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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>5846813

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom, Quake, Duke, Marathon, or Thief:
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=17fEEr969NzxgqPBVl0M0stXZxTjegRbZ


Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4

Launchers for Build Engine games
http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
https://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

>> No.5852239

=== ONGOING ===

H.U.H. - /vr/ Quake Mapping Project
-Current release, final unless bugs are spotted
-https://mega.nz/#!znJVlAiJ!CfsIcjb1Z_hDcesCaUKOkCcRJlgUhLmf49T6RVYCbUU

=== NEWS ===

[9-1] OTEX, a resource of textures and flats released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103426-otex-texture-set-%E2%80%93-update-version-10-released/

[9-1] Fraggle's 'Miniwad' released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/108721-miniwadwad-a-minimalist-iwad

[8-29] Joe Rogan interviews John Carmack
https://youtu.be/udlMSe5-zP8

[8-27] Anon releases his unfinished project, free for cannibalizing
https://gofile.io/?c=7iv0Zp

[8-26] Ion Fury devs claim upcoming patch is not censoring content
https://steamcommunity.com/games/562860/announcements/detail/1616150570017627014

[8-25] Final Doomer 3.1 releases with Hellbound, Alien Vendetta, and Whitemare-themed weapon sets
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=55061

[8-23] Paradise v2 final version out
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/106058-paradise-v2-final-version-8222019/

[8-23] Doom Mobile RPG page taken down, reuploaded to Mega
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4

[8-22] James and ClintLGR made an Chex AVGN video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg0y9i5E7nY

[8-22] Anon uploads obscure retro FPS'
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac

[8-21] SM200 for Quake released, mixed themes
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61762

[8-20] Anon releases his commercial shovelware compilation, all extracted
https://drive.google.com/open?id=17fEEr969NzxgqPBVl0M0stXZxTjegRbZ

[8-18] Hell-Forged released
https://twitter.com/AmuscariaArts/status/1162968692357025792

[8-17] Oni gameplay mod Naku Naru 1.1 relesed
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=65276

=== PREVIOUS ===

https://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

== PROTIP ==

To submit news, please reply and anchor it to this post.

>> No.5852243

>>5852239
first for Doom

>> No.5852248
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>> No.5852249

>>5852239
third for Marathon

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>>5852243
>>5852249

Don't fucking spam the news with your shitty posts.

>> No.5852252
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5852252

At what point exactly did the """community""" turn on Brutal Doom?

>> No.5852256

>>5852248
Is this that guide with the blue dude?

>> No.5852259

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo3gnmvh5XQ&t=
can i get vid related to run on windows 10 shitty walmart laptop?

>> No.5852268

>>5852252
When they got triggered by his beliefs.
Doesn't change the fact it's a good mod.

>> No.5852269

>>5852248
>Quantum Leap
Oh boy.

>> No.5852272

ion fury... now THAT was a game...

>>5852268
is he right or leftwing?

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>>5852248

Nah, that's 3D Game Alchemy. This is The Doom Hackers Guide.

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>>5852269

I had a quick look for it but couldn't find the wad :(

>> No.5852286

What do you do when you've hit a wall imagination wise with your map?

>> No.5852289

>>5852286
Take a break and come back to it later.

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>>5852286

I have a folder called 'sketching' for when I want to map but not for my current project. I just doodle stuff there and often it sparks something that I end up using in my actual project.

>> No.5852293

>>5852289
I took a break but now I'm even worse off than I was.

>> No.5852294

>>5852272
I don't keep up with the community because I personally thing they're too stuck up, but iirc he said some "disturbing and offensive" things. Like encouraging someone to suicide and simply taking on actions to offend people.

Either way, he made a good mod and project brutality, imo, is an upgrade of brutal doom.

>> No.5852301

>>5852274
why nobody wants to scan these level editing books? thats material that needs to be preserved too!

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>>5852301

Exactly what I'm doing man :) Got all the editing books coming in the mail and gonna hit up Auckland Uni to help digitize em. Dw they'll be up as soon as I can suss it.

>> No.5852330

>>5852268
It's decent (or rather, was once) with some very questionable design choices and some rather offish spritework. The whole ordeal with mark's reputation was a bit of an overreaction frankly, I don't really care what or who he is in the least in a world where everyone is looking to out-edge one another in the first place.

Besides there's far more interesting stuff out there. I won't waste my breath arguing over it on any basis.

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5852331

is this little crap good for something or am I an idiot?

>> No.5852335

>>5852331
what grafx mod is this?

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>>5852331

>> No.5852337
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>>5852331

Nade launcher ammo.

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>>5851954
I'M SO FUCKING TIRED OF LOOKING AT IDBASE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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5852342

Any guides on how to get Descent set up?

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I thought this was a western game (set in the 19 century)

>> No.5852349

>>5852312
Really!? Thanks man! wish you luck!

>> No.5852351

>>5852335
Literally in the screenshot

>> No.5852353

>>5852268
I wouldn't call it good. It's extremely feature bloated now, and then back in the early days the balance was fucked.
It serves as a gateway mod for people who never seen a Doom mod before and it's commonly popular amongst normals.
That said, I started with playing it and moved on.

>> No.5852356

>>5852337
oh, well, I'm just in the third unit

>> No.5852363

>>5852251
don't piss on the lid, please

>> No.5852365

>>5852353
It's good because that's what everyone was playing for a time. The only people who deny it are people that have something against it. The fact these threads had regulars who would put down people who brought up brutal doom kind of shows it was good. Otherwise, people wouldn't have played the hell out of it. It does make the game feel like a different game thought, but that's not a bad thing.

>> No.5852369

>>5852365
>it's good because it's popular

>> No.5852373

>>5852259
yes, turn down the resolution

>> No.5852378

>>5852342
https://www.gog.com/forum/descent_series/descent_1_2_faq_please_read/page1

>> No.5852383

>>5852369
Typically how it goes. If you believe it's a degenerative state, that speaks more about our current environments than it does the individual since 99% of people are lemmings that go with the flow.

>> No.5852394

>>5851868
>>5851801
so do I have to embed them into the map file or something?

>> No.5852403

>>5852369
>it's bad because it's popular.

>> No.5852413

>>5852403
Who are you quoting

>> No.5852414

>>5852413
I think that's how he perceived it.

>> No.5852416

>>5852279
Holy shit I love this picture. I know this is a very specific category, but do you have any more comp level memes by any chance?

>> No.5852427

>>5850970
>PRBoom in fact samples mouse as much as framerate allows and updates visuals accordingly, just like ZDoom.
It doesn't. If you can't notice it, good for you, but why make that claim when you obviously don't know if it's fact?

Latest PrBoom+ source from https://svn.prboom.org/repos/branches/prboom-plus-24/prboom2 (needs svn client to dl the full repo). The ONLY place in the code where mouse input is polled is I_GetEvent in src/SDL/i_video.c (and some stuff in TEXTSCREEN directory but that's some old text output mode and not relevant). I_GetEvent is called only by I_StartTic - which is, unsurprisingly, called only when new tics need to be processed so no more than 35 times per second.

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5852428

>tfw we never got a proper quake 3 single player because of carmack's autism

>> No.5852430

>>5852394
Nevermind. Did more digging and found out that you basically can't mix OTEX textures with the vanilla set in anything "lesser" than GZDoom.

>> No.5852432

>>5852428
>tfw no turok ripoff with hunter and sorlag

>> No.5852435

>>5852427
Not the guy you're replying to, but I'm curious - >>5850307

>How come speedrunners and all those folks rock Crispy and PRBoom on uncapped framerates doing amazing shit all the time though? I mean, if they can pull off the sort of feats they do on those ports, 28ms certainly can't be that significant right? Or ZDoom derivatives would be preferred for top tier gameplay. The demo thing aside, I guess.

>> No.5852439

>>5852356
you can toss nades without the launcher, they are an inventory item as well

>> No.5852454
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5852454

Which is better, dook 3d or shadow warrior?

>> No.5852457

>>5852439
that's why I asked if they are crap or what, it takes a decade to throw and another to explode

>> No.5852458

>>5852454
Apples and oranges.

>> No.5852460

>>5852458
but which do you prefer?

>> No.5852462

Shadow Warrior was never good

>> No.5852467

>>5852454
game play = shadow warrior
everything else = duke

>> No.5852470

>>5852467
Shadow Warrior has anime titties though.

>> No.5852471

>>5852460
I personally prefer Shadow warrior. I really like the grenade launcher and sword, riot shotgun.

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>>5852348
is this normal?

>> No.5852481

>>5852478
Well it's not specular

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>>5852238
Give me your DSSECRET sounds, /doom/. Whatcha usin'?

Randi's default Bell sound, or something else?

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>>5852481

>> No.5852496

>>5852454
Shadow Warrior for me.

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Is the "Doom The Way id Did" actually good or not? I've heard mixed things

As far as I know these are the entries
>Doom The Way id Did (E1-E3 replacement)
>Ultimate Doom The Way id Did (E4 replacement)
>Doom The Way id Did: The Lost Episodes (E1-E6 replacement)
>Doom 2 The Way id Did (MAP01-MAP32 replacement)

And what do you think of these projects in a similar vein?
>Doom 2 In Name Only
>Doom 2 Reloaded
>Ultimate Needs More Detail

Are there any others you are aware of?

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>somebody makes a map
>that guy plays it
>always picks UV
>says it's too hard

>> No.5852520

>>5852435
The difference is just not that great I guess. Input lag can come from many sources and <28ms might just be a small part of the total. ZDoom's mouse input only enhances quick aiming, not seeing monsters' positions or anything else. As for capped framerate, low fps is also a downside simply because of how it's harder to see stuff. On the other hand these details might not even be known to those who'd like to try to optimize everything about their setups.

>> No.5852526

>>5852243
>first for doom

These threads were originally just Doom until we let other games in out of pity and now they shit it up with whiny bullshit.

>> No.5852530

>>5852495
I'd recommend just fucking around with the graphics options. Like HL there should be software, DirectX, and OpenGL renderers, one of them might work without problems. Great game btw.

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>>5852439

Also, I think in Q2 RTX they might be broken? Mine just fall at my feet every time ;s

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>>5852331

>> No.5852550

>>5852517
I feel physical pain when I see someone playing Doom on Ultra-Violence and clearly having a very very hard time at it, specially if it's their first time.

Like dude, swallow that pride, just play on Hurt Me Plenty. Who cares.

>> No.5852565

>>5852517
Well original dewms were easy on UV so some automatically assume the same about the maps.

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>>5852337
>>5852439
now we are talking

>> No.5852575

>>5852504
DTWID is mostly good, but too many maps are kinda generic and lack any personality.
UDTWID is good. Probably their most focused release.
DTWID TLE has some good maps, but suffers the same issue I have with DTWID. Gameplay also isn't as consistent.
D2TWID is good. Has a bit more personality in some of its maps. I've seen some people consider its Petersen style maps better than Petersen's actual doom 2 maps.

D2INO is honestly VERY hit or miss. Suffers a bit from "Community Chest" syndrome.
Doom 2 Reloaded isn't in the same vein at all, IMO. Its decent, though.
Haven't played Needs More Detail to comment

>> No.5852576

>>5852478
lol, the way that video starts off it appears like you're looking at a ceiling.

>> No.5852579

>>5852550
People that start off like that and persist ends up becoming some of the best.

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>>5852573
I'd really like to have more time to play, I have pain in my keyboard hand, this never happens

>> No.5852593

I don't know where to ask this so I guess you guys might know

What's the best, easiest, most intuitive level editor that could make maps I could port into the Source engine? or the easiest level editors for any engines for that matter. Is there any way I could use something like TrenchBroom and port it into GoldSrc/Source

>> No.5852606

>>5852478
All that aliasing gives cancer.

>> No.5852609

>>5852593
on that note, would porting Doom and Doom 2 to source be worthwhile?

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>>5851954
This one's coming together very slowly.

>> No.5852613

>>5852609
>on that note, would porting Doom and Doom 2 to source be worthwhile?
As worthwhile as Bethesda porting Doom inside Unity.

>> No.5852620

>>5852454
>take these $10k and get dialeted tranny
what are you 14? fucking hell, go back to /v/ if you can't sit at the grown-up's table.

