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i am new to /vr/ too and I got my ass chewed out for using an hdtv.

what setup am I supposed to use? what video signal?

>> No.5821795

>>5821789
CRT display with RGB input of some sort
RGB video

But in all honesty, just do whatever works for you.

>> No.5821829

Don't listen to the /vr/ spergs they are mentally ill, preserve what's left of your eye sight.

>> No.5821849

Use a 4k monitor connected via Display Port.

>> No.5821860

>>5821789
As long as you have a decent CRT and real hardware you're going to have a much better experience than most. If you like beautiful crispness and clear vibrant colours go for RGB. If you like your games filthy, blended and atmospheric, go for RF. Both are cool.

>> No.5821874

>>5821860
yea I am using original hardware, i dont use emulators. I am a repair tech, so I have many original consoles that I repaired and then modded ( 2600, snes mini, gen 1 and 2, tg16, n64 ..)

I want to use Svid for the most part because it is super crisp and looks great on the CRT and I got many svid modded consoles (atari, snes mini, gen 1 and 2) and the ps1 naturally outputs it
and the n64 iirc

>> No.5821881

>>5821874
S-video's nice. It can get pretty close to RGB.

>> No.5821885

>>5821881
I do use rgb but on the hdtv, and im in the US so coming across rgb CRT is pretty rare ( ive never seen one ever not include arcade CRT's..)

>> No.5822102

>>5821789
Just play the games. Don’t worry about the display.

>> No.5822117

>>5822102
But feeding a 240p signal directly into a hdtv is objectively shit tho, whatever signal he's gonna use (s-vid is fine) he's way better off with a crt or using an upscaler like the ossc.

>> No.5822179

>>5822117
Thwere isn't any input lag with the ossc

>> No.5822223

>>5821789
Use RF and an ancient 13" CRT., the kind that only has RF input.

>> No.5822232

>Ideally:
A BVM or PVM with RGB inputs and RGB video for your retro consoles.

>A balance between quality and practicality:
Component video on a consumer-grade flat panel CRT with Component inputs
Even S-Video shines really well on a CRT

The NES unironically has better colours in Composite than in Component or RGB, though.

>> No.5822252

>>5822232
Oh hey, i didn't want to make a thread just for this, maybe you know
I want to connect my SNES and PSone to a CRT via S-Video but i can't find any cables s-video cables, is there a workaround of some kind or am i going to have to import?

>> No.5822278 [DELETED] 

>>5821789
Is whatever display you want but pairing vintage console with modern displays is somewhat incompatible. If you MUST do it you need an upscaler of some kind depending on what output format you use on your consoles. RGB is the ideal but many consoles don't output it without serious modification - a notable example being the NES

>>5821874
You're that guy who didn't recognize the factory mods on a Genesis motherboard aren't you? I'm not surprised you've been using real hardware connected directly to progressive even displays without noticing anything wrong.

>> No.5822282

>>5822252
Does your CRT have Component?
If so, I recommend the HD Retrovision cables instead.
They are RGB cables with built-in Component transcoders so it's easier to plug your consoles on CRTs with Component or HDTVs.
They have a SNES cable, a Sega Genesis cable, a PS2 cable and a Wii cable, and they're making a Dreamcast cable.
For the PS1, however, you must get a Sega Genesis cable and a PS1 adapter because the PS2 cable only works with the PS2 and PS3 but supports higher resolutions like 480p and higher.
The Genesis cable with the PS1 adapter works with the PS1, PS2 and PS3, but it doesn't support 480p and higher.
You can get them here:
https://castlemaniagames.com/collections/hd-retrovision-1

Component is really great and even better than S-Video.

>> No.5822305

>>5822282
No, only S-video sadly, it's an old 90s toshiba

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5823382

>>5822252
you need to get the specific cables for these consoles because the signals are output with their proprietary connects so there ia no need for additional modding to the console

but you can do a mod and connect the svid signals to an svid jack you install

>> No.5824227

>>5822305
Unfortunately, good S-Video cables are ironically harder to find than good RGB cables.

>> No.5824228

easiest and cheapest solution (which works just fine BTW)

just emulate on your computer monitor in 4:3 or 8:7

there will be slight input lag but you probably wont even notice it anyway

>> No.5824234

>>5822232
>Component video on a consumer-grade flat panel CRT
Component's nice, but flat isn't.

>> No.5824237

>>5822232
>The NES unironically has better colours in Composite than in Component or RGB, though.
These "unironically" guys always seem to be unironically the dumbest guys.

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5824489

>>5822252
For the ps1 you can use official ps3 s-video cables - scph-10480. They seem to be reasonably priced surprisingly. You may still need to import, my cables came from uk.
Not sure about the snes though.

>> No.5824542

>>5821789
Just do it how you want to. All anybody does here is talk shit about how others prefer to play games. If you're using original hardware, connecting any analog signal to an hdtv is going to look like shit no matter what, but if you don't mind that, then it's fine.

That being said, I have a few CRTs I got for free, and I opt for S-video for my systems just because those cables are really cheap and the video quality is nice.

>> No.5824571

>>5821789
You need a PVMeme or a fraMEMEister. No other setup is hipster aproved

>> No.5824657

>>5821789
Common crt with composite for rounded edges and the experience everyone had whenwhen a kid.

S-videos for crisp graphics. It doesnt worth it tryin to find a rgb cable/setup.

>> No.5824681

>>5821789
Basically ANY CRT will clean up analogue video really well. Even composite looks good enough.
If you want to get into specifics, these guys have some pretty good info.
https://www.youtube.com/mylifeingaming
They're a little corny, but the info they give out is top notch.

>> No.5824724

>>5821789
Using a modern HDTV is fine provided it has decent latency, you turn off the processing and enable game mode. Just don't use composite, s-video at the very least but ideally RGB and invest in a decent upscaler. It comes down to personal preference but also don't stretch the image to 16:9 and don't use awful filters these trigger the PVM aficionados and typically look terrible anyway.

>> No.5825048

>>5822232
>Absolute Patrician
Composite hooked into a consumer-grade CRT as God and the developers intended.

>> No.5825082

Use your existing hardware. If anyone cares, that's their problem. Post about it shamelessly, too.

>> No.5825232

>>5824571
i got xrgb actually, i just need to get the adapter, i have been using that cheap chinese upscaler in the meantime

>> No.5826267

>>5821789
>what setup am I supposed to use?
A CRT but don't fall for the Sony/broadcast monitor ruse.
>what video signal?
The best you possibly can. RGB/Component>Svideo>Composite>RF

>> No.5826268

>>5821789
CRT with RF is just fine if you're truly old school.

>> No.5826304

>>5824489
I can vouch for these PS3 cables, they're great for my PS2.
As for the SNES, I just use 3rd party S-Video cables since the 1st party ones are fuck-tardedly priced for even used sets.

>> No.5826804

>>5821789
Play however the fuck you want. Like I care about some cunts opinion. Just tag an anon and tell them to fuck off it'll feel much better.

>>5826304
fuck off

>> No.5826805

>>5822252
https://www.ebay.com/itm/132861494962
did you even search?