501
yeah, but a NEW one, somewhat tailored for g/zdoom gameplay mods so you dont have to look through forum threads to find stuff. Something with rudimentary versioning support with per version changelogs.

>> No.5860507

>>5860498
Theres already idgames and various other Doom archival sites. How about a host of mods for more obscure, less-centralized games? Like Blood or Shadow Warrior. Or you could start the first Ion Fury map hosting site.

>> No.5860517

>>5860498
Just don't go spreading the word all over the place. These things can and will get shut down.

>> No.5860530

>>5860517
what? I'm not planning on distributing warez amigo.

>> No.5860532

>>5860507
Good idea, let's design it to look like a gay bug chaser site

>> No.5860535

>>5860507
>first Ion Fury hosting site
Might as well start Shadow Warrior map archive. More or less the same levels of "friction" in regards to userleveling.

You know why? That is probably because everyone can just tell: Ion Furry, every single aspect of it, contains exactly 0, jack,
Z
E
R
O
new ideas regardless of whether significant or not. It brings nothing whatsoever to the table that hasn't been there before. There is Nothing To It. It's not that it is intentional tropey hodgepodge (in a way suspiciously similar to how System Shock 1 once did it), it's that it's an unintentional tropey hodgepodge as well by virtue of having zero inventions of its own.

>> No.5860537

>>5860405
Another mapping question but how big of a gap can doomguy run over?

>> No.5860539

>>5860498
If you're going to do it, do something that hasn't been done before. Personally I would love a site where all material submitted is implicitly available for use in projects and can easily (and therefore must) be credited to the original authors if used or edited. This keeps away the "muh permishuns" fags, gives artists and sound designers a good place to post resources or aggregate them, encourages modders to read and remix each other's work, and overall helps greatly with creativity. Derivative works can be linked back to the originals and works created from on-site resources can link to their pages, creating a huge amount of 2-way connections that exposes people to stuff they wouldn't otherwise have seen at all.
For example, modder#1 is shit at art, but good at code. So he gets a few sprite sets and sounds and creates mod#1, which links back to the pages for those resources. Modder #2 likes modder #1's work but wants to change it a bit so he creates a derivative version. This automatically links back to the original (and the original links to it) and also inherits the links from Mod #1. This gives modder #2 a bit of exposure and also introduces people to Mod #1 if they see modder #2's work first.
The best part is that none of this is game-specific so it can accommodate more than just Doom. You could even have cross-game sprite and resource use etc.

>> No.5860543

>>5860539
Also: Obviously this site would need moderators, can't be done totally automatically, but assuming the community has the ability to report and the moderators aren't total fucksticks it wouldn't be overly hard to curate. It's not like there's that much content of this type being made.

>> No.5860546

>>5859312
Heretic but you actually get to fight dragons in the later levels.

>> No.5860569
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>>5856727
>Duke 3D 64 gets censored in a number of areas during production
>But neither Doom64, Quake 1 or Quake 2 for N64 get censored.

>> No.5860578

>>5860530
Big mods tend to come with rips from modern games. Audio and such. Can cause problems.

>> No.5860579

>>5860569
DN64 was censored of drugs and sexual content. Apparently it's bad to have a woman naked and tied up on a spire for titilation, but it's completely fine to have that same woman sprite now torn in half gorily and messily.

>> No.5860581

>>5860546
you get to fight one dragon in hexen at least

>> No.5860589

>>5860578
Easy way around this: Don't host the actual mods on-site. Just tell people to get a MEGA or something and allow them to link it there. Have a disclaimer saying that you take no responsibility for what's in those files.

>> No.5860593

>>5860539
Yeah. That makes sense. I'll look into the creative common licenses and just mention it during the upload process.
The collab stuff seems very feature creepy, but later on it sounds like a good idea.
As for the resource database / repo I think it'd be a good idea to have some kind of tagging. So actual mods and maps and what have you are labeled as such, but spriting resources are properly tagged.
Multi-game support is something I really want though.
>>5860589
Kind of missing the point I think.

>>5860578
Yeah, and I'll find a way to deal with it accordingly. Either comply with proper DMCA stuff or just put a bold disclaimer that I personally do not own the stuff uploaded here or something.