>> No.5852629

>>5852609
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2yPfWXPIs0

>> No.5852639

>>5852620
this is getting out of hand

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>>5852629
>Summoning ALF
lel that video was fun

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>>5852613

>> No.5852659

>>5852238
What's the best way to play Doom? I usually play using GZDoom and I enjoy it.

>> No.5852661

>>5852550
I'm pretty sure GGmanlives does this, he complained about Ion Fury not having enough ammo and being too hard, but he played first time on the hardest difficulty.

I played on it's medium difficulty and had ammo galore. It's just so fucking annoying that after years of picking UV automatically, doomers have accustomed themselves to always doing it without being aware they're picking the hardest difficulty (nightmare is more of a different game mode)

>> No.5852662

>>5852659
The best way is the way you get the most fun out of it, personally I use Zandronum and play co-op with my friends.

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>>5852659

Depends entirely on what feel you're going for. Personally, I play most wads on glboom+ as it feels the cleanest. I also play a lot on Crispy Doom @320x200 for that classic feel (esp. with older megawads). I use GZDoom for weapon/monster mods.

>> No.5852668

>>5852661
He did the same with SIGIL.

>> No.5852669

>>5852668
>>5852661
Looks like GGmanlives is the third most shitted person in the retro fps threads, after Graf Zahl and SgtMarkIV.

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>>5852668

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWzlyCg7tQw

>> No.5852674 [DELETED] 

>>5852670
There's your ammo problem. He's holding the trigger down on that chaingun. Gotta tap it to conserve ammo.

>> No.5852675

Started making my first Doom map. Playing with lighting levels is surprisingly fun. How do I change the skybox? I want to make a window to see the stars.

>> No.5852679

>>5852661
There actually is plenty of ammo on hard as well. I suspect he just neglected to use any of his weapons besides the pistol & shotgun and then complained when he ran low on ammo for them.

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>>5852582
ok, I can't endure the pain anymore
also, I need to sleep

>> No.5852686

>>5852675
If only want a single sky throughtout the level then you need to replace the F_SKY1 in the wad files (you can use slade3 for this)
but if you want multiple skys in a level you can use a sky transfer, linedef 271 iirc, put the sky as the upper texture on this line and any tagged sectors will use the selected sky - this is for Boom compatible maps but if you’re using UDMF theres probably a far easier way but im not familiar with UDMF myself

>> No.5852689

>>5852686
Thank you, that was helpful.

>> No.5852690

>>5852686
>>5852689
>If only want a single sky throughtout the level then you need to replace the F_SKY1 in the wad files (you can use slade3 for this)
F_SKY1 is only the representation of sky in the editor. The actual sky is a texture called RSKY1.

>> No.5852701

>>5852670
>the blood no longer hurts
Nice touch.

>> No.5852707

>>5852701
When I first found out that flat was blood I assumed you were walking on blood with aids or something in the original game. So full of aids it became caustic.

>> No.5852709

>>5852669
>Graf Zahl
What did he do?

>> No.5852716

>>5852709
It's drama, dude.
I couldn't care less, because I don't use GZDOOM.

>> No.5852717

>>5852682
how does this look in motion?

>> No.5852728

>>5852709
More like, what he didn't do. A good, well-optimized port, for example.

>> No.5852730

>>5852707
I just imagined it was demon blood whenever it hurts.

>> No.5852731

>>5852709
autism

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Since the interest seemed to be decent last thread and it was suggested, consider the Heretic mapping project started!
Coordination will be mostly taking place in Discord, so if you want to join the "fun," link is right here. Join the server if you want to map, test, help otherwise, or just watch: https://discord.gg/BBPnHM8

>> No.5852745

>>5852732
Also tagging the OP so this can get added to ongoing >>5852238

>> No.5852752

>>5852620
this is the grown-up's table? coulda fooled me

>> No.5852760

>>5852716
>>5852728
>>5852731
So my guess is he made the popular source port and people dislike him just for that. Or for the problems they have with source port itself.

>> No.5852770

>>5852760
It's not JUST for that. There are multiple accounts of him being against various feature requests and mod compatibility.
Plus, the entire Lilith.pk3 situation, when he went absolutely fucking nuclear because someone dares to use an outdated version of sourceport he's working on for their mod.

>> No.5852772
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5852772

Wow. Kama Sutra is fucking stupid.

>> No.5852782

>>5852770
Wasn't the entire point of lilith to abuse weird glitches anyway?

>> No.5852784

>>5852782
Yes, which only worked in a very specific version of the sourceport. It even had a special warning at the beginning that you should not use it with GZDoom. Which triggered transformation of Graf Zahl into Gross Salz.

>> No.5852790

>>5852784
Holy shit I just looked up lilith.pk3 graf zahl and found https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1010906
This is beautiful autism

>> No.5852794
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5852794

>>5852790
Never forget.

>> No.5852798
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5852798

>>5852548
>>5852573
>>5852682

>> No.5852802

>>5852794
>I think the best way to deal with obnoxious modders is to stigmatize them as losers. Sorry, but stuff like this is just retarded. (Of course this 'mod' is retarded anyway so no big loss.)
>Of course this 'mod' is retarded anyway so no big loss.
>no big loss.
Oh hey this came out in 2017, I wonder what was considered the best map of the year? I'll just stroll down to the old Doomworld and check and-
>https://www.doomworld.com/24years/best1.php

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjedLeVGcfE

>> No.5852812

>>5852252
After v19 (around 2013) when it got MODDB award (because there was a mod draught). And every single media outlet ran terrible articles about it, attributing most common source port features (like uncapped framerate, jump, ability to look around etc) as Mark's personal achievement that pushed doom modding several light years ahead.

Community laughed at it, but then hundreds of lemmings went pouring onto the forums telling everyone to "go play BD", "do you know about BD", and "does it play with BD?". Obviously that didn't sit well with the community. That's one of many thereasons.

>> No.5852813

>>5852772
Makes terry wads looks not as bad.

>> No.5852815

>>5852790
Now you know the chicken brains.

>> No.5852816

>>5852365
>It's good because that's what everyone was playing for a time
>Twilight novels are good
>50 shades of grey are good
>Michael Bay movies are masterpieces
>CoD are a fucking godsend
>Ass Ass in Creed are good

>> No.5852821

>>5852478
DO you have that HD texture pack from MODDB installed

>> No.5852824
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5852824

>>5852732
>>5852239
>>5852238

fuck yeah

>> No.5852826
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5852826

>>5852816
While what you're saying is true. I didn't really play Brutal Doom that much. I actually played Project Brutality before I even heard of Brutal Doom. I tried it out and went straight back to Project Brutality.

>> No.5852828
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5852828

https://youtu.be/-iKPJUF7LQY
Why

>> No.5852834
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5852834

>GZDOOM, the most popular source port with the normies.
>Graf Zahl, the most hated source port developer for the modders.

>> No.5852839
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5852839

>>5852834
Same with SgtMarkIV, the most popular mod with the normies, the most hated mod by the modders.

PIC RELATED is from the Dakka's mod test map, it made me lol when I found it.

>> No.5852849

>>5852828
That was well-done desu

>> No.5852854

>>5852802
Imagine Graf Zahl seething like the very sperglordcel he is from lilith.pk3 getting a cacoward.

>> No.5852864

>>5852854
The chicken kraut meme script-kiddie is fueled by a high octane mix of envy and autism that only produces lots mediocrity. That's why he'll never master OpenGL coding like a based chad god meta genius like Carmack.

>> No.5852869

>>5852331
Are you tarded?

>> No.5852870

>>5852342
DOS version: your eyes
Everything else: DXX-Rebirth

>> No.5852873
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5852873

>>5852620
Please leave. Thank you.

>> No.5852875

Here's my myfirstmap.wad. I was mostly just playing around with GZDoom Builder, but I am content with the first result. The experience itself was a lot of fun, and hopefully I will do better next time.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/t0ytgdevgcqvw46/DOCKBAY.wad/file

>> No.5852880

>>5852798
Piss off normie

>> No.5852882
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5852882

>>5852875
The layout was alright, but it really lacked enemy variety. It felt like an E1 map in that regard, where the biggest thing you fight is a Pinky and there are only 4 on the map.

>> No.5852883

>>5852882
Thanks for trying it out.
>It felt like an E1 map in that regard
That was the intention.

>> No.5852886

>>5852682
nice normals

>> No.5852887

>>5852883
Maybe I'm spoiled, but it felt a little too safe.

>> No.5852893

>>5852828
autism

>> No.5852898

>>5852864
You can't do shit yourself lol

>> No.5852928

>>5852259
Use performance mode in the mod's options and if you still drop frames don't use that hud

>> No.5852939

>>5852880
What the fuck am I reading? Is using shitty filters some incel thing now? In that case, have sex.

>> No.5852953

>>5852268
The taking offense with his views on shit are mostly just an excuse for the people who don't want to admit they're pissed that a mod got that popular without doing what they feel was enough to deserve it.

These days the community shit with it is just a bogeyman, and a lot of the facts have been Chinese whispered into being all over the place.

There's better things to do than being pissed about any single dude for one of their mods, but that's what the community like to get up to these days.

>> No.5852954
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5852954

>>5852239
Doom 4 Vanilla released.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkoTL8tH_90
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/108725-doom-4-vanilla-dehacked-project/

>> No.5852959

>>5852790
>>5852794
What'll always stick with me is at the top of the project board is a notice saying non-GZDoom mods are welcome. I guess it doesn't apply to ZDoom mods on the ZDoom forum.

>> No.5852960

>>5852954
>someone wasted lifetime creating this

>> No.5852961

>>5852331
What, the hand grenades? No, they fucking suck. Arguably useful for if you need to blow something up.

>> No.5852969
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5852969

>>5852331
There's something wrong with your graphics settings

>> No.5852982

>>5852331
>tfw marine sucks at throwing grenades even more than I do.

>> No.5852987

Just finished Ion Fury last night and I think it was pretty awesome. A good take on a "monster spitter" boss that wasn't shit.
Good architecture, too.

>> No.5853004

Ion Fury is the best build game

>> No.5853013
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5853013

Lets talk megawads.
What are your favorite ones? Why?
Did you play any recently? What did you think of it?

>> No.5853015

>>5853013
Alien Vendetta and I haven't played it in years, it's just so fucking great. I think it sits in that near perfect place of gameplay and aesthetics, it looks good without looking like "I'm making doom in 2020 so have to make shit super detailed" but it also doesn't look like it's from 2000

>> No.5853020
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5853020

>>5852238

>> No.5853021

>>5853015
I haven't really played it yet, and I'm interested, but I get the impression it's rather difficult, more difficult than Plutonia, is that true?

>> No.5853023

http://www.mediafire.com/file/7abwpssfr2xhuhm/LearsI%2527s_Judgement.zip/file

>Incomplete

>> No.5853024

>>5853013
The only non-official one I've played so far is Memento Mori, so it's my favorite by default. It feels good in terms of design and difficulty, but I'm stuck on Kinetics now.

>> No.5853026

>>5853021
Not really, I'd perhaps call it "fairer" or "more sensible" in it's difficulty rather than parachuting revenants into areas that don't seem hard enough. Play it on HMP.

>> No.5853039

>>5853026
>parachuting revenants
someone make the mod

>> No.5853040

>>5852875
By myfirstmap.wad standards this is very good, it looks clean. You're clearly competent enough at actualizing your ideas - the dynamic light effect on the door is very cool. However I don't think it plays as well as it looks.
The shotgun secret is sort of redundant as you get given one regardless at the next encounter; I suppose its slightly easier with the shotgun but the difference is negligible imo.
The following secret also feels purposeless, its unlikely that even the worst players will need HP or ammo at that point and something about having two secrets without monster encounters in between tickles me the wrong way.
The fake-out trap is clever but needs to be more vicious: perhaps a pinkie for support or more imps to shield the shotgunners.
The blue-key trap is also too tame, everyone expects a trap on key pickup and this was a by-the-books fake wall - too easy to deal with even using just the pistol.
The blue-door also needs work, you've funneled monsters through a fairly narrow bottleneck which allows players to just hold the trigger and be victorious. What I was expecting was the pinkies to teleport behind me creating a pincer trap, I don't know if that sounds interesting or what you'd want?
I think I liked the starting room the best because it gave off a good first impression considering what you'd usually expect from a first map but that metal texture gets old real fast, you could see a lot of improvement by just re-texturing the blue-key and penultimate rooms.

Anyway its still a cool map and its good enough that I'd be eager to play your next one so mission accomplished.

>> No.5853048

>>5853040
Thank you, that's very informative and helpful. I will make some adjustments to this map before starting a new one. In any case, I will post the updated version here.

>> No.5853050

>>5852717
extremely clean
at least you don't see the denoise being applied like in rtx
or this >>5852478

>> No.5853058
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5853058

>>5852548

>> No.5853059

>>5852954
>100% DEHACKED
oh my

>> No.5853062

>>5852821
I only installed this
https://www.moddb.com/games/gunman-chronicles/downloads/gunman-chronicles-steam-version

>> No.5853071

>>5852828
>when are you gonna learn
fucking manlets

>> No.5853081

>>5852875
I will download this only if you can guarantee me the song isn't D_RUNNIN

>> No.5853085

>>5853081
it uses map26's music

>> No.5853094

>>5852960
>someone wasted lifetime posting this

>> No.5853097
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5853097

>>5852954

>> No.5853108

>>5852954
This probably would've been neater if the weapons were centered, but on a technical level the whole thing looks kinda neat.

>> No.5853110
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5853110

>>5853085
I played through on HMP and UV and would echo much of what >>5853040
said.

Make UV harder and include all the bullshit you were too afraid to include. But I am aware as a first time mapper myself that you get "level creep" where you add more features and more detail and before you know it an afternoon map session turns into a 6 month long procrastination fest.

I'd love to have a guy that makes the map for me, since I can write out an entire 30 minute level in a day but I have level designs in a scrap book that have been there since....gosh...2012 at the earliest.

>> No.5853118

>>5852875
see >>5853110

I (5853085) didn't make the map

>> No.5853134

>>5852954
This reminds me - did anyone make Doom 4 maps as wads for old games? That could be fun to play through.

>> No.5853162

>>5852661
Ammo wasn't even a problem until the very last map IIRC from my playthrough.

>> No.5853163

>>5852491
I use the one from Quake.

>> No.5853164

>>5853134
What, arenas and corridors connected in a linear fashion? Who'd want to play that?

>> No.5853174

>>5853134
Yeah just look online for myfirstwad.wad and you'll find plenty.

>> No.5853182
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5853182

>>5852875
>pinky in the exit room
0/10
I dug it, The lighting was nice, though it was a bit too linear. Great for a first map.

>> No.5853186

>>5852348
It gets better. It has pretty decent levels after the dinosaur first mission.

>> No.5853198

>>5853163
Could you upload that for me please, bruv?

>> No.5853214

>>5852954
Holy shit that looks gorgeous... Sprite work looks as good as original doom. Ripping from 3D is not easy

>> No.5853215

>>5852954
Fuck me that's impressive

>> No.5853218

>>5853198
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/535235566476853259/617741574092095498/secret.wav
Here you go, I guess.

>> No.5853226

>>5853218
thanks

>> No.5853227
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5853227

So I'm playing Arcade Dimensions using Darkplaces

all the maps worked great except ad_sepulcher "the forgotten" won't load.

What do?

>> No.5853231

>>5853227
>What do
Use Quakespasm

>> No.5853234

>>5853227
AD needs Quake's limits raised even further. That's why there was a special version of Quakespasm made for it, until mainline release didn't raise the limits as well.

Darkplaces saw last mainline update back in 2014, and the limits were not raised up to modern standards.

>> No.5853236

>>5853227
>that squished statusbar

>> No.5853237

>>5853227
Are DarkPlaces players the equivalent of GZDoom players with texture filtering enabled

>> No.5853240

>>5853237
No, Dark Places players are equivalent of Doomsday Engine (graphical bling and all that) players who get surprised when their stuff doesen't work.

>> No.5853241
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5853241

>>5853227
>Using DarkPlaces
>Ever

>> No.5853245

So...
I'll give HUH a "you tried"/10
I do hope the authors go on to make more maps. I'll chalk it up as a positive learning experience.

Also was it just me or were some of the maps super duper bright? Like they stacked sunlight all over.

>> No.5853270
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5853270

Daily reminder that someone spend time making this mod

>> No.5853273

>>5853270
Then spent time making a commercial game.

>> No.5853275
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5853275

Is there a way I can make Prboom+ load ZIP files and automatically grab the WAD files within, like GZDoom does?

Or must I always explicitly extract the ZIP and only load the WAD?

>> No.5853280

>>5853241
>>5853231
>>5853237
Darkplaces is a lot smoother than Quakespasm for me; but I guess I'll suffer for this one map

>> No.5853283

I'm doing a quick vanilla UV playthrough just to say I did it. It's pretty boring.
I have vanilla purists of any classic games

>> No.5853292

>>5853283
Vanilla wads get way better with pistol starts. You get way too OP by the third level otherwise.

>> No.5853301

>>5853275
You
Are
Lisa
Simpson.

>> No.5853309

>>5853280
You may have your Quakespasm configured somewhat wrong. On both my workplace toaster and home PC I get about 2-3 times more FPS on Quakespasm than on DP (with all shadow effects off)

>> No.5853316

Aside from Wrath and maybe Prodeus, are there any other upcoming FPS that follow oldschool design principles that I should look forward to?

Already played through Dusk, Amid Evil and Ion Fury.
Amid Evil >> Dusk > IonFury btw.

>> No.5853317

>>5853241
Advance Dimensions is literally made for dark places you sack of shit.
>>5853240
What doesn’t work in it?

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>>5853317

>> No.5853328

>>5853327
Hey I was just about to do that.

>> No.5853330

>>5853301
Huh?

>> No.5853332
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5853332

What do you guys think about
>Smooth Pixel Scaling
>Smooth Diminishing Lighting
in Crispy Doom?

I haven't really noticed a difference yet with those on/off, I may be blind.

>> No.5853336

>>5853317
Quakespasm just like PrBoom+ for big maps, should be faster then Darkplaces.
Just a thought, but try deleting the "config.cfg" in your Arcane Dimensions folder.

>> No.5853338

>>5853317
>Advance Dimensions is literally made for dark places you sack of shit.
Bitch, I remember early releases of AD and they were constantly breaking under DarkPlaces while working as intended in QuakeSpasm.

>> No.5853359

>>5853332
Smooth pixel scaling sorta anti aliases the chunky pixels, just slightly. I don't care fore it, but it might make it less harsh to other peoples eyes.
Smooth diminished lighting just adds more bands to the diminishing lighting. Not really too useful imo either.
How do brightmaps work in Crispy Doom? It doesn't seem to use ZDooms GLDefs lump or anything. Is there a separate wad or pk3 you need or whut.

>> No.5853361

>>5853359
>How do brightmaps work in Crispy Doom?
Magic, I dunno.
I guess the brightmaps are baked in to items or something, dunno.

>> No.5853370

what does the hardcore difficulty do in doom 64 ex? is it nightmare or uv -fast?

>> No.5853374

>>5853359
>>5853361
>How do brightmaps work in Crispy Doom
There's a "flash" mask in vanilla that is always fullbright in all conditions, that's how muzzleflashes for weapons are made.
It is not done in vanilla because it requires to massively edit actors to make it work, which is a lot of finicky shit with DEHACKED, but it can be done.
It was not done before because it breaks all kinds of compatibilities with anything else that uses DEHACKED, but since they are retooling whole roster here that's not an issue.
In GZDoom you don't have to edit actors, just put brightmap with the same name as a sprite in apropriate folder, so it's not that big of a deal there.

>> No.5853375

>>5853273
He only did some sprites for it, and got bitchy about them not censoring the ogay.

>> No.5853379

>>5853374
>"flash" mask in vanilla
Where is this stored?
Are flash masks stored in the balls?

>> No.5853381

>>5853379
AASTINKY is stored in the WADs

>> No.5853382

>>5853381
no, but seriously

>> No.5853386
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5853386

Final Doomer 3.1 is disappointing so far:
- RL+ tier weapons in AV set are bad at crowd control, and this is for megawad which is known for huge hordes. How the heck are you supposed to beat map25 with these?
- Hellbound is another generic ww-doomnukem styled weaponset, why? Could've done something in style of Doom 3, since the megawad is inspired by it. Some chainsaw replacement to illuminate those dark-ass halls, for example.
- Whitemare is ok except for pistol being a huge dong that covers half of the screen. Not fixed in the update.

>> No.5853395
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5853395

>>5853382
>he doesen't know

>> No.5853436

>>5853386
for the first one i'd say you were meant to spam seeing that speed was it's major theme.
For the second one pillowblaster loved hellbound a lot so he did all of the sprites for it
For the last one You can fix it yourself anon

>> No.5853481

>>5852478
I remember having same problem in HL1. Do you have AA or AF forced? Also try fiddling with texture filtering console option. GL_texturemode GL_Nearest etc

>> No.5853483

>>5853375
Sorry to dramapost but... source?

>> No.5853494

>>5853013
Valiant atm. I played it at my last xmas vacation, and I had so fun. Full of interesting encounters, and really enjoyed all those new monsters spicing the combat up. Felt like a whole new game, but still familiar enough to be Doom as I like it.

>> No.5853510

>>5853270
Hopefully he'll finish it too.

>> No.5853512

what games are similar to hexen?

>> No.5853524

>>5853512
Hexen 2

>> No.5853525

>>5853512
Hexen 2
Strife in some ways?

>> No.5853528

>>5852252
use the desuarchive/warosu archives to find links/videos/images of it

>> No.5853532

>tfw you star mastering thy flesh consumed
Haha fuck you shitty rushed episode. You're fun sometimes I'll admit.

>> No.5853538

>>5852268
as far as mod "standards" go, it's a rushed mess that anyone could have made if mark never did it
all it takes is more fore, modern fps features and inspiration from the comic
it's fitting that most critical acclaim arrives from casuals and video game journos

>> No.5853545

>>5852272
>is he right or leftwing?
he's edgy
that's not even a political alignement, but when do people that pretend to care about politics even know what politics are?
see >>5852040

>> No.5853562

>>5852898
You can't neither, Graf. Stop ruining mods, chicken shit brains.

>> No.5853571

>>5853562
I'm not Graf or whatever he's called but at least I had OpenGL certifiaction training. Pay me and I write a new renderer.

>> No.5853573

>>5852959
They put that for virtue signal points only.
In reality Graf would love to destroy anything not tailored for the newest GZDoom version. Chris chan has Sonichu, Graf Zahl has the latest GZDoom.

>> No.5853574

>>5853571
>I'm not Graf
that's exactly what graf would say...

>> No.5853575

I don't really have time to game anymore unfortunately, but i'm curious, how was sigil? What was the general consensus?

>> No.5853582

>>5853575
It was okay. Kinda in the vein of Thy Flesh Consumed's Romero maps. Ending map was really disappointing, but the rest was alright for Doom 1 mapping. Would have preferred a Doom 2 WAD for the extra monsters and SSG, but hey, what can ya do.

>> No.5853585

>>5853582
I kind of figured it'd just be another TFC

>> No.5853589

>>5853316
Ultrakill looks to be Daeomonsteele as a fully fledged game
https://twitter.com/ULTRAKILLGame/status/1167525500752990210?s=19

>> No.5853594

>>5853575
Sigil is pretty good for a singleplayer campaign but the multiplayer has a few terrible maps.
Try out a mod called Golden Souls The More Definitive Edition, and if you're looking for more try the sequel andor even look into the third one that's coming out which is promising to bring more sandbox like levels to the forefront.
>www.mediafire.com/file/n0ndh842d761a3y/GoldenSouls_Full_1.4.pk3/file

>> No.5853596
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5853596

>>5853575
Check /our guy/'s video for The Definitive and Official /vr/ Take™.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A-7MaR8PpI

>> No.5853609

>>5853575
A lot of people were put off because they expected easy Episode 1 styled maps, not Romero's hard style seen in TFC and late Doom 2. There's a ton of similarities to E4M2/E4M6/Map26/Map29 throughout Sigil. It's good if you appreciate that style, I find it really neat that he managed to make a challenging Doom 1 episode after a 20-year mapping coma with only two warmups beforehand. It's also maybe the only wad I've ever played where I actually turned autorun off and only ran when necessary.