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>>5860579

>> No.5860596

>>5860593
>Kind of missing the point I think
In what way? This is exactly how forums do it to avoid liability. It forces the lawyers to go after the actual hosting site (who also have proper lawyers) if they want material removed. Prevents bullshit like C&Ds over obviously fair use stuff.

>> No.5860598

>>5860596
Because it'll end up being no different than using an already established forum to post your stuff, and will offer non of the things I have in mind in regards to basic version control, as well as easily accessible backups for the public.

>> No.5860604

>>5860598
I don't think you're thinking about this creatively enough. You can easily pass the actual file links through a middle layer to attach metadata to them before presentation to support things like version numbers. Backups should be mostly the author's choice but there's no reason why you couldn't keep old version links around. Sure, they might die, but so might everything. The only way around that is P2P.
All the links are is where to find the actual files, you can do the rest yourself with relative ease.

>> No.5860609

Doom 64 confirmed

>> No.5860612

Doom 64 confirmed for Switch. Looks weird so bright.

>> No.5860615

>>5860612

Maybe it's also remade in Unity

>> No.5860616

Where can I find masterlevels.wad ? the official compilation that is.

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/MASTERLEVELS.WAD

>> No.5860623
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Still a chance for Doomguy..

>> No.5860624

>>5860616
In every /doom/ thread. Up top.

>> No.5860626 [DELETED] 

>>5860623
smashniggers need to die, I really don't want those smelly autists lorefagging it up in here too.

>> No.5860627

>>5860623
Too risky I'd say
Could happen and would be nice even though I don't play those games

>> No.5860630

>>5860616
Unless there's another reason you need it, you're better off with the loose wads & wadsmoosh

>> No.5860636

>>5860623
it would be doomslayer if they did it at all
i personally hope they don't put him in, i don't need shitty meme spam from both nu-doom zoomers and smash zoomers

>> No.5860640

>miscalculated patch time
>now have to wait a week for hunter's confirmation
hold me /arena/ remnants

>> No.5860645

>>5860623
somebody please ban roster discussion

>> No.5860650

>>5860623
Can't believe nobody has said it yet.
NOT RETRO
O
T

R
E
T
R
O

>> No.5860653

And in crying about it, the roster discussion was continued.

>> No.5860658

>>5860645
>>5860650
based.

>> No.5860662

>>5860623
fuck no I don't want smash secondaries in here

>> No.5860663

>>5860609
>>5860612
>>5860615
Also not retro

>> No.5860664

>>5860663
How much semen do you consume a day?

>> No.5860668

>>5860663

>Doom 64
>not retro despite originally releasing in 1997

>> No.5860669
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>>5860663
Eat a dick smashnigger

>> No.5860672

>>5860663
The remake isn't, I suppose.

>> No.5860673

>>5860645
Report and ignore, if you dare.

>> No.5860676

>>5860663
I mean it's shit, but it's still a port of a game from the 90s.

>> No.5860679

>>5860663
if you can't talk about ports then a large chunk of this thread is not allowed

>> No.5860681

>>5860604
I'm not a fan on relying on others for something as sensitive as pseudo preservation.

>> No.5860685

>>5860673
I meant sitewide, not just here
but like wojacks, that ain't happening

>> No.5860689

>>5860679
People talk about Doom 2016/Eternal all the time to be fair (even in this very thread) and it's never called out.

>> No.5860691

>>5860689
delete this.

>> No.5860692

>>5860310
There are a couple of times I used the sachels. Most notably On a Rail has a couple of elevators that lead to point blank soldier ambushes, so dropping a sachel on them and detonating once it reaches the top is great for clearing the places out.

>> No.5860693

>>5860623
If he ever does get added, the reveal trailer will hopefully include DoomGuy___ beating the absolute shit out of all the other characters in an overtly brutal manner.

it'd be hilarious

>> No.5860694

>>5860689
Maybe they mean game franchises created in retro eras?
But then that would also include SSB...

>> No.5860695

>>5860681
Then you need to incur risk. It's a binary choice.

>> No.5860696

Does id even own the source code for Doom64?

>> No.5860698

>>5860693
I mean there's nothing stopping a Doomguy from having the Slayer armor as a costume.

>> No.5860703

>>5860696
I don't think so. I think this port is done by Night Dive. They liked a tweet about it just now
https://twitter.com/NightdiveStudio/likes
And also made a bunch of tweets about Doom 64 a few weeks ago. Plus Doom64 EX being made by Kaiser.
It DOES look very bright though...

>> No.5860706

>>5859787
since unreal was already mentioned, turok 2

>> No.5860708

>>5860267
alf doom when

>> No.5860710

>>5860708
>Picked up a chainsaw! Find some cat meat!

>> No.5860721

>>5860594
USA is indeed often weirded out-iffy about overt nudity in video games, especially on console games. Its balanced compared to Australia, New Zealand, Cuba, and most of the Middle East in that area, though.

>> No.5860734

i know it's too early to say, but do we know if kaiser worked on Doom 64, or is this bethesda doing their own port?

>> No.5860736

>>5860734
It's probably an official version of D64EX.

>> No.5860741
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Smash fags please consider hanging yourselves tonight

>> No.5860749

>>5860741
I hope he gets in so you blow a blood vessel.

>> No.5860751

didn't realize majority of the thread are teenagers from 2010

>> No.5860754
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5860754

Can confirm the new port is by Nightdive.
https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/doom-64-switch/#game-info

>> No.5860757

>>5860741
based.

>> No.5860760

>>5860757
Based on what?

>> No.5860761

>>5860760
On a very cool anon. B)

>> No.5860763

>>5860754
Shame it's launching the same day as Eternal.

>> No.5860767

>>5860763
All I know for sure is: the people buying Doom 64 will be getting a better game.

>> No.5860768

>>5860623
I've already lost hope and accepted that he's not in.
I like to justify it with that Bethesda could fuck it up somehow.
>Mostly Doom 2016 stuff, not even Eternal inspiration on moveset
>References to old Doom are really basic and almost rare
>No Bobby Prince tracks
>No Doom 64, even with the official Switch release
>Doom 3 stuff is specifically meant to represent the BFG edition
>Some forced meme
>Final Smash might not even be the BFG900 being used in a first person prespective
>Spirits are random characters nobody cares about besides Hayden or Daisy
>Something that comes off as historical revisionism

>> No.5860775

>>5860768
Yeah, that's probably a fair call.

>> No.5860779

>>5860767
Thanks for the laugh, I needed that.

>>5860734
Kaiser's been all giddly over it these past couple months so it's most likely his.

>> No.5860782

>>5860594
People are weird about that, I'd blame lingering puritanism, the mindset still exists even in people who aren't of that denomination or even particularly religious at all.
On the flip side, when you get Americans making stuff rated for an adult audience you sometimes actually do get very fun and racy things like Duke Nukem 3D, From Beyond, and Return Of The Living Dead.
The censorship in the Nintendo 64 port is well, because of Nintendo.

You can find weird things like that in some cultures. For instance, in Japan, drug use is a *seriously* taboo subject, if you wanted to make a work which would be considered very edgy to a Japanese audience, it would be a stoner comedy, even whacky tobacky is seen as obscene.
Looking at Germany, there's not perhaps so much a cultural mindset, but established censorship guidelines are VERY strict in regards to fictional violence against human beings, which is where the meme comes from about zombies and robots. Doom has green blood in the GBA versions because of Germany, and if you look at Half-Life, human violence is widely censored, the grunts are replaced with robots, and scientists don't die, they just sit down and then shake their head if you try to interact with them.
Of course there's also the matter of exhibiting 'unconstitutional imagery' outside of documentary contexts (where Doom got censored in various ways, Wolfenstein was banned, and you saw some peculiar censorship with Indiana Jones), but you know where that history came from.

Sometimes a collective neurosis just takes hold in a culture, or the establishment acts particularly anal about some things, or both.

>> No.5860796

>>5860767
But I'll be buying both.

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>>5860663

>> No.5860815

>>5860763
>>5860767
Why can’t people just buy both?

>> No.5860817

>>5860815
I probably will end up with both, but it just seems like it's being thrown out there to die. People who aren't already largely invested in the series aren't going to go for the port over a new game.

>> No.5860827

>>5860817
It's most likely going for 5 bucks.