>> No.5853616

>>5853575
pretty good use of the limited doom 1 bestiary, cool aesthetic, and wise enough to make every cyberdemon either telefraggable or BFG-able
on the other hand, E5M8 was underwhelming, E5M9 sticks out like a sore thumb, there's too many hurtfloors for my taste (namely E5M4's mandatory hurtfloor run and E5M7's 20% hurtfloor to get back to the start)
overall good, but not flawless by any means

>> No.5853631

>>5853596
i tyhought /vr/doom/ denounced Gman as a whiny sellout cancer with shit opinions that can't handle hitscanners in any form though

>> No.5853637

>>5853631
why are you intentionally replying to someone frogposting, you absolute retard.

can you seriously not discern his intent.

>> No.5853639

John Romero beat me at Deathmatch.

We were play Doom 2 map 3 and I didn't know there was a teleporter to get across the map. So I kept trying to go up the lift door and he stood with a BFG killing me over and over lol

>> No.5853640

>>5852709
lilith
resolution settings
platform breaking exploit until it was discovered

>> No.5853643
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>>5852954
Neat.
Made a little webm in Crispy to show it off on MAP07 of Doom 2, if anyone wants to see:

https://a.uguu.se/3EwL82TAjUz7_d4v.webm

(Yeah, they had to change Dead Simple to something else, something about the Mancubi varieties causing problems, I don't remember)

>> No.5853647
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>>5852732
>All new 3D texture mapping
Now what could that mean

>> No.5853652

>>5852732
What are the rules of the project? What mapping format should we be using?

>> No.5853653

>>5853643
Also, can anyone recommend any other temporary hosting sites for webms and whatnot? Uguu has moments where it's really slow to load, apparently.

>> No.5853658

>>5853653
streamable's alright, my only complaint with it would be how it compresses audio

>> No.5853660

>>5852834
Some people to this day still argue about whether or not Doom is 3D, was made with mouse play in mind or who the other marine in the box cover art it.
There's Doom's popularity, then there's how people see it: rumors, mandella effect, lack of research etc.
Some people think it was 2016 that came up with "rip and tear".
Pop culture is more about how we view media, not what the media is on its own.

>> No.5853661

>>5852954
this is military-grade autism

>> No.5853662
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5853662

Something about Doom Eternal just seems lame as fuck, but I don't what it is.

>> No.5853663

>>5852238
trying to do a little weapon mod which uses weapons from Death Mask, an old Amiga game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9WSUwIyfek

>> No.5853664

>>5853662
It's the engine that looks like shit, the not demons, now with "angels".
It's warcrafting haloing itself up until death. Weren't the new Wolfenstein games proof enough?

>> No.5853665

>>5853664
>It's warcrafting haloing itself up
Fuck, I think that is exactly what it is.

>> No.5853668

>>5853662
The art direction (and not just the hud)
When you launch Doom, Doom 2, Doom 3 or 16, it's not fucking full of bright green neon colors, even modders barely do this, yet here we are nuID making Fortnite Doom. Even the blood now doesn't looks real.

>> No.5853669

>>5853665
West is done. Problem is even stuff like Ion Fury that should be the outlet for outrageous stuff to compensate, comes as boring.

All the wrong people are directing games. I dont really expect Wrath to be anything special either. But I am glad it exists.

>> No.5853671

>>5853665
I mean look at that fucking sword.

>> No.5853673

>>5853483
his twitter
but who fucking cares, he only did some gore so his opinion is nearly as worthless as anyone else's

>> No.5853676

>>5853669
>West is done
??

>> No.5853684

>>5853673
This

>> No.5853685

>>5853134
That would have to be GZDoom based and with a lot of weird shit to justify the differences between old Doom and new one.
Like, replacing the upgrade argent spheres segments with three switches where you choose either a megaarmor, soulsphere or backpack.
Like, almost faithfull maps tailored for classic's gameplay and maybe some texture changes in case it's too repetitive, specially Hell levels.

>> No.5853686

>>5853589
looks fun but it seems like a linear speedrunning kinda thing

>> No.5853691

>>5853214
Doesn't help that a lot of modern Doom designs are overdetailed as fuck.

>> No.5853693
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>>5853671
There's a sword?

>> No.5853698

are most of the doom servers dead

>> No.5853701
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>>5853693
Straight out of darksiders. Actually I love darksiders, I can forgive joe mad style because the games are genuinely good.

It kinda gave me a bit of an idea of how an Hexen game made today would look. I am glad nobody does it.

>> No.5853703

>>5853647
Heretic is already a 3D texture-mapped game, so that just sounds like a fancy way of saying "theres new textures"

>> No.5853708

>>5853596
>>5853631
I dont consider gman our guy, I consider icaruslives our guy

>> No.5853709

>>5853701
God, I fucking hate it. I play stuff like Doom specifically to get away from this breed of gay elf fantasy. If they want to make a new Hexen then they should do so instead of infecting Doom with this shit.

>> No.5853713

>>5853701
Aren't Heretic/Hexen's rights tied up between a few different companies?

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>>5853589
>dude remember 90s FPS games? those were so sick haha
>our indie game is gonna bring you back to the past, with everything that made the classics great!
>except for level design, who needs that anyways haha
every time
well not every time but quite a few times

>> No.5853720

>>5852239
Colourful Hell Update:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&p=1117225#p1117225

>> No.5853724

what the fuck is all this whining about inane shit?
and why are mods in fucking cyrosleep?

>> No.5853725

Isn't there any way to access levels 33 and above in chillax without a command line parameter or a cheat code? Or is it just the gameplay mods altering the wad's level order?

>> No.5853731

>>5853316
Amid Evil looks stupid
>Dusk > IonFury
Kys

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>>5853701
Oh, speaking of which; a while ago I found some concept art for a Hexen remake by one of the Runescape guys .

>> No.5853734

>>5853724
Shut the FUCK UP gay nigger.

>> No.5853735

>>5853643
>rocket launcher keeps the vanilla rl speed
this is something i wish the likes d4t did

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>>5853731
Dusk is fuglier in the current year than Quake ever was

>> No.5853737

>>5853724
What inane shit?
>>5853732
That looks alright, almost warhammery.
>>5853731
I dont like the way amid evil plays and looks as well. But it's probably a result of being well cheap.

>> No.5853738

>>5853643
>>5853653
>>5853658
Alright, this is the streamable link, in case the other one chugs.
https://streamable.com/nf618

>> No.5853741

>>5853709
how is a giant demonic sword a "gay elf fantasy"
you sound insecure

>> No.5853745

>>5853741
It just is.
>you sound insecure
Not as insecure as you. Fuck you and your gay elf sword.

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5853751

>>5853737
Yeah it's definitely got a WHFB flavor to it.

>> No.5853752

>>5853731
>>5853736
>>5853737

Dusk may look uglier, but it plays better than IF, and at least tries to do some interesting stuff, while IF does not even try.

AE beats both in visuals and gameplay, and I find simpler level layouts with more distinct aesthetics more appealing than the samey looking clusterfuck of IF.

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>>5853751

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>>5853753
I'd like to see 3D models out of these

>> No.5853764

>>5853741
he's saying he doesn't want high fantasy shit in doom, how did you not come to that conclusion? Are your comprehension skills that bad? Or do you just lack logical reasoning, either way you're fucking retarded

>> No.5853765

>>5853752
IFury looks incredible to me anon. It's really nice to explore. Work of art really.
Problem is Shelly fuck her.

>>5853732
>>5853751
>>5853753
Most of these in modern engines would not come out looking well delivered like Souls monsters but would all look cheap and plastic. I cant believe we all got out of the Gear unreal era with wet looking textures all around, to everything looking like pixar.

>> No.5853773

>>5853765
It all comes down to 1. your asset style 2. shaders and how you set them up. You can achieve any look in modern engines, but you need to put in that extra time and work.

>> No.5853774

>>5853668
ironic, because people complained that the previous game was too dull in terms of color
so they thought a solution was just the extreme opposite of a problem

>> No.5853778

>>5853575
Felt like a mix of his E4 and late Doom 2 stuff, with some toughness to it. Kinda like if he had made all of E4 himself.

>> No.5853779

>>5853774
Or: nobody can every do anything right in the eyes of you fgts

>> No.5853783

What's Ion Fury's most memorable part/level/zone?

>> No.5853784

>>5853765
>Problem is Shelly fuck her.
I would. Shelly is a waifu.

>> No.5853786

>>5853783
Is there even a cool train level in Ion Fury?

>> No.5853793

>>5853786
There is a train level. It's alright, not as great as Blood's. But at least it's not awful like Outlaws' train level.

>> No.5853795

>>5853765
IF looks incredible at first.
But as you progress you get the feeling of "more of the same shit", and it gets tiresome.
Yes, there are quite a lot of details, but soon you see same details in similar places in similar situations and it all blurs together.
I started playing IF at the time of it release an I only finished a few days ago because I just couldn't bring myself to play it for prolonged period of time. I sit down play through a level or two and then get to "oh god I can't take this shit any longer" and go play something else.
Strangely that didn't happen with Duke or Blood, which I replay regularily.

>>5853786
there is one, it's not very cool, unless you consider rapidfire heat-seeking micromisile drones (that can take 120+ hp down in one volley) busting down walls cool. Those guys are most unfun bitches in the game. At least their heatseaking is not as bad as one of Revenant or Vore, still makes dodging without cover much harder than it should be.

>> No.5853797

>>5853795
>Yes, there are quite a lot of details, but soon you see same details in similar places in similar situations and it all blurs together.

Yes I am getting this right now.
Duke mixed it more. Blood had some terrible parts but the best levels were amazing.
I never really play SW. I will once I get time.

>> No.5853801

>>5853774
The problem to me is it's just as brown as before, except now there's some glowing green and the design of everything (aside from the plasma gun) is, imo, worse and more fantasy-esque. Doom 2016 was good, but they didn't solve the issue of color from that game. I mean, Doom was never the most colorful game and definitely had some drab looking areas, but the reds/pinks/blues/yellows/silvers/etc really did pop a lot more for whatever reason imo than in 2016 or Eternal.

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>>5853801
>Doom was never the most colorful game
Doom is VERY colorful.

>> No.5853805

>>5853801

yeah what >>5853804 said

A game doesn't have to be Super Mario to be colorful

>> No.5853806

>>5853779
they brought back older pick ups because they said they were easier to read in more scenarios than 2016 items
then there was the glowing-items-with-text from e3 which were out of place, even by doom standards

>> No.5853808

>>5853639
what a cheap cheap cheap

>> No.5853809

>>5853808

Sigil is pretty good for a singleplayer campaign but the multiplayer has a few terrible maps.
Try out a mod called Golden Souls The More Definitive Edition, and if you're looking for more try the sequel andor even look into the third one that's coming out which is promising to bring more sandbox like levels to the forefront.
>www.mediafire.com/file/n0ndh842d761a3y/GoldenSouls_Full_1.4.pk3/file

>> No.5853813

>>5853804
It's very weird how people say games like Doom and Diablo 2 aren't colorful, when they're actually really fucking colorful.

>> No.5853816

>>5853801
it had an actual palette

>> No.5853818

>>5853813
their intended meaning is different than what you're interpreting

>> No.5853819

What are the rules for revenants to in-fight with each other?

It seems kind of inconsistent for me. They very rarely do.

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>>5853818

>> No.5853829

>>5853813
people interchange the terms "colorful" and "bright" without understanding the difference.

Both Doom and Diablo 1/2 are rather grim. Even the brihtest parts of them aren't as bright as other games get.

>> No.5853836

A difference between old and new Doom is that one has "levels" and the other has "locations"
Doom's levels are abstract and cannot really feel like actual places, but with a good use of assets and level making, you can make areas memorable and in the end, their assets like textures are meant to represent themes of settings
Then you look at 3 or 2016, you see like a mounting with a giant demonic skull or a room with objects and it looks more believable and advanced
But you never get the feeling that the setting has an interesting theme for mapping potential
In some way, these kind of games compare to Mario or Sonic in the sense that their universes or settings have selections of props and assets that define their worlds
Hell is probably a good example and why the original seems more interesting: id added a texture variety that gave a version of Hell with a lot to do
Compared to 2016's Hell being mostly a rock landscape
It's one of the things that worries me about a Doom heaven because it'll not be like something that would share parallels with the Doom Hell from the beginning

>> No.5853843

>>5853836
I dont know I think the level design in 2016 was really good. In fact it really surprised me.

What I didn't like were the forced arenas.

>> No.5853846

>grab vanilla essence pk3
>the graphics got better
So this is what they mean by "soul"

>> No.5853849

>>5853836

This is a great way to explain it

It's like the difference between Doom and Duke/Build, in Build games you're exploring real locations, buildings, video stores, theatres, jails

in Doom and Quake you have levels that are abstract representations of a setting, even in Quake II you still get this although to a lesser extent it's still heavily there, I think Doom 3 was the first id game to really drop this, RTCW probably had its influence on them, but in the Doom engine, all you can really do is stuff like that, I think the furthest you got along was Hexen, and that still had a decent amount of "oh this is just a space"

>> No.5853850

>>5853819
Punching.

>> No.5853852

>>5853843
>I think the level design in 2016 was really good
I mean it was, at least by modern standards. I think his point was down to how they look like actual places now rather than arcadey levels with modular assets.

>> No.5853854

>>5853829
there's the dark green of rogue encampment, the gritty deserts of lut golain, the murky swamps of kurast, the grim locales of the pandamoniom fortress, and cold plains of harrogath.
Diablo's thing was how devoid of bright and hopeful colors it was.
>>5853820

>> No.5853859

>>5853819
Projectile enemies of the same species can only infight if you somehow get one to hit the other with a melee attack (usually impossible due to how most projectile+melee enemies work, but the Revenant has a unique melee animation so it can be done) or if one of their projectiles sets off an explosive barrel near the other one. They can't take any damage from the projectiles directly.

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>>5853852
That is what I meant they merged both well.

Then again I was never fan of the early "its a space corridor " design. Maybe thats why I was always a more of a duke and Thief fan. Although Thief had also a perfect mix of possible and impossible.

You need a bit a both.

>> No.5853874

>>5853849
I thought Duke was more like the middle ground because you still got the same assets and props but still used in some good or bad ways
I think you could compare it to something like Lego's even, no matter how silly it sounds

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I was playing Duke 3D yesterday and thought of something; do people regard Duke as a fast game? Obviously you'll hear about Doom and Quake and even Wolf 3D being fast games, but AFAIK no one's said that Duke is a "fast" game. Sure you can run and gun and stuff but is Duke 3D remembered more for its personality than its gameplay or something?

>> No.5853887

>>5853884
I think it's pretty fast and intense.

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>>5853808
He wrecked me 10-2. And one of my kills was an accidental telefrag when I realised I could just teleport instead of getting fucked trying to get up the lift

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is this really what dukes foot looks like

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>>5853897
>3D assets pack

>> No.5853912

>>5853904
Honestly I don't really like it, I wanted to try it out though because I remember seeing it as a kid.

>> No.5853913

Hey guys, looks whos back: https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-ray-tracing

>> No.5853923
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>>5853913
>literally the very first screen is about trannies

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>>5853913

>> No.5853931

>>5853874

yeah but re-using textures isn't really the heart of it, it's how the levels are designed themselves, like the theatre in the first level, Duke has real bathrooms in almost every level, it's just real places

Quake could have a hundred assets and still have that feel

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>>5853913
>politics
>in a shitty graphics mod's page
>"videogames are political"

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>>5853913
I hope nvidia dmca this shit too so he finally reach the official tranny ending

>> No.5853950

>>5853846
I'm using it too but I dont see them any difference, what setting am I suppose to be using to make them crispy as fuck?

>> No.5853951
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5853951

Anyone play Dimension of the Boomer with Quake4Doom?

>> No.5853963

>>5853640
>resolution settings
What about them? I remember them being slightly convoluted. Is that it?

>> No.5853969

>>5853643
It comes with its own maps?

>> No.5853973

>>5852238
Was the Build Engine made primarily in C, Python, 1990s Microsoft BASIC, Cobalt, or something else?

>> No.5853978

>>5853913
>videogames are political
This is giving me a small aneurysm. Okay, you can make a game political if you want, but that would involve making the game's themes or plot about that thing you care so much about. Yet all these fags are doing is just virtue signaling in a place where that sort of thing doesn't even fit. Lazy as all hell

>> No.5853983

>>5853978
this
there's a difference between
>metal gear series, deus ex series, fallout new vegas etc
and
>adding something political related and forcing it in something unexpected
not the right place

>> No.5853987

>>5853852
>>5853843
I wasn't a fan of how linear most of 2016's levels were. I don't mind straightforward action levels, but not when they're 2/3rds of the game.

>> No.5853989

>>5853978
>>5853983
I hope you realize that mod and those screenshots are solely up for the purpose of getting a rise out of people.

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>>5853913
What are the implications of this? That the demons are the ones putting the posters up or everybody who did is now dead/a zombie?

>> No.5853996

>>5853950
If even dropping the res doesn't do anything you might be using the wrong compatibility setting.

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5853998

>>5853913
Fuck this tranny shit

>> No.5854000

>>5853395
NO, BUT SERIOUSLY >>5853379
Flash masks.

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>>5853884
After playing id games and modern boomercore (most of which have some Serious Sam influences) I was surprised how Duke and Ion Sneed rely a lot on dancing around covers and throwing explosives around corners thanks to hitscanners and other cuntish enemies.
When you aren't familiar with the games or just suck it plays almost like modern militaryshit nu-FPS, but when you're in the zone it feels like The Matrix lobby scene.

>> No.5854010

>>5853973
C with a dollop of ASM

>> No.5854013

>>5853996
what am I supposed to be using exactly?

>> No.5854015

>>5853989
The science is real really looks like poes law. But the ego on these people is so out of control I dont know.

>> No.5854020

>>5854015
The whole thing stinks, judging from the anon who posted this said "Guess who's back" I'm gonna hazard a guess and say it's that russian dipwad back with something for the sole purpose of causing mayhem.

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>>5853923
>>5853939
>>5853948
>>5853948
>>5853998

>> No.5854031

>>5853973
lol BASIC you goon

C with all time critical loop in ASM

>> No.5854032

>>5854026
>one of the textures is from a nazi owned castle, context wise
also, if the point of discord is for it to be secret club talk shit, why do we keep hearing about the dark secrets of the doom community?
is it that some people really can't keep their own secrets or are there really invaders ruining their privacy?

>> No.5854034

>>5854026
Slowly I began to hate them...

>> No.5854036

>>5854032
A little of both, some people can't keep their mouths shut and some people are there for the sole purpose of gathering up dirt for causing shitstorms at their own leisure.

>> No.5854037

>>5854032
Doom community discord servers devolve into cliquish circlejerks.

>> No.5854045

>>5854026
How dare he use Wolf3D like this.

>> No.5854046

If I built a graphics mod how hard would it be to find someone who wants to program alternate creature behaviors + map the a whole tc ? (Assuming non serious level of effort for everyone)

>> No.5854053

>>5854026
I dont get it.

>> No.5854058

>>5853631
No, that was /v/ that swine!
We'll get him one day!

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I see a lot of high quality mods pop up in these threads every now and then, a lot of mods that I would gladly pay for.
Why aren't doom modders taking inspiration from Ion Maiden and selling their games on steam as well?

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>>5854026
>trans
>mom
>trans
>cool

>> No.5854078

>>5854037
discord servers in general. It used to be skype servers that devolve into cliques. Things haven't really changed.

>> No.5854081

>>5854067
Which ones do you think would sell, out of curiosity?

>> No.5854083
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>>5854067
There are commercial Doom mods, most of them are shit or get pulled down for being illegal.

>> No.5854087

>>5854067
I can't because a lot of the assets I use are straight up stolen from other games.

>> No.5854091

>>5854067
>Why aren't doom modders taking inspiration from Ion Maiden
Somebody ought to tell Mike12 to take inspiration from Ion Maiden.

>> No.5854096

>>5854083
>Russians
What's their problem?

>> No.5854098

>>5854096
Apparently it's kind of a game to them, to see what absolute garbage they can get to pass.

>> No.5854102

>>5854013
There's menu options.

>> No.5854106

>>5854067
>Why aren't doom modders taking inspiration from Ion Maiden and selling their games on steam as well?
I think I'm gonna, but I gotta add and polish stuff first.
I also have no idea how to go about technically starting a small business, so that's a thing.

>> No.5854108

>>5854098
This, and most enjoy causing shitstorms. They're like Australians just poorer and more drunk.

>> No.5854137

Do you guys pistol start uv for your blind playthroughs of wads?

>> No.5854150

>>5854137
I play wads by opening up random maps and playing them, so I pistol start pretty much by default

>> No.5854164

>>5853913
why can't ppl keep their fetishes to themselves and others who like it

>> No.5854165

>>5854164
They forgot to judge people by character, so they apply that to themselves.

>> No.5854172

>>5853973

for reference, a game engine would never be built in BASIC or Python, they're high level and they're made for easy programming and not optimized performance, also nobody used Python back then, I'm not sure if it was even around? And BASIC was also already on its way out, that was primarily an 80s thing, by Cobalt I assume you mean COBOL, which is really only used for maintaining extremely old business applications that usually date back to the 50s/60s

Just a little crash course on languages and their common uses since you seem to be curious, almost every game engine will be low level, especially anything relating to 3D graphics because it's so resource intensive, usually assembly, C, and C++, they'll be scripted in high level languages such as lua or python, but be written in C/C++, in the early days, written purely in ASM/C

hope this helps

>> No.5854174

>>5854164
my fetish is girls wearing Doomguy helmets so it's always relevant

>> No.5854179

>>5853913
This tranny deletes my comments. Reported his ass for a fake mod with stolen content.

>> No.5854181

>>5854026
He's in the r/DOOM server, which I lurk around.
Cringe as fuck.

>> No.5854182

>>5853913
" repeat the hash value of the files from lightening wad and gzdoom are identical with the originals. The lighting effects were stolen from the banned mod "Doom Remake 4". It is NOT RTX!"

>> No.5854189

>>5853913
Report the mod lol.

>> No.5854205

>>5854189
Done

>> No.5854207

>>5854067
Some people started making commercial Gzdoom games though, Hedon is the most known example

>> No.5854212

>>5853913
This is such a heavy handed attempt at trolling. Hope you don't take this one seriously.

>> No.5854218

>>5853973
Duke Nukem is open source
https://github.com/videogamepreservation/dukenukem3d/tree/master/source
It's pretty much done in C, most things were done in C those days.
If you're thinking of making an engine, don't. Make shit in existing engines instead.

>> No.5854226

>>5853481
but, it's a problem?, it looks like some n64 tier parallax

>> No.5854235
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This is, objectively, the best episode of Duke.

>> No.5854243

>>5854067
Hedon is shit. Ashes was amazing but its too short.

>> No.5854252

>>5854235
Duke it out in DC

>> No.5854265

>>5854243
Hedon had potential but what good it had was mired in bad sprites and not all that great gameplay.

It's certainly not worth the money.

>> No.5854270

>>5854235
Lunar apocalypse. I find the textures and the lighting in opengl comfy.

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>>5854265
I wonder if we will have more games like Ion Fury and doom mods in the future being taken seriously. I do wonder what the profit margin on a wrath game will be. Wonder really if Ion Fury is selling.
I like them. I would actually pay good money for Thief campaigns, new experiments like Strife rpg games in doom.
I feel hopeful of the future and retro\modern games. Especially today since I just got the news new relic, guys that did deserters of kharak are making Homeworld 3.

Anyway bedtime, too much work tomorrow.

>> No.5854283

>>5854282
I would be weary buying any sort of TC if it doesn't add an assload of stuff like Ion Fury did.

>> No.5854285

>>5854243
Ashes wasn't *that* short, got a good several hours out of it at least. If he were to make a three episode game each with the quality and length of the original episode, I'd gladly pay $20 for that, maybe more.

>> No.5854324
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>mfw loaded Dark Forces for the first time in a while today

>> No.5854326

Does anyone have a link to the wad that's doom 2 but it's a single level?

>> No.5854332

>>5854235
Life's A Beach

>> No.5854349

>>5854326
http://doomshack.org/uploads/memorial.wad

>> No.5854398

>>5853652
We're currently working on all of that. It seems we're leaning toward UDMF with a flexible two month build time.

>> No.5854402

How would I go about playing games of Quake 3 with my boys in this day and age?

>> No.5854404

>>5853913
>want to play raytraced doom
>just boot up doom2.exe

>> No.5854406
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5854406

>playing Shadow Warrior Classic Redux
>something feels wrong
I can't tell if it's movement or mouselook, but something is fucking weird and I can't tell what aAAAAA.
Also,
>compact hud doesn't show armor
Fug.