>> No.5860828

>>5860817
I'll be honest I'm just glad it is out there. I'm sure Bethesda's expectations for sales must be fairly low but getting Kaiser to port Doom64 EX to Switch can't have cost much.
I don't even have a Switch but it's nice the game is getting some form of recognition as it is a very good game still.

>> No.5860829

Now every video game journalist and Youtuber will have to edit articles and videos where they didn't mention Doom 64 at all.

>> No.5860832

>>5860736
it's probably unity like the other two

>> No.5860836

>>5860832
It's almost certainly not, I don't know why they'd do that when Kaiser works at Nightdive and they made this port.

>> No.5860837

>>5860754
>>5860832
disregard that, I suck demon cocks

>> No.5860841

>>5860832
The only thing that was Unity iirc was the credits sequence or some such.

>> No.5860843

>>5860827
Seems low - the Switch tax is a real thing. Turok/Turok 2 go for $20. Each.

>> No.5860846

>>5860843
That'll kill sales too

>> No.5860848

>>5860829
truly we live in a society

>> No.5860849

>>5860843
Doom 1 and 2 went on for 5 though

>> No.5860851

>>5860843
Both of those are $20 on Steam.

>> No.5860852

>>5860841
Unity was a wrapper of sorts. The game was 100% accurate, they just did an extremely sloppy job porting it over, lacked polish.

>> No.5860861

>>5860852
It's not unlike the Xbox ports, that had new menus.

>> No.5860862

>>5860829
What?

>> No.5860863

>>5860827
lmao if you actually believe that.

>> No.5860867
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5860867

I'm trying to use vanilla essence, how do I make the game look more crispier?

>> No.5860869

>>5860837
hot

>> No.5860872

>>5860867
using crispy doom of course

>> No.5860873

>>5860863
Why don't you 'lmao' to yourself either way, I'm not going to mind.

>> No.5860875

>>5860873
I am tho.

>> No.5860879

I do wonder if the new D64 port could get new features.
Like, certain options and fixes or even new levels.

>> No.5860880

>>5860879
Isn't that what EX already is?

>> No.5860881

>>5860872
but I want to use gzdoom for better mod support

>> No.5860883

I like that they bumped up the brightness so you could make out the image.

>> No.5860884

>>5860881
it was a joke anon

>> No.5860886

>>5860883
Yeah, I actually do like that. The original nshitty4 version is legitimately dark to the point of unbearable to me.

>> No.5860890

>/vr/
>Switch

>> No.5860891

>>5860863
lmao if you don't.

>> No.5860893

shadow warrior source port when

>> No.5860894

>>5860779
>Kaiser's been all giddly
well deserved.
glad bethesda didn't dick him over

>> No.5860896

>>5860893
It's weird to me that Shadow Warrior and Blood can't just use eDuke32. I mean, aren't they essentially just total conversion wads of Duke?

>> No.5860901

>>5860896
isn't Duke just a total conversion of William shatners tekwar?

>> No.5860902

>>5860896
They added new code IIRC

>> No.5860903

>>5860901
kek, I honestly didn't realize that came before dook.

>> No.5860904

>>5860884
I know, I thought if you replied you'd give me an actual response

>> No.5860923

>>5860896
When people licensed the Build engine, they got the bare basics of what was necessary to create a game. Not a fully-functional game ready for them to modify like the Doom engine. So every game had to have its own custom code for AI, weaponry, etc. Except for Redneck Rampage because it actually is built on Duke Nukem.

>> No.5860932

>>5860886
>nshitty4
ur just mad it wasnt on the gaystation!

>> No.5860952

Playing TNT: Evilution for the first time and am I a brainlet or are the levels really big? I just finished MAP20 in 26 minutes and the few last maps all were in the 15-20 minute range

>> No.5860961
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5860961

>>5860867
Low res mode
Palette
Choose the right compatibility mode

>> No.5860975

>>5860904
tone map mode: palette
sector light mode: software
banded sw lightmode: on
particle style: square
texture filter mode: none (nearest mipmap)
anisotropic filter: off
video mode>scale factor: 0.25

>> No.5860980
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5860980

>>5860961
That thumbnail looks like an evil face with glowing red eyes.