>> No.5854413

>>5854067
because people generally don't want to pay for doom mods.
I can bet you actual money that 90% of people ITT haven't even bought doom.

>> No.5854414

>>5854106
You need to file some paperwork with your local government and the feds but it's really not much work. It's just declaring you have started a business so you can report earnings on your taxes

>> No.5854420

>>5853134
Theres gotta be a Serious Sam map pack

>> No.5854430
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>>5854406
Is there a way I can mod just the head weapon sprite in Shadow Warrior and nothing else? It's grossing me out desu I'm not really into gore in general, I just put up with it because these games are fun.

>> No.5854437

>>5852268
No one here gives a shit how edgy colonel mark was or if he killed a kid. Only reset era brings that shit up. People hate Brutal Doom here for its content and its playerbase

>> No.5854440

>>5852826
Yup. Same here.

PB 3.0 is looking good btw.

>> No.5854443

>>5853538
doom was for casuals, zoomer.

>> No.5854480

>>5854443
>6 rockets

>> No.5854523

>>5854480
someone should make a montage of bd glitches and fuck ups because just texts in posts isn't enough to describe the mess

>> No.5854529
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>mfw two demons survived a direct hit from two different rockets in a single play session today

>> No.5854540
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5854540

Why didn't "gibbitude" ever catch on as an in-joke? It's probably the single funniest/stupidest word ever written into a game.

>> No.5854543
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>>5854529
>mancubus does 55 damage in one shot

>> No.5854549

>>5854529
The fuck must you have been doing.

>> No.5854557

>>5854543
> revenant does 80
no wait, thats normal. let me try that again

> zombiemen and shotgunners don't gib from berserk punches

>> No.5854580

>>5854549
shooting pinkies with a rocket launcher, what the fuck else do you think?

>> No.5854586
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>>5854557
>shotgunner survives berserk punch
>shoots back for 45 damage

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>>5854557
>punch pinkie while beserker
>doesnt die
>punch another pinkie while beserker
>dies

>> No.5854604

>>5854580
i think anon is talking more about karma
like "what did you do to deserve this kind of luck"

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5854608

>>5854603
>here's ur random numbers bro

>> No.5854614

>>5854557
>go down elevator
>chaingunners on both sides
>they roll straight 15s for damage
evil idea: have a medium size elevator, teleport a baron or two in to convince you to pull out the rocket launcher, then have the elevator drop you imto a chaingunner pit after a few seconds - that is, just long enough for you to hurt the baron and stop it from infighting

>> No.5854619

>>5854540
Because no one making "le rip and tear" jokes have actually played the original games.

>> No.5854624

>>5854529
interesting fact. I just checked that a pinky has 150hp, while a full blast of a ssg deals 100-300 damage. Basic math says that a pinky should survive a bit less than 25% of ssg blasts at point blank. But in my 20+ years of playing, I've never seen this happening before.

Now a rocket blast deals 148-288 (direct hit + blast radius). With the pinky's 150hp, that leaves him with a bit more than 1,4% chance of survival, which happened twice to me today

strange, isn't it?

>> No.5854635

>>5854624
>if you flip a coin....lands on its edge

>> No.5854636

>>5854614
correction: a longish, narrow elevator where your first thought is "if this baron gets over here, I'm dead"
this also means the chaingunners are closer to you and more likely to get in your face

>>5854624
>Basic math says that a pinky should survive a bit less than 25% of ssg blasts at point blank.
yeah that's not how binomial distributions work
https://anydice.com/program/176cf

>> No.5854640

>>5854624
also a pinky has a 1/8 chance of surviving a direct rocket
it's 128+(1d8*20) damage, and you pretty much never get the full 128 either

>> No.5854641

>>5854636
that is how it works on doom? Cool. Thank God I'm not a game developer, then. I would never think of that

>> No.5854667

The thread detailer just started a Q&A. https://twitter.com/BrutalDoomGuy/status/1168348535013748737?s=19

>> No.5854672

>>5854667
Why not use Curiouscat at that point?

>> No.5854705

>>5853969
No, just a MAP07 Dead Simple replacement, because the original is bugged with that mod. Something to do with the two Mancubi variants or something, I dunno.

>> No.5854713

What is the difference between Zandronum and Odamex for multiplayer Doom?

>> No.5854717
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>> No.5854736

I don't like the shrinkray and freezethrower in dook. They just feel gimmicky and both are functionally the same in that you need to walk over to the enemy afterwards to actually kill them. Also, laser mines just seem like a total waste of time and not even once I have felt the desire to use them. Devastator is sweet tho, pipe bombs are really good and intuitive to use, and the ripper is a cool gun for the role it's filling even if functionally it's not super unique.

>> No.5854740
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5854740

MOTHERFUCKER WHO PUT THE HUH TO FUNC

Well ok, it's no biggie I was just being cautious just in case somebody spotted something that could be in need of fixing, plus I was thinking of a different location for the secret level portal but I guess that's going on the quaddicted release...please don't beat me to it, you can't update maps once you upload them there, so you have to be extra sure or you'll have to upload it twice.

>> No.5854758

>>5854736
Laser tripbombs are obviously a multiplayer-oriented item that got shoehorned into SP. The shrinker is great because it lets you one-hit kill most enemies, including the minibosses.

>> No.5854778

>>5854736
The shrinker is what keeps the fatsos and chaingunners from being any more irritating than they already are. The freezethrower is really lame, though.

>> No.5854808
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5854808

Here's your build car

>> No.5854818

>>5854808
I never understood why those two guns set people on fire. It feels like they had a flamethrower at some point but scrapped it, but wanted to keep the effects.

>> No.5854824

>>5854818
Shut up dude, it's cool. The shotgun just using the grenade launcher model though, that is legit lame.

>> No.5854825

>>5854824
First change I would make to Ion Fury is that the shotgun can fire it's grenades as an alternate attack without switching weapons, it was annoying how it broke up the flow of the game.

>> No.5854828

>>5854324
Playing DOS vanilla or using DarkXL?

>> No.5854831

>>5852954
This is very impressive, so much work

>> No.5854839

>>5854818
Because cyborgs. Burn the meaty bits off.
And no, those things didn't always have a fire effect.

>> No.5854841

>>5854586
>"No, John, I am the Doomguy"

>> No.5854846

>>5854736
Shrinker's basically your BFG, it effectively oneshots all the toughest enemies. You can also just shoot frozen enemies, you don't have to walk over and kick them. Even if they thaw out, they're still left with just 1 HP.

Try playing the game on pistol start and you'll likely have more of an appreciation for the arsenal. The tripmines have a massive radius compared to other explosives, so they're really helpful for softening up a crowd and conserving ammo. The freezethrower is also extremely useful on Damn I'm Good, since it lets you permanently kill enemies without having to use explosives. You can whittle them down with your otherwise useless hitscans, then land the killing blow with the freezethrower so they won't respawn.

>> No.5854849

>>5852826
I only liked the three new episodes included in BD19 (Hell on Mars, Battle of Los Angeles, and the other thing). Right now I am playing them but with no brutal doom and other custom monsters and weapons mod.

>> No.5854853

So the Japanese version of Doom 64 has green blood splats but corpses get the red stuff. That's silly.
Oh well. Get psyched!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2sjt3uS5is

>> No.5854865

>>5854758
>>5854778
>>5854846
I almost didn't list the shrinker because it is indeed pretty useful, especially for those fat flying guys. As far as I know though, it doesn't work on the smaller versions of the LA Meltdown boss. I also kind of see the similarity to the BFG, right down to wide, flat appearance of the gun and the slow green orb appearance of the shot. I still just don't find it fun though, idk.

>> No.5854867

I love mashup maps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZG4CX3okRQ

>> No.5854896

>>5854808
Hey i made that :P

>> No.5854910

>>5853698
Zandronum/Doomseeker still shows some people around, like in the hundreds, but way too scattered across many servers, so most servers have 0 users. Odamex is kind of undead tho, like 1 person connects every 24 hours.

>> No.5854914

>>5853708
This ^

>> No.5854915

>>5854896
Do the Yellow Hawk and then another one made just for Shelly. I challenge you!

>> No.5854918
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>>5854896
>throwback FPS devs browse /vr/

O N E O F U S

>> No.5854924

>>5854918
But it's a mod

>> No.5854927

>>5854924
He's still not wrong, just not applicable to this image.

>> No.5854935

I have a question.

Is it vanilla Doom behavior to not allow you to switch to your fist once you've gained a chainsaw, but have not gotten a Berserk?

Because my Crispy is doing that, and I genuinely don't remember if that was a thing.

>> No.5854956

>>5854108
>and most enjoy causing shitstorms
And yet somehow every shitstorm is filled with americucks. All the time.

>> No.5854974

>>5854285
Did you played that other episode another guy did for ashes 2063? I haven't yet, just downloaded it.

>> No.5854975

>>5854740
I kinda understand the guy who did it, for all we know the scheduled release date may have been past the heat death of the universe. And I guess the func people might be very well able to give constructive feedback, considering that they've been playing and mapping for Quake for years.

>> No.5854979

>>5854440
Sadly does not work in Zandronum like 2.03 did for multiplayer.

>> No.5855003

>>5854713
That Zandronum has users and odamex not.

Seriously, Zandronum is just skulltag with lots of gzdoom improvements from years ago, that makes it popular, has no zscript yet sadly..

>> No.5855034

>>5854096
>>5854083


that >>5854098 is true. Gamedev.ru community just tosses whatever garbage they can pass for a game onto steam.

There's also some streamers / tubers that do their own "games" to get a Gamedev cred in a "I'm kind of a game dev myself, my game even was released on Steam!" sense. It was all the rage in the last few years.
In the days of Greenlight they had their fans rally in support of their "game", but these days they dont have to do even that.

>> No.5855041

>>5853897
Those alien bastards stole Duke's ass

>> No.5855045
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>>5854713
Pretty much >>5855003. Odamex's engine is also very outdated.

>> No.5855051

>>5853913
The first joke ran its course and 99% of the normies didn't get it.
So now Vasyans trying to hump the absolute living shit out of it to get at least some sort of reaction
And they succeeding

>> No.5855065

>>5854713
Odamex is for traditional Doom deathmatch, while Zandronum is basically years-old ZDoom with proper netcode.

>> No.5855098
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>>5853913
Kek, those literal vasyans are now playing the gay card to avoid getting their crappy mod banned. How much do you guys think that file will stay up?

>> No.5855109

>>5853270
bless his soul

>> No.5855113

>>5855065
>>5855003
>>5855045
I mean...if I just want to play traditional Doom deathmatch, it would seem it's the better option compared to Zand, right?

Is Zand just filled with Complex Doom-fests everywhere or does it also do purely vanilla DM? What's easier to just set up and play with a group of friends?

>> No.5855118

>>5855113
Both should be easy to set up with Doomseeker, and some services have dedicated servers you can configure. Zandronum and ZDoom aren't vanilla in the truest sense, but I do believe some will still play game modes like DM, CTF, etc without any gameplay mods aside from maps.

>> No.5855119
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>>5855113
>Is Zand just filled with Complex Doom-fests everywhere or does it also do purely vanilla DM?
There are some zandronum "vanilla" servers, you can make your own vanilla server also and people will join you if you make it public. Or you can make a free zan vanilla server at allfearthesentinel.net, just follow the rules.

> What's easier to just set up and play with a group of friends?
Tell them to install doomseeker even if you guys still want to use odamex, it will make it way easier for you guys specially if you aren't used to setting up server-client stuff. You can also play Chocolate Doom multiplayer with Doomseeker, it's way more vanilla that both bare Zandronum and/or Odamex.

Hope you know about port forwarding also, if not, go read something about it.

>> No.5855127

>>5853913
>>muh diversity
>>in a fucking doom mod
Holy fuck Trump's election really made the left lose their collective minds.

>> No.5855139

>>5855127
Not defending the trannies, but that russian guy put all that trump vs gay shit in his mod to avoid getting a cease-and-desist again. It's the same guy that made the Doom 4 remake piece of shit, Vasyan777, but with new trolling tricks.

>> No.5855141

>>5854000
"FLASH" is a supplement state, usually rserved for weapons, invoked by firing functions, basically renders a second sprite on top of prior one at full brightness.
That's how Chaingun muzzleflash is done - it's actually 2 sprites, one of a chaingun, and another one of the flash. Same function makes player sprite to light up.
I presume they altered monsters so that every frame invokes "fire" function as if they are shooting, but without actual target or shooting, and added "flash" state with apropriate sprites.

Vanilla doesen't do this because it requires to render double sprites for every object, and on target PCs that would've tanked the framerate hard.

>> No.5855143
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>>5855139
All the rage in the comments is about how the mod says it's "RTX", despite having the same md5 hash than the common obviously non-RTX GZDoom (also the d4-remake stole assets). He (vasyan777/doom-rtx) answers in broken english by telling they are bigots and homophobes for bashing his mod, lmao clown world.

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>>5855143
Also all the normies complain that Doom RTX breaks their Brootal Dum. So it's 2 fronts for him now to fight at.

>> No.5855149

>>5852238
Is Brutal Doom just an outdated meme? I just want to have a gory DOOM/DOOM2 experience without looking like a faggot

>> No.5855154

>>5855139
>>5855143
The way he's taking advantage of identity politics shit being untouchable is actually mildly clever, and if he wasn't just a rat using it to deflect criticism of his shitty mod, it might have been a decent piece of performance art with social commentary on how defunct the political climate is nowadays.

>> No.5855156

>>5855149
Then try Project Brutality, you probably will like it way more. Nowadays you can chose 2 flavors: PB 2.03 for a more stable thing that also works in zandronum multiplayer, or the 3.0 beta branch that probably has or has not some bugs, depending on what version you get.

>> No.5855157

>>5855149
It's more old hat if anything at this point. There are other gore addons around these days you can use with other gameplay mods.

>> No.5855159

>>5855156
I'll go with PB 2.03 then. Thanks Anon. I'm a bit of an oldfag when I say I love ZDoom and have been using it more than GZDoom. But with Zandronum, is Zandronum any good in general for a source engine like ZDoom of 'yore? GZDoom I like as is, but I wish I could have multiplayer with GZDoom.

Thank fuck it isn't the retarded Doomsday Engine, that piece of shit nearly broke my laptop's brightness settings lmao

>> No.5855161

>>5854865
> As far as I know though, it doesn't work on the smaller versions of the LA Meltdown boss
It does but you have to shoot at its feet in the middle of a sprite due to how Duke's hitboxes work. It may take a couple of shots instead of 1.

>>5854935
Yes, it is a thing, unless you get a Berserker - that allows you to switch between the two. In vanills, chainsaw completely supersedes the fists, as it does same damage much faster.

>> No.5855162
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>>5855154
Lel yes, but even some slav guys are telling him about his spergness, he tried to hide stuff that only people that can read russian would understand, maybe trying to make them side with him, so far he's an utter failure again, so much effort for this kind of shit, truly vasyan-tier, the STALKER mod commnunity gets lots of those slav sperg kids stealing assets and putting more effort in trollish tricks to promote their meme mods, so it's very common over there.
PIC RELATED

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>>5852238

Only a few more books to arrive. I ordered The Lost Episode of Doom book to so that'll be fun to read. DCK came with the CD which is pretty mean.

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>>5855159
>I'll go with PB 2.03 then. Thanks Anon.
Godspeed fren, no problemo.

>I'm a bit of an oldfag when I say I love ZDoom and have been using it more than GZDoom. But with Zandronum, is Zandronum any good in general for a source engine like ZDoom of 'yore?
Zandronum is the best option for internet multiplayer so far, it has some bells and whistles from GZDoom but no the zscript thing, so it does not runs the latest mods from nowadays. Also it gives you way more frames per second from having a fitter engine overall. my old craptop gets 60fps and my desktop gets like 600 fps. If you want to try doom with internet multiplayer, Doomseeker is a must, so easy to use and setup, goes along pretty well with Zandronum also.

>GZDoom I like as is, but I wish I could have multiplayer with GZDoom.
Yes, well, Graf, the GZDoom developer has said he will not develop net-code for it. Some anons told that GZDoom is okeyish with LAN tho, I don't know and I don't want to try it anyway, lel.

>Thank fuck it isn't the retarded Doomsday Engine, that piece of shit nearly broke my laptop's brightness settings lmao
LOL doomsday was a crappy engine, but had great ideas like making the texture folder thing for doom not being so autist, that idea was so good that nowadays GZDoom and Zandronum can use doomsday/jdoom texture packs even better than doomsday.

>> No.5855178

>>5855154
>>5855147
>>5855143
>>5855139
>>5855127
It's just a bunch of 2ch.hk and gamedev.ru trolls having a good old trolling session

>> No.5855180

>>5855171
You're doing great, man.

>> No.5855187

>>5855178
lmao, so much effort making a legit playable mod.
Somebody tell those you only need to do terrywads and that's good enough. Also, in STALKER the 2ch-hk/gamedev ru trolls make great meme/trolling mods that aren't like this shit.

>> No.5855191

>>5855187
>lmao, so much effort making a legit playable mod
they literally just cobbled together a compilation of existing models and HD textures in one evening and decided to see how far they can push it.
Apparently very far, since normies would eat up any shit if it looks shiny.
Also there was no official DMCA or anything like that, at least I've never seen any word on it coming from ZeniMax/Beth/id. So my best guess is that they did it to themselves to get some publicity.

>> No.5855195

>>5855143
I have to give him credit this is kinda clever.

>> No.5855218

>>5855191
The russian filename messages kind of show that a sperg kid had lots of angry issues against western capitalism.

>> No.5855220

>>5855218
Considering that this capitalism plunged the country into analogue of great depression I guess his reasons are somewhat justified

>> No.5855225

>>5855220
So it's living free rent in his mind.
Got it.

>> No.5855227

>>5855225
i dont even understand what you meant by this
but ok

>> No.5855228

>>5855225
*rent-free

>> No.5855239

>>5853596
He actually denounced this website by name in a recent video.
>>5853631
>>5853708
This is correct

>> No.5855242

>>5855220
I think more communist citizens died of hunger back then when Stalin's failed 5 year plans were being operative. Or the great chinse famine of 1959-1961. If western capitalism were to be blamed for those also, welp, whataboutism is a thing communist rethoricist mastered.

The 2008-2009 global wall street triggered depression was nothing compared to those in terms of caloric consumption per-capita.
Not defending wall-street, just saying that blaming americans is always a easier scapegoat tactic to avoid getting criticism for being a kleptocracy/plutocracy.

>> No.5855246

>>5855218
He's just stringed a bunch of angry meme words into a shitpost. Do not look for deeper meaning, there's none.

>> No.5855248

>>5855242
I was talking more about mid-late 90's when the western companies were buying out most factories and siphoning money out of the country.

>>5855246
this
It's just designed to trigger people in as much ways as possible, and it's rather successful

>> No.5855249

>>5853913
I don't know. Looks good to me. I don't agree with trannies though.

>> No.5855252

>>5852954
Now i want to see someone playing it on machine from 1993.

>> No.5855253

>>5855246
According to this anon: >>5855220
His bunch of angry meme words are somewhat justified because russia plunged into an analogue of the great depression because of western capitalism.
Are you russian?

>> No.5855258

>>5855248
>I was talking more about mid-late 90's when the western companies were buying out most factories and siphoning money out of the country.
Those are your own russkie plutocrats, nothing to do with western capitalism.

>> No.5855259

>>5855253
they are not mutually exclusive anon
he may have reasons to hate the west
but he expresses that hate as trolling
and for that purpose
>He's just stringed a bunch of angry meme words into a shitpost

>> No.5855261

>>5855259
So you saw deeper meaning, after saying there was none.

>> No.5855265

>>5855253
Ye. And yet, КУДA ЛEЗEШЬ ПИДAPAC CУКA БЛЯДЬ is, indeed, a meme, and so is communism.
And, well, blaming such a serious economic shift on one specific factor is a bit naive.

>> No.5855269

>>5855261
there may be a meaning in shitposting
but the post itself may be without meaning

>> No.5855270

>>5855269
Now you're postshitting

>> No.5855275

>>5855269
May I ask what's your concept of "meaning"?
If you said there was meaning in that shitpost, how could you say it was without meaning in the next post? So something with a meaning has no meaning?
Marshall McLuhan used to say that the medium was the message.

>> No.5855279

Has anyone ever managed to make an actual rope swinging work in GZDoom?
Only things I can find are just pulling player to a point, without allowing him to swing from it or extend/retract.

Also where is the DoomShock guy? He hasn't posted in a while and I vaguely remember him saying that he might have an idea about how to do this.

>> No.5855281

>>5855279
Temporary air control. That'd do it.

>> No.5855284

>>5855279
Theres that jp_grapple.pk3 mod that gives you a grapple hook. It's like those old sprite simulations of ropey stuff with sprites along a path tho, you know, like Simon Belmont's whip in Castlevanias.

>> No.5855286

>>5855281
that would be just free air movement, but how to restrict it to an arc by the rpe radius, and make player properly accelerate/decelerate as he swings?

>>5855284
where can I get it?

>> No.5855289

>>5855286
Math. Ask a scripting wizard.

>> No.5855291
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>>5855284
>jp_grapple.pk3

>> No.5855292

>>5855286
>where can I get it?
Here's it man: You can swing if you shoot a second grapple hook when the first puts you in the air, it's kind of kludgey but with enough practice it works kind of like spiderman's web shooter.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=48546

>> No.5855295

>>5855291
You need to install jp-main.pk3 before in the load order, it's on the instructions, always read the F manual, man.
It worked in my gzdoom legacy.

>> No.5855301

>>5855292
>>5855295
I tried to drop both files on the exe, that usually works. I actually figured out it was load order and used bat file.

The mod does not do the swinging, it just pulls you to the point and then releases 2/3. That method was known for quite a while.

I'm asking about actual swinging. I remember people talking about it and attempting it, but never seen it actually done.

>> No.5855304

>>5855301
Told you, the swinging happens if you shoot a 2nd and/or 3rd grapple hook before the first finishes, and with some practice.

>> No.5855305

>>5855304
It's not actual swinging though.

>> No.5855306

>>5855305
Well, my bad.

>> No.5855319
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5855319

How was your weekend?

>> No.5855321

>>5855319
Editing textures and flats.
Good food tho.

>> No.5855368

>>5855045
crank the gamma up on z-daemon and its fine

>> No.5855381

>>5854540
I'm saving it for the right moment.

>> No.5855382

>>5854736
The Shrinker rules though.

>> No.5855383

>>5854540
can someone zoom in on daisy's head

>> No.5855386

>>5854736
>and both are functionally the same in that you need to walk over to the enemy afterwards to actually kill them


huh... you know you can shatter enemies in other ways right? Like, freeze a group, then throw some explosives
Freeze some enemy in the distance, quickly swap to pistol to shatter it then swap back

The freezer has a quite high dmg output so it's worth using that way; not to mention you can abuse the projectile bouncing off walls to hit hitscanners from behind a corner

Also; both weapons are incredibly fun in MP. Shattered oppponents in MP leave an atomic health; also obviously the kill only counts once the opponent is shattered. I can let you imagine the kind of sick situations that may lead to.

>> No.5855395

>>5852954
How many Doom 4 mods do we have now?
>D4V
>D4D
>D4T
>Slayers Testament (Quake)

>> No.5855396

>>5855319
Writing a ML dissertation so no time for vidya. Wanna play D4V, finish Ion Fury and finish my D2 run soon tho

>> No.5855403

>>5854736
Something like laser mines are good when you can open up a map and see a line as a different shade so that you can place them in front of that wall so once the trap opens up, BOOM. Dead bad guys everywhere!

>> No.5855404

>>5855395
QCDE has a Doom 4 enemy theme if that counts.

>> No.5855440
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5855440

I think we need a new doom thread, we're nearing the limit.

>> No.5855446

>>5855440
Limit means nothing.
We aren't on page 8 yet.

>> No.5855450

>>5853270
I hope he dies from nutsack cancer

>>5853913
Can't tell if this Slav is legit retarded or a genius

>> No.5855465

I updated my myfirstmap.wad that I posted here yesterday, implementing the suggested changes. The layout is slightly different now, monsters are more abundant, some rooms retextured and one of the secrets was moved.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/com4u7fz6acbu6i/DOCKBAY.wad/file

>> No.5855473
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>>5853913
aaaand it's gone.