>> No.5860983

>>5860980
the demons were just in your head all along

>> No.5860984

>>5860975
>texture filter mode: none (nearest mipmap)
I meant: texture filter mode: none

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5860996

>>5860983

>> No.5861007

>>5860980
Could it be? The Icon of Entryway?

>> No.5861014

>>5859768
Those are what I don't want to get, I don't trust any of the fuckers to give objective feedback that way.

Just look at some of the recent mods and maps made by chicks, even other developers go easy on them for shit they'd call out if it were made by a dude.

>> No.5861017
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5861017

>>5861007

>> No.5861027

>>5861014
Fair enough, but post your shit sometime when people don't know you're a woman then.

>> No.5861032

>>5861014
I don't give a shit who makes a mod, I care more about the content.

>> No.5861034

>>5861014
well look at the bright side, at least you are not a dude pretending to be a woman, those get pampered a lot more
right

>> No.5861038

>>5861014
Just post it instead of making a case next time.

>> No.5861043
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5861043

>>5859093
OH SHIT I JUST CRACKED THE CODE
TERM WAS A CHICK THIS WHOLE TIME

OH NO

>> No.5861045

>>5859054
Personally? None, really. Talked to at least 2 on a few occasions, but I wouldn't say I KNEW them.

>> No.5861047

>>5859069
>sexy trannys
Not in 3D...

>> No.5861051

>>5859069
I need you to never post again please

>> No.5861067

Im stuck on the Living End, I cant get past that cyberdemon/pain elemental rush early in the level

>> No.5861081

>>5860952
just tried map 20 myself and quit after dying in that lost souls/revanant room because i couldnt be assed to start again. i can see why it takes a long time, they they so many enemies at you, one around pretty much every corner. it's a really map design with the computers at the desks, but the enemy placement is really tedious

>> No.5861091

>>5861081
Is that Habitat? it's been a while but that map is fucking terrible. It gets better after though.

>> No.5861101

>>5861091
central processing

>> No.5861110
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5861110

>>5859069
Go to bed Mark

>> No.5861114

>>5859096
imagine the smell

>> No.5861201

>>5860754
>playing doom
>with a controller
we use EX for a reason

>> No.5861208

>>5859054
Is Rachel a girl?

>> No.5861223

>>5861208
if you ignore her penis, yes

>> No.5861230

>>5861223
>her penis
pls

>> No.5861240

>>5861110
Not retro.

>> No.5861284

>>5860054
Nice comfy music

>> No.5861350

>>5858113
>so it doesen't really count
How? It's a cutscene, it's viewed from a third person perspective, thus it's a third person cutscene.

>> No.5861367

>>5861240
Hush.

>> No.5861374
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5861374

>>5861367

>> No.5861375

>>5861350
Yes, but the way some people entered panic mode was as if there's actual character interactions viewed through the 3d person camera, while in reality it was a simple exposition shot, and that's it. No need to get your knickers in a twist about that.

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5861401

>>5861043
You didn't know?

>> No.5861415

>>5861401
Yeah I thought everyone knew this, along with Kegan being black

>> No.5861513

>>5860431
Thats a doomseeker screenshot showing a private server, not an imageboard thread.

>> No.5861607

Demonsteele or GMOTA?

>> No.5861612
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5861612

>>5861607
Why not both?

>> No.5861668
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5861668

I kinda like the timeloop gimmick they're going for in Eternal, it's a neat way to make rebooting in Doom4 make sense. Though, does that now mean that this is the third time Doomguy has had to fight off demons on mars (first in the original and second as the ancient martian hero in Doom3's timeline)?

>> No.5861671

>>5861612
At the same time

>> No.5861672

NEW THREAD
>>5861667
>>5861667
>>5861667

>> No.5861673
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5861673

>>5861668
Is this accurate?

>> No.5861697

>>5861673
Doom 3 was an attempt at rebooting the story, so it should be added as a "prequeling" reality, alternative to Doom 1.

>> No.5861767

>>5861513
>>5860350
retard

>> No.5861828

>>5861673
Missing Wolfenstein 2009. Also at least the X-Labs levels from RTCW definitely happened according to BJ in New Order.

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