>> No.5855483
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5855483

>>5855465
The big blue door in the main room doesn't open, and this door to the right doesn't open from the outside so you can softlock on this lift.
It seems much better this time around from the small amount I've seen.

>> No.5855490

>>5855483
Strange, it works fine for me. Could it be a sourceport issue? I'm using GZDoom 3.2.5.

>> No.5855492

>>5854975
yeah can't blame him either but I figured a couple of days wouldn't make much difference all things considered, guess I was just being overly cautious

>> No.5855493

>>5855473
Not on my pc. What was the big deal about it?

>> No.5855495

>>5855490
I was using ZDoom because it crashes Boom. Seems to work in GZDoom.

>> No.5855503

>>5855495
Probably because you're using UMDF. You're not using any ZDoom features, so you might as well make it Boom format, or even vanilla Doom.

>> No.5855508

>>5855503
I am indeed using UDMF. I thought that avoiding ZDoom features will make it retain compatibility. I was using UDMF just because the tutorials I've been reading used that format. Might rework the map to be compatible with Boom, now that I know that it isn't actually compatible.

>> No.5855512

>>5855493
It's a fake mod u tranny supporter

>> No.5855518

>>5855473
And now he's moving on to Nexusmods...only to get his shit pushed in again.

>> No.5855529

>>5853913
>/vr/ taking the bait as always

>> No.5855537

>>5855493
It's a mashup of model monsters and HD textures with autogenerated PBR for maximum "bling" that can pass for a "HD remake" to a person unfamiliar with Doom.

>>5855518
I guess people wisened up to his act

>> No.5855556

>>5853715
Yeah, just watched a gameplay video. Looks like a bunch of dull corridors.

>> No.5855558
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5855558

next thread image

>> No.5855565

>>5855558
Shaitanic Imageree

>> No.5855594

>>5855565
shaikoten imaginary

>> No.5855629
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5855629

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeIANOyximo

I think it looks pretty amazing.

>> No.5855634

>>5855558
Next thread image should be Heretic related because of the new /vr/ project.

>> No.5855664

>>5855629
>Oxygen 100%
DAMN! That's gonna do her in way before the action starts.

>> No.5855680

Never played Marathon. Is it like Doom or Quake where there are action levels to beat? Or is it like Deus Ex or System Shock where it's just a giant rat maze with objectives?

>> No.5855712

>>5855383
I can.

>>5855450
>retarded or a genius
That's being a savant, anon.

>> No.5855713

>>5854824
someone needs to make a shotgun mod ASAP

>> No.5855714

>>5855512
lol. Would you kindly point me to the original mod then?

>> No.5855719

>>5855629
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bbIBs0P2t0

>> No.5855728

>>5855529
Not me, talk for yourself and your projecting. What /vr/ did was spotting the obvious troll, those hating the trannie ogays were obvious false flag troll tourists. At most, /vr/ laughed at them and contributed to reporting it so the idiot slav baby trolls took their misguided effort and time-waste to nexusmod to fail further and quicker.

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5855749

>>5855714
>lol. Would you kindly point me to the original mod then?
You mean, a doom mod that makes it use RTX?
If you think that, maybe you should keep the tranny russian troll mod, that's the good one for you.

>> No.5855750

>>5855728
in this case, RTX stands for Russian Tranny X
it's a codename I'd guess

>> No.5855757

>>5855728
And the only people praising the trolls saying they were clever were russian guys too, they said they were russian, it's in the thread up there. To each their own I guess.

>> No.5855760

>>5855149
Try nashgore, droplets, ketchup and decide which looks best for you

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>>5855119
>filename

>> No.5855789

>>5853575
Some slaughtershit fanboys were butthurt by it.

>> No.5855810 [SPOILER] 
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lol

>> No.5855839

>nashgore
>occasional death sprites flip
This is such a good feature. Damn.

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5855871

>>5855810

>> No.5855890

>>5853589
I've played the demo on the dude's itch page. It was pretty fun, but the frames dip hard whenever anything even sorta crowded happens on screen. It's basically Doom 2016's arcade mode but they don't give you all the weapons.

It has a punch button, a dash button, a slide button, a scoring system, and some other unique things, but the level design is really bland so far.

The fun of the game right now is chaining headshots and pulling off the more advanced moves.

By far my favorite aspect is that the only way to get health is to coat yourself in blood. getting up close, blowing someone apart with the double barrel shotgun, and getting a bunch of health from it is actually really satisfying.

I want to see where the game goes but honestly it kinda gave me a headache and I could probably only play it for short bursts.

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5855891

>>5855810
We're gonna have to ask you to delete this image.

>> No.5855892

>>5855629
>webm
The sad part is they turned this up to 11 for Doom E

>> No.5855893

>>5854008
Exactly this right here. The build engine games are fairly slow if you're not dancing and crouching to avoid hitscanners.

>> No.5855903

>>5855395
admiteddly d4t is a modified d4d lite version for the sake of running on weaker devices, it's even done by the same guy.

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5855914

>>5852238

>> No.5855929

>>5854717
>people actually fell for this

>> No.5855953

>>5854867
>MetaDoom mapset
I wonder how other games besides the MSDOS classic counterpart could be represented.

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5855985

>>5855914
It took me a few seconds to work out that this was not a dwarf fortress screenshot.

>> No.5856003

>>5855914
I take it you're on linux if you're using slade 3 for mapping

>> No.5856035
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>> No.5856075

https://youtu.be/EU0Non3-eOA

>> No.5856109

>>5855395
MetaDoom, Argent and the addons for those you listed?

>> No.5856125

>>5854828

Neither really, I mean it's in DOS but it's not vanilla I have add on levels and weapons I made

>> No.5856131
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5856131

>>5855893
it's all in the playstyle, really

>> No.5856134

>>5856075
Doesn't fit that well sorry

>> No.5856139

>>5856131
>tfw played this stage yesterday
didn't look anywhere near as cool when I did it, but still fun.

>> No.5856153

>>5856035
Bloody-mugshot Shelly is hot.

>> No.5856154

>>5855891
Mmmmmmmmmmmmno.

>> No.5856160

>>5856131
Yeah, piece of cake.

>> No.5856183

>>5856109
>MetaDoom,
That's kinda reaching. It's like saying that AEOD is a duke nukem mod.

>> No.5856201

>>5856183
Well there was that one that either used 3d models or rather sprites that were screenshots but animated smoothly.
Forgot what it was called.

>> No.5856206

>>5856201
>>5856183
Zion it was called.

>> No.5856212

>>5855440
i do agree this thread went a bit faster

>> No.5856275

What happened to that Samsara addon?

>> No.5856330

>>5855892
That post is mockery my dude

>> No.5856363

>>5855893
Wrong

>> No.5856364

>>5856153
Shelly is always hot, silly.

>> No.5856365

>>5856330
No shit, but the webm is still funny because it's true

>> No.5856368

>>5856330
whoa, I thought that was really doom 2016 until you told me :)))

>> No.5856383

>>5855629
You know, that webm works on multiple levels because Doom 4's reveal had that piss filter over everything.

>> No.5856419
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What was Doomguy's job in the space Marines? Was he an IT nerd?

>> No.5856424

>>5856419
Just a grunt who liked to watch movies

>> No.5856457

>>5856368
A reality check never hurt anyone

>> No.5856483
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5856483

>playing dook
>level completion time is like 10 times as long as 3d realms time every stage
>except for the final stage where they somehow managed to take over a minute
but weird but okay.

>> No.5856492
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5856492

What is the difference? Which one should I download?

>> No.5856496

>>5856483
The PAR time is usually a time it takes to ge from start to finish, without killing monsters, rounded up.

>> No.5856509

>>5856492
Classic Redux is an actual source port (and more or less the best one available). Classic Complete is just the original game bundled with DOSBox.

>> No.5856516

D4V is pretty fun.

Funny how when you grab Doom 4's style and put it in the vanilla Doom gameplay, it actually becomes better.

>> No.5856518

>>5856516
(Better than Doom 4, I mean)

>> No.5856519

>>5856516
i like how some enemies still retain moves from the classic even with new attacks added on

>> No.5856524

>>5856518
A lot of things from 2016 worked, that's what makes it fun. D4V is only slightly different from 1993 and it's fun also.

>> No.5856532

>>5856524
I found it very hard to stomach the feeling that you're constantly being locked inside designated fighting arenas with constantly respawning enemies since it's 3D and the engine can't handle too many demons on screen at once

I played through Doom 4 once and enjoyed it, but I don't really see myself ever going back to it

>> No.5856547

>>5852478
It’s like a acid flashback so I guess if you’re into that

>> No.5856554
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>>5852573

>> No.5856561

Not sure if it's been posted yet, but Zero Master made a twitch channel that plays random speed demos from the archive 24/7.

https://www.twitch.tv/doomspeeddemos

>> No.5856564

>>5852954
That music was tight

>> No.5856565

>>5856561
Neat. Is this going to be a 24/7 thing?

>> No.5856570

>>5856561
Pretty cool.
>>5852239

>> No.5856573

>>5852481
Anon, please. I love this shit. Good job.

>> No.5856575

>>5856565
dude.

>> No.5856581

>>5856575
Sorry.

>> No.5856589

>>5856561
I kinda wish it also mentioned the year from which the demo is. But I guess that's not possible, since the Speed Archive doesn't have that info logged (right?)

>> No.5856595

>>5856561
> 40+ hour vods
what the christ

>> No.5856603

>>5856589
Zipped demo + text file with date.

>> No.5856623

>>5856424
You can't be just a grunt in the military though, you're required to do a job alongside being a combatant.

>> No.5856627

>>5856623
Your job is to go to Mars because some officer got butthurt. And facehurt.

>> No.5856634

>>5856627
Okay so there's no canon job then.

>> No.5856638

>>5856634
The backstory is purposefully vague.
Read Masters of Doom.

>> No.5856639

>>5856627
You assaulted the officer told you to shoot innocent citizens because we live in a s o c i e t y

>> No.5856664

how come some WADs dont have their map names in game, while others do

>> No.5856669

>>5852252
i think a problem both brutal doom and gzdoom have is people forgetting that they're unofficial products
it's cool to see how fans kept the series relevant with mods and how really good some of that stuff is, but even then, it's someone's project from a hobby
even with those articles jerking off fanmade sonic games "that understand sonic better than sega" aren't on the same level as the reputation of bd and gzd
it's probably why there's a lot of drama around these specifically, specially when there's actual flaws of the projects that are discussed less than pointless drama
it also happens that doom's pop culture status is practically based off fanstuff like the repercussions of evil story and a lot of other memes
sometimes even more than stuff about the games themselves
doom might as well be in some unique position when it comes to this

>> No.5856673

What is your favorite map from Plutonia, guys?

As in, the one you thought had the most fun gameplay. Not necessarily the hardest or the prettiest, just the one that you enjoyed playing the most.

>> No.5856676

>>5856125
That's cool man

>> No.5856679

>>5856639
what the fuck are you even trying to say

>> No.5856680

>>5856679
Insert a "who" before "told you".

>> No.5856681

>>5856125
Btw what do you use to edit Dark Forces?

>> No.5856683
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5856683

Anyone got the TNT verison of this?

>> No.5856691

>>5854867
This is awesome, must be added to the op when it's ready

>> No.5856710

>tfw the doom universe in eternal might be big enough of a blunder to fuck up doom's core identity but most people wouldn't care because "story doesn't matter anyway" or some people would find it deep enough to make clickbait videos while few people are left in the corner saying "what the fuck were they thinking?"

>> No.5856719

>>5856710
Dude who fucking cares, seriously. Let people do whatever they want. The release of a new game is not going to retroactively ruin your enjoyment of the old games, unless you let it for some very silly reason.

>> No.5856721

>>5856664
Software changes/improvements over the years

>> No.5856731

New thread
>>5856727
>>5856727
>>5856727

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>>5856731

>> No.5857223

>>5856664
Many vanilla (as in doom2.exe) map-only wads from the 90's and 00's didnt bother using dehacked to change the automap names, as it would've been too much hassle for a purely cosmetic change. Back in those days, you had to manually dehack your doom2.exe through an executable to get the changes, and then manually undehack it when you were done.
It's more common for vanilla wads to change automap names nowadays, as Chocolate Doom allows dehacked patches to be applied easily through the command-line, and more advanced source ports treat dehacked patches as a lump that can be read internally from the wad itself.

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